Ilkka getting to act and voice his own character, and it being Tom was such a good call, and also gave Ilkka a chance at portraying a character entirely.
Yeah I kind of don't like that they do the voice/ motion mismatch thing but at the same time? I love Matthew Porretta's voice as Alan, though I feel like Ilkka could easily train himself into that voice if he had to. Horizon Zero Dawn/ Forbidden West does this too. Hannah Hoekstra being the image and Ashley Burch being the voice. Now, the voice nobody alive could mimic? James McCaffrey's LOL
Both these characters are written so well as Melanie mentioned. And getting them see together in a live action scene was also so cool. Here's hoping that someday, I can talk in depth with her about her role
There's a point in the game where Saga and Alan meet in the overlap, and from Saga's perspective, she's very frustrated and angry at Wake for having written Logan into the story, but from Alan's side, he perceives their meeting as a good thing, where he sees Saga as a good force helping him. I thought that was kind of a beautiful way to show how differently we can experience things.
For Wake, it may well have been subconscious validation that he finally got it right. Consider the Night Springs DLC (whose episodes pop up in the main game once it's been installed). Those were his previous attempts to reach out to potential allies--Rose, Jesse Faden and Tim Breaker--that got him nowhere. Saga was his first true success.
Remedy's games are a whole different genre tbh. No matter what they are, action, horror, or story-focused survival games, they all share the bizarre, Remedy touch. It's like its own sub-genre.
@@shpeenut I think aside from the unfortunate associations, there's another problem with Alan Wake 2: If you want a PRAYER of understanding it, you better have deep dived Remedy lore going all the way back to Death Rally including the games that "aren't in the Remedyverse" like Quantum Break. I did, so I loved the game with one of the craziest most extensive lores ever, but if you're aiming for those Resident Evil bucks, it won't hit the target. It was made for it's target audience and hit *that* target - but not a general audience. I'm not even criticizing them for this - it was a game made for those of us who love Remedy games, I just feel bad the studio is always fighting money problems.
@@BlazingOwnager That's a total misread of the overall story of AW2. First, you're not SUPPOSED to know everything that is going on, not even at the end of the Final Draft. You get your basic questions answered and that's it. Second, it's never a priority in any Remedy game to know all the Easter eggs. For instance, I had no clue about the Max Payne/Alex Casey connection and the references to Old Gods Of Asgard and Bright Falls meant nothing to me when I was playing Control the first time. None of that subtracted from my enjoyment and understanding of the main story.
@@johnathonhaney8291 I think that's more the case for Control than AW2. I don't think it's a misread to say that you will grasp things far, far, far better if you've really done a deep dive in lore and the other games before playing AW2; where as in Control, it's just some winks and a nod. What I'm saying is for a newbie, Control is *way* easier to jump into than Alan Wake 2. Same with Alan Wake 1 and Control or Quantum Break (which really figures in, esp in Time Breakers for some major lore dumps, even if 'non-canon'). Alan Wake 2 quadruples down on the connections.
What I loved the most about this game was how it acknowledged the passage of time. So many people from the first game really met some dark fates behind that.
I love how excited Ilkka is about Zane, because he was such a huge highlight for me, just brilliant and fun to experience! And I love how intense Melanie made Saga - pragmatic, but still so sensitive. They're both so good!
It's always fun to catch the little lilts when she lets her accent get through. Specifically when she says her full name. People in the US will say Saga AN-DUR-SUN. She says AHN-DUH-SUN.
Omfg I love Melanie Liburd so much♥️♥️♥️♥️ she’s so gorgeous & a wonderful actress!!! I’ve always have a crush on her since i first seen her as Nyx in Dark Matter!!! She did such a great job in her performance as Saga in Alan Wake 2, such as her roles in Brian Banks & Bad Boys Ride or Die!!! That actor, IIkka Villi he gives me John Wick vibes & he was great in his performance as Alan!! Wow he looks like Keanu a little!! Props to the both of them, I like their chemistry together 👏
Good to finally see Melanie included in the promo material. I really liked Saga and Alan's interactions in the game and how she called him out on his writing lol
Its great to see Ikka with his natural voice :) glad you gave him his own spin on zane where he gets to shine, his delivery and accent is so emotional and stunning, could hear him talk for hours... glad remedy keeps getting all those unique actors instead of some boring overhyped celebs.
