No, but given the pedigree, they are not viewed as similar to the other Japanese sports cars of the time (MX5, S2000). So I guess it was just pointing out that they are still a valid option.
Timeless car. It’s got its credits from all these years as an enjoyable car with mountains of potential. High potential for performance, tons of after market suspension options, limitless cosmetics & aerodynamics. Makes sense why it has such a cult like following. I own an 04. The engine is pretty dated performance wise by today’s standards but never have I had a unenjoyable time driving it.
The Nissan 350z is not hated. This car sold extremely well in the US. It out performed the Mustang GT at the time definitely out handled it. And for the price for the performance at the time, it was one of the best values you could get, on the less expensive side of the corvette. If you wanted a car that could out perform it. You’d have to take a big step up in price to the corvette, which at 2003 dollars was 10 to 20k more. Porsche Boxter was slower than the 350z and more expensive than the corvette. You could almost get two 350z base models for a boxter s.
@@ResevoirGod yeah we have ruled the world ever since your island colony wanted independence from America. We'll take you back just bend the knee and kiss the ring.
it's sad bcs non-car people edit and manage this channel, they need to focus more on the cars, no raw sound clips, flybys covered with voice and shit music, this are the problems they need to solve
@@RazorSharp75426 couldn't hold an informative conversation for more than 15 seconds. Don't get me wrong I enjoy there videos on the channel but alot of it is just bable. Not really learning anything.
No one actually hates 350z's they just sound like shite when they're straight piped. And people used to spend $10-15k for "fbo" and not even make 300whp. But they're great cars. Look great. Drive great. Great transmission. Etc
@@JLiuTurboZ yeah vq's LOVE boost. I remember back in the day a guy had one fbo/internals supercharged making like 600. And had nitrous (wasn't used as far as I know). Thing was insane. Then there was a twin turbo one aswell. This is like in 07-08 when they were still pretty new.
10k ? What kind of parts are you putting on ? These could make 300 whp easily asperated no 03 to 06 needs 10k for cams and fbo aswell as 07 to 08's make 300+whp with exhaust, intakes and a tune I am not even 3k into mods and only need drop in cams to make 300+whp if I wanted to
I have a Z (06) and i'd say they're rated fairly these days. If anything they were a bit overrated when they came out. They're a big pudgy & heavy (somewhat underpowered for the weight they push depending on what trim and year) and really struggle with traction. However they were affordable, sexy, and easily modified into whatever car you wanted it to be - a jack of all trades master of none type deal.
I had one 10 years ago (podiumed National Solo2 championship with it) before selling it. I quickly regretted that decision. Got another one in mint condition last year and absolutely love it. Once people get their head around the fact the 350z is an inexpensive, honest, overbuilt, reliable, GT cruiser - they will truely appreciate it.
Weight is similar to a boxster but has way more power.... I never understood why people didnt like it. When theres so few affordable sports cars, it doesn't exactly encourage more manufacturers to make one when everyone criticizes it.
This video has just made me re-subscribe from since the old crew left, this guy is genuinely a good presenter, convinient that im literally debating on a 350z after going through a 130i, a GT86 and a megane rs250 cup, still think the gt86 will be the most fun but keen to see what the 350z is all about
"sluggish throttle response" I owned a 2005 350Z for about 10 Years and compared it to a lot of other Cars. But never would i have said that the throttle response is anything but very quick. Btw the car does even have a little shake when in neutral, because the Flywheel was made very light from Stock. And I liked the DE Motor the best even with its slightly lower Redline because it had the most Torque of all the 3 Engine generations.
Also in 2007 the auto industry as a whole adjusted the way HP and torque was measured which means that cars would be advertised with slightly less hp and torque than 2006 and prior. The HR makes more power and torque than the DE does too the wheels stock for stock on a dyno, its just that it doesn't appear that way in the marketing due to the way the industry changed how things were measured. The DE makes the least power and torque in the real world even if it might seem like it makes the most on paper.
@@SoyblackpowerI heard this comment over and over all through the years could you explain why there is only an 20hp difference between the de and hr on the SAME dyno and same measuring software for the dyno to read the hp ? Healthy DE makes 240 to 245whp stock and an hr makes 260 to 265whp stock
@@Ben_Z33 yeah in the real world an HR is making 20-30hp more than a DE stock for stock. And the HR is making more torque under the curve all through the rev range than the DE. The peak number might only be 25hp more but its making that throughout most of the rev range, on the street thats pretty significant. Also healthy DEs are making closer to 220-225whp stock and HRs closer to 255ish stock. With the standard bolt ons (not including longtube headers basically) a DE will make probably 270hp at the most and an HR will be touching 300whp at the most.
