Canon R6 v 1dx High ISO Comparison / Low light performance test
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- Опубликовано: 20 июл 2024
- Time to start comparing the Canon R6 ans Canon 1dx. Here we test out the high ISO/low light performance of both cameras.
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Another fantastic video Rob. Such valuable information here.
I will say the 1DX is a beast of a camera even today and they can be had for 1400 or less. I shot 25K ISO and poor lighting and it was able to focus and get the shots fast.
The 1dx max iso is 3200-4000 max ! Iso 3200 is ideal max but hey I,shoot kickboxing in nyc with candle light above a nice ring or cage . I
1dxii maxes at iso 6400 Before it looks crappy and falls apart raw or,jpeg . Bit 1dx max if u have to imo is iso 10,000 , 12,800 is where is degrades bad aka some work maybe in post but with robs fast phat nimble nubs n what the hells wrong with his hide forehead . Rob doesn’t need ur utube money so stop . He’s well of,lets just put it like,that . End of story. Canon iso lacks,behind Nikon and Sony shines here . Ergonomics the canon always. Wins . But with 1d bodies the freaking 1dx wtf thx is discontinued and the wtf 1dxii is $500 I don’t have for what sounds like a useless perhaps,gadget . Oh Ron’s got Ethernet at games well we🥦don’t automatically get that acces. In nyc at msg fool . Now move the hell ALOMG AMD HAV A BLESSED DAY !
I shoot martial arts and agree that rings, cages or venues are always candle light. A 1dx goes to 10k with a f2.8 with good results. In comparison, a 7dii does okay-ish until 6.4k with the same aperture. The lower pixel density on a ff makes all the difference, including the R6. Obviously, sensor tech has improved masses also.
Which Camera would you chose, the eos R or the 1dx mark i? I have the eos R. it works great for everything except fast moving subjects. If you had the option to trade the eos R for the 1dx mark I, would you do the trade or stick with the R?
Wow! This test really surprised me. I never thought that these cameras are so similar ISO performance.
Similar mega pickles numbers so similar noise
Same sensor
Bro 5d mark iv and and EOS R and r6 which one is best for wedding photography and long term use
Rob I’m currently pending my R7 and also a 1DX mark ii. Im planning on testing these two camera to see which one i would keep for sports. Each camera as its strengths over the other. If it was you which would you keep. 1dx mark ii used at $1800
This is amazing stuff...Just really started seriously photographing my son’s ice hockey with my 70D. Prior to that I did mostly portrait and outdoor landscape stuff...and the last time I was really serious about photography was landscaping with my EOS 630...So, pushing ISO above 2000 still feels weird to me...Will use my newly arrived R6 with Canon’s RF 70-200mm lens this weekend for hockey and see about jacking up that ISO so I can get some really good stills with the puck frozen in the air (my son is a goalie)...thanks again!
I'd love to get hold of one of those RF 70-200's
Thank you for your incredible video!
Well done great video , keep it up , big Irish fan 😊
Thanks! 😃
You can almost instantly tell every time which photo came out from the R6. The image of R6 are alway sharper and more punchy than 1DX.
I have been looking for this comparison. I'm a 1DX shooter also, bought the R6 couple of weeks ago. I have been on the field with with the R6 only once and I honestly felt that is was not as capable at high iso as my 1DX. I felt slightly more noise and loosing details in the shadow areas more than I am used to. I'm a wildlife photographer enthusiast, so reproducing the same scene to test both cameras is not an option, unfortunately. More real world testing will be done. Thanks for your coparison.
Thank you mate
The r6 is much better at shadow recovery
The R6 had the overall image clarity, sharpness and colors well ahead of the images from the 1DX, however, from the point of 10,000 ISO (5:09) and up, the 1DX surprisingly kept the colors, most of the sharpness and image clarity within all the photos, while the photos from the R6 were getting paler and paler with worse and worse image clarity and sharpness. I'm really surprised to see that happen, because I was expecting the exact opposite to happen, I was expecting the good old 1DX to completely obliterate the image quality and colors in lower ISO's and then start falling behind later on - but the exact opposite happened! I still have and shoot with my 1DX from time to time, amazing camera still to this day, considering the biggest jump in technological advancements in the entire history of photography, that happened over the past 5 years... Especially nowadays, going against the fully digital ''mirrorless'' cameras and the newest tech...
Well.....I guess the main reason is simply almost 10 years of development in between these cameras. regarding mark iii you might see a different picture.
the 1dx at 25600 iso looks like my 550D at 1600 iso 😂
@@Andrea-qg5yk at least I don’t hav to pay $599 for the wft e8a ! !