I'm so happy Ilkka got to play Zane with his own voice in the game and put his own spin on the character. Mesmerizing! And Melanie made Saga so cool with her groundedness and perserverance. Every actor just delivered such great performances. Many thanks to them, Petri Alanko, Sam Lake, and the entire brilliant Remedy team for this awesome game 🤩
i have done at least 7 playthroughs of this game. each time i find something new. this game has seriously become a comfort for me, it’s helped me get rid of stress from work. these two portrayed their characters so beautifully. it’s always nice to see ilkka!! he’s awesome!
Remedy Entertainment has very good artists. I am a fan of the atmosphere and attention to detail that you put into your games. I wish you to continue to be yourselves and thus stand out from other studios, to enrich our player experience.
Compare the in game models of the actors in a Remedy Game to the rest of "AAA." If Ubisoft made Alan Wake, Saga would have gained a double wide face with no expression outside of her lower face and Alan would have a thousand yard stare and look like a cartoon.
Yeah, the whole team, from Sam Lake on down, has consistently acknowledged that. Alan's relatable but he's also a bit of a self-indulgent prick. Without other people in his life to anchor him, he just loses the plot (pun intended).
thanks to Melanie and Ilkka for this coversation, they are so nice with each other! And thank you remedy for making such a great game, can't wait for the next dlc!!
there've been rumors about a tv show for years from AMC, but I have no clue what's going on with it. maybe now with the success of AW2 they will start moving forward faster
I'm happy enough they kept much of Alan Wake's story in gaming. I'll happily see any films that would have Alan in it, but I rarely go to the movies. I am more likely to pick up a controller in the comfort of my home than go to the theater, nowadays. I make exceptions, though, and Alan Wake would definitely be one of them! 🥰
@Daelyah I wonder if we'll see a remedy game either alan wake or control in the next secret level season. I say next because I know it's going to do amazing. I also can't see Sam Lake not jumping on that opportunity
Remedy has been a huge part of life from when I used to play Max Payne as a kid with my dad. It killed me to hear about James passing. Love every title from you guys and can’t wait for future titles ❤
I love these too, and I'm happy that Ilkka gets his own character in the game as well. I really love Saga's character how she differs from Wake and how she manages to control her emotions in stark contract to Wake who has been in the Dark Place for so long. I don't want to spoil the game for those who haven't played yet, but they are both amazing characters.
Remedy = Perfect face scans of 3D models that look so close to their real life actors that they bound through the uncanny valley when they switch Ubisoft = Turns their actors into malformed frog people
Loved this game but.... I beat Alan wake 1 atleast 40 times. I couldn't even get through this twice? Loved the first play through! No real desire to do it again....
Go through The Final Draft, which is the New Game Plus option. Not only will you find it easier with your unlocked upgrades, you'll get a few extras including the true ending.
Saga's character is so unbelievably well written. Little theory I've had for the longest time is that since Saga was originally going to be portrayed as white, her original father might have been Tim Breaker instead of Warlin Door. I honestly prefer it being Door though. The sheer tension between Alan and Door because of this is fantastic. Saga's character over all is such a masterpiece in the final product. The only complaint I could even give would be that singular out of place line in the late game. It's such a random and undeserved tonal shift at the most critical moment in her character arc. Those who know will know exactly what I'm talking about.
How's this for a theory: If we accept that Saga's granddad and great-uncle are reincarnations of their namesakes, then that would potentially make Door another Norse myth figure (recall the page Alan wrote where Odin lost his eye). To wit, Mir, guardian of the fountain of knowledge.
