Forced Marriage Cops (Crime Documentary) | Real Stories
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2016
- A powerful film showing the true plight of victims forced into marriage. With unprecedented access to the Manchester Police Force, this documentary investigates the biggest cases of forced marriage in the UK. In June 2014 it became illegal for someone to force a person to get married, the problem is how difficult this is to police to track and investigate these cases.
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"...He's chasing her with a hammer?" "Yes."
"How do you know it's his daughter?" Does it fucking matter? He's chasing her with a *hammer*
Kanooodle omg thats what I was thinking too😂🙄🙄
I thought the exact same thing!!!
I thought she was just trying to get as much info about the situation as possible. They want to know what situation they are entering when they arrive
lol I laughed at your comment.
Just to clarify as someone experienced by dispatch: Police is already underway.
They type more info for later investigation and try to keep the caller on the phone in case things happens.
In the end the called had already dispatched - the second such call comes in so does the address.
That is why the police never are dispatched AFTER the call - they are on their way lol but your comment was funny
翔央やぶ it's not really funny
For a Muslim girl to go to the police to report her family ... it’s deep ... believe what she says... it took a lot of courage
Yep the whole community will turn against you.
I can’t imagine the stress. Proud of them for speaking up. They hold more power to change their community than they know.
Agreed. It is so sad! This is against Islam! You can’t force ur children to marry someone they don’t want to marry! I’m so thankful for my muslim parents. ❤️ they followed Islam and I married whom I wanted to without any problems
Do not bring Islam into this. This happens purely due to cultural or economic reasons.
asma latif all she said was that Islam is against this. That forced marriage isnt a religious thing that’s literally all she said because people automatically blame the religion and everything not the sick ppl who sell their children off.
The dad in the beginning at the police station says he told his daughter "I will not beat you this time", why don't they ask questions about that?
My thoughts exactly
Yes why didn't the police interviewer leap on that.....?
My thoughts exactly !!!
Yes then he said you can hit your son or your wife!!???
Useless Police👮work; not listening, not paying proper attention. Just trapping the father on that one could have changed the whole timbre of the interview.
When I was 15 there was a family in Bangladesh that desperately wanted me to marry their eldest son who was 12 years older than me coz they wanted me to bring him to london. They wore harassing my parents to take me to Bangladesh and get me married. Nobody asked me if I wanted to get married and I never even met him. 6 months before the wedding I ran away
WELL DONE NOBODY HAS CONTROL OVER YOUR LIFE EXCEPT YOURSELF !!!!!!
Well done, you did the right thing
That's awful I hope you are OK now
I hope you are okay as you have now been cut of from your family , I honestly hope you get the support you need . Bless you 🙏🙏🙏
So proud of you 🙏🏼 I hope you have a beautiful life filled with love and happiness and joy ❤❤
"You can hit your wife", but not your daughter? All wives are someones daughter.
EXACTLY, but only realized in the minds of the intelligent.
I caught that too. In the US it would be an admission you beat your daughter
in Muslim society its allowed to hit wife its written in quran ........ nothing to surprise.... its the most peaceful book written ever {;
the prophet never hit his wives or daughters
Reason u cant hit anyone ever
They talk about respect but don’t respect their daughters.
They're big on DEMANDING respect, yet incapable of giving it to anyone who doesn't tow their brainwashed line...
they dont want their daughters educated or mixing with other kids because knowledge is power for the girls.it will take time but the cracks are appearing.
they don't respect women period evil 🐷
The men that are like this within this culture dont respect women in general.
Eva, by demanding they *toe the line and threatening them is exactly how they enforce the “respect” ideals.
Arranged/forced marriage should be classified as human trafficking. What's the difference between a pimp or trafficker selling a human being in exchange for money or property?
Arranged marriage, however unusual in our culture, is not immoral in itself. As long as both parties participate voluntarily, are given a chance to "meet their match" and potentially refuse the union, it's not illegal.
Problems start, when marriages are arranged without consent, through duplicity or sheer force. And especially, when young people are forced to travel abroad to get married there under a different law, which might severely limit their rights within the marriage and their options to leave.
Roxanna is such a level headed girl, she’s heart broken that her family have disowned her but knows that she’s better off away from them. I really hope she’s doing well in life .
Men in these types of cultures have way too much power.
Make Britain Free. No more Nanny State nine times out of ten when power is given to one group over another it is abused.
WHAT? Yes it is. Unless he is an employer, and even than he is only there to train people to do their jobs and observe how they are doing it, NOT to control any other aspect of their lives.
Yes in the South Asian culture, especially if she’s not legal.
There blind folded men but rather be a buncha boys
@@00ooooo216 womens liberation hasnt caused enough problems for the West. And yes there s something wrong with having power over women. Men and women should have equal power not one over the other. Can we say Neanderthal man!
Forced marriages should be illegal everywhere. Neither women nor men should be forced to be married against their will simply because their families want it, no matter the reason.
Um no let me tell u something I well seriously hurt some trying hurt my kid rapping them by my own family our some else
So the state should decide who marries whom?
This is about violence against WOMEN
Plz dont trivialize this by implying that this happens to men too
@@aseriesoftriangleswecalltr6065 not the state but the individual themselves
I wish the USA would ban this kind of stuff because some EVANGELICALS have done this.
Can we talk about how brave and amazing Sajidaa is for leaving her husband and protecting her children? The amount of courage that needs in any culture is a lot. In this sort of a culture it seems almost impossible. I hope her and her children have a good life and future
If this happens in England, I wonder how many girls are suffering from all this, in Pakistan. ☹️
" this kids always had this dream that he'll come from Pakistan to England to have a better life, but it's never gunna happen cuz I'm never gunna marry him!" lol yes!! gurl!
