These videos have really helped me out. I picked up a 84 200s with a electric start engine for $150 and with little work got it going. And picked up a 200m parts bike with excellent fenders for $300. I've bought well over half a dozen different ones
Hard to beat the 200cc engine, that's why I stick with them, there fast enough to have a lot of fun, and wont break the bank to build and dead reliable, for a long time. Thank you for watching.
You’re absolutely right about location and value, where I’m at people want a fortune for something that been beaten to death, that 200es probably could’ve sold here for $1000 or more, my buddy dropped $5000 on an 86 350x with a chewed up head and got it fixed because it was worth it because there’s very few of those bike around here, it’s all about the value you see in it
You always have good advice for those of us wanting to preserve or fix up a old piece of history. I’m in the same boat… I want to save them all … and if they can’t be saved, part out so others can benefit.
Oh man, super bummed to hear about this. RUclips recommended your videos to me and I've been watching the whole set on your 84 big red. I was really hoping you'd end up replacing the forks and doing a DIY video on it. I have a 1984 Big Red that I paid way more money for than I should have, it's in amazing condition but I've been sweating bullets ever since I learned about the front forks not being repairable when they go.
I was wondering the same about the forks, just bought a 200es but the left fork is leaking and sagging can't believe someone hasn't built the parts to repair these
@@neversoftj1 Yeah I can't believe there isn't an aftermarket fix. Like @mrc_builds said in his model comparison video, there are supposed to be a lot of the ATC200ES out there and all of them are going to suffer from this problem eventually...
Bad luck, but a ton of good parts is alright. You mentioned the 250 R. There's one for sale locally to me in France and in pristine condition for 4,600 euros. My recently obtained 1985 200 ES is driving me nuts. Been stood for nine years and virtually everything was rusted solid. I haven't managed to get it running yet, but with your informative videos for reference I'm sure I'll get it sorted. Many thanks.
I was planning to use a 200E engine on the roller 200X frame that I picked up a while back myself. Other than notching the down tube on the front of the frame, some of the other guys on 3WW said that you also have to do some grinding on the frame by the swingarm pivot in order to clear the sub transmission. I decided to use the 200E for something else and put a 185 engine on there since I have a couple laying around. I thought I'd let you know about the sub trans clearance issue so that you'd be aware of this ahead of time.
Funny enough, I never had a go-kart as a kid. Once my brothers and I were old enough we learned how to ride on my fathers 82 185S. I didn't have anything decent of my own until my late teens and it was a clapped out Blaster that needed a top end rebuild. Once it was rebuilt and some worn out bushings were replaced it was a fun ripper. It also helped me learn how to drive a clutched bike. I bought an old beat-up Chinese dirt bike a couple of summers ago for $200 and found out the engine was strong and healthy. So even if the bike itself was junk I had a good engine because even the cheap clones go for $600. But I let a friend have it and he got it into rideable condition. We're going to see how much work it'll take to transplant the engine into a Suzuki DR250 frame. As for current project machines I have an 85 Kawasaki KLT 110 three wheeler that needs some tlc and I have an 81 Yamaha YZ 465 that needs to be rebuilt and put back together. I just need to get it home so I can make a parts list. I've just been busy with other stuff and also waiting for winter to go away. :)
@@Mrcbuilds No problem, I'm glad I found your videos. I didn't know some of Honda's top-ends were interchangeable until watching. Though the plans with the DR frame have changed the bikes original engine is toast. Funny enough I've had an easier time finding parts for my vintage YZ than I did finding parts for the DR. I have the original 465 jug and a YZ 490 jug, but I'm sticking with the original 465, supposedly the port timing is better than the 490. I'm going to give some VintCo parts a try for the stock bore and anything else I'll have to get from ebay. :)
out of every 200e and 200es 3 wheelers iv had the front suspension worked perfectly even though the whole 3 wheeler i totalled and boots ripped and whatnot
Hey jim, come on down here to the deep south if you like rusted relics. I have had no less than 15 200cc big reds and have never seen one work correctly. Lol
Nice 350x great vid dude and thanks for shedding some light on the buying selling and that the location of the bike determines its price like I'm in the north east a 1986 honda atc 250r goes for about 5000 bucks 80s atv's are making a come back and there are serious collectors the market is booming and I'm said collector myself I currently have a 200x I'm building and I just dropped 4500 bucks on a 86 250r from Washington state that's in rough shape but she's all there and she runs strong
The prices on them are crazy now, people with money to burn and wanting to relive their youth i guess. My 84 200ES i bought for $600, that was over ten years ago though, now they are $1500-2500 here, if they arent running a little cheaper, but running and even beat to crap ones go for $1000. I paid $600 for a 81 ATC200 last fall, and i traded an old cycle country plow for a 82 200E this winter. But those are the cheapest i have been able to get. Now they all start around $1k where i am.
