Best Fountain Pens for Drawing: The 3 Types for Beginners

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  • @AllanJayQuesada
    @AllanJayQuesada 3 года назад +126

    You were the one who introduced me fountain pens as drawing materials. So i started collecting in September 2020.. now i have 30.😂

    • @teohyc
      @teohyc  3 года назад +29

      Oh wow. Maybe you have more fountain pens than me now. lol

    • @AllanJayQuesada
      @AllanJayQuesada 3 года назад +12

      @@teohyc haha. As of last counting, i have 32. Though, you gave away some of your fountain pens, I think, you still have more. ☺️

    • @deanandreoli1975
      @deanandreoli1975 3 года назад +9

      Teoh has done the same thing for me. I have purchased a few different drawing tools after watching some of his fantastic reviews. When I want the real low down on a pen, I come to Teoh's channel.

    • @mysteradio
      @mysteradio 3 года назад +2

      Teoh also introduced me to fountain pen sketching!

    • @mysteradio
      @mysteradio 3 года назад

      @@deanandreoli1975 hey! i see you on Chrisrap52's videos too! Cheers!

  • @happybee9194
    @happybee9194 3 года назад +9

    You have no idea how helpful this video is. Thank you so much for the in-depth video about these different kinds of pen tips!

  • @kristelwyman
    @kristelwyman 3 года назад +22

    Once again, you are truly the most helpful content creator I'm aware of on RUclips. I love your channel. Thank you!

    • @cheerp7313
      @cheerp7313 3 года назад +2

      I agree. He is very generous and humble. His contents are simple and practical. And also not loud.

  • @cammiluna
    @cammiluna 2 года назад +9

    I always admired how the pens you choose in your drawing videos glide so smoothly across watercolor paper and it somehow took me forever to realize you still use your Pelikan M200 in recent videos that you've kept around since your fountain pen discussion videos several years ago. I went and ordered one for myself with Rohrer and Klingner SketchInk and I love drawing with it so much! I wanna try other pen nib types soon!

  • @equesdeventusoccasus
    @equesdeventusoccasus 3 года назад +10

    I have found that having a variety of pens & nibs to be advantageous to an artist who wants to use fountain pens. I keep multiple pens with different nibs filled with the ink I most often use, so I can swap pens for different effects.
    I prefer the fude to the flex nib, because you can produce consistent line weight variance with enough practice with your pens. Also it is great for shading larger areas.

  • @diannella
    @diannella 3 месяца назад +1

    Great video! I received a "pelikan m 200 ef demonstrator 2013" as a gift about 10 years ago, it looks like the one you show at the beginning of the video. I've only used it for writing letters. I recently discovered that you can use them for drawing and then painting with watercolors if you have the right ink, that's how I got here. You explain everything very clearly and interestingly with good shots. Thanks!

  • @Donna_G
    @Donna_G 3 года назад +8

    I don't remember what my first fountain pen was; because, I had it way back when I was in elementary school, maybe third of fourth grade. I remember our desks were made out of wood and the desk top had a space where the ink bottle could fit. My pen was black and I could fill it by using a lever that was on the barrel. It was easy to over-fill the pen. I remember the ink blobs on my papers.
    When I got back into fountain pens in 2017, my first one was a Platinum Preppy. Then I got a Pilot Metropolitan. Both pens work good for drawing and that's what I used until I got my first TWSBI Eco. I have a couple of more expensive pens; but, the Eco is still the best. However, I did recently get a Noodler's Boston Safety Pen since it can be used with India ink. It has a #2 flex nib; but, the flex doesn't seem to be much when I compare it with the flex on the nibs of my dip pens.

    • @BarbrajoanOriginals
      @BarbrajoanOriginals 3 года назад

      Donna, I had the same experience as you, the desk, inkwell, and the lever on the pen. I have always preferred ink pens to write with.

    • @jls3220
      @jls3220 3 года назад

      You’re pretty old. Like me but much older.

    • @bramleymoore64
      @bramleymoore64 3 года назад

      Jorge L. Sanchez you are very rude to say that to a lady you don't even know, even though you look a similar age anyway. 😅

    • @jls3220
      @jls3220 3 года назад +2

      @@bramleymoore64 Yes we are both old. That’s all. No rudeness!

