PINCH Basic Functions | EDELRID
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- Опубликовано: 25 июн 2024
- Introducing the PINCH - an all-round brake-assisted belay device designed for indoor and outdoor sports climbing, as well as a descending device for rope access.
In this video Phil, Head of Product at EDELRID, walks you through the basic functions of PINCH that set it apart from other devices.
Chapters:
00:00 - 00:27: Introduction
00:28 - 01:01: Rope insertion
01:02 - 01:44: Direct harness attachment
01:45 - 02:31: Safety-related advantages
02:32 - 02:49: Using carabiners
02:50 - 03:09: Performing a partner-check
03:10 - 03:38: How to pay out rope
03:39 - 03:53: Left-hand usage
03:54 - 04:32: Lowering a climber
04:33 - 05:12: Anti-panic function with second braking unit
05:13 - 05:35: Conclusion
Uncover the versatility of the PINCH - a multi-purpose device with direct harness attachment, linear rope run through, additional braking rips, and a deactivatable anti-panic function.
For more information, including FAQs, visit our website: edelrid.com/int-en/sport/bela... 
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I learned nothing after those leggings came into shot.
I think we need to bring back the 80s lycra ... and the mullet while we're at it!
Cool! Where can I get the tiger legins??
A gri gri with an ejector button in case your climber yells at you too much for short roping them lol
ruclips.net/video/hpBRguSAJM4/видео.html
So seems you can only unlock it when it's not under tension in the system & and you have to turn the belay loop to the side or the Carabiner
Sorry I wanted this here: I dont get what problem people have here and everywhere I look with the opening mechanism. It is a cool option with some advantages, thats it. And if you don't like it, use the standard way with a carabiner... And you could even back it up when attached directly. How they say in so many videos: It is not about saving on the biner... And guess what: I can detach any device if I intent to while belaying. And there are Twist lock carabiners, Magnetrons, Sliders, etc. You choose how safe you want to go. Jesus, there are poeple still belaying with tubes and figure of eights because they have some advantages. What is this negativity all about!? Give me a break...
@@JannickTappe I agree with your points. I am sure edelrid wouldn’t produce an unsafe product. I use their ropes. I was just joking around 🙃
I look forward to the next generation, offering an additional anti-panic function when - out of panic - you mistakenly overwrite the anti-panic function after your first panic attack.
kudos on the constant iteration and innovation.
Did the guy lead climbing realize he was being filmed for this video?
Yeah that’s why he had the sick leggings
Cool device!
Having an option to deactivate the anti panic function sold me after unselling me with the function. As a left hander, will actually give a try as I like these active camming style devices for the breadth of ropes they work well with and some advantages bolting, cleaning, etc., but nothing is ever smooth and consistent enough pinching the device left handed.
Somewhat dubious how the direct connect will function, though.
Sehr cooles Gerät, villeich wechsel ich wenn ich mein aktuelles Gerät verliere
My question about clipping directly to the harness: Does this replace a screw or triple locking carabiner, with a single (big) button that would let the device loose? Or am I missing something?
ruclips.net/video/hpBRguSAJM4/видео.html
So seems you can only unlock it when it's not under tension in the system & and you have to turn the belay loop to the side or the Carabiner
I tested it and without a carabiner you can easily open de pinch while lead belaying. It doesn’t open when the rope is under tension. But when lead belaying there is no tension on the rope so someone who mishandles the pinch while paying out slack can easily unclip the entire device from the harness.
@@sterreduijf3463 yikes ....
How is it with short roping compared to a Grigri?
Yes. The side plate geometry does not allow an opening of the device under load. You can optionally use a carabiner as a backup using direct attachment method, or chose the conventional method using a locking carabiner. Of course, the device is field- and lab for both attachment methods.
Each of the methods can have its advantage, and since the PINCH offers both, it is up to the user to decide whether the direct attachment or the conventional method suits best.
some really novel additions to a cam style belay device. looks like the best implementation of an anti-panic handle i've seen, what with having an actual bypass vs the useless button on something like a petzl ID. and doesn't require buying a whole new device to disable it entirely.
not that I want the anti-panic on my own device, but I'd be less cranky when I'm forced to use them if they all worked like this.
nice gloves mate!
how do you prevent the device fron opening in case of direct connection to the harness? I mean, what if I press the button?
This is the one and only thing that I want to know, too. I know so far, it won't open if the cam is loaded, and that the direct connection can be backed up with an additional carabiner.
I thought same too. Need more explanations about that
Exactly. I kept thinking about that dang button...
check the shorts
I think Its quite hard to press and because the side plates connect in the middle, the Belay loop would block prevent accidental opening.
