Grouting A Porcelain Patio Using Easy Grout
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- Опубликовано: 5 фев 2021
- Grouting on this day was a little stressful as it was a window of opportunity and we did not want to lose the chance to grout this patio.
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Great looking patio again John.👍
Thanks 👍 appreciate it Gareth
Thanks for the tutorial, great work as always guys
Our pleasure!
I just want to say THANK YOU for all your videos. This evening I have one slab left on a patio I'm doing. My garden was left with two patios laid in slate without a slurry. The slabs didn't adhere and I got my money back after the builder trying three times to lay me the two patios. I got my slab money back not realising how difficult it would be to find a cheap landscaper or builder locally. So I dug up the massive patio which contains steel, slabs, sand cement using a titan breaker. I'll grass and level that in the spring and using all your and another person's videos have laid a porcelain patio outside my conservatory. I have honestly had sleepless nights over this as I am also in the middle of divorce a I couldn't devalue the property. Here are before and after photos. THANKYOU, Zoe Colchester. I can't
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Hey Zoe that’s great news love to see that patio
Fantastic work
Thank you! Cheers!
Lots of effort and care to make sure everything is perfect. Great to see I bet most don’t have your level of attention to detail.
Goid point bud. But if we are in this game we need to.. dint you think?
@@GreentopLandscapes definitely I have used many different trades in the past and they don’t seem to take any pride in their work. Great to see guys like you 👍🏼
Great job
Thanks Shaun mate
Bless you Jonny
Thank you
I'm a small landscaping company on the South Coast and I've chosen to pretty much stay away from Porcelain patio's for a number of reasons, cudos to you for a fine looking job there and I recognized that slight sense of stress pre grouting... Good luck for the weather going forward, it can't be any more challenging than recently!
Thank Andrew for your feed back it is appreciated very much, and yo are correct I was very stressed as the weather was looking bad and its tough making a decision. be safe Mate
What reasons pal?
Hi John
I followed your videos and the result was great.You are right the grout does change overtime due to being outside and build up of residue. After a lot of research I found a product called Pro-Solve sealer.
I cleaned the joints and applied to coats to the joints.The results were amazing.The grout now keeps a consistent colour and no residue. I have since applied to the slabs and also amazing results.The patio now looks like new and amazingly has does not have any sheen or wet look.
Amazing product but very expensive but worth every penny.
I am not an expert but thought it might be helpful.
Great projects and great advice!
Hi Mark thats so good to hear its now looking good , be good to see some pics of it.
Hi mate I’ve been thinking of doing the same so once you applied the sealer did it bring the joints back to original colour the same colour as when you wet them I have the dark grey and now have light grey in some of places.to.To be honest once it rains the joints look good so asking does the sealer do the same. Cheers
Always a worry when you grout a patio John isnt it .
Well you done a lovely job again mate so worry over until next time 🤣🤣
I layed concrete today and i always crap myself always have with concrete. I always get it right but like grouting theres that pressure to get it perfect.
Lovely job mate fairplay.
Justin brickright 👍
Thanks 👍 cheers bud we need a phone call mate.
Lovely job , Johnny boy great information mate , nothing as yet can stop Mother Nature mate and what it can do to our work , especially if your near a tree the water that comes of the leaves discolours and stains on the surface of everything , I was once asked what can I do because my patio was sticky and discoloured , my reply was take the tree down , which I’m against 😜😜🙏👍keep it up mate much respect 🙏👍
Absolutely John you dont know how your comments make me feel really appreciate your support.
Hi Jonny a new grout from Ardex coming in March I’ve been told a game changer
tell me more
@@GreentopLandscapes what’s your best contact number
07795595994
Fantastically sharp. It's likely that I will have to grout my own patio. I have 3 tubs of the easygrout in my shed and 50sqm to do. I wish this weather would do one the patio was laid in September. I have it sheeted up at the minute. No doubt I'll have to blast the joints.
