"The parents have failed to control these young girls" oh my god how can you talk about controlling young, defenseless girls when your son has literally been arrested for rape?! YOU have failed as a parent to control and raise him right!
That foundation of moral teachings you speak of doesn’t exist in the millions of homes that subscribe to a particular belief. A belief of unreasonable conditions not only applied to women in their own families and communities, but one that extends out to all women of the world. We do have a responsibility to teach our own children the truth about what and who to stay away from for their own safety and survival. To only rely on those corrupt fathers to govern their sons to solve this problem would be tragic. Predatory behavior towards girls/women makes the blood boil in real men. I wish there was more that governments and society together would do to combat it.
Men must be taught to respect women. In the event, if any lady is caught naked in unforeseen circumstances, they should be man enough to help cover her up NOT abuse her body for his pleasure. And women must be taught to value themselves.
@@azraelbatosi It isn't "cultural"; it's *RELIGIOUS* and you know it. That dogma perceives ALL women to be evil seductresses and male followers often force them to fully cover up from head to toe.
@@Msunbird02 no its not religious to do this this happens in some messed up cultures im muslim and dont know any1 muslim who does this or allows this so dont speak on things you dont know anything about
That father defending his two sons convicted of rape should take a look at himself in the mirror. Take responsibility and ask yourself who is in control of your spawns when they are out doing these monstrous things.
The father justifying the actions of his sons and blaming the girls instead is despicable. Obviously he is responsible for his son's lack of respect for women.
Absolutely. No wonder why his monster children have come up like that. It's not the fault of parents either. But of the entire community in which they all have grown and which feeds such Evil, monstrous and mysogynistic attitudes towards women and everyone else. The community of which you know I'm talking about.
And we cannot stereotype but against facts there’re no arguments; they all share some things; their disturbing beliefs about Western women, forced and/or arranged marriages, parents not addressing the importance of respect for women.
My sisters and I used to be out all day until 8pm at the ages of 6, 9 and 13 playing at parks and in the woods with our friends in the early 90’s. The problem isn’t the kids. The “problem” is imported and needs to be sent back
what that farther said made my blood boil , the way he just dismissed that she was only 13 and said it was the parents fault absolutely disgusting !!!!
The lovely " pea ful cuture" in ventented by a 56 yeqr ol old slave killer wgo fancied a 6 year old tgi rapw in his dirty bed every night Its all written in quran & gadeetgs & biw tge toubg miscreants like to enulate the rapists ^ murderes of the inventend death cult.
@@dia.6213 the way he comes across is disturbingly dismissive ! a 13 year old CANNOT GIVE CONSENT! I don't care who the parents of these girls are it's up to the "ADULTS" to know better!
WOW , WOW , WOW --- , at 29, 40 ,,, a pakistani father , whos TWO SONS were convicted of peadophilia ,, BLAMES the 13 year old girl for looking older then her age !! then he goes on to blame the parents , the police , the social services , the country , BRITISH SOCIETY . but he IGNORES THE FACT , THE GIRL WAS 13 years old !! AND CONTINUES TO PLEAD THAT HIS TWO BOYS WER NOT TO BLAME !! he should be in jail also .
The bloody father should have brought up his two children properly. and how can anyone blame the parents unless they know beforehand or during what a joke?
Correction: Aisha was 6 when she got married, but 9 when the marriage was consumed. Allah was not having a good day when he made a pedophile as a role model for all future generation
I also think rape is rape wether the victim is a girl or boy & the perpetrator whatever race or gender, and this crime needs to be better regulated and punished by law !
That man is blaming everything apart from him, actually he failed to raise up his boys decently. He doesn’t see him as a failed father. Shame on him. Hypocrite.
@@AliAhmed-ve5xl it's not all Pakistanis obviously. But there is a issue with boys and men gaslighting and not understanding the damage that is done. I met a victim in a mental hospital shed developed serious mental health issues for life. With religious communities the whole community would rather blame the girl than their precious sons. All boys men have a duty to expel rapists from our community the sexist gaslighting doesn't help.
So right. 12 year olds looked sexy when I was 12. Now, I got to have a younger Jennifer Aniston or Blake Lively with lots of curves and personality. If she can make me laugh, that's sexy. If she has a big dream and a way to reach it, that's sexy. She is beyond the beyond when she is smart.
we shouldnt blame the victim. women should have the freedom to wear whatever they want without the fear of getting assulted but thats just not the world we live in.
+GAACRLON you do realise girls get raped wearing jeans/jumpers and at all hours right? You shouldn't be blaming the victims either way but I don't see how your argument holds.
@@lorrainemoore7397 Their parents' attitudes about right and wrong travel with them in their heads. Deport the parents, too - or at least charge them somehow. Why should the rest of society have to foot the bill when the parents raised their kids wrong?
@ Actually, a more accurate term will be ``Pakistani muslim``. Of all the accused in grooming gangs, except for one(who is of Afghan muslim background)the rest all are Pakistani muslims.
“They do it for money. It’s hard to find a job these days” What? So instead of trying to find a job, you manipulate and take advantage of young, underaged girls? Yeah. Makes total sense 🙄🙄🙄
And with Brexit and Tory lies, this will become more and more the argument for them. No job, no food, no hope, while the wealthy amass more for themselves.
jesus, one minute you're down the job center looking for work the next minute you're abusing schoolgirls and then selling them to you mates! Job options must be tight in Derby. FML
the sentence for rape needs to be raised! most of the men from the Rochdale scandal got an average of 5 to 12 years that is not enough for the public rape of several 12 year old girls
though I think that the first action that needs to be taken is to establish a police force that is actually willing to investigate the crimes. The punishment for the crime can be much, much longer than it currently is but without police officers who actually take action even the toughest punishments are useless because no suspect will ever end up in court. Yes, I agree that the sentences are laughable but I think the bigger problem is the completely passive police service and the complicit social services.
Until women can practice what they preach and stop making false accusation, the sentencing Limits should stay. If not be reduced. America's justice system is founded on the principle that its better to let 10 guilty men go than put one innocent man in jail. Nothing has put more innocent men in jail than women.
@@Ucanchokeonit If false accusations are your biggest concern, then altering sentencing limits will do little good. A conviction is a conviction and will be an impediment to career progression and also an obstacle in private life. The best thing against false accusations are proper investigations, insisting and upholding the principle of innocent until proven guilty and to convict only if the accused is found guilty beyond reasonable doubt. Unfortunately, forensic examinations are expensive but are valuable to serve justice properly
@@smallGatsby You are correct. The best defense against false accusation is good investigation. But, how can you consider any investigation into sexual assault in modern times of being impartial with no bias? The #MeToo movement flat out demands that everyone must believe every woman and every accusation! And they have no problem with using the media go crucify anyone that acts in the slightest way that they don't believe an accusation? The implied context of this is that "All women are telling the truth and all men are liars." This rationale is fundamentally flawed. It disgusts me that this is considered acceptable. Until men are given equal footing through the entire investigation process, and trial, then no, absolutely no increase should be made to the punishment for rape and strongly suggest opening dialogue about reducing them until equality is restored to the process.
@@Ucanchokeonit Anyone who demands that any accusation needs to be believed is of course over stepping the line and I completely understand your criticism of the media. The first step towards better investigations is to take political correctness out of policing. There should be nothing in the police's curriculum/training that teaches the woke leftie virtues. If by removing politically correct content some slots become available, one could think about teaching more about forensics and how to secure evidence. It was political correctness that prevented the proper investigation of the "grooming gangs" (because men of a certain religion can only ever be the victims according to political correctness) and the MeToo movement or elements thereof make use of political correctness, because according to pc white men are so totally capable of being offenders. This ideology needs to be urgently removed from policing. I admit that I can't offer a solution on what to do with sensationalist media coverage. Maybe make it mandatory that should a person NOT be convicted after extensive pre-trial media coverage, the media must report on the outcome as extensive as it did during the pre-trial phase. In that case journalists may opt for a more neutral coverage.
This is exactly why Mothers need to let their daughters/sons know about these type of men as soon as possible. Protect your Children, there's a creep around every corner.