Also the stock tune sucks. Too much rehang, the heavy flywheel makes it worse but most of the hesitancy for the revs to drop is from the factory tune. I will do a few bolt ons on mine first before getting it retuned.
I Love the Nismo, I had the pleasure of having a little drive in that exact car around 10years ago at a place I used to work where it was stored along with the supercharged one which I got to see too! It’s nice to see the Nismo again brings back a good memory!
@@ResevoirGod well I found that the 350Z looks way cooler then the 370Z, it appears the driving sensation are better with the 350 even if it's heavier !! also the 350Z is cheaper. I know the 370Z is inherently a better car but I'm not looking for the better car, I'm looking for the one that fits me :)
What is this video even? Where are the masses of people disliking the 350Z, compared to all the people who at least, don't hate it? It's an icon for a lot of people and the most I've heard is people disliking the noise, which seems more like the engine (and whatever exhaust) than the car.
its a really good car. people hate it mainly for what the owners have done. here in the states it has a terrible reputation and the trumpet sound doesn't help.
Some of us hated our 350Z so much we never sold them. LoL! 20 years and the Z still puts a smile on my face. It was "The Run" that made me want to buy after seeing it at the auto show!
I don’t think it’s actually underrated considering how well it sold in the us. The thing about it that I do think is underrated is how much performance you get for the dollar. You get rwd, 300hp, and a manual for like $10k.
I know the comments section is saying these aren't hated but I agree with the presenter. This was always compared to the Boxster and came nowhere near in terms of sports car feels. It was more of a GT car and meant that it was universally marked down for that by journalists
@TIWNA851 True but it has a better badge than the 350z and anyone who has actually driven a boxster always beams afterwards and realises it has some things the 911 doesn't
@@samdurling6053 I do hear that a lot, but I still get flashbacks to my youth when me and my brother begged my father not to buy a Boxster S as we feared the ribbing from our mates 🫣 He thankfully listened 🤣
You should try an 07 or 08 model, with the improved more powerful higher reving VQ35HR Motor. With just intakes, exhaust and tune, my car makes 360 BHP . A completely different car, from the 3 you’ve driven,
Should have tested a HR 350Z for the stock version the HR is a much more free revving with higher redline at 7600rpm plus 306hp and 268tq over the base de only making 280hp but has 270tq I have had two G35's one with a DE and my current G35 sedan has the VQ35HR and it's a very different car to drive with the HR it feels smoother and pulls harder up higher in the rpms
Underground 2 made me want one since I was 4 or 5 years old, will never regret buying one when I got the chance. Mine has a lot of goodies and I enjoy it every time I drive it. For the price and aftermarket support for these, cant fault them!
Why do they never test an HR is these? 07-09 HR's had a 306hp engine with much less vibration and stronger/lighter internals with dual air intakes etc++. The VQ35HR is closer to a VQ37HR(370Z) than the DE motor's in all three of these. I must say that S-Tune is awesome though, if it's the one I think it is then it's for sale at the moment too. But the real top tier, non one-offs, 350Z's are the V3 Nismo and the 380RS. Also if you buy one for only £5k it will be in need of a lot of work!
As well as the nismo it's self is not that special either its an hr 350z with an aero kit and the "exstra stiffness" is essentially just some cross braces bolted to the chassis of the car so even if you got an 350 DE like me "the shitty one in everyone's eyes" you can buy the nismo bracing off the second hand jdm market and bolt it onto your car, one in the trunk and one close to the front of the car There was in in depth video of an guy showing where all the bracing bolts onto
The 350GTS is not a one off special. It was made by swiss company NOVIDEM and was turned down by Nissan because our japanese friends were against it. I worked for Novidem so i can report from pole position. What a pity
when the GTR came out I was working right next to a french tunning company and one of the worker had a 350Z completly gutted ! He told me the engine was stock (you can't change the power output on a used car in france) but everything else was custom and the car weighted around 1150 kg ! But no carpet, no aircon, nothing. he told me it was a nightmare in the summer and would not remove the AC if he had to do it again. But apparently he was beating 911 turbo on the track.
A stock Z could easily keep up with 911 and 911 Turbo on track even when they came out in 2003 …was in Car and Driver …the track performance comparisons
I love my 350z. Been to the ring a couple times, few brands hatch track days. Its a total bargain for the quality of car you get if you can deal with 2 seats. It always puts a smile of my face, it loves to be driven hard. I have the HR, solid as a rock, highly recommend one! (just dont straight pipe it).
Great car, had a stock revup. 5 years of playing on local NC500 potholed roads and it just shrugged it off. Off to auto trader I go. Great vid, thanks.