@@johnathonhaney8291 I figured he's definitely Loki because we know he's fought the Old Gods before, and I really do not believe Phat Bob Baldur died to leukemia. I think Door did it.
@@solidspooks1290 That's only if you accept the antagonist interpretation of Door, which I don't. Could have just easily been the Dark Place that took Phat Bob with that leukemia. Also, in the myths, Mir was the one who took Odin's eye as payment for the drink...just like Door did.
@@johnathonhaney8291 He is objectively the villain after DLC 3, but before that it was heavily implied since he is just Martin Hatch, and during his angry exchange with Alan he says "The next time we meet will be under very different circumstances." I actually wasn't aware of the Mir part, but that does open up some new interpretations. I had originally thought he was Loki since Loki also played with the Old Gods, his name was "Loki Darkens", and they call Warlin Door the "Dark One." Plus, we can see very clearly his musical expertise in Herald of Darkness. Also, the death of Baldur is what initiates Ragnarok, and if Odin and Tor are fighting against anyone, it seems like it might be Door. Then again, in Anger's Remorse they claim that they were the ones that drove Door away, not the other way around.
@@solidspooks1290 Door is neutral in the extreme. If he seems like a villain, it's because he has a far different set of priorities than the humans he deals with. "Time Breaker" was the very essence of "unreliable narrator" condensed into story form. So I wouldn't trust the Actor to have been within a million miles of the truth on Door. Oh and the Norse also had a mythical name for the Dark Place: Ginnungagap. Strikes me that a sentient force like that would have a vested interest in kicking off Ragnarok, hence why I think it killed Phat Bob.
Both games were brilliant and very unique experiences. Creative plot and gameplay, memorable characters, entertaining dialogue, phenomenal music… just a great all around adventure.
Yeah, that's a deliberate gray area. Zane's lost "Lady Of The Light" was still thinking that too. Given how the force in the lake warps reality, who knows what the truth is right now?
Ilkka getting to act and voice his own character, and it being Tom was such a good call, and also gave Ilkka a chance at portraying a character entirely.
Well deserved too. I wonder if he'll be the "big bad" for the lake house dlc
Yeah and TOM ZANE is actually originated from Finland so If there is accent it's okay.
Yeah I kind of don't like that they do the voice/ motion mismatch thing but at the same time? I love Matthew Porretta's voice as Alan, though I feel like Ilkka could easily train himself into that voice if he had to. Horizon Zero Dawn/ Forbidden West does this too. Hannah Hoekstra being the image and Ashley Burch being the voice. Now, the voice nobody alive could mimic? James McCaffrey's LOL
They both did a great job on playing their respective characters.
Both these characters are written so well as Melanie mentioned. And getting them see together in a live action scene was also so cool. Here's hoping that someday, I can talk in depth with her about her role
Hello, you. Always there for all things Alan Wake haha
There's a point in the game where Saga and Alan meet in the overlap, and from Saga's perspective, she's very frustrated and angry at Wake for having written Logan into the story, but from Alan's side, he perceives their meeting as a good thing, where he sees Saga as a good force helping him. I thought that was kind of a beautiful way to show how differently we can experience things.
The overlap scenes were amazing
For Wake, it may well have been subconscious validation that he finally got it right. Consider the Night Springs DLC (whose episodes pop up in the main game once it's been installed). Those were his previous attempts to reach out to potential allies--Rose, Jesse Faden and Tim Breaker--that got him nowhere. Saga was his first true success.
"I'm actually really excited about Zane."
Same, Ilkka...same.
by looking at the way they talk and explain everything you can clearly see their love devotion and passion for this piece of art.
Remedy's games are a whole different genre tbh. No matter what they are, action, horror, or story-focused survival games, they all share the bizarre, Remedy touch. It's like its own sub-genre.
yeah, but not everyone like it. this is why Alan Wake 2 feels attacks
But you can also see the roots too: Rod Serling's Twilight Zone, David Lynch's Twin Peaks, Lovecraftian cosmic horror, among other things.
