HOW TO FIT A RECESSED CONCEALED SHOWER VALVE - Plumbing Tips
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 26 апр 2018
- This video will show you how to install and fit a recessed, concealed shower valve. We show you how to chase your pipes into the wall, how to chop out the wall to the right depth for your shower valve and how to successfully connect your water connections and pressure test.
I realise I forgot a few things (!) so 1. I forgot my gloves! 2. I forgot to show you how to square the shower valve, or use wood/packers to square it off. Check my Insta as there's a post there about it!
🚀 LEARN PLUMBING ONLINE IN MY STRUCTURED COURSE (50% Before March): www.learnplumbingonline.com
🛠 AMAZON TOOL STORE: www.amazon.co.uk/shop/plumberp...
🥾 10% Off my workboots + workwear Use Plumberparts10: www.bigboots.co.uk/discount/p...
👓 10% Off Safestyle Sunglasses Use PLUMBER10: safestyle.com.au/?ref=PLUMBER10
Learn Plumbing Online is perfect for future apprentices, homeowners who want to understand and tackle more plumbing jobs in the home, handymen who keep turning down the odd plumbing job and more. With practical follow along video lessons and discussion board you can boost your knowledge in my amazing trade. Sign up now: wwwlearnplumbingonline.com
**VISIT OUR SPONSORS**
www.traderadiators.com | www.stuart-turner.co.uk 
Хобби
*Links to the tools I USE EVERYDAY in the description above!* Still uploading helpful video today! Plus Follow my Vlog, TimesWithJames ruclips.net/user/timeswithjames
could yu post the link to the wall chaser
Hi mate, quick question if you don’t mind... can you tile over expansion foam??
Can you please provide a link to your double disc ankle grinder please.
These showers installations are great !! Especially when the tiler and plasterer tell you the finished depth and then decide to change it so you can't get the valve on afterwards
Thankful for all the time and effort you took to show us this install and what to look for
Great tips! Am about to fit a recessed, concealed shower valve that combines a wall mounted bath spout, hand-held shower bit and overhead rain showerhead next week and it's great to see this covered. Much appreciated!
PS: I am not even going to bother chasing out channels but building a false wall, as having a concealed cistern and wall hung toilet along the same wall.
Brilliant instructional !! Just what I'm looking for....thank you
Thanks James, nice video mate. Have always hated installing these, especially when you find out the blocks you're working with are 3inch thick
Great vid, nice idea about sliding a bit of ply into the cavity. Love the song, PLEASE DONT CHASE THAT WALL, CHASE THAT WALL! gunna be in my head all day.
Ha! Sorry dude!
Thank you for taking your time to make a video and explain to us properly. I appreciate it
Glad it was helpful!
I love your videos James!! You're so funny!! You're the best!! Thanks Xxx.
Good video James, the channel machine really does take away the pain.
So easy explanation. Please keep carrie on . Waiting for the next Vid.
Great Video its one of those jobs that may need more than basic DIY knowledge can be a challenge . I have done a few on older property double skin wall no cavity and few stud walls the old bricked houses are solid compared to new brick ones and I found rather that chassis out for taps it's quicker to go straight through first skin take a few bricks out and only chase pipes in neatly. Put a peace of ply or timber then expansion foam which will actually bond your taps in. I usually use foam on door liners and widows. Foam is used to speed working time and it bonds like shit when expanded some I know some companies use this stuff on door liners without screws. I still put the odd one or two. Great videos I have learned a few things from this guy. And he has a brilliant sense of humour
LOL. Quick burst of Harry Enfield's Tory Boy at 18.50. Thanks J for another great one.
great stuff. you covered all the issues. warts and all.
Thanks again for the video. Useful info as always they are a pain in the arse to fit. I always recommend exposed bar valves. I'm glad you mentioned, Loctite 577 and pressure testing. My most recent one I had in place for maybe a week and I would run the hot/cold head/hose for periods to make sure there were no leaks before I drylined the wall. I wouldn't install one without Loctite on those threads.
