When Alan Wake dropped in 2010, I was 15. My parents had moved to Florida. I was on my own from there on out, I was working under the table while living with friends of my family, and bought the first one and played it. The ending had always stuck with me, I’m 29 now, in the 13 year gap, myself, like many others went through their trials in life, I figured out what I wanted to do, and wanted to be. I just wanted to be a working man, and be a father. My son was born January 23rd 2023, and then I had gotten this game October of the same year. I work full time, have my own place, and am being the best father I can be to my son. I always found it a funny coincidence that I had reached where I wanted to be in life the same time Alan Wake 2 dropped, makes me feel a special connection to the series. We all have our Departures, we all have our Initiations, and we all have our Returns. We’re truly all on our own Hero’s Journey.
Well that was really inspirational. I remember the last time I played AW1 and now after all these years just played AW2 after I got myself a gaming laptop. I have to agree this game is even better than the first. Congrats for your family and realizations and I wish you a happy life from Bucharest :).
Alan's final lines refer to Joseph Campell "Hero's Journey", where in Return the Hero comes back after the adventure "with wisdom or spiritual power over both worlds", but here he says many worlds
god i love the symbolism here. the bullet hole, representing his sacrifice that represents him embracing collaboration and connection instead of sole authorship and isolation, forms a third eye, a symbol of enlightenment, which lines up perfectly with this part of the Hero’s Journey. can’t wait for the DLC/Control 2/Alan Wake 3/whatever else remedy and sam lake put their insane genius minds to doing
The fact that you need to play the game again to get this ending is actually clever, because you need to go through it again, through the loop once more.
Reminds me of Bioshock Infinite and Elizabeth´s power to travel across time and space, would be kinda epic to see something like that in Alan Wake 3, this time no trapped but co-working with FBC to stop some monsters again
@@vladole4176 I think it’s very likely that Alan will eventually travel to other realities/dimensions but i doubt it’s gonna be in close coordination with the FBC. Like Sam Lake said: Alan has sort of become the master of the supernatural, but 13 years in The Dark Place have made him a little loopy, and his powers, though raw, lack any sort of restraint. He’s very talented but not until the very end of the game does he even realise what his visions really are. The FBC value control (see what i did there?) and caution above all else, so they wouldn’t bring Alan in unless they have absolutely no other choice. As for Alan Wake 3: My guess is that Mr. Door is becoming some sort of Nemesis towards Alan, and seeing as he can roam the realities freely, Alan is gonna have to find a way to do the same. Probably through Saga.
It definitely brought a tear to my eye. After 13 years of dreaming and wishing to see some conclusion to Alan's story finally happened. I gotta thank Remedy that they never gave up on finishing this story....
@@Exel3nce it is the real ending though the final draft was supposed to show us what happened after Allen got shot and to show us if Logan was alive and to free Alan from the spiral he in
Really loved Alice in this game. I thought her acting on those videos were fantastic, and some of the best parts of the game for me. Really enjoyed seeing her having a much greater purpose in bringing some level of resolution to the spiral.
@@mr.heisenberg0122They don't have time to learn from such small fish. Didn't you know? They have to release their newest masterpiece in 6 months, bLoCkBuStEr series shitfart45 with a budget of 600 morbillion.
This was the best ending they could give us. You finally get confirmation that Logan is alive and it looks like Alan is leaving. Still some unanswered questions, but considering we don’t know when we’ll get a third game it’s perfect.
I think the cliffhanger served the story better, to be honest. It’s as Alan says: horror stories need the characters to pay a price. It makes no sense for the story to abandon its tone and suddenly be sunshine and rainbows.
@@primevaltimesplenty of horror stories have happy endings or at least endings where the protagonists succeed. There is not a hint of sunshine and nary a rainbow to be seen; horror doesn’t mean “at the end, everyone is either dead or writhing in abject misery due to having flaws” it just means spooky shit happens. Don’t listen to Alan’s ideas about writing. He’s usually wrong, or approaching the ideas in a wrong headed way. There’s a reason his biggest fan is Rose fucking Marigold and it’s not because he writes highbrow genius Great American Novels; he’s a hacky, belligerent alcoholic who needed thirteen years and armies of helpers to fart out a book that wasn’t an airport paperback crime thriller about a pissed off detective scowling his way through murder mysteries. He was literally submerged in the fabled Creative Juices and managed to maintain his writers block for over a decade, spending all his energies on imagining himself being harangued by fans and praised on talk shows. Until this precise moment he’s been a shambling, wretched thing with a bloated, swollen ego weighing him down like Quasimodo’s hunch, and his obsession with “tHe StOrY hAs To Be DaRk AnD eDgY” has kept him stuck in place and harmed his loved ones. This ending was well and truly fought for and earned. Get over whatever anxieties and neuroses about “happy endings” being for babies you have left over from your middle school english classes and evaluate endings in relation to the stories being told, you will enjoy things more
@@clarenceoveur9497He has risen above that now. Strictly adhering to the horror genre is one of the obstacles he put in his own way unnecessarily. Like Mr. Door and Sam Lake himself said. A lot of Alans "rules" aren't actually true, and were just a reflection of his own self-imposed limitations.
Just finished the ending and i love how we're pretty much directly where we were from the beginning, with alice in the dark place. It fits the 'its not a loop, its a spiral' so well, because we might be where we were 13 years back but were on different ground, different circumstances that will allow for some interesting things later down the line.
I think the ending is intentionally delayed. As for me, I just finished the game today and immediately came looking for this ending. When you finish the game for the first time, the credits role and Alan awakes and says “it’s not a loop, it’s a spiral”. I think the intention was to have the final draft playable right when you finish. Alan processes the whole thing as the final scene is playing. “We’ve met here before”. The fact that it’s a spiral, they wrote the ending that would finish it all and it had to be played out one last time to take effect. Hence, the Final Draft.
I was a drunk and a drug addict for years.. I've been clean for a while now.. This game, in part, seems an allegory for fighting addiction.. The revelation at the end, that it is not a loop, it is in fact a spiral, is a revelation that many cured addicts can attest to.. Along with the strange, dark and ominous journey that Alan has gone through, this too is very much juxtaposed with fighting demons within.. A more poetic display of this war, I have not seen in this medium.. Bravo...
