I (as a female carpenter) got refused at a lot of interviews for internships. And I live in the Netherlands and usually we are very progressive. 2 of them even admitted that it was because i am a woman one said "they didn't want a woman to mess up the realm amongst the male workers". 🤮 When I told my school at the time they told them that they won't be sending any interns to them anymore. I am now self employed for 3 years and I am doing well at my job💪
Hell yeah, good for you! It sucks that things didn’t work out in the industry, but it’s great to see you managed to make it work for yourself on your own terms ☺️👍
How strange it seems that you are complaining about the path that set you free and liberated you, so that you could be your own boss. Men want their own time and space free from female energy, just as women want their own time and space free from male energies. It is natural for each race to want to be, at times, fully immersed in their own energy fields. When someone does not want you in their group do not take it as a strike against you, but rather an opportunity to understand that we all already belong to a group and that is plenty: humanity. Do not be greedy to want things, just make the things happen which you can make.
@Firstimefooder what do you mean "female and male energy"? Also, please don't put words in my mouth. You don't know me. I don't want time separated from men. I still have a lot of male colleagues, so I don't understand this. I don't understand why you have to support this sexism.
@@studiobuckeycolours if one does not understand the difference between the two, then one cannot understand anything put forward from here out. Words where not put into your mouth, you wrote something, it was interpreted and put back out there. So if you do not agree with it, that is fine, but when it brings up such emotions something in my words has hit a nerve and a recess of the brain that wants more. I never said that I know you, that there is putting words in someone’s mouth. Furthermore we all take time from the direct opposite energies, that is what allows for contemplation and growth..but I digress, for if you do not understand the energy flows then one most likely shall miss the message that lies here in my words. All love, no hast nor hate here; just open that one eye that is asking to be opened.
@@professorfoxtrot They also seem to very inconsistent in their takes on what that translation means lol, the Marxist bit. "gubbermint does stuff!" hours lol.
She says words don’t lead to violence as if politicians and influencers hating queer people doesn’t directly lead to other people committing violence against us
Two cisgender people were recently murdered because their attackers thought they were trans. Words cause violence and it's bananas that some people can't connect the dots.
Or words like hers didn't lead to that supermarket shooting where a white conservatives shot and killed black people in a black neighborhood because conservative propaganda told him "the left" was trying to replace white people. Words insight violence and these conservatives know that.
They tried to have " there are no pronouns in the constitution " ( because everyone is American ofcores ) but they stopped when someone mentioned the words " *we* the people"
@@rachelppython bold of you to assume that anyone like this would dare to pay attention to anything factual, or god forbid, literally just google it before talking about it.
Gothix is that parent who tells you it’s ok that you’re queer and then immediately tells to tone down the queer energy. Edit: I wasn’t expecting this level of response so thank you for engaging. Also, love to everyone going through a difficult time with support and affirmation. You are never alone.
Jessica the Patron here✌️ Thank you so much for making this video! I'm a trans girl and an atheist so her videos really frustrate me since they boil down to "Trans people don't exist, but my god does". Very frustrating, but watching one of my favorite RUclipsrs respond to her video here was so cathartic to watch cause you're saying everything I would've said. Really hope you respond to her Jesus video cause that sounds like a blast and a half to watch. Thanks again!!! 🫶
I’m very spiritual (not religious but I do have my own god stuff) and I HATE that people can say that their god does things for a reason but can’t fathom their god making a trans person???
@@Astrolionking same here, my family are pagan, and we worship leshy (or as mum calls him, the green man). Technically he's a god of nature. I don't think of him as a god, just a homie who helps out with our rituals sometimes. Other people will do things that displease leshy, but that's life. People do things that make me upset too. So what? I do things that make leshy upset sometimes (although I do try to remedy it when I do something severe), I know leshy wouldn't approve of the fossil fuel used to charge my phone, or the plastic bracelets I wear, etc. He might not have made them, and they might annoy him sometimes, but at the end of the day he accepts that they exist, and we as his followers also accept that ✨that's life✨ and it's weird to me that Christians, Muslims, and other followers of other organised religions can't come to that understanding
Thank you so much for the vid recommendation. As the parent of a trans boy I had all the same responses myself and it's good to know we can come together here in a supportive community.
I always love how conversatives are SO AGAINST collectivism yet only think about society through their lens almost like they are really just against the idea of having to be considerate of others
My sister studied psychology and she told me that things like rejection in social circumstances or just being emotionally hurt activates the same part of the brain as being physically hurt. So yes it does hurt. That woman needs to think before she speaks
"They have to abandon their values just to get a paycheck" THIS IS AN HILARIOUS LINE. She's acting like that's a new thing. As if that' NOT the essence of capitalism.
This is an especially delicious irony, given that most conservative pundits (like HER) are in reality shameless grifters that don't even believe the things they say and are, in fact...doing it for fat stacks of cash. Like how Dave Rubin and Jimmy Dore used to both work for TYT and had really proggressive rhetoric some years ago and now they've turned 180 degrees and munching on the Republicans' footwear. Then there's...(heavy sigh) Candace Owens, the women who went from victim of a h@te-crime, suing her aggressors to...not just saying that systemic r@cism doesn't exist, but also that "Hitler would have been ok, if he had just stuck to Germany instead of invading other countries" and running defense for the CSA...
Her argument about words not equaling violence is just telling me she's a "tough-love" person that thinks everybody can just be as tough and should just suck it up.
I got huge pick me vibes. And I hate using that term, but as soon as she said that about the N word...yeah no!. "I'm not like those other black people, I won't cry if you call me names, discriminate against me, pay me less or steal *my* rights." Oh but heaven forbid anyone "uses pronouns" and these people turn into the biggest snowflakes. They've become so anti-trans that they're now scared of futzing pronouns! It's to the point they deny they're even in the bible because they're also too stupid to know what a pronoun is, apparently. 🤦 fml. And they try to school _us_ on grammar over they/them and their obsession with it not being used in the singular. If I have an aneurysm it'll be because of people like that.
Which is a complete dissociative point from the reality of human experience. Some people are neurodivergent, and experience sensitivity and emotional terror to verbal abuse. The words people say to each other can cut deep into our psyche, and create self fulfilling prophecies, leading to lifetimes of repeating the behaviours related to the "undesirable" traits (mostly just misunderstood as sins people "choose" to commit, instead of rather a manifestation of mental illness or disorder that require medical attention*) others so cruelly bellowed at them. The type who say "suck it up" do not seem to realise they are living a self fulfilling prophecy as well. "If I just "get over it", it won't affect me," cue mental breakdown at mid life, known famously as the midlife crisis which usually entails them proclaiming "no one understands me!". "I was spanked as a child, and I turned out fine," is usually a person who uses aggression or intimidation to get what they want, hurting more people in the process. It is a complete, self inflicted lack of empathy, stemming from childhood programming, and they'll keep inflicting this mindset on themselves and others until, well, we figure out what will allow them to see a different perspective; when they learn cognitive empathy. *If one must rest with a cold or take medication for a flu, or wear a cast with a broken bone, then why do we have to just "suck it up and carry on" when we're mentally ill, or experiencing a debilitating mental disorder? Treatment such as "get over it" has proven not to work for everyone, but therapy, growing a sense of self compassion and medication certainly has. We need change.
@@audreydoyle5268 If you feel the need to inflict pain on others just because it happened to you means that you did not, in fact, turn out fine. That's always the ironic thing about these people.
She's probably the type of person who'd say "I was spanked as a child and I turned out fine!" completely oblivious to the ways in which that corporal punishment warped their psyche.
She did a video on “transphobia isn’t real” and as a trans woman, I don’t have the strength to watch it. If you wanna cover that one or any more of her videos, I love everything you’ve spoken on in this one. Thank you for defending us
If someone thinks that transphobia isn't real their privilege is showing a LOT. I am a trans guy and I am living as me for only a bit over two years and I have experienced a lot of transphobia. And it is a lot worse for trans women especially if they are poc.
@@robinpotato9886 I can empathize as I live in a rural town. I’m also two years into my transition and experience transphobia every day. I get made fun of all the time and family refuses to accept me. It’s very real and yes, if someone doesn’t think it’s real- they have immense privilege. “Privilege is invisible to those who have it.” 💔
it's like the numbers of people who call themselves "punk" or lament that they can't "dress punk" anymore because it will have them confused with the left/'woke mob'. Like dude... you're not punk if you stand with oppression, that's literally the antithesis of the punk movement.
huh? what's with the gatekeeping? it's not like being goth is some social justice/human rights movement that comes in contradiction with conservatism, it's just a style at best, chill
@@_Amarin lol not gatekeeping. if people say they are conservative and goth i wont stop them. but i will bitch about it on the internet bc i personally think its silly. although its worth mentioning that goth is a music based subculture, not a style. gothic is the style. :)
@@_Amarin ''It's just a style'' No, it ain't. Goth is more than just a fashion trend or a style of dress. It is a multifaceted subculture with its own music, literature, art, philosophy, and social values. It emerged in the late 1970s as a subculture that embraced elements of post-punk, gothic literature, and horror aesthetics. But the aesthetics are a byproduct where music is the core. By reducing Goth solely to its fashion aspect and aesthetics, it overlooks the cultural, artistic, and intellectual depth that defines the subculture. The music is core to it all because the music made it. We really gotta knock it off with these attempts at dilluting and commodifying a culture with rich history and then acting surprised when members of said culture take offense to that. Would a Metalhead be a gatekeeper if they suggested that being a Metalhead means listening to Metal? Come on, of course not. Goths are asking for the bare basics. If they're gatekeeping they're handing out the key to anyone who actually genuinely cares about it. EDIT: In hindsight though. Think you're being sarcastic. If that's the case well I stand by what I say but not necessarily towards you haha.
"Words hurt"... Absolutely!!! My Dad was verbally and emotionally abusive as I was growing up... I'm in my 50's and TO THIS DAY when it comes up I still can feel the trauma from when I was a small child!
Understandable. I get what you've gone through, to a lesser degree. I was yelled at to my face, by my dad, that I was selfish for turning the TV volume down. I had felt like it was too loud, as I'm autistic and has excellent hearing, and can be overwhelmed. I didn't want to have anxiety. But my dad has damaged ears. To this day I struggle with feelings of worthlessness and being a horrible person. I feel selfish for just wanting love. Even now I believe I don't deserve romance.
@@iclynnx Idk you but I’m sure you’re a much more beautiful person than you think you are, and you are absolutely deserving of love and romance. I would focus on getting in the right headspace first, but you are so deserving of love
@@joelleash8873 Thank you. I'm one of the lucky ones who has been able to find people that treat me well, and in turn, I can work on myself and do good things too. I've even found romance; I've been dating someone for a few months now. I hope you're doing great, too! I appreciate the kind reply, even after one year.
@@GothicRose. most of the music is very "tear down the patriarchy" and very political; also it is strongly associated with many political movements which also are based on non-comformity.