I've owned one of these years ago and have been lucky enough to own some very nice cars such as the e92 M3 and m240 ect. . . I don't have anything bad to say about the 350z, they are simple old school sports cars that drive nicely, handle well and have a nice meaty V6 N/A engine. These are the type of cars everyone will want if EV saturation becomes a reality.
Enjoyed the video, but can’t understand the title? The 350Z had nowhere near as much hate cast upon it as the TT or Z4. The Audi still carries the hairdresser stigma and the BMW is the modern day MGB GT, that….. let’s say the more mature person likes to take on Sunday drives and picnics. 🤷♂️
Where has all this 'hate' come fromr? They were raved about when launched and I was very tempted (test drove one along with the also recently launched RX8, but only my shallow ego steered me German side). These cars have always been considered highly, from the moment they came out.......... strange comment to hear, as even on the PH forums, the old 350Z still commands nothing but respect.
The 350z is definitely not the easiest car to drive in traffic, you can put a cheap throttle controller in to fix the laggy throttle and swap to a single mass flywheel, but you'll soon find there's a reason they use a dual mass flywheel as it dampens out a LOT of vibration. Still a fun car though and very reliable, just be careful of the gearbox synchros in the 2003-2004's and engine timing chain tensioners/guides (due to poor maintenance) cause they are both expensive to repair. They are a lot of fun on a country road, but for driving around in the city I'd pick something else. If I were to buy a Z it'd probably be the 370z, by then they had fixed all the problems in the 350z except the heavy clutch. The HR engines are bulletproof.
I own a 2005 Roadster had for 10 years 😍 it and agreed with your piece to camera they are heavy feeling and more a grand tourer. I am in the process of moving mine on as bought somthing else to replace it with different direction but even more fun I got to say but can't compare as 2 different cars in there own right.
This is true, the 3.5 DE is a grunt big torque engine. Till this day, it pushes harder than a 370z. It only lacks the Hi rev 7800 RPMs and HP. my 2003 DE on a dyno mustang puts down 240HP and 240 Tq.
It’s literally called a GT, grand tourer, a comfortable quick car for long drives. It’s supposed to be exactly as it is! 😅 The tuning potential is what turns it into a true sports car/racer!
Love my 350z.i honestly think it's better than my tuned 500hp f82 m4 in terms of how it drives feels more nimble and more responsive, but mine had a light flywheel and bc coilovers when I got it. If it wasn't for traffic and interior I would consider selling the m4 and daily my manual z.
Great handling car standard and even better modded. Weight lets it down and could have done with a bit more power. Apart from that its great on track as you can really throw it around the corners. Mines taken 3 years of abuse and its still going strong
I've owned it for 6 years. It was perfect except this past year where I feel like its either possessed by BMW Ghost or has turned to a BMW itself. It has become so unreliable and the engine has only 130K miles. Its nuts. I might sell it this month when a good offer comes
Don't recall it being hated - it was no lightweight .... but it felt engineered like a Porsche - heavy (in a good way) ... I nearly bought one when they first came out, and tried the Boxster, S2000, Z4 and Lotus Elise ... I went lightweight in the end with the Lotus .... and very nearly bought the amazing S2000 ..... Nothing against the Nissan though - was a competitive sector back in early 2000's .....
In real life that 350Z doesn't look that big timer like first time you saw 350Z on a drag race in 1st Underground pulling away like a MF and feeled like the most powerfull car even compared to R34.
NFS Underground 2 isn't the only game to feature the Z33 on the cover , Forza Motorsport 2 also did the same. They could've use a different, better car tbh. But noooooooooo
people just hate Z's because of cheap exhaust set ups where people go for volume over tone. i know people shit on tomei, the brand itself is solid the issue is that people get a straight pipe all the way back and slap the tomei muffler on instead of going full titanium all the way back
2007 350z owner chiming in from the US. For a performance car it used to be a cheap bargain, even years befor the pandemic. $5k got you a decent and low mileage 6 speed manual early model. Might burn a little oil, might have some small issues here and there but more desirable models like the 07-08 VQ35HR could be had for $10k. Bought my 07 6MT for $9k just as the pandemic hit. The reason for the hate isn't the car, it's the owners. The owners can be insufferable, with awful exhaust mods, questionable design choices and their on road manners. The 350z is also the sister to the Infiniti G35/ V35 Skyline, a car known in the takeover scene here in the US These owners are why im planning to keep my Z to an OE+ look and do proper mods, as it might be the last clean manua HRl 350z in my state.
I haven’t met people that hated it, but nearly everyone I meet that has had this and other sports cars as well have said it’s underwhelming by comparison.
It's not a Renault engine, that's just nonsense that Clarkson spouted and everyone repeated as gospel. The VQ engine series is 100% designed and made by Nissan in Japan. A detuned version was used in some Renault cars as part of the Renault-Nissan Alliance.