No Sir , I do not believe so. There are a lot of hop up parts for a 200cc engine, you can make some pretty good power with one, and they will bolt right into your 200x chassis. Thanks for watching.
Thats the way i look at things too, break down the value of parts etc. I bought 2 200x's (83) and a (85) for a total of 2300 canadian. I dont know anyone else in my area with 200x's. i ended up getting a huge pile of spare parts too. some would say i paid too much some would say i scored big time. Hard to say because theres literally none coming up for sale. you scored on that 84 es. lots of good parts for the money you paid.
I like the 82/83 but I really think reverse is a great option on the trail and on the farm. You are correct about replacement cost of chains and sprockets
I don’t know if you’ll see this but would you by chance sell a hood handle bars? I’ve got a 84 big red like that one and need handle bars for it? Let me know, thanks
Ebay or join one of the big red forums on FB. Depending on how nice you wnat, i know a pair of NOS still in paper that just sold, so they are out there. Also watch market place and CL upu can buy a parts machine with fenders cheaper than buying just fenders.
what are you doing with the plastic off of it? I have one I bought last year that the motor and rear end are in good shape. The plastic, front hub/axle, and factory carb not so much.
I wonder if you could help me? I have an 84 Honda big red 200es. The exhaust is completely rotted out. Along with the header pipe. Do you know any aftermarket exhaust systems that actually work? I was looking at a couple things that may work but it's a gamble. Any help would be appreciated.
Sure thing Michael, Join a ATC group on facebook, or 3wheelerworld.com, go to the classifieds and search. DG makes a good one, not cheap, you can still find a used OE exhaust pretty reasonable priced. Thank you for watching
Hi Darren, the best place for parts is either join a ATC group on facebook or 3wheelerwold.com (classifieds) or ebay. If you can, buying a a parts bike that matches your bike is a very cost effective way to go also.
Yes you can use 185s,200,200s,200m front forks, on issue is you must use the 8in wheel with the 185s and 200s, the 200m and 200 have 9 in wheels like your 84 big red
These videos have really helped me out. I picked up a 84 200s with a electric start engine for $150 and with little work got it going. And picked up a 200m parts bike with excellent fenders for $300. I've bought well over half a dozen different ones
Hard to beat the 200cc engine, that's why I stick with them, there fast enough to have a lot of fun, and wont break the bank to build and dead reliable, for a long time. Thank you for watching.
You’re absolutely right about location and value, where I’m at people want a fortune for something that been beaten to death, that 200es probably could’ve sold here for $1000 or more, my buddy dropped $5000 on an 86 350x with a chewed up head and got it fixed because it was worth it because there’s very few of those bike around here, it’s all about the value you see in it
You always have good advice for those of us wanting to preserve or fix up a old piece of history. I’m in the same boat… I want to save them all … and if they can’t be saved, part out so others can benefit.
Thanks for the kind words and supporting the channel.
I loved my 3 wheelers as a kid, i had a 84ish 110 4low 4high, it was awesome, we had a 70, and a Kawasaki but don’t tell anybody lol
I have been riding Honda atc three wheelers for over thirty five years your channel is great.
Wow, thanks! I am really enjoying it too.
You are right. I bought a CL 100 motor with no compression for parts got the hole thing for what the kick start gear would have cost.
Sure have enjoyed your videos, very helpful. I've got 4 bikes 1986 Honda B. Red, 1985 Honda B. Red, 1984 Honda ATV 200S, 1983 Honda ATV 185S.
