(old video) Cold Start! 6Hp Sandow Hit and Miss Engine #2
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- Опубликовано: 23 мар 2019
- She runs like a top!
there is a newer video of this same engine on my channel now
here • Another Cold Start! 6H...
forgot to upload it last week so ill upload it this week. last cold start before winter ended. this is the second year I've filmed starting it. better camera and better editing to make a more enjoyable video. with a few twists in the whole thing. Hope you enjoy!
the engine is a 6HP sandow hit and miss engine. 
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Very good video and sound ! Byg like Man 👍 Nice engine !
Better than a parade😇. Great camera coverage.
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Back in 56 there was an old man at the end of my road who wasn't on the grid, was still using kerosene lamps when I first met him and a dry cell battery powered radio in the living room. Outside in a shed was an old hit or miss engine hooked up to an open frame D.C. Generator. I asked why he didn't use it and his reply was my pappy would keep my bottom warm if I touched it so I don't touch it. I asked where his dad was and he looked a long time and finally said he passed away four years ago. So the responsibility for the engine falls to you then. After near ten minutes he asked ever run a hit or miss engine? Nope. Come on I'll teach ya how to care and run her.
Took us near 4 hours until he looked at it for the thousandth time and and quietly said " you dummy" .
I thought he was talking to me until he said no, that was me talking to myself. The magneto had a lever that flipped up and I was told it was a long ago repair his dad did to get her going again and when he pointed it out we had been trying to start her without the magneto firing once! He dropped the lever into position and several turns of the flywheel and off she went with a loud bang and a lot of smoke. It settled down after a bit then he threw the flat belt over the pulley for the generator and up came the light bulb in the shed! There were 2 old 6 volt car batteries off to one side and he said they charged up and ran the lights at night, i from hanging around a local Gulf station knew how to remove the caps to check the acid level and they were low so I added water from the well to bring them up to the ring in each cell and after he turned on the generator the old meters read 8 volts and showed a charging rate of 12 amps. The engine settled down to a nice bang, bang, bang on every other revolution and then his wife showed up at the door and said " the lights on in the kitchen! ".
An hour later over a slice of chocolate cake and a glass of milk his wife said they hadn't had electricity since his dad died as he refused to touch it then asked what did you say to get him to start it? When I told her she laughed and said if I knew it was that easy I'd have said it 4 years ago.
I'd visit every day in the summer to oil and grease her up before he started her. He lost his wife in 58 and he finally passed in 86.
Every time I visited from that first day I learned something about farming animal husbandry how to store ice so it lasted till the following winter. Everybody in town ignored him saying he was just an old crackpot because they stuck to the old ways and when electricity was run down their road in 47 they refused the offer to hook up when they found out how much money it would be a month. They were quoted $3.00 a month and his dad refused saying that will buy a lot of kerosene to run my generator for 5 months. Kerosene was in 56 7 cents a gallon and was delivered by a tanker truck to the 2 55 gallon barrels they stored it in. The hit or miss engine used roughly one gallon of fuel every 2 days. He only ran the engine 4 hours a day to charge the batteries. What surprised me was the date on the batteries, AC Delco October 1938.
He finally bought a new set of batteries in the summer of 57.
I haven't thought of that old couple in years, funny how an old hit or miss engine brings back the memories.
Cheers!
Cool story.
That’s a beauty story! Thanks! 🍺
Thank you for sharing that with us!!! God bless ya man. Every young feller should have an old man in his life who teaches him things.
Thanks for this 🤗🌲🌲
Cheers
Olympia WA
That was a fantastic read!
Hit and miss engines have to be the best sounding engines ever, they all have their unique song that they play and this ones a beauty!
When I was in my early 20s I lived in a tiny dying town called Roxbury KS. There were oil wells all around the town. And at night we could hear the hit and miss engines on the pumpjacks. I would drive out and watch them for hours. I love it. And GOD bless you brother!
I grew up in SE Oklahoma, the engines on the oil wells ran continuously 24-7. It was a sound I was born to.
Damn, all along, I thought that was a girl...
Okay indeed! no commentary needed, the engine took care of that. Great video, engine oozes it history, and the operator sure knows how to coax her along. Fantastic....
I love all the comments from folks who know nothing about these engines telling you what you do 😎
Northern Michigan ATV/UTV/MC/SNO how do you know thay know nothing!!
We can all learn from others.
Strange......people just assume that other people know nothing. And think that this is a fact!
Eeer......how do THEY know that!
Well, lets not be completely negative, and declare all of the uneducated comments false.
Truthfully speaking, they seem to be hit or miss.