These men are on facebook, adding young girls, one added my 13 year old niece, when I messaged him asking why as a big man he is in my nieces friend list and liking her pictures, he had the nerve to be rude back, these men are shameless.
miss m Yes they are totally shameless, it's like they don't even see anything wrong with what they're doing & unfortunately nowadays with all the social media & mobile phones, it makes accessing girls all so much more easier & quicker for them. They can then soon whittle out who the vulnerable ones are & begin their 'grooming' process on them. Good on you for questioning him 👍🏻
The problem with situations like these, particularly in the West, is that much of society for the last 20 years has been so afraid of being considered racist, that these crimes can go unnoticed, unchallenged and unpunished for far too long. When you live in the UK, regardless of your skin colour, you abide by our laws or you get the gavel. I don't understand this oversensitivity to treat different ethnic groups as if they're made of glass - they're human beings, no one should be treated differently in the eyes of the law, and certainly not underestimated if there is criminal activity.
This will continue to happen until Westerners start realising their individualistic philosophy doesn't work. Sadly the UK has one of the most selfish societies, I've ever seen. These girls were from the bottom of the bottom in society, so no one cares. English men should have hunted these criminals down months ago and took matters into their own hands.
Maybe you have a point. But I dont on my think so. Research shows that POC are more likely to be arrested, more likely to do longer sentences for the same crimes, more likely to experience hate crimes, more likely to be unjustly discriminated against in almost all areas of life, but especially by the judicial system. I don’t think “PC culture” is to blame. Lol Actually I think that’s silly. Esp in the US. As the reporter said, most rapists are lone white men.
Here in the U.S. we’ve sadly become so sensitive to everyone’s feelings that it seems we’d rather be politically correct than offend an offender! It’s madness! “When you get used to preferential treatment, equal treatment can seem like discrimination!” Thomas Sowell
Omg whattt? What happened to her? I'm going to Google it. I just discovered about how popular first cousins marriage in Pakistanian community.. And even more around word.. It's shocking how some of moms, Moschee leaders ignoring the real facts. The most saddest part is "does innocent children's" are suffering from deep ignorance of there parents. Hope they will stop this practice everywhere. Peace to you all.
I hope Chloe knows what a strong, brave and amazing person she is for sharing something so painful so openly. I hope you have been able to heal from this horrific and disgusting trauma that you went through. No punishment is enough for those motherfuckers. In my opinion doing this to someone is even worse than murdering someone. Because you forced them to live for the rest of their lives with the horrible memories of what you did to them.
If an entire culture views women as less than, what do you expect? Somewhere along the line people forgot that we don't train our kids for our selves, but for the world. Mothers need to teach their sons that women matter and fathers need to teach by example respect your wives, and don't treat your daughter as lesser than the son.
Everyone has failed according to the father, except for him, he didn't fail to raise decent men. Your view on women was definitely passed on to your sons and that is the result,
Blaming the girls for being out at 11 at night is not an evasion of moral responsibility. It does not in any way excuse grooming. Besides which, these gangs hang around outside schools in the afternoon. They are predators regardless of the time.
"stealing has more consequences" when he said that I felt sick. It shouldn't be this way. There should be maximum consequences for raping a child. Wtf is wrong with this world and why aren't our most vulnerable protected like they should be? 😢
Overly PC Culture. The cops have said that they were afraid of being called racists. They didn't want to lose their jobs. It's amazing how many of the cops know about it and choose to keep a blind eye. Some cops have lost their jobs, but many of the still remain working the same areas to this day.
@@Nytephyre this is EDL rhetoric, data is inconclusive. There is a problem but it isn't wide spread. These men aren't convicted because cops are scared of being called racist, not much can stop a policeman from carrying out his duty. Its due to lack of evidence, it's a he said she said situation. And a lot of the victims dont think or feel like victims. Did you even bother listening to the documentary? This was spoon fed to you
Are we really going to believe that these girls were neglected by their parents, ignored by the Police, ignored by the Social Services, ignored by Elected Politicians and eventually called thrown into the gutter by the judicial system. I hold my head in shame for those that have let these children down.
Alison Lee My point is that this is propoganda and that is why white boys need to start EDL, national front, and the bnp, they hate seeing white women with Pakistani men. They hate seeing white women convert to Islam.
keep it up - 20's life is so much more interesting than teens as long as people don't buy into crap like this. study, acquire discipline and some work experience
It's there, but it's often silenced. Look at what the government did to Tommy Robinson for trying to bring this to light and stop it. Everyone is too afraid of being labeled a racist so they turn a blind eye. There are plenty of British patriots who are trying to bring attention to this issue and more is being learned about it.
In the UK you can't take any action against this. You will be branded a racist and charged with hate speech. The police would sooner arrest YOU than the child rapists. It has become a part of the culture there now. If you have a young daughter and you live in a 'multicultural' neighborhood be prepared to move.
Oh, there's outrage. Sadly, many councils have utterly failed the girls. Rotherham and Rochdale councils (along others) behaved appallingly. The girls had been coming forward for years and they were just ignored
mostly covered-up by Labour councils who rely on the muslim vote....they brand anyone who calls-out this disgrace as 'r@cist'---------- a word rendered meaningless by overuse and misuse...........these pervs should be neutered then deported in a sinking ship
While giving the victims a voice is important, it would be just as important to address the root cause - Pakistani culture, specifically towards women. And how it could carry over no matter what country they live in. Please do a documentary on this.
If it happened to their sisters, according to sharia law, they could stone their sisters to death for being raped and out late at night talking to men. So that’s not really a relevant way of reasoning.
No wonder people become vigilantes and take things into their own hands. I have a daughter, if this happened to her. Not sure if these people would still be walking the planet. It would be taken 4
The saddest part was the young men she interviewed thought it was all a joke, you seen them laughing and kidding around. Not sure what English prisons are like, but if enough of these guys are getting out perhaps they need to be sent to American prisons. This is another thing that demonstrates the English government’s inability to control their country, this should be addressed and dealt with in the most severe of manner. This is not an ethnic or racial issue it is an issue of men abusing children. Being a man this makes me not only angry but embarrassed of my gendermates.
These women were children when they were abused, and thus, it shouldn't be up to them to see themselves as victims and press charges, but up to there parents. It makes me sick what has happened to them, and even more sick they haven't received justice.
So true. I hate that women will get arrested and prison time for prostitution since a majority of them are forced into this sex slavery and forced to work or they will die. And yet they get punished? And to think some people want to legalize prostitution which will only increase the slavery.. It's a gross world we live in.
Legalising prostitution would prevent women from being arrested and getting prison time. It would also reduce the number of women forced into prostitution, because often when prostitution is legalised it's confined to licensed brothels, which can be heavily regulated, women would need to present proof of age and if there's any sign they're being forced into it police can get involved. Meanwhile this would reduce the profit motive for pimps to illegally force women into prostitution because clients would have an alternative to picking up prostitutes from the street.
Until Britain introduces stiff penalties for this type of crime and drives the point home that this sort of behavoiur is not acceptable on British soil, nothing will change. Men coming into Western countries need to be educated that you are expected to respect the girls and women you coexist with. End of story.
Jyot Purohit do not lie. Most perpetrators aren’t muslims. Certainly not in Portugal where there isn’t barely any muslims. Hope you are as shocked with the crimes of the catholic church.
@@claudiabelchior7531 well... The Catholic Church Does wrong things down here in India too. We Hindus have suffered a lot because of both abrahamic religions... so just warning your country
I am helping a Dutch girl right now. It takes a lot of patience, but she is making progress. They get them hooked on drugs and threaten them with violence. It's a vicious cycle. And they ruin their lives to a degree. The girls become numb.
@@ADUAquascaping You know, that makes you a hero in my eyes. We are at our very best when we turn to another human who is struggling and we hold out a hand. Hold it out, urge them to take it and promise not to let go till they are out of the dark.