I have a question re noise and would be keen to get your opinion after looking at my image. All on brand new R6 plus RF 24-70 Lensi door wrestling photos. Can I send something to you. Much appreciated Tom G.
Hi. Did you finally managed to make an R6 vs 1dx III comparison? 8:20
Thanks so much for the comparison, it was really great! For me, I was able to guess each image, because it seems like the R6 is ever so slightly more yellow and less saturated.
thanks for sharing. i currently have 7d mark ii and am looking at the r6 for an upgrade. i think it will be a huge difference for low light for sure
Yes it will
Thanks very interesting and informative as always, I am waiting delivery of an R5, one point when you were doing testing at the very high end iso, you commented that you would never use such elevated iso Which make the image very grainy, my question is if you want high shutter speed at 1000th sec with widest aperature f2.8 shooting football under floodlights (that are not that good) what else can you do, lowering shutter speed risks blurr etc ?
I would increase the iso yes but you would rarely (if ever) be in a dark enough gym to need 104k
Great comparison and idea to compare the two camera bodies. I own the R6 and enjoying the results. .....It's mad to think we can get useable files at Iso 25600. JWhat feels like, just a few years ago my Canon 30D was shitee at Iso 2000. Thanks for a great video. Thumbs up.
Thank you I appreciate that
I personally think the 1dx images look better. That’s the beautiful thing about photography... it’s a personal perspective type of art form.
I really think the 1DX was an anomaly of a camera. This thing is over 8 years old!
Yeah 100%
💯 agree. The colours are richer where as the r6 looks flat hence i picked every photo🤣
Fascinating comparison Rob - thanks! It would be interesting to compare high ISO Jpeg's, to see if the newer body does a better job of processing them.
Great idea Nick
Let’s let Rob make the video, I won’t answer it ;-)
is purchasing the 1DX in 2021 still worth it, used of course? what would be the price you'd pay for 50,000 clicks? 👍
Rob, in your opinion, specifically regarding eye and face detection in live view mode, which is better for R6 or 1DX MKIII? I have the R5 and it's perfect, but I ask because the 1DXMKIII is a little older (7 months) and I would like to know if canon used the same technology on both or if the 1DXMKIII was still a less improved first version? I was unable to verify this test anywhere on the Internet. Love your reviews
With eye detection specifically the R6 and R5 are next level
@@RobSambles tks Rob.
I get great images at 25,600. These days its more to do with post processing than the camera itself.
Funny, I did not notice a noise difference but I could o pick out the 1dx every time. The black contrasting lines where sharper and for some reason less purple fringing. The 1dx just seemed sharper and cleaner.
I know this was a while back but I just found it. I liked this because I have these same cameras. My problem, my vision is not the best, so I never see noise lol My go to sports camera is the 1D x mark 1. Now I am looking at a used 1Dx Mark 2 and wondering if it is enough of an upgrade to go for it and maybe sell the Mark 1? What do you think?
Thank for the help
I'd like to see this test with jpeg, as I don't have time for RAW with sports pics
Science. But look how good that camera from 2012 still holds up today! The RF is capable of fine output. So is the Nikon full frame Z series, or Sony a7 family. My top ship mirrorless is a Sony a7R ii, and my on the way 1DX complement the 1D mk4 I currently have. All takes EF Canon glass. I love the L lens 70-200mm IS lens the most. Even on my Sony a6400! Holy Cow that combo has the reach, and speed a bit smaller. But the 1DX whatever mark it is says the speed, durability, capability is here for the duration. It is the anti-marketing ship today. Not newest, not mirroless, no plastic, not light, not chique. It has a job to do, no matter where, what, how, when, what weather, the 1DX is there. The torrential rains in Thailand for instance the 1DX is still shooting where unless you have a weather sealed body like a 1D family, say a Nikon D body, and lens, it could get dicey. Robust. As John Wick once said." I need something robust." He would shoot a 1DX family Camera.
Funny thing that those images are considered not useable at high ISO. back in the days shooting B&W ie Ilford Delta 3200 and it was grainer and not even in color. For PJ purposes those ISO levels open up a whole new world of capturing situations that would have been impossible in the past.
thanks for your honesty, most people who have these channels or do reviews make out that the newer cameras are 4 stops better and have 10 times better AF but its simply not true
Glad you did the test. I don't know anyone that shoots above 8000 iso and likes it. I know you have to do it for comparisons, but I do truly wonder about people that shoot past 10000 iso. Anything past 2500, is "who-cares" land for me. People kill me by saying "oh this machine goes to 102,000 iso"... to that I say "and?" The most important range for me is below 1600, and at an event below 8000 iso. I guess concert goers would really need that or anyone that does things in ALOT of darkness. Either way, GREAT review! Feel free to put the old 1dx against ALL the new Sales-Hyped cams!
