How small of a man must you be to go and hunt something solely as a trophy? I grew up where the purpose of hunting was to put meat in the freezer, not antlers on a wall. My dad killed his limit pretty much every year and only ever had one mounted and naturally it was the largest one he ever got and he had hunted it for literally years. He didn’t pay someone to bring him to what equates to a stockyard
U have to be honest & up front with ppl.& Not let them discover ur sexual identity thru physical contact!!! A man fondling someone they thought was a woman,only to find out they have the same equipment as u,can be quite a shock to say the least!!!
I think it is a form of sexual assault to not disclose your transgender identity before engaging in sex with a person who identifies as straight. Clearly such an ommision is to proceed without consent of the other party
I'm sorry she was murdered, but also horrified by what they considered to be "targets" 😢 Lions and Leopards..... Hunting to eat is one thing, trophies are another, though I have no right to judge anyone 🥺 So sad
@@gretchenkiley6615 It's not judgement .... it's defending animals who can't protect themselves. As we're supposed to be the "superior" and more "evolved" animal we have a responsibilty to protect the other animals
As a gay men , trans people should be honest with people they link up with. I dont care how much you pass, be honest and transparent with the gender assigned to you at birth. Not everyone is gonna tolerate those kind of lies. They will un alive you. Period.
I hate that it's always framed that the trans person was being deceptive. Many of these men KNOW the person they are hooking up with is trans. They k*ll out of guilt and shame. Trans woman Kesaria Abramidze was recently killed by a guy who knew she was trans and wanted to hide their relationship. Let's be real: the trans panic excuse is just victim blaming
I can understand he lost it when he found out she was a “he” but he should have just used words to express himself and walked away never to contact the person again.
He was under the heavy influence at the time as he was drinking…. How can you give valid consent when you have absolutely no clue that the person w/you has a mental disorder as evidenced by it’s ICD10 Code and think that they are the opposite sex or depending on the time of day they identify as a Man vs Women vs It vs We vs They/Them etc. & etc; This is RAPE.
@nancydiehl296 Didn't stop him from driving while DRINKING You and Nikki sat in the driveway, she obviously wanted drug money for her addiction Nikki was out going enough to tell him, Dave I'm transgender He didn't want to take her in the house but was ok to have sex in a vehicle 😒
@TangledTrueCrime Using violence because your feel feels are hurt is the opposite of dealing with it like a man. That's dealing with it like a child upset another child took your Legos.
Why deceiving someone tho?Be honest and give the other person a choice cos you never know how they gonna react to this kind of "surprise"...Especially men🤷🏼♀️
@14:52 per David's own words Nikki told him she was trans while they were sitting in the driveway. Did you ppl even watch the video? Or just hear the words LGBT and all rational sense left your mind rendering you unable to watch the video? Yes it's victim blaming. You keep wanting to revise the story to pretend Nikki didn't say she was trans, but the killer himself confirmed she told him. So if you'd like to support the killer, believe his testimony.
I have put guns into cases almost my entire 40 year life and never once have a done so in a way where I could be hit by the weapon discharging. I doubt an experienced hunter would have done that to themselves either.
I agree. I also find it odd that they chose a 12 ga to hunt in Africa, to take down a large animal. Don't get me wrong I love my shotguns, but that's not the one I would take to hunt any large animals.
@@SisterGoldenHair212 not referring to legal prescribed drugs for people who must have a medical condition, talking about illegal drugs and abuse of drugs.
You can see incompetence just by looking at that Zambian ex police commander's face and his silly smirk. How can a whole professional take someone's word in a death investigation? What kind of investigation can be concluded from what a possible suspect says? What kind of police and investigative training do they do in Zambia? It makes you wonder how many Zambians never get justice and how many get wrongfully imprisoned because of shoddy police work.
That Zambian police chief is so gullible. All anyone has to do is tell him something and he believes it because it's coming from their mouth. He's in the wrong job, unless he was trying to sweep the crime under the carpet because prosecuting would discourage tourism. But everything he said makes him look incompetent. Police get used to liars but it's like this guy wouldn't believe anyone would not tell the truth.
Pretty sure it’s a cultural difference. Not defending it just stating why he might be inclined towards a mentality like that. If that is the case you cannot really judge him for it.
The final case where the Dad murdered his wife by beating her to death. The son & daughter should be ashamed of themselves for taking the killers side. He most def. killed her. He couldn't be more guilty if he tattooed his forehead saying " I did it"
You’d think Todd would be screaming & wailing, demanding they FIND that truck that killed his wife AND sue the company for her death!!! If innocent, did he show up or call the cops daily, weekly, monthly…asking if they found that truck?! For family members to think mom’s or dad’s are always innocent is mind boggling!!
It's denial. The hurt of having to accept what the loved one did is so hard that the try to go on pretending they didn't do it, even if there is evidence or not.
When a very loved one takes the life of another of your very loved ones.....when they have always been good loving people......or have always pretended to be.......your mind, I suggest from a different type experience,.......actually doesn't find it possible, finds it ridiculous actually, and the mind that has no previous thoughts of it being possible , having no reasons to suspect......automatically I think (🤷♂️) our brains begin to act to protect our ability to survive trauma....and certainly to protect from additional trauma. I think, (for what that may be worth)......our brains or our conscience thinking abilities as humans, also have in our bodies the Adrenalin, or blood cells....OR whatever immediately sets in to fight off disease, trauma, start healing.....forever, or temporarily until the specific brain, mind, emotions,etc can handle it while retaining our sanity. Perhaps amnesia and disbelief are two of those built in coping mechanisms, .....how is it possible not to believe it when you are told that a loved one is dead by the police, even after you have seen them, that they are gone.....but in your mind you concoct that it isn't so? How is it possible to know something even....yet not believe it, not accept it? I had always thought it was self deception on purpose, which sometimes is, but not always the case. The mind, consciences, everyone with the same basic physical brain thinking, perceiving, behaving to differently is not something science can explain. I didn't believe the brain could play the tricks it can on itself, or what appears to be itself. I had never conceived of the idea that our brains come to our aid to save some trauma for us to go forward. Until mine did.
So much reasonable doubt, if he did it or not he shouldn’t have been convicted, everyone better hope they never find themselves on trial for something they didn’t do so many morons on juries that don’t understand the law.
This hunting stuff is disgusting, but this is quite common in wealthy weirdos…he picked this place to off his wife because he knew he could get away with it…or so thought..how can you shoot yourself with a rifle? It’s almost impossible to…
Hunting is natural to all mammals and it's what made homosapiens top of the food chain... what is disgusting is diseases that totally defy nature and rather than treating their mental illness they call it normal and create laws to protect it.... now that's disgusting. Anything unnatural is not normal and if it's not normal it's a disease... a sickness... it should be treated.
I absolutely agree. I don’t think she should be killed for it, but it can really freak a man out especially with his background. She should have told him and maybe this wouldn’t have happened. I’ve heard this wasn’t the first time she did this with a straight man.
@Missstrish exactly 💯 agree... it's horrible and outrageous she got taken and he should pay for what he did. BUT it's also not ok to tell someone until after being physical... clearly he wasn't seeing what she was.. AND SHE KNEW THAT so she could have said something... or even nicely gotten out of HIS car not start fighting in his car.. js!! she didn't tell him till after they had kissed and she was fondling him!!!!