@@teslagirl1 I usually don't say anything because I really don't want to identify my EGO with being a hero. I just feel she needs help and we met for a reason. She just started telling me everything and needs help. Her boyfriend is also helping her, and he helped her go to the police. I told her that I will never give up on her. She still has a lot of trauma and relapses often, but I remind her who she was before all of this happened, and I don't blame her for her behavior. I think the main issue is that only 25-30% of girls and women report their rapes and only 1% or so end up with a conviction. After doing a lot of research, running the statistics, and going to some awareness events, I see how we do live in a rape culture. It really breaks my heart that certain men perpetuate this violence. Maybe because they are underdeveloped in regards to understanding the feminine, or they were abused themselves, or simply indulging in evil. We definitely need to change society however. I am willing to do whatever I can to help. There is a lot of dark in the world, and of course a lot of light. I was always kept up at night thinking about this kind of thing and I felt the urge to start bringing awareness to what is going on, and then by chance we met and we started talking. She began dropping little hints, which I picked up on. It took a long time for her to open up about almost everything. I don't consider it lying on her part because she doesn't know who to trust. You are actually the very first person I have told about this situation. I guess I needed to vent about it all because it can be pretty heavy at times. But for some reason I can handle the burden. Stay safe and stay strong! ❤️
@@ADUAquascaping I am glad you said something. People NEED to have examples of how a decent human being SHOULD act. And some people need that kick to their conscience to motivate them to actually help...lots of people are great about expressing sympathy remotely...and will talk about how wrong such abuse is...but when it is RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEM, they just look away and won't get involved. Not even after the fact, when a victim struggling with trauma and sometimes life changing injuries or health problems that resulted from what occurred, is in desperate need of a helping hand... a hand they are perfectly capable of extending, resources they can easily spare. I know a lady who buys comfortable but nice looking clothes and underthings, easy to get on and very soft, to bring to the hospital for rape and assault victims or trafficking victims to wear home. Some don't have family to ask...some come from families who hurt them...there are lots of reasons that there is no one to call on or a reason not to, reasons a girl needs these clothes. And the easy to get on part helps the badly injured who don't want help getting it on. I've helped her choose items, deliver them, even done a quick little needle and thread work by hand when something needed a slight adjustment. It's a small thing, but it's also a much needed one. Not every hospital has donated clothes or a charity that works with them to provide same when called on, and few that do make such good choices in the garments provided. These items were SO soft, so easy to put on...and there were slip on tennis shoes or flats to go with them. After what happened to them...and their ER and police experience...and finally getting to have a thorough wash and shampoo...sometimes additional days in the hospital for their injuries or a need for observation due to a head injury...getting new, nice clothes so they could go home with a little basic human dignity helped restore a tiny bit of each woman's equilibrium. For one girl, raped the day she aged out of foster care by a relative of her foster father, a man who wanted to traffic her, the clothes we brought her were the only clothes she had ever worn which were new...ditto with the shoes. Peg found her a safer place than the one she was living in...a room with a family. They saw to it she got to therapy appointments, arranged her to attend an i.t. program in a local community college, and gave her a wage for being a part time mother's helper. Today she's fully independent and thriving...but she says her new life began with putting on those new clothes.
I grew up around Pakistanis and Indians. Indians would always get really upset if you confused them for Pakistani, I now understand why. Why is it that the Pakistanis I went to school with still all live with their parents at 30+ years old but yet drive £50K luxury cars and always have the latest phone/Rolex? I know this is a huge generalization but I notice it all the time pretty much exclusively with Pakistanis and Arabs, its all about show and the illusion of success, or maybe picking up under-aged girls as I can only assume they would be the only ones gullible enough to fall for it. Indians generally invest in businesses and education, I have allot more respect for that. Very different people indeed.
At 16 a 13yr old girl initiated sexual activity with me. As an adult (just) I knew it was wrong and although given the opportunity it went no further. How can these 'adult' men turn the blame on these undeveloped girls. It's wrong. End of...
Because it is one thing for the lion to hunt the gazelle, it is another for the gazelle to go to the lion's den. The lion will eat the gazelle in either case, and the lion does not care whether it is this gazelle or that gazelle, whichever is the easiest hunt. Do not mistake the men's criticism of the gazelle going to the lion's den for celebration of the lion eating the gazelle. Men are simple creatures, for us, the easiest way to protect our young and make sure they're not eaten is to make sure they're not the easiest to hunt (because we cannot be there to protect them every minute of every day). Until the end of humanity, there will be lions, and the lions will always hunt and eat gazelles.
You weren’t an adult at 16. But even under 18, you’re right. Because there’s a 2.5 age difference law, when both parties are under 18, or something like that.
That father!!! Blaming the girls’ parents! Disgraceful. What about him as a parent? Using his standard: How did he fail his sons and bring them up to be pedophile rapists!!!
How is it far-right to be against children being raped! And why do they get approached when walking home from school! Should they not be allowed out then either? Picked up and driven straight home by a parent and locked up .... Might as well eh?! Seems safer
In other words, become a replica of Pakistani (or Saudi) society... we'll finally get to the point where females of all ages cannot leave home without a male escort. Sounds about right? I agree... resistance to this behavior & lawlessness is not "far right"... I am "left". Freedom includes freedom of movement & security in one's personal safety. Without this, other freedoms are non-existent... freedom of speech, association, etc. After that's gone, what happens to democracy? It cannot exist either... at least for women. Neo-liberalism is taking us economically back to feudalism... and apparently politically correct "tolerance" is taking us socially back to the Dark Ages.
If your anti muslim …….your far right . Funny that isn't it as the authorities knew yet did nothing until it was exposed and they had to do some thing .
Wow. Just wow.... I feel physically sick, I want to throw up. Someone else commented too I read but seriously guys we HAVE to do WHATEVER it takes to protect our children! They are our most precious resources... And good God SO many are suffering 😥
It obviously isn't but I think that it was pointed out simply because far-right types will use the fact that some gangs have been shown to be non-white in their hate-spreading.
Just for following the man`s logic (who is speaking in the film from 30:00 ) for example: If at 2 am a naked 13 year old girl is on the middle of the street and a 30 year old man is raping her, it is the girls fault? I do not think so. Even if this unbelievable case would happen, the 30 year old man should ask her if is everything okay? (I guess not) Where are her parents, what happened? And he could take his coat and wrap it around her and take her to a police station. That is what a mature man would do.
Maybe making young girls aware of this in schools? It's appalling. I cannot bare to think that this could happen to my daughter's. And the idea that nobody was prosecuted for this makes my bloody boil.
Nah! feminists would say "it is forcing girls to learn to behave, but it's the boys who should learn to be respectful to girls". And leftists liberals will say "it is racist against South Asians". So never gonna happen.
This prompted me to start the conversation with my 11 ( girl) and 13 (boy) yr old I’m a social worker who’s spent almost 20 yrs working with survivors, I’ve had to many conversations/interactions/counseling sessions/ court appearances (testimony)… but I was still propelled to have the most frank discussion I’ve had to date with my kids Attention parents/ loved ones of kids/teenagers HAVE THE CONVERSATION NOW!!!
@allen Mackenzie they done another advert to show in schools but with white boys , it defeated the object and it also painted white boys in a bad light , the girls are going to look out for white boys but not for Pakistani grooming gangs , what a joke pathetic.
Our punishments aren’t severe. Not only do we need to teach young girls exactly how they may be manipulated but increase the severity of the punishment that people won’t think twice before doing something bad. - I hope no one’s daughter has to go through this🙏🏼 These girls will always be in my prayers, they’re honestly scarred for life - I don’t understand how anyone can be turned on by this😭
We also need to have a reliable police force that actually investigates crimes. We can have the toughest punishments but without a reliable police force no prosecution is ever going to get started. And as long as the offenders know that the police is afraid to investigate their crimes, they do not need to be concerned about potential punishments.
Thousands of white working class girls targeted, only a few prosecutions. They have got away with this for decades - it was even covered in Rita, Sue & Bob too & Andrea Dunbar had written about it even in the 1970's & herself was pregnant by Pakistani men when she was underage, she was in Keighley one of the central areas in all this, she never saw 30, her children becames addicts, her grandchild died, its as grim as it gets x
Hearing her describe what had happened and watching the lasting effect just broke my heart. Do these people just not have any humanity? Do they not care about the effect it has on others? I find it mind boggling.