As a Asexual, Black and less than 15 percent Cherokee native who dreams of being a film director, I can tell you that the film industry is not only the most competitive field but the most male dominant. To answer that woman’s question, yes alot of us would love to do films but we are either seen as a raging feminist or just easily passed up because we don't fit their ideal person. Plus, I'm pretty sure the stories we want to tell, the public (I mean toxic males) will think it's a full on feminist film and is about women empowerment because they only see one man (which is so funny since they don't complain about that with male lead casting) or they won't like what they heard. Funny enough, I had a man tell me that basically action films are made for men in general lol
So true. Every time marvel makes a movie lately with a lot of women (like the recent black panther movie) my dad is complaining about how they are trying to make everything about “girl power” and that it’s annoying. And that movie still had plenty of men in it, it just happened to have a predominantly female main cast.
It’s so dumb that just making a movie about women’s experiences instead of men’s is seen as a ‘raging feminist’ film when it’s just our lives!! (tho I’d love me some raging feminist movies)
@@mokaakashiya9318 ugh that’s so annoying!! I thought Wakanda Forever’s female cast was awesome cos it just kinda naturally happened - especially as the sequel was originally gonna be a father-son story!
I feel you there. I'm disabled and am actor, we sadly make up less then 2% of all roles, even when a character is described as disabled (usually an abled body person is cast to play them) and about 1% of directors. Hollywood and Broadway really do a terrible job of representing up. Most of us get put into Villian or Inspiration Porn roles instead of just being people.
i’m a non binary, queer, and disabled editor/cinematographer and i completely agree that our industry is horrible, rife with any ism and phobia you could ever imagine. we could be better than any cishet white man, but STILL need to work 12 times harder than that just to get a crumb of recognition. i’ve had so many people tell me that they didn’t expect me to “be as good” as i am, which is literally so insulting i can’t begin to verbalize it. never give up in your fight for a spot in the industry, your voice is valuable and needed!! and if you ever need a dp/video editor i got you;)
Can we talk about how literally everyone is aware that intersex people exist, they just don't care about them for they are not relevant to any discussion since trans and intersex people are not the same.
Just because she's alright with letting other people disrespect her doesn't mean the rest of us have to put up with it. I don't get what's so difficult to understand about this concept.
Her googling black actors and saying Hollywood is perfectly diverse is the funniest part of this entire video tbh. Made me cackle. Literally can't take anything else she says even slightly seriously- This HAS to be extreme satire 😆
All of the arguments that her a lot of similar people make are so fundamentally flawed that it's hard to take them seriously. How the hell does that prove anything? Even if that was somehow any form of evidence, that only covers black people and black people only, no other marginalised groups.
It was barely a year ago that "true fans"(especially those from the States) were throwing a hissy-fit that Idris Elba and Henry Goulding were on the list of possible British actors considered to be recast as James Bond. But sure, we've solved r@cism in cinema, according to Gothix... 😂😂😂
There have always been right wing people who are attracted to the aesthetic without looking any deeper than that. to illustrate, the 1981 song 'Nazi punks fuck off' by the Dead Kennedys.
I dont get it… not one bit. Ive seen some punk trumpers in the past and i was just dumbfounded…. Like punk in particularly like i think a lot of these people dont realize with the different alternative subcultures its often not just a way of dress its a way of life, a way of thinking, a value system, etc etc… the only thing i can think is that they just like the aesthetics of it. But with punk what makes it extra stupid is of all the subcultures punk is probably the most inherently political and its not at all aligned with conservatism in any way. Its actually quite antithetical to conservatism.
It's actually kind of pathetic; like the "Cool Girl" mindset, except a Black person who wants to look "cool and chill" to conservatives. Goddamn, have some self-respect!
“acknowledging that poc, lgbt, and religious minorities exist is trying to push a political agenda” is the most batshit crazy thing i’ve ever heard in my life
I don't understand how you can think that you are goth in anyway and still have conservative values. Our whole history is against that. I'm not much of a gatekeeper, but I damn sure gonna gatekeep in this case
At this point, just call her a poser. Subcultures need to be more unfriendly to bigots and exclude people with exclusionary views, so it all balances out in the end. She's simply a fraud.
A few years ago, the hospital unit I was working in had a mandatory training on LGBTQ+ inclusion. Most people came out of it saying how great it was and they were glad to have learned things. By coincidence, just a few weeks later we had a patient who was trans. To my knowledge, nobody misgendered or deadnamed that patient, or brought up gender or genitals when they weren't relevant. In many cases, this was definitely due to what they had learned in that training. I really think that most people want to respect others, they just sometimes need to be taught how. That is the purpose of those DEI courses that she scoffs at. To teach respect.
I am truly grateful to have found the company/job that I am at currently, because the community and environment of the office is so incredibly willing to learn. We do a lot of DEI courses via Zoom and the amount of active input from my colleagues is wonderful. This was my first job after coming out as transmasc NB, and they have been wonderful; I have been able to speak on my experiences as a trans person as well as with ADHD/being neurodivergent. Forever grateful for these courses and the people who take them to heart.
I hate when conservatives call inclusion a "tactic" a tactic for what, like just making a safe work environment for minorities is just a nice thing to do and the right thing to do.
A PoIlTiCaL aGeNdA like ok. List for me what the agenda is, I'm waiting to hear all about the big scary equal rights and socioeconomic stability we want to inflict on your kids.
@@Fuffydud because it doesn't fit the nuclear family mold, which they were the ones who made impossible anyway. They go on about how LGBT+ individuals and families are ruining society, and ruining the nuclear family, because it doesn't follow the outdated "blueprint" to all facets of society. The inflation of the economy, the overworking/underpayment of diverse employees, the destruction of natural habitats to further create human civil and industrial growth, are the reasons the nuclear family can no longer thrive (never would anyway, the way they wish it to be, because the nuclear family is a dysfunctional family model built on a foundation of rigid expectation, rather than adaptable compassion). And with the alteration of restrictive policies to ensure the safety of women (changes to divorce laws), marriage equality (so that queer people can express love the same way heteros do), disability equity (no one left behind, we have worth), it's no wonder the nuclear family doesn't work anymore, because it never did. It worked for cis, white, het men from the middle and elite classes, and since they're still largely in "power", they perceive this "agenda" for equality as a seemingly inevitable breakdown of their sandcastles. The waves do not care for the precarious structures built by greedy, sinful, self righteous men. (They wrote the rules, but rules are made to be broken, when they do not function best for **everyone to thrive** ). The old ways of society never worked for everyone, so those who were born with a silver spoon believe that if we had total equity, therefore equality, then that spoon would be ripped from the mouths of their children. They believe equity will not work, because they do not believe everyone deserves an equitable distribution of creature comforts and necessities. Hence, hording of wealth, profit margins widening, manipulation of the markets to create for themselves monopsonies. It is all a vie for control to ensure the status quo. They conflate greed and hard, largely unnecessary work (Elon is *somewhat* the exception, he could *potentially* be reasoned with, it may be a long shot though) with creating opportunities for their offspring, and cannot see how that same love for their children ought to be extended to every child. Because, circling back, they believe the nuclear family works best for children. Therefore cannot seem to fathom how that simply is not the truth of it, as they believe if everyone lived in a nuclear family, all children would be provided for. They seem to completely ignore human divergence is natural regardless of strict conformity, because divergence occurs everywhere in nature. Without it, we'd never survive; without changes in our DNA and evolving biological (and medical) resistance to disease and disaster, we'd die out. Homosexual people exist for orphaned and abandoned children so that other families aren't overburdened. Trans people exist because of maternal trauma inflicting hormonal fluctuations in utero. Disabled people exist because life and biology can be cruel. By creating safe, equitable work environments, they believe there will be a complete dissolution of the economy and nuclear family, rather than considering perhaps the current formation of the economy and society doesn't work for every person potentially capable of providing worth to humanity. Imagine how far we'd go as a species if everyone who has genius were provided opportunities beyond the separating spheres the elites have managed for so long. If kindhearted, good-natured, compassionate, intelligent people such as myself were given influence and control. It does a total disservice to humanity to barricade necessities and opportunities out of an unfounded fear of societal collapse. Society is already collapsing under the current model!!! A single billionaire has the power to end world hunger, however they cry "logistics!". The council of world governments have the power to end world conflict, inspire cooperation, and reverse the damages on the ecosystems (they're essentially pulling the plug on our global life support by not signing treaties that will indubitably benefit them) from the ever so gradually accelerating climate crisis. So yeah, we're screwed if we don't overpower our governments and demand rapid change. The world as we know it has been built for sociopaths to climb while they waste our time telling us we need to be "educated" and conform.
Usually "inclusion" in modern media is just a way to drive up sales. Diversity and inclusivity nowadays is rarely genuine. It's almost exactly like the tokenism of older movies/games
She gives "I'm a paid actor puppetted by the right. My character is goth and here is my set. You can trust me. I'm a POC woman goth and not some old white man!" vibes
Fun fact, Gothix used to host LGBTQIA+ creators on her stream as recently as 2019. Dunno why she pivoted to the right, but that she did is super disappointing.
To think words aren’t the beginning is insane. It’s proven that language against a certain type of person leads to violence or exclusion. It’s literally the first step of propaganda against groups of people
Also the US was not founded on Christianity. It was founded on the idea of religious freedom. It make me laugh when people say that the US is a Christian nation. It’s not. Several of our founding father were secularists if not atheist.
Incorrect, it was founded to allow the freedom to establish their branch of Christianity, and religion worship is a protected class in the constitution. It's part of the First Amendment.
@@shanenolan5625 yes religious freedom is the foundation, but the US was not founded as a religious country and in fact was founded based in secular value (for the time). Most of the founding fathers were not Christian because of the englightenment and the push to science during the time.
@@shanenolan5625 the colonies that Britain sent were Christians based but the us founding fathers were literally rebellious children and tried to reject a lot of what England was doing
I disagree. Not on why and how the US was created, but that we aren't a christian nation. We may have been founded on religious freedom, but we haven't separated church from the state in a very long time.
As a queer, black trans dude I always feel so betrayed when I see pick me PoCs like this. There was a time in my life where I tried to assimilate in a somewhat similar way and it almost killed me. It also taught me that no matter how white and cishet I act, people will always treat me like the queer and black trans dude I am, even though they might not know what exactly it is that bothers them about me. It's not worth it.
I’ve been SA by two people who were supposed to be my friends. That was damaging. I have also been in an emotionally and psychologically abusive relationship and that messed me up way more. Words fkn hurt and do damage. That’s just the case for me, I can’t speak for anyone else.
(This is sarcasm) I love how Gothix thinks that words can't hurt when so many LGBTQ+ youth have taken their own lives from the verbal abuse of people. The torture that they go through. She really doesn't know any of our stories and wouldn't even want to hear them if we tried to tell her.
