Is The Core Different Than The Elite Series 2? Full Tear Down Guide
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- Опубликовано: 15 июл 2024
- Side by side comparison of the internals of the brand new Core and the 3 year old Elite Series 2, shows what you may assume. Verbatim from Xbox's blog: "heard players loud and clear and have continued to improve Elite Series 2 controllers to be more reliable than ever before with refined components that are built to last".
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0:00 What We Are Doing Today
1:03 Warning!
1:47 Difficulty Rating 4/5
3:23 Removing The Front Faceplate
4:55 Removing The Rear Shell
6:16 Internal Layout
7:41 Thumbstick Removal
8:05 Separating Mother and Daughter Boards
9:05 Rubber Membrane Switches
9:38 Tearing Down The Core
10:46 Battery Removal and Comparison
11:38 Full Side By Side Comparison
13:45 Reassembling Controller
18:24 Testing Controllers
19:33 Lessons Learned
20:49 Outro
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So I realized I called the "pair" button on the top of the controller the "share" button like severalllll times in the video. In the heat of the moment of an intense tear down I guess "share" sounded better to me than" "pair" lol. Hope you enjoyed the break down of these controllers.
I was really hoping the core had shorter trigger stops than the other is that not true? Ok you already said they're the same but I just gotta know
Is there a share button though? I've looked everywhere through Google asking "Is there a share button on the series 2 core" I get nothing no one tells me and no one on Google seemed to ask I've hit a couple clips the other day and couldn't capture any clips cause the share button isnt in the middle anymore.
@@GoofyPoptart It doesn't. You have to understand the Elite 2 and Ellie 2 Core controllers are based on the Xbox One controller, which never had a share button.
Edit: The Elite 3 will def have a share botton tho.
@@GoofyPoptart No but you can easily program one
Love and appreciate your videos, taking the time making them, having correct information and the sarcasm along with it lol.
*However can you please STOP saying the Elite 2 Core has “cheaper plastic material”… it doesn’t. It has the same exact made plastic material as the Black version does. Literally every part and grade material make is identical to both. As myself and you have done a tear down on the Elite 2’s lol.
I get where your coming from because it’s different and “Feels cheap” but that’s because They gave it a Matte finish/feel in White, with a slightly rough surface feel on purpose to be unique compared to the Black Elite version.
Same Shell and strength, Just a different finish. They did that on purpose, one of the reason is because it’s harder for fingerprints and smudges.
- Xbox community complained about the first and second Gen Black Elite being so easy to see any marks and oil from or hands.
Both Elite 2 controllers are identical besides the finish.
However if it was a “cheaper plastic” Microsoft’s sales revenue would actually cost More if they had a “different/cheaper” Plastic. Because alll Xbox controllers are made with same plastic material, just different finishes, therefore having another grade plastic would cost more and make no difference since all the internal parts are exactly the same on the Elites, thankfully Microsoft didn’t try scalping us with any cheaper parts on the Elite Core lol
You're a f**king legend! I've been waiting for a full hardware comparison between the 2 new elite controllers.
Fantastic breakdown, while at the same time extremely disappointed that the internals are identical. Such a huge shame. You'd have thought MS would actually improve the parts, but no. This was extremely helpful, I'll prob test my luck with the black elite 2 bundle with warranty since I really want wireless.
Thank you for your efforts and taking the time to make this video, no other controller reviewer comes anywhere near you, absolute legend!
costs them less to lie about improvements and have their marketing team spread that lie
I wasn't surprised that they weren't different and why would they be? They are the same controllers just a different color with no components packed in. I bought the white one recently only because I liked the color. I think white was a new welcome over the standard black
@@redcrimson1028 Why would they be different? Because of the thousands of quality control issues with the one before which MS even acknowledged and said they learnt from, that's why.
Did you get your controller? How has it held up?
@@wicho99w99 Yes bought the black elite 2, but had stick drift so I returned it.. I now have the new scuff and its been fantastic so far
Great breakdown and comparison sir. Its pretty amazing seeing all the pieces that go into making a controller.
Thanks for this video and the review man, fantastic videos.
I ended up buying the Elite Core because I really wanted that white shell and it’s been a couple of days and I’m really happy with it, it’s been flawless fingers crossed it will stay that way, i have some experience disassembling controllers so it wouldn’t be a huge deal to open it up.