Not being a dentist, i still know more about dentistry than about starting this machine. Having said that, i'd be tempted to figure out where all the controls and levers, etcetra need to be at to get her to start and run, and then put in just enough fuel to run until i wanted her to stop. Run it out of fuel and next time just add enough fuel and crank'er over till she starts and runs with out all the readjustments and fiddle-faddling about ...
I need to dig mine out and get her going. Such a soothing experience to be around old critters
Excellent video, thank you for putting it up. I appreciate the rawness of just the mechanical sounds.
Learned a fair amount in watching you set it up.
Love it....best part is the barn cats wandering around completely unbothered by the noise or activity!
Fantastic video like to see people trying to keep these hit and miss engines alive
I would put that engine in my bedroom and sleep like a baby to that sound.
What a neat old engine. Thanks for sharing.
Young lady knows her way around the old machine. Good job
The health and safety people would have a field day with this nowadays.....
What a fantastic old engine, full of character.....
Ohhh that beautiful old engine hit & miss sound great work engine that never die can go over 1,000 years or more.... Good ol' live old engine that beauty... well done keep look after the engine forever on ur next generation well look after good old engine... Good luck enjoy love old engine
Nice perseverance. Maybe next time fill the grease cups on the mains, then put some oil in the cylinder oiler too! You know your way around old stuff, like it wasn't delatching. Neat motor, I have a Stover hit of miss rig with a big beautiful Webster on it, all black and gold.
Great video!!!!!
You show a lot of knowledge about the old engine for such a young man . Hope we have more young men that understand mechanical things as you do. Thanks for the video.
wow, that calls old is gold. thanks for your video
Outstanding job keeping this old engine running!
ahhh . that's beautiful as is .
i could fall asleep listening to a hit n miss run because it's music to my ears .
Another spring on that flyweight would help it run better at idle.
Pretty cool video! I love these old engines, subscribed. Thanks! 🍺 cheers from Maple Ridge BC
Great job.I like watching the starting and the brains of my outfit (my wife) loves your cats!
Old flywheelers are so cool!
That engine's rhythm is mesmerizing!
Looks like something Roy Comstock would come up with and have the stuff on hand to make it.
Love to find an old gas pump like the one you have sitting they are rare around here
👍👍👍👍👍 enjoyed it fixing to buy my first one of these
I love your hit and miss engine!
Thank you!
It's alive! Breathing!
Really enjoy this style of engine sounds so much better than the ones now
Oddly satisfying to listen to and see this engine in action. Great video!
the sound is so pleasing
In cold weather we always heated some water and poured it in the hopper, seems to warm the cylinder up making starting easier, well at least it worked for me. Love your engine, your very fortunate to own a beauty like that! Thanks for sharing!
you would want to be carefull doing that because to hot of water on cold iron makes it crack and break otherwise yeah it helps alot when done right
@@cruddycornstalks yes, warm, not hot, you are right about cracking, there ain't a worst sound then cast iron cracking on something you love! Lol!
nice to see a woman that knows how to run an old hit or miss
Well done you persevere brill sound thank you.
Easier than getting me going in the morning. Easy to see how it got its name.
I uesd to use one of those when I was a kid to put rice coal in a silo that belonged to Wally Korts. It started a lot easer than that I was onlly 14-15 years old and was hauling coal from Keyser ave by Scranton Pa . I was driving LJ Mack with 16 foot dump trailer. Didn't get a license till I was 16. Those were the days. God Bless America
Same
Absolutely fascinating ! Wish I had one of these. That tiddly-donk-tick-tick is very hypnotic. Enyoyable, relaxing video, thanks.
Love those auld engines!
Am I crazy? I want to own one of these things just for the purpose of firing it up in the morning and listening to it while I enjoy my coffee. I can't explain it to y'all just the puttering of an old babbit-pounder is music to my ears.
Their sound is amazing. 😍😍
@ 2:22 I see your "supervisor" arrived to keep an eye on you, he has the best fur coat.
A delightful video, thank you for sharing it with us! You’ve got a new subscriber!!
Nice video!! Thanks for sharing.... A.E.V. 😊
I just love old hit and miss engines, but they run and sound much better with a little load on them.
They are pretty uncommon here, as the hotbulb diesels was more popular here (and I love those too)
I would love to have one in the yard to start up once in a while, maybe power a saw and a woodchopper just for fun.
Fuel bowls have been around for over a century now and we have yet to invent a gasket that works reliably on them.
it would hold up better if it wasnt taken off to make sure water didnt sit in it all year. otherwise cork works well.
cruddycornstalks I have a ‘85 Evinrude 2hp that had a cork float. I was going to restore it but, was told they were dipped in lacquer and the ethanol will eat it up and it won’t work so I replaced it with a new float. Still kept the cork because it’s cool! Now, THIS thing you have is really cool! Such a hypnotic sound.