+Burgundy Peeple It's not about "dashing this young man's dreams". He can try any other legal way to achieve his dream that doesn't involve unhappiness of another person! Don't you think you should work on achieving your dream yourself rather than relying on somebody else to solve it or even worse achieving it at the price of the misery of another person?
rb5286 Your mom should be deported
rb5286 and your dad should be deported too. #idiot
@rb5286 You should be deported while we're at it
@rb5286 your braincells have been deported.
Roxanna is such an honourable, self strong, independent woman. Her parents should be proud of the young woman they have raised instead of passing her off to be another man's property.
triggered
She will be when she takes that costume off...
Mz. Tingley excuse me that is so rude she can wear what she wants and trying to make her take it off is oppressing her pls have some respect
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That 'costume' is her decision to wear. Not yours. Perhaps she's wearing it for the documentary, so people cannot see her face. Or, she wants to!
On another note, your narrow minded opinion about a woman's freedom, is based upon her dress sense.
For example, some people will say, a woman in clubbing gear, is asking for a sexual assault!
How utterly ridiculous you are!
Go and re-think your silly notions about a 'costume.'
her name is ruqsana
If these people want to come and live in England they have to abide by the laws. I know they are probably pissed that the government is meddling in their affairs but I’m so glad that there are laws and people working to prevent this cruelty.
I think they should all go back. Leave europe. Because we dont understand them, they dont want to be a part of our society & we cannot comprehend honor killings & forced marriages. They should all just go back to the places where people think like them.
More people should speak up against this behaviour. Send them back if they can't adapt.
Lock them up
They should be deported if they try to establish a parallel society.
😅😅😅😅....we dont want them here at all!!!!!!!!!!!!
"You can beat wives but not daughters" and somehow he thinks he is okay to say this inside a police station 🤡🤡🤡
Well it clearly is ok because the interviewing officer didn’t even follow it up! There’s the real clown!
@@sammillar3561 Absolutely!! I watched the video again for a research I am doing and wow these officers' handling of the case is at least negligent, it really disgusts me!! Many girls are being failed
@@dimitrapsycharicohen6121 The true criminals who should be brought to justice are those that allowed people of this culture to set up home in the UK.
Can we talk about how amazing these police officers are. They have a empathetic order about them. Nothing like that here in the US.
the police there have worked hard on this. i think not carry guns leads to more mental and emotional techniques in policing
They do are amazing and do a great job. I love the way they interact with everyone on this video.
amazing
I agree, I'm American and love my country but our law enforcement always seems to go straight to intimidation, aggression and force. Yes, it's definitely required in some instances. I do feel they need better sensitivity training in dealing with citizens. However, I have watched plenty of videos where the police in the UK handled suspects rough and disrespectful. It doesn't really make sense to compare street cops handling gang violence, drug crimes etc. and officers investigating complicated domestic situations. It's pretty much oranges to apples.
Yahzmine Rodriguez I agree. The majority of the police in the U.K. Don't carry arms and they're still able to get the job done.
"You can hit your wife, you can hit your son, but not your daughter."
What -
But you can threaten to kill her to force her to comply with her forced marriage... It's religious based thought don't expect much in the way of logic.
But they openly and willingly murder their daughters for “honor”
A wife is someone else's daughter too
"I was just shouting to her this time" ..he managed to make a point
Yeah. Wtf. The cops did point out you can’t hit anyone.
These situations are the most frustrating when the victims don’t call out their parents, especially their abusive fathers. As a person who was brutally injured by my dad, I can tell you that you have to punish them otherwise your siblings and the future generations will suffer similar fates. It’s tough but please try to do the right thing and stay resilient
The thing is, is that it’s not that easy, it’s not a child’s job to punish their parents, teach them that what they’re doing is wrong, in law and especially religious law that it’s extremely wrong, culture likes to twist things to its advantage so these people have been raised to think it’s okay when it isn’t. The kids don’t want their parents put behind bars or whatever bc they’ll have nobody if they do, they sacrifice a lot and they don’t want to make it worse
I’m nearly 40 years old, not for a second of my life have I been as brave as these girls.
He admits hitting his wife, states he hits his son and then says he told her he wasn't hitting her" this time".. It is a culture thing but he needs to understand A) he chose to live in a country where this is illegal, B) he chose to raise his children in a country where this is not acceptable, C) beating another person is illegal AND morally wrong , D) love is not abuse, E) would he enjoy being abused? Hit? Forced to do something against his will ?.
beating up your kids and wife is having no respect for the islam witch a lot dont even no what it realyis they all say a different story pretending too be proud people is thatproud beating up your wife and kids and kill its a cowerd mind and soul in many lands its law no beating not even strange people no son daughter woman man dont hit woman woman dont hit man etc and nothing too do with wat kind of religion dont like the law go back too your ownmiddle aged wat ever
Tbh he probably was and now is repeating the cycle with his own family, so sad. No excuse though, he needs to be an adult now.
The culture is Islam, Pakistani Christians are not like this are they!
@Clive Baxter yes they are in some parts of the world. It's also a common cultural practice amongst some Jewish peoples, Hindus, Sikhs etc.
I don't like Islam - don't like any religion - but it really isn't only an Islamic thing.
@@clivebaxter6354 you idiot, Islam isn’t a culture and it actually states that unless both parties who are getting married fully agree wholeheartedly the marriage is invalid. It is a major sin to force people to get married. Forced marriage is accepted by some horrendous cultures by horrendous people not by flipin religon
I think the worst part for me is the mother's role in all of this. They've been through the same fear, beatings, lack of freedom, and forced impregnation from being married off, so how could they force their daughters to go through that? Kudos to the lady at 41:50 I'm glad she decided to protect her children
RiyaMMX: I think the mothers being in the same situation themselves makes it pretty hard for them to do much. They've been enslaved most of their lives and don't have experience with being able to choose where their lives go. How can they help their daughters with something they know nothing about?