There is truth to that....too many of the owners are identity crisis losers thinking they're something they're not just from buying a Z and pressing the gas pedal...wow...you've accomplished much in life by doing what everyone other person does..spending money and pressing a pedal to drive.
The 350z is an amazing car the owners ruin it and I’m mainly talking about the Edgar’s and sadboyz who have ruined the platform by cutting the springs, straight piped them and take them to a take over and crash it and keep driving it clapped out.
These cars get hate due to majority of American owners doing dumb stuff with them not to mention it's also an toxic community as some owners with specific year models looking down upon others.... cough hr and nismo owners 👀
Who hates the 350 Z ? Ok, it was a bit heavy and the interior was a bit cheap, but hey, go buy a Porsche then ! Not the same price though... I know somebody who has a 350 Z, and it is a very nice car !
I seriously don't know anyone who hates the 350Z.
Edit: Dafuq? That's a lot of likes.
I do but they're stooopid anyway
No, but given the pedigree, they are not viewed as similar to the other Japanese sports cars of the time (MX5, S2000). So I guess it was just pointing out that they are still a valid option.
Americans don’t like 350Z, refer to weight and unattractive sound. To me it’s bs, my favourite 2000s car
@@aidarsharafullin6900 Yeah, I love the 350Z.
Me
The fact people are still talking about the 350z says it all 😊
Cult following, maybe. Some people used the car as platforms for drifting
People still talk about the reliant Robin ....
Timeless car. It’s got its credits from all these years as an enjoyable car with mountains of potential. High potential for performance, tons of after market suspension options, limitless cosmetics & aerodynamics. Makes sense why it has such a cult like following. I own an 04. The engine is pretty dated performance wise by today’s standards but never have I had a unenjoyable time driving it.
my favorite car oat
The movie Scarface bombed at the theaters on release weekend, but the movie is a cult classic today.
The Nissan 350z is not hated. This car sold extremely well in the US. It out performed the Mustang GT at the time definitely out handled it. And for the price for the performance at the time, it was one of the best values you could get, on the less expensive side of the corvette. If you wanted a car that could out perform it. You’d have to take a big step up in price to the corvette, which at 2003 dollars was 10 to 20k more.
Porsche Boxter was slower than the 350z and more expensive than the corvette. You could almost get two 350z base models for a boxter s.
Yeah, besides making fun of the exhaust note that certain exhaust systems give it (very trombone-like), I've never heard anyone hate on the 350.
It's the owners that get the hate, not the car.
We’re not in the US so most of your comment is entirely irrelevant
@@ResevoirGod Whatever we do, affects you, my little uropeen friend. You are at our mercy.
@@ResevoirGod yeah we have ruled the world ever since your island colony wanted independence from America. We'll take you back just bend the knee and kiss the ring.
10:59 “ listen to it “ - editor proceeds to put crappy music over the exhaust note 🤔🤦🏼♂️
it's sad bcs non-car people edit and manage this channel, they need to focus more on the cars, no raw sound clips, flybys covered with voice and shit music, this are the problems they need to solve
This presenter is actually kinda likable. Incredibly informative. Something car throttle never was.
They used to have Alex Kersten
@@RazorSharp75426 couldn't hold an informative conversation for more than 15 seconds. Don't get me wrong I enjoy there videos on the channel but alot of it is just bable. Not really learning anything.
@@anon7661 You watched the videos to "learn" stuff??
@@anon7661 Imagine watching old car throttle to be 'informed'
Totally agree
Me watching a video of three 350zs while having my three 350zs in my driveway😂
i miss mine so much, definitely getting another one!!
my dream car
No one actually hates 350z's they just sound like shite when they're straight piped. And people used to spend $10-15k for "fbo" and not even make 300whp. But they're great cars. Look great. Drive great. Great transmission. Etc
Come check mine out! Turbo, 500whp!
@@JLiuTurboZ yeah vq's LOVE boost. I remember back in the day a guy had one fbo/internals supercharged making like 600. And had nitrous (wasn't used as far as I know). Thing was insane.
Then there was a twin turbo one aswell. This is like in 07-08 when they were still pretty new.
10k ? What kind of parts are you putting on ? These could make 300 whp easily asperated no 03 to 06 needs 10k for cams and fbo aswell as 07 to 08's make 300+whp with exhaust, intakes and a tune I am not even 3k into mods and only need drop in cams to make 300+whp if I wanted to
What's "fbo"?
@@Daniel-cg1gr full bolt on
Bit of a waste having the Nismo and the turbo ones on here, should have had the RevUp and the HR versions of the 350z
Revup would not be worth mentioning and the Nismo has an HR motor
@@Soyblackpowerthat white “nismo” isn’t one of the 1600 they made 🤣 wrong year hood and headlights alone 😝
@@NotFrenzyy Just google 350z s-tune before saying shit...