The winner is: the leopard leggings!!! 🤣🤣🤣
Looks pretty cool - i was gonna buy a grigri - i might wait for this one :)
The biggest innovation is that you can clip it to your belay loop without a carabiner but I'm not sure it is a big advantage. I disagree when you say in 2:26 that you gain 20-30cm when giving slack, rather you lose that extra length because when clipped with a carabiner you can push down the device and therefore increase the distance between your hands.
Most people hate antipanic, so it was a good Idea to propose two ways to override it.
Overall my opinion is that is just another grigri. CAMP made the Matik, the first to include anti-panic I believe. BEAL made the Birdie, the most simple and inexpensive version (my favourite). So it was time to EDELRID to came up with their own grigri.
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Looks nice Team Edelrid ! when will it be available ?
From early this year!
This seems like the first camming belay device, that offers some advantages over the Grigri. I'm very excited to test what the handling feels in practice. I feel like the direct connection is also a major advantage for jumaring, when you can get an additional carabiner length before hitting the jumar. What I'm concerned about and what I didn't catch in the video, is how you remove the pinch from your harness and how you prevent it from opening on accident.
Removing the PINCH is done in the reverse order of installing it to the harness. The opening mechanism requires a multiway action: swing open the side plate whilst pushing the button at the same time.
Furthermore, the geometry of the side plates prevents from accidently opening the device under load even if you manage to press the button. You can optionally use a carabiner as a backup using direct attachment method, or chose the conventional method using a locking carabiner.
Of course, the device is field- and lab for both attachment methods. Each of the methods can have its advantage, and since the PINCH offers both, it is up to the user to decide whether the direct attachment or the conventional method suits best.
Check out the above-video at minute 01:26 onwards. 🙂
Schöne Produktvorstellung/ Tutorial! Frage: Wie verhält sich das Gerät wenn beide Hände sich nicht am Pinch befinden oder zumindest, warum auch immer, sich die Bremshand nicht am Seil befindet? Findet trotzdem eine Blockierung statt? VG
Basierend auf ähnlichen Geräten würd ich schon davon ausgehen. In den meisten Situationen reicht das Seilgewicht als Widerstand aus. Die meisten sind halt vermutlich auch hier nicht alle.
We have one, and it's like Grigri on steroids. It's extra smooth, offering flexibility and accommodating both light and heavy users (with a difference of +25kg).Additionally, it is certified for rope access, ensuring it meets all necessary safety standards for professional use
Can you belay from above with it, also directly from the anchor without a locking carabiner?
at 14s you can see the Guide style top down belay with a locker
Yes! Check out our Multipitch Tutorial for the PINCH here: ruclips.net/video/rYgt2xXZchw/видео.html
wo gibts die leggins?
Ja zum Verschenken an jemanden den man nicht mag :-) Zum Abgewöhnen diese Dinger.
i guess the grigri patent became public domain.
Looks like a copy of a GriGri to me. I’m not sold on the soft shackle direct connect -iIt looks like one side swipe and the thing can become unhooked. If it ain’t locked it ain’t locked !!
Ressemble Tres fortement au grigri . Mais avec quelques fonctions en plus . A essayer. Ça doit être pas mal.
Welche Wette hat der liebe Daniel verloren? :D Danke für den Einsatz!
Does it have a lead mode like the grigri+ so you don't have to press the lever everytime?
It just functions like a regular grigri, the plus doesn't have a lead mode, it has a top rope mode and standard mode.
The PINCH behaves like the GriGri+ in lead mode. It does not have a Toprope-Mode.
@@edelrid thank you very much changed my mind on the whole product ngl
I was about to say "hard pass" because of the anti-panic mechanism, but the screw made this interesting to me.
I'm still not a fan of camming belay devices, but this is the closest I've ever been to considering one for route setting indoors and route development outdoors.
Does the cross-loading scenario (02:00) suggest that the holes through which the carabiner is inserted should be a little smaller so the screwgate won't go through? I suppose it's a difficult balance to be able to fit large HMSs etc though...
We recommend the Kiwi Triple as carabiner for the PINCH.
Carabiners that are less likely to get their locking mechanisms caught in the carabiner holes of the PINCH are preferable.
People were crazy about Eddie because the direction of the rope was opposite to that of Grigri. But will Finch follow Grigri's shortcomings again?
Praise the Lord!
Grigri with a nice big "quick drop" button right where you pinch to feed slack. 🤨
What about lead ropesoloing? Or at least Topropesoloing? Any use for that?
We are currently in the process of evaluating the PINCH for rope soloing.