I shot the 2023 Super Bowl in Arizona using (2) 1DX MK iii and most of the game and the show I shot on ISO 25600, .....and I sold most of my Images ......
It might be the pixel density that plays a part in the R6 looking sharper in many of these shots, since we are looking at a 18mp vs 20mp comparison. The 1DX has a disadvantage in terms of resolution so will never look as detailed. Still crazy good for a 10 year old camera and proof that there is only so much you can do with sensor size, since the laws of physics dictate how many photons fall onto it.
Rob, do you shoot jpeg or raw when you're working at sporting events? and why?
Jpeg mostly due to speed of workflow. If I'm not under time pressure then Raw.
@@RobSambles you're not able to edit the pictures as much in jpeg. Is it sufficient enough for you to turn in as work?
@@kevinlieng That really depends what you mean as edit. You can do most things with a decent sized jpeg. With a live pitchside workflow you're not doing that much to the shots but yes it's good enough.
I'm trying to understand what you mean by the R6 has the edge. On every one of the shots you showed the 1dx image was clearly sharper. check the white dots on the gray background. They give away the loss in details from the R6 immediately. The color on the R6 also seems bleached out when you compare the tabletops. Both cameras deliver an awesome ISO performance, but the 1DX clearly has the cleaner file.
There's almost nothing in it really but at the higher levels (25600 for example) I found the 1dx file to be a bit more grainy and more of the white/green speckled dots in the black areas.
Well that might be fine for you but there are thousands of people who would need as much iso performance as possible.
@@philfyphil Wow how much do you need!? I tested it up to 102,400!
In videos about the 600 and 800mm f11 lenses, they speak about the mirrorless cameras as if they are a quantum leap in terms of noise, but I think they are just OK.
Yeah I wouldn't say it's revolutionary just yet
Thanks for the video! I would suggest comparing a bird photo, and cropping in just a little to emphasize the bird. The area of the background behind the bird is what people would really want to see in terms of difference. Well, bird photographers like myself. I had the 1dx, and I never shot over 1600 iso. Call it pure ignorance or just superstition, but I never liked to have to use denoise software after. I own the R6 now and shoot my 600mm II f4 lens. I still don’t go more than 2000 iso, but with the R6 it seems like I can. I’ll experiment a little with 6400 and see how it looks. Both great cameras though but once you go mirrorless and eye tracking it’s like going back to horse and buggy in my opinion. It’s almost like cheating where you don’t have to focus and recompose all the time. Thanks friend
Hi Rob! Thanks for the video! In your professional opinion, which one would you choose as your main camera: 1DX ii or the R6? It looks like the R6 has an advantage in max ISO, but overall what do you think? I shoot wildlife, landscape, portraits and fashion. I am in between those two cameras, trying to choose. I now specs are important, but I don’t mind not having IBIS, animal eye autofocus, etc. I think 1DX ii has very good autofocus as well and if you now your way around the camera, it should not matter much... Plus 1DX ii has great specs as well as a stills camera. What matters to me alongside with the specs - is reliability, that you can depend on. In this case, I think 1DX ii has no competition. Also durability, as I shoot in different weather conditions and climates (snow, polar vortex temperatures, deserts, heat, dust, rain, forests, open fields, etc.). Do you think the R6 can take over the 1DX ii as main camera all things considered (specs, reliability and durability)? I am a little puzzled which way to go and do not want to make the wrong move with my money. Thank you! Igor.
I would say it's going to be fairly even in a lot of things there but the snow point could make a difference. The 1dx series have weather sealing like a tank
@@RobSambles Thank you very much for your answer! I appreciate it!
@Igor Dyda Had the r6 for few months, RF lenses and all, but sold them for 1dx mark ii and EF lenses. I got 6 EF lenses for 2 RF glass. 😊
Interesting stuff
Cameras are getting better all the time. That said I'd still probably go for the 1DX given the choice. personal taste.
I would never give up my 1dx ☺️
I saw a 2k shutter 1DX for 1800AUD.