  • @marcb6444
    @marcb6444 3 года назад +3

    I tried to replicate your drawing style using a fountain pen. Filled my Pelikan M400 with r&k sketch ink but had difficulty in cleaning it after week's use. So, I settled with an Ahab Noodler's for my pen and ink sketch and it's much cheaper. Will try to use the Sailor fude nib soon. Thanks for this informative video, Teoh.

  • @la_papetrie
    @la_papetrie Год назад +2

    100 % the best video for artist wanting to use fountain pens .and I congratulate for your absolutely amazing reviews .wow 👌

  • @theinktician
    @theinktician 11 месяцев назад +1

    I prefer dipping pens, but I'll try fountain pens again someday

  • @ladyflimflam
    @ladyflimflam 3 года назад +7

    For those who’ve not bought their first fountain pen, you need to know the Lamy Safari featured here is a love it or hate it pen. It has a tripod grip that many people hate and is actually pretty expensive for an entry level pen. For good, cheap pens look to the Platinum Preppy, among others. You will need to buy a converter for the Preppy, but you can buy three Preppys with three different nib sizes and converters for all three for the same price as the Lamy Safari.

    • @MybeautifulandamazingPrincess
      @MybeautifulandamazingPrincess 2 года назад +2

      You're hella broke if you think Lamy Safari is expensive

    • @kohimame
      @kohimame 2 года назад +1

      @@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess I think most people wouldn't spend more than $10 on a pen.
      But I think it's nice that the fountain pen community has such a low level for entry, so that everyone can enjoy it!

  • @ScarletRed.
    @ScarletRed. Год назад +1

    I only have a couple pens an aluminum Muji fine nib, Platinum extra fine nib and Waterman Allure I will check out your list! I am thinking of TWSBI Eco as my next purchase but am hesitating because of the cracking issues I have heard about. Thanks for the video!

  • @monica-NJ-123
    @monica-NJ-123 3 года назад +2

    Always looking at fountain pens to try out , I haven’t bought one but this was helpful Thank you 😊

  • @avelinoamado4568
    @avelinoamado4568 3 года назад +1

    Thank you for a very detailed, yet easy to follow description of some of the basic pens!

  • @knitntea1672
    @knitntea1672 2 года назад +1

    What a great video. Thank you so much for sharing this valuable information.

  • @deanandreoli1975
    @deanandreoli1975 3 года назад

    i love the delicate fine lines i get from the pilot penmanship (ef) and for line variation, that Duke Confucious with the fude nib... I'm addicted to that pen.

  • @dieulinhngo4413
    @dieulinhngo4413 7 месяцев назад

    Thank you so much for the quality of information you gave

  • @BarbrajoanOriginals
    @BarbrajoanOriginals 3 года назад +4

    This video came at a good time for me. I was looking at my small collection of pens. There’s a couple of Lamy Safaris, one is white the other clear. I have several Pilots, a good Sailor which I’ve been disappointed in and it cost me more than all the others. I do like using ink pens both for drawing, and writing. Thanks Teoh, for all you do.
    Tallahassee Florida

  • @elizabethpopiel7187
    @elizabethpopiel7187 3 года назад +1

    This is awesome (....as I JUST did my own "self study" of which pen [and ink] to use). I see Teo has an INK choice posting which I will look at right after I post my response. I was so happy to see that many of Teo's words here concur with my own personal finding. For what it is worth, I have settled on the following as my FAVORITE fountain pens to sketch with: LAMY Safari with M point, My PILOT Namiki "vanishing point", and my PILOT Falcon "SF" nib. The waterproof inks I use are mostly: Noodler HEART OF DARKNESS and EEL black, MARS 745 Drawing Ink AND...Higgins Black Magic. All fared well on Stillman and Birns DELTA series and also my MOLESKINE "ARTIST SKETCHBOOK" [111LB]. Both are Ivory paper. As Teo say's your pen choice is subjective. I tried SOOOO many before settling on these above THANKS TEO!! See you in the "choosing Drawing inks" posting!