Differently hits different when you tie it to mental illness/addictions allegory. When I think about that I even prefer the original ending more. The “it’s a spiral” totally felt very hopeful giving us clarity that we can make it out of whatever darkness that hold us
Good to hear that you overcame addiction and are well. I also think that the Dark Place is an allegory that refers to our within demons. I was looking for people's interpretation of the Dark Place and it is interesting to see how it varies base on people's own experiences. I related the Dark Place to depression, something that I was diagnosed some years ago.
At least now Alan have a will to write AND ideas of how to proceed: 1) Write meeting with mr. Door and find a way to get Alice and Himself out. 2) Write Jesse visiting lake in Control 2 to get Alice,Alan and lake power out to real world 3) Ahti always around, Darling also, Asgard bros.
@@Kairax I don't know if we'll ever get Alan Wake 3 but now that AW and Control are directly connected I am very much looking forward to Control 2. I know Control can't focus too much on Wake's story, but I hope they bring some closure to certain aspects because there is still a lot of unanswered questions.
I couldn’t help but smile finally hearing Logan answer. But I can’t help but feel this just isn’t even close to being over. Scratch might be gone but that was just The Dark Presence creating something to mess with Alan. That resonance is still out there creating noise. It’s not just as simple as getting rid of the stage one boss when the mastermind is still out there. The Dark Place still exists and there’s no way it’s completely shut off. We have seen what happens when it combines with The Hiss with Heartmans story…it’s still connected to at least The Oceanview motel in many thresholds if not by other means like Cauldron Lake or minor Overlaps we used in AW2 or worst the projector in Control with a slide that may just yet be discovered. We have won the battle and this is a great calm but the war isn’t over and the true storm hasn’t even started. That scares me. What happens when The Hiss gets out of The Oldest House, spreads like wildfire with The Darkness still being able to cross realities? What if Northmore breaks out or worse gets infected by The Hiss and The Dark Presence?! Some writer struggling to control his own stories, Jessie and Polaris are not equipped to fight such things. What is Alex Casey going to detective his way into slow mode shooting at it while the FBC is trying to do damage control not even knowing what Mr. Door is even trying to do outside of all this mess? Dr. Darling…we need you back buddy. You are one of our only hopes. The trilogy has been finished, however that was only the first few chapters of this Space Oddity Odyssey.
@@OSHhl8479it seems Alice has overcame the dark place, in a way. She figured it out so much faster than Alan and went even further. Wherever she is, looks like she isn’t endangered
Thank you for posting this, I just finished my playthrough a couple of days ago, and i was so heavily emotionally invested in the game that the ending left me feelings emotionally exhausted...and when I went to play the Final Draft I realized the game just repeats itself and I just wasn't ready to replay it just yet...but I had to know what happened to Logan, to Alice, to Alan...goodness. I might replay it soon on Final Draft, especially now that I know the Final Draft ending is so much more fulfilling and satisfying than the original! What an intense but amazing game!
Yea, I agree ,but its still a great ending. Alice helping him ascend out of the spiral. He says he is the master of many worlds so im assuming that will help him get Alice out of the dark place.
The detail in these games is absolutely insane. All of the connections to every other game, even one that is technically not in universe, but definitely connected. When I realized Tim Breaker meant "Time Breaker" I lost it. Don't know how I didn't realize that before. Most of all I just love how everyone who is a part of this project seems to genuinely love it. They seem so proud of what they have done and they should be. It's brilliant and ridiculous and all of the things I love. I grew up on Evil Dead and every other Bruce Campbell comedy horror. These games balance the comedy and horror so well. I'll admit, Control is still my favorite game in the series. It's the most fun because you just get to fling giant boulders at people possessed and mutated by an inter dimensional resonance, I just wish they added a NG+. Have played that game up and down, there is always something new to find, though, so I keep replaying. Literally cannot think of a single playthrough I didn't find some new file connected to Alan Wake, or find a new hidden room. It's a great game and awesome connections to Alan Wake that shed a lot of light on things, but also still leaves new questions. It's fantastic. This game is a very close second, it was everything I was hoping for. 13 years we waited. I am so excited for the new DLC coming out in October. This series deserves all of the awards. I really hope they continue with Control 2 and maybe just have it completing the Alan Wake story. Possibly having Jesse help Alan somehow. Either way, I will consume any content they put out. Even if they gave us a little crumb sized game like Alan Wake's American Nightmare to keep us satisfied. Lol
You know what is neat here... the fact that you get NEW stuff from NEW game + Another loop, or better yet after another trip down the spiral. A bit of meta thrown in. Love the detail :D
not gonna lie, that ending with the phone ringing was a 10/10, but still glad "almost" everything is over now, i cannot wait for the sequel, this was easily one of my fav games of the past year
This gives me thoughts about how the Max Payne 1 and 2 Remake will be done. I’m guessing Sam Lake is not just remaking Max Payne, but bringing Max to the Remedy Universe. Alan is rewriting Mona Sax in 2, in that she doesn’t die.
"The master of many worlds". I have a feeling he meant all Remedy's games's worlds by that cuz we know they're connected. But...what about Alice? Did she stuck in the Dark Place...AGAIN? Or did she die? I hope they give answers in the DLCs.
Bro if Alan died there is he woke up in dark place ? I mean Alan was in real world and saga shoot him right and if Alan really died ,can he woke up in dark place ?@@ozfroggirl9221
There was something that just felt so, fulfilling about the ending. Waiting the weeks to get ng+. Seeing all the new clues and messages. Watching Alan realise sooner than he did the first time around. To finally getting a good ending to alans story. I cannot wait to see what control 2 has in store
@@audreydepo4847 To get this ending, you gotta replay it, you should see on the main menu 'Final Draft," which is a new game plus mode that you unlock after beating Alan Wake 2 for the first time.
I just finished the game and I wasn't expecting this ending to be in the new game plus. I'm happy, and here I though I won't get to see a good ending for Saga. I started crying when I heard Logan's voice.
They need to rework the combat mechanics but overall I was really engaged playing this. Melanie Liburd (Saga) did a wonderful job fleshing out Saga. I wish they would come out with a dlc that acts as a precursor to the Max Payne remake and I would like to see saga in control 2.
