Jehovah's Witnesses reminded to obey no matter what
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- Опубликовано: 15 ноя 2024
- (Rebuttals Sushi no. 273 - Reviewing the 2021 Annual Meeting - Part 4 of 4) Governing Body member Mark Sanderson can't resist concluding the 2021 Annual Meeting with a chilling reminder of just how much control is demanded of rank and file Jehovah's Witnesses.
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"Blind belief in authority is the greatest enemy of truth." - Albert Einstein
@@DanaApos
Arrogance and ignorance are closely related, the one seems to support the other 😂.
at this point, I'd rather listen to Fauci than a demented "brother". One elderly person in my Family is a JW. He tells me the "organization" is dwindling.
@@sailingmyfairlady5318 amazing u do not know that 😳🤔🤔🤔🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
"live saving direction we receive from Jehovah" - but they said they don't have any divine interaction with god? So crazy to watch this looking at it now.
Right?? I was brought up into it, I lived in a very closed circuit community was basically lacking any exposure. I had my doubts but I was scared shitless that if I even had any negative thoughts or doubts Jehovah will strike!!🤣 I'm almost 49 now, I look back and I can't help but think how dumb we all must have looked. My classmates in primary and secondary. Our neighbors, my teachers they all thought we were crazy, I now know why!😃😃😃 And to think that I carried that as badge of honour. We were praised in the congregation for being good bearers of Jehovah's name, for being different from worldly people. I was being "groomed " I see that now. Once the ban on JWs in my country was lifted I started getting little tasks like helping load and unload Watchtower publications from Bethel branch in neighbouring country. Then reading the book during book study meet, helping with the sound systems during conventions, kitchen duty at conventions before it was deemed "unspiritual" for brothers and sisters to dedicate all that time to preparing food and feed the crowd-it was deemed that they were missing out on the spiritual food being provided. I can honestly tell you I was incredibly lucky I got out. Otherwise I wouldn't have been here with you guys sharing my story, I would have been trying to avoid all of you!!!!🤣🤣
Yes Sanderson we do know what time it is. It is time to flee from watchtower.
LOL
Lloyd your critical thinking skills are superb. Thank you for sharing with us viewers.
👍🏼
he's brilliant. he tells his audience he's stopping but look at the video releases that keep coming. Nothing but respect for what he's contributed. His approach is excellen whether EXJW or not! Thanks Lloyd!
Keep Exposing Watchtower LIES and Disgusting Overwhelming Hypocrisy
@@carlosfasano800 the blood Guilty GB and Watchtower will Burn
Sounds like something Jim Jones would have told his followers.
My thoughts exactly…something like Jonestown, such a dangerous cult. I hope jw’s are paying attention.
Yep - it's like watching Jonestown happening again.
@@Kate-ue9gf They're not.
WOW....as creepy and scary as that sounds , it's so true 👍
They excuse themselves by saying they are not prophets or inspired, but yet they demand you do things even though they will seem unpractical, this is scary stuff if you are mentally in.
I thought of Jim Jones. Or them telling them turn homes and everything they own over to the watchtower organization.
“All of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive - whether they appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not.” (Watchtower Nov. 15, 2013)
How can Jehovah’s Witnesses not see how wrong that is??
When I read that in the Watchtower I knew that I couldn’t be a ‘Follower of Men’ anymore. My waking up process had started …
They yearn for a thrill, a new date, anything to break the boredom.
When Franz gave the main talk in 1975, I waited for the new lite
that would tell us when & where to run! Knowing it was all BS, was
such a huge relief !
they take liberty to have it both ways every time it serves them. without even thinking about it.
Mine too!
Also, it sounds very militaristic. They have been saying "We're at war!" "We are at spiritual warfare." They are the Generals and the flock are the literal rank and file. Unnerving.
Hello
These people are crazy and crafty.
They use the words "human point of view" to indirectly make people believe that their thinking comes directly from God.