Why did people wait for the police to do something? If they had done this to me, my dad and my uncles and a few buddies would have had a little talk with whoever was doing it to me. And I don't think they would have survived to go and complain to the police about " racism".
If the Pakistani community in Britain as a whole doesn't want to be blamed for this then that community itself needs to step up and end this... Until they do that it is the entire community's fault
Let's call this what it is - another sick growing cultural specific sexual violence of child girls. These men need to be socialized into respecting women. If they can't or won't adopt then harsh consequences need to be enforced. Another most excellent documentary. Many thanks for posting. Loving ALL the videos you post.
Rapists and molesters are like that. They have no empathy for their victims at all and are more worried about if they'll get caught. They don't consider their victims to be "people", just things. So when they do get caught, they act as if they didn't do something bad. Kind of like children that know better when they do bad, but don't care and try to get you to sympathize with them so they don't get a severe punishment.
***** My princess Diana?? Last I checked, I didn't own anybody, especially a dead woman. Why are you talking about her sex life?? I was talking about sexual predators and how they treat their victims.
It's is amazing when the Pakistani parents talk about this subject they never say Pakistani problem, it's alway Asian Problem but we don't have this problem in any other Asian youngters like Indians, Sri Lankan, or Asian from any other country it alway Pakistani so why say Asian? .
@@nicolesmith5240 india is a huge country of 1.3 billion people,there will be cases of rape here and there which is bad...add to that western media especially bbc ,nyt,etc were always hinduphobic and racistic towards india
@@Aidahassan1 Jyoti issue happened so rape issue is big???do you know the frequency of sexual assaults in USA ,Brazil etc?? grooming gangs in UK??rapes and sexual assault is an issue in India but do not make it a huge issue only in India and other countries are heaven for them... western media glorifies rapes to such an extent that people feel that India is very unsafe for women...thats not the case...stop feeding biased racist Western media dude ...just calculate the assaults of USA and India if they are same population and you will understand the difference...
@@nicolesmith5240 You are an absolute buffon as you can't even read and comprehend. He was talking about people of Indians,Sri Lankans descent living in U.K.
I don’t understand how we can have exactly the same thing across so many towns? I think it’s about 20 different places, maybe more. I don’t understand why the authorities have turned a blind eye to this? I don’t understand why this is being hushed up? Or why the Muslim communities have allowed this, because it’s obviously broadly known about? Unbelievable that whole communities would allow and encourage this?
That's what happens in an overly PC place. The cops have even said they knew, but were afraid of being called racists if they stopped it. They didn't want to lose their jobs. It's looking like to criticize someone who isn't white or to arrest someone for a crime is now automatically called racist.
The far right are the ones manipulating the issue to blame it on Islam which isn't the issue. These groomers are the ones going against Islam if you didn't know but the far right will refuse to see that.
I don’t know much about Islam, but I am a Christian, and there are quite a large number of men who claim to be Christian who sexually abuse children. I think these people intentionally use religion in order to gain trust. Extremely sad.
Parents, PLEASE talk to your kids❗️Make SURE they know that this exists, how to resist it , and if - God forbid - it happens, that MUST come to their parents.
Best comment so far in my opinion. We need to cultivate good culture. And it is the parents who must initiate that from a very young age. I don't think the parents from "that" community will give importance to culture.
Bem Fawkes Its culture and religion yes , lets not forget the religion part as this happens in most muslim countries . How ever it is mostly Pakistani men which are doing this and that is a fact . You seem upset about peoples anger on here , far more than what has been done to these poor girls or maybe I just miss understood what you mean ? .
These women are so strong💞 this isn't easy. Every women that I know, my close friends, about 80% have been raped and/or assaulted and it's been a recurring experience for about 90% of those women. These women are so strong. I hope she has found what she needs to recover and grow from this.
its a problem of cultural mismatch, most of these groomers are from countries where women even girl child is kept all covered and no respect whatsoever is given to the females of the family,The kind of freedom that females in Europe , Britain and US enjoy is simply not acceptable to these people and that is the reason even the father of the groomer blames the system, victims.
supposedly India is one of the rape capitals of the world. Hindus blame Muslims for that, but it is probably both of them - though more Muslims do it, I have no doubt. Pakistan used to be part of India. Westerners need to stop making "being judgmental" a bad thing, since it is really just "using your better judgment".
Totally agree. They see Western women as loose and therefore to blame for being abused and raped. Because we don't wear hijabs, travel alone and have basic human freedoms.
If these were Chinese rape gangs targeting Pakistani children. The Pakistanis would be going apeshit and screaming " its a Chinese problem". But saying it's a Pakistani problem is a no no.
I lived in London for 4 years (im from Hungary) and one time I needed to go home with taxi because we worked in the restaurant until late night (at the time I was 22 years old), so the driver was very nice to me, asking some things, like where do i from, how old i am, do i like to live here.... etc etc. He was 40 something years old. I quickly said I live with my boyfriend, just to be sure. (I really did) and he still speak with me a lot, and in the end of the ride he said just call him anytime I want, he give me rides, no problems, we are friends. And we need friends in this country, because also he is from another country, (i dont remember where pakistani maybe). and just give him a call of i need, or if i just want to speak with somebody.... I was naive person always, but not that much, so I told my boyfriend what happened and he wanted to call him and have a little chat with him, but i said no, like lets not make him angry, who knows if he is alone or not (i dont think so). But I was so afraid that he did actually know where I lived. But thanks God nothing happened. If I look back now, maybe I would turn to the police, and give his number to them. Even if actually he didnt do nothing, and who knows, maybe he just wanted to be my friend. ..... Sure.
Parents are negligent to busy caught up in their own life to focus on their children not saying every parent is like it bit some just aint arsed they never seem to spot signs or check ask where they are or are going it royals me
"The parents have failed to control these young girls" oh my god how can you talk about controlling young, defenseless girls when your son has literally been arrested for rape?! YOU have failed as a parent to control and raise him right!
Emma Larsen thank you!
Cheesey Chickens no not justifies, but if you can't look after yourself then deal with the consequences
GAACRLON Maybe if a man can't look at a woman without raping her, he should have his eyes gouged out.
but you're not totally wrong. But the true fix is to deport PAKISTANIS
there parents are not just responsible .but these girls are also responsible ...they are mature they know everything ...
The dad should teach his dirty sons not to go after girls and he should stop blaming everyone else. The way they are starts at home.
he is ashamed only because is sons were caught !
All pedophiles deserve severe punishments !
That foundation of moral teachings you speak of doesn’t exist in the millions of homes that subscribe to a particular belief. A belief of unreasonable conditions not only applied to women in their own families and communities, but one that extends out to all women of the world. We do have a responsibility to teach our own children the truth about what and who to stay away from for their own safety and survival. To only rely on those corrupt fathers to govern their sons to solve this problem would be tragic. Predatory behavior towards girls/women makes the blood boil in real men. I wish there was more that governments and society together would do to combat it.
Men must be taught to respect women. In the event, if any lady is caught naked in unforeseen circumstances, they should be man enough to help cover her up NOT abuse her body for his pleasure. And women must be taught to value themselves.
Those hails from porkistan. Their parents cant teach them as they have master degree in this
The father has the same views about women.
Whacked father talking about how they should be controlling their daughters... how about you control your sons?! Disgusting!!!!
Brianna Blaxland it’s cultural....they have very little regard for women, seeing particularly “western” women solely as evil seductresses
but hear me there
what if everyone just starts controlling their own kids
These are graduates of madrasas....what else can we expect from such idiots....
@@azraelbatosi
It isn't "cultural"; it's *RELIGIOUS* and you know it. That dogma perceives ALL women to be evil seductresses and male followers often force them to fully cover up from head to toe.
@@Msunbird02 no its not religious to do this this happens in some messed up cultures im muslim and dont know any1 muslim who does this or allows this so dont speak on things you dont know anything about
That father defending his two sons convicted of rape should take a look at himself in the mirror. Take responsibility and ask yourself who is in control of your spawns when they are out doing these monstrous things.
It was the way he was trying to blame the girls for it that I found most shocking.