I am happy with this ending for Saga. Alan isn't done yet. The biggest mystery in this series still hasn't been resolved, and that would be the connection between Thomas Zane and Alan Wake. This game addressed A LOT of the lingering threads from this first one but the Zane plotline is even more unclear now. Especially considering Zane got in touch with Dr. Darling, and that has HORRIFIC implications.
Okay also if Remedy makes a third game, I think it would be amazing to see Alan and Alice working together/apart to escape a dark place. I love the idea of Alice’s photography capturing moments of time and things. I had this idea, which might be inspired by that Blairewitch game (I think), where Alice takes photos from a certain angle, and if someone where to find that correct angle and raise the printed photo to it, it could reset that scene. Maybe Alice and Alan are like two ships in the night, passing by in overlap-like instances, but kept apart in two separate realities. Maybe, Alan has written something but doesn’t know why or can’t remember, and Alice keeps finding pages on her side. She takes pictures to capture them, then hides the picture and leaves clues for him to find it on his side of things. Just a game where it’s them trying to reach each other but kept at arms length, once in a while maybe breaking through to the other side for a boss fight before getting separated. I love the idea of them being a power couple, cause they got it in them😂
Just finished the game, and wasn't really happy with the ending. Found out there's a true ending, but I'm not gonna replay it again for another 20 hours. Ain't nobody got for that lol. This ending is much better.
god this is amazing.. one thing worries me though, does this mean alice is now the one stuck in the dark place? also i feel like this quite ends well alan wake 2, not sure how else this could continue in alan wake 3 like we all thought from the first ending (maybe saving alice or something like that? trying to get rid of the dark place completely?), but also there's many questions still, with tom zane for example
@themanwithtomanyeyes8282from the things which can be fout in the dlc, i'm sure ahti helped to get them out but whether that's the case or not, i can't say i wouldn't love to see more! if there ever will be alan wake 3, i'm happy :D
@@Evilshtt353 yup, i'm aware! not saying more games like control for example couldn't be made and i'm sure it will add more into the story but just as of right now, i wonder how the stories could continue
@@Evilshtt353One dlc will only have Nights Springs stories with random characters and the other is about the lake house that is closed... probably a hook for Control 2
I understand the symbolism behind alan working with saga to finish the story in the end but it felt so cheap that saga capable of so many things Alan needed a dacade to do
Giving some much needed closure but just enough room for questions with no answers. Anticipation man! I was lucky to have discovered the first game by finding stuff about the second, and it’s been a huge spiral (hehe) from there on out. The Alan Wake games have become one of my top favoirte games of all time. Right up there with Twilight Princess and Red Dead Redemption2! I do wish we saw a scene after the Final Draft credits of Alan and Alice reuniting, or just confirmation that he’s on his way back to her, or maybe she’ll meet him along the way. Either way, I’m a writer myself. I’ll make those scene in my head for now lol
Very rarely have I desired to play a game all the way through right after I finished it. But narratively this made perfect sense. There were even subtle differences throughout the final draft. When Saga said she wanted this story to be written to save everyone, I believe that it did, even though you didn’t get to see everyone like Jaakko and Alice and Cynthia. But this ending was worth it, just to know Logan was alive and well.
Thank you for this, I don’t have the will for an entire play through just for this but it’s nice to see it. Still what happened to the sherif guy? and the old rockers?
Breaker remains as lost as ever. But there is another conversation with the Old Gods near the end. They're staying in the lake, but they implied that they're in on it, that Zane/Alan let them know about the role they were going to play.
The way this sets up as a possible trilogy is practically brilliant. The third game could potentially serve as both a prequel to the first game and a sequel to 2 all at the same time and loop everything back together.
Oh dope so Alan became a threshold by completing his narrative arc. Very good ending, great game, didnt even know about this until now though. I will not replay this game lol
Nah mr door is actually Martin hatch but they didn’t include his actual name because they don’t have the quantum break’s IP and it’s an Xbox one exclusive too same thing with jack joyce and tim breaker they are the same person ( and actor too apparently ) it’s just the universe is different between them
Ok the light bullet part makes perfect sense now to me just beat the game just like 5 mins ago and was really pissed about the base ending glad i looked this up
I hated the cliffhanger original ending but this the complete ending is so good! Casey, Saga, and especially Alan have suffered and sacrificed so much throughout the events of the game. They all deserved to come out of it safe and with hope for the future. So yeah, even the "happy" ending is true to the rules of the story i.e. a hero sacrificing something. Dying isn't the only sacrifice you can make
So I am left with 3 questions: - Can Alan get Alice back? - Who the F is Mr. Door? - What's going to happen to Tor and Odin who dove after Saga when she went to the Dark Place?
Mr. Door in short is basically a character from game, Quantum Break (Martin Hatch). He can just move through realities like some other dimensional being and is the father of Saga Rest i've no clue!!
Tor and Odin were in the fountain plaza where Saga enters to find Wake and when you talk to them theyll say something like "we have no more bussines up there, Tom didn't wanted us to tell you, but you'll see us again soon" 🥹
It seems like this series isn't coming to an end... yet. There are still many other Alan Wakes that is still going through that spiral. One finally escapes, the other has to repeat the loop. I understand now, Alice intentionally mislead Alan to thinking that she was dead, when all this time she decided to be trapped in the Dark Place so that she can assist the other Alans in escaping the Dark Place. Alan Wake has split into two when being shot by the Bullet of Light, present Alan is free, while past Alan has to go back to the beginning. The first playthrough ending shows that Alan is revived from the gunshot, with neither Saga nor Casey present in the writer's room, suggesting that he's back in the beginning of the game and has to rewrite everything in the horror story, also having absolutely no memory of what had happened in the future. Besides, he has the power to change the story because he started it, and the reason why the Bullet of Light splits Alan into two was because to make sure that the Dark Presence that appeared when past counterpart Alan returned to the beginning was to make sure that it won't escape to the real world and to go through this infinite loop with no means to escape, while Alan can find a way. Ahti has hinted this: "A man's a man, but with a tool makes two, Tom." This "tool", supposedly the Bullet of Light, makes (a man) Alan into two. What I've learnt is that this was Alice's doing too, she also seems to have created the Bullet of Light to split Alan into two where she can trap the Dark Presence in the Dark Place, in this loop, infinitely without trying to break out, giving Alan the time he needed to write himself in the story to try and get out.