The thing is it can be as equally as dangerous to tell people your biological sex or sexual orientation especially in an age full of transphobia and homophobia. It can be hard for us trans folk no matter what we do
The third one is rough. Usually when a guy is going to off his wife, they have problems leading up to it. These people seemed like what everyone would want their lives to be like... The pipe falling off a truck might sound unrealistic, but I've seen it happen. (By the way, pipes don't "fling" themselves out of trucks and land flat then bounce up, they slide, hit end first and cartwheel like a MF.) BUT the husband changing his story THREE TIMES just seems odd. Especially to do it on the witness stand, when your lawyers have had time to ask the guy you're going to use and MAKE SURE... Why would he do that if he's not hiding something? I don't know... But for 12 people to say no reasonable doubt just proves what George Carlin always said, "You're getting judged by 12 people that are too dumb to get out of jury duty."
@@xxNinjaclanxx-id9rs This show did not. It's odd because they seemingly don't have one. Now, you don't NEED a motive to off someone, but it helps to understand why, and this case, just wow... I'm actively looking up this story because I'm so interested in it, and unfortunately there isn't much that's not just pure trial footage. (This is the only documentary on YT that I've found). His police interview should be interesting, so I'm going to start there. Then I guess I'm going to have to watch court. Peace out Ninja
Yeah i thought the same about the pipe like how did they find him guilty but then heard the state of her body the injuries like to the BACK of her head?? Then then the cuts and scratches all over him? Yep he’s 💯 guilty
Agree about the pipe. This happened to my brother, the pipe was like a projectile off the back of a truck, went right through the windshield, don’t know how my brother was able to move out of the way, the pipe went all the way through to the back seat right at the drivers side. Thankfully he was ok and just had to replace the windshield, the truck kept driving and never knew it even happened, I’m sure.
@@shadoejones3288 Wow. Yeah I can almost guarantee they didn't know it was missing until they were like, "Why did you only bring 49 pipes, we ordered 50?" or whatever. That's an amazing story to live through, and I'm very glad he's unharmed. God bless.
If you become a transgender, I feel that every transgender should be upfront about who they really are not manipulate not leave someone on upfront. Let them know that you was born a man, but now a female, or you was born a female and now a man let me or female know, and let them decide if they want to be with you or not not to tell the truth to me is deceiving a person lying to a person. My heart goes out to the family is sad that she had to lose her life I’m not against anyonebeing or who they wanna be but at least be true to the person that you’re trying to be with because it can hurt other people as well. Rest in peace Nikkie.
How do you know she wasn't? Don't victim blame.. for all you know he participated. I could tell immediately and that's just from pictures. Maybe he willingly participated and then afterwards felt disgust and took it out on her. Wouldn't be the first time. Don't assume.
I didn't even need to watch the full story. As soon as they showed Nikki's picture, I knew he was a guy. David is full of crap. He knew Nikki was a guy.
You Cant tell, she looks like a young beautiful woman until i saw the younger him.. she should be honest of her identity.. am not condemning what david did but I can't blame him he might be disgusted and gross and sometimes we cannot control our emotions specially with alcohol or drugs on our system.
Nikki should have been honest to him before it going to far d The honesty would have prevented this. Everyone has rights but people need to be honest with each other. Sorry it came to this for these two
Yep. He literally put himself into his own destruction because the other guy had he known the truth would have never approached Nikki and thus....... Nikki would still be alive. Straight people want straight people... period Why all the freaking complications messiness
Yes, especially if you don’t want to get beat up or killed, I have a transgender friend who NEVER tried to fool anyone. But I guess that’s the difference between an adult and a teenager.
Yes, Plus, I'm from Vancouver, and I know that area. No teenager, especially one supposed to be female, should be out in that area in the middle of the night! At 17, why was the child [I won't say daughter because that is not accurate], be into drugs and picking up men at that age?? Why was this allowed?
@@kazukispeach after the fact. No child, and at 17 that's what they were, should be out in that area picking up men in the middle of the night! If you watched the video, that nothing was said, he found out by default when they were making out. Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive. The child had already had a brush with death being shot 6 times over a drug deal, and apparently learned nothing about poor decisions, and mother didn't stop the behaviour. Curfew for teens in Vancouver...it's there for a reason. Top protect
Yup remember the pics of Trump's son holding an endangered species he killed? He had to pay safari guides to help him do it 😂. Just the most insecure type of man I guess.
As far as the windshield case goes...How pathetic is it that those children stick up for their poor poor father and didn't once she'd a tear for their murdered mother..😢 It doesn't take a mental giant to clearly see that this so called man murdered his wife!! Everyone involved in investigating this case is clearly incompetent!!!!!!!!
The daughter is clearly a daddy's girl, while the look on the son's face tells a different story.. Clearly some silent sibling rivalry is at play here...
@@marshapieroni6677 no, he found out when they were groping one another and when he pursued her, he realized they had the same parts. She never told him and that's wrong in itself, putting herself in a very unsafe position.
@@OhanaM in his first interview he literally said that she told him before hand. that second story where she told him while they were already being sexual was AFTER he changed his story saying it was self defense. why in the world would she not tell him if hes about to find out anyways.... which is why she told him like he said BEFORE they had sexual contact.
@@kazukispeach up.... we DON'T know that he/she wants honest about sexuality...... that's NOT been mentioning. And from MULTIPLE OTHER CASES similar to this????..... I'd say, truth wasn't actually brought out until..... intimacy started. Sorry, that's not acceptable
If you are trans gender- please be upfront and honest with anyone you have a romantic interest in. David absolutely deserved prison time for murdering her- but as an actual woman, I can tell you, you have to be careful and not put yourself in situations like that.
That's the tactic he uses to escape consequences. In truth, there is no necessity to deceive men. OMG, do you realize the number of men interested in trans individuals?
@@chibi_rabbit there are millions of Americans that hunt for food on the table. Most appreciate and honor the animal 100 times more than the average person who buys their food on a plastic tray.
I've had a latter fly off the back of a work van speeding down the instate coming straight for my windshield. I slammed on my brakes, and when it landed, it was only an inch from my car. The van never stopped, and everyone behind me had stopped. I drove around it, and another man got it off the road. It freaked me out because it was flying 😳.
My step father (RIP) used to haul and sell scrap iron. When I was a kid, there were 2 instances that I remember where a short piece of metal fell off and DAMN STRAIGHT it can do something similar to what their windshield looked like. BUT.... The way the guy behaved otherwise makes me suspicious. Otherwise I would have believed him him whole heartedly.
I fail to see how nikki's law will prevent any future incidents. It just prevents a defense claim to a situation that could be avoided if the trans person was honest up Front. There should be a law that makes trans people disclose that information within a certain time frame of meeting/dating someone. I don't condone killing anyone who isn't threatening your life, but I can understand how someone can become so enraged upon finding out the woman you were trying to be intimate with was a man, or vice versa. It's the ultimate catfish, and is really no different than finding out your partner knowingly gave you an STD , which is a crime.
It is absolutely baffeling to me that many of the top comments here talk about that Nikki should have told him about her gender and not a single word about that he shouldn't have unalived her. Classic blame shifting. And btw - he lied so blatantly - who tells you that he didn't lie about that, too? That she didn't indeed tell him? Who tells you that they did make out at all? That that whole story isn't a cover up? I am much more inclined to believe in favor of the victim instead a single word out of a man's mouth who unalived a person!!
I'm sorry this happened. I don't know the truth.... But let's be honest, a person high on meth is capable of doing anything, especially being violent... She just felt she got disrespected and I can see her flipping out..... People tried killing for a lot less.
I truly agree. Wholeheartedly! I recently saw someone on Meth shoot their 6mnth old grandchild in the head bc she was "possesed". Also, the justice system always try to say that killings like this is a Hate crime. Smh. He overreacted and was grossed out bc of the deceit. It's a crime of passion at best!
The mother continues to claiming her 17 year son is a victim while her son is drugging and victimized a man by pretending to be a female. This is a sick case.