  • @janscott9151
    @janscott9151 3 года назад +1

    Costing me money again, as I sent for the fude here as the Sailor has such a thick line. Also a cheap flex. But it’s a very useful video and I do like to draw with fountain pens. Just increasing my arsenal a little. Thanks very much.

  • @gabrielleannacormierart
    @gabrielleannacormierart 2 года назад

    Thank you for this advice! You made it simple and easy to understand where to start :)

  • @LeesChannel
    @LeesChannel 3 года назад +28

    You should take out your $500+ Sailor Limited and say "this is the best fountain pen for beginners."

  • @johnjoeparrot
    @johnjoeparrot Год назад +1

    Your videos are gold

  • @zl1405
    @zl1405 2 года назад

    I draw with the platinum carbon desk pen, pilot desk pen, sailor desk pen custom heritage 91, sailor pro gear slim and hopefully soon a 3776 century. I started with the platinum carbon desk pen: do it. It's perfect for beginners

  • @scribbleshiann
    @scribbleshiann 3 года назад

    really appreciate your videos always very informative and easy to understand.

  • @hannastocksick7395
    @hannastocksick7395 2 года назад +1

    Can you recommend a flexible nib fountain pen that’s more affordable?

  • @GenWivern2
    @GenWivern2 3 года назад +1

    Nice video, thanks Teoh. :-) Just a quick observation that the Pilot Penmanship really is a surprisingly good all-purpose fine pen, especially given the modest price. As mentioned below, the Platinum Carbon pen is another.

  • @Josh-oi5nr
    @Josh-oi5nr 3 года назад +1

    Hi!
    Do you have recommendations for a good cheap ink for fountainpens

  • @lindathaxton1994
    @lindathaxton1994 2 года назад +2

    So many choices 🤪

  • @tedparker858
    @tedparker858 3 года назад

    Nice!! Mine finally came from China the other day. Haven't got to use it yet.

  • @keshav_p
    @keshav_p 2 года назад

    Thanks a lot! you are very inspiring!

  • @j.eartdrawing3606
    @j.eartdrawing3606 3 года назад +1

    Amazing drawing 😍 ❤ ♥ 💙 Thank you for sharing ❤ 🙏 😊 Have a great day

  • @thewanderess
    @thewanderess 3 года назад

    Teoh! Your fountain pen collection is my dream! 😂

  • @WMARUoriginal
    @WMARUoriginal 3 года назад +1

    Very helpful! Thank you

  • @arteworld
    @arteworld 3 года назад

    That is so informative.... Thank you so much

  • @Xyrium
    @Xyrium 3 года назад

    Well done sir. Thank you.

  • @bjornlarsson1478
    @bjornlarsson1478 Год назад

    Hi Teoh! Thanks for all your inspiring videos. When you have waterproof ink in your fountain pen, do you empty the pen and clean it after every drawing session or do you clean it when it runs out of ink? How do you clean it when using waterproof ink? Thanks! Best, Björn

    • @teohyc
      @teohyc  Год назад

      I only clean the pen when I know I will not be using it for weeks

    • @bjornlarsson1478
      @bjornlarsson1478 Год назад

      @@teohyc Do you clean with just water or do you add something extra when it's waterproof ink?

    • @teohontech7141
      @teohontech7141 Год назад

      @@bjornlarsson1478I just clean with water. For more thorough cleaning I use fountain pen cleaning liquid. If you need even more thorough cleaning, there are ultrasonic cleaners

  • @PasCorrect
    @PasCorrect 2 года назад

    I'm so intimidated by fountain pens, but the results are so pretty...

  • @ЧешуйчатаяЯщерица
    @ЧешуйчатаяЯщерица 3 года назад

    Hey, do you know ANY nib, that is neither fude nor stub (perfectly if flex) that can write thick upstrokes and thin downstrokes?

  • @eileengoldenberg270
    @eileengoldenberg270 3 года назад +3

    The sailor Fude de manned are the best pens.. I have had no problems with them, I have 4! And they are $12 each..

  • @maggiefreeman6513
    @maggiefreeman6513 Год назад

    Very useful. Thanks.