@@shpeenut I think aside from the unfortunate associations, there's another problem with Alan Wake 2: If you want a PRAYER of understanding it, you better have deep dived Remedy lore going all the way back to Death Rally including the games that "aren't in the Remedyverse" like Quantum Break. I did, so I loved the game with one of the craziest most extensive lores ever, but if you're aiming for those Resident Evil bucks, it won't hit the target. It was made for it's target audience and hit *that* target - but not a general audience. I'm not even criticizing them for this - it was a game made for those of us who love Remedy games, I just feel bad the studio is always fighting money problems.
@@BlazingOwnager That's a total misread of the overall story of AW2. First, you're not SUPPOSED to know everything that is going on, not even at the end of the Final Draft. You get your basic questions answered and that's it.
Second, it's never a priority in any Remedy game to know all the Easter eggs. For instance, I had no clue about the Max Payne/Alex Casey connection and the references to Old Gods Of Asgard and Bright Falls meant nothing to me when I was playing Control the first time. None of that subtracted from my enjoyment and understanding of the main story.
@@johnathonhaney8291 I think that's more the case for Control than AW2. I don't think it's a misread to say that you will grasp things far, far, far better if you've really done a deep dive in lore and the other games before playing AW2; where as in Control, it's just some winks and a nod.
What I'm saying is for a newbie, Control is *way* easier to jump into than Alan Wake 2. Same with Alan Wake 1 and Control or Quantum Break (which really figures in, esp in Time Breakers for some major lore dumps, even if 'non-canon'). Alan Wake 2 quadruples down on the connections.
8 minutes is not enough, i want more. What a wonderful people you are, i love you all.
This game was such a dream for us fans since 2010. Saga was an amazing addition to this story. Thank you Sam and team!
What I loved the most about this game was how it acknowledged the passage of time. So many people from the first game really met some dark fates behind that.
I love how excited Ilkka is about Zane, because he was such a huge highlight for me, just brilliant and fun to experience! And I love how intense Melanie made Saga - pragmatic, but still so sensitive. They're both so good!
The Jim Morrison angle on Zane was something that never occurred to me. But now that it's been mentioned, I totally see it.
They both did a phenomenal job! I hope we get to see more of Saga and Zane in the future!
Melanie played Saga BRILLIANTLY btw i'm always shocked from hearing her accent
It's always fun to catch the little lilts when she lets her accent get through. Specifically when she says her full name. People in the US will say Saga AN-DUR-SUN. She says AHN-DUH-SUN.
@@reje3814 ugh her accent is perfect I love it, it’s sexyy!!!
God, these actors brought these characters to life. Perfect casting, flawless acting, just nothing but love/admiration for them.
And they say „for games, we don’t really have acting.“ 😮
mind blown!!
Mamazon.
Omfg I love Melanie Liburd so much♥️♥️♥️♥️ she’s so gorgeous & a wonderful actress!!! I’ve always have a crush on her since i first seen her as Nyx in Dark Matter!!! She did such a great job in her performance as Saga in Alan Wake 2, such as her roles in Brian Banks & Bad Boys Ride or Die!!! That actor, IIkka Villi he gives me John Wick vibes & he was great in his performance as Alan!! Wow he looks like Keanu a little!! Props to the both of them, I like their chemistry together 👏
Good to finally see Melanie included in the promo material. I really liked Saga and Alan's interactions in the game and how she called him out on his writing lol
Its great to see Ikka with his natural voice :) glad you gave him his own spin on zane where he gets to shine, his delivery and accent is so emotional and stunning, could hear him talk for hours... glad remedy keeps getting all those unique actors instead of some boring overhyped celebs.
love these two so much omfg, alan wake 2 means the world to me. i love saga, and i love thomas zane so much. these two killed it
I'm so happy Ilkka got to play Zane with his own voice in the game and put his own spin on the character. Mesmerizing! And Melanie made Saga so cool with her groundedness and perserverance.