I read that the bumper issue is easily fixed by using contact cleaner on the bumper button itself
your wall the background telling me first sight that you got legit expertise !! 😃👍
I Definitely appreciate the work you put into your video's. Great Content and thanks for helping me decide what controller im getting this holiday 👍👍
Massive shoutout to that Ace of Spades just chilling back there. Great video dude. New follower but been loving the content
Welcome aboard! Thanks man, glad to hear that
My number one complaint with the Elite 2 is the bumpers, they’re the only components that have broken for me. I don’t want to take it apart and fix it because then I would void my warranty which I have a 2 year extended warranty which i’m glad i bought because of course the controller broke. If they fixed those then I would be happy with this controller. If it weren’t for these quality issues this would be the best controller on the market
I fixed mine by opening the front plate, albeit with some hassle, and putting some 99.9% isopropyl alcohol in the bumper buttons.
I love your videos they are very blunt and clear and addictive keep it going
Thank you
This chanel deserves more attention defenetly. Thank you for the video.
I appreciate that!
You the man been looking for this video
Awesome tear down video and commentary
Been waiting for this
Thanks for this, your efforts are appreciated 👍
Great video bro. Perfect presentation 👍
Brilliant tear down cheers
Thank you! Been waiting for this. Just saved me $
Awesome video!
I went thru two Elite 2's after a couple of months (always that dang right bumper) and was hopinggg the Core would be different but hmmmmmm. This channel is goated btw!
*through
Have been waiting for this for days bro hyped it's here!
Hope you enjoyed it!
@@GamerHeavenOfficial I did thank you for braving the breakdown, I know I'm not gonna be ripping apart a working controller any time soon lol I'm constantly looking for another one, I've tried the fusion pro 2 and the paddles keep falling out, I loved the turtle beach recon, the buttons were so much better than the flappy paddles that wouldn't stay in the controller but there were only 2 buttons and it developed stick drift within 2 months and LB died not long after, after using 4 back paddles I can't go back to 2, do you have any suggestions? Maybe the paddles on other controllers are more consistent though, I saw a controller with magnetic sticks but could only be used on PC, I know I should probably watch a couple hours of reviews but if you have a controller in mind please let me know Kev, stay safe stallion.
@@GamerHeavenOfficial there is no costume action for right sticks and triggers! ? That sucks
another way to remove the faceplate is to go through the top of the RB LB edges. Put a plastic trim removal tool in there and pry up closer to the sides of the controller. once you pop a couple of tabs out it gets easier to pull the rest of them out.
Been waiting for this video since the damn thing was announced.
Funny thing is that in Europe (live in Poland) we had one year warranty all the time. At least last 2 years. During last moths MS extended it to 2 years. Big difference:)
Megacorps got everyone fooled with their “regulations are unnecessary and evil!” propaganda. Far from the only lie they’ve successfully pulled off for decades.
Fine. This is what I was looking for, brother.
If you have issues with the bumpers try shaking it a bunch gently up and down, it can knock it back into place if it’s only working sometimes or with forced clicks
Spilled Mountain Dew on my ABXY. Miserable to get to. Thank you for the in-depth video.
That smoking ace of spades tho 🙌♠️ rip cayde-6♠️
I do have one good thing to say about the Elite 2 and that’s the battery life. I love how it has an internal battery and it feels like I can play for days without having to charge that thing. I can charge it like once per week and the battery life is fantastic
That's awesome. I have to recharge my ps5 controller everyday. Really sucks...
@@Calx9 everyday tf lol
Yup. Everyday if not every other day. @@SnackJar
Better than an iFixit video. Good stuff.
When it comes to removing the faceplate I had no problems with scratching or damaging my elite series 2 in the several times I’ve opened it. Nor have I had the need to use a heat gun, I just pried it up from the the top, no problems. Maybe you’ll want to try that in the future, good video, have a pleasant day.
Honestly the first time I took apart my elite controller I didn’t even worry about the adhesive, I just pulled it off and the adhesive came off with it
the plastic covering for the bumper tac switches are to give leeway for the wear on the platic button when it makes contact... when your buttons finally get wore to all hell you will want that plactic in there. also it helps absorb pressure on the switch.