RiyaMMX actually in most forced marriages and honour killings in the West, the mothers are the main perpetrators and the fathers secretly try to keep in touch with daughters if they escaped
sources on this? i live in this culture, and its the opposite.
Fear
Candy Gobbler
No, it's pretty equal between mothers and fathers. Fathers aren't magically more progressive than mothers. They're both from the same culture. And men have too much power in Islamic cultures like this so it's unlikely the mother gets much of a choice in what happens
❤❤ these poor girls , I was abused by my family and husband and I am from the gypsy community- I had to move to another part of the country with my 3 children ❤️
Forced Marriage = Trafficking your own children.
These "parents" are awful people.
My incubator did the same thing to me. Fast forward 30 years and she can't seem to figure out why I want nothing to do with her. The narcissist is always the perpetual victim. While the survivor knows better. 😑
The US could sure use a force like this.
When you see a house with locks on the internal doors you will find a controlling lunatic.
Or a grow room 🤷♂️
What..Makes no sense.
im soo glad this has now been taken seriously by the law, i remember years ago at school muslim friends as young as 13 being taken on a sudden vacation and never returning back, later hearing they had been married off, usually to older relatives they didnt know, this practice needs to be stamped out there is no place for it in the UK
or circumcised THEN married
Olympia197 it should not couse these are inbreeds that's it ok for her to get merried with pakistani if she is pakistani by herself but rather not with family members thats crazy , british are merrying british japanese with japanese ,,
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This also happened to me I am not from UK I am from Pakistan .Past year my father(who always tormented me and treated me as a liability) forced me (basically I was physically abused, beaten up )I had no choice but to obey his order although its legally a crime and this marriage is invalid in islam but he is a Muslim of convience .I got married with a heavy heart but his choice my ex husband was also very abusive and had immoral affairs .I prayed to Allah and he gave me strength to walk away and escape from that abusive marriage and I am now divorced and trying to make my life better.I am just 22 and went through the trauma . This is a big problem in Pakistan every other marriage is either emotionally and physically forced upon young generation by elders mostly fathers and sadly this regressive mentality British Pakistanis take with them into liberal societies .
I'm so sorry but glad you got out
I am praying for you to continue your road to recovery and self love.❤
Pretty sure Allah is the issue and not the solution
@@cobidbeksin5200 don't be hateful and ignorant
@Cobidbeksin islam literally forbids forced marriages, so it IS the answer lol, but many countries don't want to apply sharia so they end up dealing with the problems themeselves
I had a friend who had an arranged marriage since he was 4 and she was 3. He said that growing up being told this will be your wife was weird. Every time they would meat and hang out, they both felt like they had to get along because they had to spend all there lives together. They never really liked each other, but they didn't hate each other. To them that was enough. When he left home the marriage was called off. He never dated any other girl, he said it'd feel like he was cheating. So he was kind of lost when it came to dating, he hadn't even thought of it before.
Hope he found another woman
I'm so impressed with the U.K. Forced marriage unit.
@Dis Broad Allowing the "immigrants"(loosely say immigrants because some of these countries were ruled aka stolen by the british empire (and were viewed as british) some are still part of the common wealth) so its the LEAST the UK can do, considered what this country has historically done to their countries.
@@DoraWinifred they should be glad they were ruled by Britain and not by Belgium
Look back in history...we once ran on arranged marriages....
@@DoraWinifred No living person in England colonized/occupied another country. They are not responsible for their ancestors' actions.
Thousands of girls raped and tortured in UK, nothing to be proud about
it's funny how the arrested parents suddenly can't speak English..
What do you mean it was understandable english
Same MO in the US, when people fro other countries get areested they claim "no English" even after living here for decades
They want Western Money , but not the Laws that go with it . LOL!!
@Scott Lawson ...What did the West Steal ? Please enlighten me .
@Scott Lawson ...From what I see from the liks you sent me , not much was "Stolen " besides Various Trinkets . The British have largely returned items taken from India. Also, the British built much of the Infrastructure in India where there was NONE . Highways , Railroads etc. SUre much of the Lanour used was Indian, but the British used plenty of their own resources .
Tell me . The British turned the reins over to India in 1947 , yet after 70 years of self rule , India still remains an Imoverished drveloping Nation. Look at Germany and Japan . They were devesated and lay in ruins after WW2, and yet surpassed India by the Early 60s. India has a much larger advantage than a Germany. Geoghraphically , and by Size .
I was born in India , but raised in the West, and I can tell you that it is the Indian mindset that has prevented India from becoming a First World Developed Nation with a Robyst Economy. Ramapnt Corruption and Fraud , lack of Empathy or compassion is the Indian mindset .
That saddest thing I ever saw growing up in the 80s was a family friend daughter that was a successful lawyer being forced arranged marriage, he was only daughter and sister to 8 brothers.her life became dark and dim she had 7 children with a man that was horrible wasn't good too her but it was all sake of honor heartbreaking to see her walk the streets with mental health issues as bad as they had to section her many times. This was a beautiful intelligent lawyer that had no voice against her family
Wow. That’s sad.
Just wickedness
I hope she is better now and managed to get out the marriage. That sounds awful
may allah set give her shifa
Here in Canada the police press charges. You cannot withdraw domestic abuse charges.
I am a male victim of this crime but us males are not highlighted.