@@NotFrenzyyS tune is the Japanese spec with insanely high performing parts, most better than normal Nismo
I have a Z (06) and i'd say they're rated fairly these days. If anything they were a bit overrated when they came out. They're a big pudgy & heavy (somewhat underpowered for the weight they push depending on what trim and year) and really struggle with traction. However they were affordable, sexy, and easily modified into whatever car you wanted it to be - a jack of all trades master of none type deal.
I had one 10 years ago (podiumed National Solo2 championship with it) before selling it. I quickly regretted that decision.
Got another one in mint condition last year and absolutely love it.
Once people get their head around the fact the 350z is an inexpensive, honest, overbuilt, reliable, GT cruiser - they will truely appreciate it.
Apart from Clarkson I don’t recall anyone saying anything bad about the 350z, mines on 154k miles and going strong.
Weight is similar to a boxster but has way more power....
I never understood why people didnt like it. When theres so few affordable sports cars, it doesn't exactly encourage more manufacturers to make one when everyone criticizes it.
I love these cars! Mines 2006, widebody and turbod!
Great video, love my two 350z's. Really would have liked to see you drive the HR in comparative to these three cars. Great video Car Throttle!!
07/08 HR would make that dude forget all about the S-Tune lol
I’ll watch in a minute, I gotta go top up the oil in my 350
Same
Lies. You have to go ask your mom if yiu can borrow the minivan to go halves on the latest Xbox game
@@locophoto6881wtf is your problem?
@@SBC2317 Probably a vw up owner
@@csbr75 he even liked his own comment
People are still talking about the 350Z after 20 years says a lot about the car
This video has just made me re-subscribe from since the old crew left, this guy is genuinely a good presenter, convinient that im literally debating on a 350z after going through a 130i, a GT86 and a megane rs250 cup, still think the gt86 will be the most fun but keen to see what the 350z is all about
The first time I watched this, I hadn't yet got my 350z. I now however, have a 350z. Its a fun car.
"sluggish throttle response" I owned a 2005 350Z for about 10 Years and compared it to a lot of other Cars. But never would i have said that the throttle response is anything but very quick. Btw the car does even have a little shake when in neutral, because the Flywheel was made very light from Stock. And I liked the DE Motor the best even with its slightly lower Redline because it had the most Torque of all the 3 Engine generations.
I wouldn't say the fly wheel is light stock. Its 30lbs and dual mass. Pretty heavy. I have a 13lb single mass in mine and its transformative
Also in 2007 the auto industry as a whole adjusted the way HP and torque was measured which means that cars would be advertised with slightly less hp and torque than 2006 and prior. The HR makes more power and torque than the DE does too the wheels stock for stock on a dyno, its just that it doesn't appear that way in the marketing due to the way the industry changed how things were measured. The DE makes the least power and torque in the real world even if it might seem like it makes the most on paper.
@@SoyblackpowerI heard this comment over and over all through the years could you explain why there is only an 20hp difference between the de and hr on the SAME dyno and same measuring software for the dyno to read the hp ? Healthy DE makes 240 to 245whp stock and an hr makes 260 to 265whp stock
@@Ben_Z33 yeah in the real world an HR is making 20-30hp more than a DE stock for stock. And the HR is making more torque under the curve all through the rev range than the DE. The peak number might only be 25hp more but its making that throughout most of the rev range, on the street thats pretty significant. Also healthy DEs are making closer to 220-225whp stock and HRs closer to 255ish stock. With the standard bolt ons (not including longtube headers basically) a DE will make probably 270hp at the most and an HR will be touching 300whp at the most.
Also the stock tune sucks. Too much rehang, the heavy flywheel makes it worse but most of the hesitancy for the revs to drop is from the factory tune. I will do a few bolt ons on mine first before getting it retuned.
I Love the Nismo, I had the pleasure of having a little drive in that exact car around 10years ago at a place I used to work where it was stored along with the supercharged one which I got to see too! It’s nice to see the Nismo again brings back a good memory!
My brother just bought a 370z and man, this is such a great car.
This is one of my dream car, enought power, great handling and cool styling. Oh and the engine makes a decent noise.
Why would this be your dream car over the 370z out of interest?
@@ResevoirGod well I found that the 350Z looks way cooler then the 370Z, it appears the driving sensation are better with the 350 even if it's heavier !! also the 350Z is cheaper. I know the 370Z is inherently a better car but I'm not looking for the better car, I'm looking for the one that fits me :)
What is this video even? Where are the masses of people disliking the 350Z, compared to all the people who at least, don't hate it? It's an icon for a lot of people and the most I've heard is people disliking the noise, which seems more like the engine (and whatever exhaust) than the car.
its a really good car. people hate it mainly for what the owners have done. here in the states it has a terrible reputation and the trumpet sound doesn't help.