I haven't even watched the video yet but this is what I was wanting to know
Thank you for doing this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thx! Nice vid
Thanks for the video, was interested to see if there was any differences between the two, apparently not, so much for Xbox saying they had lol, still not had any issues with my original series 2, at some point i'll probably replace it with this one(or wait for the V3), but customize the colours etc in the Xb Lab.
Is that a freeze gun on you're desk? Can't stop watching it looks so cool lol
Part of me is surprised they're still using the 1797 boards instead of a modified 1914 or newer board, but part of me also isn't surprised considering this is just an Elite Series 2 with new shell plastics. Speaking of the plastics, I wonder if they're actually different, or if just the surface treatment is different. Guess we won't see much until a Series 3 exists.
Though the pots are different, they're not the typical teal-colored ALPS that the original ES2 run had used, and what most first party products use. As far as I know, the DS5 and 1914 controllers, the two newest models of first-party controllers, use the teals still. Although, interestingly, the Steam Deck is using blacks like the ES2-C is using, though I'm not entirely sure if Valve is sourcing from ALPS or a third party; similarly, these pots could just as easily not be ALPS as well. This change has seemingly happened within the past year or so, because I've seen original ES2s with teal pots, yet your ~9 month old ES2 has the same black pots; maybe this whole 'quality control' thing Microsoft is boasting has been in the works for awhile, they may also be testing pots for quality before assembly for all we know, but I have a feeling the black pots contribute to this. I'm also not sure about third parties, because not all (if any?) are sourcing components from ALPS, I know K-Silver is one of the other big suppliers, though there's probably a handful of cheaper suppliers supplying the bottom of the barrel third parties. Given how ALPS has had a massive drop in quality over the past generation, I'd be curious to see if the black pots are ALPS, ALPS of higher quality, or ALPS at all.
An alternative to a heat gun is also a hot bag. Ifixit sells them, other vendors sell something similar, or you can just microwave a bag of water and rice; I would recommend this over a heat gun in the vast majority of cases, never use a heat gun unless the tool is actually needed for the job. The rubber grips may also need a thinner than typical tool, alternative type of pry tool, or there may be an alternative trick to getting the shell to separate nicely, such as using a suction cup or 'massaging' the clips out of place without a pry tool by flexing the shell correctly, if the shell has enough give; there has to be a way to not mar the rubber.
Why are they still using potentiometers at all?
stripped down 100s and never damaged rubber grips. insert plastic prying tool between shell and RB or LB has close to the rubber grip has pos without touching the rubber and twist the tool may take a few twist or a cpl of swaps to the oposite side and eventually you will feel the side you are working in will lift up, work a second tool in to the gap and work your way around the controller carefully popping each clip has you go job done. ps nice vid and love caydes ace of spades
My elite 1 was amazing with no issues , had 3 series 2 knew button sticking , next stick drift and buttons sticking on 3rd was fine but now has stick drift but past warranty
Still have my launch 1st model elite controller and it works fine but the right thumbstick rattles but it still works, weird.
I went through all your videos in your controller playlist, was hoping to find a video ranking your top pro/premium controllers. I had the scuf vantage 2 for about 5 months during covid and got serious stick drift on my left stick along with breaking multiple paddles (cheap plastic imo). I’ve been playing with the core Xbox series X controllers since. (I’m on pc btw) I value your opinion and in depth guide and was just curious what you think is the all around best pro/premium controller based on price point, durability, and features. I miss having paddles for shooters and platform fighters and am looking into buying another one.
Elite 2 is best at The moment. $150 direct from Microsoft
They changed the warranty for the elite series 2 a while back. I bought one back in March 2020 and almost a year later in Feb 21, my bumper was only working every 1 out of 5 clicks. I went to the Xbox website, and they have these notifications sometimes when you go and check. One of them said due to frequent whatever the warranty was extended to a year. thankfully I was able to get a replacement almost right at the cutoff point.
This was great then, but now the rubbers are coming off. This one a problem I had with the series 1 I never expected to have with the series 2. it's like the rubber deformed over time. I wish they would either make the grips a rubber sleeve with nubs that socket in, or just have texture on the plastic and spray the sections over with the rubber coating they have on the face plate. Also, they need to put a little adhesive on the rubber tips that go over the trigger stop switches. Those things fall of and disappear. If you do get a new elite2 remove them and put a tiny touch of glue.