"His story ends. Her story does not." What a f* cking epic loophole. Saga kills Alan, fulfilling the first line. But she didn't do so out of malice, or any desire too - only because it was necessary for the plot. And since they're now coauthors, and her story continues...so does Alan. A perfect catch-22, written in such a way that reality obeys the paradox without any fuss. And now we may have an Alan Wake who has sacrificed his humanity but is still bound to its memory...
The only thing I don't undersand is what happened to Alice. Was she a literal missing part of Alan the whole time? Is she still alive in the dark place somewhere? Can Alan zap betweem the Dark Place and reality whenever he likes now?
Alan is not a god, he can foresee future events but not like this. About Alice, if she talked to Saga in the Dark Place, then she jumped inside Cauldron Lake again.
When Alan Wake dropped in 2010, I was 15. My parents had moved to Florida. I was on my own from there on out, I was working under the table while living with friends of my family, and bought the first one and played it. The ending had always stuck with me, I’m 29 now, in the 13 year gap, myself, like many others went through their trials in life, I figured out what I wanted to do, and wanted to be. I just wanted to be a working man, and be a father. My son was born January 23rd 2023, and then I had gotten this game October of the same year. I work full time, have my own place, and am being the best father I can be to my son. I always found it a funny coincidence that I had reached where I wanted to be in life the same time Alan Wake 2 dropped, makes me feel a special connection to the series. We all have our Departures, we all have our Initiations, and we all have our Returns. We’re truly all on our own Hero’s Journey.
Bruh, that was beautiful! Thank you for sharing!
Watch our for your cornhole, bud
you work full time?
what is your work?
do you enjoy it?
Well that was really inspirational. I remember the last time I played AW1 and now after all these years just played AW2 after I got myself a gaming laptop. I have to agree this game is even better than the first. Congrats for your family and realizations and I wish you a happy life from Bucharest :).
@@myladychaos thank you for reading ❤️
Alan's final lines refer to Joseph Campell "Hero's Journey", where in Return the Hero comes back after the adventure "with wisdom or spiritual power over both worlds", but here he says many worlds
Sam lakes loves the heroes journey
@@pedrobernardes98It's all you need.
Door/Hatch is called a master of many worlds too.
god i love the symbolism here. the bullet hole, representing his sacrifice that represents him embracing collaboration and connection instead of sole authorship and isolation, forms a third eye, a symbol of enlightenment, which lines up perfectly with this part of the Hero’s Journey.
can’t wait for the DLC/Control 2/Alan Wake 3/whatever else remedy and sam lake put their insane genius minds to doing
The fact that you need to play the game again to get this ending is actually clever, because you need to go through it again, through the loop once more.
@crystalwings4520 it's not a loop, it's a spiral 😄
All of that is forthcoming.
@@DemonVido Alan Wake 2 is a masterpiece can't wait for night springs
Quantum Break in background be like: 😐
“The master of many worlds” I wonder if that’s gonna play into what Mr. Door was talking about earlier, where Alan “keeps opening doors, peeking in”
Alan knows there are other realities out there, so for sure
@@boogabear257 But if you look closely you spot there is a janitor cart. Ahti will take care of the problem and has a nice talk with Alan i am sure.
Reminds me of Bioshock Infinite and Elizabeth´s power to travel across time and space, would be kinda epic to see something like that in Alan Wake 3, this time no trapped but co-working with FBC to stop some monsters again
@@vladole4176 I think it’s very likely that Alan will eventually travel to other realities/dimensions but i doubt it’s gonna be in close coordination with the FBC.
Like Sam Lake said: Alan has sort of become the master of the supernatural, but 13 years in The Dark Place have made him a little loopy, and his powers, though raw, lack any sort of restraint. He’s very talented but not until the very end of the game does he even realise what his visions really are.
The FBC value control (see what i did there?) and caution above all else, so they wouldn’t bring Alan in unless they have absolutely no other choice.
As for Alan Wake 3: My guess is that Mr. Door is becoming some sort of Nemesis towards Alan, and seeing as he can roam the realities freely, Alan is gonna have to find a way to do the same. Probably through Saga.
It definitely brought a tear to my eye. After 13 years of dreaming and wishing to see some conclusion to Alan's story finally happened. I gotta thank Remedy that they never gave up on finishing this story....
but it isnt finished (and this isnt even the real ending)
@@Exel3nceit is it’s the new ending, they did the same in the original game and used the new ending as canon
@@Exel3nce it is the real ending though the final draft was supposed to show us what happened after Allen got shot and to show us if Logan was alive and to free Alan from the spiral he in
We will see if that's the real ending after the two dlcs this spring and fall
Brought a tear to my eye, too. How could Mr. Wake rob the world of an eternal deerfest
He makes it out of the dark place that’s a good ending
This ending was perfect for Alan finally escaping to make it back and Saga to hear her daughter is alive. Best ending ever.
Really loved Alice in this game.
I thought her acting on those videos were fantastic, and some of the best parts of the game for me. Really enjoyed seeing her having a much greater purpose in bringing some level of resolution to the spiral.
It's not a Lake. It's a Sam Ocean.
An ocean of creativity. Hollywood can learn a lot from this man
@@mr.heisenberg0122They don't have time to learn from such small fish. Didn't you know? They have to release their newest masterpiece in 6 months, bLoCkBuStEr series shitfart45 with a budget of 600 morbillion.
@@mr.heisenberg0122 Hollywood doesn't deserve him
That is just gold
@@dragondelsur5156 Hollywood also doesn't deserve Nolan imo
This was the best ending they could give us. You finally get confirmation that Logan is alive and it looks like Alan is leaving. Still some unanswered questions, but considering we don’t know when we’ll get a third game it’s perfect.
two dlc are coming soon
I think the cliffhanger served the story better, to be honest. It’s as Alan says: horror stories need the characters to pay a price. It makes no sense for the story to abandon its tone and suddenly be sunshine and rainbows.
@@primevaltimesplenty of horror stories have happy endings or at least endings where the protagonists succeed. There is not a hint of sunshine and nary a rainbow to be seen; horror doesn’t mean “at the end, everyone is either dead or writhing in abject misery due to having flaws” it just means spooky shit happens.