Had mine for 17 years and had no issue what so ever 👌 great fun car and still turns heads today
Is it really hated, though?
As a former VQ owner, yes. VQ's are the Nickelback of the car world. They are hated, but mainly because it's trendy to hate them.
@@thecarparty639 The trumpet VQ is hated, but not the rest of the car
@@Tomekkplkonly sound like trumpets when people take a saw and fit a straight pipe exhausts
@@Tomekkplk350z is actually pretty quiet car stock
Sir. People still love this car til this day
Some of us hated our 350Z so much we never sold them. LoL! 20 years and the Z still puts a smile on my face. It was "The Run" that made me want to buy after seeing it at the auto show!
I remember a buddy had one about 10 yrs ago, and it shut a lot of haters up... great car
The black 350z would be what’s known as a ‘rev up’ DE as it’s a 55 plate. So not 276hp but 296hp with an extra 500 rpm to use 👍
I don’t think it’s actually underrated considering how well it sold in the us. The thing about it that I do think is underrated is how much performance you get for the dollar. You get rwd, 300hp, and a manual for like $10k.
I know the comments section is saying these aren't hated but I agree with the presenter. This was always compared to the Boxster and came nowhere near in terms of sports car feels. It was more of a GT car and meant that it was universally marked down for that by journalists
The problem the Boxster had and still does have to a reason is that it’s considered a poor man’s 911.
@TIWNA851 True but it has a better badge than the 350z and anyone who has actually driven a boxster always beams afterwards and realises it has some things the 911 doesn't
@@samdurling6053 I do hear that a lot, but I still get flashbacks to my youth when me and my brother begged my father not to buy a Boxster S as we feared the ribbing from our mates 🫣 He thankfully listened 🤣
Bought my first 350z HR 4 month ago and making it in the best entry drift car
Jesus I've never seen a Z interior as clean as the first one, in my favorite interior color too. I love these cars so much
You should try an 07 or 08 model, with the improved more powerful higher reving VQ35HR Motor. With just intakes, exhaust and tune, my car makes 360 BHP . A completely different car, from the 3 you’ve driven,
Should have tested a HR 350Z for the stock version the HR is a much more free revving with higher redline at 7600rpm plus 306hp and 268tq over the base de only making 280hp but has 270tq I have had two G35's one with a DE and my current G35 sedan has the VQ35HR and it's a very different car to drive with the HR it feels smoother and pulls harder up higher in the rpms
DE's are much more common in the UK vs the HR. 5775 DE's sold vs 1507 HR's sold and 3091 of them are still registered.
Underground 2 made me want one since I was 4 or 5 years old, will never regret buying one when I got the chance. Mine has a lot of goodies and I enjoy it every time I drive it. For the price and aftermarket support for these, cant fault them!
I know for a fact that 350Z Nismo is not the only one in the country. I drive one at Castle Coombe today.
Why do they never test an HR is these? 07-09 HR's had a 306hp engine with much less vibration and stronger/lighter internals with dual air intakes etc++. The VQ35HR is closer to a VQ37HR(370Z) than the DE motor's in all three of these. I must say that S-Tune is awesome though, if it's the one I think it is then it's for sale at the moment too. But the real top tier, non one-offs, 350Z's are the V3 Nismo and the 380RS. Also if you buy one for only £5k it will be in need of a lot of work!
As well as the nismo it's self is not that special either its an hr 350z with an aero kit and the "exstra stiffness" is essentially just some cross braces bolted to the chassis of the car so even if you got an 350 DE like me "the shitty one in everyone's eyes" you can buy the nismo bracing off the second hand jdm market and bolt it onto your car, one in the trunk and one close to the front of the car
There was in in depth video of an guy showing where all the bracing bolts onto
@@Ben_Z33 it's not just bolt ons with the NISMO that give it extra stiffness, it's welded differently too (I don't know the detail on what though).
How do you make a supercharger switchable? Does it disconnect the input shaft?
This is what I was wondering
Aisin ,ac type. Look it up
@@rhys180606 thanks!
It’s a shame about CT used to be such a good channel. But this guy is a breath of fresh air! 👍🏼
I don’t think ppl understand how rare the S tune Nismo and R tunes are! Sweet car man! I love my 05 ❤
The 350GTS is not a one off special. It was made by swiss company NOVIDEM and was turned down by Nissan because our japanese friends were against it. I worked for Novidem so i can report from pole position. What a pity
when the GTR came out I was working right next to a french tunning company and one of the worker had a 350Z completly gutted ! He told me the engine was stock (you can't change the power output on a used car in france) but everything else was custom and the car weighted around 1150 kg ! But no carpet, no aircon, nothing. he told me it was a nightmare in the summer and would not remove the AC if he had to do it again. But apparently he was beating 911 turbo on the track.