Loved the video James
Got to love the Titan wall chaser, nother winner from Screwfix Titan range, made getting ready for sparky so much easier.
Hi James, thank you very much for yet another brilliant and utterly professional video. As a carpenter, I’d most likely be inclined to frame a 100mm wall rather than chase the breeze block, oh yes! And I’d probably think of few designs for resulting alcoves. Thanks a bunch mate. 👍
Have recently purchased one of these concealed units.. it is going straight back in the box and back to the retailer after watching your video James, by the way what a fantastic video it is.
The shower we brought has NO instructions in and if it was not for finding your video would not have a scooby do (Clue) on how to fit it.
However I am quite lucky that I have a 300mm recess behind but it is the (IF) I need to do any maintenance afterwards.
So thank you James for this brilliant Video.
Regards
Steve.
Great content, couldn't do it without you.... 👍 💪
Thanks for the video..
This is exactly the same as an install we did at the start of the week. Glad to hear someone else’s likes to foam them in, looks a feekin mess before it’s cut back mind! Everbuild exact gap works well 👍🏻.
Yeah man, although undoubtedly some numpty will say it burns through the copper or something!
Great video as usual and totally agree the producers need to think about making the fitting of them easier, seems like a misses opportunity for them , and foam... Well ,great in the right hands and in the wrong hands....
No doubt James! Despite the fact that foam is designed to seal pipe entries I heard it could eat through the brickwork too. Naaaasty stuff.
Yes, foam in the wrong hands is just comical...!
For my shower valve I used the Bristan Descent kit. This was the shallowest valve I could find. Also bear in mind that on a brick wall you also have the extra thickness of the render and the tiles which can be as much as three centimetres.
Great tutor like your attention to detail 😊
I’m looking forward to your Chernobyl video. I went there last year and it was utterly fascinating!
HI GUYS! A few mistakes in this vid...or at least OMISSIONS! 1. To get the depth of cut, use the disc depth gauge or with power off measure the depth of the blade with a ruler. 2. Use a ruler/tape to confirm each bit of chasing/wall removal you do. 3. Doing this does not weaken the wall to any substantial point....if you think it does enjoy your foil hat! 3. Finally you can use plywood as a base or packers plus a set square to make sure your valve is square before filling/covering. I did film that bit but for some reason the card got corrupted and by then I'd knocked the bloddy wall down! Anyway, please follow my Instagram on www.plumberparts.co.uk/social.php?social=Instagram THANKS!
Jimbo the link to Loctite product to use for the valve connections??? ... Yet another gr8 video soon you will get an Oscar
Nice one picked up a lot. I always guide customer to service fit. Better all round. Picked up loads from this. Locatite 55, getting that. Always get little weeps on pressure test with ptfe. Love your two disc chaser dust extraction.
Awesome really useful in lots of ways. Thank you
Surface fit sorry. Bloody predictive
No worries dude! Glad to help mate.
plumberparts, You are the worst plumber I have ever seen.
Awesome Video.. I installed one recently , yep it was a royal pain in the backside!
They always are!
Morning James,I don't know where to begin really but I believe I have learned more from you then from my college lol, there for I appreciate you dedication in making videos for us students, you always make the video enjoyable to watch.I REALLY WANT TO MEET YOU hopefully at the installershow if you're going .As I told you on Instagram that I have finished my course about 4 months before the others I believe you motivated me to complete that .Thanks very much for all you're hard work Adam Cassidy
Hi Adam, no worries mate! I will be at Installer show, so hopefully we can meet up for a jar there!
Well done, good man.
You make it look so easy buddy.. my concealed shower valve was a failure . It is now a thermostatic garden feature . ⛲
It's cheaper to get washed at the gym anyway...
Great work you do, top quality and an eye for detail .highly skilled tradesmen are few and far between these days. Your a true craftsman.. Respect.. 👍
I take my trade serious also...
I am a biscuit tester for McVities.. Its Jaffa cake week this week..Anyway..