One other tip, if you're playing a game that is heavy on bumper usage, map them to the paddles. The arm that depresses the actuator for the bumpers is a built-in point of failure on all one/series controllers, its long and brittle. They used to be worse on the first version of the xb1 controller where the bumpers were a single mould across the front of the controller, that could snap at the flex point.
As I say to friends interested in this controller: “This is the best pro controller ever!….when it works…”
It’s so good, comfortable, and great battery life! Unfortunately the right bumper failed on me during warranty so I had to change it….and got a refurbished one. Here’s the cynical me thinking the refurbished one will fail within a year so in my pov this is not a got deal given how expensive it is and how other controllers usually last.
This is exactly what happed to me this week. My refurbished one failed just outside of the warranty window....
@@OnlyDanGames I got lucky. Called MS customer support, exposed my case in a candid manner, they looked at my file (MS customer for years, history of elite series 2 issues) and they accepted to replace my controller one more time, despite been out of warranty. Let's be honest, by now they probably know how shitty the quality is, and probably have tons of used controllers been refurbished. If they don't wanna have a PR mess, the least they can do is sending you a refurbished one at no cost. Cause it seems they are not spending money fixing the quality "core" issues.
This is why I’m looking forward to the PS pro
I’ve take several elites apart without damaging the rubberized grip. Nor did I have to use a heat gun. Use several picks like the ones that come on ifixit kits and just pry from a corner and keep prying and leaving picks in. easy peasy
Can you do a video on the calculations? Radial. Axis independent and true diagonals. hat the diff is and which is better for what type of games
That’s a lot of work, thanks for showing us! Had they bothered to include some paddles I’d have grabbed this thing in a heartbeat.
Your channel should have been called
" Controller Heaven " well for obvious reasons.
Unfortunate, honestly would've at least liked for the elite core controller to come with a higher stock polling rate or ability to be overclocked.
Edit: I just got my elite series 2 controller back and they sent me one that looks brand new. Even though I had already opened it since I thought the warranty ended (should have I bought it over 2 years ago). I'll probably hold off on making a design lab one for now and see if they add any colors/hear back from others on quality.
I would think that there has to be SOMETHING that's different from the OG 2 or else MS couldn't say that it has "refined components that are built to last." Maybe they look the same but are made of a (slightly) different material??? Also, maybe the "cheap" white plastic is the same that the Series S is made out of?
Sent my Series 2 Elite in to MS, twice within the warranty for a non responsive/mushy A button. Both times it was sent back with nothing done. They claimed it was fine. Both times I submitted a ticket I included a video showing me pressing the A button 20 times, less than 10 of them registering. I took it apart and fixed it myself but it didn't last long. I tried just using a paddle button to replace A but years of muscle memory didn't go away. Needless to say I won't be buying any premium MS controllers ever again. My XB1X launch controller is going strong, 4 years on though.
Hey, love the vids!!! I am doing a resto/mod/upgrade on an old Razer Sabertooth controller. I am thinking about putting the same joysticks as the series 2 controller in it BUT I need to know how wide the magnetic base is to make sure I have clearance. Can you tell me if the series 2 base is the same size or larger than the the standard 360 controller? Is the series 1 the same or smaller than the series 2? Thanks keep the vids coming.
I bought Elite Series 2 this month and it came with 2 years of warranty. ;)
I bought the elite series 2 about 6 months after it's release. Then recently purchased 2 of the white core controllers a few months ago. I don't quite understand what the problem is with the controller. I've had zero problems with any of mine and I got 2 kids that are constantly dropping them on our hardwood floor. If I had one complaint, it would be the weight and the quality of the grips. After my son dropped one of the controllers the grip was damaged
Warranty in European Union countries is pretty nice, no extra cost, 2 year warranty on all electronic goods.👍
Customers need to do a better job of making noise about manufacturers continuing to use potentiometers instead of hall effect sensors
I bought my elite 2 10 months ago and absolutely zero issues. With extreme use
That’s reassuring, my Mrs got me one for Christmas been loving it
Hmm, I am unsure about your assesment about parts. They might look the same, but maybe they changed the dimensional torelances for some parts, which in return could help the worst case scenarios. It would had been really interesting if you measure the parts with a calliper and maybe make a deeper assesment on blends and chamfers made on the corners. Either way, very interesting video!
You can use a guitar pick and extreme care to avoid most cosmetic damage during the front plate removal. You really just need to avoid metal tools for that part since they're harder than the plastic shell.
yes, guitar picks, plastic spudgers are key. I've repaired a bunch of these, and you couldnt even tell I was in it.