Don’t listen to Alan’s ideas about writing. He’s usually wrong, or approaching the ideas in a wrong headed way. There’s a reason his biggest fan is Rose fucking Marigold and it’s not because he writes highbrow genius Great American Novels; he’s a hacky, belligerent alcoholic who needed thirteen years and armies of helpers to fart out a book that wasn’t an airport paperback crime thriller about a pissed off detective scowling his way through murder mysteries. He was literally submerged in the fabled Creative Juices and managed to maintain his writers block for over a decade, spending all his energies on imagining himself being harangued by fans and praised on talk shows. Until this precise moment he’s been a shambling, wretched thing with a bloated, swollen ego weighing him down like Quasimodo’s hunch, and his obsession with “tHe StOrY hAs To Be DaRk AnD eDgY” has kept him stuck in place and harmed his loved ones.
This ending was well and truly fought for and earned. Get over whatever anxieties and neuroses about “happy endings” being for babies you have left over from your middle school english classes and evaluate endings in relation to the stories being told, you will enjoy things more
@@primevaltimes There's more ways it can go to that still. Alice is still in the dark place and she might be the one who ends up "losing"
@@primevaltimes That's EXACTLY why they played it out like that. Not giving the player everything at once. Excited for the DLC.
I can't even put into words how happy this ending makes me, just for Saga alone 😭
Hopefully no dark dlc twist 😱
@@ottoovelha6438 hopefully a BIG dark dlc twist 😈 as Alan says: horror stories need the characters to pay a price. Bring it on!
@@clarenceoveur9497He has risen above that now. Strictly adhering to the horror genre is one of the obstacles he put in his own way unnecessarily. Like Mr. Door and Sam Lake himself said. A lot of Alans "rules" aren't actually true, and were just a reflection of his own self-imposed limitations.
And Alan ofc
What about Alice
Just finished the ending and i love how we're pretty much directly where we were from the beginning, with alice in the dark place. It fits the 'its not a loop, its a spiral' so well, because we might be where we were 13 years back but were on different ground, different circumstances that will allow for some interesting things later down the line.
I think the ending is intentionally delayed. As for me, I just finished the game today and immediately came looking for this ending. When you finish the game for the first time, the credits role and Alan awakes and says “it’s not a loop, it’s a spiral”. I think the intention was to have the final draft playable right when you finish. Alan processes the whole thing as the final scene is playing. “We’ve met here before”. The fact that it’s a spiral, they wrote the ending that would finish it all and it had to be played out one last time to take effect. Hence, the Final Draft.
It's also a callback to Max Payne 2. You got the "true" ending only when you replayed the game on the highest difficulty.
eh idk, seems cheap
So I gotta play it all again ?
@@raydingle91 No, you just watch it on YT
@@Rave-agentstraight wisdom^ skip those cheap jumpies and get to the content
Either there will be an AW3 or no, this ending fits perfectly for both options.
I was a drunk and a drug addict for years.. I've been clean for a while now.. This game, in part, seems an allegory for fighting addiction.. The revelation at the end, that it is not a loop, it is in fact a spiral, is a revelation that many cured addicts can attest to.. Along with the strange, dark and ominous journey that Alan has gone through, this too is very much juxtaposed with fighting demons within.. A more poetic display of this war, I have not seen in this medium.. Bravo...
Congratulations man
Differently hits different when you tie it to mental illness/addictions allegory. When I think about that I even prefer the original ending more. The “it’s a spiral” totally felt very hopeful giving us clarity that we can make it out of whatever darkness that hold us
Good to hear that you overcame addiction and are well. I also think that the Dark Place is an allegory that refers to our within demons. I was looking for people's interpretation of the Dark Place and it is interesting to see how it varies base on people's own experiences. I related the Dark Place to depression, something that I was diagnosed some years ago.
@@JJose13 Depression and Addiction are kin, so it's very much the same battlefield.. Stay strong and light up the darkness..
Not everything is an artsy redemption or metaphor for your drug habits
Alan goes into the Dark Place to save Alice. Alice does the same back in return for Alan. So now we're back to square one.
At least now Alan have a will to write AND ideas of how to proceed:
1) Write meeting with mr. Door and find a way to get Alice and Himself out.
2) Write Jesse visiting lake in Control 2 to get Alice,Alan and lake power out to real world
3) Ahti always around, Darling also, Asgard bros.
@@Kairax I don't know if we'll ever get Alan Wake 3 but now that AW and Control are directly connected I am very much looking forward to Control 2.
I know Control can't focus too much on Wake's story, but I hope they bring some closure to certain aspects because there is still a lot of unanswered questions.
Main difference here is Alan returned as a F God so he could being Alice back with a blink of an eye.
Perfect ending here.
@@Krenisphia Yeah. Unfortunately sales have been really bad for AW2. It can be confusing game but will worth the effort.
@@JavenarchXNIGAH YOU STUPID IT SOLD
I couldn’t help but smile finally hearing Logan answer. But I can’t help but feel this just isn’t even close to being over. Scratch might be gone but that was just The Dark Presence creating something to mess with Alan. That resonance is still out there creating noise. It’s not just as simple as getting rid of the stage one boss when the mastermind is still out there. The Dark Place still exists and there’s no way it’s completely shut off. We have seen what happens when it combines with The Hiss with Heartmans story…it’s still connected to at least The Oceanview motel in many thresholds if not by other means like Cauldron Lake or minor Overlaps we used in AW2 or worst the projector in Control with a slide that may just yet be discovered.
We have won the battle and this is a great calm but the war isn’t over and the true storm hasn’t even started. That scares me. What happens when The Hiss gets out of The Oldest House, spreads like wildfire with The Darkness still being able to cross realities?
What if Northmore breaks out or worse gets infected by The Hiss and The Dark Presence?! Some writer struggling to control his own stories, Jessie and Polaris are not equipped to fight such things. What is Alex Casey going to detective his way into slow mode shooting at it while the FBC is trying to do damage control not even knowing what Mr. Door is even trying to do outside of all this mess? Dr. Darling…we need you back buddy. You are one of our only hopes. The trilogy has been finished, however that was only the first few chapters of this Space Oddity Odyssey.