  • @estoton0036
    @estoton0036 3 года назад +2

    I was always looking for a pen to sketch with. I like using the dip pens for making final lines on top of pencil sketches and they do let me use beautiful matte black inks like deleter (4) ink but for sketching they are not good at all. I tried out a 02 platinum preppy and since i liked it i decided to go for the century 3776 in Extra fine. Hopefully this completes my long search for the best ink pen for sketching ive tried so many diff pens before and they all had their own issues like tips wearing out before using all the ink etc.

    • @equesdeventusoccasus
      @equesdeventusoccasus 3 года назад +1

      The Century 3776 has a super fine nib as well as the extra fine. It is the finest line I have found, however, it has a slow flow, so you will probably find a juicy ink to work best.

  • @locoyo386
    @locoyo386 2 месяца назад

    I have a question for you. How would I know if the nib on my pen can be purchased separately?

    • @teohyc
      @teohyc  2 месяца назад

      You have to search online forums. Not all pen nibs can be removed. And if they can be removed, there may not be replacements.

    • @locoyo386
      @locoyo386 2 месяца назад

      @teohyc I know it can be removed and from what I can see. The nib and pen are from different manufacturers, but I can not seem to find the nib.

  • @kimhenderson9186
    @kimhenderson9186 3 года назад

    I have just in the past few months started experimenting with fountain pens for drawing. They are a blast but so far I have only purchased pens that are under $20. I have one pen that the ink keeps leaking out the end into the cap. Do you think this could be that the converter doesn't fit snugly?

    • @teohyc
      @teohyc  3 года назад

      The ink convertor could be loose. When this happens, it usually means there's a gap/air hole somewhere.

    • @kimhenderson9186
      @kimhenderson9186 3 года назад

      @@teohyc I thought that was most likely the problem. Common sense told me this was the issue. Thank you for confirming and your quick response.

  • @georgerabbitearl
    @georgerabbitearl 2 года назад

    Hi. Thanks for the video :-) The link in the video description seems not to be reachable. Do you have an updated link? Which pen can you recommend if I want to have a line width depending on the pressure (from thin to thick) ?

    • @teohyc
      @teohyc  2 года назад +1

      The link should still be working. For pens that react to pressure, look for flex nib pens

    • @georgerabbitearl
      @georgerabbitearl 2 года назад

      @@teohyc Thanks :-)

    • @georgerabbitearl
      @georgerabbitearl 2 года назад

      @@teohyc Thanks.The link needs 30 secionds to load...

  • @12a1-varunvignesh.d
    @12a1-varunvignesh.d 3 года назад

    Hi teoh. Which one do you prefer btw the duke 209 and duke 551 for urban sketching for a lefty beginner? Where to buy them which would ship to india

  • @andrecardon2141
    @andrecardon2141 2 года назад

    Interesting. Thanks

  • @Jay-ex2ws
    @Jay-ex2ws 2 года назад

    Thanks for your video :) Can you recommend a fountain pen with line variations for sketch? I searched M200, 742 fa, falcon sf. I feel FA and SF are bold, and I'm not sure the nib quality of M200. Thanks!

    • @teohyc
      @teohyc  2 года назад

      For line variation, it's better to get a Falcon nib or a Fude nib. Falcon lines vary from pressure, Fude lines vary from hand position.
      For Pelikan fountain pens, just assume they are stiff nibs.

    • @Jay-ex2ws
      @Jay-ex2ws 2 года назад

      Thanks for your advice! I've already had a Fude nib. Individually, between custom 742 FA and Elabo SF, which one do you prefer? All types of pens you used make interesting drawing. That's reason why I have difficulties of choosing the pen :-)

    • @teohontech7141
      @teohontech7141 2 года назад

      @@Jay-ex2ws I'm not really into flex nib actually. If it's an expensive pen, I recommend you try drawing with cheaper G-nib and pen holder first, or cheaper flex nib pens, to get a feel of drawing with flex nib before you invest too much money.

