Ninebot MAX Repair, Upgrades, Controller Swap, Tire Removal & More!
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- Опубликовано: 31 авг 2021
- A couple months ago I fried the Ninebot MAX on a steep hill climb in 110+ degree temps. Join Chris and I on our journey to find out what happened to the Ninebot and what we needed to do to fix it.
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Glad to see you brought this scooter back to life! I don't ever plan on toasting my Max, but it's good to know how to fix it.
Super helpful video! The 9Bot is by far the most commonly recommended scooter for first time buyers. I forwarded to ECarve because Scott has a whole fleet of 9ers.
Great video my man. Seems like you have a very good mechanic friend. Super smart guy. Thanks for the instructions.
Great repair video. I knew you could get this fixed. Well done.
Great video! lots of details that a lot of people ask very frequently! Good job Guys!!!
Nice video, videos like this are essential in helping create a informed and capable community that will only advance it for the better by having a understanding and educated consumer.
I enjoyed this video, great job done in a way easy to understand.
I had a thought, It would be nice when upgrading connector, maybe use a weather sealed
connector mounted externally to make rear wheel RR easier for repairs.
Thanks Chris and Ginger
Thanks for the video, I own a ninebot and your tutorial will come in handy one day. Thank bruh!
Awesome video and so refreshing to see too.. there are hardly any channels out there that do this especially as a follow up.. I think currently only Alien has a workshop that he occasionally does this stuff on. Many thanks for sharing and glad you got your ninebot on the road again. Only thing you didn't cover on this was "cost" the fix and how it compares to a new or used ninebot instead
Don't own a scooter but can dream, love your videos, great to see a repair video after the fail of a scooter
@Ginger on Wheels. Really enjoyed content like this and I think this is an awesome way to show everyone the how to steps on fixing things that will occur to their scooters at some point.
I had bought the Ninebot Max on the Indiegogo platform for around $550 or $600 bucks at the time and was doing small upgrades here and there with Chris and was set to take my Ninebot down to him, as I encountered a hiccup when I installed the sharkset extended bar and front suspension. But mine was unfortunately stolen and never got it back. :/
One the main reasons I bought a Nami to replace my Max and put security measures on it now. Two alarm systems and GPS tracker lol.
Maybe if you and Chris aren't too busy, sometime this year we could all meet up for a ride in WA state. I have a friend here in Yakima who has a Sherman and other EUCs, as well as he's very experienced rider on the EUCs.
I have a Nami, Surron, V11 and looking to maybe purchase a Lacroix Lonestar Supersport sometime early next year. Maybe even one the newer EUCs after first batch
Great video. I have a front and back suspension coming from max mods and will probably get a 48v upgrade along with the fat max motor. I'll definitely be redoing those connections. I'm just curious what would be better option, the external 48v or the internal 48v battery replacement, or both?
Me and a couple of Mates in Australia have the external battery upgrade that we saw on your channel. Thanks GOW
The other guy in this video is the guy that came up with the idea for adding external 12v kit and is the one who actually makes them
Great video on fixing ninebot tks guys
Hi there! I need to replace the tire valves, I think the rubber around it cracked on the rear motor wheel. Was hoping that was under the “tire removal” in this video but didn’t look like you needed that done. Any recommendations or pointers would be greatly appreciated!
Great video definitely can learn alot
Great video I learn a lot from it
Scooter mechanics make it look to easy good to see it fixed again though and not just sitting gathering dust
So do I have to open it up like that if I need to replace my back tire? My back tire got punctured and I need to fix it but I'm not sure how to do it
Hey do you have the my max 48 gold edition battery internal upgrade. I was wondering do you loose the regen break capabilities of the nine bot?
i know what tinning is ginge im a licensed ham radio operator no that was great to watch and good stuff to know mate
do you know where to purchase contollers for G30LP? or is the g30 controller compatible with g30lp?
It is alive, the usual blue connector has melted, the control unit has also jumped, a resistance on the control unit must be changed to bring it to 48v safely. We wait for the test of Chris' engine for g30
Is the Voltage increase limited by the stock controller, or is this just a capacity upgrade? What additional benefits do you get with the 48V Max Pack upgrade?
You are the best, man
You mentioned wago conectors in your replies
I can't solder at all so what I want to know is what size of wago conectors do I use. I have the 12volt ext battery from mymaxmods and just bought a new controller (burnt mineout like you did)
Would you recommend the wago 221 connectors?
So the upgrade batt needs this connector upgrade.... good to now ... thx 4 this great video. I bought my self the EASYGO E-30 MAX+. I think its the same as de g30. But this company puts his own name and brand on...