" Scratch might be gone but that was just The Dark Presence creating something to mess with Alan" Scratch was made by Zane
"Thank you my love" - Tom Zane
Alan wake Zane bad
Oh I remeber it was in Yoton Yo wasn't it ?
He finally figured out how to write the ending. With the help of so many. Can’t wait to see where he and Saga go in the future of this world.
Do you know what happened to Alice after this ending?
@@OSHhl8479it seems Alice has overcame the dark place, in a way. She figured it out so much faster than Alan and went even further. Wherever she is, looks like she isn’t endangered
@@LittleAngryCarrots I mean, is she out of the dark place or is she still trapped?
@@LittleAngryCarrots all we know that she is alive not dead
Thank you for posting this, I just finished my playthrough a couple of days ago, and i was so heavily emotionally invested in the game that the ending left me feelings emotionally exhausted...and when I went to play the Final Draft I realized the game just repeats itself and I just wasn't ready to replay it just yet...but I had to know what happened to Logan, to Alice, to Alan...goodness. I might replay it soon on Final Draft, especially now that I know the Final Draft ending is so much more fulfilling and satisfying than the original! What an intense but amazing game!
my friend said his dead ngl how u feel is how i felt i am so glad he isn't [or is he?] guess nobody knows but ye the game was amazin
Better ending than original loved everything went good at the end
Not all. Alice is still in the dark place. So Alan will most likely go back there to save her.
@@Dak1624 Don't forget that the Anderson brothers are also there.
Yea, I agree ,but its still a great ending. Alice helping him ascend out of the spiral. He says he is the master of many worlds so im assuming that will help him get Alice out of the dark place.
Anderson brothers will be fine.@@cezzardke732
@@HeLios77716 they still need to address Zane, the Alan that called himself, the Alan that left notes for Rose, etc
Wait, the phrase Master of Many Worlds was on Tim's board! I thought this was supposed to be the title for Mr. Door?
I have a feeling Mr.Door will be the next big bad, either in one of the DLCs or the next game.
@@popump2617 Or maybe in Control 2 💀
The detail in these games is absolutely insane. All of the connections to every other game, even one that is technically not in universe, but definitely connected.
When I realized Tim Breaker meant "Time Breaker" I lost it. Don't know how I didn't realize that before.
Most of all I just love how everyone who is a part of this project seems to genuinely love it. They seem so proud of what they have done and they should be.
It's brilliant and ridiculous and all of the things I love.
I grew up on Evil Dead and every other Bruce Campbell comedy horror.
These games balance the comedy and horror so well.
I'll admit, Control is still my favorite game in the series. It's the most fun because you just get to fling giant boulders at people possessed and mutated by an inter dimensional resonance, I just wish they added a NG+.
Have played that game up and down, there is always something new to find, though, so I keep replaying.
Literally cannot think of a single playthrough I didn't find some new file connected to Alan Wake, or find a new hidden room.
It's a great game and awesome connections to Alan Wake that shed a lot of light on things, but also still leaves new questions.
It's fantastic.
This game is a very close second, it was everything I was hoping for. 13 years we waited. I am so excited for the new DLC coming out in October.
This series deserves all of the awards. I really hope they continue with Control 2 and maybe just have it completing the Alan Wake story. Possibly having Jesse help Alan somehow.
Either way, I will consume any content they put out. Even if they gave us a little crumb sized game like Alan Wake's American Nightmare to keep us satisfied. Lol
You know what is neat here... the fact that you get NEW stuff from NEW game + Another loop, or better yet after another trip down the spiral. A bit of meta thrown in. Love the detail :D
not gonna lie, that ending with the phone ringing was a 10/10, but still glad "almost" everything is over now, i cannot wait for the sequel, this was easily one of my fav games of the past year
I just hope Sheriff Tim makes it home!
maybe will make a new game for him " THE LOST "
Home like Bright Falls... or Quantum Break?
@@luenguzman3212 Microsoft: Did I hear something?
Tim Breaker’s story is probably gonna be explored further in the Night Springs DLC, so you’ve got that to look forward to
Master of many worlds! So we are getting Max Payne, Quantum Break, and Control all together under the Remedy Banner, nice!
This gives me thoughts about how the Max Payne 1 and 2 Remake will be done.
I’m guessing Sam Lake is not just remaking Max Payne, but bringing Max to the Remedy Universe. Alan is rewriting Mona Sax in 2, in that she doesn’t die.
Minus quantum break, since that ip is still owned by Microsoft
@@parsashirali8957 true but microsoft sold them alan wake back so maybe they'd do it to get Tim Breaker his real powers lol
@@parsashirali8957 Max Payne is also still owned by Rockstar.
Microsoft owns the quantium break IP, so that won't be in the universe
10/10 ending ❤
This ending gave me goosebumps, thanks for this unbelievable game. This optional ending was all I could ask for!
Optional? Its the true ending.
Did anyone notice Casper Darling had an extended scene in Oceanview Hotel? That was awesome
And the Film in the cinema was different now
@@spock11189 Is it?
@@GlivGluvyeah it’s the directors cut of Yoton Yö
@@pierre-charlesleonhart8357 Really? I don't think anyones uploaded it
More than him singing Dynamite in Control?
"The master of many worlds". I have a feeling he meant all Remedy's games's worlds by that cuz we know they're connected. But...what about Alice? Did she stuck in the Dark Place...AGAIN? Or did she die? I hope they give answers in the DLCs.
She went back to the Dark Place, yes.
Alice and the Anderson brothers are now stuck in the Dark Place fighting the good fight.
She jumped back into the Dark Place to try and help save Alan.
Bro if Alan died there is he woke up in dark place ? I mean Alan was in real world and saga shoot him right and if Alan really died ,can he woke up in dark place ?@@ozfroggirl9221
this title was on Tim's board. I thought it was supposed to refer to Mr. Door?
Finally my boy Alan gets some closure
There was something that just felt so, fulfilling about the ending. Waiting the weeks to get ng+. Seeing all the new clues and messages. Watching Alan realise sooner than he did the first time around. To finally getting a good ending to alans story. I cannot wait to see what control 2 has in store
I had chills when Logan finally answered that phone
Remember, Mr Door: 'the next time we'll meet circumstances will be very different'
This is the REAL ending. I was very confused with the stock game one. Not super happy about that, but I'm glad it all makes sense now!
