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  • Опубликовано: 19 авг 2024
  • 8.5 million Jehovah's Witnesses relish the prospect of one day frolicking on a panda-strewn planet earth that has been terraformed into a cross between Switzerland and the Bahamas. But start asking too many questions about this yearned-for utopia, and it soon begins to unravel.
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  • @ruebrooks287
    @ruebrooks287 3 года назад +563

    When i was a JW child the most thing I looked forward to in paradise was having a pet tiger. I'm now 55 and and have a cat, near enough 😆

    • @jeffreybungle457
      @jeffreybungle457 3 года назад +32

      Congratulations sister Baskin

    • @dannydoughboy120
      @dannydoughboy120 3 года назад +3

      LOL

    • @vw5036
      @vw5036 3 года назад +3

      Aww 🤣

    • @Aiken47
      @Aiken47 3 года назад +23

      How are you going with getting older? I’m 52 and there are times I’m struggling to accept it, I was told my whole childhood I wouldn’t get past 20 because the paradise would be here by then. Then 30. I left by 28 and 7 years of near fatal, unsupported depression

    • @erenjeager4369
      @erenjeager4369 3 года назад +2

      The thing is it's okay even it's carnivorous, if you practice them to eat leaves and be friendly with you ever since they born, they are gonna learn it and follow how you practiced them ..
      And also can be a herbivorous..
      ALSO think that there's so many animals out there these days who were trained like that and now living so well even they did born as carnivores....
      That's what GB's tool too;;; brainwashing..

  • @oceanmariep256
    @oceanmariep256 3 года назад +234

    Those damn crocodiles got in my garden and ate all my daisies again

    • @Beleen-gw3vw
      @Beleen-gw3vw 3 года назад +7

      dying🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @Beleen-gw3vw
      @Beleen-gw3vw 3 года назад +8

      best comment 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @evahughes6807
      @evahughes6807 3 года назад +7

      😄😄😄

    • @toweypat
      @toweypat 3 года назад +5

      LOL

    • @mailill
      @mailill 3 года назад +9

      LOL! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Congratulations! You just won the comment section!

  • @naufrage0
    @naufrage0 3 года назад +459

    Sisters can clean up bodies but not hold a microphone.

    • @hindsightpov4218
      @hindsightpov4218 3 года назад +35

      JW women are expected to know their place.

    • @gingermaniac5484
      @gingermaniac5484 3 года назад +27

      They already clean the house, they where made for this, holding things? Not so much.
      Must clean
      Must be undirty
      Don’t stop cleaning
      .

    • @erenjeager4369
      @erenjeager4369 3 года назад +14

      The cleaning up bodies is upto sisters??? Not brothers??

    • @Beleen-gw3vw
      @Beleen-gw3vw 3 года назад +10

      @@erenjeager4369 sure. all the cleanings are sisters stuff

    • @alieninthecaribbean
      @alieninthecaribbean 3 года назад +6

      I know RIGHT?

  • @zuglymonster
    @zuglymonster 3 года назад +309

    Birds are going to eat the dead but I thought that all animals would only eat plants in paradise

    • @Beleen-gw3vw
      @Beleen-gw3vw 3 года назад +25

      EXACTLY!!! great 💭 !

    • @clairenollet2389
      @clairenollet2389 3 года назад +35

      Temporary carnivores?

    • @blackalien6873
      @blackalien6873 3 года назад +7

      @@clairenollet2389 LMBAO!

    • @RawGameplay0
      @RawGameplay0 3 года назад +12

      Plot Hole lol

    • @tipikaa3018
      @tipikaa3018 3 года назад +10

      Maybe thats how the carnivores are meant to eat in paradise, there's gonna be 7 plus billion dead bodies haha 😂

  • @cygnustsp
    @cygnustsp 3 года назад +298

    Like many others, i cannot believe that i used to believe this nonsense

    • @xlortiz
      @xlortiz 3 года назад +21

      elders told us lions & tigers would eat only grass cause they'll be peaceful and no longer 'kill'

    • @disassociated1731
      @disassociated1731 3 года назад +15

      this is probably the main question we ex born- in jw have!! I was raised with the Paradise Lost... book, in the 50s. Why did I believe that there was a paradise at the beginning? my parents believed it, but also the other christian catholic or protestant kids were familiar with this idea...it was in our christian culture. How could a creationist believe that God s creation wasn’ t perfect at beginning? this is the original false idea, which leads to false conclusions. Later, as young adults, we all asked or even discussed most of the 12 questions. But we thought, there are no answers, its beyond our understanding, J will help us in time. Some of us were not longing to a Switzerland style paradise, we believed in technology and science. We knew that the paradise pictures were just a common accepted illustration. Once you believe in a lost paradise, it makes sense to believe there is a divine plan to recover it...

    • @erenjeager4369
      @erenjeager4369 3 года назад +5

      People always know how to make excuses... that's the way to lose.. :)

    • @milham76
      @milham76 3 года назад +10

      Yes, it's almost embarrassing, isn't it? Not only thst but we tried to convert others to that way of thinking.

    • @disassociated1731
      @disassociated1731 3 года назад +10

      @@milham76 yes, not only did we try, as for me, i succeeded and brought « in » a lot of ppl, even in my college time; they also raised their children in this way...now i bitterly regret, and also, they were my best friends, and i lost them

  • @clarity2478
    @clarity2478 3 года назад +289

    How many have not married, not had children, never lived in their own houses, how many
    just preached & sat for hundreds of hours on their butts trying not to fall asleep!
    Just a colossal loss for them & society!

    • @aric3919
      @aric3919 3 года назад +59

      This! I’ve put off marriage and having children because I’ve believed I’d have time in the new system. How many of us have made irreversible life decisions w these teachings? This org has to be stopped. They are literally robbing people of their lives.

    • @clarity2478
      @clarity2478 3 года назад +31

      @@aric3919 yes purposely robbing the flock of their human rights, even to chose medical treatments to save their lives! Remember how GB Geffrey Jackson tried to convince single sisters to stay single, & when his wife died he married a much younger woman within a couple of mths! .

    • @clarity2478
      @clarity2478 3 года назад +4

      @@jerryjohanan1940 go slow, make your plan.

    • @laymanphil8513
      @laymanphil8513 3 года назад +16

      @@jerryjohanan1940 I have already saved my children in 2019 and my wife is following the same path. I was the first in my family to wake up (april 2019) . Once freed from this psychic grip, my health improved and all my chronic pain subsided to the amazement of those around me. Today I help PIMO more and more to prepare their outings. I am at peace with myself because I am finally myself. The rest of the family and the in-laws will follow, it's only a matter of time, I was just faster than them.

    • @michellelucier
      @michellelucier 3 года назад +13

      I remember an article in the Awake, when I was a kid, it said that people should think about not having children in this system but instead wait for the new system of things. I wonder how many people have done that.

  • @kilojuliet6889
    @kilojuliet6889 3 года назад +246

    Notice how Lett said "The Watchtower commented on that" and not the Bible

    • @Beleen-gw3vw
      @Beleen-gw3vw 3 года назад +10

      meanwhile wt got apparently the same amount (if even not more) of reliability like the „holy” 📖 !!! incredible

    • @MattG171
      @MattG171 3 года назад +8

      Yeah that struck me as well. Basically like a snake eating its tail.

    • @marvalice3455
      @marvalice3455 3 года назад +7

      @C L sitting your own work as proof is so cringe.

    • @JimCampbell777
      @JimCampbell777 3 года назад +7

      The Weirdo appeals to authority...which is himself.

    • @marvalice3455
      @marvalice3455 3 года назад +1

      @@ronnieortega1709 it's more close to real Christianity than Jehovah's witnesses

  • @johnnylavery5512
    @johnnylavery5512 3 года назад +108

    The biggest problem of living in "paradise" is that it's in a world filled with Jehovah's Witnesses. No thanks

    • @Geohovahs_Hand
      @Geohovahs_Hand 3 года назад +20

      Yes. I'd rather be in peace and dead.