Good stuff
Thanks for a great video. Does the method work on none glazed porcelain tiles ? My tiles have quite a rough texture and just wondering if they will come clean? Did a small section as a test and some came out perfect and other had loads of white residue in the grooves. Thanks Robbie
Hi Robbie just got to do a little at a time and work clean
Hi Jhon I've just done my first porcelain patio on my own thanks to your videos. I found the grout just a little dry with 90ml water, do you use more water with it to make it easy to move about? I know it says on the pack that you can't use more than 90ml, but I think it would help a little more to move about with the squeegee. What do you think? and would it make much more difference in colour to what I have already grouted?
Hi Buddy I think more will dilute it to be honest.
Martin Freeman on the tools. Multi talented
Lol 😂 ?
Nice work 👍 do you think a pergo machine would work well for the cleaning process?
Yes, definitely but expensive
Hi where did you get the large squeegee from?
Hi man
Brilliant work
I have my first porcelain patio I am doing this week
Would love to get some info on how long should I leave it once its all been put in joints
Newbie at this but would like to do the best job I can
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Regards
Any time. Give us a call
Hi thank you can I phone you about 9 oclock today don't want to be bothering you too early
Is this product better than a brush in? Just finishing my porcelain patio at home (thanks for all your videos been an amazing amount of help) and will be looking to grout soon.
It is mate but you got to clean it well
Why did you use stone chipping (splash strip) between the porcelain slabs and the house? Looking in to this and it recommends to only do this splash strip with a land drain underneath the chipping for water to drain away from the house. Asking for help as I’m not sure whether to do this splash strip or simply take the porcelain slabs right up against the house. Thanks
There are a couple of reasons, One that the rain water that comes down the face of the house can be a fair amount if you take in consideration the M2 and that then has to run across your patio along with all the sediment you have some times in rain water, then if you were to grout up to the house the patio can move causing fragmenting cracking basically and will look unsightly. Also since the introduction of SUDS they want the water to go back into the ground and not overload the drainage system
Hi John, the porcelain looks amazing with that grout! Just wondering if you can remember what the dark gravel/chippings are at the edge? I’m looking for something similar myself but really struggling to find anything dark like that so anything you can share would be much appreciated!
Hi Abby try Stone Warehouse The Range hope this helps
Thank you!!
Just a thought, have you considered using one of the wet dry vacs to get any debris out between the paving instead of using washer and blower, just an idea that I thought I’d mention
It’s a good idea, never thought. As long as it gets any muck out?
Looks good. Was considering using VDW 850+ epoxy on my porcelain patio (7mm gaps). Expensive but suits wider gaps and can be jet washed. Now seeing this I’m reconsidering. Is it jet wash-proof?
Hi John mate,yes it is jet proof but don't go at it at very high pressures as water can be quite damaging, household washers will be ok
@@GreentopLandscapes thank you 👍
Hi mate what sort of coverage do you get with the easy grout? I've got a 27.5msq porcelain patio. 5mm gap between tiles, 20mm thickness - how much do you think i'll need? cheers
Hi Rhys mate it just depends on the void your filling to be honest I use a 4mm joint and no voids underneath so it fills quick.
I'm laying a raised porcelain patio area, and it's being fronted with porcelain around the 3 sides, fourth side is against the fence. What will be the best way to grout the sides as I can't pour the easy grout on the faces.
Use Mapei
Hi there
Great video
Can I ask if you are sealing those tiles before you grout?
Sometimes
Hi mate… my patio has been down 2 years… used this product initially, i have a number of hairline cracks along the grout lines… can i pour some more mix on top? Or chisel out and redo?… also is an angle grinder best method to remove grout?
Hi bud many thanks for watching video it seems with the cracks it suggests that there is some movement with this grouting system depending on the depth of the exhausting grout you may be able to go over the top but I would try and experiment first before doing all of it any probs give us a shout
How do you handle edges against grass or loose stone? i.e if you push easy joint around at the edges it’s going to overflow before it stays compacted right?
Thanks
I just fold the grass back
Very nice job as always , how long did you wait on this overcast day until your first wash off 🧽??
not long Steve mate about an hour
What mm gap do you recommend? What make grout have you found the easiest to use?