Every actor just delivered such great performances. Many thanks to them, Petri Alanko, Sam Lake, and the entire brilliant Remedy team for this awesome game 🤩
Ilkka is so handsome...
I'm so unhealthily attracted to both of them. They did an amazing job and it's fun to hear Ilkka enjoyed Zane as much as us fans did.
i have done at least 7 playthroughs of this game. each time i find something new. this game has seriously become a comfort for me, it’s helped me get rid of stress from work. these two portrayed their characters so beautifully. it’s always nice to see ilkka!! he’s awesome!
You play horrorgames to cope with stress? I guess the thrill is quite a relief. Have a good day
@@thegrimsleeper07 i guess if i’ve played it enough it isn’t so scary. (that’s a lie i still scream at some sections.) have a good day too! haha
Ill try to replay it again but I didnt really enjoy the Alan Wake sections as much. Rock opera was cool though
@@neoxcryptic hahaha, very relateable. Thanks
@@neoxcryptic No, I totally get you there. If life is going especially terrible, moving through a horror game can be wonderful catharsis.
Loved these moments to see the actors gush about their work. Gotta replay this game again
So glad to hear from them both! ❤ Ah, Melanie! Never hear from her too, this is awesome!
I really hope we get to see Saga and Director Faden working together on Control 2!
Love these two! Looking forward to getting more from Saga, Zane and Dr. Darling in The Lake House!
I love the quality and tone of the writing for Alan Wake. They both acted so well in it 👋
Melanie, Saga was my favorite game character since Joanna Dark, you did such a great job thank you.
Remedy Entertainment has very good artists. I am a fan of the atmosphere and attention to detail that you put into your games.
I wish you to continue to be yourselves and thus stand out from other studios, to enrich our player experience.
In a more just world, they'd be as successful as EA is in this one.
Compare the in game models of the actors in a Remedy Game to the rest of "AAA."
If Ubisoft made Alan Wake, Saga would have gained a double wide face with no expression outside of her lower face and Alan would have a thousand yard stare and look like a cartoon.
I really like the acknowledgement that Wake isn't the most likeable, that he has issues that are important to acknowledge.
Yeah, the whole team, from Sam Lake on down, has consistently acknowledged that. Alan's relatable but he's also a bit of a self-indulgent prick. Without other people in his life to anchor him, he just loses the plot (pun intended).
Rip james McCaffrey
I don't know why these great people can get hate, just like Sam Lake, I just admire them a lot.
I sadly do.
Love you, Remedy. Been a huge fan since 2001 when i first got Max Payne CD
Best game of 2023 ! I enjoyed this game so much
Hands down!
thanks to Melanie and Ilkka for this coversation, they are so nice with each other! And thank you remedy for making such a great game, can't wait for the next dlc!!
Absolutely loved this game.
DLC is a blast too!💯
Fun fact: the Night Springs DLC becomes playable in the main game via special TVs once you've installed and restarted the main story.
It is so jarring to see Ilkka talking in a voice other than Porretta... And damn Melanie did an amazing job on her american accent
I really hope there can be an Alan Wake TV show/movie one day with the same actors!
Considering how influenced by Twin Peaks Alan Wake is, it's a no brainer!
there've been rumors about a tv show for years from AMC, but I have no clue what's going on with it. maybe now with the success of AW2 they will start moving forward faster
There is Twin Peaks and also a "Bright Falls" mini series which is surprisingly good. Highly recommend if you haven't seen those yet.
Good news!
They just announced Control and Alan Wake film/TV adaptations and that means AMC's TV show is dead thankfully
Beautiful job from both of these legends, love it
I don't know why but that pegi 18 sign at the beginning reminded me the old good days with R* Games..