  • @edzejandehaan9265
    @edzejandehaan9265 3 года назад

    I would really like to try out a pen with a fude nib. Haven't drawn much with fountain pens, because I prefer waterfast pigment ink like india ink. But I understand there are waterfast ink for fountainpens too.
    Btw I own a Lamy safari with converter, mostly used for writing.

    • @Cortesevasive
      @Cortesevasive 3 года назад +5

      de atramentis artist inks
      de atramentis dokument inks
      rohrer klingner dokument inks
      Rohrer klingner sketch inks
      platinum carbon black
      sailor seiboku/souboku, both blue, avoid kiwaguro its like 95percent waterresistant.
      inks are all pigment and wont move a bit, if you have the interest you could buy (cyan magenta and yellow and mix your own colour )
      Try sailor fude nib 40degree (black one, the starting size at normal angle is medium nib,while 55degree starts at double broad) with rohrer klingner dokument black. Havent tried chinese versions but i trust sailor.

    • @skeletonpete
      @skeletonpete 3 года назад +1

      I’ve had several years of excellent results with Platinum Carbon Black ink in my TWSBI Diamond 580 Demonstrator.

    • @March22012
      @March22012 3 года назад +1

      I really like the Sailor fude de mannen. It’s cheap and not fussy about inks. The fude nib gives you three line widths easily. I take it with me when I go sketching.

    • @teohyc
      @teohyc  3 года назад +1

      Here's a list of waterproof inks that are safe for fountain pen. www.parkablogs.com/content/waterproof-fountain-pen-inks-drawing

    • @edzejandehaan9265
      @edzejandehaan9265 3 года назад

      Thanks Teoh, and everybody else for your replies, much appreciated! I will have a look at your suggestions.

  • @larryglatt2548
    @larryglatt2548 2 года назад

    Is it true that nib sizes (F, EF, M) are different between manufacturers, I.E. one mfr's Ef is not the same as anothers EF?

    • @teohyc
      @teohyc  2 года назад +1

      There may be slight variance but the difference is easy to tell between EF, F and M

  • @IshikaShanai
    @IshikaShanai 3 года назад +5

    The best fountain pen for drawing are the ones I already own LOL. My wallet thinks so at least. :P

  • @ertankocakoc3704
    @ertankocakoc3704 3 года назад

    English:
    I have been using "Pentel Smash" for a long time and I want to get a better and better quality pen that is very old. Which pen do you think should I buy? I like your videos and I wish you continued success.
    Türkçe:
    Uzun zamandır "Pentel Smash" kullanıyorum ve çok eskidi daha güzel ve kaliteli bir kalem edinmek istiyorum. Sizce hangi kalemi almalıyım? Videolarınızı beğenerek takip ediyorum başarılarınızın devamını dilerim.

    • @teohyc
      @teohyc  3 года назад

      Pentel Smash is a mechanical pencil? You can just get Pilot technical pencils, they are good

    • @ertankocakoc3704
      @ertankocakoc3704 3 года назад

      @@teohyc English: Yes versatil pen, thank you for your comment.
      Türkçe: Evet versatil kalem, yorumunuz için teşekkür ederim.

  • @PaulaBean
    @PaulaBean 3 года назад

    I'm currently experimenting with diluting pigmented inks with alcohol (99% ethanol) to make them flow better on rough paper like Arches 300g cold pressed 100% cotton. I'm getting good results with 50% Rotring Ink + 50% alcohol in technical pens. Flows great, dries quickly, very black, and absolutely waterproof. Next up is to test this ink mix in a fountain pen.

    • @Cortesevasive
      @Cortesevasive 3 года назад +3

      alcohol can literally melt pmma resin(sailor)

    • @PaulaBean
      @PaulaBean 3 года назад

      @@Cortesevasive Aren't you confusing it with acetone?

    • @Cortesevasive
      @Cortesevasive 3 года назад +2

      @@PaulaBean my sailor pro gear was exposed to hand sanitizer and it softened whitened and cracked, Google it up pmma plastic is not alcohol resistant,

    • @PaulaBean
      @PaulaBean 3 года назад

      @@Cortesevasive Thanks for the tip, I'll keep an eye on it. The pens in which I use my ink mixture (for two weeks now) don't exhibit any detoriation. Yet ;-)

    • @riverbeee9643
      @riverbeee9643 3 года назад +2

      Polycarbonate (like TWSBI pen bodies) is also damaged with alcohol. I've heard of feeds damaged by alcoholy ink.
      Surfactant makes an ink flow better. Add a tiny tiny drop of liquid soap to some ink to test it out. There is also "White Lightning" available from Vanness.