I used to work for PG Tips before that.. not T tasting, Yack! . I'm a coffee guy. Anyway. I was the chimp in the frock!🐒
Keep up the cracking work buddy.. your the only plumber I know that doesn't wear wellys and a snorkel
Hold tight , as I overheard the vicar say to the choir boy.
Think he was on about a balloon for the village fair..
As he said "keep your lips around it boy, it's getting bigger"
Anyway
Medication time
Night night
Laters
Squiggs
1.7 k in a few hours, nice to see 😎 keep it up buddy lovely stuff. Ps where can I preorder the album for the van?
I have just bought that tool so I hope its good.
Great video James I didn't think anybody would do a video on this subject. Not easy to do. You're right these showers are a headache to do on solid walls. I think they're designed for stud walls
Yeah you're probably right....although I see them installed like this all the time. Much prefer a surface mounted with chased pipes!
Yep if the customer wants it on a certain wall you have no choice
Love the singing ha
Exactly why I had that lyric!
What can I say! I fitted the 3 way version of these into a BRICK wall. Everything you say is true. They are badly designed. The brick is impossible to level; I had to cut the recess then render it smooth. Expanding PU foam is essential to hold everything in. The dust is a killer. The most expensive recessed valves are no better designed than the cheap stuff. Everything is tough and I'm a sparks , not a plumber. so it was all a steep learning curve and I struggled. The result is beautiful and your video recognition of how challenging it is has been therapy :) Might even do my C&G in plumbing now.
Great video, currently doing a full DIY renovation and have one of these, pretty much got it ready to fit but it's great to know I've gone the right way about it after watching your video!, Really liking the expanding foam idea!
Yeah nails it in!
Adam182 ii
good stuff
Very inspiring from fixing to the music, f***ing legend!!
Nice vid thanks James. Hold tight.
Love the videos cool. ...
Gotta do that job next week
I hate doing bathrooms some times
Done a few of these, but as I like this guy, I thought he might have a simpler way I didn't know about. Sadly, he doesn't. Except to say that it confirmed my impulse to build a stud wall. He does make me laugh though, and I loved the song!
So much more relaxing watching someone else doing it than doing it yourself. You missed the bit where you turn the water on and it leaks out of the connections.
Can you do a video on pressure testing with different scenarios?
These videos are great and all. But can we bring back Plumbing disasters !?!?
In development now!
Is that ending your sly way into music production 😂👌🎶
Hi James great vids. Any advice on plumbing in a shower valve where the hot comes in the top and the cold at the bottom and the mixed water comes out the bottom aswell. Thanks
Jimbo the link to Loctite product to use for the valve connections ... Yet another gr8 video soon you will get an Oscar
Jack Jill Bit late now but you can google Loctite 755 or 55.
@@steves1460 thanks, got there already
This video bring me an idea to make the water pipe come from the top for the shower and without chasing the original solid concrete wall. The additional light brick is easy for chasing. Yes baby.
Hey Jimbob, what about M&F fittings for locktight? I usually put PTFE on the threads on the mixer with a joining compound .. so no PTFE at all just locktight?
Great video again mate ..HOLD TIGHT ...
Love the song mate when are you going to do a veto review on your new bags and wear EAR PROTECTION
Thanks for sharing these videos. I got ripped off by a plumber who didn't show up with my items so I need to learn to install one myself. Wish me luck.
cheers James, I keep putting this job off but your video has really helped, im a pretty good but not brilliant diy'er but here goes!
That song tho 😁🤩
Great video, but stupid question is the hot on the left or right inlet? And the outlets go to the two head?
Hold tight x 2 yesssssss
James
Can you do a video on Macerators. I have one to fit soon. But never touched one before.
Thank you.
I wouldn't touch one either. Could get messy.
Lucky lucky man. My house is made of blue stone. I did this job and it took nearly 3 days.
How close together can the chases be? Does having an electrical cable chased near by affect installation or regs?
Hi, I need some advice on how to adjust this white ring on bottom one, the right way to adjust as my plumber messed it up
Nice one. Wouldn't advise compression on shower valve. You can buy angled end feed to 3/4" male iron. Hate concealed valved. Some of the bar mixers look just as nice.