    • @lilnarm_smoothblaze
      @lilnarm_smoothblaze 3 года назад +14

      And we all know that most Jehovah's Witness show superficial love only if you're a fellow Jehovah's Witness, now am I suppose to expect real love in a so-called Paradise?!

    • @andrewgibson7610
      @andrewgibson7610 3 года назад +5

      Yes and I want to grow my hair long and listen to heavy metal and drink 🍺 beer but it will not be allowed 🍻🎸

    • @stevenclarke5606
      @stevenclarke5606 3 года назад +5

      The witnesses will be redundant because there are no doors to knock on or people to convert! LOL

    • @Plethorality
      @Plethorality 3 года назад

      will it be patadise for pedos?

  • @EfrainRiveraJunior
    @EfrainRiveraJunior 3 года назад +196

    I didn’t believe that we would forget those we loved. I never accepted that teaching.

    • @wunderinwyndfeatherakaskje8872
      @wunderinwyndfeatherakaskje8872 3 года назад +29

      Me neither...like how would that be "lovingly" possible...😢

    • @naufrage0
      @naufrage0 3 года назад +39

      That was one of the last straws for me. I’m a born in multi generational but nothing they said ever made sense to me since childhood. I always figured I wasn’t doing a good enough job but when I turned 18-19 I said that’s it and discovered my spirituality for myself. Had a brief relapse at 25 but no matter how hard I tried none of this made sense and I couldn’t stand the fakeness and lack of genuine love. I always felt if I had to spend eternity with this lot then I’d rather die anyway. It was only after all of this I discovered the online commit exjws and felt massive validation. So proud of us all for making it out.

    • @kirstenornelas881
      @kirstenornelas881 3 года назад +45

      I used that teaching against my family when I left. I asked them why they were sad that I left? When you get to the new system you won't miss me and I'll not know I'm not there so why would you be sad now? I got a ton of blank stares but never got a legit answer to these questions

    • @kirstenornelas881
      @kirstenornelas881 3 года назад +39

      @@wunderinwyndfeatherakaskje8872 nothing about what the Bible teaches is "loving". God creates man, God gets in a pissing match with an angel, God throws the angel to earth on a bet. God loses the bet, God creates suffering as part of his divine tantrum and then God threatens death to all who don't make him happy.

    • @EfrainRiveraJunior
      @EfrainRiveraJunior 3 года назад +11

      @@kirstenornelas881 - Great answer.

  • @yall2743
    @yall2743 3 года назад +166

    Always rejoys for tomorrow, never enjoy today. That is their real slogan

    • @nycbuzz22
      @nycbuzz22 3 года назад +22

      Yup, keep waiting on Jehovah, you'll be happy in the future. For now be miserable and suffer Satan's onslaught until I fix everything for you. Until then, keep waiting....and waiting...

    • @blackalien6873
      @blackalien6873 3 года назад +12

      The same message was utilized to keep slaves in their place. You're life here is shit, but it will be wonderful in heaven. So, just don't try to rebel.

    • @beautyRest1
      @beautyRest1 3 года назад +5

      @@blackalien6873 yep, exactly, I agree, I’m white from Europe, but my spouse was black and my child too.

    • @beekind14
      @beekind14 3 года назад +11

      This is the thinking that has damaged my ability to enjoy the moment, to stop the subconscious feeling that I'm always waiting for life to start. I hate it.

    • @yall2743
      @yall2743 3 года назад +6

      @@beekind14 I believe that once you know the source, you can unroot it. It takes work but when I got out at first, I thought oh all this will disappear so it's like I'm walking in a back to the future movie and I get to see the world before it changed. That helped me in the beginning, now I just catch myself being to much about tomorrow and I go in to the feeling of being here and now. For example : oh, I'm going to eat ice cream in bed and watch a movie based on magic and just take care of myself in this moment. " daydream.. Or do something else you feel like.. Having a beer with friends... The important is to enjoy now and yes.. Do those classic new age adwice of meditating on the word fun.. Or happy and what it means to you... Sounds corny but it really works.. Show your soul that you can play hooky on those stupid doomsday thoughts. 😁

  • @yall2743
    @yall2743 3 года назад +122

    I can tell you that since leaving Jw s there has been no lonely deserts or frozen thundras in my soul or heart. Especially after finding this channel!! High five to all of you grown-up inner children who got out!! So good to see you!!! 🙌

    • @wunderinwyndfeatherakaskje8872
      @wunderinwyndfeatherakaskje8872 3 года назад +4

      You as well! 💪🏽😁💕🇨🇦

    • @yall2743
      @yall2743 3 года назад +1

      @@wunderinwyndfeatherakaskje8872 ❤️❤️❤️

    • @sabrinadobbins2249
      @sabrinadobbins2249 3 года назад

      Most surely you have your reward in full

    • @doylanecraig1787
      @doylanecraig1787 3 года назад +4

      Yep got out 50 years ago. No turning back!

    • @dodzgarcia3369
      @dodzgarcia3369 11 месяцев назад

      Yeah me too, got out when i was 20 and will be 76 this sept '23, had a clear mind with no misgiudance from d watchtower since then.

  • @catht9653
    @catht9653 3 года назад +156

    It would make a great horror movie for someone to make a movie of Armageddon and what the JWs who survived actually got as their "paradise."

    • @Bruceylancer
      @Bruceylancer 3 года назад +13

      Exactly, lol :D Would 100% watch.

    • @danielferguson3245
      @danielferguson3245 3 года назад +8

      I always wanted to make a movie where the four horsemen start their attack with Jesus but hadn't been paying attention to the advancements of civilization... jesus mounts his attack with his army of angels, but inadvertently gets hit by an airplane on their way down to earth lol

    • @touchdaroad688
      @touchdaroad688 2 года назад +3

      @@samuelboczek1834 there is one on kweli TV app it's a movie made about if the witnesses were right its kinda creepy

    • @thomaskoukouris4070
      @thomaskoukouris4070 2 года назад +1

      I used to think about this about 10 years ago as a kid. I used to think if I ever became a film director I would do this hahah

    • @graciehart1001
      @graciehart1001 2 года назад

      YES!,,

  • @blindmansbluff
    @blindmansbluff 3 года назад +187

    Eternal life as a gardener. That's an awful lot of weeding.

    • @siennacrafty7878
      @siennacrafty7878 3 года назад +13

      I remember being told and reading that Weeds came as a curse a punishment when Adam and Eve sinned

    • @wunderinwyndfeatherakaskje8872
      @wunderinwyndfeatherakaskje8872 3 года назад +17

      @@siennacrafty7878 thats alot of bull...cuz many many weeds are actually medicinal plants...🤔😉

    • @truereview1172
      @truereview1172 3 года назад +2

      @@siennacrafty7878 LOL 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @scoremat
      @scoremat 3 года назад +13

      Just as long as they aren't growing or using any actual weed 😅🌳🌬💨🥴
      That would be too much fun, even for paradise!

    • @maryannlockwood7806
      @maryannlockwood7806 3 года назад +17

      @@siennacrafty7878 yeah used to tick me off when I was growing up when they would say that the reason women have labor pains is because Eve sinned. I started thinking well if that’s the case why do all animals when they go into labor have discomfort? They didn’t do anything wrong. Just one of my many questions that just didn’t make any sense growing up in this cult. 🤔

  • @pattieodonnell723
    @pattieodonnell723 3 года назад +233

    And why in this work-free world, are the women STILL serving meals?

    • @amberarizmendi7791
      @amberarizmendi7791 3 года назад +38

      Well, if this new world is full of joy, it must be saying that women’s greatest joy is to be found in serving men.

    • @rosssmith8481
      @rosssmith8481 3 года назад +7

      According to the doctrine. Jesus states to the pharisees, there will be no marriage in paradise.

    • @brianwithers162
      @brianwithers162 3 года назад +6

      What will we wear. Who will make our frocks and trousers. Perhaps we will all be happy with nakedness. Hope I don't live in a northern climate running around like the Swedish naked in the snow.