Nikki had already established a history of violence against those she perceived as doing someone wrong (per her mother's report). Add methamphatamine to that kind of psycholigy, is it really far fetched to think Nikki may have attacked him for rejecting her? I don't know, but I think that would create reasonable doubt as to it being a hate crime. Juat because someone is raised to believe it is a sin does not mean they hate the person or would ever harm them.
These people Need to be upfront who they’re all are I’d be mad if I-met a guy and find out they are a woman in real life ,cause surgery or not you are and will always be what your born as . It’s sad what happened but once more be upfront ,Not everyone agrees with those lifestyles.
You are who you are, but no one is the same person they were when they were born. A trans person is a trans person. They aren't pretending, or crazy, or trying to trick anyone. If you accept a huge range of genders and sexes exist, and remember the possibility of different body parts is there, then you can just calmly say what your preference is.
1:13:20 I promise you Insurance companies have access to ballistics experts and everything necessary to protect their billion dollar enterprises. To suggest otherwise is disingenuous
They do, but if I’m not mistaken, I don’t think they bother if the cause of death has been determined. Between the cost of experts and court costs to fight the family likely exceeds the cost of just paying out (at least in most instances). I suspect the insurance companies would have investigated and put up more of a battle had the original autopsy listed her death as “undetermined”
She *did* tell him, that's why he freaked out. Ohhh wait, that was his 1st story, you choose to believe his 2nd story because it fits your narrative better.
"She", "She", "She"....he was a dude!!! A dude with a clear mental illness but instead of helping him, society and his family made it worse. 40 years ago this wouldn't have been on TV for example, certainly not portraying his behavior as normal. Now people who find it immoral, perverted, and a mental illness that goes against all the laws of nature, are the hated ones. People like me. Hate away but you won't change my opinion. I believe in loving the sinner while hating the sin. So don't accuse me of saying things I haven't said...and would never say. But I stand behind what I have. The whole thing is to disgusting to watch.
I do not believe he killed her because she was trans, he killed her because of an altercation that blew up over pure deception. While yes, I do not condone his actions, are they understood how it ensued yes. If she went on an attacked him, which I can also see happen considering she was very confident in her identity, was likely angry because he rejected her, her past history and moreso on meth, I agree with 2nd degree, but not the hate crime conviction.
Hate Crime - the state mandating it's citizens will celebrate and bend over backwards for what the state deems as a "marginalized" community. The dirty little secret is that hate crime(s) only go one way and everyone knows it. Lazy Jay has been a failure of a governor for Washington for everyday working people. Only ultra special interest groups benefited from his leftism.
This literally happened to me. We were traveling down I-75 going 70+mph when a lead pipe flew off a flatbed, ricocheted off the road, flew up and hit the windshield on my side. The windshield broke, but being safety glass held! It didn’t make a hole-that to me looks like he held it and drove it through the windshield. Windshields may cave, but they crumble. And they weren’t driving fast. If our windshield held driving 70mph, with an impact of at least 140, I’m very suspicious of this whole story. That pipe would have had to go at the right angle-which looks like he stood there and made it go in. And why was he taking her to “replace a windshield”? Why not drop her off at work then go to “see a man about a windshield”?
I think Bogdanovs sentence is fair. Nikkis mother needs to take more responsibility for her drug addicted female passing 17yr old trans child being out on the streets playing dangerously, approaching & becoming intimate with men who believe her to be a woman. Smoking Meth & engaging in sexual intimacies with an intoxicated man who believes she is a girl is very dangerpus behaviour for a grown adult nevermind a 17yr old & from how everyone spoke of Nikki i have no doubt he did react with aggression when insulted by Bogdanov. This is physically a 17yr old male & Nikki was no stranger to violence having dodged 6 bullets & come away with grazes she knew how to fight & handle bad situations. Her being Trans was definitely used as political propaganda & i prefer to hear honesty in criminal cases. The truth is that she was an accident waiting to happen & her trans activist mother should have acted before her death.
Agree. Accountability is no longer. Creating a narrative doesn't simply change facts. A man's character is summed up by the amount of truth one can tolerate.
Her being trans was an issue Bogdanovs had and is what led to her death. Rebuffed by him she may or may not have attacked him first but he lied from the start. Still, she had no business being out late, using meth and drinking. Neither do non transgender girls who does the same who also become victims of violent crimes. Political propaganda? Transgender people have been around for millennials, including ancient times, and accepted as a third gender. (Transgender was only recently coined.) There's country's today who accepts and even feels culturally honored to have "third gender" people. Again, political propaganda? I'd say in the US and some other countries they make it political by marginalizing these people, as does archaic religious beliefs.
Wait. So you’re saying that if I say it’s sunny when it’s clearly raining and you go out into the rain, my lie still matters? We were in front of an open window. At that point, I’m assuming you just like rain, if you get my drift. Especially if you’d seen all my Snapchats of “clear” skies. Y’all are crazy weird.
I'm not against whatever you want to be sexually, but why you think you have the right to go around fooling other people with your gender preference? It's not fair to other people that is straight just because you feel you have rights. Respect before anything else. I don't say that the victim got what she looked for but, who started the game knowing what she was doing?
Playing gender games can be dangerous. It's not possible to change one's gender. We can only pretend. Biology is biology. I refuse to play the gender game.
Agreed...if you allow your child to be who they want to be you need to educate them on the consequences of situations like these. This isn't something that you can just pull the curtain on and cover up and hope the person will see past it. It's something that strikes the core of everything we are as human beings. Did he deserve to go to prison? Yes. I think this happened more out of anger for embarrassment that he couldn't tell that she was a he and he allowed it to escalate like he did. As for the teen his brain was not fully developed to be making decisions that caused him to end up where he did. Sad story.
I can see this possibly feeling like a sexual assault to a straight male and possibly even a life long trauma/ptsd, sexual dysfunction, depression etc. this is a subject that must be addressed and there should be laws similar to rape for people that do not disclose. Unfortunately the shame would likely keep most men from reporting it though
Weird,the last fella was dropping of his wife who has never been late for work before yet drives the opposite direction to her workplace to go find a truck that no-one knows of and all the while his wife doesn't do her routine call to her mum also . Hes going to leave his truck at the customers house and drive this truck with the faulty windscreen and drop off his wife before going home to fix it ? A camera picks up his car going one way but no truck the other. There would be plenty of time before they left the house to do plenty of damage to her. I personally would have found him guilty.
You mean the child that got shot 6 times is allowed to continue their dangerous behavior that got them shot, turns up missing less than a year later... Shocking how something like that can happen with such great parenting
Those “friends” are delusional! Someone isn’t a “tough cookie” because the gun shots didn’t hit any major organs. That makes someone damn fortunate to have an opportunity to see another day.
He got shot 6 times over disagreements with his drug dealer. So, he obviously was violent, but society treates them as if they're entitled to do anything, which makes me believe that he did attack David and it got ugly.
@@JR-lw3msno evidence really 🤨 How about his distain for the LGBT community.((((Did you forget his comment 😏?)) Straight people want straight people. Had Nikki been honest before it proceeded to fooling around.....both would have immediately stopped gone their own way. That guy wanted nothing to do with that community. Nothing so....there for honesty most definitely would have saved Nikki
Couldn't even watch the hunting one fully. I don't condone violence, but I find it hilarious when people surrounded by guns are surprised when gun violence happens in their family. Sorry, if you're a big game hunter, it's probably the risk you take.
Nikki didn't help himself when doing drugs and hooking up with strangers. Some responsibility for putting oneself in danger has to be part of the equation.