Cracking job 😍
$mm now for me I think is best, there are lots of good ones out there But Easy Grout atm as its slurry grout and it gets in all the unfilled voids in the bed.
@@GreentopLandscapes thank you. Was speaking to a landscaper who swear by sika fastfix even on porcelain.
Was that 5mm gaps?
@@jmc8018 $4 :))
Hi J.B,looks great,but hard work i bet,i take it that if a customer wanted the slurry grout option over the brush in grout then it would cost more as its more Labour time i guess ?,whats your personal preference, and are there any draw backs with either product.?
Great point, so many pros and cons Bob mate. happy Easter
Where’s the squeegee from? Struggling to find a good quality one for grouting my porcelain jobs. Next investment is definitely the large pedalo washboy lovely job 🙌
try Tilers Tools
Question!
Do you use easy grout or easy joint with slate ? I've seen some use grout and some use pointing and have a bigger joint. Kind regards Alex
its not recommended by the manufacturer
Hi will this work okay with textured porcelain cause I found running a sponge over them really sticky.
Hi Tam, it should do but dont do to much at one time
Hi John. What's the name of those patio blocks? Looking to get something similar to that. Many thanks
They are from Mandarin stone Larry
Thanks for the video, have you ever needed to treat porcelain after grouting do to not being able to clear it?
Regards Tom
Always cleaned well Tom if you need some help just call me
@@GreentopLandscapes I can’t believe you have reached out after a comment on such an old video, thank you
My pleasure
07795595994 call me tomorrow if you want
What do you use to plug the ends of the pointing grooves to stop it going in a flower bed for example?
I’d like to know this too.
Great work Johnboy🤙🏼
I use gorilla tape. Sticks to anything. Use it on steps where the step over hangs, stick it under neath and up the face till the joint has set.
I used the bedding mortar at the end when I laid and its a rapid set so I pull it in as it starts to dry,
Hi great video and amazing job.
Wanted to know how can you clean dried cement and grout Residue of porcelain paving
Just depends how bad it is Mo mate, there is so much on the market mate
Definitely a different colour in the slab after the grouting slurry?
That’s probably the haze that’s comes off or even the light with the camera. It’s clean
Johnny boy I don't have a Pedlo system only hand sponge float ,i tried a pour and it's panic to remove the residue by hand it's just to hard to do all by hand, can I leave it a few days then jet wash it off ?? Or does it have to be done asap by hand ? So stressed 😐
Nidge mate give me a call, don’t leave it once you do it call me
John have you ever when using easy grout had staining on the porcelain slabs? If so what would you recommend for getting the stains off?
You easy grout with grouting gun save a lot of time and less mess,try to avoid to much mess
Hi did you solve the staining?
@@martinoluigbo5880 no I didn’t, and I’m doing another porcelain patio now, and same thing has happened.
Only product that works is lithofin cement away be careful to read instructions first. To avoid in the future seal the porcelain if not glazed.
We have had our porcelain patio grouted yesterday and they have not cleaned the grout off like this at all ... they left it very smeared and now im panicking that they wont get it clean today as all dried into the patio .... will a pressure washer do the job or is this a ruined patio ?
I am not sure Kelly from what you have said,they should of cleaned it well
Do you know why easy grout dark grey would have white patches appear on it?
it can be through water underneath when grouting it needs to be dry
Hi mate, Great video. I’ve used easy grout graffito on a porcelain patio. Looked great the start but had a fair bit of efflorescence 3 weeks on. How long do you leave it once into the joints? Do you follow behind and wash straight off, or give it a bit to set then go back and wash? Seen a couple of techniques used. Think i was too heavy on the washing off and water causing the issue.
Hi Stuart difficult to say with out looking but probably what you said you probably have diluted it a bit mate
Had a mare with my grout today as had to rush my mate to the Hospital mid grout. Only issue now is we have staining on some porcelain slabs after returning. How can we get this staining out of the slab? We were using easy grout grey. Any help would be so much apprecIated.