It takes little to understand that they will lead all their followers to destruction.
It's just much of bs from them not acceptable from our stand point
When you’re an activist like some of us,, beeing constantly in the jehovah’s witnesses universe can be really dangerous for our mental health. We know how negative, mental controlling, fearmongoring, wicked this culture can be ! We absolutely need to balance it with positive vibes !
🐝 sending you positive vibes 🐝 ☺
And even more positive vibes from me ...all the way from Southeast Asia 🙂❤️
@@SunguchMan20 And here's a little more love !
They've been spouting the same old bs for over 100 years. Boring!
this made me laugh lol
Jon Woodmass. My Maternal Grandfather spewed the same WT B.S. back in the 1920's.🤦♀️🤦♂️
I heard it in the 1970's and 80's.
Same Broken Record, spinning on the turntable of Cult Propaganda and Indoctrination. 😣👎👎
Oh hi Mark, question: given your organization’s horrible track record of making demonstrable mistakes, constantly changing teachings, and falsely predicting Armageddon many times over, even admitting that you’re fallible and make mistakes, why in the flying fuck would anyone trust that this future “direction” would be life saving and without error? Respectfully, from those of us who like to occasionally use our brains. 🤓😁
🤣🤣🤣I love your post!👍
I agree with it 100%!!
In layman's terms " whatever we say ,whether you think it makes any sense whatsoever or not. Trust us.
If I’m a JW I’m expected to take life saving direction even if it sounds unreasonable from 8 men who’ve admitted they’re not inspired nor infallible and who can’t interpret the Bible correctly because if they could there would be no need for “new light”.
Yeah that sounds reasonable.
Xactly
TheVelvette Butterfly.
And...8 Men, that have ZERO knowledge about or direct personal concern about You/Your Best Interests/Or any other issue involving You.🤷♀️🤷♂️
Like I constantly point out to my Staunch JW Husband; These are 8 STRANGERS, Thousands of Miles/Kilometres Away, that should not have nor want to TRULY have any Concern about You as a person.
You can be sick or homeless or unemployed or any other issue...They do not care and will not show assistance. They only want Ego Boosting , Celebrity and Financial Gain. They have Zero empathy or sympathy towards others.
@@sparklecanada0112 I agree. It reminds me of people who idolize sports teams. They spend so much time watching games, spend money on going to games and buying memorabilia. At least with that they get some kind of enjoyment out of it. Not so much with the GB.
@@TheVelvetteButterfly
With the GB jws get criticism, mind and speech control, ultimately to thought control, and fear, leading to all manner of long term mental/emotional damage that’s often permanent
How sad to live in constant fear like that. Difficult if you are an adult, but even more so for the children.
Hi LLOYD, I think of you a lot and hope you can work out your problems. Don’t let life get you down. No one said it was easy!
4:00 I remember hearing this at the time. My Dad Said ‚so if we get a call from one of the elders telling us to go to the top of the hills with an umbrella in the middle of summer, that’s what we’re gonna have to do‘ and I was invisioning so many horror scenarios.
I’m gonna be watching for this type of action from JWs. Then I’ll know it’s about to hit the fan 😉
@@RogueWave2030 hopefully it’s only the sort of scenario I’ve explained, then when nothing happens, more people will break away. Unless they start making people drink the kool aid, that sort of stuff will just weaken them. Sat at the top of the mountains, Tony Morris tells everyone: „Be still my sheep, I’m receiving new light….. right, ok Armageddon starts Wednesday not today, so we‘ll be prepared for it then.“
Agree 100%. This is crazy. They are pulling out all the stops now.
Matthew 15:14: “Leave them; they are blind guides. If the blind lead the blind, both will fall into a pit”
I am scared for my family in this cult, it would not surprise me if they tell them to sell everything and move
Seemed like what he was hinting at...
Again you mean. Many of us did that once already in 1975 so it wouldn't be surprising at all.
....and send them the money! They have done it before!
Curious ... which of your family members are in WT ?