New R6 is double the price. 1DX is true value for money
Where R6 leads in features , 1DX will outperform in rigidity, fps, and ergonomics
Comparing the 1DIII to the R6 is probably not fair, especially considering the price difference. Thinking of buy a R6 myself to replace one of my two 5DIII's. Thanks for this great video
Thank you for your test, as I was wondering about the comparisons, though I have both the 1DX and 1DX2, I have held off on getting either the R5/6 models until more certain about the noise factor, though other focusing features and fps are very attractive. Because I shoot mostly sports, the voice recording features on the DX's are very important to me, thus I would lean on getting the Canon R5, which has that feature. Plus, the R5 having the 45 mp sensor is a great help when cropping in for better details, and there is that risque of slightly higher noise typical of the higher number of image sensor pixels. I have seen videos of the Canon R6 at +10000 ISO and noise levels are quite acceptable with better detail. So far, my move is toward the R5, though I foresee the DX durable "built to take it" to become a mirrorless version of the R-series and without the rolling electronic shutter, but will it be worth the wait?
Yeah good shout on the voice recording
I picked the 1dx as overall IQ every time. The files just look richer to me.
I chose the r6. The 1dx looks flat
@@burritobrosvideos8060 crazy how we can look at the same images and perceive them so differently.
@@ccoppola82it's probably the screens we are watching the video on. Tbh, I'm sure any differences could be changed/fixed in editing.
Great video: I've been able to recognise the 1DX shots from the R6 everytime. I'm no expert but the 1DX is way better (for my taste and my usage of the gear) than the R6, the image is more cripsy and colors are nicer. #my2cents
yeah i couldn't understand why he was saying r6 was better image, everytime 1dx.
I actually paused and really scrutinized the details. I picked the 1Dx each time except for the 10kISO. Would have liked to hear what made him pick the R6 each round.
I think 1dxii is still better overall. I even shot at 32000 for sports. Problem with r5 and r6 are they both need to have battery level above 60% to keep the 12 fps and they have to use the native the native battery. With 1dxii you can shot full 14 fps until the battery down.
The r6 and r5 have muuuuuch better autofocus though
The AF performance of Canon R5 onwards did it for me. My last pro body was 1D3. The R7 I now have makes even old glass like 400 F5.6 L perform better than they ever did with dslr - no microfocus adjustments needed, the IBIS does make a difference, the video capabilities. No, there is no comparison. D850 users will swear no Canon is useable for high iso. It’s all BS. My R7 has iso 10 000 shots of owls in the dark that I could process nicely. So sensors with larger photo sites will be even better. Im glad Canon went mirrorless properly and I am amazed at what they achieved in the AF department. And we get to still use that EF glass!
The 1dx goes up to iso 204800. I had the r6, sold it in 2022 and my 1dx is still with me. No noticeable difference in iso performance imho.
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My first time shooting the Knicks was 4 years ago but thanks for the good luck 👍
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Can we 'll see ISO performance in the night?
Lots of night shots on my Instagram page @robsamblessport
You say 1DX, but which version? Is it the mk1?
Just 1dx man, as in not Mark ii etc.
@@RobSambles thanks Rob, and keep up the great reviews and articles :-)
As a MFT user these high ISO examples are ridicilous. My Panasonic G80 maxes out pretty much at 3200. Still dreaming of 1DX, better start saving... Thanks for the video!
Oh yeah when I compare this to my 7dii for example its like another world
I own the 1D X and its biggest noise problem occurs when you use low ISO (even ISO 100) and then try to recover shadows. Modern cameras do that so much better. I used the image comparison tool from DPreview, downloaded the RAWs at ISO 100 and then blew up the exposure by five stops. Then I compared them at 100%, even if that seems unfair because of the different resolutions. I know that is quite extreme, but it is still shocking how bad the recovered shadows around the wine bottles look on an ISO 100 shot by the 1D X, as ISO 100 plus five stops basicially should have ISO 3200 noise. Even the 1DX II does that MUCH better although it has a slightly bigger sensor. I often do night shots where I want to recover a few stops of shadows and might even add some clarity. That pretty much destroys the photo, if you used a 1D X.
In that comparison the 1D X III even looks better than the R6, although I thought they have the same sensor.
By the way, my 1D X seems to be dead. I thought it was the battery, so I bought a new one, but it still does not work. So it might be the main board. That is why I might be forced to buy a new camera, although it only is a hobby for me. That is quite a shock, because I do not have thousands of Euros lying around.
WhydoIneedashitgoogleplusquestionmarkforRUclipscomments: So your 1dx Mark II has a "fuller" frame 36 x 24mm sensor compared to the full-frame 36 x 24mm sensor in the 1dx? I guess that resides somewhere between full-frame and medium format...hahaha!
Did you compare boosting shadows between 5dmk4 and 1dx please ?
How come people here are saying r6 looks sharper when actually 1dx looks sharper?