    • @theyoutubeanalyst3731
      @theyoutubeanalyst3731 3 года назад +9

      I Guess the idea of women serving others was so natural to the GB that they didnt took a pause to think wait, this Is Paradise.

    • @JimCampbell777
      @JimCampbell777 3 года назад +10

      Because religion is man-made...???

  • @EfrainRiveraJunior
    @EfrainRiveraJunior 3 года назад +124

    Watching these Governing Body members in action was a great part of my waking up.

    • @morpheus5302
      @morpheus5302 3 года назад +3

      I wish my little brother would wake up...

    • @EfrainRiveraJunior
      @EfrainRiveraJunior 3 года назад +1

      @@morpheus5302 - Do you speak to your brother?

    • @morpheus5302
      @morpheus5302 3 года назад +1

      @@EfrainRiveraJunior yes, luckily i have a decent relationship with him because I didnt get to baptism, but he did a couple of years ago.

    • @EfrainRiveraJunior
      @EfrainRiveraJunior 3 года назад +8

      @@morpheus5302 - Good. I have a good relationship with my younger brother, and it was him who triggered my waking up. He did so by asking me questions about Beth Sarim, The Australian Royal Commission, etc. In my quest to prove him wrong... I ended up waking up from the cult.

    • @morpheus5302
      @morpheus5302 3 года назад +3

      @@EfrainRiveraJunior thats very encouraging thanks you. However I feel a pressure in muy chest whenever I want to talk to him about It, i mean physical pain. Also, I end Up crying most of the times. But thank you, for giving me hope.

  • @kandykayne1561
    @kandykayne1561 3 года назад +160

    I could not get past the thought that my husband and I were going to go through all these trials and tribulations and if one of us dies we would not be together in paradise. When I learned this was what we were to believe I said to the group “ if that’s true than I’m out . I will live now and be with my husband now. If it’s possible that I won’t be with my husband in paradise than I don’t want to be there . What’s the point ? Maybe some of you don’t like your spouses so this sounds good to you but , I love my husband and I don’t want to live forever without him “ I got a lot of shocked looks and no one really knew what to say to me .

    • @rosssmith8481
      @rosssmith8481 3 года назад +7

      When the pharisees ask Jesus the question about who will be the man's wife if he continues to remarry. Jesus answer that there is no marriage. That's why they say: till death do you part.

    • @rosssmith8481
      @rosssmith8481 3 года назад +1

      Of course you will be with your husband in paradise. You just won't be having kids anymore.

    • @marvalice3455
      @marvalice3455 3 года назад +17

      soooo many witnesses can't stand their spouse. people thought my dad and step mom always got weird looks because they never wanted to be split up in service. some actually said it was creepy how they are always with each other.
      like no, that's how you are _supposed_ to feel about your spouse!

    • @marvalice3455
      @marvalice3455 3 года назад +1

      @@rosssmith8481 that's not what Jesus said...

    • @rosssmith8481
      @rosssmith8481 3 года назад +2

      @@marvalice3455 Mathew 22 28;
      In the resurrection therefore whose wife shall she be of the seven? for they all had her. 29 But Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God. 30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as angels in heaven.
      This is why you are free to remarry since marriage ends at death

  • @debbieyule8565
    @debbieyule8565 3 года назад +75

    Had a lovely walk today I'm already living in paradise this wonderful planet earth. Love to all

    • @wunderinwyndfeatherakaskje8872
      @wunderinwyndfeatherakaskje8872 3 года назад +10

      Me to...frosted trees along a swiftly flowing river...bright blue skies...birds a chirping...lovely! 👍🏽☺️

  • @vicroy5603
    @vicroy5603 3 года назад +120

    This one should be shared far, and wide. It's a knockout!

    • @franktobia4169
      @franktobia4169 3 года назад +4

      Yes, it will be good

    • @rwssel2.052
      @rwssel2.052 3 года назад +8

      And TRANSLATED to as many languages may I add.

    • @taramaitreya5265
      @taramaitreya5265 3 года назад +6

      I have just shared it on my facebook page, and hope my two sisters will see it and watch. I was just thinking about this topic about a week ago, and here comes a video explaining it so clearly, i was so happy to see this...thanks Lloyd.

    • @sasukeuchiha8648
      @sasukeuchiha8648 3 года назад +4

      Yeah a knockout to PIMI JWs. This can awaken any sleeping JWs.

    • @erenjeager4369
      @erenjeager4369 3 года назад +6

      PLEEEAASEEE SHAAAAAAREEEEE AND HELP THEM HELP THOSE PEOPLE !!!!!

  • @iansayers2414
    @iansayers2414 3 года назад +106

    When I was 12 I pointed out the carnivore dilemma to my dad, a loyal JW, and he surprised me by confiding that he thought it was figurative and the society was misinterpreting it as literal, something he probably wouldn't have dared tell most people. My family towed the line, they were missionaries, so it made me wonder how many JWs secretly disagree with the society on this most obvious point and just don't dare to admit it. Probably a good half.

    • @JustMark87
      @JustMark87 2 года назад +1

      I'm not related to JWs at all but have a similar belief of the 1000 years, my thoughts are either lab grown meat, or we genetically modify all the carnivores to become herbivores.

    • @davidfaraday7963
      @davidfaraday7963 Год назад +3

      @@JustMark87 Or God just waves his magic wand and "hey presto" all problems disappear.

    • @darh3375
      @darh3375 Год назад +1

      David…remember it’s ‘livvy-oh-sah’ not livvy-oh-soh’ … :-)

    • @titanomachy2217
      @titanomachy2217 Год назад

      Anyone that knows much about biology would know that carnivores physically cannot survive on plant matter as their gastrointestinal tract isn't sophisticated enough. Herbivores typically either have multiple stomachs in which plant matter is fermented (like ruminants) or crops full of stones (like certain birds or sauropods) or they have extra long intestines (like perissodactyl ungulates such as horses) to extract as many calories and vitamins and minerals from the vegetation they eat as possible. Herbivory evolved millions of years later than carnivory, as it is easier for an animal to turn meat into flesh than it is to extract protein from plants or biosynthesize it. So yeah, I'm sure you're right, I bet tons of JWs harbor unspoken doubts about that teaching, among several others.

    • @flibnit1
      @flibnit1 22 дня назад

      My grandmother told me the same thing. When I got disfellowhipped she also told me she didn't agree with the arrangement and never had. And she's been baptized for 60 years. It is her philosophy to quietly disbelieve things that don't make sense to her and wait for the GB to catch up LOL

  • @alans.wendelschafer6588
    @alans.wendelschafer6588 3 года назад +61

    I always feel like the more that Paradise gets talked about, less convincing it is.

    • @morpheus5302
      @morpheus5302 3 года назад +4

      Lies benefit from brevity, repetition and isolation. It seems that exJW along with fellow "wordly" listeners and activists and breaking the isolation part of the lie and WT is no longer able to keep the brevity and repetition of it. They need to change the message to adapt to stronger real feelings like living on the most peaceful era of our species, having increased our population so dramatically in the recent years and defeated yet another pandemic with less casualties, less economic damage and much more home entertainment than the last one.

    • @milham76
      @milham76 3 года назад +2

      And the less appealing it sounds....

    • @TheGkmasta
      @TheGkmasta 3 года назад +6

      It is kind of funny how Paradise is the grand prize yet it is so rarely discussed in any detail among JWs and when it is, it's just a mess of speculation, unanswered questions, and cognitive dissonance that leaves everyone in perplexed silence at the end.

  • @stiguy-pi5rh
    @stiguy-pi5rh 3 года назад +108

    Once had an older woman in the congregation tell me we wouldn’t poop in the new world because poo was an imperfect biproduct of our body. I about fell over laughing. Great vid as always

    • @23scottishguy
      @23scottishguy 3 года назад +11

      omg haha thats funny as hell

    • @barriekelley2241
      @barriekelley2241 2 года назад +6

      Not all people have a clear understanding. That’s why personal study is so important.