@@TruthHasSpoken my mom, her sisters and brothers step father
You are correct, Lloyd.
Who would readily agree to joining any Organization, if they were told at the Beginning, " You will Unquestioningly Agree to Forever Allow Us to Micromanage and Direct Your Life".🤦♀️🤦♂️
Absolutely brilliant Lloyd!! 👏👏👏
In a stupid kind of way.
"We demand you full trust and obey. Why? Because Jehova says so! Here, have this article *we wrote* to back up what we said!"
Was the Spanish flu in 1918 an indicator that marked the beginning of the great tribulation?
I wouldn’t doubt many events were the beginning of the tribulation.
@@RogueWave2030 How about the Bubonic plague during the middle ages? Did that also.mark.the beginning of the great tribulation. You see Sanderson suggested that Covid 19 is an indicator of the beginning of the great tribulation. I am sure there are unrecorded epidemics that occurred before the middle ages. At least 15 centuries have passed since the beginning of the great tribulation. How long does the beginning of anything last?
Spanish flu was another reset. Exact same script as the current "plandemic".
The Spanish flu killed 10 times more people than covid, in a time when the world population was a lot smaller.
@@yvonne3903 Exactly
Good Job Lloyd. reminds me of tears ago when the CO. said, "It is better to be wrong with the organization that right on your own" At the time I thought (it is never right to be wrong) now they keep repeating this (one day special instruction bit) sounds very dangerous to me and should be reported to the governments.
@MC K
What do you think that the governments would do about that?!
I am not into "reporting to the government".....government is no more inherently altruistic then the JW organization.....In the case of crime.....peadophiles etc....of course......or organization cover-up....but believe it or not....people can choose to believe in insane things......The thing is....while witnesses have "thought police".....I am more fearful of a government run "Thought Police" going after an organization like the Witnesses
@@josephmiller9240 I think you are spot on
@@greyberet1 They would most liklely give more money to the JWs
To quote their own literature and make it seem like it’s god sent. The seriousness on his face like god told him these words directly.
We are so close to an outbreak that we are going fully into the movie business. Jehovah has directed us to start acting our way into the new system.
🤣🤣
Hahaha. Yep!
They said that for over 100 years, it's time for them to shut up.
-' So dear brothers and sisters,do you know what time it is?!'.....
We sure do:' IT'S HOWDY DOODY TIME!!!!'.....🤣🤣
Laugh out loud ! Yep !
HMMM let me see no mention of Jesus the mediator.
I really enjoy these rebuttal sushi videos. I watched the whole annual meeting video but it's interesting to watch again in smaller portions. I have picked up on points that I missed in the longer video. I think this part of the annual meeting will help some people see what a cult the organization really is.
My mom is 95years old, mom gave her life to the jws, I was disfeloshiped a few times over, I put a stop to mom giving her money to them, they was bulling her, mom let them use her house for the service, since i was 5years old when my dad died, my mom joined the cult, and it is a cult, my mom is in a care home now, all the years mom has been zealous, i was taking mom out for the day, she has dementia, but she said to me, October 2021, "that lot", meaning jws, have had a lot of money from me, but they have never bothered to come and see me,,,, they are a disgrace,,, , i myself de- brainwash myself, years ago, so i was strong enough to stand up to them, thank you Lloyd, you are a treasure,
"i myself de- brainwash myself, years ago, so i was strong enough to stand up to them"
Good for you Diane !! Curious though how did you de-brainwash yourself??
He quotes The Botchtower like it's the bible.
BotchTower 🤣🤣🤣 Damn, that was funny....
I've heard them called "jehovians" too! 🤣🤣
@@BixbyLBC
I use Witchtower myself 😂.
@@terridovey7648
Good one, now I can use “jehovian witless” 😂.
@@greyberet1 Even better! 😅😅😅👍
If the GB says "Jump" your only question should be ....how high?