Great to hear! Sounds like you have a fine collection
Oh man, super bummed to hear about this. RUclips recommended your videos to me and I've been watching the whole set on your 84 big red. I was really hoping you'd end up replacing the forks and doing a DIY video on it. I have a 1984 Big Red that I paid way more money for than I should have, it's in amazing condition but I've been sweating bullets ever since I learned about the front forks not being repairable when they go.
FrayedString, dont sweet, I have just the project coming up for you.
I was wondering the same about the forks, just bought a 200es but the left fork is leaking and sagging can't believe someone hasn't built the parts to repair these
@@neversoftj1 Yeah I can't believe there isn't an aftermarket fix. Like @mrc_builds said in his model comparison video, there are supposed to be a lot of the ATC200ES out there and all of them are going to suffer from this problem eventually...
Man, loved the video. Keep it up!
Glad you enjoyed it!
it is still a nice find for 200, keep looking you'll find another 84
Bad luck, but a ton of good parts is alright. You mentioned the 250 R. There's one for sale locally to me in France and in pristine condition for 4,600 euros. My recently obtained 1985 200 ES is driving me nuts. Been stood for nine years and virtually everything was rusted solid. I haven't managed to get it running yet, but with your informative videos for reference I'm sure I'll get it sorted. Many thanks.
Hey Kevin. Thanks for watching, I am glad I could help out. The 200es is a great bike, Yes Sir, even busted bikes have value.
I was planning to use a 200E engine on the roller 200X frame that I picked up a while back myself. Other than notching the down tube on the front of the frame, some of the other guys on 3WW said that you also have to do some grinding on the frame by the swingarm pivot in order to clear the sub transmission. I decided to use the 200E for something else and put a 185 engine on there since I have a couple laying around. I thought I'd let you know about the sub trans clearance issue so that you'd be aware of this ahead of time.
Thanks for the heads up Jeremy. I will keep that in mind. I am really looking forward to that project.
Funny enough, I never had a go-kart as a kid. Once my brothers and I were old enough we learned how to ride on my fathers 82 185S. I didn't have anything decent of my own until my late teens and it was a clapped out Blaster that needed a top end rebuild. Once it was rebuilt and some worn out bushings were replaced it was a fun ripper. It also helped me learn how to drive a clutched bike.
I bought an old beat-up Chinese dirt bike a couple of summers ago for $200 and found out the engine was strong and healthy. So even if the bike itself was junk I had a good engine because even the cheap clones go for $600. But I let a friend have it and he got it into rideable condition. We're going to see how much work it'll take to transplant the engine into a Suzuki DR250 frame.
As for current project machines I have an 85 Kawasaki KLT 110 three wheeler that needs some tlc and I have an 81 Yamaha YZ 465 that needs to be rebuilt and put back together. I just need to get it home so I can make a parts list. I've just been busy with other stuff and also waiting for winter to go away. :)
Thanks for watching Slane, That DR250 is a good engine, the Yamaha YZ is a hard one to find. good luck on the project!
@@Mrcbuilds No problem, I'm glad I found your videos. I didn't know some of Honda's top-ends were interchangeable until watching. Though the plans with the DR frame have changed the bikes original engine is toast. Funny enough I've had an easier time finding parts for my vintage YZ than I did finding parts for the DR. I have the original 465 jug and a YZ 490 jug, but I'm sticking with the original 465, supposedly the port timing is better than the 490. I'm going to give some VintCo parts a try for the stock bore and anything else I'll have to get from ebay. :)
out of every 200e and 200es 3 wheelers iv had the front suspension worked perfectly even though the whole 3 wheeler i totalled and boots ripped and whatnot
Hey jim, come on down here to the deep south if you like rusted relics. I have had no less than 15 200cc big reds and have never seen one work correctly. Lol
Nice 350x great vid dude and thanks for shedding some light on the buying selling and that the location of the bike determines its price like I'm in the north east a 1986 honda atc 250r goes for about 5000 bucks 80s atv's are making a come back and there are serious collectors the market is booming and I'm said collector myself I currently have a 200x I'm building and I just dropped 4500 bucks on a 86 250r from Washington state that's in rough shape but she's all there and she runs strong
Any time! Thank you for watching.
It’s good stuff man, visiting your garage would be a toy store,,, I have 2 now 1980 110 , and 1985 200s but I have the sickness for 3-wheelers
Its funny, that's how it starts, in a year your garage will look like mine, Enjoy it!.