A stock Z could easily keep up with 911 and 911 Turbo on track even when they came out in 2003 …was in Car and Driver …the track performance comparisons
I love my 350z. Been to the ring a couple times, few brands hatch track days. Its a total bargain for the quality of car you get if you can deal with 2 seats. It always puts a smile of my face, it loves to be driven hard. I have the HR, solid as a rock, highly recommend one! (just dont straight pipe it).
Just got home and after watching this video, ima go for a joy ride
Once the drifters get more 350z in their hands there will not be any left.
Great car, had a stock revup. 5 years of playing on local NC500 potholed roads and it just shrugged it off. Off to auto trader I go.
Great vid, thanks.
always wanted a Z glad to own one as a first car
I've owned one of these years ago and have been lucky enough to own some very nice cars such as the e92 M3 and m240 ect. . . I don't have anything bad to say about the 350z, they are simple old school sports cars that drive nicely, handle well and have a nice meaty V6 N/A engine. These are the type of cars everyone will want if EV saturation becomes a reality.
Always a DE never an HR in these tests haha
I never heard anyone hate on Z‘s. :D I love them
Engine is a bit less rev happy than my GR86, but it drives and drifts great. 😎
0:15 no Alex. It's riders on the storm
true... that one was from the NFS:Underground1
It's both🤷🏽♂️ underground 1 was get low and underground 2 was riders on the storm
Cant help but notice colour of the seat leather that was so beautifully depicted is almost identical to the yellow in the car throttle logo. Lol
The same with Mazda RX-8s and ZZ Celicas. And BMW Supras.
I mean RX8's have more engine failures then any other car in history.
Enjoyed the video, but can’t understand the title? The 350Z had nowhere near as much hate cast upon it as the TT or Z4. The Audi still carries the hairdresser stigma and the BMW is the modern day MGB GT, that….. let’s say the more mature person likes to take on Sunday drives and picnics. 🤷♂️
I wanted one of these so badly when they came out.
Where has all this 'hate' come fromr? They were raved about when launched and I was very tempted (test drove one along with the also recently launched RX8, but only my shallow ego steered me German side). These cars have always been considered highly, from the moment they came out.......... strange comment to hear, as even on the PH forums, the old 350Z still commands nothing but respect.
The added music over the exhaust really dampens the vibe.
I think you're missing the point here they don't hate the z but dumb one owning that z. Same reason some people hate the mopar dude here in us
The 350z is definitely not the easiest car to drive in traffic, you can put a cheap throttle controller in to fix the laggy throttle and swap to a single mass flywheel, but you'll soon find there's a reason they use a dual mass flywheel as it dampens out a LOT of vibration. Still a fun car though and very reliable, just be careful of the gearbox synchros in the 2003-2004's and engine timing chain tensioners/guides (due to poor maintenance) cause they are both expensive to repair.
They are a lot of fun on a country road, but for driving around in the city I'd pick something else. If I were to buy a Z it'd probably be the 370z, by then they had fixed all the problems in the 350z except the heavy clutch. The HR engines are bulletproof.
I own a 2005 Roadster had for 10 years 😍 it and agreed with your piece to camera they are heavy feeling and more a grand tourer.
I am in the process of moving mine on as bought somthing else to replace it with different direction but even more fun I got to say but can't compare as 2 different cars in there own right.
Good car to look at. Presenter seems good too 👍🏼
This is true, the 3.5 DE is a grunt big torque engine. Till this day, it pushes harder than a 370z. It only lacks the Hi rev 7800 RPMs and HP.
my 2003 DE on a dyno mustang puts down 240HP and 240 Tq.
Best car that I’ve owned. Unfortunately, an old lady totaled mine and they’re all clapped out now.
It’s literally called a GT, grand tourer, a comfortable quick car for long drives. It’s supposed to be exactly as it is! 😅
The tuning potential is what turns it into a true sports car/racer!
Nobody realizing that they got clickbaited.
I absolutely loved mine. And it gave me very little trouble. Other than an annoying knock that I could never track down
Love my 350z.i honestly think it's better than my tuned 500hp f82 m4 in terms of how it drives feels more nimble and more responsive, but mine had a light flywheel and bc coilovers when I got it. If it wasn't for traffic and interior I would consider selling the m4 and daily my manual z.
Great handling car standard and even better modded. Weight lets it down and could have done with a bit more power.
Apart from that its great on track as you can really throw it around the corners.