My life was ruined; I was 17 in 1994 when they pretended to take me on a holiday to Pakistan; once there they took away my passport and said to me "you ain't returning until you marry this thing and get her pregnant" . I was in a remote village without money or means of contact. The police ignored me there. I was used as a bridge by my parents and dad's sister to help her daughter to climb in the UK over my happiness. Can you put someone else's happiness over your sons happiness. If I could, I would love for her British citizenship to be revoked and see her returned to Pakistan and banned from coming to the UK. I hate her with passion.
The funny things is this documentary totally ignored that it happens to young men. Probably not as much, but it does happen.
I am a successful and happy man but this haunts me at times and humiliates me to my core.
@sbalaji2019 yes unfortunately, she got to be stay for now.
Wow, that is true. I have heard and counseled young Asian-Indian men born and raised here (USA) who faced same dilemma. BUT don't hate the girl, she is as much a victim as you are. She must have been brain-washed from young age about marrying you so she is probably hurt and confused why you rejecting her. Have you consummated your marriage yet?
Is it your Dad's sister you hate, or your wife? Sorry, I just didn't catch she the "she" was.
I’m so sorry that happened to you. It is your family who should feel humiliation and shame. Not you.
@rocky nope it isnt I agree with sonia
The sad reality is that forced marriage is still happening all around the world with no voice to speak for them...
When confronted with it people would be sympathetic, but out of sight out of mind.
I worked in a prison. We had a very sad situation. A young man, just over 21 came into the jail for murdering his sister. She had refused marriage. He was the youngest son. He had be coerced by the family to kill her. He was the youngest, most expendable member of the family. He was just as much a victim as his sister. He just said as we put him in the cell. "It is the way it is." It was so sad that he had been sacrificed too for some spurious idea of honour.
He knew right from wrong. Don't feel sorry for him
@@connievida4089 According to the culture he came from, he was doing the right thing He was restoring family honour, a concept more important than his or the girl's lives. It possible that had he not done killed her, the family would kill him too. Its shocking but true that he had littlel choice according to the moral code of that family.
@@belibre3067 Not now no. There will be court papers
It was in the national new at the time.
Sad.
It’s crazy isn’t it they do things out of shame like killing your child and having another sent to jail isn’t the biggest shame they should feel
Backwards thinking people, conditioned to think that shame is saying No 🤦🏽♀️
I feel so lucky, that my parents were more enlightened, I am of Eastern decent, born in Trinidad, to Eastern Indian family. My parents love us thier children, could never put us in danger, and we allowed us to make our own decisions of whom too marry. All they wanted is for us, to be happy, and enjoy a happy life. Mommy and Papy thank you much.
And that is the fundamental difference between parents: parents who see their children like pieces of their own heart and parents who see their children like a tradeable commodity. Shame on the latter!
In the words of Philip defranco, if they're gonna implement this outdated ideas, they should be forced to live in the same conditions as those in the past who believed this was normal.
phil is smart
phil is was one with great words
lillmango , agree 100%! THANK YOU- nicely said!!!
Yes, my thoughts exactly.
The parents only..not the girls
Rukshana is such a brave woman. The thought of being cut off from everything and everyone you know must’ve been so scary for her and yet she found the courage to leave. Her courage is so admirable.
She is and has a boyfriend to support her.
stunning and brave, going right back to her family. hopefully she is still alive
The man said “I can never hit my daughter. You can hit your wife and sons, but not the daughter…” and the he told the police about the incident with his daughter: “I told her I don’t hit you THIS time” which clearly indicates that he has hit her before and most likely hit her also during this incident….
"He's not gonna come as I won't marry him." 😂😂😂😂
I am so overtaken by Roxanna- what an incredibly strong woman with such a big heart. All these girls are incredible!
Jess Mays it would be spelt Rukshana
A strong woman who chooses to wear a mask! The things that pass for strength these days in the eyes of feminists!
+TruthBeTold consider she might just not want to be known to the public or identified by her family out and about.
+Megan Engels
Since I'm not a self-deluding moron, I'd refuse to consider such a ridiculous and remote assumption when the obvious suggests otherwise. Thanks though!
+TruthBeTold it's not that remote. it's probably a safer option in her surroundings and It isn't like people living in fear don't make themselves anonymous on many programs.
As someone with a lot of Muslim friends, there were many girls I knew that would tell me about how their parents would threaten them with forced marriages if they didn't do well in school or were hanging out with boys. My friend Nasima was really quiet and secluded. She was part of my circle of friends and wore the most religious clothing out of my Muslim friends. She attended my high school for three years before she just disappeared. None of my friends knew where she wentand she never spoke about her home life so I never expected this to happen. I still wonder today whether she was forced into marriage or if she just moved. These documentaries about forced marriages have really made me reflect on what happened back then and I'm only seeing now just how radically different western and eastern cultures are. I hope the girls in the documentary stay safe and I hope the same for Nasima.
OfftoShambala stop spreading your bukkshit assumptions
My friend from Afghanistan was force into marriage when she was 15 . Her Iman married them she was still going to high school and nobody knew. These people are sick!!
same happened to my friend.
SDD41 there are many bride killings, a lot of rape culture and disregard for females in Hindi culture. I know, having had Hindi friends and working companions. One young woman was badly mistreated by her in-laws and husband and had to flee from them without letting us know. I was her boss. She left me a message and I totally understood. Later, she contacted me and I was so glad to see she had a happy and much better life. Right here in the US. And 2 boys who worked for me had arranged marriages. I doubt they worked well, as they grew up watching their dad physically and emotionally abuse their mom. Both mom and dad worked for us, and I wish I could have beat him senseless. But, I was a 4’10” female in my 50’s, so no go. This crap makes me so angry.