How can we got this ending tho??
@@audreydepo4847 To get this ending, you gotta replay it, you should see on the main menu 'Final Draft," which is a new game plus mode that you unlock after beating Alan Wake 2 for the first time.
@@audreydepo4847 You have to play The Final Draft, after you end the game the first time, you need to play it again.
I just finished the game and I wasn't expecting this ending to be in the new game plus. I'm happy, and here I though I won't get to see a good ending for Saga. I started crying when I heard Logan's voice.
They need to rework the combat mechanics but overall I was really engaged playing this. Melanie Liburd (Saga) did a wonderful job fleshing out Saga. I wish they would come out with a dlc that acts as a precursor to the Max Payne remake and I would like to see saga in control 2.
I am happy with this ending for Saga. Alan isn't done yet. The biggest mystery in this series still hasn't been resolved, and that would be the connection between Thomas Zane and Alan Wake. This game addressed A LOT of the lingering threads from this first one but the Zane plotline is even more unclear now. Especially considering Zane got in touch with Dr. Darling, and that has HORRIFIC implications.
This is just such an emotional and sincere ending. I can't stop thinking about it. Sam Lake and Remedy as a whole have something truly special.
The perfect ending...I love this sooo much!!!!
Okay also if Remedy makes a third game, I think it would be amazing to see Alan and Alice working together/apart to escape a dark place. I love the idea of Alice’s photography capturing moments of time and things. I had this idea, which might be inspired by that Blairewitch game (I think), where Alice takes photos from a certain angle, and if someone where to find that correct angle and raise the printed photo to it, it could reset that scene. Maybe Alice and Alan are like two ships in the night, passing by in overlap-like instances, but kept apart in two separate realities. Maybe, Alan has written something but doesn’t know why or can’t remember, and Alice keeps finding pages on her side. She takes pictures to capture them, then hides the picture and leaves clues for him to find it on his side of things. Just a game where it’s them trying to reach each other but kept at arms length, once in a while maybe breaking through to the other side for a boss fight before getting separated. I love the idea of them being a power couple, cause they got it in them😂
Just finished the game, and wasn't really happy with the ending. Found out there's a true ending, but I'm not gonna replay it again for another 20 hours. Ain't nobody got for that lol. This ending is much better.
god this is amazing.. one thing worries me though, does this mean alice is now the one stuck in the dark place? also i feel like this quite ends well alan wake 2, not sure how else this could continue in alan wake 3 like we all thought from the first ending (maybe saving alice or something like that? trying to get rid of the dark place completely?), but also there's many questions still, with tom zane for example
Keep in mind we're getting two DLC's.
@themanwithtomanyeyes8282from the things which can be fout in the dlc, i'm sure ahti helped to get them out but whether that's the case or not, i can't say i wouldn't love to see more! if there ever will be alan wake 3, i'm happy :D
@@Evilshtt353 yup, i'm aware! not saying more games like control for example couldn't be made and i'm sure it will add more into the story but just as of right now, i wonder how the stories could continue
They're already out of the dark place.
@@Evilshtt353One dlc will only have Nights Springs stories with random characters and the other is about the lake house that is closed... probably a hook for Control 2
A very good ending ☺️! I just finished it and I left the game now with a smile my face 😊
How can we get this ending??
@@audreydepo4847 New Game +
@@audreydepo4847 New Game plus
@@audreydepo4847 new game plus
I understand the symbolism behind alan working with saga to finish the story in the end but it felt so cheap that saga capable of so many things Alan needed a dacade to do
The ending Music is Great bro Becoming Batman . You seem to have good music choice
It’s so good they made a game where you didn’t even know you’ve already been through it before from the characters perspective it’s insane
Sam Lake and Remedy team, my friends you bow to no one. ❤
Alan finally is free 😢 so many years he’s suffered, I never thought I’d get this sequel my life is complete
Giving some much needed closure but just enough room for questions with no answers. Anticipation man! I was lucky to have discovered the first game by finding stuff about the second, and it’s been a huge spiral (hehe) from there on out. The Alan Wake games have become one of my top favoirte games of all time. Right up there with Twilight Princess and Red Dead Redemption2! I do wish we saw a scene after the Final Draft credits of Alan and Alice reuniting, or just confirmation that he’s on his way back to her, or maybe she’ll meet him along the way. Either way, I’m a writer myself. I’ll make those scene in my head for now lol
This was awesome, but I was not about to play all that all over again lol. Thanks for posting
Very rarely have I desired to play a game all the way through right after I finished it. But narratively this made perfect sense. There were even subtle differences throughout the final draft. When Saga said she wanted this story to be written to save everyone, I believe that it did, even though you didn’t get to see everyone like Jaakko and Alice and Cynthia. But this ending was worth it, just to know Logan was alive and well.
Just finished my 8th playthough, final draft. I am the master of many worlds.
Anyone else noticed the mop and wet bucket 😅😅(janitor man)
Thanks for this. Not going to go through the spiraling loop because it was tiring.
My god I wouldn’t have played through all of that again for that ending that should’ve been there in the first place
Thank you for this, I don’t have the will for an entire play through just for this but it’s nice to see it. Still what happened to the sherif guy? and the old rockers?
Breaker remains as lost as ever. But there is another conversation with the Old Gods near the end. They're staying in the lake, but they implied that they're in on it, that Zane/Alan let them know about the role they were going to play.
Alan mentioned he is a "master of many worlds" maybe he has a big role in control 2.
Dr Darling is in the Dark place too, you can see in 2 TV in the Final Draft Update. So that is an option.
The way this sets up as a possible trilogy is practically brilliant. The third game could potentially serve as both a prequel to the first game and a sequel to 2 all at the same time and loop everything back together.
Many worlds is basically Sam's way of saying Alan will be in Control2 and other remedyverse games as super powered writer.
Thanks for this. Definitely wasn't planning on playing through the whole fucking game again lol.
Alan Wake the master of many worlds.
Man this game is so damn good, i love it
Need more context on this Mr Door guy. Is he Saga's father?
That seems to be the implication.
Every hint points to that conclusion
I would say it's 95% likely that he is lol
@@ozfroggirl9221 It's so heavily implied, it's basically told to us outright.