@DayDreamingWriters yes actually!! 'god' doesn't have a male or female identity 'he' just is. when being translated to English and many other languages 'he' was labelled masculine DESPITE THAT NOT BEIMG A THING IN THE ORIGINAL WRITINGS
On the point of words being hurtful, I would like to add that the language we use and other people use for us shapes the way we think about ourselves and our value. Words can also contribute to, promote and instigate physical violence. If we tolerate hateful language, that leads to people thinking it is okay to dehumanise an entire group of people, which leads to higher rates of hate crimes. Words also contribute to the laws being passed. Influential people like Rowling can sway the public opinion strongly against a group of people just by using words, contribute to fear-mongering and to the passing of anti-trans legislature. This is how TERFs in general influenced public opinion, with words. Words seriously impact people's lives. Words can affect people's rights. Words can turn violent. Someone who is capable of shouting the N word and harassing a random stranger on the street is likely capable of physical aggression too. Like, I don't know about other people, but if I were walking down the street holding hands with my partner and someone started shouting slurs at us, I I would feel threatened, I would be scared of potential physical violence. This is why threatening and harassing people is illegal, after all. Because it's dangerous and can easily escalate.
That's an excellent expansion on how words may not be the same as a physical attack, but how they nonetheless cause harm, on both a large and small scale. Well done!
Ironically the Goth/Metal/Punk stance never changed. The Woke movement just created a far far left and old school liberals, like me, are stating that it has gone too far.
@@Cyb3rFck I don't know where you got that idea, but if you're in the US, there's no left wing to speak of, and there hasn't really been one since the early 1950s.
I’m not a women in engineering but I have a lot of friends and my sister is. The things I’ve heard about the misogyny thats rampant throughout that field is just horrible. They always talk about how exhausting it is
Im enby and in engineering field and its actually scary how male dominated is. Like I've actually been looking for a mentor so that I also break into the work field well It's wild there's an office I went that had one woman only
When I came out to my grandma I've honestly had a mental breakdown and needed like 5 minutes to even get a word out 😭 My cousin's grandmas have been in a relationship since like 20 years but have to pretend to be friends or sisters because they're living in Poland 🙃 I'm lucky to have an accepting family but that doesn't make me any less scared because most of the people at every school I've been to have been homophobic (at university, most have been queer haha) and you can't always foresee people's reactions
@@enoughisenough8112 queer people get old too when they're fortunate, and it's great to see ❤ Also, when my cousin was like 5, she literally bragged to me about having 5 grandmas 😂 (3 of them aren't related to her but still treat her just as if they were)
@@DayDreamingWriters They seem happy, but life in Poland can be pretty hard for queer people from what I've been told, so I wish you good luck ❤ (I moved to Germany when I was 8, but still have friends who told me quite a bit about that.... and yes, the homophobic people were at schools in Germany 🙃) Also- ***** *** 💕
My black stepfather works for the New York City MTA and gets sent to be drug tested constantly while his white coworkers never are despite talking very openly about how they come to work drunk and high.
this person gives me the same fight or flight instinct I had as a gay teen going up to the nicest looking girls in my midwestern high school, thinking it would be a safe call, only to find out they were **also wildly homophobic lmao
She’s saying that “the Left” use collectivist language to talk about social issues…like she didn’t just lump a group of people together based on the same things.
I like how completely oblivous she is to the concept of verbal abuse when she says words are just words. I'm willing to garantee she wouldn't let her partner to talk to her like that and then him being "It's just words though" and be ok with it. The shear hypocrisy. Also love how she seems to think "goth" means wearing a leather collar with spikes.
Yeah speaking of the Pledge of Allegiance as a kid I didn’t do it because of religious reasons and I remember once a teacher trying to force my hand onto my heart and I had to go home and tell my parents and it was like a really weird experience like as a kid because I felt hated by my teacher
Physically? If they physically made you that's straight up assault, but either way physical or not that's really messed up and I'm sorry that happened to you, some people are religious nutcases and they wiggle their way into positions of power like education so they can force people to do what their religion teaches
@@mrcattoonist4766 back in the day, teachers could(and did!) lay hands on kids all the time... it was not unusual to be slapped, kicked, or yes, smacked with a ruler!
9:23 Words can be harmful especially because they're not always said in isolation. A lot of poc or queer people will hear slurs when being physically attacked or hate crimed. When negative words or slurs are then said to them at another time (even casually) they reinforce those experiences of being attacked. Historically too, words to that effect were uttered ALONG with violence. Many victims of hate crime in history have heard slurs right before being attacked or murdered. Repeating things like that, it's never just ' a word ', it digs up a whole history with it. They just further reinforce the fearful experiences that person or group has gone through at the hands of people using words like that while using actual violence against them. Those words fit a context & they are absolutely harmful.
@@idontreallyknowagoodname4191 First - that's not the point. Second - they probably meant all the people like this woman, that say they're goths but act like this. Or it's purposeful non-specific pronouns just because it's fun, considering how she'd react.
2 things: I’m sure other people have mentioned this but God is referred to in the Bible as He/Him/His so her point about “no pronouns in the Bible” is bullshit. Also, her statement about “think about if poc/women/queer people are trying to get into that field”; I teach introductory college biology. It is a huge part of the class that we try to encourage as many people to remain in STEM courses as we possibly can. Most of the videos we show of scientists who aren’t just cis white men mention that they never saw themselves represented in science. As a queer woman in science I also relate to that feeling, and so many students have told me it’s the first time they’re seeing scientists who aren’t just cis white men too. So yeah, courses on diversity and inclusion help EVERY field.
My family has always said that if we stop fighting for progress we’ll backslide to what it used to be like and we can sadly see that now. So no we won’t stop fighting for progress because “it’s just enough”.
I am way earlier than I have ever been. Her idea of words don't hurt makes me wanna commit several felonies. I have narcissistic abuse syndrome, a form of cptsd specific to being in a long term relationship with a narcissist. In my case, it was my father, and almost entirely emotional abuse. I will never have a normal brain function because of that, words fucking hurt.
Due to my undiagnosed childhood autism, I was labeled "the troubled kid". I didn't do schoolwork outside of school, I would draw or read instead of taking notes and still do good on tests (they thought I was cheating), and i refused to do the pledge. I would sit and watch all the other kids chant. It always made me so uncomfortable. Now I am a queer (gender and sexuality) autistic adult and I'm still terrified of anyone with that mindless cult mentality that classrooms pushed on us from kindergarten.
Anytime someone says something like "in the LGBT" and not something more like "In the LGBT community" I always think it's kind of hilarious. It just sounds ridiculous?
Yeah, imagine if they did that with the words themselves and not use the acronym “In the gay” “in the lesbian” “in the bi” “in the trans” “in the queer” ect… It sounds so wrong lmao
@@Cyber_Dunes Yes! Like it's so funny I can't take it seriously?? Like what if you are part of like a fandom or sport or something, and people introduced/described you as "In the soccer" or "in the kpop". Like there's no way to take it seriously at all
In America, we get in trouble for not standing and placing our hands over our hearts while the pledge plays at school. Even if you're just not putting your hand over your heart, the teacher will call you out and tell you to do it properly.
9:37 I just wanna add, words not only can be as damaging as physical pain but in most cases can be worse. words stick with you, forever. the person who said it may forget or apologize but the person who got told something offensive or mean isnt going to forget that and they’ll either be really hurt, or they’ll get a new insecurity. meanwhile, for physical violence, that only sticks with you for a little bit, of course this doesn’t mean always, because things like s/a, r@pe and longlasting conditions can be caused by physical, and those things certainly shouldn’t be cast aside, but we also have to understand that ANYTHING you do and say can be harmful even if your not meaning it to sound rude.
28:00 'America' was also founded bc Europeans wanted to make money from spices and goods from Asia but yeah... Just religion 🤔 definitely not destroying native populations for money
Her argument about how words are not the same as physical violence makes no sense to me. Hateful words are often the beginning and root of violence. Idk about you but when I (as a trans and queer person) hear a slur, whether it is directed at me or just said around me, I immediately associate it with violence. I am immediately scared for my well-being because I know it’s likely that people who use words to discriminate are usually the same people who are capable of being physically violent towards someone. This is how hate crimes start.
Sometimes I wonder why it took me until my 30s to identify as asexual/queer, and then I'm reminded very vividly. My dad likes to suggest he's tolerant, but last week we had a whole conversation on gay rights that convinced me he didn't see the bigger problem. We were talking about how a nearby city voted to not fly the rainbow flag in front of city hall and he claimed that it was fine because doing so would "exclude" everyone else. He was also not against flying the military flag because "they serve." I'm not sure what bothered me more, the rhetoric or that it was a lengthy conversation he seemed to want to win. I totally agree that words can be harmful because I don't feel comfortable discussing personal queerness in front of the man who last week also claimed that it bothered him that gay people "hijacked" (his word, not mine) the rainbow and now my dad is too self-conscious to buy/wear rainbow gear. Exclusion, hijacking... the words of a man I think may think he's an ally but doesn't understand what that term means.
I’m 19 and I didn’t realize I was Asexual and maybe aromantic until I was around 17. My family are super conservative and Christian. I am currently not out to them and I’m honestly not planning on coming out until I absolutely have to. So probably until I get to the marriage age. (That should be fun.) My mom usually lets me rant about my hardcore opinions but she just doesn’t get it at all. She thinks she does but she doesn’t. She is the type of women to brag about having a gay best friend. But the one thing she really doesn’t understand is trans people because “god doesn’t make mistakes” and all that. Me and my dad have a different relationship. He claims to fight for the underdog because he did it all through high school but he also refuses to think about what people are going through that are different then him. Like he thinks women get paid as much as men all the time. My dad and step mom constantly talk horrible about the trans and binary community specifically. I kept my mouth shut and refused to talk about my opinions because I knew it wouldn’t change their opinions. But 2 weeks ago I was in the car with my dad and we were at a McDonald’s drive thru. He then proceeded to tell me how when someone looks male he will make sure to say “mister” or “sir”. And that was so unbelievably petty of him. I just couldn’t keep my mouth shut anymore. I have always had respect for my dad. He knows a lot of things but there are also small instances where he gets things wrong about social issues but I don’t correct him because he is usually so right about things but this. He was so wrong about this. Every argument he was trying to make about binary and trans people was so unbelievably wrong. He literally said how it’s a mental illness. Like no. He was also so adamant in winning the argument. He would talk over me which was easy to do because I’m a naturally quite person and he wouldn’t even listen to a single thing I said. In all my 19 years of life I’ve never seen him act like that before. He was so stubborn and ignorant. I lost all respect for him that day.
I love how she cites the Pledge of Allegiance as an example of the US being founded on Christianity when the Pledge was written in the 1890s and the "under God" part wasn't added until the 1950s.