Repeating behaviour now of those who controlled the different religious cults around the world especially 1960s time of hippies and their commune living ideas to elders who took prime housing did no work as such, and the rest were given according to what status They considered you to have or your level of obedience to the Elders of the commune. It appears that this talk is very much on the same lines. Learn nothing but be obedient to Org...... We control and assimilate you according to our view of you. FACT.!!! We will tell you what to think behave and go.... No mention of their go bags now is there?
"Put your hands up to the sky,"
Yes, I completely agree. Your only question should be how high do I have to get to believe this b*******.
Actually u dont ask, once they say jump, u are suppossed to keep jumping until they say stop. Thats how twisted they are.
🤣🤣🤣🤣!!
To me, the top cult moment is quoting yourself. Am I supposed to be impressed by a person trying to add weight to their message by... reading the magazine they are an author of? How dumb does GB think people are?
the jw's problem is that when any instructions are read, they think
that jehova said it!
I mean it’s working. If they can accept the overlapping generation and still stick with this organization they’ll believe and accept anything at this point.
Unfortunately too many are dumb to be controlled.
When people say the Bible is true and God's word etc. because the Bible says so, it's kind of the same thing. Circular reasoning.
Sadly, the people are so brainwashed that they don’t realize they’re dumbing themselves down to accept this.
Holy drink the Kool-aid Batman! This is the scariest thing I’ve ever heard from the org. The shameless claim that they, the governing body are the way and the light to salvation is nothing short of blasphemous. How can they say what they do and not hear what they are saying?
Oh they are sinister and crafty
I agree they’re blasphemous. How dare the claim to speak for God.
@@ResearchThis sinister and crafty ......remind me , who else is often described with these words
Thank you so much Lloyd for all you do. You helped me so much and in that I was able to help my friends and some of my family wake up. Thank you!
Hi MC, can you share with me how you were able to wake some of your family members? I would like to learn how because i also would like to reach my sisters but am worried that i might drive them away if i opened up about them being in a cult...i would like to do it slowly and in the right way so as not to put a gap between us...
@@taramaitreya5265 its very difficult. Unfortunately in my experience you can't wake someone up. They need to take the first step. All you can do is be available as a resource if they ask questions. But if that does happen try not to water board them with information, you have to slowly drop little nuggets. Hope this helps!
The events of the past few months , I would prefer the sinner that is honest , than the self righteous sanctimonious. Your the voice Lloyd.
Agree. We ALL sin - and must be careful not to throw stones. To see the sin in Lloyd and not in oneself is to deceive oneself.
They the WT has a plan to ask something of strength from congregates. They would not focus on such a message without warrant behind it. Organization changes must be coming. It maybe unnerving to hear it and likely gets one to think a Jonestown scenario. But that has never been part of WT JW culture. Even suicidal threats made to elders can lead to a judicial committee. I suspect a big shift in policy or processes is coming. Excellent video and presentation Lloyd. 👍 Thank you so much.
This artical was written around when the first kh sell out started. Think they coming back to artical cause another big kh sell out on the way.
Maeby change of GB and going online connected to it also
Wow Lloyd, wow. I know i can speak for everyone when i say: You are truly a gift to us, your Brothers and Sisters
2:43 And if you believe that you will believe anything, and you will applaud my empty platitudes. Rictus smile, pause, annnnnnd applause - still got it. (Suckersssss)
Whenever I hear "NOW is the time!" I just roll my eyes... .that "time" has been called out for YEARS now
For over a century now🤣 they won't get tired of it
140yrs+ to be exact and it's like WHEN tf is "NOW" actually, now in real time? The answer is it's NEVER going to be now!!
I asked a Jw pimi…the Bible says we must obey god rather than man…they apply this to the government, husbands, and parents…they cannot override what god commands; so I ask…does this relative obedience apply to the governing body???
🦗 🦗 🦗
Great Job Lloyd 👍
I think I'll take my chances.
I always find it funny whenever the governing body quotes from the watchtower like it was not written by themselves.