Does the controller contain the original serial number or is is stored in the stem piece?
Would it be a good idea to ur off the regen breaking? Do you have any mods for max g2 yet?
am i good to keep the original connector if i dont use regen braking
I was hoping to see you mod the heck outta that Ninebox Max like I've seen with some other videos on here.
My wires burned up and I can’t get the display to turn on anymore do you think I need to replace the controller
Can you do the monorim 500w motor and 48v upgrade. You can also dual motor it as well.
I ran the battery on my ninebot G30LP down to about 11.5 volts because I let it sit to long. Is there a way to reset something so it will charge again?
I have a G30LP and the controller fried... was wondering if a G30Max would work as a replacement? (Cant find a G30LP controller)
Hey! Great video. Would you be able to list the size of the screw bits you used to remove all the bolts? I tried a few of the bits in the set that I currently have, but i don't have the correct sizes. I wanted to make sure that I get the correct one the next time I go to the hardware store.
Also are the replacement wires and connectors commodity items you acquired separately? Or are they in some sort of upgrade kit that can be purchased?
Idk exactly. I'm Sorry!
@@GingerOnWheels T15 security bit
Can a more powerful rear hub motor be added replacing the 350W motor that comes with factory. What are the steps to do do for the Ninebot Max g30 P
Hey, have you ever tried the onewheel?
Great vid
Question is, if 15 amps on this spot of connectors is not a purpouse? To create the weak spot in wire to protect other parts from fire ? Isn`t this a Fuse connection ???
I had also Blue and Brown wire melted in the same spot. Stock Ninebot Max. And it was still going. Was replaced in waranty still.
No , not fused. The stock connector can't handle the power surge/amps going through, especially on a full battery with regenerative brake set on high on a downhill, clearly an engineering mistake.
Hi, i have looked every where for this info but could'nt find an answer , i just wondered if you guys know if the third party G30 (XBOT) controller will work with out the BMS wire connected and not through up an error code, i have a copy G30 and the battery doesn't have battery data cable!? The controller it came with is one of a kind and no one sells it on any web sight. Hope you can help. Thanks in advance.
Hello
I am wondering if you have a list of F E T transistors that are in the ESC controller for Ninebot Max Gen 2
Thank you
-I'm also wondering if the FET from a Chinese controller can be placed in OEM ESC
There is no schematic I can find of the ESC
Just replaced my bearings so next project!
I was hoping that the motor would be open as well. Because its winding may have become hot and its insulation may have melted.
It is half-burned. maybe
I fried my ninebot max with the 48v battery but the controller still turns on but all 3 connectors burned up to ash but can I still use the original controller if it still works
Thanks for posting this. All of my connectors have melted! I'm going to just hard wire the new controller to the motor wires - hopefully that'll do the trick!
I hard wired the controller wires to the motor using block connectors, but the controller had actually blown.
Bought a new one, had to cut off the black plastic connecters from the new one to hard wire it to the motor...and voila, we're up and running.
Unfortunately a few weeks after that, the internal transformer died! So bought and fitted that and once again, we're up and running!
why they melt?
@@00_itachi25 Apparently it happens quite regularly. There's a lot of current going through those connectors and the metal to metal connection between the two isn't massively strong - thus they get hot, may spark and sometimes melt.
hope ye sort ye scooter bro
@@guyp3599 ah.. how many amps were you using? do you think it'll happen to me if i ride at 30a daily? i used to drive at 32 when it was cold but i'm kinda worried now
Is there a temperature that is too hot to ride your scooter or not recommended? It gets over 100 out where I am should I not ride on those days for the health of my scooter?
Over 100 is definitely pushing it. But as long as you're not flooring it for the entire duration of the battery then it'll be fine.
I have been having trouble with my scooters and now they won’t even start. :(
Any ways this video is GREAT and this will help most.
How would one know if the controller is dead? I have a max and thought the motor was dead but the power turns on so bought a new motor and still the same. Any help would be appreciated 🙏
Thats how you know lol. Either your controller or your actual spring loaded throttle mechanism.
Chris is my guy mymaxmods #1
Im not sure if this video is too old for comment but I have a ninebot max as well and the display just keeps flashing and each flash it lights up each part of the display (Eco, D, S, light, bluetooth, walk mode, temp warning, etc. No error numbers. I can't turn of or on as well. I believe I used Xiao flasher and this happened. I can't find anything online about what the issue may be. If I managed to describe said problem well enough, does this sound like something you've dealt with before
I've never heard of it before. Try reflashing the stock firmware and see if it persists. If it does then its likely a loose connection between display and controller or a bad controller, maybe from water damage.