I mean, what even is there to say, there's nothing new in Gothix' hot takes, they're just repeating the same old conservative talking points. It's a shame those points are coming from a fellow goth, but that's not new either. I just wish people didn't act like being conservative was an act of rebellion, you saying it's fine for the boot to stay on your neck because you're tough enough to withstand, it isn't a flex.
as someone who was bullied for 5 years in uk high school 11-16 for being trans and physically assaulted many times for being trans, the physical assaults hurt just as much as the words. the words were so constant but no one could really do anything to help but when it crossed into physical assault there was things teachers could do, the police got involved a few times. people who haven’t been severely bullied don’t understand the impact of hearing people tear you down every day for a core aspect of your identity. like i dont even talk about being trans very often but your gender is by default a massive part of your identity. i had no one during that time. every single day was constant negativity. i also had severe gender dysphoria so there was no break from any of it. it was only kind of okay when the people who physically assaulted me had to leave me alone because the police had told them i’m not pressing charges i just want them to please leave me alone. words DO hurt.
I was abused my while childhood. My sperm donor made me watch him beat my younger brother like a man. He talked to me so bad...threw things at me...but he didn't hit me. I have c-ptsd and that man can die alone.
Why do I sense that this person who claims words don't hurt you would lose her mind is someone called her cis? And even if we ignored the ways words absolutely do hurt people, those same words also inspire the very people who carry out distinctly physical attacks. None of this happens in a vacuum, and the words that hurt queer people often come back to hurt us again in the form of a fascist with a gun. And we are a collective. Not because we are or ought to be the same, but because in the eyes of those who would hurt us we are. Because we face common challenges and can best push back against them with common strength. Together with other queer people, and together with all the other people society would rather ignore.
Yeah don't call a born woman Cis. You're ascribing your own labels onto someone who never asked for it. That, in your books, is assault because, apparently, words = violent.
She sure brings up the Bible a lot for a women who would be basically shunned by other Christians for her fashion. And I think they would think more women being in movies would be a little too whole for them.
I’m sorry, but she just sounds like a “pick me” 😂 that’s so embarrassing I promise you she has her own unconscious biases she’s unaware of As a mixed child my mom is Russian and she said a lot of racist and colorist things to me that I internalized growing up. ( I got weird about staying in the sun too long because she didn’t want me “too dark” 😢) I really had to check myself. And that’s ok. I learned. Didn’t mean I was a bad person, I just had to change the way I thought of things. ALSO, the whole talk in black community of “good hair” Yea 🙃 healthy hair is good hair and I’m glad I learned that too! Which was easy cuz I actually started hearing darker women with tighter coils explain their experiences. She’s disappointing because she seems incapable of learning.
@@lulub517 I'm not like those other girls/POC/alternative people! Diversity shouldn't exist, POC never experienced struggles, misogyny and sexism doesn't exist because I haven't experienced it!
@@lulub517 it's the fact that you think black women and Black people in general have to fit a certain mold and have to believe the "right" things in order for them to be actually black. You don't see how racist that is?
The under god part bothered me before any of the patriotic stuff did because I was never indoctrinated into religion as a child (they go after kids because their brains are like clay and you can more easily make a 5yr old believe in magic than you can make an adult), so that always bothered me, and then around 4th or 5th grade was when I noticed the patriotic stuff was also really wild, then on I always sat out during it even if some teachers didn't like that
@@mrcattoonist4766 Fun fact, the "under God" part wasn't added to the pledge until 1954, to show that we were morally superior to the godless commies.
i just wanna say how nicely dyed your hair is, the side red and purple are around the same values so they don't distract or look unfashionably mismatched and the bangs being lighter and brighter is so cute, goes really well with all your colorful outfits!
My old catholic school used to make use do the pledge of allegiance every single morning. Even as a kid I thought it was creepy as hell and I never did it. The teachers would go around and make sure we were all actually doing it. I’d lip sync it every time cuz my little paranoid imagination made me think I’d turn into a jesus zombie if I did. (For some reason). So to this day I’ve never said the full pledge of allegiance.
How does someone become so unempathetic, so incapable of just looking at stuff with logic or looking at stuff with so much subconscious hate? Someone did not raise Gothix right, because it's straight up shameful how hateful of people who are different to her she is.
@@Cyb3rFck yes, it's play to hate patriarchy, because patriarchy is a consept, a form of cultural structure, not a group of people. Patriarchy has its flaws, it's okay to critisize it just like it's okay to critisize any form of leadership and cultural structure. Acknowledge what it does well, hate what it does poorly or what it does to harm people. Matriarchy would not fix any of the issues we have with patriarchy, because they're both about gender inequality, that one gender rules over others. It's okay to hate gender inequality, because again, that's not a group of people, that's an idea.
Words don’t matter until they affect you. People like this are so selfish. You don’t care if it hurts other people because it doesn’t affect you, until it does. Discrimination, whether its verbal, physical, or institutional- is still discrimination. And not caring about these slurs is forgetting a part of history. You learn from history, and by trying to forget it exists we cannot go further.
I listen to a wide variety of music and have accidentally sang that word not realizing it. Once I did it when a friend was Around who called me out now i am paying more attention to the words.
I was sitting here going, I’m white and haven’t really had any struggles with misogyny and lgbt phobia where I am, then I suddenly realise that’s because I’m just numb to it, and then she whacks me with the ‘non binary isn’t real’ and okay, ouch yeah, I am affected by these words Anyway, amazing video!! Really well structured arguments and facts!!
I remember about a year ago I decided to watch Gothix’s more popular videos just to challenge myself. You could say she at least TRIES to come off as someone who wants to think for themselves, (even if they aren’t) it’s more than other conservatives. I think shes just exposed to these beliefs and therefore has a pick-me sort of mindset. I hope she can get out of it soon ;-;
Trans masc here, i'm very feminine and it hurts me mentally. Whenever people assume that im a girl, it makes me feel invalid. Even though i'm fine with looking feminine, it still hurts.
Only clicked on this video because I thought your hair looked sick as hell and the video seemed promising, stayed because you're absolutely right and make a good entertaining video, subbed :D
I (as a female carpenter) got refused at a lot of interviews for internships. And I live in the Netherlands and usually we are very progressive. 2 of them even admitted that it was because i am a woman one said "they didn't want a woman to mess up the realm amongst the male workers". 🤮
When I told my school at the time they told them that they won't be sending any interns to them anymore. I am now self employed for 3 years and I am doing well at my job💪
Hell yeah, good for you! It sucks that things didn’t work out in the industry, but it’s great to see you managed to make it work for yourself on your own terms ☺️👍
How strange it seems that you are complaining about the path that set you free and liberated you, so that you could be your own boss. Men want their own time and space free from female energy, just as women want their own time and space free from male energies. It is natural for each race to want to be, at times, fully immersed in their own energy fields.
When someone does not want you in their group do not take it as a strike against you, but rather an opportunity to understand that we all already belong to a group and that is plenty: humanity.
Do not be greedy to want things, just make the things happen which you can make.
@Firstimefooder what do you mean "female and male energy"? Also, please don't put words in my mouth. You don't know me. I don't want time separated from men. I still have a lot of male colleagues, so I don't understand this.
I don't understand why you have to support this sexism.
@Firstimefooder also, it was for an internship and not a job. So I whould have been my own boss anyway after school.
@@studiobuckeycolours if one does not understand the difference between the two, then one cannot understand anything put forward from here out. Words where not put into your mouth, you wrote something, it was interpreted and put back out there. So if you do not agree with it, that is fine, but when it brings up such emotions something in my words has hit a nerve and a recess of the brain that wants more.
I never said that I know you, that there is putting words in someone’s mouth. Furthermore we all take time from the direct opposite energies, that is what allows for contemplation and growth..but I digress, for if you do not understand the energy flows then one most likely shall miss the message that lies here in my words.
All love, no hast nor hate here; just open that one eye that is asking to be opened.
"I'm not like other girls, I like slurs"
3:13 ‘Political Left’ is code word for ‘I would’ve called you a witch in another century’.
THIS
Make no mistake, they will seek to have us treated as if they did say those words and had vicious laws based on that sentiment enforced against us.
Political left = disgusting Marxist
@@professorfoxtrot They also seem to very inconsistent in their takes on what that translation means lol, the Marxist bit. "gubbermint does stuff!" hours lol.
She says words don’t lead to violence as if politicians and influencers hating queer people doesn’t directly lead to other people committing violence against us
Two cisgender people were recently murdered because their attackers thought they were trans. Words cause violence and it's bananas that some people can't connect the dots.
And a lot of people get bullied into depression. By words.
@@AstaGruwier-vi5ht yeah words hurt reall bad
Or words like hers didn't lead to that supermarket shooting where a white conservatives shot and killed black people in a black neighborhood because conservative propaganda told him "the left" was trying to replace white people. Words insight violence and these conservatives know that.
Yeah, like, has she ever even heard of January 6th?!
“There are no pronouns in the Bible” is my favourite Conservative take 🤣
Like where Jesus says "I am He"?
“Let US make man in OUR image…let THEM have dominion…”
Pronouns get used literally the first time people even get mentioned.
They forget me, you and I are in fact pronouns. It's kind of sad English class failed them so hard
They tried to have " there are no pronouns in the constitution " ( because everyone is American ofcores ) but they stopped when someone mentioned the words " *we* the people"
God identifies a male but I haven't seen a huge dong in the sky
Ok but "...those aren't doctors, they're activists. In the Bible..." is the funniest sequence of words she could've said.
The way she said that pronouns aren't in the Bible as well 😂 like you know that pronouns are just part of grammar, right????
@@rachelppython conservatives are just too dumb to understand what pronouns are
Because activists can't be doctors, or Christians, obviously
@@rachelppython It's not like the Christian God is most often referred to by a pronoun or anything.../s
@@rachelppython bold of you to assume that anyone like this would dare to pay attention to anything factual, or god forbid, literally just google it before talking about it.
Gothix is that parent who tells you it’s ok that you’re queer and then immediately tells to tone down the queer energy.
Edit: I wasn’t expecting this level of response so thank you for engaging. Also, love to everyone going through a difficult time with support and affirmation. You are never alone.
I forgot that this kind of parent existed but you are absolutely right
You just described my parents good job
ew yuck that's my parents 😭
”I don’t hate gay people, but why do you have to be so annoyingly gay”
"im not homophobic, BUT.."
Imagine thinking emotional harm
doesn't exist
Or emotional abuse as a matter of fact
Dylan Mulvaney is a man!!
imagine thinking that and claiming to be Goth.
She's just invalidating literally everyone on the planet and I didn't think that was possible
is she an alien in a skin suit
Jessica the Patron here✌️
Thank you so much for making this video! I'm a trans girl and an atheist so her videos really frustrate me since they boil down to "Trans people don't exist, but my god does". Very frustrating, but watching one of my favorite RUclipsrs respond to her video here was so cathartic to watch cause you're saying everything I would've said.
Really hope you respond to her Jesus video cause that sounds like a blast and a half to watch. Thanks again!!! 🫶
I’m very spiritual (not religious but I do have my own god stuff) and I HATE that people can say that their god does things for a reason but can’t fathom their god making a trans person???
