Start To Finish On How To Lay A Porcelain Patio The Right Way
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Love your videos. Very informative and at a good pace. Did my own successful porcelain patio as a result of your advice and knowledge!
Thank you that’s really appreciated, be good to see the Fruits of your labour
Had a great week after our little chat last weekend 😍👍
Looking at starting ground works myself soon no doubt will be doing patios and what not also so your videos are very helpful. Keep up the top work.
Thanks Nick
Love your videos man I’m trying to take over my dads landscaping business just now as he has not long turned 76 and still working away doing Decking’s and patios but I think he’s had enough now! You are helping me find new things to learn and start doing for customers so thank you!!
God thats brilliant that your Dads still working bless him, Whats his name mate and yours, Now is your time and I am here to help, Johnyboy
@@GreentopLandscapes He doesn’t want to give in to the age it’s crazy, his name is bill and I’m Shaun I’ve been helping home while working at my other jobs since I was about 16 (now 29) but decided I want to take over as I love building and renovating gardens for people to enjoy!
Love how informative these videos are - you'd imagine giving away this much info would do you out of work, enabling DIYers to do it instead of hiring a professional - but those slabs are laid to such a ridiculously high quality I reckon it makes a DIYer more keen than ever to hire a professional! So impressed
What a nice thing to say hank you so much I do hope your busy and well?
Actually having watched Johnny Boy for the last 3 or 4 months I’ve gone from getting someone in to now doing myself because he is so bloody good at it and being in the construction industry myself I know the difference between a tradesman and a bullshit artist (which we have a lot of) and so it gives me a challenge to see if I can get anywhere near Johnny Boy standard
Even my mrs knows who Johnny Boy is now I watch this channel so much 😂
Great video John. Full of energy mate and that porcelain looks beautiful.
Thank you kindly
Jonny you and your team are the best out there so looking forward to seeing the process stay safe 👏👏
Thank you Brian
Cracking video mate watch from start to finish very detailed buddy. Get yourself some long handles fiskars transfer shovels great bit of kit. Your spot with them spacer twist 1,s no good. Pick axe wide blade mattock type way forward. Cracking job going on any lad that’s interested should be taking the opportunity to do a week with you for sure. 👍🏻
Thanks for the tip love your feed back its so positive and gives me a lift thank you so much
Cracking video Johnny great to see longer content like this. Good job Ryan getting in front on the camera too. 😊
Thank you so. much he is a great lad
Great video. Love porcelain. Great attitude and enthusiasm
Thanks so much!
Hi, I cant believe ive just found your videos, and whats even more crazy is im from newport also! Love the content , ive been landscaping for years but am just about to embark on my first porcelain slabbing job so this vid in particular has been very useful to me. Keep up the great work and posts ,and ill keep an eye out around the city for you 👍
Cheers Buddy always feel free to call
@@GreentopLandscapes Hi mate it’s Tony again, sorry to bother you , could you recommend a place to hire a ruby wet table saw pls?
Hi Tony
Loved the video Jonnyboy. Looking forward to seeing the transformation. 👍
Coming soon! see you seen mate
Little mention of Ebbw Vale at the beginning I think it was, my home town! 🏡 Great work John boy!
Thanks Mathew
quality as always mate, much better video structure too!
Much appreciated!
great work John, love your videos mate, love the little messages like at 3:30 , top work buddy keep it up :-)
Cheers bud
Annoy everyone but stay happy mate , good vibes
Lol
i'm planning on laying porcelain tiles in my garden..been watching your videos, building up my knowledge so keep your vids going..oh would really want to hear your advise on laying porcelain on existing concrete and maybe a more detailed video speciifcally on string lines - Thanks!
Cool, thanks, Bal have an exterior adhesive for large format tiles on Concrete
great job, love your comments at the end. Have a great weekend
Thanks, you too!
Top video! Answered pretty much everything I was needing to know, your work is satisfying to watch!
Glad to hear it! appreciate it
Brilliant, informative straight forward advise ,just bloody brilliant , as a 56 year old bloke with back issues Jonny boy look after yours fella let the younger fellas take the load it’s not being lazy it’s just an age thing . I am just about to dig out some lawn to make an area for porcelain tiles any advise on how to dig out an lay the base ie materials required, depths to dig down to etc would be greatly appreciated. Good luck with this job it looks awesome!👍
Lovely words
Love watching you work my man. So much energy !