    • @liz090833
      @liz090833 2 года назад +13

      Oh. I was wondering about that. Poo is gross but the alternative seems unhealthy. "Our bums shall be sewn shut with the golden thread of the holy spirit"-the governing body. 😃

    • @bro-jr1vn
      @bro-jr1vn 2 года назад +2

      how is that funny we just wouldn’t have to go

    • @claudiagonzalez520
      @claudiagonzalez520 2 года назад

      😂💩

  • @blueraspberrylemonade32
    @blueraspberrylemonade32 3 года назад +43

    I have my alarm, energy drink and notebook waiting for this

    • @gbunting7905
      @gbunting7905 3 года назад +4

      I have gin

    • @Sam_reflexio
      @Sam_reflexio 3 года назад +2

      @@awakeburndownwtandletthego4629 You got cool nickname. Incredible haiku )))

  • @MarikoHulme
    @MarikoHulme 3 года назад +140

    Theory: The Amish are already living the life of JW New Earth

    • @bradmiley
      @bradmiley 3 года назад +13

      So has the trib happened and the Amish ARE the JWs who were raptured previously, in an earlier incarnation of the Earth? "Previously on Earth Rapture 1914..."

    • @marvalice3455
      @marvalice3455 3 года назад +7

      and it's shit.

    • @Mrsjennaferg
      @Mrsjennaferg 3 года назад +7

      Most Amish people have cellular phones and electricity now. Not even they have it as rough as JW would

    • @enkhuizenenkhuizen4094
      @enkhuizenenkhuizen4094 3 года назад +2

      @@Mrsjennaferg wrong

    • @jimbobaggans1564
      @jimbobaggans1564 3 года назад +6

      @@Mrsjennaferg
      A few years ago I passed an Amish girl in a buggy. She was on her cell phone. The horse's reigns were at her feet. The horse apparently knew the way. Lol

  • @unglaubiger5645
    @unglaubiger5645 3 года назад +51

    The jehovas Witness paradise sounds like a totalitarian state.
    You´ll gonna miss people who aren´t there with you, but you´ll not miss them because Jehova want you to.
    You´re told where to live and even if you don´t like it, you´ll like it because Jehova want you to.
    Apparently, Individuality and Freedom aren´t part of this paradise.

    • @sabrinadobbins2249
      @sabrinadobbins2249 3 года назад +1

      Spell Jehovah right at least.
      I can't even..this is all trash talk

    • @yvonne3903
      @yvonne3903 3 года назад +8

      Yes, no personal choice. Exactly as they currently live their lives.

    • @angel22893
      @angel22893 2 года назад +8

      @@sabrinadobbins2249 look at the user name missy! English is not the only language, other countries spell and say it differently.

    • @luke3172
      @luke3172 2 года назад +4

      @@sabrinadobbins2249 all you took away from the person’s comment, was that they left the “h” off Jehovah? If you care about the cult so much, why are you watching this video?

    • @ZayGPrettySweetz
      @ZayGPrettySweetz 2 года назад +4

      @@sabrinadobbins2249 actually..jehova is correct in other languages like Spanish

  • @gaetanodetorrice5555
    @gaetanodetorrice5555 3 года назад +66

    You ever noticed when they showed a paradise pictures in your books you never see a house 😂🤣🤔🤔

    • @wunderinwyndfeatherakaskje8872
      @wunderinwyndfeatherakaskje8872 3 года назад +5

      One fellow told my Mom...be living under the ...treez! 😳☺️

    • @zuglymonster
      @zuglymonster 3 года назад +15

      Yet as kids we all said "I want to live in *that house* in paradise"
      I just wanted one with an indoor pool.
      Shit I still want a house with an indoor pool.

    • @danielferguson3245
      @danielferguson3245 3 года назад +8

      Just a bunch of people wandering around and petting lions. I never signed up for hard labour. Lol

    • @wunderinwyndfeatherakaskje8872
      @wunderinwyndfeatherakaskje8872 3 года назад +1

      @@danielferguson3245 lol..And recieve ypur promised pet panda...proof that Jworg is a communistic way of controlling people...Jworg= communist cult...🤔🤨😉☺️💕🇨🇦

    • @danielferguson3245
      @danielferguson3245 3 года назад +5

      @@wunderinwyndfeatherakaskje8872 Seriously! I kinda wish I was at that assembly (no I don't) just to stand up and yell "WHAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING IS COMMUNISM". Haha

  • @newsystembad
    @newsystembad 3 года назад +14

    This shift toward painting the paradise as more like our modern world makes me almost think that they're trying to massage things so that one day they can just declare that the tribulation is over and they're in paradise now.

  • @crispmom
    @crispmom 3 года назад +61

    The part about JWs being assigned to live either in an urban or rural area (whether they like it or not) rubs me the wrong way. Even in a paradise Earth, JWs won't be able to make basic decisions about their daily lives, just like they aren't able to now without guidance from the GB. It's paternalistic and creepy. And the part about god resurrecting people with "perfect" bodies but still homosexual and making them change is not only downright absurd but also ridiculously and unnecessarily complicated; it's similar to the machinations of a third-rate Bond villain.

    • @sh0eh0rn4
      @sh0eh0rn4 3 года назад +7

      the thing that gets me is this: how is there even an urban area when it’s just a giant forest?! 🤣

    • @JA-xu4jf
      @JA-xu4jf Год назад +5

      Being told where I can live and work doesn’t sound like paradise to me.

  • @marciomaia4020
    @marciomaia4020 3 года назад +51

    If God can change a person to not miss their dead child after Armageddon then why can't he change the resurrected homosexual?

    • @JustEddie6569
      @JustEddie6569 3 года назад +3

      Exactly!

    • @AM.I.INACOMA
      @AM.I.INACOMA 3 года назад +6

      He doesn’t like homosexuals, wants them to suffer into the new world apparently 🙄

    • @toweypat
      @toweypat 3 года назад +1

      Exactly.

    • @sabrinadobbins2249
      @sabrinadobbins2249 3 года назад

      You don't know what you're talking about and how dare you say what God thinks of anyone. No one knows yet about all you keep speculating on. Why don't you focus on getting there so you will see. Hard to do though when you choose to be ignorant and have no faith and trust in yourself. Definition of reprobrate

    • @marciomaia4020
      @marciomaia4020 3 года назад +5

      @@sabrinadobbins2249 I don't know what I'm talking about but you do? Apparently you know what God thinks then. I choose to use logical reasoning and critical thinking, something you're failing to do. Faith is the excuse people give when they don't have good reason or evidence for what they believe, it's not a reliable guide to truth. If you have evidence you don't need Faith.

  • @judithtraylor5949
    @judithtraylor5949 3 года назад +20

    I'm still trying to wrap my head around an alligator chewing grass without lips. LOL

  • @1chadmon
    @1chadmon 3 года назад +20

    Outstanding job on this topic Lloyd!!! Thank you so much for this video. My husband was never a witness and I keep having to pause the video and explain the beliefs in more detail. Horrifyingly I still can explain the doctrine in detail. I’m so grateful to have gotten free from this cult and I am so grateful to you for your work.

  • @mariendal1962
    @mariendal1962 3 года назад +18

    O yes, i can imagine it. Cheetahs hunting down vegetables at 68 miles per hour! LOL LOL

    • @theocheese6732
      @theocheese6732 3 года назад

      Pahahhaha someone should make that into a cartoon

    • @gokaren420
      @gokaren420 3 месяца назад

      People and Animals were vegetarians before the flood

    • @mariendal1962
      @mariendal1962 3 месяца назад

      @@gokaren420 Oh yes. Tigers and lions and many more predators should have been ruminants, and the crocs should have lived on fallen fruits. The tiny black widow, which venom is strong enough to kill a human being should been eating the pieces of leafs that stuck to it´s web.
      Come on.... do you really believe in that?

  • @ah003x
    @ah003x 3 года назад +19

    I had a dream recently that I finally woke my mom up, and I was so relieved she was finally getting away from the cult. Then *I* woke up. Sigh...