I totally agree
Good for you :-) Next time someone talks about not wanting to confirm your "delusion", tell them that you don't want to confirm theirs. :-D
@@Astrolionking same here, my family are pagan, and we worship leshy (or as mum calls him, the green man). Technically he's a god of nature. I don't think of him as a god, just a homie who helps out with our rituals sometimes. Other people will do things that displease leshy, but that's life. People do things that make me upset too. So what? I do things that make leshy upset sometimes (although I do try to remedy it when I do something severe), I know leshy wouldn't approve of the fossil fuel used to charge my phone, or the plastic bracelets I wear, etc. He might not have made them, and they might annoy him sometimes, but at the end of the day he accepts that they exist, and we as his followers also accept that ✨that's life✨ and it's weird to me that Christians, Muslims, and other followers of other organised religions can't come to that understanding
Thank you so much for the vid recommendation. As the parent of a trans boy I had all the same responses myself and it's good to know we can come together here in a supportive community.
I always love how conversatives are SO AGAINST collectivism yet only think about society through their lens
almost like they are really just against the idea of having to be considerate of others
Hence their opposition to PC culture, which is, at its core, about being a decent human being that respects others.
My sister studied psychology and she told me that things like rejection in social circumstances or just being emotionally hurt activates the same part of the brain as being physically hurt. So yes it does hurt. That woman needs to think before she speaks
"They have to abandon their values just to get a paycheck" THIS IS AN HILARIOUS LINE. She's acting like that's a new thing. As if that' NOT the essence of capitalism.
This is an especially delicious irony, given that most conservative pundits (like HER) are in reality shameless grifters that don't even believe the things they say and are, in fact...doing it for fat stacks of cash. Like how Dave Rubin and Jimmy Dore used to both work for TYT and had really proggressive rhetoric some years ago and now they've turned 180 degrees and munching on the Republicans' footwear. Then there's...(heavy sigh) Candace Owens, the women who went from victim of a h@te-crime, suing her aggressors to...not just saying that systemic r@cism doesn't exist, but also that "Hitler would have been ok, if he had just stuck to Germany instead of invading other countries" and running defense for the CSA...
if she isnt bothered by people calling her the n word i cant even fathom how little respect she has for herself lol. like grow a spine its ok man.
Her argument about words not equaling violence is just telling me she's a "tough-love" person that thinks everybody can just be as tough and should just suck it up.
I got huge pick me vibes. And I hate using that term, but as soon as she said that about the N word...yeah no!. "I'm not like those other black people, I won't cry if you call me names, discriminate against me, pay me less or steal *my* rights."
Oh but heaven forbid anyone "uses pronouns" and these people turn into the biggest snowflakes. They've become so anti-trans that they're now scared of futzing pronouns! It's to the point they deny they're even in the bible because they're also too stupid to know what a pronoun is, apparently. 🤦 fml. And they try to school _us_ on grammar over they/them and their obsession with it not being used in the singular. If I have an aneurysm it'll be because of people like that.
Which is a complete dissociative point from the reality of human experience. Some people are neurodivergent, and experience sensitivity and emotional terror to verbal abuse. The words people say to each other can cut deep into our psyche, and create self fulfilling prophecies, leading to lifetimes of repeating the behaviours related to the "undesirable" traits (mostly just misunderstood as sins people "choose" to commit, instead of rather a manifestation of mental illness or disorder that require medical attention*) others so cruelly bellowed at them. The type who say "suck it up" do not seem to realise they are living a self fulfilling prophecy as well. "If I just "get over it", it won't affect me," cue mental breakdown at mid life, known famously as the midlife crisis which usually entails them proclaiming "no one understands me!".
"I was spanked as a child, and I turned out fine," is usually a person who uses aggression or intimidation to get what they want, hurting more people in the process.
It is a complete, self inflicted lack of empathy, stemming from childhood programming, and they'll keep inflicting this mindset on themselves and others until, well, we figure out what will allow them to see a different perspective; when they learn cognitive empathy.
*If one must rest with a cold or take medication for a flu, or wear a cast with a broken bone, then why do we have to just "suck it up and carry on" when we're mentally ill, or experiencing a debilitating mental disorder? Treatment such as "get over it" has proven not to work for everyone, but therapy, growing a sense of self compassion and medication certainly has.
We need change.
@@audreydoyle5268 yes, exactly! They can't understand that humans have different brains that functions differently.
@@audreydoyle5268 If you feel the need to inflict pain on others just because it happened to you means that you did not, in fact, turn out fine. That's always the ironic thing about these people.
She's probably the type of person who'd say "I was spanked as a child and I turned out fine!" completely oblivious to the ways in which that corporal punishment warped their psyche.
She did a video on “transphobia isn’t real” and as a trans woman, I don’t have the strength to watch it. If you wanna cover that one or any more of her videos, I love everything you’ve spoken on in this one. Thank you for defending us
If transphobia isn't real, try telling that to the dozens of trans people that where killed in the US alone just last year.
If someone thinks that transphobia isn't real their privilege is showing a LOT. I am a trans guy and I am living as me for only a bit over two years and I have experienced a lot of transphobia. And it is a lot worse for trans women especially if they are poc.
@@afoolishfopdoodle3284 the worst part is, in the video, she basically Does Just That. a whole section is about how hate crimes aren’t ‘real’.
@@robinpotato9886 I can empathize as I live in a rural town. I’m also two years into my transition and experience transphobia every day. I get made fun of all the time and family refuses to accept me. It’s very real and yes, if someone doesn’t think it’s real- they have immense privilege.
“Privilege is invisible to those who have it.” 💔
Good! Don't try to force yourself to give someone views when they don't deserve it
As all the other goths here said: we don’t claim her, being conservative and “goth”baffles me.💀
it's like the numbers of people who call themselves "punk" or lament that they can't "dress punk" anymore because it will have them confused with the left/'woke mob'. Like dude... you're not punk if you stand with oppression, that's literally the antithesis of the punk movement.
huh? what's with the gatekeeping? it's not like being goth is some social justice/human rights movement that comes in contradiction with conservatism, it's just a style at best, chill
@@_Amarin lol not gatekeeping. if people say they are conservative and goth i wont stop them. but i will bitch about it on the internet bc i personally think its silly. although its worth mentioning that goth is a music based subculture, not a style. gothic is the style. :)
@@_Amarin alternative cultures ARE inherently leftist political. The politics come first, the music is secondary, the fashion is optional.
@@_Amarin ''It's just a style''
No, it ain't. Goth is more than just a fashion trend or a style of dress. It is a multifaceted subculture with its own music, literature, art, philosophy, and social values. It emerged in the late 1970s as a subculture that embraced elements of post-punk, gothic literature, and horror aesthetics. But the aesthetics are a byproduct where music is the core. By reducing Goth solely to its fashion aspect and aesthetics, it overlooks the cultural, artistic, and intellectual depth that defines the subculture. The music is core to it all because the music made it.
We really gotta knock it off with these attempts at dilluting and commodifying a culture with rich history and then acting surprised when members of said culture take offense to that.
Would a Metalhead be a gatekeeper if they suggested that being a Metalhead means listening to Metal? Come on, of course not. Goths are asking for the bare basics. If they're gatekeeping they're handing out the key to anyone who actually genuinely cares about it.
EDIT: In hindsight though. Think you're being sarcastic. If that's the case well I stand by what I say but not necessarily towards you haha.
"Words hurt"... Absolutely!!! My Dad was verbally and emotionally abusive as I was growing up... I'm in my 50's and TO THIS DAY when it comes up I still can feel the trauma from when I was a small child!
Understandable. I get what you've gone through, to a lesser degree. I was yelled at to my face, by my dad, that I was selfish for turning the TV volume down. I had felt like it was too loud, as I'm autistic and has excellent hearing, and can be overwhelmed. I didn't want to have anxiety. But my dad has damaged ears. To this day I struggle with feelings of worthlessness and being a horrible person. I feel selfish for just wanting love. Even now I believe I don't deserve romance.
@@iclynnx Idk you but I’m sure you’re a much more beautiful person than you think you are, and you are absolutely deserving of love and romance. I would focus on getting in the right headspace first, but you are so deserving of love
@@joelleash8873 Thank you. I'm one of the lucky ones who has been able to find people that treat me well, and in turn, I can work on myself and do good things too. I've even found romance; I've been dating someone for a few months now.
I hope you're doing great, too! I appreciate the kind reply, even after one year.
how are you going to be a self proclaimed goth and still hold all the beliefs that kicked down your own community for decades?
she lost her goth card
@@rosie2871 💀💀
Like being goth and other forms of alt is quite a bit about inclusivity {also the music}
It's a music based subculture not a political subculture
@@GothicRose. most of the music is very "tear down the patriarchy" and very political; also it is strongly associated with many political movements which also are based on non-comformity.
As a Asexual, Black and less than 15 percent Cherokee native who dreams of being a film director, I can tell you that the film industry is not only the most competitive field but the most male dominant. To answer that woman’s question, yes alot of us would love to do films but we are either seen as a raging feminist or just easily passed up because we don't fit their ideal person. Plus, I'm pretty sure the stories we want to tell, the public (I mean toxic males) will think it's a full on feminist film and is about women empowerment because they only see one man (which is so funny since they don't complain about that with male lead casting) or they won't like what they heard.
Funny enough, I had a man tell me that basically action films are made for men in general lol
So true. Every time marvel makes a movie lately with a lot of women (like the recent black panther movie) my dad is complaining about how they are trying to make everything about “girl power” and that it’s annoying. And that movie still had plenty of men in it, it just happened to have a predominantly female main cast.
It’s so dumb that just making a movie about women’s experiences instead of men’s is seen as a ‘raging feminist’ film when it’s just our lives!!
(tho I’d love me some raging feminist movies)
@@mokaakashiya9318 ugh that’s so annoying!! I thought Wakanda Forever’s female cast was awesome cos it just kinda naturally happened - especially as the sequel was originally gonna be a father-son story!
I feel you there. I'm disabled and am actor, we sadly make up less then 2% of all roles, even when a character is described as disabled (usually an abled body person is cast to play them) and about 1% of directors. Hollywood and Broadway really do a terrible job of representing up. Most of us get put into Villian or Inspiration Porn roles instead of just being people.
i’m a non binary, queer, and disabled editor/cinematographer and i completely agree that our industry is horrible, rife with any ism and phobia you could ever imagine. we could be better than any cishet white man, but STILL need to work 12 times harder than that just to get a crumb of recognition. i’ve had so many people tell me that they didn’t expect me to “be as good” as i am, which is literally so insulting i can’t begin to verbalize it. never give up in your fight for a spot in the industry, your voice is valuable and needed!! and if you ever need a dp/video editor i got you;)
Can we talk about how people always forget that intersex people exist
Ye its annoying I litterly got onto a argument with someone over this and they said that intersex people are just a "mental illness"
@@Autumn4779 they do know that it's something that ppl are born with and has nothing to do with the brain, right?