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Thanks man
On the cusp of picking up the R6. I’m a basketball photographer out here in Japan and this little beast seems to be too good to be true! Thx for the video. Subscribed. I’ll head over to your Instagram. Peace.
Thanks man I appreciate that
Thank you for this compare! Do you think is Canon 1DX will be good for weddings and other commercial works next 5 years? My 1DX now is 530.000 shutter count
I guessed everyone correctly, the give away for me was middle left of every shot, the R6 seemed to loose detail in all shots. I’ll stick with my 1DX.
It's still one heck of a camera
that's just the lens - focusing area. don't forget RUclips compression
@@vipersrt30 if that were the case , why wasn’t it on both examples?
@@douglasmichel6361 the r6 has much more detail in sharpness and color. Its really not a comparison
250K SC 1Dx for $700 worth it?
Yes
The details of the figurine are pretty much the same, even at 25600. But I believe more telling test would be a dark, poorly lit scene with more different colors.
The R6 has the same sensor and processor as the 1Dx mkIII according to Canon’s web site. The main difference is the AA filters. The R6 doesn’t have an optical filter. It uses a filter built in the sensor. When you compare the two they should be very similar.
It certainly has something to do with the AA filters. However, considering that both 1DX (og) and R6 have a conventional type of AA filter, it is somewhat surprising how the R6 renders noise and smears details in the shadows. Some reviewers hinted that R6 may apply some noise reduction in raw files and that's what it looks like to me too. Also, I have noticed some more color noise, as well.
@@AdamBotond RAW noise reduction is only applied at ISO 100-400.
@@AshBashVids
Really? How is so?
@@AdamBotond No idea.
Which 1DX
Just 1dx (as in the first one)
Thank you for actually owning the cameras instead of doing fantasy reviews like other channels.
To my eye 1DX images were better and in the colors the tonal variance was better. Thanks for the comparison.
No worries thanks for watching
ISO 25600 looks like 3200 in my 6D hahah
Thanks for test
I shot a very usable video at iso 10,000 on the 6D i miss that camera
haha... same.. I don't know why released 6D.. I would have probably got 5D if 6D wasn't an option
Cool. I have 1Dx, 7DII and R6 :). I love your channel. Cheers
The really high iso image is still fine for newspapers
The 1DX retains colors better. Look at the browns and blacks.
you should atleast give the raw file for us able to download it and we can see for our selves,.
hmm, I actually thought the 1dX looked a touch better in the 25600 image. I very recently acquired a barely used 1DC and am super impressed with the high ISO on it. Great comparison and still relevant even 2 years on, cheers.
Dude, you didn’t finish your comparison! Don’t just show what really high ISOs are with the R6! Show the same comparison with the 1dx! It appears that you’re very biased towards the R6. Are you making a real comparison, or just trying to push sales towards mirrorless? 👎
Nope, 1DX still better. Anyone who buys a mirror less camera has already drank the Kool-aide and will try to convince others that it’s images are better.
Mirrorless looks like phone shot to me in many cases. Just better. Mirror camera has atmosphere
The r6 looks much better, hands down
The r6 shares the same sensor and processor as the 1dx iii
No it doesnt @@joshuawalcott321
Comments of people who are not in position to upgrade or just stupid.
Shot on dslr for 15 years.
Mirrorless has no obvious downsides beside battery life.
Better focus, better iso performance, better video, electronic shutter etc.
I thought you were a sports photographer!?! Come on use Lego soccer or basketball mini figs lol
Haha - I should have done!
comparing a grand pa with a kid....why would you do that?
And surprisingly he saw lesser noise in more noisy images.. may be it was just dust on my screen!
You needed darker subject matter.
who else has a cheap camera??? I shoot with a canon SL2, and I don't give a sht about ISO, if you're shooting for instagram you have no right to judge ISO on a photo if you put noise filters yourself. Society is so messed up this days LOL
I have a cheap camera. I shot my first 5 years including pro work on a 7d Mk1.
These tests are bs or sum ting .... I have all these cams plus 1dx I23 r6 all 4 and Rob is simply not showing real,world cases of sports 1dx maxed out at 4000 iso for decent use for pro sports pub in the USA. I say iso 3200 is tops for,the 1dx the 1dxii max is 6400 as it was a stop better that’s all and the r6 has the best high iso as the 1dxiii has . Rob should be comparing 1dxiii vs canon r6 we all know they share the same if not 98% the same just the r6 is newer than the 1dxiii as well and cheaper
ROB I ALWAYS BUY THE CHEAPEST CRAP
What a rubbish review! How about you try a sporting event in the real world .