Great video. The Cheapass plastics on the core is why I returned it as soon as I opened it
Don’t blame you friend
Honestly I like the way the elite core controller looks more then the other one. I bought it one day then returned it the next, it was a super nice controller…. But it wasn’t 140 dollars nice.
Kind of a godsend that I found this video. I bought a modded Elite Series 2 controller a year ago that has some cool custom mods like rapid fire dropshot and auto ADS,. but I really like the look (and superior build quality) of the Core, so I basically transferred the guts of the first controller to the Core. This video helped out a ton!
What is the purpose of a modded controller?
It’s funny I’m Canada the core is 155$ and elite 2 is 220 $. I went with the core and ordered a large button/ trigger pack from Amazon for 38$ so the only thing I’m missing is the case . So I’m now left with a series 2 core with everything other than a case with a one year warranty for 190$
Brooo where did you get that ACE OF SPADES on your desk? Is that for when mormi moto is on with the smoke??? I need that
what about the bumpers? are they using the same switches? I have a unusable E2, with both bumpers inactive, no matter how hard tou press.
The way he says "brass prongs" lmao
Great review! I just have one question - Are they identical?
Yes sir
You should do this, but with the Xbox Design Lab elite 2 controllers. I'm curious if they're a better build.
I'm curious too really.
13:05 talking to your camera like it's a bimbo screwing up your video is actually hilarious lmao
12:08 This was a surprize honestly. The soft feel material on the black elite is my favorite part about it. I ordered a customized blue Elite Series 2 from xbox design lab the same day the service opened and i can't wait to see what that material feels like.
Could you give an update once you have it? I want to know how it feels.
@@joedpa Sure. I ordered it on the 18th and estimate was 3-4 weeks, so 1-2 weeks to go,
@@epicon6 Commenting so I get the update as well :P. I was about to order one with the design lab as well, but now I'm hesitant due to how many times I've had issues with the bumpers. Very disappointed it seems they did nothing to improve it.
@@akaoz2617 Estimated delivery date is 9th of November so i'll have it soon
@@akaoz2617 Oh wow! This looks so much nicer than on the preview photos! I got a Dreamcast inspired one (European Pal region cd case inspired) with a blue top and bottom, everything else on black except fully colored ABXY and red thumbsticks and of course a Dreamcast written on the controller.
The blue was one of my least favorite colors in the preview but i had dreamed of getting a Dreamcast inspired controller just 2 weeks before Xbox added these to the custom program and even asked Sega and Xbox to make one.
The blue color is much deeper and darker and it fits with the black grips really well. The fully colored ABXY are also so amazing it's hard to describe. The colors are super vibrant. I also love the bumpers and cross shaped d-pad in black and they look even nicer than the gunmetal parts in the standard black elite.
The top and bottom plates aren't the soft material like on the black one but that's because the black top and bottom are the same material as the grips and that couldn't be painted. I think the painted one feels incredibly good to the touch and it doesn't constantly look dirty like the black one. I'm constantly wiping the black one clean even though i always wash my hands before using it and don't snack when i use it.
All buttons and sticks work perfectly. I have 4 Elite Series 2 controllers and i have had a really good experience with quality control. My first one had an RB button that didn't register some of the time but it fixed itself after a few months and has been working perfectly since.
I really recommend mapping the left and right stick clicks to the smaller paddles on the bottom of the controller because i believe that will save you from any stick drift issues because you never have to press the analog sticks down. I got stick drift on my very first Elite v1 controller and got that replaced under warranty and mapped the clicks to the paddles and the replacement is still working great.
I can't wait to order more of these.
I posted 3 pics on my Twitter @EPICON8
The photos are a bit dark because i wanted to show how dark the blue is and still only the last photo where it's next to the black elite s2 shows how it looks to the eye.
I wish there were optical microswitches, that you could put on that blue board ...
ACE OF SPADES RULES!..
Got my elite 2 on day of release, felt solid. However, after 2 weeks my left thumb stick no longer clicks in, you only have to apply very light pressure for the left stick press to register so it’s really difficult to play, sprinting happens when you don’t want it to. Also the LT trigger got harder to press over time.
well that sucks :(
Very uncommon problems in my experience.