It just depends Phil on how long it was left
Just use easy joint extra fine much easier no mess
How long would you recommend to leave before getting wet after the grouting? Thank you
Next day with this product Gemma
Hi thank you for your reply our dark grey easy grout has dried a really light grey after getting wet would you know how we can get back to the original colour and the grout has also stained the porcelain slabs could you recommend something that could remove this. Thanks
Job looks very well done but Wouldnt white grout look nicer? Also how would you get excess grout thats been on the tiles for over a year? I had a really sloppy grout job, left excess everywhere!
Where you able to get it off? I seen somewhere you could use grout haze remover?
@@happyhero1093 no i wasnt, will give that a go, thanks
@@sirsambo1075 No worries. Good luck
Hi John, what do you Dom to fill the 40mm void at the finish?
Just a nice stone... it allows the water to go down in the ground instead across the patio
@@GreentopLandscapes thank you - have you a video showing how to set up the fall of the patio?
I just finished laying porcelain tiles 600x900x200 and now just grouting left think about this easy what you show in video or Mapei ultrafast
Sounds great! there is one
Hi there I have discolouring to my dark grey it has went light grey so I used elements shield that you recommended to someone who has the same problem but it has not worked.do you have anymore solutions….cheers
Hi Tony grouts can go this way for man reasons why dont you give me a call?
Just tried doing my tiles with easy grout, total disaster, it dried too quickly or I wasn't quick enough, I had to power wash the tiles to remove the grout, I think I'll try it with a different tool rather than the squeegee
Sorry to hear that mate, always welcome to take a call
Johnny boy. I’m thinking of using this on my current job. I normally use flowpoint but the colours are limited. What sort of time scale do you get with using it? Same like flowpoint?
Thanks
Can you call me Shane mate?
Yes no problem, what’s your number and best time to call?
Give me 20 minutes
What’s your number please Johnnyboy
07795595994
literally just grouted my newly installed porcelain patio - i wish I had seen this before had, i did it all whilst on hands and knees. I had to race against the pot solidifying as you say - result is overall looks great but a few bits could be better.
Would there be anything wrong with making another batch similar to this ^ and re-applying it to the existing joints to fill in any gaps?
to clarify it was an easy grout too - different brand but same idea
Hi Neil mate, thanks for watching, I have been told that you can add to it if its a bit low etc but just drop Azpects an email they are good to deal with.
Patio looks great now .BTW what is the name of your Porcelain
I think this was the Belmont from Stiled stiled.com/
What's better for porcelain tile, easy grout or easy joint?
Easygrout Steven
Thanks Johnboy. Great videos by the way. Keep up the good work 👍
Lovely job there as usual, clients clearly not a fan of anything that grows by the look of it!
Its a pity, some planting even a couple of key architectural pieces would look stunning. A couple of Nandina domestica (sacred bamboo) would work well and not require any intervention. Nandina doesn't run like bamboo and is slow growing but a fantastic red and green variegated leaf. A cutleaf maple or two could work potentially as well.
Jack plants are coming mate dont worry mate I am on it
Plants are so important
@@GreentopLandscapes good stuff, needs some planting to set off the great hard landscaping
@@jackw9920 thank you
Great video John but how come the porceLANE don’t line up
Does not?
Do you know how much each tub covers per square meter?
Just depends on joint size and depth of joints
What’s your opinion on using ‘slab layer’ instead of just using muck mate
SlabLayer?
Yeh wickes Sells it haha
Think he may mean the stuff by blue circle. At £5 a bag it’s a dear way of bedding em down compared to loose and cement.. 3.5 x times dearer roughly.
Hi do I need a expanding joint on a 5mtrx8mtr patio.good work
Thats a very good question, it really just depends what your laying it on
@@GreentopLandscapes laying on concrete base
hi can you butt these slabs together or dose it need a joint? thanks.
Needs a joint
@@GreentopLandscapes perfect thanks
I thought that the weather had to be above a certain temperature or was I wrong. I had 8 degrees in my head ?
It was good
We had a couple of relatively warm days at the beginning of last week.