@@anthonykow997 it happens in all race and religions, females are always blamed for the crimes committed against them
Here is a whole family of males that should be put down, and turned into manure, scum
I'd deport it back too ancestral lands with its 2 sprogs
Obviously did this to his wife ...pigs,pigs,pigs.
The father justifying the actions of his sons and blaming the girls instead is despicable. Obviously he is responsible for his son's lack of respect for women.
Well consequences are Prison. Pedophiles in prison get their own special treatment too
That father saying it was the children's fault needs to be imprisoned as well
He shld b deported on first available flight if you want to save your girls
Exactly!!
Absolutely. No wonder why his monster children have come up like that.
It's not the fault of parents either. But of the entire community in which they all have grown and which feeds such Evil, monstrous and mysogynistic attitudes towards women and everyone else.
The community of which you know I'm talking about.
Monsters
Go cry
The dad blames the girls for being out at that time of the night, is just as disgusting as his sons.
Apple never fell far x
And we cannot stereotype but against facts there’re no arguments; they all share some things; their disturbing beliefs about Western women, forced and/or arranged marriages, parents not addressing the importance of respect for women.
Some people are terrible as my family.
My sisters and I used to be out all day until 8pm at the ages of 6, 9 and 13 playing at parks and in the woods with our friends in the early 90’s. The problem isn’t the kids. The “problem” is imported and needs to be sent back
Welcome to Islam
what that farther said made my blood boil , the way he just dismissed that she was only 13 and said it was the parents fault absolutely disgusting !!!!
The lovely " pea ful cuture" in ventented by a 56 yeqr ol old slave killer wgo fancied a 6 year old tgi rapw in his dirty bed every night
Its all written in quran & gadeetgs & biw tge toubg miscreants like to enulate the rapists ^ murderes of the inventend death cult.
@@dia.6213 the way he comes across is disturbingly dismissive ! a 13 year old CANNOT GIVE CONSENT! I don't care who the parents of these girls are it's up to the "ADULTS" to know better!
That's Muslim Pakistani mind
it’s disgusting and putrid. that’s horrific
@@fabash6763
Not the whole of their community. That is not typical of the Muslim or Pakistani mind.
WOW , WOW , WOW --- , at 29, 40 ,,, a pakistani father , whos TWO SONS were convicted of peadophilia ,, BLAMES the 13 year old girl for looking older then her age !!
then he goes on to blame the parents , the police , the social services , the country , BRITISH SOCIETY .
but he IGNORES THE FACT , THE GIRL WAS 13 years old !!
AND CONTINUES TO PLEAD THAT HIS TWO BOYS WER NOT TO BLAME !!
he should be in jail also .
The best argument was if the police were doing their job the girls wouldn't have been out at 11pm, My god accept you brought up two evil monsters.
The bloody father should have brought up his two children properly. and how can anyone blame the parents unless they know beforehand or during what a joke?
Correction: Aisha was 6 when she got married, but 9 when the marriage was consumed. Allah was not having a good day when he made a pedophile as a role model for all future generation
deport the wild hordes back to their shithole that is the only solution or problems will be only bigger and bigger
Execute
I also think rape is rape wether the victim is a girl or boy & the perpetrator whatever race or gender, and this crime needs to be better regulated and punished by law !
That man is blaming everything apart from him, actually he failed to raise up his boys decently. He doesn’t see him as a failed father. Shame on him. Hypocrite.
That's the point they are hypocrite trash
He didn’t fail to raise them. He consciously raised them to be the monsters that they are and he is proud of it
@@sabrinatscha2554 Wouldn't be surprised if he were a perp too
He probably did it too
Funny how they never want their faces shown, yet they also don’t want their sister, mothers, wives subject to the same violence. Totally sick 🤢🤮🤮🤮
You all love Pakistanis too much
Exactly 💯 perverted evil rapist bastards
@@AliAhmed-ve5xl it's not all Pakistanis obviously. But there is a issue with boys and men gaslighting and not understanding the damage that is done. I met a victim in a mental hospital shed developed serious mental health issues for life. With religious communities the whole community would rather blame the girl than their precious sons. All boys men have a duty to expel rapists from our community the sexist gaslighting doesn't help.
I agree!
Exactly
A man shouldn't be looking at a child anyway.So it shouldn't matter what she's wearing
jamal guen ...IT ABSOLUTELY MATTERS WHAT SHE'S WEARING....BECAUSE IT CAN BE DEADLY....WAKE UP. !!!
Patrick Mcgarren absolutely the bastards
Abdul AlpLimIndFox what do u mean??
Ana Sofia Monteiro He's just being a hateful SOB.
Yolanda Jenkins or you can gain some common sense
Girls should be allowed to go out wearing what they want, men should just not look at children that way, no excuses
Fookie Bookie You know you're victim blaming right. It doesn't matter what they wear.
Sometimes it's more about making decisions that reduces risk in this world.
So right. 12 year olds looked sexy when I was 12. Now, I got to have a younger Jennifer Aniston or Blake Lively with lots of curves and personality. If she can make me laugh, that's sexy. If she has a big dream and a way to reach it, that's sexy. She is beyond the beyond when she is smart.
we shouldnt blame the victim. women should have the freedom to wear whatever they want without the fear of getting assulted but thats just not the world we live in.
NaithanModz they are children
The best way to prevent rape/sexual violence; is for parents to raise boys who respect girls/women
bunnyboiler 666 how about teach girls to take responsibility for their actions
+GAACRLON you do realise girls get raped wearing jeans/jumpers and at all hours right? You shouldn't be blaming the victims either way but I don't see how your argument holds.
Anne N either learn to look after yourself or deal with it, obviously you don't know how to take responsibility for yourself.
Anne N I think its your argument that doesn't hold lmfao
Anne N get over it buttercup, if you can't take care of yourself you need to stay inside.
This is Tazeen Ahmad's legacy. A brave, fearless journalist who died long before her time!! RIP M'AM!!!
Yeah a proud Pakistani 👏👏
How did she die?
@@relevantelevant8203 cancer.
@@dishabaidya634 how sad, I never knew that, she was beautiful
@@relevantelevant8203 Cancer..
Rotten parent's who can't control their son's. Deport them now! RIP Tazeen 🌹
They target young girls in children’s homes who probably live miles away from their families
@@lorrainemoore7397 Their parents' attitudes about right and wrong travel with them in their heads. Deport the parents, too - or at least charge them somehow. Why should the rest of society have to foot the bill when the parents raised their kids wrong?
What should happen to the criminal considered true Brits?
exactly. . . cant live by our laws then get out
3.8% of England population responsible for 97% of grooming Ganga . this is very sad !!!!
Yea Hinduism and islam are the same
@ Nope. Grooming gangs consists of entirely muslims
@@dailyyoutuber4563 never knew that. Thanks 👍
@ Actually, a more accurate term will be ``Pakistani muslim``. Of all the accused in grooming gangs, except for one(who is of Afghan muslim background)the rest all are Pakistani muslims.
Grooming gangs in place of grooming Ganga.😂😂
“They do it for money. It’s hard to find a job these days” What? So instead of trying to find a job, you manipulate and take advantage of young, underaged girls? Yeah. Makes total sense 🙄🙄🙄
They should just starve and die from lack of money.
And with Brexit and Tory lies, this will become more and more the argument for them. No job, no food, no hope, while the wealthy amass more for themselves.
It’s a total BS excuse.
jesus, one minute you're down the job center looking for work the next minute you're abusing schoolgirls and then selling them to you mates! Job options must be tight in Derby. FML
@@UmongusSussehFrusseh no, they should steal food... Except thieves get more time...
RIP to the beautiful reporter Tazeen Ahmad who passed away in 2019.
A tragic loss!
Omg she’s so young! I can’t believe it
Why did she pass away
@@emiliaa.X0X0 why? If you meant how then the answer is cancer mate:(
May her soul rest in Peace! Gone too soon!
the sentence for rape needs to be raised! most of the men from the Rochdale scandal got an average of 5 to 12 years that is not enough for the public rape of several 12 year old girls
though I think that the first action that needs to be taken is to establish a police force that is actually willing to investigate the crimes. The punishment for the crime can be much, much longer than it currently is but without police officers who actually take action even the toughest punishments are useless because no suspect will ever end up in court.