Hi i am actually doing this in my house right now and was wondering would it be best to install PVC pipe 15mm or to use copper i am gonna do this with all my piping i have chased out the walls just waiting on best solution
James can you please do a video on how to locate a sewage smell within a room? HOLD TIGHT!!!
Is it better to go up to the shower head in 22mm given 2x15mm feeds are being mixed into one?
Mate you need to wear ear protection as well.. I've damaged my ear drum through loud noisy tools 😔 now I can't even watch a film at cinema as it just distorts real bad. I may even fail my flying medical for it 😢😢 just get plugs for 99p from screwfix if you don't want to wear the over head ones. But take it from me... always use them coz once it's damaged its damaged
Yeah man, if I'm honest I've probably got a tad bit of Tinnitus already....btw I'm 4 hrs in on my lessons in a 172!
plumberparts nice one! You decided to carry on with it then 😁 it's brilliant mate... If you can afford it. They don't have an 172 where I fly shame really. They only have 2 4 seaters so difficult to get one to take my girls out at same time. Where are you flying from?
Duxford....it's amazing in the circuit with a Spitfire and a B17!
plumberparts I'm well gel as the youngsters say nowadays 😂
What he said is so true. You guys are using power tools in small bathrooms and the noise reverberates. USE EAR DEFENDERS.
Bro'...... went to bed last night singing that damn song, woke up this morning,,, first words outta my gob, "Chase that wall".... then landed on the job this morning,, same shower valve,,, in a partition wall though... praise be....
Ha! Sorry dude!
ahhhhh great song,,,, we need more of that Bro'.... i need to be getting my Whearity Tiling vids up to date man.... keep up the great work Jimmy....
Cheers mate No worries!
Can you put a link to the correct Loctite?! Is it 55 or 577 you useV
Hi James recently my radiator has feel of my bedroom door and I don’t know who to phone to mount it back up if it is a plumber or a gas man could you help me with that please.
Hi. How do you ensure that the pipes do not build up condensation which then transmits to the brickwork?
I’ve stripped the tiles off the back of the shower wall with dad was coming through to the adjacent side.
I’m not entirely sure but I think it might be condensation on the pipes leading from the thermostatic valve to the showerhead. Which is particularly possible if you have very cold showers in the morning
I like these, in other people's houses 😂😂
Just skirting over the fact that you ended up pulling the top brick off altogether XD
shower body on an exterior wall without insulation is a no no. hammer drill and a 1/2 inch bit chase to floor. Shower body, stubs, and penny value made up before you fit it. ptfe 3 wraps works perfect. Setting body if you cant screw use wooden shims to anchor top and bottom of valve. Make sure you have valve right side up. Some shower bodys if it is install upside down it will not allow hot water to pass on cold inlet.
Really helpful video as always, I'm currently in the process of installing one of these things! Luckily I have a a stud wall. However I have a problem, got a 3/4 bsp threaded joint that will not stop leaking. It's a drip every hour but it's driving me crazy, I've tried ptfe, thread compound, a combination of both, nothing works. I've just ordered some hemp. Have you got any other suggestions? It's close to going out the window....
Ian Solway Did you ever sort your problem, as i’m looking at installing an iBox that comes with 3/4” outlets? Not sure hemp is now acceptable for potable.
Hi James - love the videos. When you fitted the compression joints to the valve, how did you make sure they ended up facing in the right direction? When I fully tighten the ones I have into the body the don't always point where I need them to, to connect with the pipework. Do you use extra PTFE to limit how far the screw into the body? Leave the fitting slightly loose and add sealant or some other secret plumber's trick?
Sorry - now watched the video all the way through - Loctite :)
Which veto is it you have the tech MCT ?
You got a good voice Bro! When's the album coming out? :-). Now what shall we name it.........?
i have a 2x4 studded wall to work with how do I fix evrything in a solid manner
Hi buddy, great video and easy to follow. I am installing a recessed shower and trying to work out how to connect the elbow for the flexible hose to the recessed outlet. The elbow has a male thread and appears to just screw into the secured female section. But if I do this how do I check for leaks? Is there a better way to fix the elbow? Thanks and hold tight.