No it was good bud the overcast weather helped though it did feel cold
I came here to see what the finish SHOULD look like. Yours looks awesome! My man did a nice job laying the porcelain. Then used dark grey easy grout which he bladed in, but then cleaned off with a jet washer not a sponge (I suspect before it had cured enough). The grout levels are uneven/missing in areas, patchy and light grey at best, not solid dark grey as I was expecting. Don't know whether to try to go over each joint with more product or rake it out and start again. Very disappointing considering it was on target to be a very nice job
Thats a shame Graham mate, these products sometimes can be very difficult to use and it can take years to master them if you need a chat just call me.
Same problem mate the stuff is garbage that’s all I have heard is the dark grey going light grey.Only looks good when it’s wet (goes back to dark grey)
Please use hearing protection when using your blower!
I spent 18 months as a motorcycle courier - probably a less noisy environment than being beside your blower - and as a result, I'm now deaf in one ear.
These days I wear hearing protection when using any power tool - even my Kartcher power washer.
Will do Clive thank you
How many square meters do you get from one tub of easy grout?
just depends Harry mate
@@GreentopLandscapes 5mm joints with 600x600mm slabs? I have got about 50 square meters to lay and was hoping 6 tubs would be enough?
Can you use this on granite??
Granite is actually quite soft I would be very carefull
Where did you get your pedalo from John? Heath from southampton
Tilers tools mate
Why do you choose to use Azpects products over Nexus?
Because I prefer it if that's ok
@@GreentopLandscapes haha fair enough. i was just wondering if there a technical reason other than preference for 1 brand over the other? have had conversations with 2 or 3 professionals on this and have conflicting arguments for either and just wondered for your opinions, thanks!
Can this be done in light rain like the brush in stuff can be done in all weathers. How long does this take to go off.
@@lmilne4859 yeh a fine mist of rain makes it pretty easy actually you end up doing a light spray over with a hose pipe to be fare to give your self a bit more time with the clear up but anything too heavy and it will just weaken it ! 👍🏻
Whats the funky background tune john
Lol I can not remember mate
@@GreentopLandscapes old age kicking in 🤣😁
Probably old age lol
Hi John, is it any good using flow piont by using a mastic gun?
I like this one mate to be honest
What about that stuff you're using, would that be ideal to use using a mastic gun?
Broilers, bascitball ball
Not entirely happy with this product. Had a lot of discolouration with it. And I watched this video first before I did it. Apart from that. It’s was easy to use. Are the any grout pens I can use to get a even colour ?
The discolouration can be through damp joints, the best thing to do now is to seal it then the grout will be the same colour
@@GreentopLandscapes ok super. Many thx 🙏. What is a good sealer ?
Elements sheild
@@GreentopLandscapes thank you 🙏
It could have gotten a little bit more cleaning. Stains all over. Tiles ruined.
I disagree
What the hell kind of porridge was that!!
lol
I am an above average DIY handyman and I can honestly say that this is just about the worst building product I have come across. My builder has very-competently laid a porcelain patio for us but he was pulling his hair out with Easygrout and I foolishly offered to finish the job. The grout becomes sticky and sluggish very quickly but worst of all, it is a nightmare to clean off afterwards. Give me a traditional ‘force into the joint’ grout any day.
Lol 😂 I have used it many times and it’s good and easy to clean off, but you should take your feedback to AZPECTS and give them some feedback
@@GreentopLandscapes thank you and my comments were no reflection on your video(s) which are excellent and really helpful.
All good buddy all 👍
Horrendous stuff, bought it to grout my patio and it ruined it. Spoke to the MD who apologised and said it depended on the porosity of the porcelain slabs. I had a beautiful white porcelain tile a number of which are now stained horribly. Proceed with caution this is not as simple or as clean as it seems. Since found a much better black brush in resin which was a dream to use, no mess and no staining - you have been warned!
What a nightmare Simon, who did you speak with that would be interesting?
@@GreentopLandscapes I was gutted to be honest, spoke to Jeff Carter - very helpful and informative but I think this product is probably more suited to you guys, the professionals. Trying to do it on my own it was going off quick, I was racing to spread it then clean it off on my own. The result you got looks incredible though 👌
Bit to runny fella
it was the correct quantity, turned out well
Back ground music so annoying
I agree
Lose the music, it's not 2011
2011?