Anyway I'm close to prepping my base for my slabs. I'll let you know how i get on x 0
Ali brother thank you mate, keep me updated.
@@GreentopLandscapes I will mate. Need it done and dusted by August as its my daughters 18th and we having it in the garden. Going for the charcoal iroboard again after watching you for best part of 2 years x
Totally agree about the self levelling. I’ve always had a massive doubt about them. even the slightest raise of a slab could potentially lift it from the mortar bed leaving only water/air in there.
I totally agree, many dont see it
@@GreentopLandscapes Great videos by the way. Long time follower.
No option of removing a fence panel to get a digger in and material in and out then?
Awesome video once again. Lots of hard work there and appreciated that a video was made!
Thank you very much! Cheers Khurram mate
I like your energy
Thank you that’s very kind
as an electrician, this looks so much more rewarding than my job as in job satisfaction, you get to create art daily
Get on it mate
im about to do something like this in a small garden
Looks great! Would love to see more info about calculating and setting string levels
You got it!
@@GreentopLandscapes amazing!!! Look forward to it!
Just about to start my porcelain patio, your videos have been a big help so thank you!
Just can’t get my head around these levels! 🤦🏼♂️😂 keep it up! 😀
Makes me want to do mine myself. But i wont lol. Great job you make it look easy 👍
You can do it mate
Mint video 👍🏻
Cheers Bud
Great and high quality work jhon always 👍👍👍❤️❤️❤️
Thanks again!
Love your advise used on couple jobs worked well for me, thanks pal
Thanks Paul mate
limestone slabs 900 x 600. what product do you suggest to protect the surface for the customer. Thank if I recieve a reply.
Do you wack the fill soil down as you go?
Hi, I really enjoy watching your videos, I'm trying to get as much info as I can before I do my own porcelain patio, can you tell me how thick is your lean mix you put on the sub base. Thanks
Give us a call
i am new to your channel glad I found it,good tips pity you got rid of slabs they could have been used again
Cheers John
Hard-working lads (Y) like the camera play
Thanks Peter
Great video John, looks like a tricky one. Your certainly the right man for the job.
Thanks 👍 I try bud
Great work and video mate!
We don’t have such a great selection of good products in Australia for priming slurry. I’ve been told tile adhesive can be used like kerakoll H40, have you used it or in your experience would it work?
@@scottharris5239 let’s talk mate
FYI DIYers banging in a metal spike into the ground can be extremely dangerous especially if you dont know if their is a main electrical cable or main gas line. Yes it can be obvious but in some cases hitting a hidden gas line or electrical cable with a metal spike can and will kill you and hitting a gas line can again cause major damage. The easy answer is use wooden stakes. Watch D&J Projects as this scenario actually happend to Taff.
Cheers Buddy
What a fantastic video, great quality workmanship! Do you cover Preston? 😄
Yes I do!
Hi mate,
Just found your channel and I’m really enjoying the content, I’ve also subscribed. Nicky Wire from the Manic Street Preachers lives next door to the little cafe up road where you went for an ice cream!
Well Thank you
Hi
Great videos.
I need a bit of advice. Starting a new porch next month. Want to have a go at outside tiles. Can I lay a concrete slab down as a sub baseand then do a sand cement mix for tiles,
Yes, absolutely hy dont you give me a call Roop mate
Great vidoes - watched a few of your porcelain paving laying and planning a DIY job. Just a question on the lean mix on top of the sub base, is it needed or just preferable? The mix seems to vary quite a bit from one video to the next. Wet mix and dry(ish) mix. Which one do you decide on on any partiular job? - Cheers Jonnyboy
Got my sub base (MOT) down and would like to know what the weak mix layer consists of (15/1 sharp sand/cement)? Is that just a dry mix or is water added? Thanks Guys
Top video as usual !!!
Can I ask what would happen if you didn’t slurry the slabs before laying?
They could lift up delaminating is an often occurring factor and it’s a British Standard now to slurry buddy
Great video. How much sbr and plasticiser do you put in your cement mix. Thanks
Thanks Mate, about a Mug full
another great video John!
Thanks again! Darren mate
Great content as usual. Those steps must be a killer!
Thanks Jack, no the steps were fine
Your attention to detail is excellent 👍
Thank you Sir
Great vlog.