@@TylerLL2112 epoxy coat cork. works good.
Came for the hit and miss and stayed for the cat.
Listen to that all day
The exhaust note at 12:25 sounds like me, filing my toenails.
Finally got myself a Sandow 1 3/4 hp one.
sandow medium blue color.
Nice video and do not worry you do know what you are doing.
Enjoyed the video. I have a few 1.5HP Hit and Miss Engines but only one 6hp, it's a John Deere early 20's
Better than any music on the radio
Lovely engine and a very interesting video - thanks!
There appears to be a spring missing between the two governor weights. I can see a pair of unused eyes for one. With just one spring it's unlatching the push rod at too low a speed - there's no way it would run with any load.
I used to lean like that over rotating things too, until a friend of mine sent me a clip of a russian man literally getting ripped to pieces by a lathe.
Awesome engine though.
So I'm guessing the governor was stuck or that spring wasn't attached? Or maybe the springs are weak? (Or maybe there's only one spring when there should be two?)
I would love to restore that engine. Nice and shiny like new.
Osha approved arm ripper offer. If the governor wasn't having an issue it would have kept going on the first pull.
OSHA = Pu$$y C.U.N.T.S.
Cheers
Olympia WA
What is this old engine used for?
Very good video!!!!! Nice engine!!!!!
It seems those old one lungers will run on just about anything, except modern fuel with ethanol. When I was a kid I worked for a used farm equipment guy. We'd get one of those engines every 2-3 months. They were a lot of fun to see if they would run. I wish I had kept some of them.
you actually couldn't be more wrong with ethanol. this engine will run it better than most any engine out there. We run E10 and E15 in everything we own since it was realesed without any side effects. E85 is sometimes used in flywheel engine because you can tune them on the fly to run best with it. and if you leave E85 in a tank it just evaporates and won't have anything left to go stale. E85 is great if the engine does have rotten gas in it because it will eat rotten gas and help clean tanks and carbs. back in the 1910s and 20s they had low octane gas and sometimes distillates so there's no reason they can't run alcohol now the way they did when they needed to then. there.
@@cruddycornstalks OK, color me wrong. I was going off of the problem he was having starting the engine and the problems I've had with my small engines getting crudded up from the ethanol if not run regularly. Just wondering if you have a dog in this quail hunt, with a name like cruddycornstalks, do you grow/sell corn to make ethanol?
@@robobloxgamer524 alot of what small engines have problems with isnt just the ethanol its the ethanol being badly tended to. either getting water or sitting exposed to air to long. if its in a well sealed water free system it works quite well without any problems. most people just are not the bright or know well enough to do so.
I like the cats in the background, just doing their cat stuff. the one that gets up at 4:29 has no tail D:
It's probably some sort of bobtail.
Really nice engine
If you're a bank robber, don't use this in your getaway car. :)
What a beauty. Probably never been apart- which does show in it's behaviour! 5 year gty expired unfortunately...
its been 100% apart when we bought it. i think it was mildly stuck when my dad got it. i need to machine a few parts to reduce noise on it in the following years though.
Nice engine!
I liked the cats,
I just subscribed to your channel and hello from New Hampshire.
Thanks for subscribing!. hope I entertain!
Nice cats you have
A quarry down on the river would pump overnight . Can't imagine anything else it would do . Guess a light load is all it needs now . T/C/E
Couple of tweaks and a new spring and away she goes
My ex girlfriends dad owns a woodmill and he challenged me to start the old hit and miss oh boy it was one hell of a serious challenge then he told me it had not been started for over 5 years since upgrading to diesel with a electric starter. It only powered a water pump for log transport it blew my mind
Are the cups above the pillow block blocks contain oil ? Are they dry and not smooth ?
im assuming your referring to the main bearings? those are grease cups filled with grease your turn them in to force more grease into the Babbit bearing that has a hand cut groove in it for dispersal on the shaft.
Seems like it would be fairly easy to get that gasoline tank cleaned and lined.
More of a ' Hit and Miss and miss and miss and miss and miss and miss and miss and miss engine!'
NICE OLD ENGINE, NOW MAKE IT RUN
wow without music, sounds like ASMR.
now if only i had the money to get a good stereo recorder to make it even better.
9:14 Bye! lol That made my day. Would a tighter spring hslp it idle a little better?
Cold weather, cold iron = cold hands
ASMR
Ow man if i only had the space, i would be a collector for sure.
:))
I am guessing, if there is the resistance of a load on the pulley wheel, then does the hit N miss cycle to firing every stroke ? How does it "count" to know when or how to fire? Does it not "count" but rather fire only when the governor determines the RPM is too low?