@@Autumn4779 wow that’s actually appalling that someone said that 😤 that would’ve made me so mad
PLEASE
Can we talk about how literally everyone is aware that intersex people exist, they just don't care about them for they are not relevant to any discussion since trans and intersex people are not the same.
she really said “i’m cool with being called a slur” LMAO
Just because she's alright with letting other people disrespect her doesn't mean the rest of us have to put up with it. I don't get what's so difficult to understand about this concept.
@@miaomiaochan Fr, I for one will not put up with being disrespected like that. I wonder if she’s ever heard of having self respect 💀
Her googling black actors and saying Hollywood is perfectly diverse is the funniest part of this entire video tbh. Made me cackle. Literally can't take anything else she says even slightly seriously- This HAS to be extreme satire 😆
Weren’t most of them men too!!
@@mailyak442 yes!!! Ffs
Tempted to go and count how many of them were the same few black actors appearing multiple times...
All of the arguments that her a lot of similar people make are so fundamentally flawed that it's hard to take them seriously. How the hell does that prove anything? Even if that was somehow any form of evidence, that only covers black people and black people only, no other marginalised groups.
It was barely a year ago that "true fans"(especially those from the States) were throwing a hissy-fit that Idris Elba and Henry Goulding were on the list of possible British actors considered to be recast as James Bond. But sure, we've solved r@cism in cinema, according to Gothix... 😂😂😂
I hate "alternative" people who espouse conservative ideals.
For real. Like that is literally the opposite of alt peoples point of existence.
Right? Fuckin' poseurs.
That reminds me of a Paul Joseph Watson video where he said conservatism is the new punk rock/counter culture 🤣🤣🤣🙄
There have always been right wing people who are attracted to the aesthetic without looking any deeper than that. to illustrate, the 1981 song 'Nazi punks fuck off' by the Dead Kennedys.
I dont get it… not one bit. Ive seen some punk trumpers in the past and i was just dumbfounded…. Like punk in particularly like i think a lot of these people dont realize with the different alternative subcultures its often not just a way of dress its a way of life, a way of thinking, a value system, etc etc… the only thing i can think is that they just like the aesthetics of it. But with punk what makes it extra stupid is of all the subcultures punk is probably the most inherently political and its not at all aligned with conservatism in any way. Its actually quite antithetical to conservatism.
Gothix mindset: me me me me me. Never happened to me? Doesn't exist. Never hurt me? Can't be that bad.
It's actually kind of pathetic; like the "Cool Girl" mindset, except a Black person who wants to look "cool and chill" to conservatives. Goddamn, have some self-respect!
This made me laugh so hard and cheered me up lol.
Without fail, every conservative I've ever met only cared about issues that impacted them personally.
So basically Brett Cooper?
Like most conservatives
“acknowledging that poc, lgbt, and religious minorities exist is trying to push a political agenda” is the most batshit crazy thing i’ve ever heard in my life
Based on her argument of words can’t cause harm, she seems like the type of person that would tell you to just “get over” mental health issues.
She gives me mommy issues fight or flight. Literally reminds me of when I was bullied as a kid and everyone told me to "just let words not effect me."
I also get similar reactions because of my emotionally abusive mother
How common of a response is that because I was told that too
@@afoolishfopdoodle3284 v e r y common
She literally sounded like my parents there and that honestly got me breaking into a deep sweat.
I wouldn't be surprised if she was a bully in high school tbh
I don't understand how you can think that you are goth in anyway and still have conservative values. Our whole history is against that. I'm not much of a gatekeeper, but I damn sure gonna gatekeep in this case
Same, I was like "you lost your goth card", and it's REALLY hard to lose your goth card.
For real!
At this point, just call her a poser. Subcultures need to be more unfriendly to bigots and exclude people with exclusionary views, so it all balances out in the end. She's simply a fraud.
Bigots dont even get to touch the fence
some people don't understand that goth is not just an aesthetic :/
A few years ago, the hospital unit I was working in had a mandatory training on LGBTQ+ inclusion. Most people came out of it saying how great it was and they were glad to have learned things. By coincidence, just a few weeks later we had a patient who was trans. To my knowledge, nobody misgendered or deadnamed that patient, or brought up gender or genitals when they weren't relevant. In many cases, this was definitely due to what they had learned in that training. I really think that most people want to respect others, they just sometimes need to be taught how. That is the purpose of those DEI courses that she scoffs at. To teach respect.
I am truly grateful to have found the company/job that I am at currently, because the community and environment of the office is so incredibly willing to learn. We do a lot of DEI courses via Zoom and the amount of active input from my colleagues is wonderful. This was my first job after coming out as transmasc NB, and they have been wonderful; I have been able to speak on my experiences as a trans person as well as with ADHD/being neurodivergent. Forever grateful for these courses and the people who take them to heart.
Yet another example of woke PC culture gone too far. /s
I hate when conservatives call inclusion a "tactic" a tactic for what, like just making a safe work environment for minorities is just a nice thing to do and the right thing to do.
A PoIlTiCaL aGeNdA like ok. List for me what the agenda is, I'm waiting to hear all about the big scary equal rights and socioeconomic stability we want to inflict on your kids.
i like how they act like bigoted thinking is crucial to a critical thinking environment and contributes in anyway
@@Fuffydud because it doesn't fit the nuclear family mold, which they were the ones who made impossible anyway. They go on about how LGBT+ individuals and families are ruining society, and ruining the nuclear family, because it doesn't follow the outdated "blueprint" to all facets of society.
The inflation of the economy, the overworking/underpayment of diverse employees, the destruction of natural habitats to further create human civil and industrial growth, are the reasons the nuclear family can no longer thrive (never would anyway, the way they wish it to be, because the nuclear family is a dysfunctional family model built on a foundation of rigid expectation, rather than adaptable compassion). And with the alteration of restrictive policies to ensure the safety of women (changes to divorce laws), marriage equality (so that queer people can express love the same way heteros do), disability equity (no one left behind, we have worth), it's no wonder the nuclear family doesn't work anymore, because it never did. It worked for cis, white, het men from the middle and elite classes, and since they're still largely in "power", they perceive this "agenda" for equality as a seemingly inevitable breakdown of their sandcastles. The waves do not care for the precarious structures built by greedy, sinful, self righteous men. (They wrote the rules, but rules are made to be broken, when they do not function best for **everyone to thrive** ).
The old ways of society never worked for everyone, so those who were born with a silver spoon believe that if we had total equity, therefore equality, then that spoon would be ripped from the mouths of their children. They believe equity will not work, because they do not believe everyone deserves an equitable distribution of creature comforts and necessities. Hence, hording of wealth, profit margins widening, manipulation of the markets to create for themselves monopsonies. It is all a vie for control to ensure the status quo. They conflate greed and hard, largely unnecessary work (Elon is *somewhat* the exception, he could *potentially* be reasoned with, it may be a long shot though) with creating opportunities for their offspring, and cannot see how that same love for their children ought to be extended to every child. Because, circling back, they believe the nuclear family works best for children. Therefore cannot seem to fathom how that simply is not the truth of it, as they believe if everyone lived in a nuclear family, all children would be provided for. They seem to completely ignore human divergence is natural regardless of strict conformity, because divergence occurs everywhere in nature. Without it, we'd never survive; without changes in our DNA and evolving biological (and medical) resistance to disease and disaster, we'd die out. Homosexual people exist for orphaned and abandoned children so that other families aren't overburdened. Trans people exist because of maternal trauma inflicting hormonal fluctuations in utero. Disabled people exist because life and biology can be cruel.
By creating safe, equitable work environments, they believe there will be a complete dissolution of the economy and nuclear family, rather than considering perhaps the current formation of the economy and society doesn't work for every person potentially capable of providing worth to humanity.
Imagine how far we'd go as a species if everyone who has genius were provided opportunities beyond the separating spheres the elites have managed for so long. If kindhearted, good-natured, compassionate, intelligent people such as myself were given influence and control. It does a total disservice to humanity to barricade necessities and opportunities out of an unfounded fear of societal collapse. Society is already collapsing under the current model!!!
A single billionaire has the power to end world hunger, however they cry "logistics!". The council of world governments have the power to end world conflict, inspire cooperation, and reverse the damages on the ecosystems (they're essentially pulling the plug on our global life support by not signing treaties that will indubitably benefit them) from the ever so gradually accelerating climate crisis.
So yeah, we're screwed if we don't overpower our governments and demand rapid change. The world as we know it has been built for sociopaths to climb while they waste our time telling us we need to be "educated" and conform.
@@Fuffydud It's brunch.
Usually "inclusion" in modern media is just a way to drive up sales.
Diversity and inclusivity nowadays is rarely genuine. It's almost exactly like the tokenism of older movies/games
She gives "I'm a paid actor puppetted by the right. My character is goth and here is my set. You can trust me. I'm a POC woman goth and not some old white man!" vibes
I just know she was a bully in school. Like “words don’t hurt the same” is something a mean girl would say when confronted with being a bitch.
"Back then they thought the word was flat."
And people still do 😩
not to mention the fact that words can insight physical violence as well
Incite
Fun fact, Gothix used to host LGBTQIA+ creators on her stream as recently as 2019. Dunno why she pivoted to the right, but that she did is super disappointing.
To think words aren’t the beginning is insane. It’s proven that language against a certain type of person leads to violence or exclusion. It’s literally the first step of propaganda against groups of people
Also the US was not founded on Christianity. It was founded on the idea of religious freedom. It make me laugh when people say that the US is a Christian nation. It’s not. Several of our founding father were secularists if not atheist.
Incorrect, it was founded to allow the freedom to establish their branch of Christianity, and religion worship is a protected class in the constitution. It's part of the First Amendment.
@@shanenolan5625 yes religious freedom is the foundation, but the US was not founded as a religious country and in fact was founded based in secular value (for the time). Most of the founding fathers were not Christian because of the englightenment and the push to science during the time.
@@shanenolan5625 the colonies that Britain sent were Christians based but the us founding fathers were literally rebellious children and tried to reject a lot of what England was doing
Jefferson and many others were Deists, go look up the Jefferson Bible where he took out all the parts that didn't make sense to him!
I disagree. Not on why and how the US was created, but that we aren't a christian nation. We may have been founded on religious freedom, but we haven't separated church from the state in a very long time.
As a queer, black trans dude I always feel so betrayed when I see pick me PoCs like this. There was a time in my life where I tried to assimilate in a somewhat similar way and it almost killed me. It also taught me that no matter how white and cishet I act, people will always treat me like the queer and black trans dude I am, even though they might not know what exactly it is that bothers them about me. It's not worth it.
Complete aside but W Garrus icon
Good taste
@@Tree-House69 Garrus is love, Garrus is life
Probably because you never made any attempt to act normal. It's surprising to see that not every person fits your political hivemind now does it?
You're entire qualifying statement MAKES YOU A PIC ME POC, dummy.
@@sabersin5368-c2c keep coping.