When you lay the porcelain on bed to make sure the bed is full before priming did you tap it down to where you want it then lift it for priming or do you tap it down into place after priming.
Cheers
Hi Garyy mate, thanks for watching, in answer to your question yes I did mate.
Miss these longer videos Jonny boy !
I know Mark mate I have lost the will these days lol
@@GreentopLandscapes I understand mate. You are a true professional and it’s nice seeing you do your work. I always aim for quality workmanship like yours, and also Justin from brickright. I’ve spoken to you a couple times, not sure if you remembered. Needed some advice on porcelain cutting !! Keep well mate.
Give us a call mate
Love your videos and looking to do my own porcelain patio. One question I have is what's in the sub base your laying down and your lean mix please
Thanks very much.
Thank you Colin mate, I do use MOT sub base but i put a lean mix on to to ensure good adhesion
@@GreentopLandscapes thanks for the quick reply, would you mind explaining your lean mix and how your laying it in one of your videos please. That would be greatly appreciated.
God, job, lads, but where are the second parts of the video? How was the garden finished .
This is definitely one of the best videos I've seen. What kind of grout did you use to fill the gaps? Another question: For cement slurry, can I just mix water and dry cement to back butter tiles?
thanks mate, give me a ring
Hi Johnny great video as normal, can I ask what's the thinnest you can use for the lean mix please. Got at least a two foot MOT base compacted real good didn't know about a lean mix so might add one of got the space for it
Hi Stevie mateI would not go any less than 50mm mate to be honest.
@@GreentopLandscapes Hi Johnny thanks for the infor much appreciated mate 👍
Make people smile through every day. It costs nothing and stay happy. Ps what block sealer would you recommend for the block drives
Absolutely
Hi Johnny Boy. Top work mate. Assuming no lean mix is used and the bedding is applied directly on sub base MOT, would you use any product to seal the MOT? I may eventually decide to use a lean mix, if I do what is the ratio of bond to water pls? Thank you.
hi Bud a few things on the market Bal do a good one and its made with a lot of research.
Hi, great video - i am attempting to do this myself at our new house
i have a couple of questions - after you have whacked the sub base down, you put a lean mix over the top and whack that down - what is the lean mix? Cement & Sand?
Can you call me? It’s All in sand and chipping Ls the same for concrete
Great video John. Thank you for sharing. What depth do you lay your lean mix to? Or is it just a really thin layer on top of the sub base?
About 4 inches mate
Absolute nightmare doing it by hand, free tip… rent a mixer 🙈
Loved this vid learnt alot
Glad to hear it!
Thanks for the video! A landscaper is recommending to me that we dry lay 2cm porcelain like this over compacted gravel (same as concete slabs), thoughts? His reasoning is if water gets in between or under the tiles and freezes, it can disrupt them. I'm a bit apprehensive of this approach due to potential movement. We do live in Switzerland and get colder winters than UK.
Mark this topic is so big, I have spoken to Bal Adhesives many times about this and companies in Canada, the easiest thing is to talk to you more than happy to set up a Zoom call if you want?
@@GreentopLandscapes that would be great thanks! Will drop you a mail with details
Info@greentoplandscapes.co.uk
@@GreentopLandscapes thanks, dropped you a mail
Hi John great video as usual. What product are you using for your beds ? Everytime I order sharp sand it's a very gritty product and grey in colour this almost looks very sandy. Do you ask for a specific grain ?
Cheers
Hi bud away at the moment give me a call when I’m home
Question about your diluted SBR put down on lean top before you laid mortar and tile. Did you have to lay over the top in a specific time period or was it just seal it and then its fine to lay over top over a few days?
That’s a good point but SBR is a latex to it will create some bonding qualities, thanks for your feedback
Do you have to use SBR? I recently had my patio done and I didn't notice the builder putting SBR on the Indian sandstone slabs. I'm not sure if he put it in the mix. Several slabs are loose although at the time it was freezing conditions so they might have not bonded from that. I just hope he comes out to fix it. He used a lot of compo leftover from another job. It's good to see tradesmen like you take care in their work.
Thank you so much I hope you get it sorted
Johnny Boy your a mad fecker I love it! good work!
Lmao love it cheers Buddy
Hi Johnny boy love your work mate such detail ❤👌 may I ask if you have ever used Vitripiazza Cava Quartz porcelain ? Are they any good as I’m just about to start doing my patio after watching ur videos . Keep up ur brilliant work mate
I love your response Mick mate thank you Sir, I have to say I have not sorry.