And then say “we” should follow the directions, as if they came from elsewhere.😂
The eight governing body member's keep selling and purchasing property and building new compounds for the governing body member's. Double speak bull crap.
They are moving out to the boondocks and the question is why...they are prepping for the governing body to leave...why...they are building to something
Agree . Think they gonna remove current GB. Maeby remove elders and congregation arragment. Think whole obey thing has to do with online move.
@@charrua59 remove or no remove, the religion has failed the True God.
I think I will have a copy or printout of these watchtowers and point to these sentences to give to JWs when they preach to me as why I am not interested! That’s cult language!
I never have enough time for full rebuttals, and those sushis are really priceless. Thanks for editing & posting this format. Love your amazing job, take good care Lloyd. You've saved me when I was at my lowest, and I'll never forget that.
these creepy men make me want to puke!🤮. How sad and sickening people actually listen to them! When will these people in this cult wise up? what will it take? i’m at a loss. ?? This cult has ruined my whole family! Very sad.
Mine too. 😮💨
Mine too.
It's destroyed mine as well
My family are getting exactly what they want from this, the self righteous stand and the delusional power that they are right and will live forever and you will die a horrible death.
I follow all the ex jw youtube pods cos i have a pal who was dis fellowished an cudnt chat to his grandchild. My advice to him was,, if u follow man u have an hopeless end...follow God u wll have endless hope
Thank you for to me its a cult
Hi Lloyd! Thanks for the good work.
Thank you to Tibor who is clearly still working hard to put this information out to us.
WOW... INSANE...Lloyd is absolutely right this sort of reasoning is PSYCHOTIC, it really is , a hop , skip and a jump away from a Johnstown type event. I'm POMO I've been out for almost three years already , I'm never going back EVER, but if I was still in this organization, hearing this talk by Mark Sanderson would have been the end of it for me. It would have been my sign to, as the scripture in Revelation says " Get out of her my people ".
Most of the annual meeting was insane!!! Stephen Lett knocking the 1975 "Stay Alive in '75" stuff..I clearly remember how serious that was, forced into our brains for years before that!! He will insult many Witnesses who were there and remember. That part was crazy!! Why he brought that up makes no sense. The others insulted children who drew pics of them. Then this "new light" about the wicked being resurrected along with the righteous? Why would I want to survive Armageddon to have to live with, and supposedly teach, perverts and killers, people like Jim Jones himself, Hitler?? That's Paradise??? I don't think so
@@patriciaavenmarg5927 The worst annual meeting, YET!!!!
@@Markypoo-poo-8-Beans I made a mistake. It wasn't Stephen Lett who did that, it was Tony Teetotaler Morris!! My bad. They're all bad. They suck
@@patriciaavenmarg5927 Hey, you've seen and heard one, you've seen and heard them all.
@@Markypoo-poo-8-Beans I thought later on that when you said YET that the future ones could be worse...probably will😂😂
Miss you Lloyd hope all is well. ❤
So what they have said is that fireballs will come flying down from the sky to suddenly kill all non JW's but that all non living JW's will at the same time be resurrected for some short time, this doesn't make any sense?!
I guess I’m in trouble then...
My 74 year old dad is still in, but wavering everyday. Sometimes get him to talk about the religion and every time he comes back to this very point. He talk about how it doesn't make sense. 🤪
If Jesus really existed, I would not want to be a Governing Body member when they finally met with him in heaven.
If Jesus would have to chastise them for their atrocities, they ain't gonna make it to heaven!
Jesus is a warrior and I would hate to be on the other end of his sword.
Your most telling statement was "that this is only a hop, skip and a jump from Jonestown!"
Watchtower isn't about mass suicide. They're more likely to say empty your bank account than drink this poison.
How i wish that day will never come because i fear for the life of my two sisters and their family whom i love dearly, they remained active JWs up to this day. I left in 1983, my case was announced as apostasy in the congregation...though my sisters never really shunned me, but they remained faithful to their belief except that shunning thing. How i wish i could reach them with this message from Lloyd.