Good, I really didn’t feel like replaying this lol
This just save me another playthrough. Thank you
Thank god for youtube. I dont have to playthrough again to see the good ending
Alan: "Master of many worlds"
Hatch: "Yeah? I worned you..."
Oh dope so Alan became a threshold by completing his narrative arc. Very good ending, great game, didnt even know about this until now though. I will not replay this game lol
I bet the 2 DLC's will be Alan saving Alice, and Saga saving the Anderson Brothers...
I think one will be about the lost FBC station kiran mentioned.
And dont forget Dr. Darling is in the dark place too and meet Tom Zane.
The DLC's are about Night Springs and the FBC Lake House.
sadly no. they're standalone DLCs
Im glad they made the final draft ending worth the reply. I was worried theyd be stingy with it but its a great great ending to the game.
Pretty sure that mr. Door is Saga's dad
Nah mr door is actually Martin hatch but they didn’t include his actual name because they don’t have the quantum break’s IP and it’s an Xbox one exclusive too same thing with jack joyce and tim breaker they are the same person ( and actor too apparently ) it’s just the universe is different between them
@@lordviic I don't feel like that is mutually exclusive, but fair point
@@lordviic You do know they are two completely different actors for Mr Door and Martin Hatch don't you? But yes Shawn Ashmore plays both Jack and Tim.
Not gonna lie i shed some tear, alan is free after so long.
Ok the light bullet part makes perfect sense now to me just beat the game just like 5 mins ago and was really pissed about the base ending glad i looked this up
Best game ive played in a long time
I wish I could find the song that plays at the end on Spotify. I love the little synth in it and how beautiful it sounds.
The song from the credits? I believe its Heroes and Villains from Poets of the Fall
@@oscarmena4987 No I mean the song that is playing during Alan's narration here at the end
@@Lonequacker idk if you still need it but it's called "The End(s)?"
I hated the cliffhanger original ending but this the complete ending is so good! Casey, Saga, and especially Alan have suffered and sacrificed so much throughout the events of the game. They all deserved to come out of it safe and with hope for the future.
So yeah, even the "happy" ending is true to the rules of the story i.e. a hero sacrificing something. Dying isn't the only sacrifice you can make
So I am left with 3 questions:
- Can Alan get Alice back?
- Who the F is Mr. Door?
- What's going to happen to Tor and Odin who dove after Saga when she went to the Dark Place?
Mr. Door in short is basically a character from game, Quantum Break (Martin Hatch). He can just move through realities like some other dimensional being and is the father of Saga
Rest i've no clue!!
@@关系-g7v I guess we will see in the DLC or in Alan Wake 3!
Tor and Odin were in the fountain plaza where Saga enters to find Wake and when you talk to them theyll say something like "we have no more bussines up there, Tom didn't wanted us to tell you, but you'll see us again soon" 🥹
I think he is Heimdall, or something like that. Some people said he might be Loki.
Yes a good ending I was hoping see what happened to her daughter I'm glad she alive
I seriously loved this game and the second ending was perfect got the season pass cant wait fot night springs dlc
I don't understand anything anymore... I'm going crazy. This is kind of crazy. Help :(
now , the master of many worlds
I would be happy if a series of Alan Wake came out
This should end Alan Wake's Story since the Master of 2 worlds (many worlds) is also the end loop of the hero's journey
It seems like this series isn't coming to an end... yet.
There are still many other Alan Wakes that is still going through that spiral. One finally escapes, the other has to repeat the loop. I understand now, Alice intentionally mislead Alan to thinking that she was dead, when all this time she decided to be trapped in the Dark Place so that she can assist the other Alans in escaping the Dark Place.
Alan Wake has split into two when being shot by the Bullet of Light, present Alan is free, while past Alan has to go back to the beginning. The first playthrough ending shows that Alan is revived from the gunshot, with neither Saga nor Casey present in the writer's room, suggesting that he's back in the beginning of the game and has to rewrite everything in the horror story, also having absolutely no memory of what had happened in the future. Besides, he has the power to change the story because he started it, and the reason why the Bullet of Light splits Alan into two was because to make sure that the Dark Presence that appeared when past counterpart Alan returned to the beginning was to make sure that it won't escape to the real world and to go through this infinite loop with no means to escape, while Alan can find a way.
Ahti has hinted this: "A man's a man, but with a tool makes two, Tom." This "tool", supposedly the Bullet of Light, makes (a man) Alan into two. What I've learnt is that this was Alice's doing too, she also seems to have created the Bullet of Light to split Alan into two where she can trap the Dark Presence in the Dark Place, in this loop, infinitely without trying to break out, giving Alan the time he needed to write himself in the story to try and get out.
Dude this ending was way more satisfying to get to, the line ringing ending had me a bit pissed.
This extended ending is happy but hilarious 😂
There was no way in hell I was playing this game for a 2nd time so here I am 🙃
What's the soundtrack that plays in the end? It's so awesome.
The soundtrack bro
"His story ends. Her story does not."
What a f* cking epic loophole. Saga kills Alan, fulfilling the first line. But she didn't do so out of malice, or any desire too - only because it was necessary for the plot.
And since they're now coauthors, and her story continues...so does Alan. A perfect catch-22, written in such a way that reality obeys the paradox without any fuss.
And now we may have an Alan Wake who has sacrificed his humanity but is still bound to its memory...
See you on 2036 for a third game. 13 years.
This means he now has control over his powers,in terms of powers between him and jesse,he is more powerful.
I am happy they bring Sam Lake in it
With Alan Wake free of Scratch's insidious presence...
I wonder if now Alice is to Alan Wake what Polaris was to Jesse Faden?
The only thing I don't undersand is what happened to Alice. Was she a literal missing part of Alan the whole time? Is she still alive in the dark place somewhere? Can Alan zap betweem the Dark Place and reality whenever he likes now?
Alan is not a god, he can foresee future events but not like this. About Alice, if she talked to Saga in the Dark Place, then she jumped inside Cauldron Lake again.
What an ending
Looking forward to The Lake House DLC. Perhaps that's where Alice gets saved.
Love this game to death but there was no way in hell I was gonna replay the whole thing just for a different cutscene
There's more of 1 scene. New Manuscripts Pages & scenes of Darling and Zane. And new dialogues
It's a New Game + anyway.