    • @dennisconstantine624
      @dennisconstantine624 3 года назад +6

      Never give up, there’s always tomorrow.

    • @theocheese6732
      @theocheese6732 3 года назад +2

      I completely feel you with that lol. Had a dream where my brother finally got it and was like "so they're just wrong aren't they " but was a dream

    • @missmichelle2201
      @missmichelle2201 3 года назад +1

      How did you wake her up in your dream?

  • @hikingviking859
    @hikingviking859 3 года назад +45

    You want to irritate a JW, ask them these questions about the paradise. Although, the answer will be “we just don’t know those things yet” or something similar.

    • @cygnustsp
      @cygnustsp 3 года назад +4

      Mosquitoes

    • @agirlhasnoname6637
      @agirlhasnoname6637 3 года назад +5

      The answer always is "god has the answer" or "god knows"

    • @LarsPallesen
      @LarsPallesen 3 года назад +2

      Given that they "just don't know these things yet" they have an awful lot to say about this new earth paradise.

  • @beautyRest1
    @beautyRest1 3 года назад +49

    Next , they will have airplanes to fly you around in the paradise to where “the need is great”🤪🥺

    • @denisehill3760
      @denisehill3760 3 года назад +5

      Crazy!!!

    • @Bruceylancer
      @Bruceylancer 3 года назад +6

      It's funny how even your comment highlights an issue with the whole thing. Since JWs are so opposed to higher education, only a small fraction of them possesses any kind of expertise, especially in aviation. Who's going to construct the planes, once all the planes left after Armageddon (if there even would be any) exhaust their operational timeline? Who's going to be pilots? Who's going to operate the airports? Who's going to mine the crude oil? Who's going to refine it into jet fuel? It's obvious, that the whole aviation would just disappear, just as the majority of any industrial field existing today. It would be a literal Stone Age.

    • @alisonholland7531
      @alisonholland7531 3 года назад +3

      Actually as I was waking up to the fact what they preach is nothing but bullshit I'd said to a sister that I couldn't wait for there to be no pollution from cars, buses, industry etc and she actually said those things would still be here, I didn't attend this year's convention on zoom, but she had, now I'm wondering if the GB mentioned that during the convention 🤔 she's an elders wife - mmmm, curiosity is getting the better of me but I'm not game to go online and watch it via the app, I don't think I'm strong enough yet to not get sucked back into that creepy organisation

  • @johnbenning8770
    @johnbenning8770 3 года назад +29

    Sounds more like hell than a paradise.

  • @IndySpirit
    @IndySpirit 3 года назад +28

    I don't think I would want to live in paradise if Steve Lett and Tony Morris are in charge.

    • @chrisuniverse5979
      @chrisuniverse5979 3 года назад +1

      In compleate agreement

    • @majafleur9646
      @majafleur9646 9 месяцев назад

      This is it...the governing body would still rule over them!!

  • @bizzyb2622
    @bizzyb2622 3 года назад +37

    @lloydevans why does God need an Army of Angels to destroy mankind in Armageddon?
    How about sending them to earth to help and assist humans to be better or how to better. I means that's another way of saving lives.

    • @wunderinwyndfeatherakaskje8872
      @wunderinwyndfeatherakaskje8872 3 года назад +5

      Well...hmmm that means tonis wet and wonderful dream of being a man slayer...be just a pfffft...🔥🧯

    • @joelpaulo2279
      @joelpaulo2279 3 года назад +3

      For the same reason that God used the Flood to DESTROY that Humanity, saving only 8 people!

    • @Ohmygatos35
      @Ohmygatos35 3 года назад +3

      Because it makes to much damn sense!

    • @jimbobaggans1564
      @jimbobaggans1564 3 года назад +1

      That would never do! There has to be genocide! Lots and lots of it! There has to be dead decaying bodies everywhere. Sounds like fun to me! My kind of place! Lol

  • @toomyconne768
    @toomyconne768 3 года назад +99

    So they went from millions now living will never die to billions now living will soon die?! 😆😅

    • @mtgradwell
      @mtgradwell 3 года назад +6

      The two statements are not incompatible. Quite the contrary: In a world of billions, if it's only millions that will never die then it follows necessarily that there are billions who *will* die.

    • @isabelli8931
      @isabelli8931 3 года назад +6

      @@mtgradwell "millions now living will never die" was a slogan jws used in the 70s because they believed the world was about to end. now they believe 99% of the world population is going to die at armageddon and they will be the only survivors

    • @mtgradwell
      @mtgradwell 3 года назад +1

      @@isabelli8931 In the '70s the world population was about 4 billion, so even if the world had ended then my comment would still have been applicable. In a world of 4 billion, if it's only millions that will never die then it follows necessarily that there are getting on for 4 billion who *will* die.

    • @toomyconne768
      @toomyconne768 3 года назад +1

      @@isabelli8931 They taught that in the 20s. In the 60s and 70s watchtower taught the world would end in 1975. Now they teach any day the world will end in Armaggedon

    • @jimbobaggans1564
      @jimbobaggans1564 3 года назад +5

      Millions Now Living Will Never Die was a book by Rutherford in the 1920's. Also talks were given on the premise. But of course, they all died.

  • @gaetanodetorrice5555
    @gaetanodetorrice5555 3 года назад +32

    I said Tony Morris is probably going to run the Archie Bunker place because he's good with liquor

  • @johnblenkey4797
    @johnblenkey4797 3 года назад +31

    Once you believe in magic then all things are possible....

    • @roberts7737
      @roberts7737 3 года назад +2

      Good point John,

    • @roberts7737
      @roberts7737 3 года назад +2

      It's all BS, almost not worth an honest discussion

  • @leahdresser2290
    @leahdresser2290 3 года назад +20

    I was just talking with my boyfriend last night about how ridiculous the JW ideas of armageddon and "paradise" are. Can't watch this yet since I'm at work but I'm looking forward to it!

  • @EfrainRiveraJunior
    @EfrainRiveraJunior 3 года назад +20

    Yes, if you believe in a creator, it’s easy to believe that he can make the Sun last forever. I have no problem with that.

    • @marvalice3455
      @marvalice3455 3 года назад +4

      Yeah, that's only any issue if you assume they wrong. Internal critiques are far more persuasive than begging the question

  • @vickysgardening6086
    @vickysgardening6086 3 года назад +22

    Okay, no marriage, no sex, no children, right? Then what is the use of being either female or male? I guess we will lose all the fun parts.

    • @ResearchThis
      @ResearchThis 3 года назад +13

      It'll just be so we know who has to do all the cooking and cleaning 😉

    • @marvalice3455
      @marvalice3455 3 года назад +5

      @@ResearchThis considering how the sisters are treated that's probably it!

    • @Ballykeith
      @Ballykeith 3 года назад +4

      And the penis becomes just a handy urination tool. That's if people urinate in the new system - and if they do, perhaps the sisters get one too.

    • @philipdalton1000s
      @philipdalton1000s 3 года назад +1

      How are we supposed to have a wee then?

    • @marvalice3455
      @marvalice3455 3 года назад

      @@philipdalton1000s we get a cloaca like a platypus!

  • @Duermeahora
    @Duermeahora 3 года назад +9

    "There is beauty in a desert" I agree. I live at the doors of the desert of Atacama. Not only it's beautiful, but also to walk into it is a really strange experience: no sound, no odour, no taste. Another planet.

  • @Shera178
    @Shera178 3 года назад +30

    I like the point you make in number 6 about having to change that person in order for them not to love or miss their loved ones. Because if that’s the case there would be no free will. And wasn’t the whole “point” of this “challenge “ that people have the free will to either follow god or not.