This has got nothing to do with being Muslim and Islam, but everything to do with culture. Forced marriages are strictly prohibited in Islam but people choose to follow what they wish and this is the sad part.
This girl must be admired for her courage. She has put everything she got to come here.
"We can hit our wives and sons but not our daughters". Truly unimaginable. That level of accepted violence is a horrible way to live.
I'll never understand why any culture gives males this permission and sometimes even encouragement. 😢😡
Verse 4:34 of the Koran says that if a wife does not obey her husband, it is ok for him to beat her. The Koran makes women property. Islam is misogynistic.
When it was my time for marriage I found my own wife and got married and still married 25 yrs later and very happy , she’s not Muslim and I never forced her to become Muslim , she’s educated and very respectable lady and she respects my beliefs where as I respect her beliefs. Marry who you want to marry , it’s you two who will spend the time together and just be happy life is too short for anything else .
Islamically your marriage isn't valid.
@@majg9141 who cares for god sake stop being judgemental unlike whats going on with your people islamically unacceptable focus on that
Maj G by law it is and that’s far more important
Maj G actually He is islamically permitted to marry a non muslim
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Only Ahl Alkitab
It's always the women who are at the receiving end of such medieval ideas.
Rutta Negga men are also forced into marriages just as much as woman but they are greatly unreported
@@skylandersgiants5504 Very true. It does go both ways. One would think that it would be less dangerous for a guy to refuse a marriage though as it would not seem as if they were damaging their families honour. Not sure what they think about this though.
@@skylandersgiants5504 The difference is, the men are allowed to take their anger out on their wives, if they are forced to marry a woman they do not desire to. The women suffer the abuse, slavery, violence and worst parts of the deal.
It goes both ways trust me.
It's not
I can't imagine how torn and brave these girls are. Fully believing in your religion, living your whole life believing in your customs, believing in your family, but still being brave enough to try and get away. All at a very young age. I applaud these girls, and the officer's dedication to helping them. It's not like a normal cop job, arresting drunks or normal stuff like that. They have to truly connect with the victims and see through the family ties and subtle intricacies of culture and secrets, so they can help these girls. I don't know how anyone can care more about customs than their own children, and view them as objects to do with as you please including hurt them. It's heartbreaking. I'm so glad these girls have someone to turn to.
“You can hit your wife. You can hit your son.” That tells a lot what kind of person is! A monster!!
If you marry your first cousin and your parents were first cousins and your grandparents were first cousins and your husband also came from a long line of first cousins your offspring are at a much greater risk of serious birth defects. The rate of serious birth defects in the U.k. Among Pakistani community is enormous.
Well it explains a lot🤷🏽♀️. Yuck af
And it costs the NHS and taxpayers a lot of money for their care.
Bradford in West Yorkshire is the worst.
Sorry darling, but he should go to jail. He is a monster.
There is a documentary on this same channel about it. It's actually shocking that this day in age people don't realize this. The documentary highlighted a family with 5 children, 4 of them have horrible birth defects and health issues, none of them can function normally or care for themselves. It's incredibly sad.
Manchester's cops you are doing an excellent great job helping those in forced marriages. and also great job to the campaign to say no to forced marriages of Jasvinder Sanghera...God bless you all to the success of you all...
now if you could do the Rotterham rape gangs too
@@dennisdragomir7572 right but they won't.
Doesn’t do well with domestic abuse
“Has it ever struck you that life is all memory, except for the one present moment that goes by you so quick you hardly catch it going?”― Tennessee Williams...
I married someone who my father.hated. But my mother, who was very wise, told him that supporting me when we disagreed was more important than his dislike of my husband. It turned, out many years, later that my Dad was right but because he helped me then, I knew that I could depend on him always! I am so thankful that I had great parents
incest should be made illegal for the sake of the unborn child, fucking revolting!
Uce Jr Gong It happens far more often and is a way bigger part of english culture than American. Like only in England would there even be a law for forced marriage. No American man would be dumb enough to threaten a chick to spend her entire life with us.
No, it's more prevelant in the USA, with all the Mormons and religions built to marry cousins. Britain just has a massive South Asian population. It doesn't take Charles Darwin to work out that this is a South Asian issue.
Please note that mainstream Mormon's, that is members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints are not in the habit of marrying their cousins..that may happen with the Fundamentalist Mormons..or as they better known as FLDS..this is a break-away group that have nothing to do with the mainstream Mormons..
i think your kabob is in the wrong places
In Canada, it's legal to marry your first cousin. You share 12.5% of your genes with your first cousin and I guess that's enough genetic variation not to have deformities in the offspring.
That's what these men don't realize: it's their fault if they don't have a boy because it's really the father that decides the gender of a baby.
They Think that its only woman desision.
I disagree on it his or the woman fault on what gender is the baby. No one can control what nature prepares for us. The kid is ether a boy or a girl. No one whows what child they get or the world would be a perfect place and i know the world isnt perfect dut to wars and natural disater that comes out way. So when it comes to blaming on what kind of child they have it not really a good idea. If you want blam then blame it on the nature of life. I am a girl but i could have been a boy, no one know how they were born beside out of the spern and ovum put together to make a human being. Just like you or the victum or the parents. Check out those who wish to be girls when they are boys or those who wish to be boys when they are girls. Gender rolls can determen how we are born nor does wishing for a certian gender determan what baby comes out of the womb.