What is the top speed range it be way better then stock parts 👍
Thanks for this.
So moral of the story, don't use Re-Gen braking, since it can cause things to fail faster, besides putting extra wear on the electronics?
am i ok if i dont use regen braking
my thing turns on when I connect the burned wires. But as soon as I turn the wheels a little bit, it shuts down. We’re getting new connectors, fix the problem? . Or is it something wrong with my motors?
I think it's your controller. If I were you I would do exactly what we did in this video. Replace the controller and the motor connectors.
@@GingerOnWheels thanks so much it's fixed now
Ive been thinking about buying an electric scooter and i found one but i dont know if it is good or not can u test it the scooter is called the gotrax g2
So we should turnoff Regen break in the app to solve melting in the first place to right
you cant disable it on the segway app you can just set in to the lowest mode but i recommend flash the scooter and disable kers fully
the capacitor on the old controller had the cap all puffed up, it was toast!
My ninebot dash will turn on when I hold the power button but turns off when I let go ? Flashed the displays a 10
Did everything now I'm getting red light wrench error 24 how do I fix thst
What board do need convert a shared scooter to make it to a regular g30max thanks
No idea. Sorry...
Will this eventually happen to people who installed the 48v mod and did not upgrade the connectors? Does that increase the likelihood of burning up the controller?
Not unless you're a heavy rider who goes around flooring it in 100 degree weather all the time.
Would 195 be considered a heavy rider?
What is the name of the yellow connector that you use to connect the motor cable
MR60 👍🏻
Can I do this without soldering
Does the screen have to be connected to the controller for the controller to respond or turn on ?
Yes
I went with the apollo ghost
@Ginger on wheels:
Did U find out how to repair the faulty controller?
Or at least whitch chip of mosfet blew up?
I have a dead scooter as well with the same blue phase wire molten.
And i hope that i can repair the Controller instead of changing it :D
Hey big fan of your reviews very informative. I have a stock Max Gen 2 and the MyMaxMods external kit I will be installing soon. I subscribe and watched your ninebot max can you ride it through hell test video and obviously the outcome as seen in this video. I just wanted to ask how long and under what kind of riding conditions she lasted before the breakdown and upgrade?
On that super hot day when I was riding around at max speed with the upgrade kit and custom firmware it lasted about an hour I'd say. I could feel a loss in top end speed when the phase connectors started melting. That bad connection led to the controller overheating and... Poof! If you put in the battery extender, I'd open up the bottom too and upgrade to the XT connector for the motor wires too at the same time. Then you won't have to worry about it.
What is the blue holder you're using to solder mr60?
Ok. I have an issue that I haven’t seen before, nor can I find a history of.
Got Error 14 on a Ninebot Max. Tried connecting new throttle to brain, no change. Disconnected everything except main power, still Error 14 on brain. (Brain=main screen)
Installed brand new module, and error was cleared but button did nothing to change modes or turn on headlight. Wheel when rotated begins low throttle operation (3Km/hr or so) but showed no speed on the display and the throttle does nothing.
Installed an old display removed from a different scooter, and everything seems to work fine now.
Like - super strange.
I just bought a g30 max second gen (new), but I had it sitting for about 3 months before riding it. It worked perfect for about half block ride and then poof! Totally dead. It was hard to push home and when I got home I took it apart and noticed that the main battery connector to controller connector would spark and the blue battery light will spark and turn red. I'm stumped can you help?? Ty
There is no 'blue battery light'. Wtf you talkin bout, Hank?
@@GingerOnWheels i think he means the flashing blue light you can see on the battery
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Pozdrawiam z Polski. 🙂
Well looks like I'm turning my Regen braking onto low or off, that's definitely a design flaw. There's a hill I ride down to work that's easily half a mile and pretty steep. Im coasting at 20mph with the Regen on medium.. this kinda scares me because my commute to work is 3.6 miles..
the melted connectors blew the controller board. the new connectors can handle this regen amps. thers a reason why on cfw the kers is turned off. on stock wireing the connectors are to weak for tuned cfw.
cool thing look here my Xiaomi 1s E-Scooter upgrade Tuning 4.0
I'm debating between repairing my Max myself (damaged back wheel+fried controller and connectors+diminished battery capacity after nearly 1.5 years of riding on sport mode) or buying a brand new G30. The screws on the bottom plate are damaged from careless curb scrapes so I will have to invest in a brand new drill as an extra cost to remove the plate. This is fristrating.
How much miles or kilometers have you done on it? I'm planning to get one and use it daily
Have you mod it?. I have an G30E II (25kmh) model, 1gen motor.