  • @yolantakozlowski2382
    @yolantakozlowski2382 Год назад +6

    I can't believe that I believed all those unlogical "hopes" for 10 years in my life, what a craziness 😢

  • @glorialeach7301
    @glorialeach7301 3 года назад +11

    When I was ‘IN’, I thought (of course, not out loud) that living FOREVER with some of the witnesses that I could barely stand to sit through a meeting with WAS NOT going to be paradise!!!!!! 😝🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤔🤗

  • @katew.9402
    @katew.9402 3 года назад +21

    So people will be "assigned" to live in designated places, even if that's not what they like? Heck, they'll learn to like it! Just like they'll learn to drop the gay! Paradise is starting to sound rather like a totalitarian theocracy. We always used to hear how the Earth would be restored to a paradise like Eden. In fact, the Garden of Eden was presented as the blueprint for what all of Earth was supposed to look like, if only Adam and Eve hadn't messed up. I don't recall Genesis talking much about apartment complexes in Eden.

    • @andromedaiscoming185
      @andromedaiscoming185 3 года назад

      As an ex jw, I think the implication is everybody is going to WANT to live in the way Jehovah has planned...complete 100% unity of mind and thought and desire with Jehovah. Thats why not everybody is getting in.

  • @erikarainbows4652
    @erikarainbows4652 3 года назад +15

    My parents became JW when I was 16 (fun time for me!) what really confused me was if everyone who didn’t know Jehovah from the beginning was going to be resurrected how would everyone fit on the earth?! I asked a sister that and she said well we will probably live on other planets too, but doesn’t the bible specifically say humans was created to live on earth 😂 so that doesn’t make sense.
    Also side note I have a degree in psychology and from the mental health difficulties that comes from disfellowshipping and even growing up with your friends in school but not allowed to hang out with them even though that goes against everything you want, I can’t believe a “loving god” would impose these rules.

  • @marvalice3455
    @marvalice3455 3 года назад +19

    "Assigned to a city"
    What the fuck? They think they will be able to "assign" where people live live? What happened to "you will build and have occupation"?

    • @Ballykeith
      @Ballykeith 3 года назад +2

      Yeah, sounds very Soviet.

    • @marvalice3455
      @marvalice3455 3 года назад +10

      @@Ballykeith yeah, the governing body should never have shown their faces.
      On the plus side, this will hopefully help some people realize how many wrong ideas they have.

  • @SaffronHammer
    @SaffronHammer 3 года назад +32

    Great. Paradise is being assigned where we live, even if we dislike it? How is that perfection or paradise? eye roll

    • @junejunie2284
      @junejunie2284 3 года назад +10

      Your use of "eye roll" triggered me in a good way. During one assembly an admonition was given directly to sisters not to show displeasure - even with body language - by shaking your head, crossing your arms or, god forbid, *rolling your eyes* if you disagreed with something being taught re the sisters' role(s). At that moment I knew I had to leave, and leave I did.

    • @SaffronHammer
      @SaffronHammer 3 года назад +11

      @@junejunie2284 One thing I am so happy to leave behind is the notion that disagreement with a man or the organization = disrespect. Uggg. Hard pass. Fuck patriarchy.

    • @junejunie2284
      @junejunie2284 3 года назад +8

      @@SaffronHammer they need to call it disrespect to bring the disagreement to a screeching halt. In many cases they're just not intelligent enough to debate the issue. Can't admit to that and feel superior.

    • @yvonne3903
      @yvonne3903 3 года назад

      The fact is if you disagree with a man it's considered disrespect, but the opposite is true it's disrespectful to women to gaslight them like this.

    • @SaffronHammer
      @SaffronHammer 3 года назад

      @@yvonne3903 I don't quite get what you're trying to say....

  • @aimeecastonguay497
    @aimeecastonguay497 3 года назад +11

    I love the way you describe the beliefs. When I was a kid in 75 I told my classmates they were all going to die..hence I wasn't popular. When 75 passed and the end didn't come I was confused my mother had severe MH issues so I grew up VERY confused.

    • @scottberry5266
      @scottberry5266 2 года назад +5

      A lot of our mothers had or still have mental health issues. I know my mom has issues. You can’t talk to her about anything that she doesn’t try to bring up the Bible or Armageddon. She’s 81 now and I’ve heard about this for 61 years. 1975 was the breaking point for me.

  • @carasmith549
    @carasmith549 3 года назад +41

    So everyone who has ever lived is to be resurrected and given chance to turn into a JW ? So, you could be sat at your paradise picnic table, eating your grapes and sat next to Jack the Ripper, or Dr Crippen, or even Hitler? What fun!

    • @pingpong5877
      @pingpong5877 3 года назад +7

      It'd be rad to just sit at a table and have a conversation with my great ancestor, Genghis Khan.

    • @millicentgyimah3270
      @millicentgyimah3270 3 года назад +2

      Hahaaaaaaaa🤣🤣🤣

    • @connieanderson591
      @connieanderson591 3 года назад +1

      Exactly

    • @MegaAlvarojavier
      @MegaAlvarojavier 3 года назад

      The gay guy has a hundred years to change ok lots of them will live as gay after 99 years they change their lifestyle and get everlasting life

    • @yvonne3903
      @yvonne3903 3 года назад

      @@pingpong5877 be careful he doesn't have you for breakfast

  • @lesliethompson5218
    @lesliethompson5218 3 года назад +24

    The governing body is all over the place with their barking. I'm concern about their mental status...

    • @maryannlockwood7806
      @maryannlockwood7806 3 года назад +4

      Which then makes us all concerned about the safety of the people that they control.🤭

    • @waltersamuel2077
      @waltersamuel2077 2 года назад

      Oh Leslie why?😂😂😂😂😂 am weak.

  • @rosiej.1473
    @rosiej.1473 3 года назад +15

    #9, you know it will be elders and pioneers will be in the cabins on an acre of land and the rest will be piled into the cities.

  • @glorialeach7301
    @glorialeach7301 3 года назад +9

    I think from a child on I had doubts but my whole family were JW’s so I always kept quiet and tried to be ‘a good JW’ but could never measure up. I love this channel, it has helped me KNOW that my doubts were correct. 👍👏👏👏🥰

  • @stevemann6851
    @stevemann6851 3 года назад +5

    when my mother died, my father was heartbroken twice.
    the loosing of her at death and then the realisation they would not be together in paradise after the resurection

  • @kimcox66030
    @kimcox66030 3 года назад +13

    I don't know why the witnesses want to live in a world like that anyways. Living forever under the governing body's rule sounds awful. I'd rather be dead.

    • @milham76
      @milham76 3 года назад

      Totally agree.

  • @hindsightpov4218
    @hindsightpov4218 3 года назад +7

    As a JW kid, I was told if there wasn’t enough room for all the humans on Earth, they would be transported to terra-formed planets in outer space. That’s why there were so many planets in an infinite universe.
    I don’t know if that’s an official JW teaching (wouldn’t be surprised if it wasn’t), but as a JW kid, it sort of made sense. I think they were trying to appeal to me as a Star Trek fan.🤷‍♂️

    • @morningglory9288
      @morningglory9288 3 года назад

      Some JW's have a highly vivid and abnormal imagination. Where in the world do they dream up all that craziness? Nothing they say is scriptual, it all comes from out the top of their heads....smh.

  • @katew.9402
    @katew.9402 3 года назад +5

    The scripture from Isaiah reminded me of an old joke: Paradise is where the cooks are French, the car mechanics are German, the police are British, the lovers are Italian, and it's all organised by the Swiss. Hell is where the cooks are British, the car mechanics are French, the police are German, the lovers are Swiss, and it's all organised by the Italians.

    • @Ohmygatos35
      @Ohmygatos35 3 года назад

      I love this comment. But since I’m American I guess I won’t be in paradise at all. Dang 🙁

    • @blackalien6873
      @blackalien6873 3 года назад +1

      @@Ohmygatos35 It seems as if it will be a European affair. No sushi!

    • @katew.9402
      @katew.9402 3 года назад

      @@blackalien6873 'fraid so! I'm actually German, and I'm a decent cook, but would make a terrible car mechanic, honestly. Don't fancy the policework, either. Maybe Americans could provide the entertainment business in paradise, and in hell... also the entertainment business?