@@rachelwhitaker5244 genetic and disorders that's how its calls
@@viktuutee thanks. I like that I am a girl but i what i mean is we cant choose the body we have nor can the parent cant choose their child unless they adopt a child. In this stage this family didnt gwt to choose what kind of kid the bore. They have the choice to abadon, kill or even keep the child but they can say hey i am going to make this child a boy or hey i am going to make this kid a girl. That all by the work of the body. Not even our parent control if we are a boy or a girl. Just look at it in both perspective. If it was my child i wouldnt know if it was a girl or a boy. The father blaming the mother for having girls instead of boys is sexist, complaining but he cant force her and then have a son. That would be impossible. Its always a 50 50 chance of getting one or the other. Look at bioligy of how a woman body work.
@@viktuutee and no one can prodict what the body gives put. If they can then they qre aliens from another world or just odd people that no one should get close to such as prophets.
As a teenager I didn want that burden on me. It was just me against so many of them. I felt that to my core. I was Bethroted at age 9 then forced to marry at 18 right out of high school. I’m female!
I'm so sorry. Are you still married? There are charities that help forced married victims. Also Ngo's. Please get help.
Do you work and have savings? Is there anywhere you can go too?
I'm so sorry this happened to you.
When the investigator said that Roxanna’s boyfriend would not comment on the abuse by her father I feel like he is scared of him as well. Her boyfriend might feel like he’d be in danger if he testified. I feel so bad for both of them, under the control of someone who doesn’t deserve that kind of power.
Someone has to start standing up and having a voice. If everyone huddles and looks away you are just condoning this vile, barbaric behaviour. Women have the right to vote. Do something with your voice. Use it!!;
This is so sad. Here we are in the year 2017, and so many men are still acting like spoiled little brats, treating their wives and daughters like possessions.
Andrew Costello Islam ordains it forever
@@lizaj3339 no it doesn't
Jennifer Alexander BOI Islam forbids it
2018 now
@@maryme841 2019 now
"I won't beat you this time, I'll just tell you..."
sach196 I caught that too.
missed that, what's the timestamp?
Yes Camille Lucinda. At that point the police officer or whoever should have made it Very Clear that it is NOT permissible to hit anyone. Not your sons. Not your wives. Not your daughters or grandchildren, not ANYONE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Possibly some do not even realize that this is a criminal offense? I thought this was made clear when people immigrated?
Am talking about at 7:10. The female questioning him states "okay" several times as if she is agreeing that it's okay to hit sons and wives. There is a very weak attempt to tell someone else to tell him this is not okay, but it is not picked up on Closed Captions and is very much glossed over. The man states that it is a weakness not to be able to hit your daughter or grandchild !!!!!!!!
any father who dare to threaten their kids with death don't deserve sympathy.
*parent
Watching this I can't help thinking of young me at 14, had to leave home suddenly one morning, after a night I thought I wouldn't survive an outburst of my "father", and my mom and me ran away and found a shelter. Didn't even have time to process, my room my pets my home and all stuff and photos, everything I knew, all left behind. I'm 44 now, seems time just doesn't always heal everything. Family...
I'm sorry you had to go through that. Might have saved your lives though.
Why you blur their faces? They don't deserve no respect, they should be treated the way they treat other people especially women.
Ik I'm 2 years late but I believe it's a legal issue
@@flareknuckles and I'm even later! You're right. But that's really part of the problem. Our laws don't always protect where it's most needed.
This reminds me of when I was in highschool. There was a girl in my science class that was from the middle east.
She migrated with her family years beforehand. We had a new male student who had only been in the states for about three months.
One day he stood up in the middle of class and pointed at the girl yelling at her in his native language. We were all wind eyed and confused. Then he threw a rolled up paper at her and yelled "COVER YOURSELF! YOU SHAME!" My teacher briskly walked over to him and smacked him with her teaching binder. Yelling back at him "You're not at home! She can have her hair like that if she wants. Sit down and shut up before I make you!" Apparently she spoke the language. XD Coolest teacher I've ever had.
-I want to add I'm from a CA town that had a lot of immigrants from the middle east & west asia and that is the only time I've witnessed wild or rude behavior.
I don't know which city in CA but it's the best tale I've heard and needless to say CA is no longer what this state used to be.
Wow your teacher seems so cool. I really hope that she didn’t get in trouble because I would have done the same.
Yeah this story definitely happened.
Yessss
and here we 3 years later and if this happened now, the teacher would be forcibly removed from the school premises by authorities in the middle of a class at gun point (with media being tipped off and waiting outside with cameras), fired, pension terminated, prosecuted and jailed for hate speech, racism, child endangerment, assuming gender pronouns, et el...then deported after serving out their sentence (if applicable)
Was I the only one who had a problem with the way the (Asian, I'm assuming) police officer spoke with her? His main concern is seemingly that she'll be alone, not that she'll lose her life if she goes home. That's so sad that there was not one word of commemorance on his end for making that decision despite being alone. I know because I also had to leave my family like that for similar reasons. Good for her, having that weight off your shoulders and not having to walk on eggshells anymore... Having your first taste of real freedom is indescribable.
I was married to a man who've I had a 5 min conversation with and that was it. Meeting him, engagement, and wedding all in 3 weeks. My father called it "an arranged marriage" But my father had to pick and approve. I was a teenager, very abusive for 11 years.
I'm sorry for what happened to you? Are you still in that marriage?
“It’s never gonna happen, cause I’m not marrying him” YES GIRL STAND YO GROUND
Once you get married to someone that you don't want to its like you were forced to sell your soul.
It looked like your husband messed up your face...yet you are so brave to stand up to him. You divorced him and got protection ...good deed lady. Good deed!
Loved that the first sentence was that it’s a cultural, not a religious thing. In Islam it’s actually forbidden to force someone into a marriage they haven’t agreed to, in that case that marriage would technically be religiously invalid
What kind of culture is that? Besides of course it is practised in muslim families and they regard it as good islamic tradition.