Hope your ok Lloyd we’re all thinking of you and the good work you have done over there years
My dad was communicating with me up until a month ago around this time suddenly I never hear from
Him and I’ve reached out to him too and he won’t answer. I wonder if this is why…
"I must obey!!" I'm saying this, in my mindless robot voice.🤣
Robot Voice: Now go forth and evangeli.... um... oh wait.. covid.. SCRATCH THAT
these are some of the most evil men on earth and try to make themselves look like Gods. The sad part is that so many are already drinking what they are given
Hypocrites every where aren't there Lloyd?
Hope you come back with some more great work for the community
Haha he was validating what he was saying by quoting a magazine he wrote lol
Great video, as always! You can tell he's drunk on power
*"how vital it is brothers to recognize Jehovah's channel for receiving spiritual food"*
Charles Russell taught that the bible students were the faithful and discrete slave (FDS)
The bible students taught Russell was the FDS.
Russell's wife said Charlie was the FDS.
Rutherford too taught for a while that Charlies was the FDS.
Then Rutherford (1935) said he was wrong on Russell, and decided that all the anointed were the FDS.
Then some 70+years later, 8 men said ALL the above were WRONG, and that THEY were the FDS.
So Watchtower couldn't recognize who the FDS was for over 100 years? Lot's of glasses need at Warwick because one never knows who the slave will be next year. It's more likely that this teaching will change in 2022 yet again than for Armageddon to come.
Oh yes the eight boys in blue are all getting older they are thinking how to keep the goose that lays the golden eggs alive.
@@yvonne3903 Yep. They are deluded, evil, men.
Hi Loyd, have been thinking about you and hope your doing well in your 3 month break.
The smugness of this elder is palpable - Sanderson is excruciating
Did Jesus encourage their followers to listen to man in the end times ? Or did he warn against those man?
Matthew 24:23:Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. 24 For there shall arise false Christs( anointed ones), and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. 25 Behold, I have told you before. 26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers(Organization ) believe it not.
What amazed me when I came out of JW is how much of Church history I had NO IDEA ABOUT. The rise of the Catholic Church, The Reformation, The Councils, ect ect. It was really encouraging to come and find that current Christianity is so open to its members testing the faith in all aspects of apologetics and counter points made by the world! Only a faith founded in corruption and lies is afraid of it's members to look outside of their watch tower walls! Its a watch tower because you are a prisoner and they are making sure you dont leave their compound!
His message from that 2013 magazine sounds like Jim Jones type stuff. The GB are not spirit directed however when they tell us to do what they say notwithstanding that it isn’t practical or logical from a sounds strategic or human standpoint that is certainly Jim Jones type stuff
Do you not find it strange that they always repeat that message, specifically pointing out that instructions may seems illogical? It’s like they already know what they might ask and they want JWs to be conditioned to not be surprised. I don’t think anyone would say: “Oh you need to follow my instructions even if they don’t make any sense” without having any idea at all about what could be asked. This is too specific to be a “just in case” scenario. Imagine if they asked all JWs to sell their assets, or quit their jobs, etc… what damage it could cause to their followers.
@Ben 182
They’ve done exactly that, if not overtly, they’ve hinted at it.
They have done that in the past.
WT have the JWs speculating about what and when, keeping them distracted to what is actually happening. The JWs will be whipped up into a frenzy and in a few years it will be denied and the JWs will be blamed and shamed, the same thing happened in 1975.
I feel betrayed once again.
Little do the Governing Body know, Elders make their own rules up unchecked whatever they may be, not even the Circuit Overseer has any awareness since he only appears once or twice a year to shake hands.
Think they know that by now. Thats why they going online. No more real congregation arragment
Cult level 1000 reached!
They love the word 'LIKELY'!