TransPanic is a thing and maybe we should be talking about the honesty that trans people should have with everyone before entering into any kind of sexual relationship or any kind of relationship she would still be alive had she been honest beforehand I believe not that I'm justifying what he did it's wrong yes but transpanic is a thing and it's a form of sexual assault as far as I'm concerned
Well, look at it this way you have to be upfront with the individual that you’re falling around with and not let them find out that you’re a different sex through physical touch which I’m sure for some people it would probably be pretty devastating and probably acting in a way so I think if there is a individual there, that is a transsexual gay by whatever lesbian queer they need to be upfront and tell the other person you know because just like in this case I think there’s more than CI and more than what’s being told and the truth is the truth is The other one that’s dead unfortunately so I just feel that being upfront will take care of a lot of crimes like this. I think so. I gotta say I’m sorry about the loss for both sides of the family families with both parties are and families are paying a price so with all that just be upfront, straight up easy
So are we going to gloss over that “Nikki”. Was shot over drugs 10:00 Dudes parents failed him. The young man was 17 years old. This is a troubled teen, and the mother gets to hide over the tragedy. She is also guilty of a crime to her son. I wish they would treat these crimes as crimes not as social soap box agendas platforms.
100%. My 29 year old son was white and straight. No one at the San Diego Sheriff's Dept. gave a crap about even investigating his death. I wonder if my son, Jonathan, was trans or gay would his case have been treated with at least SOME concern?
17!? I thought he was in his 30's. And shame on him for being deceptive! And mother and daughter? No. This is wrong on many levels. And that damn interviewer asking about getting shot 6 times but completely ignores that he was shot because of drugs. No accountability. Gross.
She sure didn’t deserve to be killed, with that said, she had no right to not disclose. Not everyone accepts trans. This David person, he was angry he wasn’t given a choice. He does not see non bio women as women. The entire situation is ju.
How small of a man must you be to go and hunt something solely as a trophy? I grew up where the purpose of hunting was to put meat in the freezer, not antlers on a wall. My dad killed his limit pretty much every year and only ever had one mounted and naturally it was the largest one he ever got and he had hunted it for literally years. He didn’t pay someone to bring him to what equates to a stockyard
Ask Trump
@@ingridakerblom7577he’s in your mind all the time huh? Must be love!
totally agree
Hunting is for the weak, no
challenge in it. If it can’t shoot back I don’t want any part of it.
Does it hurt much?😂😂@@ingridakerblom7577
U have to be honest & up front with ppl.& Not let them discover ur sexual identity thru physical contact!!! A man fondling someone they thought was a woman,only to find out they have the same equipment as u,can be quite a shock to say the least!!!
I think it is a form of sexual assault to not disclose your transgender identity before engaging in sex with a person who identifies as straight. Clearly such an ommision is to proceed without consent of the other party
Yeeeeessssssssss please!!
I can see how something like this would happen. I don't agree with what happened but i understand.
@@juniorjohnson5961 Nah,I definitely don't agree with what dude did,but that situation would DEFINITELY be a problem!!!
Agreed 👍
I'm having a hard time feeling sympathy for someone that hunted animals for sport.
#sorrynotsorry 🤷🏾♀️
Agree
Agreed.
I'm sorry she was murdered, but also horrified by what they considered to be "targets" 😢 Lions and Leopards..... Hunting to eat is one thing, trophies are another, though I have no right to judge anyone 🥺 So sad
How is that even a sport?
@@gretchenkiley6615 It's not judgement .... it's defending animals who can't protect themselves.
As we're supposed to be the "superior" and more "evolved" animal we have a responsibilty to protect the other animals
The real lesson here is don't try to hook up with people you met a few hours ago, get to know them first.
Not really. Bianca Rudolph thought she knew her own husband of decades and he still murdered her over a mistress and insurance money.
@@gemmaburman7767 💯
The actual lesson is don’t try to trick another man into having sex if you’re a man.
You obviously didn't party in the 70's or 80's. 😂
The wisest comment on this whole thread
Hunt a leopard? That is utterly disgusting. What a sick woman.
Agreed. And all the other animals they killed and stood on their bodies for pictures. Disgusting.
What about her killer husband?
Are you vegan?
1:02:48 this man is a detective and he believes any story you spin on him? Great detective 👍🏼
@@mrsV420”you are telling me so I can believe you.” 😂🤦🏻♂️
Hunt a leopard has a really sad and awful connotation 😢
Some compassionate people here in the comments, who have zero tolerance for trophy hunting. Good to see there's still some decency in the world. ❤👍
💯 AGREE 🐾🐾❤️
killing is in there blood shamefull
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@@caraodoherty5940 have a great day, okay? ❤️🩷❤️
Kind, caring people don't go and hunt and slaughter defenceless animals....karma, hunter gets hunted.....
kind and caring people are honest from the jump
The defendant was the victim he was assaulted defending himself against a man
As a gay men , trans people should be honest with people they link up with. I dont care how much you pass, be honest and transparent with the gender assigned to you at birth. Not everyone is gonna tolerate those kind of lies. They will un alive you. Period.
I agree
But of courses its not this guy's (Tran) , fault.
I hate that it's always framed that the trans person was being deceptive. Many of these men KNOW the person they are hooking up with is trans. They k*ll out of guilt and shame. Trans woman Kesaria Abramidze was recently killed by a guy who knew she was trans and wanted to hide their relationship. Let's be real: the trans panic excuse is just victim blaming
@@scribblemyface people just hook up with their own kinds.
Nah - they deceptive.
I can understand he lost it when he found out she was a “he” but he should have just used words to express himself and walked away never to contact the person again.
He was under the heavy influence at the time as he was drinking…. How can you give valid consent when you have absolutely no clue that the person w/you has a mental disorder as evidenced by it’s ICD10 Code and think that they are the opposite sex or depending on the time of day they identify as a Man vs Women vs It vs We vs They/Them etc. & etc; This is RAPE.
@nancydiehl296 Didn't stop him from driving while DRINKING
You and Nikki sat in the driveway, she obviously wanted drug money for her addiction
Nikki was out going enough to tell him, Dave I'm transgender
He didn't want to take her in the house but was ok to have sex in a vehicle 😒
It more than that though. I think he felt humiliated and enraged. Then realizing she was a man, decided to deal with it like a man with violence.
@TangledTrueCrime Using violence because your feel feels are hurt is the opposite of dealing with it like a man. That's dealing with it like a child upset another child took your Legos.
@@nancydiehl296he can’t just be like “oh wait actually nvm” ????? you sound delusional
Why deceiving someone tho?Be honest and give the other person a choice cos you never know how they gonna react to this kind of "surprise"...Especially men🤷🏼♀️
nice victim blaming... gosh you're terrible.
They are not victim blaming.That is a true statement.@@anna-river
@14:52 per David's own words Nikki told him she was trans while they were sitting in the driveway.
Did you ppl even watch the video? Or just hear the words LGBT and all rational sense left your mind rendering you unable to watch the video?
Yes it's victim blaming. You keep wanting to revise the story to pretend Nikki didn't say she was trans, but the killer himself confirmed she told him. So if you'd like to support the killer, believe his testimony.
@pandamandimax exactly, she told him after getting into his car not before -you're bit slow aren't you!?
I have put guns into cases almost my entire 40 year life and never once have a done so in a way where I could be hit by the weapon discharging. I doubt an experienced hunter would have done that to themselves either.
i've had accidental misfires but that one is impossible as shown
I agree. I also find it odd that they chose a 12 ga to hunt in Africa, to take down a large animal. Don't get me wrong I love my shotguns, but that's not the one I would take to hunt any large animals.
Drugs and alcohol are the most common reasons for lots of pain and suffering
@EdneiraPeraldo-z3r sure without any money no one can afford either one.
Drugs can be a pain relief
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Most people who suffer with depression also take some kind of drug. Anything to numb the pain!
@@SisterGoldenHair212 not referring to legal prescribed drugs for people who must have a medical condition, talking about illegal drugs and abuse of drugs.
Wow-these are all episodes I've never seen before-thank you 48 Hours!