  • @EfrainRiveraJunior
    @EfrainRiveraJunior 3 года назад +20

    I remember thinking that moving to Mars would be an option to fix over population.

    • @wunderinwyndfeatherakaskje8872
      @wunderinwyndfeatherakaskje8872 3 года назад +5

      Efrain...Has not Lady Gaga already booked her flight? 🤔😉

    • @EfrainRiveraJunior
      @EfrainRiveraJunior 3 года назад +2

      @@wunderinwyndfeatherakaskje8872 - I think a few celebrities booked theirs as well. LOL!

    • @albertcastel8382
      @albertcastel8382 3 года назад +4

      Many of my former elders also said and believe that!!

    • @hindsightpov4218
      @hindsightpov4218 3 года назад +3

      @@albertcastel8382
      I was also told that as a kid!

    • @adrianneavenicci
      @adrianneavenicci 3 года назад +4

      I had this vague idea humans would expand into the universe but how is that going to happen if you’ve killed off all the scientists and there’s no advanced technology?

  • @luiszapata6864
    @luiszapata6864 3 года назад +11

    The only time I tried these topics with JW's their answer (and final solution/conclution) was: "Jehova will provide, we don't need to worry about those things"... really...??? There's no way to try to reason with them... it's literally fighting against the wind 😪

  • @minabello8006
    @minabello8006 3 года назад +4

    My heart almost stopped! Paradise mentioned only 4X and not under the same context as what we were taught?
    Wow! So true if you know what you're looking for in the WT library the veil comes off 🤦
    Thanks so much Lloyd!😌

  • @dougobrien4877
    @dougobrien4877 3 года назад +30

    All machined lumber and such comes from the Morlochs who live underground. Lol.

  • @tuffstuff9809
    @tuffstuff9809 3 года назад +14

    So?...We don’t believe in reincarnation, but technically that’s what is being taught by JW beliefs, just with a different name.
    New bodies with memories of previous life🤔
    Not only that, but they will appear out of thin air...The more you THINK about it the less sense it makes.

  • @luna-p
    @luna-p 3 года назад +6

    When I was a kid, I straight up assumed paradise would basically be magic-made. None of it would work if it was based on anything resembling reality as we know it. My boss's father seems to think he'll be keeping the exact same house he's living in now, so he refuses to leave it to anyone when he dies. That had me cracking up laughing.

  • @kelleydennis2817
    @kelleydennis2817 3 года назад +7

    Such a good topic. I have now listened to this twice. This was a problematic issue when I studied. They couldn't answer questions . They have no clue and make up the rules as they go. Nothing based on Bible facts.

  • @dianeb411
    @dianeb411 3 года назад +5

    The sh_t gets deeper and deeper. I used to ask about this when I was growing up and was told "we don't exactly know, but Jehovah will take care of it all!" Sounds like a fairy tale to me !!!
    Thanks Lloyd for another great video!! di

  • @themaiker_
    @themaiker_ 3 года назад +8

    I asked my mom once what would happen if a dead person resurrected and saw that their spouse re-married. She said that she didn’t know but would ask a “more spiritual” sister. What the sister basically said was that, jehova would make sure that the person resurrected would lose the love for their spouse and basically marry another person in paradise.
    I am sure the sister pulled that out of no where because it didn’t make any sense to me lol

  • @visualcoco
    @visualcoco 3 года назад +9

    "Jahovah's design is beautiful and the way the world works is truly divine"
    "Whales will stop eating plankton"

  • @dstiffy1
    @dstiffy1 3 года назад +4

    loved this video! Every time I asked those questions I was told by my mother and elders that Jehovah is see to it we are happy!! and You will be perfect and those questions won't matter.

  • @uncledonel1742
    @uncledonel1742 3 года назад +10

    I don't know if you mentioned this on your list but according to an old JW couple I used to study bible with, sinful parents who have their babies during Armageddon or are raising a small child at the time of the events will die along with their innocent children, because apparently it's the parents' fault for not teaching the kids the "right path". The children will face the consuquences of their parents and not get any sort of redemption from God. They can't have a chance of getting adopted or anything. I used to be horrified as a kid.

  • @jnotesswagg88
    @jnotesswagg88 3 года назад +4

    Thankyou man. As someone who was never baptized and fear mongered half my life thanks for these videos and topics. There were times I felt guilty for leaving, but nah man this all makes sense

  • @mumsyoutube1305
    @mumsyoutube1305 3 года назад +6

    My nightmares used to be filled with everything you have just spoken about... The idea of paradise is actually extremely traumatizing!

    • @SonicGamerGirl2006
      @SonicGamerGirl2006 Год назад +1

      Oh, geez...
      I'm very sorry you had to go through that. 😥💔
      ...And I've ALWAYS believed that the promise of paradise and resurrection just sounds WAY too good to be true, and this video proves my point. 😬🙃

  • @catmeow333
    @catmeow333 3 года назад +16

    How did Steven Lett come up with the arbitrary 100-year gay limit ?

    • @boboak9168
      @boboak9168 3 года назад +5

      In support of these ridiculous assertions, and in typical Governing Body fashion, Lett said he would quote Isaiah 65:12 but proceeded to read just a small part 65:20 instead. As usual he drew a very long bow and treated as literal and definitive that which is symbolic.
      The GB says they are not spirit inspired? Damn straight! It seems their clueless pattern of botched attempts to interpret scripture from the last one hundred plus years will continue until this disaster of a religion meets it’s natural end.

    • @rodywithers3536
      @rodywithers3536 3 года назад +3

      I just thought that’s because it would take him that long to overcome gay urges. 😌

  • @kirstenornelas881
    @kirstenornelas881 3 года назад +12

    I always found it interesting as a child that the animals would become herbivores, except the birds? I guess they will just turn herbivore after they eat all the dead people...

    • @darinblomquist422
      @darinblomquist422 3 года назад +2

      Some birds only eat seeds and fruit. Poor birds😭

  • @callsignmaverick391
    @callsignmaverick391 3 года назад +13

    I am looking forward to watching this. Hopefully school will be over when it is on.

  • @kirstenornelas881
    @kirstenornelas881 3 года назад +12

    I used to get so frustrated with the way some scriptures were literal but even a few scriptures later oh no that's figurative. Revelation is the worst for this within the organization.

  • @gloriaprater2753
    @gloriaprater2753 3 года назад +2

    I spoke to a practicing JW last year during Covid and I raised this claim that JW's say they will be the only people to live in this paradise earth and she said "that isn't true" and I said "Oh you mean the non-JW's will consist of people who are developmentally delayed" and she said well I hope so, and I continued by saying "the fact of the matter is you and other JW's believe that EVERYONE will stand in Judgement and in the end all must accept Jehovah or die the 2nd death of Gehenna (Gehenna meaning "Hurled into the lake of Gehenna a permanent death). She admitted this was correct. This little so called fact of the the JW ORG should be the first inclination that they tell fables such as this one to suit their agenda which is to entice people so they can brainwash them and ultimately get them to serve the CORPORATION and work for FREE which results in them making BILLIONS. Lloyd it is .........well............a bit embarrassing to know that we could be brainwashed to the point of pushing these logical thoughts/questions from our minds as soon as they entered. I am deeply saddened over my family members who are still involved with the Org and being used. I'd like to see you do a show on the good, bad and indifferent that comes out of being in the org.

  • @SaffronHammer
    @SaffronHammer 3 года назад +7

    It was specifically taught there were no cities in the New System. Cities were reminiscent of Babel and all the evils closely-housed living.

    • @marilynnejoan8574
      @marilynnejoan8574 3 года назад +3

      I was taught that too. We must have been indoctrinated in the same era

  • @leicafox4403
    @leicafox4403 3 года назад +10

    OMFG Stephen Lett as SLASH!!! hahahahaah.... I can't breathe.....lmaoooo

  • @lxcruze
    @lxcruze 3 года назад +4

    Everything you mentioned in this video were questions i have asked myself over the years with alot of my family being jws and telling this story over and over. The fact that much info is shrugged off and not mentioned in the bible was a big red flag for me. Thankyou for freeing people by real critical thought. So many are going through moral dilemas while just trying to lives and be good to one another all because other people make up rules out of thin air for people to live by that are not furthering humanity into any form of unity but hindering. It is sad how many families are broken up behind this.