I’ve been SA by two people who were supposed to be my friends. That was damaging. I have also been in an emotionally and psychologically abusive relationship and that messed me up way more. Words fkn hurt and do damage. That’s just the case for me, I can’t speak for anyone else.
(This is sarcasm)
I love how Gothix thinks that words can't hurt when so many LGBTQ+ youth have taken their own lives from the verbal abuse of people. The torture that they go through. She really doesn't know any of our stories and wouldn't even want to hear them if we tried to tell her.
She doesn't give a shit about LGBTQ+ people.
"there are no pronouns in the bible"
Every time there's a "he" referring to god:
In orginal version of Bible...
God was refered by both, Masc and Femme Pronounces....
So Thats means God is GendeFluid?
@@DayDreamingWriters god is genderlesss because he’s not a human and gender is a human trait. He’s above us.
@DayDreamingWriters yes actually!! 'god' doesn't have a male or female identity 'he' just is. when being translated to English and many other languages 'he' was labelled masculine DESPITE THAT NOT BEIMG A THING IN THE ORIGINAL WRITINGS
Us goths don't claim her, can't be goth if you lean towards tge right side
Agreed. The fascists do not dance in our darkness.
Fr. Goths stomped fascists out of their spaces in the fucking 80s
Yeah, I don't know what goths she's been hanging out with
fascists give so many alt subcultures a bad name :-/
how can you not be a goth and conservative how are those thing exclusive to each other that like saying you cant be a Christians and left wing
On the point of words being hurtful, I would like to add that the language we use and other people use for us shapes the way we think about ourselves and our value. Words can also contribute to, promote and instigate physical violence. If we tolerate hateful language, that leads to people thinking it is okay to dehumanise an entire group of people, which leads to higher rates of hate crimes. Words also contribute to the laws being passed. Influential people like Rowling can sway the public opinion strongly against a group of people just by using words, contribute to fear-mongering and to the passing of anti-trans legislature. This is how TERFs in general influenced public opinion, with words. Words seriously impact people's lives. Words can affect people's rights. Words can turn violent. Someone who is capable of shouting the N word and harassing a random stranger on the street is likely capable of physical aggression too. Like, I don't know about other people, but if I were walking down the street holding hands with my partner and someone started shouting slurs at us, I I would feel threatened, I would be scared of potential physical violence. This is why threatening and harassing people is illegal, after all. Because it's dangerous and can easily escalate.
That's an excellent expansion on how words may not be the same as a physical attack, but how they nonetheless cause harm, on both a large and small scale. Well done!
That's right. White straight men are being subjected to hate from the Far-Left.
Don't like the fight-back do ya?
Emotional abuse can actually cause shrinking of the hippocampus and other areas of the brain. Words DO affect us physically.
"Pronouns don't exist." is so right. agree with point so much. Honestly, everyone should think like .
Pronouns exist
@@professorfoxtrot No! are wrong, because say so.
@@commandercorl1544see what did there.
@@wiselioness322 Thanks, glad noticed.
Took a second but when noticed, laughed ass off LMAO
She's trying to do the "Conservative is the new punk rock" thing and failing.
Lol
She is a genuine, sensible, decent human.
@@fowchiiiliedpuppiesdied No she isn't.
Ironically the Goth/Metal/Punk stance never changed. The Woke movement just created a far far left and old school liberals, like me, are stating that it has gone too far.
@@Cyb3rFck I don't know where you got that idea, but if you're in the US, there's no left wing to speak of, and there hasn't really been one since the early 1950s.
I’m not a women in engineering but I have a lot of friends and my sister is. The things I’ve heard about the misogyny thats rampant throughout that field is just horrible. They always talk about how exhausting it is
Im enby and in engineering field and its actually scary how male dominated is. Like I've actually been looking for a mentor so that I also break into the work field well
It's wild there's an office I went that had one woman only
They made a video called transphobia isn't real...
I am dead inside
HELP MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
The fact you casually used they/them pronouns for her is way funnier than it should be 😭
💀💀
When I came out to my grandma I've honestly had a mental breakdown and needed like 5 minutes to even get a word out 😭 My cousin's grandmas have been in a relationship since like 20 years but have to pretend to be friends or sisters because they're living in Poland 🙃 I'm lucky to have an accepting family but that doesn't make me any less scared because most of the people at every school I've been to have been homophobic (at university, most have been queer haha) and you can't always foresee people's reactions
dude grandmas dating is something is something i've never heard before this is so cool
Ouch
As Questioning induvidual from Poland
I feel really bad about Grannies. I wish them happy live
@@enoughisenough8112 queer people get old too when they're fortunate, and it's great to see ❤
Also, when my cousin was like 5, she literally bragged to me about having 5 grandmas 😂 (3 of them aren't related to her but still treat her just as if they were)
@@DayDreamingWriters They seem happy, but life in Poland can be pretty hard for queer people from what I've been told, so I wish you good luck ❤ (I moved to Germany when I was 8, but still have friends who told me quite a bit about that.... and yes, the homophobic people were at schools in Germany 🙃)
Also- ***** *** 💕
Universities queerness in Poland is something else lol
My black stepfather works for the New York City MTA and gets sent to be drug tested constantly while his white coworkers never are despite talking very openly about how they come to work drunk and high.
this person gives me the same fight or flight instinct I had as a gay teen going up to the nicest looking girls in my midwestern high school, thinking it would be a safe call, only to find out they were **also wildly homophobic lmao
She’s saying that “the Left” use collectivist language to talk about social issues…like she didn’t just lump a group of people together based on the same things.
Agreed. The Holocaust was started with "just words".
Words are incredibly powerful and need to be recognized as such.
The Holocaust was started with collectivism
So you're either uneducated or mental.
it confuses me if ppl like gothix just lack the critical thinking or went for the easy grift
I like how completely oblivous she is to the concept of verbal abuse when she says words are just words. I'm willing to garantee she wouldn't let her partner to talk to her like that and then him being "It's just words though" and be ok with it. The shear hypocrisy. Also love how she seems to think "goth" means wearing a leather collar with spikes.
Yeah speaking of the Pledge of Allegiance as a kid I didn’t do it because of religious reasons and I remember once a teacher trying to force my hand onto my heart and I had to go home and tell my parents and it was like a really weird experience like as a kid because I felt hated by my teacher
The only pledge I recite now is "I pledge allegiance to... Liberty and Justice for ALL!!!" The rest of it is superflous and unecessary!
Physically? If they physically made you that's straight up assault, but either way physical or not that's really messed up and I'm sorry that happened to you, some people are religious nutcases and they wiggle their way into positions of power like education so they can force people to do what their religion teaches
@@mrcattoonist4766 back in the day, teachers could(and did!) lay hands on kids all the time... it was not unusual to be slapped, kicked, or yes, smacked with a ruler!
9:23 Words can be harmful especially because they're not always said in isolation. A lot of poc or queer people will hear slurs when being physically attacked or hate crimed. When negative words or slurs are then said to them at another time (even casually) they reinforce those experiences of being attacked. Historically too, words to that effect were uttered ALONG with violence. Many victims of hate crime in history have heard slurs right before being attacked or murdered. Repeating things like that, it's never just ' a word ', it digs up a whole history with it. They just further reinforce the fearful experiences that person or group has gone through at the hands of people using words like that while using actual violence against them. Those words fit a context & they are absolutely harmful.
She is so against "group identity", but always talks about "We this and we that." Who is this we she is identifying with?
wow i didn't know ben shapiro had a black woman alter ego
I thought she was Candace Owens' goth sister.
Midwit grifter
goths don’t claim them
And👏we👏never👏will👏
Juup not one of us
Her*
@@idontreallyknowagoodname4191 First - that's not the point. Second - they probably meant all the people like this woman, that say they're goths but act like this. Or it's purposeful non-specific pronouns just because it's fun, considering how she'd react.
@@idontreallyknowagoodname4191 they/them is literally neutral get over yourself
2 things: I’m sure other people have mentioned this but God is referred to in the Bible as He/Him/His so her point about “no pronouns in the Bible” is bullshit.
Also, her statement about “think about if poc/women/queer people are trying to get into that field”; I teach introductory college biology. It is a huge part of the class that we try to encourage as many people to remain in STEM courses as we possibly can. Most of the videos we show of scientists who aren’t just cis white men mention that they never saw themselves represented in science. As a queer woman in science I also relate to that feeling, and so many students have told me it’s the first time they’re seeing scientists who aren’t just cis white men too. So yeah, courses on diversity and inclusion help EVERY field.
As a wise man once said:
"Sticks and stones may break my bones; but words leave psychological wounds that never heal!" :D
My family has always said that if we stop fighting for progress we’ll backslide to what it used to be like and we can sadly see that now. So no we won’t stop fighting for progress because “it’s just enough”.
I am way earlier than I have ever been. Her idea of words don't hurt makes me wanna commit several felonies. I have narcissistic abuse syndrome, a form of cptsd specific to being in a long term relationship with a narcissist. In my case, it was my father, and almost entirely emotional abuse. I will never have a normal brain function because of that, words fucking hurt.
Due to my undiagnosed childhood autism, I was labeled "the troubled kid". I didn't do schoolwork outside of school, I would draw or read instead of taking notes and still do good on tests (they thought I was cheating), and i refused to do the pledge. I would sit and watch all the other kids chant. It always made me so uncomfortable. Now I am a queer (gender and sexuality) autistic adult and I'm still terrified of anyone with that mindless cult mentality that classrooms pushed on us from kindergarten.
Anytime someone says something like "in the LGBT" and not something more like "In the LGBT community" I always think it's kind of hilarious. It just sounds ridiculous?
Yeah, imagine if they did that with the words themselves and not use the acronym
“In the gay” “in the lesbian” “in the bi” “in the trans” “in the queer” ect…
It sounds so wrong lmao
@@Cyber_Dunes Yes! Like it's so funny I can't take it seriously?? Like what if you are part of like a fandom or sport or something, and people introduced/described you as "In the soccer" or "in the kpop". Like there's no way to take it seriously at all
@@Cyber_Dunes it's LGB that's it
it reminds me of when people call me "a nonbinary" or "a them" as if nonbinary people are a seperate species or something lmao
@@derekb4977 ?what lmao
not her dressing alternative but being conservative
In America, we get in trouble for not standing and placing our hands over our hearts while the pledge plays at school. Even if you're just not putting your hand over your heart, the teacher will call you out and tell you to do it properly.
Fun fact! It's been ruled that teachers can't force u! But ik that sometimes don't mean shit
@overlordfemto7523 "gave us everything" lmao we don't even have health care bro
@overlordfemto7523 triggered much lmao
@overlordfemto7523 ok snowflake
@overlordfemto7523 you're not fooling anyone, you clearly have a crush on faith
9:37 I just wanna add, words not only can be as damaging as physical pain but in most cases can be worse. words stick with you, forever. the person who said it may forget or apologize but the person who got told something offensive or mean isnt going to forget that and they’ll either be really hurt, or they’ll get a new insecurity. meanwhile, for physical violence, that only sticks with you for a little bit, of course this doesn’t mean always, because things like s/a, r@pe and longlasting conditions can be caused by physical, and those things certainly shouldn’t be cast aside, but we also have to understand that ANYTHING you do and say can be harmful even if your not meaning it to sound rude.