  • @srabastibasu2
    @srabastibasu2 3 года назад

    Can you pls recommend a pen for sketching on 100% cotton 300gsm cold press paper? Im badly trying to zeroed down to one! Pls help! 🙏

    • @teohyc
      @teohyc  3 года назад +1

      You can just get any fountain pen with Fine nib. Lamy, TWsbi are good

    • @srabastibasu2
      @srabastibasu2 3 года назад

      inspired by you i would want to invest in a pelikan m200. should a get a f or ef?

  • @janetshaffer423
    @janetshaffer423 3 года назад

    What fountain pen is best for a left-handed artist?

    • @teohyc
      @teohyc  3 года назад

      Not sure about that. Maybe it’s more about the ink used? Rotring ink dries fast

    • @suzannelafontaine7695
      @suzannelafontaine7695 3 года назад

      Any ink that dries quickly. Otherwise, it is more about the pen then the ink.

    • @nk7221
      @nk7221 3 года назад

      Thinner nibs put down less ink and therefore it dries faster, so I recommend EF/F Japanese nibs. Thicker inks (with less water) also dries faster. I'm a leftie, and I use a Platinum Desk pen with Carbon Ink, as well as a Platinum Preppy with Pelican fount india ink with no issues !

  • @Artlife0831
    @Artlife0831 3 года назад

    What sketchbook are you using?

    • @teohyc
      @teohyc  3 года назад

      That is Bristol drawing paper

  • @AlessandroZir
    @AlessandroZir 2 года назад

    thanks!!

  • @flyingformation1878
    @flyingformation1878 3 года назад

    Can I use a faber castell converter in a Lamy Safary? Tnx

    • @teohyc
      @teohyc  3 года назад

      No. Lamy pens have this grooves/cutting to fit their own Lamy Safari convertors.

  • @Testudio
    @Testudio 3 года назад

    it is hard to choose😥

  • @yaddhillon200
    @yaddhillon200 Год назад

  • @Thestripper1
    @Thestripper1 2 года назад +1

    0:00 Hello Everyone, This is YOUR daily Dose of Internet.. I was sure he was going to say it!

  • @MAJESTY10101
    @MAJESTY10101 3 года назад

    Sir can i put flex nib instead of fine nib in a fountain pen?

    • @teohyc
      @teohyc  3 года назад +1

      Yes but you have to get the right nib size to fit into the grip section

    • @MAJESTY10101
      @MAJESTY10101 3 года назад

      @@teohyc okk thanks❤️

  • @2846soon
    @2846soon 3 года назад +2

    nice one👍🏻

  • @jonmahashintina
    @jonmahashintina 3 года назад

    cant find the bluedew flex one. quick google suggested jihao can be modded with g-pen, but requires bending. those things arent cheap right now, so that seems a little absurd to me. ill stick to dipping.

    • @March22012
      @March22012 3 года назад

      It’s bluedewpens.com. I’ve ordered one myself.

    • @teohyc
      @teohyc  3 года назад

      It's here www.bluedewpens.com/

    • @jonmahashintina
      @jonmahashintina 3 года назад

      @@teohyc it says theyre sold out.

  • @nickz7771
    @nickz7771 3 года назад +2

    仁者爱人

  • @ericastier1646
    @ericastier1646 Год назад

    Why not talking of the European origin of fountain pens and show the historical major European brands such as Waterman or Pelican ? Chinese are only recent years newcomers to this industry. You should respect the origins.

  • @MybeautifulandamazingPrincess
    @MybeautifulandamazingPrincess 3 года назад +1

    You don't have to use only one pen to make a drawing, it's like with mechanical pencil, I like 0.3 for details and precision lines and small touches, and I use a lead holder for shadow and depth