I have just the same problem. No videos anywhere on how to install the shower outlet to a wall board !
@@Masq09 I thought the same, spent ages trying to figure it out, currently waiting on tiles and then got the dreaded bit where you screw rainfall and male elbow in, think loctite 55 looks like the best idea to use. Hope and pray?
Good question and i think your only option is to pressure test.
Please dont chase that wall :P could be a good music video :D love it !
Jim, loved the video mate but I personally would have appreciated some sort of flying kick to knock the wall down. Just think something slightly more acrobatic would have ended well. And it looked like the wall fell on your foot too. Hope you're ok bro.
Jimbo do some proper singing plumbing videos . They are good viewing for a Saturday morning big session 🎤
What's the hessian pipe insulation look like? Please help...
Are you alowed to mention the make and price of the wall chaser, I've seen some as low as £80 and some £150 - any recomendations are most welcome - great vid as allways.
NW that one looks like a titan to me - a Screwfix brand of power tool
Would you use plastic instead of copper
The music the music musick ... jimbo don't give up that day job, not yet
Visiting Chernobyl 😅u came bk on time bud.
Does anybody know if render is bad for a brass mixer body?
Alright pal .....if just had a combi boiler fited .....went from gravaty fed shower to power .........but now when I turn my shower on .......it blew a pipe and the shower stopped .....we have had that pipe fixed ......turn shower back on and now 20/30 seconds later the shower stops again .....no leaks from what I can tell so what's stopping it
What the 2 blade chase tool you use please
ian mackay Late in the day, but it is a wall chaser.
hi there - my plumber fitted this at an angle (!) - therefore if/when water runs down the wall it goes onto the controls themselves (the back panel has silicon behind it so that's not a problem) and then trickles backwards into the cavity behind the tiles. I am worried it will eventually damage the copper pipes. Any quick fixes for this? Everything has been tiled so it is a case of doing something to the controls themselves to stop water trickling into where the crack that needs to move to let them turn. Welcome any advice - thank you!
Annabella Forbes Schoolboy error to fit crooked! Really needs re-aligning. If the plate is siliconed, how is water getting inside? Copper damage is not your problem, but damage to everything else in your cavity and downstairs!? Defo needs sorting and not left as is.
😊👍
Originally the "breeze" bit of block was a synonym for ash and "proper" breeze block is made from the ash from coal fired power stations and gas works. Truly horrible to stuff to work with, and my best wishes to anybody who has to channel that stuff out as it's amazing hard and brittle and full of coarse inclusions.
That stuff is thermalite block and, in comparison, is like carving through butter.
nb. whilst those concealed valves are nice, I'd never, ever want one in a house of mine as there's too much embedded in the wall. They might not be as neat, but bar mixers for me with no compression joints stuck in the wall.
You’re a great tradesmen and fun to watch, but remember people that if you do this on a party wall there’s something called “the party wall act” and if you’re found breaching the act the homeowner and the tradesmen are liable for legal costs and repair’s to the adjoining house owner!
Choose a valve with shallow depth, easy
It’s that a Napoli shirt?
I'm about to do this on an 18th century stone wall 😬
If the wall ends up rough/irregular you can simply stick a piece of cement board inside to create a flat surface. Do not use wood or plasterboard.
So thats how to put one in - what if you have one of these recessed concealed shower valves & it no longer works_- How do I take it out? Cut the pipes, so I can start again with something more straightforward? serious suggestions please
Sian Hallewell Take a look at iBox; Crosswater do something similar!
Building regs out the window
Which building regs are you referring to, out of interest?
Did I miss when you proposed how to check for leaks?
Oops...I hadn’t got to 18:00 yet
Apologies 🙏
Hate fittings these stupid showers man i normally just build a wood frame stud wall now makes the job ten times easier and better for future works
Video starts at 3:27