Rockstar in the 00s is something we probably wont see again. We had it good for the ps2/ps3 eras
@@Seatanic True words.. But i hope that Absurd Ventures will revive that aura!
Loved saga and alan, cannot wait for the last dlc
Best game in recent years, unprecedented mix of live action, musical, gameplay, story and really good acting
Love this wooooo. Looking forward to the Lake House expansion
Alan Wake 2 would have been a blockbuster horror movie if they made it a film
Agree 👍
I'm happy enough they kept much of Alan Wake's story in gaming. I'll happily see any films that would have Alan in it, but I rarely go to the movies. I am more likely to pick up a controller in the comfort of my home than go to the theater, nowadays. I make exceptions, though, and Alan Wake would definitely be one of them! 🥰
@Daelyah I wonder if we'll see a remedy game either alan wake or control in the next secret level season. I say next because I know it's going to do amazing. I also can't see Sam Lake not jumping on that opportunity
@@creedofadeadman854 It COULD work but a lot of factors have to go right for it to be worthwhile.
I'd want to see a full length version of Yöhtön Yö.
Remedy has been a huge part of life from when I used to play Max Payne as a kid with my dad. It killed me to hear about James passing. Love every title from you guys and can’t wait for future titles ❤
Loved Saga's story and look forward to more as she joins the Remedy pantheon with Wake and the Director.
Favorite game of 2023. Loved the story and the characters so much 💕
Saga/ Melanie =❤
They make incredible job. Can't wait for the latest saga dlc.
Thank you Remedy for inspiration! I finished my new horror book and releasing to Amazon now. God of Asgard are also legends, listened for hours
Both great actors; Ilkka Villi is hot!
I have literally waited 14 years to play this game!!!!!!!!! The physical comes out next week and I am absolutely beyond excited.
18 years? Wow illlka that’s quite a few years. And menalie you do an amazing performance as saga.
Just saying congratulations for escaping Epic Games, Remedy. I'm proud of ya.
Love the relationship between these two 💚💚
They both did a great job. Especially Ilkka who has to play Alan, Scratch and Zane sharing the roles of Alan and Scratch with Matthew Porretta.
I love these too, and I'm happy that Ilkka gets his own character in the game as well. I really love Saga's character how she differs from Wake and how she manages to control her emotions in stark contract to Wake who has been in the Dark Place for so long. I don't want to spoil the game for those who haven't played yet, but they are both amazing characters.
Both fantastic in their portrayals!
Love their work in these games.
I LOVE THEM SOOOO MUCHHH!! SO TALENTED
Love Melanie so much
Remedy, you've createed a masterpeace. Keep on
Loved both of them. This game should have won game of the year.
You guys spoil us fans, thanks Remedy I love your games so much! If you work with or at Remedy I'm a fan of you!
SAM LAKE IF YOU EVER COME TO GREECE MY HOME IS YOUR HOME ❤️❤️🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
I got the platinum trophy on my ps5 for this amazing game 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Awesome lil behind the scenes love watching these, more please!!
Man yall should’ve let her voice Saga in dbd 😭
Detroit Become Dooman?
It wasn't their call, sadly. I'm sure they would have if it had been.
So good
Brilliant work!
I love hearing how excited Ilkka was to play Zane! ♥ Also, Melanie is the sweetest!!! 🥺
Such cool people.
this was amazing! i whish this would have lasted for hours!
好喜歡這樣的演出，更愛遊戲了 ❤。 期待新的DLC
Aaaaaa! Saga's from Essex (?) Run!
...kidding. She's still adorable. It's not a complete dealbreaker.
Love these two, looking forward to more from Remedy
Remedy = Perfect face scans of 3D models that look so close to their real life actors that they bound through the uncanny valley when they switch
Ubisoft = Turns their actors into malformed frog people
OMG this is epic
Thank you for this fascinating story and great plot. you are super
Tom zane es un loquillo ! .... El bon scott de la literatura 🤟😎
He is Alan Wake
We need Alan Wake 3, PLEASE!