You can see incompetence just by looking at that Zambian ex police commander's face and his silly smirk. How can a whole professional take someone's word in a death investigation? What kind of investigation can be concluded from what a possible suspect says? What kind of police and investigative training do they do in Zambia? It makes you wonder how many Zambians never get justice and how many get wrongfully imprisoned because of shoddy police work.
This is new to you?
😅😅😅😅@@wagner5424
why dont you go showem
American rich guy with tons of money to cover up a crime - looks like the face of a man that was paid to say what he said!!!!
he doesn't look incompetent. he looks enriched...from the bribe he likely took from the dentist
I'm just glad she never killed a leopard. Don't really care about people like them.
Hard to care about someone who was going to do something as evil to an innocent animal
Have the same compassion for her than she had for the animals she killed
@@charomiami I'm having the same compassion for her as she had for other living beings
Nikki had a responsibility to tell her real gender to any romantic interest.
Yep
Agree.
Exactly. She shouldn’t have been ashamed. It’s better to be rejected than killed
Agreed!
My gut is telling me there’s more to this story.
That Zambian police chief is so gullible. All anyone has to do is tell him something and he believes it because it's coming from their mouth. He's in the wrong job, unless he was trying to sweep the crime under the carpet because prosecuting would discourage tourism. But everything he said makes him look incompetent. Police get used to liars but it's like this guy wouldn't believe anyone would not tell the truth.
Pretty sure it’s a cultural difference. Not defending it just stating why he might be inclined towards a mentality like that. If that is the case you cannot really judge him for it.
Agree
Don’t underestimate how easy it is to pay off people in developing countries.
Add a whole lot of $$$
Same here in the Philippines Police are the biggest Mafia in the Country
The final case where the Dad murdered his wife by beating her to death. The son & daughter should be ashamed of themselves for taking the killers side. He most def. killed her. He couldn't be more guilty if he tattooed his forehead saying " I did it"
You’d think Todd would be screaming & wailing, demanding they FIND that truck that killed his wife AND sue the company for her death!!! If innocent, did he show up or call the cops daily, weekly, monthly…asking if they found that truck?! For family members to think mom’s or dad’s are always innocent is mind boggling!!
It's denial. The hurt of having to accept what the loved one did is so hard that the try to go on pretending they didn't do it, even if there is evidence or not.
Nobody deserves to be murdered. HOWEVER, she should've told him way before meeting up, if she does this would've never happened. Period.
@@brentgardiner5576
100% correct!👍
When a very loved one takes the life of another of your very loved ones.....when they have always been good loving people......or have always pretended to be.......your mind, I suggest from a different type experience,.......actually doesn't find it possible, finds it ridiculous actually, and the mind that has no previous thoughts of it being possible , having no reasons to suspect......automatically I think (🤷♂️) our brains begin to act to protect our ability to survive trauma....and certainly to protect from additional trauma.
I think, (for what that may be worth)......our brains or our conscience thinking abilities as humans, also have in our bodies the Adrenalin, or blood cells....OR whatever immediately sets in to fight off disease, trauma, start healing.....forever, or temporarily until the specific brain, mind, emotions,etc can handle it while retaining our sanity.
Perhaps amnesia and disbelief are two of those built in coping mechanisms, .....how is it possible not to believe it when you are told that a loved one is dead by the police, even after you have seen them, that they are gone.....but in your mind you concoct that it isn't so?
How is it possible to know something even....yet not believe it, not accept it?
I had always thought it was self deception on purpose, which sometimes is, but not always the case.
The mind, consciences, everyone with the same basic physical brain thinking, perceiving, behaving to differently is not something science can explain.
I didn't believe the brain could play the tricks it can on itself, or what appears to be itself.
I had never conceived of the idea that our brains come to our aid to save some trauma for us to go forward. Until mine did.
So much reasonable doubt, if he did it or not he shouldn’t have been convicted, everyone better hope they never find themselves on trial for something they didn’t do so many morons on juries that don’t understand the law.
This hunting stuff is disgusting, but this is quite common in wealthy weirdos…he picked this place to off his wife because he knew he could get away with it…or so thought..how can you shoot yourself with a rifle? It’s almost impossible to…
Right?!?
Couldn’t have agreed more.
City girl explains why you think that way. All good when someone else kills your food So long as you don’t have to?
Hunting is natural to all mammals and it's what made homosapiens top of the food chain... what is disgusting is diseases that totally defy nature and rather than treating their mental illness they call it normal and create laws to protect it.... now that's disgusting. Anything unnatural is not normal and if it's not normal it's a disease... a sickness... it should be treated.
I take it that most of the people, in most of these comments, don't eat meat. 🤔
People should tell everyone their sexual orientation. It's dangerous to keep those secrets.
I absolutely agree. I don’t think she should be killed for it, but it can really freak a man out especially with his background. She should have told him and maybe this wouldn’t have happened. I’ve heard this wasn’t the first time she did this with a straight man.
Also this suspect is not only successful, but his family has a lot of money. I believe they will keep fighting until he is released.
@Missstrish exactly 💯 agree... it's horrible and outrageous she got taken and he should pay for what he did. BUT it's also not ok to tell someone until after being physical... clearly he wasn't seeing what she was.. AND SHE KNEW THAT so she could have said something... or even nicely gotten out of HIS car not start fighting in his car.. js!! she didn't tell him till after they had kissed and she was fondling him!!!!
Right!!?? Totally agree!!
The thing is it can be as equally as dangerous to tell people your biological sex or sexual orientation especially in an age full of transphobia and homophobia. It can be hard for us trans folk no matter what we do
The third one is rough. Usually when a guy is going to off his wife, they have problems leading up to it. These people seemed like what everyone would want their lives to be like... The pipe falling off a truck might sound unrealistic, but I've seen it happen. (By the way, pipes don't "fling" themselves out of trucks and land flat then bounce up, they slide, hit end first and cartwheel like a MF.) BUT the husband changing his story THREE TIMES just seems odd. Especially to do it on the witness stand, when your lawyers have had time to ask the guy you're going to use and MAKE SURE... Why would he do that if he's not hiding something?
I don't know... But for 12 people to say no reasonable doubt just proves what George Carlin always said, "You're getting judged by 12 people that are too dumb to get out of jury duty."
Did they say or speculate what his motive was?
@@xxNinjaclanxx-id9rs This show did not. It's odd because they seemingly don't have one. Now, you don't NEED a motive to off someone, but it helps to understand why, and this case, just wow... I'm actively looking up this story because I'm so interested in it, and unfortunately there isn't much that's not just pure trial footage. (This is the only documentary on YT that I've found). His police interview should be interesting, so I'm going to start there. Then I guess I'm going to have to watch court.
Peace out Ninja
Yeah i thought the same about the pipe like how did they find him guilty but then heard the state of her body the injuries like to the BACK of her head?? Then then the cuts and scratches all over him? Yep he’s 💯 guilty
Agree about the pipe. This happened to my brother, the pipe was like a projectile off the back of a truck, went right through the windshield, don’t know how my brother was able to move out of the way, the pipe went all the way through to the back seat right at the drivers side. Thankfully he was ok and just had to replace the windshield, the truck kept driving and never knew it even happened, I’m sure.
@@shadoejones3288 Wow. Yeah I can almost guarantee they didn't know it was missing until they were like, "Why did you only bring 49 pipes, we ordered 50?" or whatever. That's an amazing story to live through, and I'm very glad he's unharmed. God bless.
If you become a transgender, I feel that every transgender should be upfront about who they really are not manipulate not leave someone on upfront. Let them know that you was born a man, but now a female, or you was born a female and now a man let me or female know, and let them decide if they want to be with you or not not to tell the truth to me is deceiving a person lying to a person. My heart goes out to the family is sad that she had to lose her life I’m not against anyonebeing or who they wanna be but at least be true to the person that you’re trying to be with because it can hurt other people as well. Rest in peace Nikkie.