Always in Sport mode, with full regen break.
Around 7000km on my scooter now. No burned connector. And Battery works like new.
Only i needed to fix was replace front berings after 1year: Driven all year around in Sunny days, Snow, Rain.
@@alevera9572I used it for my work commute so probably 1500 miles in a year-and-a-half time.
@@DoNE021I haven't yet, but plan on it.
i bought a kit then found out i cant een flash my scooter because the firmware is to new i wish i wouldve known that before i bought it now i can do the st link thing but thats a pain or get a new controller
Hi Sir how i can get from my scooter Max 30P the controller
can you put this controller in F40 model?
im trying to get a battery upgrade kit for my aovo pro m365 s1 but im just hitting brick walls do you know anyone who can help me ginge thanx
I have a Segway Ninebot that won’t turn on but does charge .what can be my problem.can you help
Could be anything from loose connection to a dead controller. You're going to need to do some pretty hardcore troubleshooting.
Good day. I bought a G30 two days ago. Watched the video and downloaded the scooter hacking app. It advised me to backdate my software. After that the scooter won't turn on. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
I would turn to the mymaxmods Facebook group for help on that one.
@@GingerOnWheels Thank you s much. I made contact with Chris @ my max mods. Ordered a new Controller from him. What a great guy!
Why did you get G30D... Isn't that the German version?
My ninebot is not turning on how can I know is the controller or battery? My bottom battery is blinking blue does anyone know what that means?
Do i have to remove the wheel to change the connectors?
No? We didn't do that in this video.
@@GingerOnWheels You did at 11:06 lol
@@addictedtosynthwave8151 oooh you mean to replace them with the XT connectors, yeah my bad. You should definitely take it off. It'll make your life a lot easier in the long run.
@@GingerOnWheels thanks :)
Interesting -- the washer acts as a little torque plate
the washer has this lip for safety reasons. it keeps the wheel in place even the nuts are opened a bit.
I was out on my max with the 48v kit and I blew up the controller, and I was going 28 mph.
How long did you have the kit for and were you riding in very hot temperature?
What screw is that
Omg just change that meted connection 🎉 easy fix
And new controller*. Running the scooter with the partially melted connection blew the controller also.
Hello Friends, I need sell my Ninebot Max G30, it connected to my App on Android Smartphone, what I have to do for disconnect it from my app and let the buyer create a new profile?
Do you know how to fix Error 18?
This is related to a hall sensor failure? Was your ninebot loaded with custom firmware? I did some reading and it sounds like replacing the controller, just like we did in this video, is the easiest way to fix it.
@@GingerOnWheels thank you. I have not downloaded any firmware or changed my scooter at all.
Glad it wasn't a blown motor, as that would cost much more to replace.
Good excuse to get fatmax motor
Well, using the hardware way outside of their specifications is usually a bad idea.
I changed the controller and my rear wheel is still hard to spin
Either the phase wire connections are melted, or connected incorrectly, or the motor is fried. I'd lean more towards phase wires though.
Where can I purchase a gen 2 controller?I need it.lol
I would contact chris at mymaximods.com
So the controller board blew and not the motor.
Yup
Such a boring video. Had to watch the whole thing. Lol
Really enjoy the technical stuff.
where the power is coming from should have a female connector on, buy doing this you will not get an electric shock from the connectors and it is not as easy to short anything by touching anything with a live end, if you find it is not possible, then it would be best to put it back together so you can take it to professional that will find a way of doing so,
Can I send 2 of these to you to fix please 😭
Sure can, but it won't be cheap. Dm me on instagram @GingerOnWheels
That connector isn't melted, that is black glue on it.......
Nah it was melted. All deformed and different color. I suck at camera work apparently but you'll just have to take my word for it. That connector melted which is what caused the scooter to slow down, and controller to heat up, minutes before it stopped.
A better solution instead of soldering MR60 to the wires is to crimp the wires and use a Wago Connector to join the wires up. Wage allows up to 32 amps which is plenty and give a great connection. As simple as pushing the wire into the connector and pushing down the clamp. Solder wont last as long as a Wago connector.
Then if you need to remove your motor you need to snip the wires again instead of just unplugging
@@GingerOnWheels great point! Another reason to use the Wago.
@@dataroberts8962 oh, I was under the impression there was no soldering with Wago connectors. You absolutely need to solder the wires though to ensure a robust connection.
@@GingerOnWheels no soldering needed the connection is solid with the wago clamps
@@GingerOnWheels have used the wago for ages and works perfect. Also these connectors last forever and will outlast solder by a mile