Alan wake model and voice actor separation 🥷😎🌎
6 days ago 😢 😪 😔 😞 😕 💔 😢
ikka sounds just like the voice actor....why didnt they just use him for both haha
Gah I can't wait for the Lake House DLC!
Loved this game but.... I beat Alan wake 1 atleast 40 times. I couldn't even get through this twice? Loved the first play through! No real desire to do it again....
Go through The Final Draft, which is the New Game Plus option. Not only will you find it easier with your unlocked upgrades, you'll get a few extras including the true ending.
Mélanie Liburd so talented and beautiful, i hope we see her in Alan wake 3
i love you guys so much ❤😢 Ilkka so wonderfull ❤
Looks interesting! I'm gonna learn english from this video
What a F@$KN GAME!!!!🔥🔥🔥
Why is this video not 1 hour long??
well talking about restrictions - remedy should upgrade their motion capture shooting technology
Saga's character is so unbelievably well written. Little theory I've had for the longest time is that since Saga was originally going to be portrayed as white, her original father might have been Tim Breaker instead of Warlin Door. I honestly prefer it being Door though. The sheer tension between Alan and Door because of this is fantastic. Saga's character over all is such a masterpiece in the final product. The only complaint I could even give would be that singular out of place line in the late game. It's such a random and undeserved tonal shift at the most critical moment in her character arc. Those who know will know exactly what I'm talking about.
How's this for a theory: If we accept that Saga's granddad and great-uncle are reincarnations of their namesakes, then that would potentially make Door another Norse myth figure (recall the page Alan wrote where Odin lost his eye). To wit, Mir, guardian of the fountain of knowledge.
@@johnathonhaney8291 I figured he's definitely Loki because we know he's fought the Old Gods before, and I really do not believe Phat Bob Baldur died to leukemia. I think Door did it.
@@solidspooks1290 That's only if you accept the antagonist interpretation of Door, which I don't. Could have just easily been the Dark Place that took Phat Bob with that leukemia.
Also, in the myths, Mir was the one who took Odin's eye as payment for the drink...just like Door did.
@@johnathonhaney8291 He is objectively the villain after DLC 3, but before that it was heavily implied since he is just Martin Hatch, and during his angry exchange with Alan he says "The next time we meet will be under very different circumstances."
I actually wasn't aware of the Mir part, but that does open up some new interpretations. I had originally thought he was Loki since Loki also played with the Old Gods, his name was "Loki Darkens", and they call Warlin Door the "Dark One." Plus, we can see very clearly his musical expertise in Herald of Darkness. Also, the death of Baldur is what initiates Ragnarok, and if Odin and Tor are fighting against anyone, it seems like it might be Door. Then again, in Anger's Remorse they claim that they were the ones that drove Door away, not the other way around.
@@solidspooks1290 Door is neutral in the extreme. If he seems like a villain, it's because he has a far different set of priorities than the humans he deals with.
"Time Breaker" was the very essence of "unreliable narrator" condensed into story form. So I wouldn't trust the Actor to have been within a million miles of the truth on Door.
Oh and the Norse also had a mythical name for the Dark Place: Ginnungagap. Strikes me that a sentient force like that would have a vested interest in kicking off Ragnarok, hence why I think it killed Phat Bob.
Both games were brilliant and very unique experiences. Creative plot and gameplay, memorable characters, entertaining dialogue, phenomenal music… just a great all around adventure.
Wait a minute , did ilkka said zane was a filmmaker ? I thought he was a poet all this time🤔
Yeah, that's a deliberate gray area. Zane's lost "Lady Of The Light" was still thinking that too. Given how the force in the lake warps reality, who knows what the truth is right now?
I had noticed for a while you all had the name switched to "poison pill"..... Therr has to be something behind that.
I just can’t see that Alan and Zane are the same actor like what. They are the same right??
steam date?
It is always baffling when you figure out an actor is British when the character is not.