You'll be glad to hear Nikki followed your advice. @14:52 watch again.
BE HONEST . DO NOT MISLEAD PEOPLE. !!
Or....get a red neck radar....
How do you know she wasn't? Don't victim blame.. for all you know he participated. I could tell immediately and that's just from pictures. Maybe he willingly participated and then afterwards felt disgust and took it out on her. Wouldn't be the first time. Don't assume.
@@JS-yf9xhHow do you know Nickie was honest?
@@ponygirlusanobody knows because he killed her. We only have the murders version. For all we know he is a rapist and a murderer.
48 hours is hard to beat!!!
47 hours
@@RTD553😂😂😂
Woke as hell. Hard to watch now.
@MrTerrrrible unfortunately most things we all used to love have gone woke 🤮
@@mamayoung91 Just look what they did to Dr Who. Pathetic.
The revenge of the leopard. Sick hobby, sick people.
It's disgusting ... leopards are beautiful creatures and have a right to live
Welcome to the world of the rich and uncaring…
defo
@@citygirlingraham EAT THE RICH
Yeah, it might sound bad, but zero sympathy for her. She was a monster.
I didn't even need to watch the full story. As soon as they showed Nikki's picture, I knew he was a guy. David is full of crap. He knew Nikki was a guy.
You Cant tell, she looks like a young beautiful woman until i saw the younger him.. she should be honest of her identity.. am not condemning what david did but I can't blame him he might be disgusted and gross and sometimes we cannot control our emotions specially with alcohol or drugs on our system.
I think so too
Nikki should have been honest to him before it going to far d
The honesty would have prevented this.
Everyone has rights but people need to be honest with each other.
Sorry it came to this for these two
Nicki's mother saying that he led the way is very telling. Maybe he could have used an actual parent. Maybe her son would still be alive.
Thank God someone else with common sense who sees that mom as what she is
That “ Nikki” guy was not blameless in his death. Deceiving someone like that would result in at very least a broken bones
Yep.
He literally put himself into his own destruction because the other guy had he known the truth would have never approached Nikki and thus....... Nikki would still be alive.
Straight people want straight people... period
Why all the freaking complications messiness
By staying true she should’ve been honest.
How do we know what happened? I don't believe this guy on anything he says.
Isn't it responsible to inform who you are to potential sex partner? Wasnt she fearful?
Yes, especially if you don’t want to get beat up or killed, I have a transgender friend who NEVER tried to fool anyone. But I guess that’s the difference between an adult and a teenager.
yes thats why she did exactly that, did you even watch the video ?
@@kazukispeachexactly, it's a bunch of people who weren't there pretending they know when she told him. She doesn't get to tell her side.
Yes, Plus, I'm from Vancouver, and I know that area. No teenager, especially one supposed to be female, should be out in that area in the middle of the night! At 17, why was the child [I won't say daughter because that is not accurate], be into drugs and picking up men at that age?? Why was this allowed?
@@kazukispeach after the fact. No child, and at 17 that's what they were, should be out in that area picking up men in the middle of the night! If you watched the video, that nothing was said, he found out by default when they were making out. Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive. The child had already had a brush with death being shot 6 times over a drug deal, and apparently learned nothing about poor decisions, and mother didn't stop the behaviour. Curfew for teens in Vancouver...it's there for a reason. Top protect
Hunting is so gross.
Probably one of the most ethical ways to eat/harvest meat 🥩
If you need to hunt for food, then fine. It is what it is. But hunting for "fun" and "sport" is the most disgusting thing to do.
I hunt for meat, with that said, I would have to be starving before I would eat a cat.
Don't pretend you are something you are not. Calling a man a woman because he thinks he is one is an insult to all women.
lion hunting? dentist is nuts, who in the hell wants to shoot a majestic big cat!?
Thought the same thing. I'd rather try to pet a lion than shoot one. People are strange.
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Yup remember the pics of Trump's son holding an endangered species he killed? He had to pay safari guides to help him do it 😂. Just the most insecure type of man I guess.
As far as the windshield case goes...How pathetic is it that those children stick up for their poor poor father and didn't once she'd a tear for their murdered mother..😢 It doesn't take a mental giant to clearly see that this so called man murdered his wife!! Everyone involved in investigating this case is clearly incompetent!!!!!!!!
The daughter is clearly a daddy's girl, while the look on the son's face tells a different story.. Clearly some silent sibling rivalry is at play here...
i like how that DA called out the bs.. i hope they see the light soon
What was his motive? Did they say or speculate?
Hey you said month full then God bless
We just need HONEST people whoever they are FROM THE VERY START!!!!!❤
Waa she not?
@@marshapieroni6677 no, he found out when they were groping one another and when he pursued her, he realized they had the same parts. She never told him and that's wrong in itself, putting herself in a very unsafe position.
she literally was.
@@OhanaM in his first interview he literally said that she told him before hand. that second story where she told him while they were already being sexual was AFTER he changed his story saying it was self defense. why in the world would she not tell him if hes about to find out anyways.... which is why she told him like he said BEFORE they had sexual contact.
@@kazukispeach up.... we DON'T know that he/she wants honest about sexuality...... that's NOT been mentioning. And from MULTIPLE OTHER CASES similar to this????..... I'd say, truth wasn't actually brought out until..... intimacy started. Sorry, that's not acceptable
If you are trans gender- please be upfront and honest with anyone you have a romantic interest in. David absolutely deserved prison time for murdering her- but as an actual woman, I can tell you, you have to be careful and not put yourself in situations like that.
Yup. There’s certainly HIGH risk in revealing TMI upon an initial meeting with a stranger. 💀
Yea absolutely true David got scammed by this dude thank God for only 19 yrs of prison should have been 2
That's the tactic he uses to escape consequences. In truth, there is no necessity to deceive men. OMG, do you realize the number of men interested in trans individuals?
I have no sympathy for people who hunt for sport and fun. You fear death, imagine how animals feel.
Big game hunting is disgusting. Honestly, can't say i feel sorry for either of them.
That’s how some African communities stay fed. They don’t have the luxuries you may have.
@@_nick_dyeah, but that's survival food. Not luxury, "fun". It's a necessity.
@@chibi_rabbit there are millions of Americans that hunt for food on the table. Most appreciate and honor the animal 100 times more than the average person who buys their food on a plastic tray.
@@TinnyDeetotally agree. Ppl who legally hunt for their food are different than hunting a big animal for a trophy.
Free this guy
I've had a latter fly off the back of a work van speeding down the instate coming straight for my windshield.
I slammed on my brakes, and when it landed, it was only an inch from my car. The van never stopped, and everyone behind me had stopped. I drove around it, and another man got it off the road.
It freaked me out because it was flying 😳.
Thank goodness you’re alive to tell the story… 😅
My step father (RIP) used to haul and sell scrap iron. When I was a kid, there were 2 instances that I remember where a short piece of metal fell off and DAMN STRAIGHT it can do something similar to what their windshield looked like. BUT.... The way the guy behaved otherwise makes me suspicious. Otherwise I would have believed him him whole heartedly.
Looking at all the comments seems nobody supporting nikki and her family's false narrative of it being a 'hate crime'.........good to see.
Because he Nikki caused her how destruction.
Had Nikki been honest other guy would have never approached her and thus still alive.
Yes, because if he had been honest about his identity in the first place, this would have probably never happened.
Glad the office manager went to jail.
I fail to see how nikki's law will prevent any future incidents. It just prevents a defense claim to a situation that could be avoided if the trans person was honest up Front. There should be a law that makes trans people disclose that information within a certain time frame of meeting/dating someone.