I remember the last time I “seeked” Jehovah. A family member was drowning right in front of me and I was powerless to help or to stop it. Dropped to my knees, clasped my hands together and begged god to help. To stop it. To take me instead. Anything.
He died a horrific death, and I had a front row seat. It was that day I learnt that there is no god. Or at the bare minimum, not one I would ever worship. If god does exist, he’s a deplorable monster of the worst kind.
And these goons only serve to prove it, over and over again.
Your experience is heartbreaking. I guess it opened your eyes to the truth. Sorry you had to go thru that.
So sorry that happened!
I am so sorry you had to witness that and it obviously has had a huge impact on your life.
I also have been in situations where I beg God to take my pain away or change an event in my life I’m agonizing over. Unfortunately God isn’t a genie in a lamp where we rub it and are granted three wishes. Does God allow circumstances in our lives that are not pleasant where we feel like he’s abandoned us and turned his back and say “Too bad, deal with it yourself”. Yes it feels like that and I know how it feels. Again I’m so sorry for your pain.
@HeliRy
“I don’t know whether god exists but it would be better for his reputation if he didn’t”. -
Jules Renard, French author and philosopher
@@greyberet1 You’re right. Humans have a better reputation. We just have little flaws like murder, rape, assault, theft, lying. We’re so much better!!!
What I hear is just do as you're told and dont even think about questioning it. Very very alarming. And why do they keep repeating and reinforcing it? Im so glad Im out of this dangerous cult. Thank you Lloyd for all your hard work it is greatly appreciated by so many of us.
More judgment! Matthew 7:1 (Lk 6:37) - “Do not judge, or you too will be judged". Always judging and trying to find a defense of their ridiculous theology. These people are their own worst enemy! Obey the GB "no matter what!, or watch out." This cult destroys people!
Always near the overlapping great tribulation, was the same when I was in during the 70s
I think this gives evidence as to how helpless the GB is in stemming the growing exodus from their cult. Clamping down on the remaining adherents and "reinvigorating" them with the trust-and-obey motif is all they have left. It's a sign of desperation for them to have to reguritate 2013 literature on the need for blind obedience. They're losing control and they know it.
I think this will eventually come back to haunt them. You can only cry”Woolf” so many times
I hope it's haunting these bastards right now!
Thank you for taking the time to make these videos. Thank you for taking the time to share well thought out critiques from an objective place. Your videos have been worth years of therapy for me
In other words they gonna sell out more Kingdom halls and go online. Plus media center building.
Exactly! That was there plan from the beginning and now COVID has given them the boost they needed to led the pigs to slaughter
I'm one of the lucky few that broke away from this organization, my mom is starting to go back...I'm so worried for her.
What gets me is how they stopped the door to door witnessing. Really if they really believed they where doing Jehovah's work and had his blessing, would.nt they trust he would protected them from Covid? And ehy would they shrink back from Gods command to preach? Guess they really know there not directed by God and don't want there followers who they get there cash flow from to get sick loss of income.
Omg that just makes no sense at all how come they don’t notice it ?
And what’s the point of it ? Why to scare people that way? I remember experiencing fear when I was a JW
The end is coming, you’ll be killed etc 😔
Just drink the Koolaid!
We're from the government, we're here to help you, trust us.
I do NOT know how they don’t see that this is a cult. Do what I say or else….yeah that worked when I was a little kid BUT I grew up. This cult is why I question EVERYTHING and EVERYONE, much to my bosses chagrin, but I have to be able to question things, I’m traumatized by this organization, and they are in the top 2 or 3 as to why I’m in counseling.
ssf ... most have left or are planning to leave due to their distrust. This is why those words were uttered by the un-governing body.
@@nitroburp2694 Yeah......I find them evil. Give us your ice cream money, yet Tony spends probably $1000 on his fancy Scotch, or Stephen buys an expensive rental property.....do as I say, not as I do didn't work when I was a child, and it doesn't work now. BUT they are so successful at brainwashing their members or more accurately terrorizing them by threatening into losing everyone they love and all they have ever known if they dare to question them.