Always happy to talk
Can’t seem to find anything supplies of Spanish or Italian manufactures in the midlands 😢
Give us a call mate
Hello mate do paving my self just woundering why do you use sbr in the mix if you slurry the slabs 👍🏻
its a water proofer abd will stop the damp rising through these thin slabs
Very nice, what colour would you recommend for a sandstone brick house? it's black old weathered pitched anstone
Give us a call ☎️ 07795595994
I go light
Hi mate when you say you put a lean mix over your hardcore, to top it of what rasio sand to cement thanks
Hi Bud About 15 to 1 that’s not just sand that’s ballast
Hi are you happy to leave a 6" concrete slab under part of our patio once you SBR it . Thanks.
As long as its not compromised Kurt mate
how have you applied the sbr to the sub base to stop drying out the bed of mortar?
Yes
Would you bed them on well compacted sub base … no lean mix???
Yes that works I just prefer a leanmix
Do you put SBR and a plasticiser in the 5-1 mix? If so how much of each? I currently just slurry the slabs with my own SBR and cement mix. Cheers
Well I do some times but sandstone can be a problem
When digging for the depth for flagging if the ground is clay would you suggest to dig deeper 100mm + for MOT?
Yes for sure Bethan
@@GreentopLandscapes okay thanks and I’m guessing just keep going until the clay thins out or would you dig down to a certain depth also great vids watching them all really good content 💪🏻
What is a lean mix ? Does this go on top of compacted hardcore ?
Product Specifications
Grade Standard
M5 To M7.5
Material
Cement and Aggregate
Density
2450 Kg/m3
Application
Sub Base/Bedding
Packaging Type
Loose Material
Compressive Strength
40 KN
Usage/Application
Construction
Product Description
Dry Lean Concrete (DLC) is an important part of modern rigid pavement. It is a plain concrete with a large ratio of aggregate to cement than conventional concrete and generally used as a base/sub base of rigid
Really enjoy your videos Johnny, Facebook group is a great data source too mate 👍🏻
Thanks John, are you on the group?
@@GreentopLandscapes Aye Johnny I am so
Cracking video, I was wondering if you can use tanking slurry on the back of porcelain tiles to lay outside on a cement mortar base? Cheers Steve
Yes, absolutely
Hi
How thick do you recommend to put the sub base for porcelain tiles?
To much to type Lee happy to talk
Simply the best 👍🏻👌
Cheers Buddy
Great vid, I want to lay flags around the house, how do I do the fall for all three sides of the garden without it looking weird at the corners?
Hi Kenneth, thanks for watching. More than happy to talk you through it.
@@GreentopLandscapes please do, a video would be great.
Do you install a soft joint for expansion in 900x600 20mm porcelain slabs, the base is 110mm of compacted scalps and am fixing with a 4:1 semi dry mix 40mm thickish, sbr slurry on the backs and using 10mm joints using mapei flexible ultraclour plus grout. Any advice on expansion joints would be a great help. The patio is approximately 9 x 4.5 metres. In previous exterior installations with 12mm porcelain we would install a soft joint or expansion bar every 10 foot. This is my first outing with 20mm porcelain slabs.
10mm seems to be a rather massive grout width. i used 5mm on mine but the spacers were hard to come by. 4mm is more common.
With a Lean mix Phill mate you really dont need an expansion joint but it would not hurt to drop one in
Cheers for the advice, greatly appreciated. The reason for the horrid 10mm joint was so it had a little extra flex. Think I am going to reduce the joint to 6mm and lay on a 5:1 mix. As its a full bed i will run the brick saw down the mortar after laying to create a weak spot in the bed and soft joint above. I have always laid porcelain outside on a screed with expansion joints and using a thinset adhesive. Its great to get other experienced fitters advice when using new methods.
@@klaeLIFE I use window packers as spacers on the first row then eye the rest in checking every now and again
Would you have a preference for 60x60 tiles or 90x30?
Hi Kev mate it just depends on clients requirements
Hello there
Just so i know the method, please can you share why you laid membrane under this one ?
I just felt the ground needed a stabilising fabric
Do you have any recommendations for a sealer suitable for porcelain?
elements Sheild
Hi Jonnyboy, please could you advise the colour of porcelain and where to get it from. I’d really like to have the same for our project. Thanks.