Mines taken 3 years of abuse and its still going strong
I've owned it for 6 years. It was perfect except this past year where I feel like its either possessed by BMW Ghost or has turned to a BMW itself. It has become so unreliable and the engine has only 130K miles. Its nuts. I might sell it this month when a good offer comes
Don't recall it being hated - it was no lightweight .... but it felt engineered like a Porsche - heavy (in a good way) ... I nearly bought one when they first came out, and tried the Boxster, S2000, Z4 and Lotus Elise ... I went lightweight in the end with the Lotus .... and very nearly bought the amazing S2000 ..... Nothing against the Nissan though - was a competitive sector back in early 2000's .....
had 2 of them and a 370, my second 350z had 428 horses and was fun as hell. All came from copart
A lot of the people hating on the 350Z, has never driven one! -just the way it is today..
In real life that 350Z doesn't look that big timer like first time you saw 350Z on a drag race in 1st Underground pulling away like a MF and feeled like the most powerfull car even compared to R34.
The fella in the back clearly isn't keen on dogs. 😂
Good show Alex
NFS Underground 2 isn't the only game to feature the Z33 on the cover , Forza Motorsport 2 also did the same. They could've use a different, better car tbh. But noooooooooo
people just hate Z's because of cheap exhaust set ups where people go for volume over tone. i know people shit on tomei, the brand itself is solid the issue is that people get a straight pipe all the way back and slap the tomei muffler on instead of going full titanium all the way back
2007 350z owner chiming in from the US. For a performance car it used to be a cheap bargain, even years befor the pandemic. $5k got you a decent and low mileage 6 speed manual early model. Might burn a little oil, might have some small issues here and there but more desirable models like the 07-08 VQ35HR could be had for $10k. Bought my 07 6MT for $9k just as the pandemic hit.
The reason for the hate isn't the car, it's the owners. The owners can be insufferable, with awful exhaust mods, questionable design choices and their on road manners. The 350z is also the sister to the Infiniti G35/ V35 Skyline, a car known in the takeover scene here in the US
These owners are why im planning to keep my Z to an OE+ look and do proper mods, as it might be the last clean manua HRl 350z in my state.
Stock 350z will be very desirable when the clapped out ones are crushed in the junk yards. I'd give it 7-10 years
Hmmm does a Nissan gtr engine fit in a 350z? Since both are v6?
Too much fabrication, better to just build the motor and toss a turbo in it, I beat a few r35 gtr in rolling races
I love this car❤
What hate? It's awesome and most people like it, even though it's not a perfect sportscar by any means.
Petrolheads hated it, Airheads loved it
I never met someone that hates this car?
Agreed, have they changed the description now to 'underrated'
I haven’t met people that hated it, but nearly everyone I meet that has had this and other sports cars as well have said it’s underwhelming by comparison.
@@Ochtone fair
It would’ve been nice to have a Turbo build on there as well
I almost got one of these instead of my Mustang. It was just harder to get financing for it saddly
People disliked it due to having a Renault engine.
It's not a Renault engine, that's just nonsense that Clarkson spouted and everyone repeated as gospel. The VQ engine series is 100% designed and made by Nissan in Japan. A detuned version was used in some Renault cars as part of the Renault-Nissan Alliance.
we dont hate the car just the owners ESPECIALLY here in the US. IYKYK
There is truth to that....too many of the owners are identity crisis losers thinking they're something they're not just from buying a Z and pressing the gas pedal...wow...you've accomplished much in life by doing what everyone other person does..spending money and pressing a pedal to drive.
Love my 2008 Nismo..
From reading some comments i realise its not hated and dare i say loved and am a proud owner 😂 nsf, marvel intro and movies tokyo drift
3 million subscribers and barely getting 25k views after 5 days! Damn😢
Best car I've owned, the 370z on the other hand was a bitter disappointment.
I don't think the 350z was ever hated.
The 350z is an amazing car the owners ruin it and I’m mainly talking about the Edgar’s and sadboyz who have ruined the platform by cutting the springs, straight piped them and take them to a take over and crash it and keep driving it clapped out.
"It feels like a grand tourer" he says about the 350z....GT....
Hate? She's a little thick, but we love her anyways, as far as I'm aware
These cars get hate due to majority of American owners doing dumb stuff with them not to mention it's also an toxic community as some owners with specific year models looking down upon others.... cough hr and nismo owners 👀
4,500 miles is insane
in nfs underground it was quite loved actually.
miata was the best handling wise and maybe also the nissan gtr.
the 350z was a bit twitchy
Who hates the 350 Z ? Ok, it was a bit heavy and the interior was a bit cheap, but hey, go buy a Porsche then ! Not the same price though... I know somebody who has a 350 Z, and it is a very nice car !