I don't condone killing anyone who isn't threatening your life, but I can understand how someone can become so enraged upon finding out the woman you were trying to be intimate with was a man, or vice versa. It's the ultimate catfish, and is really no different than finding out your partner knowingly gave you an STD , which is a crime.
It is absolutely baffeling to me that many of the top comments here talk about that Nikki should have told him about her gender and not a single word about that he shouldn't have unalived her. Classic blame shifting. And btw - he lied so blatantly - who tells you that he didn't lie about that, too? That she didn't indeed tell him? Who tells you that they did make out at all? That that whole story isn't a cover up? I am much more inclined to believe in favor of the victim instead a single word out of a man's mouth who unalived a person!!
you better believe
He had bloody knuckles and a scratched up neck.
yes, from the pipe
@@NyanyiC🤣🤣
how can you go hunting for Jaguars which are in the Red Book?? Maybe it's karma
Leopard
Hallefrickenluyah
@@siouxsioux2725 makes any difference? to hunt someone just to entertain yourself is disgusting
*Leopards NOT jaguars.
I'm sorry this happened. I don't know the truth.... But let's be honest, a person high on meth is capable of doing anything, especially being violent... She just felt she got disrespected and I can see her flipping out.....
People tried killing for a lot less.
I think if he had just called 911 and tried to resuscitate him, things could have gone a different way in the charge, if any.
I truly agree. Wholeheartedly! I recently saw someone on Meth shoot their 6mnth old grandchild in the head bc she was "possesed". Also, the justice system always try to say that killings like this is a Hate crime. Smh. He overreacted and was grossed out bc of the deceit. It's a crime of passion at best!
The mother continues to claiming her 17 year son is a victim while her son is drugging and victimized a man by pretending to be a female. This is a sick case.
Sick... that's a little harsh.
Right and mom needs to pick up that bible and actually read it .
Absolutely!!! Great comment.
Delusional.
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Nikki had already established a history of violence against those she perceived as doing someone wrong (per her mother's report). Add methamphatamine to that kind of psycholigy, is it really far fetched to think Nikki may have attacked him for rejecting her? I don't know, but I think that would create reasonable doubt as to it being a hate crime. Juat because someone is raised to believe it is a sin does not mean they hate the person or would ever harm them.
Psychology
These people Need to be upfront who they’re all are I’d be mad if I-met a guy and find out they are a woman in real life ,cause surgery or not you are and will always be what your born as . It’s sad what happened but once more be upfront ,Not everyone agrees with those lifestyles.
Who cares if you agree.
You are who you are, but no one is the same person they were when they were born. A trans person is a trans person. They aren't pretending, or crazy, or trying to trick anyone. If you accept a huge range of genders and sexes exist, and remember the possibility of different body parts is there, then you can just calmly say what your preference is.
1:13:20 I promise you Insurance companies have access to ballistics experts and everything necessary to protect their billion dollar enterprises. To suggest otherwise is disingenuous
They do, but if I’m not mistaken, I don’t think they bother if the cause of death has been determined. Between the cost of experts and court costs to fight the family likely exceeds the cost of just paying out (at least in most instances). I suspect the insurance companies would have investigated and put up more of a battle had the original autopsy listed her death as “undetermined”
50:58 why even cover this story these people sound like monsters
This should not have happened. If everyone was honest about who they are before anything intimate happens then this situation can be avoided 😢
They should have to tell a man if. They are dating. I have sons that would never touch another man.
Mine too, and they are not violent at all, but a man dressed as a woman trying to fool them I think would end with a black eye.
why do you care so much about who your sons want to touch....
She *did* tell him, that's why he freaked out. Ohhh wait, that was his 1st story, you choose to believe his 2nd story because it fits your narrative better.
@@AliceA333regardless of how he found out, he was tricked by another male. That is NOT ok.
"She", "She", "She"....he was a dude!!! A dude with a clear mental illness but instead of helping him, society and his family made it worse. 40 years ago this wouldn't have been on TV for example, certainly not portraying his behavior as normal. Now people who find it immoral, perverted, and a mental illness that goes against all the laws of nature, are the hated ones. People like me. Hate away but you won't change my opinion. I believe in loving the sinner while hating the sin. So don't accuse me of saying things I haven't said...and would never say. But I stand behind what I have. The whole thing is to disgusting to watch.
Absolutely! Couldn't agree with you more.
Lying will get you in trouble
Depends who dies it and when
I do not believe he killed her because she was trans, he killed her because of an altercation that blew up over pure deception. While yes, I do not condone his actions, are they understood how it ensued yes. If she went on an attacked him, which I can also see happen considering she was very confident in her identity, was likely angry because he rejected her, her past history and moreso on meth, I agree with 2nd degree, but not the hate crime conviction.
Hate Crime - the state mandating it's citizens will celebrate and bend over backwards for what the state deems as a "marginalized" community. The dirty little secret is that hate crime(s) only go one way and everyone knows it. Lazy Jay has been a failure of a governor for Washington for everyday working people. Only ultra special interest groups benefited from his leftism.
Should have said hey I'm a man before letting it move past, hi, my name is.
Smallest violin 🎻 in the world for nicky
This literally happened to me. We were traveling down I-75 going 70+mph when a lead pipe flew off a flatbed, ricocheted off the road, flew up and hit the windshield on my side. The windshield broke, but being safety glass held! It didn’t make a hole-that to me looks like he held it and drove it through the windshield. Windshields may cave, but they crumble. And they weren’t driving fast. If our windshield held driving 70mph, with an impact of at least 140, I’m very suspicious of this whole story. That pipe would have had to go at the right angle-which looks like he stood there and made it go in. And why was he taking her to “replace a windshield”? Why not drop her off at work then go to “see a man about a windshield”?
I think Bogdanovs sentence is fair.
Nikkis mother needs to take more responsibility for her drug addicted female passing 17yr old trans child being out on the streets playing dangerously, approaching & becoming intimate with men who believe her to be a woman. Smoking Meth & engaging in sexual intimacies with an intoxicated man who believes she is a girl is very dangerpus behaviour for a grown adult nevermind a 17yr old & from how everyone spoke of Nikki i have no doubt he did react with aggression when insulted by Bogdanov. This is physically a 17yr old male & Nikki was no stranger to violence having dodged 6 bullets & come away with grazes she knew how to fight & handle bad situations.
Her being Trans was definitely used as political propaganda & i prefer to hear honesty in criminal cases. The truth is that she was an accident waiting to happen & her trans activist mother should have acted before her death.
Agree. Accountability is no longer. Creating a narrative doesn't simply change facts. A man's character is summed up by the amount of truth one can tolerate.
Well said!! Àgree 100%
Kid needed a lot of help beyond just affirming her gender identity…this is very well said.
Her being trans was an issue Bogdanovs had and is what led to her death. Rebuffed by him she may or may not have attacked him first but he lied from the start.
Still, she had no business being out late, using meth and drinking. Neither do non transgender girls who does the same who also become victims of violent crimes.
Political propaganda? Transgender people have been around for millennials, including ancient times, and accepted as a third gender. (Transgender was only recently coined.)
There's country's today who accepts and even feels culturally honored to have "third gender" people.
Again, political propaganda? I'd say in the US and some other countries they make it political by marginalizing these people, as does archaic religious beliefs.
All he had to do was tell her to get out of his vehicle. So many lives destroyed unnecessarily.
Friend's saying she was down means alot 🙌🏽 Fun strong Confident 💚 Good Memories 💜 No Doubt 💐 She deserved a whole life.
*not a young woman
Ray Charles could see that Nicki was trans. He clearly lied.