Yes, I agree that the sentences are laughable but I think the bigger problem is the completely passive police service and the complicit social services.
Until women can practice what they preach and stop making false accusation, the sentencing Limits should stay. If not be reduced. America's justice system is founded on the principle that its better to let 10 guilty men go than put one innocent man in jail.
Nothing has put more innocent men in jail than women.
@@Ucanchokeonit If false accusations are your biggest concern, then altering sentencing limits will do little good. A conviction is a conviction and will be an impediment to career progression and also an obstacle in private life. The best thing against false accusations are proper investigations, insisting and upholding the principle of innocent until proven guilty and to convict only if the accused is found guilty beyond reasonable doubt.
Unfortunately, forensic examinations are expensive but are valuable to serve justice properly
@@smallGatsby You are correct. The best defense against false accusation is good investigation. But, how can you consider any investigation into sexual assault in modern times of being impartial with no bias? The #MeToo movement flat out demands that everyone must believe every woman and every accusation! And they have no problem with using the media go crucify anyone that acts in the slightest way that they don't believe an accusation? The implied context of this is that "All women are telling the truth and all men are liars." This rationale is fundamentally flawed. It disgusts me that this is considered acceptable. Until men are given equal footing through the entire investigation process, and trial, then no, absolutely no increase should be made to the punishment for rape and strongly suggest opening dialogue about reducing them until equality is restored to the process.
@@Ucanchokeonit Anyone who demands that any accusation needs to be believed is of course over stepping the line and I completely understand your criticism of the media.
The first step towards better investigations is to take political correctness out of policing. There should be nothing in the police's curriculum/training that teaches the woke leftie virtues. If by removing politically correct content some slots become available, one could think about teaching more about forensics and how to secure evidence.
It was political correctness that prevented the proper investigation of the "grooming gangs" (because men of a certain religion can only ever be the victims according to political correctness) and the MeToo movement or elements thereof make use of political correctness, because according to pc white men are so totally capable of being offenders. This ideology needs to be urgently removed from policing.
I admit that I can't offer a solution on what to do with sensationalist media coverage.
Maybe make it mandatory that should a person NOT be convicted after extensive pre-trial media coverage, the media must report on the outcome as extensive as it did during the pre-trial phase. In that case journalists may opt for a more neutral coverage.
This is exactly why Mothers need to let their daughters/sons know about these type of men as soon as possible. Protect your Children, there's a creep around every corner.
This is also why future Mothers should not marry PIGS such as the father of the rapists, to prevent them from reproducing.
@@kushbewashere I agree with you, but I suspect that his wife had no choice
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@@kushbewashere 1
It's very simple. They're being racist towards white girls. Why can't you just admit this. It's very obvious.
These men are on facebook, adding young girls, one added my 13 year old niece, when I messaged him asking why as a big man he is in my nieces friend list and liking her pictures, he had the nerve to be rude back, these men are shameless.
miss m
Yes they are totally shameless, it's like they don't even see anything wrong with what they're doing & unfortunately nowadays with all the social media & mobile phones, it makes accessing girls all so much more easier & quicker for them. They can then soon whittle out who the vulnerable ones are & begin their 'grooming' process on them. Good on you for questioning him 👍🏻
+クリスティアンスニガ come on find that peraon
+Adfghggh Adffhchc find that person
miss m they have a brass neck cheeky bastards don't matter what ye do the authorities cover it up to avoid the war that is looming?Speed the day!
This is why I am firmly against children using social media. There are too many predators at bay.
The problem with situations like these, particularly in the West, is that much of society for the last 20 years has been so afraid of being considered racist, that these crimes can go unnoticed, unchallenged and unpunished for far too long. When you live in the UK, regardless of your skin colour, you abide by our laws or you get the gavel. I don't understand this oversensitivity to treat different ethnic groups as if they're made of glass - they're human beings, no one should be treated differently in the eyes of the law, and certainly not underestimated if there is criminal activity.
This will continue to happen until Westerners start realising their individualistic philosophy doesn't work. Sadly the UK has one of the most selfish societies, I've ever seen. These girls were from the bottom of the bottom in society, so no one cares. English men should have hunted these criminals down months ago and took matters into their own hands.
Maybe you have a point. But I dont on my think so. Research shows that POC are more likely to be arrested, more likely to do longer sentences for the same crimes, more likely to experience hate crimes, more likely to be unjustly discriminated against in almost all areas of life, but especially by the judicial system.
I don’t think “PC culture” is to blame. Lol Actually I think that’s silly. Esp in the US. As the reporter said, most rapists are lone white men.
Here in the U.S. we’ve sadly become so sensitive to everyone’s feelings that it seems we’d rather be politically correct than offend an offender! It’s madness!
“When you get used to preferential treatment, equal treatment can seem like discrimination!”
Thomas Sowell
Amen to that!
@@coffeecrimegal5968 but minorities in the US do not receive equal treatment at all lol.
I am just going to quote a sentence from this whole documentary: “Stealing has more consequences”.
Míriam a sad fact all over the world.
"Every hole's a goal". Disgusting.
That has me in tears.
Wtf is wrong with the world?
Yup. Anyone who rapes or molests a child deserves life in prison!!
A very true fact in the United States as well. Child rapists usually do not get adequate prison time until they kill a kid.
RIP Tazeen Ahmad. Thank you for your fearless journalism, bravery & eloquence.
Omg whattt? What happened to her? I'm going to Google it.
I just discovered about how popular first cousins marriage in Pakistanian community.. And even more around word.. It's shocking how some of moms, Moschee leaders ignoring the real facts. The most saddest part is "does innocent children's" are suffering from deep ignorance of there parents. Hope they will stop this practice everywhere. Peace to you all.
@@ukab3956 she died from Cancer
Beautiful lady inside and out. RIP
"There are more consequences tied to stealing." It's a shame how true this is.
Yes, and you voted for politicians that let this happen for decades.
just an incredibly sad reality. possessions are valued more than women’s lives
@@davidolofsson6928 Didn't know you could guess someone's voting history on youtube.
I hope Chloe knows what a strong, brave and amazing person she is for sharing something so painful so openly. I hope you have been able to heal from this horrific and disgusting trauma that you went through.
No punishment is enough for those motherfuckers. In my opinion doing this to someone is even worse than murdering someone. Because you forced them to live for the rest of their lives with the horrible memories of what you did to them.
Breaks my heart, I'm so furious non of them were charged with anything 😠
The Journalist, Tazeen Ahmad, sadly died of cancer in November last year, aged 48. RIP.
janan sheren why good? She’s reporting on something that’s criminal and been going for decades..I’m guessing your from an Islam background
@@mun33y yeah exactly., he obviously is.
mun33y wdym “islam background” r u good that’s racist asf to us Muslims 😒
Crackhead Tania well they were all Muslims so it’s accurate. No-one cares if you think it’s racist, it’s the facts.
@@Taniajannath26 "Muslims" is not a race. It's simply a choice you made-- to believe in that ideology.
If an entire culture views women as less than, what do you expect? Somewhere along the line people forgot that we don't train our kids for our selves, but for the world. Mothers need to teach their sons that women matter and fathers need to teach by example respect your wives, and don't treat your daughter as lesser than the son.
This world is rotting
Rotten
It's rotten and rotting. Rotten things can keep rotting further. We're all watching the world as it's rotting.
Exactly
The world has always been like that.
It's been happening now everyone knows about it that's the only difference
Everyone has failed according to the father, except for him, he didn't fail to raise decent men. Your view on women was definitely passed on to your sons and that is the result,
Blaming the girls for being out at 11 at night is not an evasion of moral responsibility. It does not in any way excuse grooming. Besides which, these gangs hang around outside schools in the afternoon. They are predators regardless of the time.
"stealing has more consequences" when he said that I felt sick. It shouldn't be this way. There should be maximum consequences for raping a child. Wtf is wrong with this world and why aren't our most vulnerable protected like they should be? 😢
The most vulnerable are babies being aborted by the thousands in western nations. But l very you're point too.