@@ursulastaempfli759 it is sadly spread in Muslim cultures, but the quran and the word of prophet Muhammad show us clearly that both parties have to agree to the marriage. And that trumps any kind of cultural spread
I have never hit my daughter.... ('' and i told her, listen, i won't hit you this time'') -.-
Yep. I got that too. What exactly does 'this time' mean????
I noticed that too. I am no cop but obviously he is saying he has hit her in the past.
Haha I thought the same. What a tool
He did mean to tell it to the police as a threat for the next time, as proof that even if he threatened, he didn't mean to hit at this occasion. I'm 100% sure that he did hit her before and probably hit her again, but I think that's what he meant, stupidly.
Appalling that a man's and other family members' sense of honour is totally dependent on their daughters' and sisters' submission to their wills, so they can be raped by strangers. And that that "honour" is above all natural protection of these girls and young women; better to threaten, abuse and even murder their children rather than let them be free to decide for themselves and "shame" the family. There is nothing honourable whatsoever in this mindset. This is evil abuse. Sick.
With me it was the other way around. I’m a British Bangladeshi female. My cousin who was living in the U.K. illegally, (my dads nephew) wanted me to marry him so that he can come to the U.K. and live a better life.
His entire family in Bangladesh had threatened my parents, saying that if I don’t marry him, they will do voodoo (black magic), on my parents and on me. They use to blackmail my parents because they wanted me to marry their son so he can get a British passport.
My parents DID NOT want me marrying him at all. They are against cousin marriage.
Anyways, he was living illegally in the U.K. for years. The fact that he was sleeping in our living room, that was dangerous as well as I’m a young woman and don’t have a lock on my bedroom door.
When I was 17, he knew that I wouldn’t marry him. After college, we bumped into each other in the train station.
We just went for a walk until he forcefully touched me. I didn’t tell anybody. He was illegal and my parents didn’t want him to be deported.
After a week, I just told my parents what he did. When my mom confronted him, he started crying and denied it.
A few weeks later, him and his friends moved to Spain. They hid behind a lorry to cross the border.
He’s now living in Spain with other guys and has a better life there.
My family had to spend upto £8,000 to get him settled with his visa etc. Some of the money was the child benefit that my parents received.
This makes me more angry, the fact that he decided to touch me up because he knew I wouldn’t marry him and that my parents spent all that money on him because he’s “family”, really annoys me.
Glad to see change. Glad to see these girls now have options.
There is not a single honorable thing about any of this!!!
I hurt for these girls.
The "honor" thing is just the excuse for murder.
Connie just my life this type of " honour" is great for plant food, vegetable patches and trees.
How about honor in honor killings?
The Laws of Western Nations will have to continue to Change to accommodate the people coming in from places such as India and Pakistan . These two Nations have a combined Population of 1.6 BILLION People , from which 85 Percent want to Immigrate to a Western Anglo Saxon Developed Country . Tragic , because both India and Pakistan are Beautiful Countries Geographically. They Just can not seem to be able to Govern themselves .
We need these laws in the US.
totally agree. Never seen this happen first hand but I'm fucking glad my bf has parents who aren't like this
Yes it does, just not as much.
Keep telling yourself it doesn't happen in the US.
I am surprised anyone thinks that it doesn't happen here in the US. Just search RUclips or Google for "forced marriage" or "honor killing" and you will see that it is horrifyingly pandemic, mainly because it is more about religion than region.
Kind of how the European immigrants brought their religion and culture to North America and not only kept it but pushed it, by force, on the native population.
Rixanna you are a very brave, eloquently spoken young lady. I’m glad you found the strength to speak out. I wish you nothing but the best and be proud of yourself. I know it couldn’t of been easy to do what you did. Bless you. ❤️🙏🏾
I am so happy for these girls that are allowed to have a voice . Makes me feel hope for them . Thank you to these great people that are helping them .
I'm of an Afghan background and I've heard stories like this one too many times. I don't understand why as parents you would move half way across the world for a better life for you and your family... but retain your backward mindset and what's worse, drill backward beliefs such as forced marriage into your children's heads too. I understand why this shit goes on back home in Pakistan for example. You're surrounded by your family, you live in the same unit and are physically bound by your culture. It doesn't make it anymore okay but it makes it easier to comprehend. However the whole point of coming to the UK is to move forward, give your children, the future generation, a chance at education and success. It's beyond me why you would pull them back into the god damn dark ages and chain them there? It's appalling, cruel and what's worse is that these people, they think that what they're doing makes them better Muslims. It shouldn't come as a surprise that forced marriage is sinful in Islam and in actual fact, is illegitimate. Any sexual activity that occurs during the 'marriage' is seen as fornication. So instead of strengthening your faith lol you've actually bought yourself a ticket to hell. Rightly so.
Fatima Naimi on point 👌👌 these people and this whole forced marriage thing goes completely against Islam. So does the so called "honor killings" and the likes. This is Pakistani/south asian culture. Not Islam.
Fatima Naimi well said ! I couldn't agree more
@Dark Horse Before you open your mouth fool go back a few centuries in history. Islamic rule in India ravaged pillaged and put Indians in bondage. Many of the dark practicies you see in India today was introduced by the Mogul rulers then the British bastards. India was a well-advanced society during Ashoka, Gupta, and other dynasties. You can gleen some knowledge from here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_India (altough not 100percent accurate it gives pretty good idea how advanced the Indian civilization was until INVADERS came to that country and bastardized everything.
Sonia G and now the Indians value the life of the cow above the life of human being.