For the current status, please refer to our user manual: avs.edelrid.com/images/attribut/54692_GAL_Pinch_ANSICHT_DINA4_Homepage.pdf
3:24 did that brake hand leave the rope?
I heard this is rated for lead rope soloing. Is this true?
We are currently in the process of evaluating the PINCH for rope soloing.
For the current status, please refer to our user manual: avs.edelrid.com/images/attribut/54692_GAL_Pinch_ANSICHT_DINA4_Homepage.pdf
Where can i buy one? (canada )
The Pinch is planned to be available in stores by end of the first quarter of 2024.
Can i use it for rope solo ?
The answer is yes. Siebhe climb solo this summer "El Pilar del Cantábrico" in the Urriellu
We are currently in the process of evaluating the PINCH for rope soloing.
For the current status, please refer to our user manual: avs.edelrid.com/images/attribut/54692_GAL_Pinch_ANSICHT_DINA4_Homepage.pdf
What’s the weight and are high wear areas steel?
Has the product been released? There's no way to buy it.
Depending on your location, it should be restocked at local retailers and online by this summer. 🙂
I won't have true confidence in something like this novel attachment method until channels like Hard Is Easy or HowNot2 get their hands on it and start testing it under less than ideal condition.
This attachment method is really cool, and I think it has the potential to be amazing, but part of me worries that it will have some flaw and we should wait for version 2.0 or some other company's imitation that addresses the concern. I really wish that there was some sort of two part mechanism instead of a single button that "shouldn't" be able to open up during use.
Other than the unique attachment method and it's ability to rorate by 90 degrees when hanging from an anchor (2/4 of which depend on thay attachment method), this does really little to differentiate it from a Grigri or other similar caming devices. And if that unconventional attachment method is anything less than 110% bomber, it will be a pass until it is.
Now, to Edelrid, if you want to earn some good will from the community, send some samples out to gear testing channels prior to release with no strings attached. If the product stands for itself in their tests, you will sell out of your first run. If not... well, you'll have gotten a head start on your redesign.
I wonder about anyone accidentally pressing the button to open the device while belaying.
The opening mechanism requires a multiway action: swing open the side plate whilst pushing the button at the same time. Furthermore, the geometry of the side plates prevents from accidentally opening the device under load even if you manage to press the button. You can optionally use a carabiner as a backup using direct attachment method, or chose the conventional method using a locking carabiner.
Of course, the device is field- and lab for both attachment methods. Each of the methods can have its advantage, and since the PINCH offers both, it is up to the user to decide whether the direct attachment or the conventional method suits best.
Check out the above-video at minute 01:26 onwards. 🙂
Anyone else see the belayer drop the rope at 1:23 ??!! am i seeing this right?
your mom called. she wants her tiger theme pyjama pants back!
Come on, they're cheetah!
Looks great, but come on, where's the twin rope version? THAT is a Grigri killer!
Giga Jul
Those pants
Bien ouej vous avez réinventé le grigri 😅
I dont get what problem people have here and everywhere I look with the opening mechanism. It is a cool option with some advantages, thats it. And if you don't like it, use the standard way with a carabiner... And you could even back it up when attached directly. How they say in so many videos: It is not about saving on the biner... And guess what: I can detach any device if I intent to while belaying. And there are Twist lock carabiners, Magnetrons, Sliders, etc. You choose how safe you want to go. Jesus, there are poeple still belaying with tubes and figure of eights because they have some advantages. What is this negativity all about!? Give me a break...
god bless you for this comment
I could only focus on the pants
Music is too loud
cool, but as indonesian i dont think i can afford it, too expensive
I think it would have been better to simply not integrate any anti panick system. It seems a bit hard to do the process to definitely deactivate it
It's just a screw, think you can handle it :)
Warum nicht in deutsch? Und das als deutscher Hersteller.. traurig
Congratulations, you guys have just invented a grigri. Moreover, it does not even cover the main grigri flow - it is still intuitive to disable autoblock with one hand, pull the slack with the upper hand, while letting go the lower hand.
The cool thing about the pinch is that its loads easier to unclip the belay device. Meaning you can abandon the climber almost instantly.
This is such a bad idea, i can't believe it made it past R&D
When did tights become appropriate for demonstrations? Maybe have your climber wear something less revealing next time. Why do I need to be exposed while watching a tutorial?
I hope this is a joke..
@@jodelboy this days you never know ;-)
I feel like this isn't a joke, but I guess you've never seen any climbing pictures from the 80s, or you are posting from the 1950s.
@@Aaron-xq6hv for sure they had no PINCH back in the days :-D