I believe so also
Wait. So you’re saying that if I say it’s sunny when it’s clearly raining and you go out into the rain, my lie still matters? We were in front of an open window. At that point, I’m assuming you just like rain, if you get my drift. Especially if you’d seen all my Snapchats of “clear” skies.
Y’all are crazy weird.
Don't forget some biological girls are born with more manly features so you can not guess on these things
You live in a country where a dad with anxiety problems has "28 guns in the basement".
I don't care what your lifestyle is, it never gives permission for an officer or anyone to be violent ever on somebody who's different
I'm not against whatever you want to be sexually, but why you think you have the right to go around fooling other people with your gender preference? It's not fair to other people that is straight just because you feel you have rights. Respect before anything else. I don't say that the victim got what she looked for but, who started the game knowing what she was doing?
Playing gender games can be dangerous. It's not possible to change one's gender. We can only pretend. Biology is biology. I refuse to play the gender game.
I agree wholeheartedly.
Agreed...if you allow your child to be who they want to be you need to educate them on the consequences of situations like these. This isn't something that you can just pull the curtain on and cover up and hope the person will see past it. It's something that strikes the core of everything we are as human beings. Did he deserve to go to prison? Yes. I think this happened more out of anger for embarrassment that he couldn't tell that she was a he and he allowed it to escalate like he did. As for the teen his brain was not fully developed to be making decisions that caused him to end up where he did. Sad story.
@@leahforrest9155 Very true and well said.
I can see this possibly feeling like a sexual assault to a straight male and possibly even a life long trauma/ptsd, sexual dysfunction, depression etc. this is a subject that must be addressed and there should be laws similar to rape for people that do not disclose. Unfortunately the shame would likely keep most men from reporting it though
I kinda believe the guy.
It's usually because they don't disclose they are trans and it makes the dude livid. Happens time and time again.
She DID tell him
@awesomebeautiful8782 how do you know? Were you there?
@@awesomebeautiful8782 then that's totally different
Weird,the last fella was dropping of his wife who has never been late for work before yet drives the opposite direction to her workplace to go find a truck that no-one knows of and all the while his wife doesn't do her routine call to her mum also .
Hes going to leave his truck at the customers house and drive this truck with the faulty windscreen and drop off his wife before going home to fix it ?
A camera picks up his car going one way but no truck the other.
There would be plenty of time before they left the house to do plenty of damage to her.
I personally would have found him guilty.
her son
There are always consequences for living a lie. that is what all of these stories/cases have in common.
You mean the child that got shot 6 times is allowed to continue their dangerous behavior that got them shot, turns up missing less than a year later... Shocking how something like that can happen with such great parenting
Those “friends” are delusional! Someone isn’t a “tough cookie” because the gun shots didn’t hit any major organs. That makes someone damn fortunate to have an opportunity to see another day.
You know dam well that the thumbnail had nothing to do with weapons experts, you just wanted me to click............. and I did.
Yeah, no weapons experts here. LOL.
Its sad. But he was tricked. We were not there to see if nikki went crazy on him because he rejected her. Its just a terrible situation.
He got shot 6 times over disagreements with his drug dealer. So, he obviously was violent, but society treates them as if they're entitled to do anything, which makes me believe that he did attack David and it got ugly.
I agree
its confusing to detectives bc when they find the body, its a body of a man, not a woman..so their first thought is to look for names of missing men..
Lmao 😂😂😂
Always be upfront on who you are before you even meet a male
It's was a sexual date for money and drugs
Simple
If Nicky would have been upfront with the guy in the first place they would've never hooked up and this wouldn't have happened
She didn't approach him, he approached her. Who is to say that she wasn't honest with him?
@@JR-lw3ms No evidence was presented to show that 'she' was honest with David.
@@JR-lw3msDavid is the victim of being scammed by a him not her
@@JJJJ-gl2uf No evidence that she wasn't either.
@@JR-lw3msno evidence really 🤨
How about his distain for the LGBT community.((((Did you forget his comment 😏?))
Straight people want straight people.
Had Nikki been honest before it proceeded to fooling around.....both would have immediately stopped gone their own way. That guy wanted nothing to do with that community.
Nothing so....there for honesty most definitely would have saved Nikki
Couldn't even watch the hunting one fully. I don't condone violence, but I find it hilarious when people surrounded by guns are surprised when gun violence happens in their family. Sorry, if you're a big game hunter, it's probably the risk you take.
I don't agree with trophy hunting, it sickens me. I do hunt for food only tho.
Number of people Victim blaming Nikki is running rampant and thats absolutely disgusting
YES!!!
Nikki didn't help himself when doing drugs and hooking up with strangers. Some responsibility for putting oneself in danger has to be part of the equation.
@@JJJJ-gl2uf SHE wasn't murdered because she was doing drugs , he murdered her because she was trans n his religion says it's wrong
@@JJJJ-gl2uf Quite true. Seems as though Nikki's mom treated him like her bff instead of his parent. Very, very sad.
FREE DAVID!!! HE PROTECTED HIMSELF FROM THAT DUDE!!!
Should have gotten him help as a youth.. someone prolly touched him
No one deserves to be murdered but Nikki should've not hid that information to begin with. Its not fair for either of them.
I remember seeing a comment when this came out, "Maybe he needed a parent not a friend".
TransPanic is a thing and maybe we should be talking about the honesty that trans people should have with everyone before entering into any kind of sexual relationship or any kind of relationship she would still be alive had she been honest beforehand I believe not that I'm justifying what he did it's wrong yes but transpanic is a thing and it's a form of sexual assault as far as I'm concerned
I think it is pretty dangerous leading a man on who thinks you are a woman. Let them know from the onset. Surprising them with it could be fatal.
If there’s one thing I’ve learned from the book of Christ it’s that Nicholas isn’t in heaven sorry to those who need to see this
I believe him about the pipe because Nikki was doing drugs. His telling the truth
Huh?
Big LAME hunting! Sad!
Aren’t you supposed to tell the truth in court? Everyone calling the dude “her”? It’s a little ducking confusing to say the least
Well, look at it this way you have to be upfront with the individual that you’re falling around with and not let them find out that you’re a different sex through physical touch which I’m sure for some people it would probably be pretty devastating and probably acting in a way so I think if there is a individual there, that is a transsexual gay by whatever lesbian queer they need to be upfront and tell the other person you know because just like in this case I think there’s more than CI and more than what’s being told and the truth is the truth is The other one that’s dead unfortunately so I just feel that being upfront will take care of a lot of crimes like this. I think so. I gotta say I’m sorry about the loss for both sides of the family families with both parties are and families are paying a price so with all that just be upfront, straight up easy
So are we going to gloss over that “Nikki”. Was shot over drugs 10:00 Dudes parents failed him. The young man was 17 years old. This is a troubled teen, and the mother gets to hide over the tragedy. She is also guilty of a crime to her son. I wish they would treat these crimes as crimes not as social soap box agendas platforms.
100%. My 29 year old son was white and straight. No one at the San Diego Sheriff's Dept. gave a crap about even investigating his death. I wonder if my son, Jonathan, was trans or gay would his case have been treated with at least SOME concern?
17!? I thought he was in his 30's. And shame on him for being deceptive! And mother and daughter? No. This is wrong on many levels. And that damn interviewer asking about getting shot 6 times but completely ignores that he was shot because of drugs. No accountability. Gross.
Y'all in the comments believing the killer's word and blaming the victim.... what even is your life??????
Rest in peace and power, Nikki.
He is in peace for scamming David thank God for only 19 yrs should be less
@@sonofagun3866🤡
Unnatural acts,bring natural disasters.😮
She sure didn’t deserve to be killed, with that said, she had no right to not disclose. Not everyone accepts trans. This David person, he was angry he wasn’t given a choice. He does not see non bio women as women. The entire situation is ju.