Hi John the client got this from Cardiff Slate and Stone
Hello, do you need a lean mix on hardcore laying an Indian sandstone slabs?
it would be a better install but not a must
Thanks for the reply. Grey vids, excellent work good to see true professionals applying their trade.
I'm laying my own porcelain 20sqm area do I need such a severe fall as its down the garden not next to the house?
as long as the water runs off but you do have water tension with porcelain
Can I ask what the grey porcelain style you are laying is called? James
Not sure of the name James Client got these
My Garden slopes toward my house. Would that mean I ensure my porcelain tiles slope toward my house? And ensure I have adequate drainage
Any patio can run towards the house as long as you accommodate the surface water 💦
Good work. But I always wonder how slippery those tiles get when it rains. Looks dangerous. 😬
No mate R11 rating does look slippery
Fantastic video, such a great guy, thanks for sharing your knowledge.
John is a natural in front of the camera and seems like the decent honest landscaper that we all want to employ!
I'm a complete novice but will have a go now after watching this.
one question... what is the ratio for the lean mix that goes on top of the hard core sub base?
Such kind words Del mate thank you, Leanmix 12-1 is good but moist some concrete companies do it but give them a call on their spec, be safe brother.
@@GreentopLandscapes I will do. Thanks again.
Keep up the great work and inspiring videos 👍
Thanks Del mate
SVR? What is it, and should I put on my type 1 base before laying ?
SBR Martin but a good slurry mix is as good
Love the job but disappointed the sandstone pavers weren't recycled (given away) for reuse.
I try to recycle all the time but sometimes they are just not wanted
At 14:30 John is carrying a heavy slab up the steps and is being held up with the person carrying the 100g camera.
I really enjoyed this longer video. Thanks. 😀
Good point lmao great stuff Ian
Great video and job does anyone have any experience laying with packs of 295mm x 295mm, 295mm x 600mm, 600mm x 600mm, and 900mm x 600mm, and getting the right joint widths?
can i use just sbr in cement mix rather than the primer
Yes mate
Why would you not put a 150mm stone drainage trim in I don't get that it makes the patio bigger stops the mould building up I always do it....
Hi Todd 150mm seems a bit wide
Nice video John but watch the levels. Should be laying upto 150mm below DPC? Given that there's no designed drainage it would be helpful to cover falls away from the building (1:80 to1:60?) - looks like you have some standing water? otherwise thumbs up from me and you come across on camera really well.
The British standard is 1:60 for porcelain but it just looks stupid, I see your point about standing water but ist not its called water Tension, its something you can not avoid with Porcelain, thanks for the thumbs up.
Oh yes you can go one below damp in domestic situations and of course as long as you dont bridge the damp course thats fine as well.
Building Regs require DPC 150mm above finished ground. A competent Surveyor will pick this up on a House Buyers Survey.
So how do they deal with wheel chair access, look at the paving expert on is domestic situation rule,
@@GreentopLandscapes I mentioned the DPC point as its something I frequently come across as a Surveyor and your videos provide some really great advice. You mentioned the Paving Expert.com who covers these points better than I could in this message. Alternative 'dry area' arrangements, drained channels and linear drains are all options where costs or client preference means the '150mm below DPC' cant be maintained. Where disabled access is concerned some tolerance will be applied by Building Control providing the 'breech' is limited to the width of a door opening and a drainage solution can be applied (see Part M Building Regulations). Alternatively, if a client is insistent on a 'level threshold' / paving an injected DPC or water proof render / tanking may provide a solution?
Ultimately, I would go back to the Paving Expert's comments where the Property Owner should be made aware of the potential consequences and consent to any breach in order to safe guard come back on the Contractor.
I hope you are Ok with me raising this point, I found this video very informative and very much appreciate the time you have taken make these videos for us - Im looking forward to watching the 'Massive Garden Patio Fail' as some small relief from my own Clients problems
What would you do differently if you had to use 10mm tiles? TIA
Full concrete and steal
@@GreentopLandscapes thanks for replying. How would the steel be used?
In the concrete 10mm is so thin so you need to lay on concrete with an exterior adhesive but a wet pour needs steak or fibre or it will crack
Have you ever seen porcelain laid on a 1 in 200 fall? We have a patio laid like this and are not happy. Might be looking to get it redone if you're interested...
Hi there we have never seen this, where do you live?