  • @EfrainRiveraJunior
    @EfrainRiveraJunior 3 года назад +9

    A few J-Dubs that I knew hurried to get married because of the teaching that if they died before Armageddon, they couldn’t marry.

    • @EfrainRiveraJunior
      @EfrainRiveraJunior 3 года назад

      @Vida Pimo - Eso es inventado por Kevin McFree, creador de vídeos de Lego exTJ. En esos vídeos él llama al pueblito Dubtown y a los Testigos J-Dubs. "Dubs" también significa "tontos."

    • @theother9941
      @theother9941 3 года назад +1

      @Vida Pimo J-Dub= J-double U (JW), y el nombre "borg" es una contraccion de "cyborg". Son personajes ficticios del universo de Star Trek

    • @user-qu5im1kx2v
      @user-qu5im1kx2v 3 года назад +1

      wait what? really?

    • @EfrainRiveraJunior
      @EfrainRiveraJunior 3 года назад

      @@user-qu5im1kx2v - Oh, yes.

  • @katahdin5300
    @katahdin5300 2 года назад +2

    Can you imagine dying during Armageddon then getting resurrected in a new body and having to pick up and bury your old body that is still laying around? Then getting told...Nope. And dying again? Wow.

  • @pitbullruss5636
    @pitbullruss5636 3 года назад +30

    The bodies will be used as fertilizer for their fruits and veggies

    • @b.w.7588
      @b.w.7588 3 года назад +3

      Russ The PitBull
      ,
      Oh damn. You know, Jehovah could've roasted the Armageddon victims' bodies like hot dogs on a grill by having their bodies split open, burned black to a crisp and everything. Then the Armageddon survivors could eat meat one last time before becoming vegetarians, damn it!

    • @erenjeager4369
      @erenjeager4369 3 года назад

      Carnivals....omg...

    • @pitbullruss5636
      @pitbullruss5636 3 года назад

      @@erenjeager4369 wow

    • @EnzotheOutlawBiker15
      @EnzotheOutlawBiker15 3 года назад +1

      Why not? We're all made from dust anyway right?

  • @AM.I.INACOMA
    @AM.I.INACOMA 3 года назад +13

    Oh man, I knew this was going to be good...major holes at every turn. Here’s my question: If resurrected ones are basically sexless genderless beings that can’t marry...why would gay resurrected ones still be gay? I thought the whole idea was that they wouldn’t even have the capacity for that type of relationship having already been dead? Am I missing something? lol

    • @milham76
      @milham76 3 года назад +2

      Wow...never thought of that one but it's a REALLY valid point.

  • @frozentspark2105
    @frozentspark2105 3 года назад +19

    No cellphones, internet or Bon Jovi? No thanks

    • @maryannlockwood7806
      @maryannlockwood7806 3 года назад +4

      It’s funny that you say that because I remember growing up thinking I won’t be able to watch the movies that I enjoy or listen to any of the music that I love. And that really made me sad.😔

    • @GD-oz7uy
      @GD-oz7uy 3 года назад +4

      Zack Freeze, you need a shepherding call. I’ll talk to your elders.

    • @jfb919
      @jfb919 3 года назад +3

      Can you imagine all the proper rock and metal bands members being resurrected only to make "Christian rock". Ugh...

    • @milham76
      @milham76 3 года назад

      But he died, so he'll be back....I won't hold my breath...

    • @longbeachwoman
      @longbeachwoman 3 года назад

      🤣🤣🤣

  • @BabyShenanigans
    @BabyShenanigans 3 года назад +6

    "Some are going to have a rougher time than others." That just sounds like NOW but with more steps.

  • @rickyny78
    @rickyny78 2 года назад +3

    I know who gets to operate the crane for 12 hrs a day in Paradise, the publisher that only preached 10 hrs a month. While the pioneer that gave 90 hrs a month gets the Villa on a beach. LOL

  • @nayabkhurshid4089
    @nayabkhurshid4089 3 года назад +11

    maybe the idea is to have the gays for 100 years to build the cities and infrastructure of the paradise?

    • @hindsightpov4218
      @hindsightpov4218 3 года назад +8

      Or the gay people are allowed to stay gay for 100 years so during that time they can make all the stylish clothes that Jehovah’s Witnesses will wear for the rest of eternity. It is supposed to be a blissful paradise, after all.
      When the 100 years are over and they’re no longer gay, there won’t be any fun fashion anymore.

  • @ronaldvanleeuwen8337
    @ronaldvanleeuwen8337 3 года назад +5

    I remember my father telling me that in the war lions were fed hay, and with proud in his eyes he said that they never looked better. I was 6 and knew then that it was not for me....

  • @jfb919
    @jfb919 3 года назад +10

    There's also plants and animals that have adapted to live in places that seem "useless" to humans. So absence of deserts isn't necessarily a good thing.

    • @toweypat
      @toweypat 3 года назад +2

      Yeah, really! "Sorry, Mister Gila Lizard, you'll have to move into the forest, if you can find room."

  • @mopmonmoonpie
    @mopmonmoonpie 3 года назад +11

    Wow. 80 likes before its even started,(including mine) this is going to be one next level awesome video!

  • @maryannlockwood7806
    @maryannlockwood7806 3 года назад +9

    The perfect way to spend a snow day in New Jersey!☺️❄️

    • @wunderinwyndfeatherakaskje8872
      @wunderinwyndfeatherakaskje8872 3 года назад +3

      A Frickin Frosty Day...-39*c in Manitoba Canada...🥶👍🏽☺️

    • @maryannlockwood7806
      @maryannlockwood7806 3 года назад +1

      @@wunderinwyndfeatherakaskje8872 according to the weatherman this week will be lucky to see anything above 30°!🥶

  • @patriciaborg7496
    @patriciaborg7496 2 года назад +2

    I clearly remember my mom saying family pets will not be resurrected but don't worry Jehovah will wipe away sad feelings
    And we'll have so many other amazing blessings we won't even think about my worldly cats

  • @JacqAmman
    @JacqAmman 2 года назад +2

    I'm in Jordan now, so true... the variety of the earth is gorgeous. Would hate a world without this beautiful desert ecosystem.

  • @EfrainRiveraJunior
    @EfrainRiveraJunior 3 года назад +14

    I remember reading an article that said that the birds would eat the dead bodies, and Armageddon survivors would bury the bones.

    • @wunderinwyndfeatherakaskje8872
      @wunderinwyndfeatherakaskje8872 3 года назад +4

      As a child...I never really looked forward to that....for some strange reason...🤔🤨

    • @barrysumner3024
      @barrysumner3024 3 года назад

      It's in the Bible. xJW

    • @cygnustsp
      @cygnustsp 3 года назад +1

      I remember a book study conductor telling us it'll be line carrion birds that pick at roadkill and after several days it's all finally gone. I think a couple of people wanted to vomit.

    • @zuglymonster
      @zuglymonster 3 года назад +4

      How are all animals going to be herbivores yet birds are going to eat the dead 🤔

    • @cygnustsp
      @cygnustsp 3 года назад +1

      @@zuglymonster now THAT'S a great question lol

  • @greeky100
    @greeky100 3 года назад +4

    No more living in fear... I choose love over fear .

    • @carmenl163
      @carmenl163 3 года назад +3

      That's beautiful, because that means you're already living in paradise!

  • @sftgp
    @sftgp 2 года назад +2

    i could never accept the concept that JWs always talk about a perfect earth but don’t do anything to honor and respect nature today 🥺🙄 blessed be!!

  • @BigDrill39
    @BigDrill39 3 года назад +7

    Great video, well thought out and i like that you actually use logic and critical thinking to reach your conclusions.