Overly PC Culture. The cops have said that they were afraid of being called racists. They didn't want to lose their jobs. It's amazing how many of the cops know about it and choose to keep a blind eye. Some cops have lost their jobs, but many of the still remain working the same areas to this day.
@@Nytephyre this is EDL rhetoric, data is inconclusive. There is a problem but it isn't wide spread. These men aren't convicted because cops are scared of being called racist, not much can stop a policeman from carrying out his duty. Its due to lack of evidence, it's a he said she said situation. And a lot of the victims dont think or feel like victims. Did you even bother listening to the documentary? This was spoon fed to you
itll always be this way cos raping someone doesnt hurt the government where it really hurts them. in there pockets
Because Islam is a backwards culture and not of God
Are we really going to believe that these girls were neglected by their parents, ignored by the Police, ignored by the Social Services, ignored by Elected Politicians and eventually called thrown into the gutter by the judicial system. I hold my head in shame for those that have let these children down.
Close your gate for migration send them back to there country I think the queen should be aware for this
@@happinessjagavi8808there country... ironic.
Scared to be called a racist, so do nothing and let these little girls down every single day. I think people need to get their priorities right.
Shame on the whole political correctness circus.....this is the result.
Sikh Scythian . ? None of these are 'my' people? I don't get your point?
Alison Lee My point is that this is propoganda and that is why white boys need to start EDL, national front, and the bnp, they hate seeing white women with Pakistani men. They hate seeing white women convert to Islam.
Sikh Scythian. I'm white....my fiancé is Sikh...... I will become Singh Sahota next year. People hate us too.....
Alison Lee yes I hate Sikhs also, I troll with this name on purpose
Sikh Scythian. Well that's a shame.
I am 15 years old and pretty much everyday I have specificlly Pakistani men adding me, I'm like *NOPE*
keep it up - 20's life is so much more interesting than teens as long as people don't buy into crap like this. study, acquire discipline and some work experience
Same
When I was 12 years old the same used to happen
i feel for you sister, we are with you
Pray you never have to attend *"Catholic schools"* under any such ministry!
You will most vehemently be passed off?
Are people even TRYING to stop this? Or are they just sitting back taking no action? Where is the outrage???
It's there, but it's often silenced. Look at what the government did to Tommy Robinson for trying to bring this to light and stop it. Everyone is too afraid of being labeled a racist so they turn a blind eye. There are plenty of British patriots who are trying to bring attention to this issue and more is being learned about it.
In the UK you can't take any action against this. You will be branded a racist and charged with hate speech. The police would sooner arrest YOU than the child rapists. It has become a part of the culture there now. If you have a young daughter and you live in a 'multicultural' neighborhood be prepared to move.
Oh, there's outrage. Sadly, many councils have utterly failed the girls. Rotherham and Rochdale councils (along others) behaved appallingly. The girls had been coming forward for years and they were just ignored
mostly covered-up by Labour councils who rely on the muslim vote....they brand anyone who calls-out this disgrace as 'r@cist'---------- a word rendered meaningless by overuse and misuse...........these pervs should be neutered then deported in a sinking ship
Shhhhh Don't talk about this You're Islamophobic.
While giving the victims a voice is important, it would be just as important to address the root cause - Pakistani culture, specifically towards women. And how it could carry over no matter what country they live in. Please do a documentary on this.
To watch that lass, watch her own taped interview is heartrenching. You can see the fear and hurt in her eyes 💔. Brave girl.
Jayd h hi
@@mirzabilal930 piss off pervert
@@mirzabilal930 Dude, recognise the content of the video.
Mirza Bilal you disgusting freak
@@alinaknox5773
We will target you
If happened to their sister they would go mad.
They are shagging their sisters so i dont think so .
They’d be offended because someone messed w their propriety and pride, not because of the suffering of their sisters.
If it happened to their sisters, according to sharia law, they could stone their sisters to death for being raped and out late at night talking to men. So that’s not really a relevant way of reasoning.
Wtf
@@cathyabril8615 yeah, this is complete bullshit. You are fake news
Put these men down, they have no right to live. If they are doing this as an organised crime they are beyond the point that they could ever change
yes, put the down - humane euthanasia as soon as possible to save taxpayers money.
No wonder people become vigilantes and take things into their own hands. I have a daughter, if this happened to her. Not sure if these people would still be walking the planet. It would be taken 4
Me too. How this justice has not been metered out is beyond me!
Disgusting
Truly.
The saddest part was the young men she interviewed thought it was all a joke, you seen them laughing and kidding around. Not sure what English prisons are like, but if enough of these guys are getting out perhaps they need to be sent to American prisons. This is another thing that demonstrates the English government’s inability to control their country, this should be addressed and dealt with in the most severe of manner. This is not an ethnic or racial issue it is an issue of men abusing children. Being a man this makes me not only angry but embarrassed of my gendermates.
These women were children when they were abused, and thus, it shouldn't be up to them to see themselves as victims and press charges, but up to there parents. It makes me sick what has happened to them, and even more sick they haven't received justice.
So true. I hate that women will get arrested and prison time for prostitution since a majority of them are forced into this sex slavery and forced to work or they will die. And yet they get punished? And to think some people want to legalize prostitution which will only increase the slavery.. It's a gross world we live in.
Legalising prostitution would prevent women from being arrested and getting prison time. It would also reduce the number of women forced into prostitution, because often when prostitution is legalised it's confined to licensed brothels, which can be heavily regulated, women would need to present proof of age and if there's any sign they're being forced into it police can get involved. Meanwhile this would reduce the profit motive for pimps to illegally force women into prostitution because clients would have an alternative to picking up prostitutes from the street.
***** I agree, that was my point, legalising it's the best way to protect people.
Dale A. No point in Blaming muslims alltogether.
besmb2105
I should have been clear I'm speaking of immigration on that.....peace
Until Britain introduces stiff penalties for this type of crime and drives the point home that this sort of behavoiur is not acceptable on British soil, nothing will change. Men coming into Western countries need to be educated that you are expected to respect the girls and women you coexist with. End of story.
Death penalty is the only answer to these crimes
It's not only the penalties. Many studies have shown that more severe punishments doesn't impact wether or not someone commits a crime or not.
Same problem all over Europe. The same is happening in Spain, Portugal, France, Italy, etc.
@Pop_ Eye yes
Every where lots of Muslims are immigrating to
Jyot Purohit do not lie. Most perpetrators aren’t muslims. Certainly not in Portugal where there isn’t barely any muslims. Hope you are as shocked with the crimes of the catholic church.
Wow man Pakistani are enjoying lmao
@@claudiabelchior7531 well... The Catholic Church Does wrong things down here in India too. We Hindus have suffered a lot because of both abrahamic religions... so just warning your country
One must really admire the good people fighting against this problem, and we should all support their efforts.
I agree
I am helping a Dutch girl right now. It takes a lot of patience, but she is making progress. They get them hooked on drugs and threaten them with violence. It's a vicious cycle. And they ruin their lives to a degree. The girls become numb.
@@ADUAquascaping You know, that makes you a hero in my eyes. We are at our very best when we turn to another human who is struggling and we hold out a hand. Hold it out, urge them to take it and promise not to let go till they are out of the dark.
@@teslagirl1 I usually don't say anything because I really don't want to identify my EGO with being a hero. I just feel she needs help and we met for a reason. She just started telling me everything and needs help. Her boyfriend is also helping her, and he helped her go to the police. I told her that I will never give up on her. She still has a lot of trauma and relapses often, but I remind her who she was before all of this happened, and I don't blame her for her behavior.