B S why are you making up bukkshit.you know your self that this is not true but lies fabricated by your Zionist masters to discredit Islam same way they have destroyed Christianity in the west
Even though I’m a British Indian girl I’m thankful that I haven’t been forced to be married. I think those parents that force their kids to get married are stupid.
@@joeblowe7446 India isn't barbaric. Ffs, I have been raised in india and I am more open minded than the so called liberated NRIs . The system of arranged marriage isn't forced, atleast in my parent's case who dated for 10 months before they felt that they were ready. Its honestly more like a dating system than anything
@@mmmmyeah1849 yeah india isn't barbaric, right. Stop that. People are killed their if they marry lower caste of society. So many forced marriages. Muslims are killed. Don't be ignorant. It's disrespectful to all the victims.
@@petrabonnie lol I wrote that 11 months ago. I have grown since then so no need to get aggressive now
Sadly , the female giving evidence of her own ordeal in forced marriage (she has a blemish on the RHS of her face) , is - visibly - ‘ damaged goods ‘. One can see the permanent pain in her eyes. She has the courage to come forward to tell her story to assist others of her own race. This is greatly to her credit.
Heartbroken for these women, I just can't imagine the fear, and sadness 😢
If the families want to practice their way of life over here in the U.K. They have to be told that this is not allowed and if they continue to do it then they should be returned to their country and never allowed entry into the UK 🇬🇧 ever again!
Right!
And then they are free to marry their other children off in Pakistan...
PERFECT.
TheMistyclover That is why their children should be kept here, and ship them off.
Sue Horrocks you do realise that we had the same problem here within the English community within the white community you do realise that don't you we have husbands or boyfriend's killing their own wives and children you do realise that we have a very big problem in this country in England it's not only in the Pakistani community or in the Indian community or in the Middle East or wherever we have our own problems right here in the UK England
This reminds me of banaz, a young lady who was murdered for finding love. I'm glad that there are new laws to try and prevent more assaults and deaths.
That poor lady was ignored by the authorities 😭
This series has a program about Banaz Mahmod too--I watched it right before watching this one.
That was the most tragic story, Banaz… She went to the police secretly a few times…Awful May she and all of these women Rest In Peace..🙏🇨🇦
Yes! That was absolutely heartbreaking. Her father is a monster. Letting those men hurt and assault her before they killed her is the absolute worst. She was so beautiful and did everything she could. Her family should never see the light of day again.
Was about typing…reminds me of Banaz I just can’t get her off my mind😢😢😢😢
I went through the same thing and the parents and family members always lie about these things.
I'm sorry that happened to you. Hope you are safe and well now
I'm very impressed with the UK Police department recognizing the need and doing something about it
There is no honour in forcing or threating your child to marry someone they dont want .These people dont even understand yet alone know what true honour is .
Yep, they are the ones bringing the shame to themselves.
You can’t make people love each other. Poor girl just wants to make her own choices for whoever she chooses to be with.
I’m not of the same background and could not comprehend the amount of stress and pain these young ladies are suffering, but their courage and perseverance is to be admired and they need to be protected.
I'm from the rural States and I knew a chick whose parents showed up at her doorstep and tried to kidnap her she was Indian and she was in her early twenties and she had to flee the city we lived in and moved 2 hours away and then put herself through law School. Still to this day in her 40s not married no children.
That woman was a true mother. She stood up for her daughters
you can't hit anyone fool
Exactly
Ofcorse!!
💕
Actually you can hit a women but should avoid to do so
True(I'm late sorry)
Any father is who considers his female children his property to be exchanged for goods, services, money or favors , is a real POS and is not a real father !!!
The police force is amazing. As a women from the south asian country - Thank you!!!
"Father can't hit daughters, so I told her I will not hit you this time." Mmmmhmmmm.
Yeah I’m Muslim and this all disgusted me this would and has never happened in my family maybe it’s bcs I’m Turkish idk but forced marriage isn’t allowed in Islam
My heart goes out to Indian,Pakistani and bengali girls where its common to force marry off their daughters its a culture thing,
My heart goes out to the indigenous British people who have to put up with this disgusting culture and pay for it out of their noses!
Nd Afghans we suffer to
@@cupcakegirl5762 It hurts my heart to hear anyone has to suffer. Especially when it comes to marriage which should be a time for love not violence or death.
@@kevinmc70 Amen!
Not Indian it's a Muslim thing
So heartbreaking! Thankful for all the support they have!
I am amazed with this lvl of support... I live in the UK and didn't even know that it was taken so seriously by the police! I wish they would make it a reality tv show not to exploit these young women, but so that it would become more common knowledge and reach the women who need help.
An abuser will always deny, deny, deny. "I won't hit my daughter, I will hit my wife and sons".. hmm.. would have questioned that from the get go. He laughs about what the daughter accuses him of. He's guilty. I lived a similar life.
I won't beat you this TIME really??
metube I prefer an island with other dickheads like them.
Or a volcano.
And he can beat his wife and son? But he can chase her with a hammer?
Monster
I'm watching from Saskatchewan. I've seen his friendly, kind face going through my Facebook feeds a few months back. Watching this, watching them in pain while not knowing.. My prayers from Saskatchewan my friends. Hugs going to mom and brother.
I came from a cult-like Christian community. I was able to escape, but had a relationship with a Hindu man and we had a daughter. He wanted an abortion and was happy to pay for it. I had a good childhood and didn’t face violence, but the pressure brought to bear based on “what the community will say” was horrendous. These 2 things help me understand and have much compassion for my fellow sisters from Asia. This is an issue in all walks of life but my heart lies with my sisters in these Asian communities due to the risk of violence and honor related killings/violence. I wish I could help. How can I help...?