On the left flywheel are 2 weights which are pivoted just on the inside of the flywheel. As the weights throw out due to centrifugal forces, it acts on the pivot to move an arm in or out. The arm is linked to a U shaped shell which moves up and down the crank shaft, but only slightly, maybe 6mm max. Also connected to the shell is another lever which is also pivoted, the end of which holds the exhaust bar (the one that runs front to back) open or closed. This bar is spring loaded and always wants to be pushed backwards but the arm latches and keeps the exhaust open, hence the 'miss'. When the speed drops, the weights relax, the first arm moves the crankshaft governor shell which moves the 2nd lever outwards or away from the exhaust bar, thus allowing the bar to go further back closing the exhaust port to make a vacuum to suck in fuel. As the arm goes forward (as the end hits a cam on the geared cogs - see video) it then trips the contactor (think points and sparkplug), spark ignites the fuel and you have a hit. Governor weights fling out holding the levers in the closed position and the cycle repeats. I have a 1925 hit and miss and the principal is the same.
@@terry6131 Thank you for the precision of your succinct tutelage.
Not sure what happened here in Europe, I dont see any of those around. Maybe we had less iron afforded to let alone to rust. I´d like to have one. Closest I find is 2 stroke semi diesels. These seem to make sense for pumps, generators and such. Could be a nice project to build one, maybe throw in a boxer config... Do you have a recommendable source of hit & miss mechanical principles and model documentations, workshop manuals etc ?
Wy not clean the gas tank?
So how does that work? you turn it over to build psi in the cylinder and it presses the piston out and keeps going and rebuilds that pressure back up and repeats? like an infinite spinning thing or?
your first turn it over compression it will not have any fuel in the cylinder yet so that will be a dead cycle. the next cycle it will be able to suck a charge of air and fuel from the carb and then compress it and ignigt it on the top of the stroke and force the piston down.and then the hit and miss function of governing come it where once its up to the speed its set to it holds the exhaust valve open for a freewheeling coast till it slows down enough to cycle again.
@@cruddycornstalks so It still needs fuel to run or only to start?
@@RBFR01 it needs it to run. it uses the same priciples of modern engines for how it works there. its the governor system thats different. just a 4 stroke engine otherwise.
@@cruddycornstalks i like how im thinking something along the lines of "wow this sassy sasquatch guy seems like a bit of a less than intelegent person"
but then i relised that we are talking about 100+ year old tech that isnt used any more
ok but the way hnm engines work is that the heavy ass fly wheels keep kenetic energy, there are 2 weights that fling out and push a bar over to the push rod which holds the exaust valve open. when the rpm gets low the weights go back in allowing the bar to gtfo of the way so the push rod is allowed to ride on the cam, as a result the exaust valve is closed. the intake valve is a basic atmospheric spring valve that has a spring and is opened when the engine is on the "down" stroke or just after tdc (top dead center)
so the intake opens from the vacume within the combustion chamer and vibrates open and the air fuel mix is allowed in, the coil which is conected to the push rod and is what used for timing and the coul fires and the engine like all engines, it fires which pushes the crand back down increasing the rpm and the weights fly back out pushing the rod blocker back into the pushrod holding the exaust open which dose not allow enough compression to build up and so it conserves fuel that way.
its also why you dont have to re fuel them every half hour of runing it (ofc this depends on the load the heavier the load the more the engine has to fire to stay running) they only fire when they need to.
Is that it? I saear its supposed to go faster, by the end of the video it had such a weak going. Are you sure thats its normal rate and are you sure thats its normal rate of combustion?
That gas leak my just be do to a cold stiff o ring.
I could watch one of these run all day long.
Grand invent de força gera energia forte tem muita força d uma Union pacific e fundamental.
Black cat @ 5:05 has no tail! Guessing it's on life 6 - 7 by now?
manx gene born that way!
A lot of work but well worth it...
So..... With no alternator how do you charge this battery?
it run a llong time without needing charged after that we just use a battery charger.
Awesome! BTW, How many cats do you have out there? LOL!
alot!
l got cold just watching this...!
What were these engines used for besides generating electricity?
grinding corn pumping water. or anything else involving turning something really
So what dose it run on if gas is for starting only
that tank is off an old tractor. they would heat them up on gasoline and run them with kerosene. hit and miss engines could do the same thing if they wished.
need some POR gas tank sealant
Больше всего мне понравились ваши 🐈!!!
I dont want to sound like an idiot but when it was new what did it use for spark did they have batteries back then????
they used batteries or magnetos. the batteries where not 6 and 12 volts yet they where just cells normaly they have a battery box with the coil and 3 or 4 of those cells.