The prices on them are crazy now, people with money to burn and wanting to relive their youth i guess. My 84 200ES i bought for $600, that was over ten years ago though, now they are $1500-2500 here, if they arent running a little cheaper, but running and even beat to crap ones go for $1000. I paid $600 for a 81 ATC200 last fall, and i traded an old cycle country plow for a 82 200E this winter. But those are the cheapest i have been able to get. Now they all start around $1k where i am.
Can you take the shaft drive off a es and change to a chain drive for a 200x, i found a engine local
No Sir , I do not believe so. There are a lot of hop up parts for a 200cc engine, you can make some pretty good power with one, and they will bolt right into your 200x chassis. Thanks for watching.
@@Mrcbuilds i would not mind getting my 200x running, its missing a few parts here and there, what state do you live in?
I have a 200es that was my first bike an it’s so fun to ride it’s not in the best condition but it’s still awesome
Thats the way i look at things too, break down the value of parts etc. I bought 2 200x's (83) and a (85) for a total of 2300 canadian. I dont know anyone else in my area with 200x's. i ended up getting a huge pile of spare parts too. some would say i paid too much some would say i scored big time. Hard to say because theres literally none coming up for sale. you scored on that 84 es. lots of good parts for the money you paid.
Thanks, 506, I look at all of my bike purchases that way. Thanks for watching!
Would like to know how to remove the fuel filter out of a rusty gas tank on a 1984 ATC 200S?
Get a drill bit just big enough to grab it, drill into the filter slowly and it will pull the filter out
I'd take a "82 or "83 over the "84, chains and sprockets are cheap and easy to find.
I like the 82/83 but I really think reverse is a great option on the trail and on the farm. You are correct about replacement cost of chains and sprockets
I don’t know if you’ll see this but would you by chance sell a hood handle bars? I’ve got a 84 big red like that one and need handle bars for it? Let me know, thanks
Hey Cody, Yes I read and respond to every message, I have a pair of bars I can part with, message me on FB or Insta, and we can work something out.
Hey I’m rebuilding a 83 200E and have a hard time finding discontinued parts. What shop is your “go to” for hard to find parts?
New parts, partzilla.com or Amazon. Used parts ebay or online forums like FB or www.3wheelerworld.com
I'm looking for honda 1984 act back fenders/plastics . No luck
Ebay or join one of the big red forums on FB. Depending on how nice you wnat, i know a pair of NOS still in paper that just sold, so they are out there. Also watch market place and CL upu can buy a parts machine with fenders cheaper than buying just fenders.
what are you doing with the plastic off of it? I have one I bought last year that the motor and rear end are in good shape. The plastic, front hub/axle, and factory carb not so much.
These plastics, are going onto a 200m, Thanks for watching
@@Mrcbuilds you mentioned selling them so thought I would ask. Thanks for the reply.
good videos man!
Glad you like them!
I wonder if you could help me? I have an 84 Honda big red 200es.
The exhaust is completely rotted out. Along with the header pipe. Do you know any aftermarket exhaust systems that actually work?
I was looking at a couple things that may work but it's a gamble. Any help would be appreciated.
Sure thing Michael, Join a ATC group on facebook, or 3wheelerworld.com, go to the classifieds and search. DG makes a good one, not cheap, you can still find a used OE exhaust pretty reasonable priced. Thank you for watching
Got a 200s needing parts can you help me ?
Hi Darren, the best place for parts is either join a ATC group on facebook or 3wheelerwold.com (classifieds) or ebay. If you can, buying a a parts bike that matches your bike is a very cost effective way to go also.
I also have an 84 200es with a bad set of forks. Has anyone tried to use 200s folks?? I’d love to get my es back up and running
Yes you can use 185s,200,200s,200m front forks, on issue is you must use the 8in wheel with the 185s and 200s, the 200m and 200 have 9 in wheels like your 84 big red
@@Mrcbuilds thanks.. that’s great information..
Id love to buy it if it's for sale!
I still think I can save it! lol, I have 3 like this one now, I plan to make 1 out of them. Thanks for watching
An it was free I put a stator rebuild an a cdi an it runs
Great saved another one!
Does anyone here have a 1983 200e parts bike
Hi bob, yes I do, what do you need? PM me on FB or Instagram