I removed the top plate from my Elite Series 2 controller without damaging the rubber grips, worked it from the top by the Xbox home button, even used a butter knife
I’m kind of behind on seeing this one, but you didn’t check if the bumper spacers were swapped and I couldn’t even see them on the core.
Can MS be sued for false advertising? Saying they improved components but they're exactly the same?
On my third Core controller (6th series 2 altogether) and it still has the A and Y button unresponsiveness. I don't believe they updated, fixed or changed anything.
Why do y’all buy Paddle controllers than don’t bind A B X Y to your paddles ? The whole point is so u don’t have to touch the actual buttons lmao
@@YeooJohn I find the paddles to be annoying. I shouldn't have to reconfigure my playstyle of 20ish years just to have a top of the line $200 controller to work properly.
Are the bumpers the same quality as the Elite 1 or Elite 2?
Elite 1 bumpers broke all the time on me and the elite 2 only broke once or twice.
So has this been fixed? Because I just spent $250 on a custom series 2 that arrives in three weeks. Will it be broken out the box?
i have the elite 2 and i have to fix the bumper problems more than once a month, the problems always come back in like a week and i have never been able to fully fix it. i have to buy a new controller now since its now fully broken but i just dont think theres another good alternative, and if i buy this exact one again i will probably have the exact same problem within a year.
RIP Cayde.
Edit: I just went through virtual chat and typed in my serial # on my controller. It says it's still under warranty o.o. Do you think I'll be able to get away with sending it in after I already opened it. The warranty expired over a year ago haha.
I thought I did bad opening mine, but I only have a little dot of plastic missing on left side and a little bit of the rubber on same side. I only want to know if the bumper has been improved. I got lucky and had 2 years of warrant(which I used several times), but it has long since ended and have had to open it several times since :/. On the positive side I got several extra thumsticks/pedals sent to me each time I sent my controller in.
They actually updated the warranty on the Series 2 as well to 1 year, it’s the same controller.
Last time when I bought Elite 2 on sale (Poland) I received two years of warranty. Maybe only in Europe.
For some reason, the wrong microphone preset sounded better to me. I would fall into the older end of your viewers though.
Legal speaking it dosnt void you can take them to coart and most likely win
thanks for the description of 'extremely cheap' white plastic for the core
I left the elite 1 controller idle for a few months and it became very sticky when i came back for it. and that's why i didn't buy the elite 2
Only problem I've ever had with either elite 1.0 or 2.0 controller is the stupid rubber grip ends up falling off. Wish I could get one without that crappy grip
I bought an elite series 2 like 2-3 weeks before the core came out and when I check it on Microsoft it has a 1 year warranty not a 3 month warranty you said. Maybe they change them for both a few months ago to both be a year.
Yes the warranty was changed after a lawsuit against Microsoft for purposely not fixing known problems.
Do a review on the airpod max as a gaming headset.
Funny you mention this, this exact video is in the works my friend !
@@GamerHeavenOfficial I seen a video on how to make them into a gaming headset but they didn’t go into detailed review like you would. I wanted a set for airplane rides and i stead of buying another gaming headset I bought all the accessories needed to make it into a gaming headset.
bought 2 elite 2's and they both stick drift within 2 months. Never again until they fix it. I got a fusion 2 and it's been 2 years with no issue.
My left top bumper went out. So i bought a used elite series 2 from amazon and swap the bumpers and returned it 😂 heat up the screw stick and use tweezers. Free fix
Before I watch this I'm going to predict that no, the joystick modules are exactly the same.
Dude they lied. Only thing that is different is that now, it's even harder to take apart.
Do they use the same battery cover?
So how can Microsoft get away saying re-engineered parts and components if that’s a complete lie ? Can someone not sue them for this ?
They could claim they revised the parts sometime during the Elite series 2’s 3 year life span because there is no way to really disprove that.
can you do a video on controller modz au? for a ps5 controller review
Yes I can
My guess is they rearranges some traces and components but other than that it is the exact same controller
Didn’t the black 2019 elite controller get a update from a 3 month to a 1 year warrenty ?
Yes it did , I actually just learned that myself recently
Bummed to see there’s nothing noticeably different within upgrading certain features to enhance the controller /: but thanks for voiding your warranty for our education and entertainment 😂😂
Looks like the main upgrade here is in the difficulty of disassembly and repair.
Now, it's even harder to take apart and repair. What a joke!