28:00 'America' was also founded bc Europeans wanted to make money from spices and goods from Asia but yeah... Just religion 🤔 definitely not destroying native populations for money
Her argument about how words are not the same as physical violence makes no sense to me. Hateful words are often the beginning and root of violence. Idk about you but when I (as a trans and queer person) hear a slur, whether it is directed at me or just said around me, I immediately associate it with violence. I am immediately scared for my well-being because I know it’s likely that people who use words to discriminate are usually the same people who are capable of being physically violent towards someone. This is how hate crimes start.
Sometimes I wonder why it took me until my 30s to identify as asexual/queer, and then I'm reminded very vividly. My dad likes to suggest he's tolerant, but last week we had a whole conversation on gay rights that convinced me he didn't see the bigger problem. We were talking about how a nearby city voted to not fly the rainbow flag in front of city hall and he claimed that it was fine because doing so would "exclude" everyone else. He was also not against flying the military flag because "they serve." I'm not sure what bothered me more, the rhetoric or that it was a lengthy conversation he seemed to want to win. I totally agree that words can be harmful because I don't feel comfortable discussing personal queerness in front of the man who last week also claimed that it bothered him that gay people "hijacked" (his word, not mine) the rainbow and now my dad is too self-conscious to buy/wear rainbow gear. Exclusion, hijacking... the words of a man I think may think he's an ally but doesn't understand what that term means.
I’m 19 and I didn’t realize I was Asexual and maybe aromantic until I was around 17. My family are super conservative and Christian. I am currently not out to them and I’m honestly not planning on coming out until I absolutely have to. So probably until I get to the marriage age. (That should be fun.) My mom usually lets me rant about my hardcore opinions but she just doesn’t get it at all. She thinks she does but she doesn’t. She is the type of women to brag about having a gay best friend. But the one thing she really doesn’t understand is trans people because “god doesn’t make mistakes” and all that. Me and my dad have a different relationship. He claims to fight for the underdog because he did it all through high school but he also refuses to think about what people are going through that are different then him. Like he thinks women get paid as much as men all the time. My dad and step mom constantly talk horrible about the trans and binary community specifically. I kept my mouth shut and refused to talk about my opinions because I knew it wouldn’t change their opinions. But 2 weeks ago I was in the car with my dad and we were at a McDonald’s drive thru. He then proceeded to tell me how when someone looks male he will make sure to say “mister” or “sir”. And that was so unbelievably petty of him. I just couldn’t keep my mouth shut anymore. I have always had respect for my dad. He knows a lot of things but there are also small instances where he gets things wrong about social issues but I don’t correct him because he is usually so right about things but this. He was so wrong about this. Every argument he was trying to make about binary and trans people was so unbelievably wrong. He literally said how it’s a mental illness. Like no. He was also so adamant in winning the argument. He would talk over me which was easy to do because I’m a naturally quite person and he wouldn’t even listen to a single thing I said. In all my 19 years of life I’ve never seen him act like that before. He was so stubborn and ignorant. I lost all respect for him that day.
I love how she cites the Pledge of Allegiance as an example of the US being founded on Christianity when the Pledge was written in the 1890s and the "under God" part wasn't added until the 1950s.
I mean, what even is there to say, there's nothing new in Gothix' hot takes, they're just repeating the same old conservative talking points. It's a shame those points are coming from a fellow goth, but that's not new either. I just wish people didn't act like being conservative was an act of rebellion, you saying it's fine for the boot to stay on your neck because you're tough enough to withstand, it isn't a flex.
“Those aren’t real doctors, those aren’t real scientists” absolutely slayed me
as someone who was bullied for 5 years in uk high school 11-16 for being trans and physically assaulted many times for being trans, the physical assaults hurt just as much as the words. the words were so constant but no one could really do anything to help but when it crossed into physical assault there was things teachers could do, the police got involved a few times. people who haven’t been severely bullied don’t understand the impact of hearing people tear you down every day for a core aspect of your identity. like i dont even talk about being trans very often but your gender is by default a massive part of your identity. i had no one during that time. every single day was constant negativity. i also had severe gender dysphoria so there was no break from any of it. it was only kind of okay when the people who physically assaulted me had to leave me alone because the police had told them i’m not pressing charges i just want them to please leave me alone. words DO hurt.
I was abused my while childhood. My sperm donor made me watch him beat my younger brother like a man. He talked to me so bad...threw things at me...but he didn't hit me. I have c-ptsd and that man can die alone.
"There are no pronouns in the Bible."
Literally God: "I AM WHO I AM"
Why do I sense that this person who claims words don't hurt you would lose her mind is someone called her cis? And even if we ignored the ways words absolutely do hurt people, those same words also inspire the very people who carry out distinctly physical attacks. None of this happens in a vacuum, and the words that hurt queer people often come back to hurt us again in the form of a fascist with a gun. And we are a collective. Not because we are or ought to be the same, but because in the eyes of those who would hurt us we are. Because we face common challenges and can best push back against them with common strength. Together with other queer people, and together with all the other people society would rather ignore.
Yeah don't call a born woman Cis. You're ascribing your own labels onto someone who never asked for it.
That, in your books, is assault because, apparently, words = violent.
Omg this girl, I can't... she is one of the worst..
She sure brings up the Bible a lot for a women who would be basically shunned by other Christians for her fashion. And I think they would think more women being in movies would be a little too whole for them.
I’m sorry, but she just sounds like a “pick me” 😂 that’s so embarrassing
I promise you she has her own unconscious biases she’s unaware of
As a mixed child my mom is Russian and she said a lot of racist and colorist things to me that I internalized growing up. ( I got weird about staying in the sun too long because she didn’t want me “too dark” 😢)
I really had to check myself.
And that’s ok. I learned. Didn’t mean I was a bad person, I just had to change the way I thought of things. ALSO, the whole talk in black community of “good hair”
Yea 🙃 healthy hair is good hair and I’m glad I learned that too! Which was easy cuz I actually started hearing darker women with tighter coils explain their experiences.
She’s disappointing because she seems incapable of learning.
Wannabe “goth” Candace owens for certain. Real “I’m not like the other girls!” Energy. “I’m one of the good ones uwu!”
@@lulub517 I'm not like those other girls/POC/alternative people! Diversity shouldn't exist, POC never experienced struggles, misogyny and sexism doesn't exist because I haven't experienced it!
@@lulub517 it's the fact that you think black women and Black people in general have to fit a certain mold and have to believe the "right" things in order for them to be actually black. You don't see how racist that is?
@@Jaesdaes I mean yall say racism towards white people doesn't exist because you have not seen it sooo
In 6th grade I actually listened to the words of the pledge of allegiance and I was like holy shart this is like propaganda 😭
They really had us pledging like our whole being to murica since kindergarten
The under god part bothered me before any of the patriotic stuff did because I was never indoctrinated into religion as a child (they go after kids because their brains are like clay and you can more easily make a 5yr old believe in magic than you can make an adult), so that always bothered me, and then around 4th or 5th grade was when I noticed the patriotic stuff was also really wild, then on I always sat out during it even if some teachers didn't like that
@@mrcattoonist4766 Fun fact, the "under God" part wasn't added to the pledge until 1954, to show that we were morally superior to the godless commies.
I usually omitted "under God" because I was rebellious like that. 😁
Same as the Woke movement.
Propaganda to divide.
“Love” how gothix completely ignores the fact that emotional trauma and pain exist
"words don't matter"
Tell me you were a bully in high school without telling me you were a bully...
"its just a word"....with a history of violence connected to it
You know what else is "just words" the constitution, the bill of rights, all laws, these are all "just words"
…..does this person not know what emotional damage is??
i just wanna say how nicely dyed your hair is, the side red and purple are around the same values so they don't distract or look unfashionably mismatched and the bangs being lighter and brighter is so cute, goes really well with all your colorful outfits!
My old catholic school used to make use do the pledge of allegiance every single morning. Even as a kid I thought it was creepy as hell and I never did it. The teachers would go around and make sure we were all actually doing it. I’d lip sync it every time cuz my little paranoid imagination made me think I’d turn into a jesus zombie if I did. (For some reason). So to this day I’ve never said the full pledge of allegiance.
How does someone become so unempathetic, so incapable of just looking at stuff with logic or looking at stuff with so much subconscious hate? Someone did not raise Gothix right, because it's straight up shameful how hateful of people who are different to her she is.
So hatred against a 'collective Patriarchy' is fine?
@@Cyb3rFck yes, it's play to hate patriarchy, because patriarchy is a consept, a form of cultural structure, not a group of people. Patriarchy has its flaws, it's okay to critisize it just like it's okay to critisize any form of leadership and cultural structure. Acknowledge what it does well, hate what it does poorly or what it does to harm people. Matriarchy would not fix any of the issues we have with patriarchy, because they're both about gender inequality, that one gender rules over others. It's okay to hate gender inequality, because again, that's not a group of people, that's an idea.
Words don’t matter until they affect you. People like this are so selfish. You don’t care if it hurts other people because it doesn’t affect you, until it does. Discrimination, whether its verbal, physical, or institutional- is still discrimination. And not caring about these slurs is forgetting a part of history. You learn from history, and by trying to forget it exists we cannot go further.
I listen to a wide variety of music and have accidentally sang that word not realizing it. Once I did it when a friend was Around who called me out now i am paying more attention to the words.
I was sitting here going, I’m white and haven’t really had any struggles with misogyny and lgbt phobia where I am, then I suddenly realise that’s because I’m just numb to it, and then she whacks me with the ‘non binary isn’t real’ and okay, ouch yeah, I am affected by these words
Anyway, amazing video!! Really well structured arguments and facts!!
And people used to think that Sun rotates around the Earth not the other way around
A new level of being self-centered
I remember about a year ago I decided to watch Gothix’s more popular videos just to challenge myself. You could say she at least TRIES to come off as someone who wants to think for themselves, (even if they aren’t) it’s more than other conservatives. I think shes just exposed to these beliefs and therefore has a pick-me sort of mindset. I hope she can get out of it soon ;-;
Jesus said "I am He" as a full sentence. If that's not someone telling you their preferred pronouns, I don't know what is. 😂
Trans masc here, i'm very feminine and it hurts me mentally. Whenever people assume that im a girl, it makes me feel invalid. Even though i'm fine with looking feminine, it still hurts.
Only clicked on this video because I thought your hair looked sick as hell and the video seemed promising, stayed because you're absolutely right and make a good entertaining video, subbed :D
What’s the tactic for? She says we use tactics ..but what’s the main goal ..they never seem to say what the goal is