Just watched this again and wow, if there is ever a chance to show just one video to a JW this would be it. Lloyd’s analysis is perfect ❤
I hope some day they dont ask their members to drink poison to be saved
Something is coming and it won't be good
Their lies are the poison.
@@fredbenz69 like what exactly @fredbenz
@@anselmdike2817 I don't know, they are already asking them to will their property, that's something that they wouldn't have asked in the 80s and 90s when I was in. I don't recognize this cult
Wow ...so I wonder who they gonna will their property to ? Governing body...this is a serious thing going on out there
Very hard to gain perspective on a cult when your in it, I really miss my parents and wish they would leave but these old fat arrogant men keep stringing them along, you get sucked into it when you listen only for a few minutes, I suppose we all want some kind of hope but at what cost!!
it’s mind blowing how the human brain works.
The reality is the world is a crazy place always has been always will be, and yes life is short enjoy and treasure every day it’s a gift that’s for sure, live 100% in the present that’s all we have and it’s amazing
Wow, thank you Lloyd for this excellent rebuttal and providing us ‘food at the proper time’ 😂
What do exactly does the GB think has been unprecedented in the last 100 years? War, famine, disease etc... have been, and will continue to be the norm, not the exception. The "look at how bad things are getting" logic is part of what woke me up. Things are better than they ever have been. There is no good argument for it.
Absolutely, what's been unprecedented is the fact that so few people have died thanks to science and the medical profession who have worked very hard risking their own lives and the welfare of their own families, quite a different perspective to WT
@@yvonne3903 I read Factfulness by Hans Rosling, it's one of the books that woke me up actually, and I recommend it to everyone. I tried discussing it with my parents while I was still on the fence. It was like talking to a wall. They couldn't shut me down with the old apostasy cop out, so they just wouldn't acknowledge anything I said. It was actually kind of disturbing, watching the people that raised me just outright deny reality. It felt similar to interacting with someone with late stage dementia or Alzheimer's.
@@ricksanchez9669 that is so well put. Yes your absolutely right.
I was a JW during 1975 era and afterwards it was the same people suddenly were in complete denial and the blanking was like the zombie land. I was looking at them and thinking to myself wait a minute last week it was a different story, they just shut down and major gaslighting. I'll look up that book sometime, thanks for the recommendation. The organisation is beginning to freak me out with its outlandish attitudes and claims, I feel sorry for anyone that is still in.
I've just looked him up and I've listened to him before.
It was about the man at the bottom walking to the market with his produce and saving to buy a bicycle, because that would allow him to get to market quicker and carry more produce and next he wanted to buy a motorcycle etc and he made the comparison to the guy at the top in his helicopter who is so far away that everybody looks the same, the guy walking, the guy with his bicycle etc and the guy with his posh car.
I recognised his voice immediately, have you come across that lecture?
WT do a linear projection based on nothing else changing, but real life is different factors change all the time like technology has made life unrecognisable from even 20 years ago and population trends so people life longer in better health just by introduction of contraceptives making families smaller and therefore having better living standards. The examples are endless, but WT are stuck in some extrapolation of 1940/50
@@yvonne3903 I feel like I have. I'll have to revisit it though cause the point of it escapes me rn.
Reading the bible one story they did things while questioning the punishment was death & then there's another story where they did things without question & the reward was... death! It's always an either or scenario no matter which is chosen & then it's "Hah gotcha!! You get to die anyway!"
EVERYTHING is an "indication" that "we're so close." SMH
Jehovah tells Jehovah witnesses to eat fruits and vegetables every Jehovah witnesses I know just eat junk food
Yeah, I often ask, “have you ever known a Jehovah’s Witness that got disfellowshipped for the sin of gluttony?”
The GB says: "Do as we say, don´t do as Jehovah says"
Jonestown incoming.
This is frightening. Absolutely dangerous drink the Kool Aid type stuff.