I think the main issue is that only 25-30% of girls and women report their rapes and only 1% or so end up with a conviction. After doing a lot of research, running the statistics, and going to some awareness events, I see how we do live in a rape culture. It really breaks my heart that certain men perpetuate this violence. Maybe because they are underdeveloped in regards to understanding the feminine, or they were abused themselves, or simply indulging in evil. We definitely need to change society however. I am willing to do whatever I can to help. There is a lot of dark in the world, and of course a lot of light. I was always kept up at night thinking about this kind of thing and I felt the urge to start bringing awareness to what is going on, and then by chance we met and we started talking. She began dropping little hints, which I picked up on. It took a long time for her to open up about almost everything. I don't consider it lying on her part because she doesn't know who to trust. You are actually the very first person I have told about this situation. I guess I needed to vent about it all because it can be pretty heavy at times. But for some reason I can handle the burden. Stay safe and stay strong! ❤️
@@ADUAquascaping I am glad you said something. People NEED to have examples of how a decent human being SHOULD act. And some people need that kick to their conscience to motivate them to actually help...lots of people are great about expressing sympathy remotely...and will talk about how wrong such abuse is...but when it is RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEM, they just look away and won't get involved. Not even after the fact, when a victim struggling with trauma and sometimes life changing injuries or health problems that resulted from what occurred, is in desperate need of a helping hand... a hand they are perfectly capable of extending, resources they can easily spare. I know a lady who buys comfortable but nice looking clothes and underthings, easy to get on and very soft, to bring to the hospital for rape and assault victims or trafficking victims to wear home. Some don't have family to ask...some come from families who hurt them...there are lots of reasons that there is no one to call on or a reason not to, reasons a girl needs these clothes. And the easy to get on part helps the badly injured who don't want help getting it on. I've helped her choose items, deliver them, even done a quick little needle and thread work by hand when something needed a slight adjustment. It's a small thing, but it's also a much needed one. Not every hospital has donated clothes or a charity that works with them to provide same when called on, and few that do make such good choices in the garments provided. These items were SO soft, so easy to put on...and there were slip on tennis shoes or flats to go with them. After what happened to them...and their ER and police experience...and finally getting to have a thorough wash and shampoo...sometimes additional days in the hospital for their injuries or a need for observation due to a head injury...getting new, nice clothes so they could go home with a little basic human dignity helped restore a tiny bit of each woman's equilibrium. For one girl, raped the day she aged out of foster care by a relative of her foster father, a man who wanted to traffic her, the clothes we brought her were the only clothes she had ever worn which were new...ditto with the shoes. Peg found her a safer place than the one she was living in...a room with a family. They saw to it she got to therapy appointments, arranged her to attend an i.t. program in a local community college, and gave her a wage for being a part time mother's helper. Today she's fully independent and thriving...but she says her new life began with putting on those new clothes.
I grew up around Pakistanis and Indians. Indians would always get really upset if you confused them for Pakistani, I now understand why. Why is it that the Pakistanis I went to school with still all live with their parents at 30+ years old but yet drive £50K luxury cars and always have the latest phone/Rolex?
I know this is a huge generalization but I notice it all the time pretty much exclusively with Pakistanis and Arabs, its all about show and the illusion of success, or maybe picking up under-aged girls as I can only assume they would be the only ones gullible enough to fall for it.
Indians generally invest in businesses and education, I have allot more respect for that. Very different people indeed.
yeah bro you gotta problem with my style? innit bro?
+Sikh Scythian LMFAO
your princess diana fell for our ride
+Sikh Scythian I've heard that twice now. What does this Diana thing mean? Is that a migrant inside joke or something?
Olivia Harris even Lauren booth and Britney spears too
If this is what they do in Britain, i can't even imagine what they do in Pakistan!
Disgusting!
There was a documentary i watched showing how they rape young boys in Pakistan. It's horrific
@@Tlani_k You mean Afghanistan
@@bitTorrenter nope. Pakistan
@@Tlani_k I think I watched the same one - little orphan boys picked up off the streets?
In Pakistan they do Baccha baazi. I was also assaulted when I was a boy. Glad I left the disgusting country and vile religion
At 16 a 13yr old girl initiated sexual activity with me. As an adult (just) I knew it was wrong and although given the opportunity it went no further. How can these 'adult' men turn the blame on these undeveloped girls. It's wrong. End of...
Because it is one thing for the lion to hunt the gazelle, it is another for the gazelle to go to the lion's den. The lion will eat the gazelle in either case, and the lion does not care whether it is this gazelle or that gazelle, whichever is the easiest hunt.
Do not mistake the men's criticism of the gazelle going to the lion's den for celebration of the lion eating the gazelle.
Men are simple creatures, for us, the easiest way to protect our young and make sure they're not eaten is to make sure they're not the easiest to hunt (because we cannot be there to protect them every minute of every day).
Until the end of humanity, there will be lions, and the lions will always hunt and eat gazelles.
You weren’t an adult at 16. But even under 18, you’re right. Because there’s a 2.5 age difference law, when both parties are under 18, or something like that.
@@goldblade84 i don't know about gazelles but you are surely late for dinner, BAT-EATER. Go to a dark cave and have your dinner🦇🦇. Wumao
That father!!!
Blaming the girls’ parents! Disgraceful.
What about him as a parent?
Using his standard:
How did he fail his sons and bring them up to be pedophile rapists!!!
How is it far-right to be against children being raped!
And why do they get approached when walking home from school! Should they not be allowed out then either? Picked up and driven straight home by a parent and locked up .... Might as well eh?! Seems safer
In other words, become a replica of Pakistani (or Saudi) society... we'll finally get to the point where females of all ages cannot leave home without a male escort. Sounds about right?
I agree... resistance to this behavior & lawlessness is not "far right"... I am "left". Freedom includes freedom of movement & security in one's personal safety. Without this, other freedoms are non-existent... freedom of speech, association, etc. After that's gone, what happens to democracy? It cannot exist either... at least for women. Neo-liberalism is taking us economically back to feudalism... and apparently politically correct "tolerance" is taking us socially back to the Dark Ages.
If your anti muslim …….your far right . Funny that isn't it as the authorities knew yet did nothing until it was exposed and they had to do some thing .
Against children being raped: Far-right.
Want children to be raped: Far-wrong.
Wow. Just wow.... I feel physically sick, I want to throw up. Someone else commented too I read but seriously guys we HAVE to do WHATEVER it takes to protect our children! They are our most precious resources... And good God SO many are suffering 😥
It obviously isn't but I think that it was pointed out simply because far-right types will use the fact that some gangs have been shown to be non-white in their hate-spreading.
Oh that dad with 2 sons in jail found it so easy to blame the girls parents, where is his responsibility for his sons behaviour!
the dad failed as a parent.
some of the mothers are pretty failed too
He didn't failed as a parent ,they are the way he wanted them to be (after himself only). He failed as a HUMAN.
But He passed as a Pakistani
This is disgusting I don't care what you are or were you came from point blank period!
First logical point here.
Exactly it happens anywhere by anyone and they all are evil 🤬
Pommie bears but white English men do it aswell? But people don’t ever talk about it
Yes this!! Don’t use this as an excuse to be racist or a bigot
Just for following the man`s logic (who is speaking in the film from 30:00 ) for example:
If at 2 am a naked 13 year old girl is on the middle of the street and a 30 year old man is raping her, it is the girls fault?
I do not think so.
Even if this unbelievable case would happen, the 30 year old man should ask her if is everything okay? (I guess not) Where are her parents, what happened? And he could take his coat and wrap it around her and take her to a police station. That is what a mature man would do.
Chloe is absolutely amazing, u can tell shes super strong all things considered, and she still has a kind smile, whoever would do this is despicable
Maybe making young girls aware of this in schools? It's appalling. I cannot bare to think that this could happen to my daughter's. And the idea that nobody was prosecuted for this makes my bloody boil.
Nah! feminists would say "it is forcing girls to learn to behave, but it's the boys who should learn to be respectful to girls".
And leftists liberals will say "it is racist against South Asians".
So never gonna happen.
This prompted me to start the conversation with my 11 ( girl) and 13 (boy) yr old
I’m a social worker who’s spent almost 20 yrs working with survivors, I’ve had to many conversations/interactions/counseling sessions/ court appearances (testimony)… but I was still propelled to have the most frank discussion I’ve had to date with my kids
Attention parents/ loved ones of kids/teenagers HAVE THE CONVERSATION NOW!!!
@allen Mackenzie they done another advert to show in schools but with white boys , it defeated the object and it also painted white boys in a bad light , the girls are going to look out for white boys but not for Pakistani grooming gangs , what a joke pathetic.
Our punishments aren’t severe. Not only do we need to teach young girls exactly how they may be manipulated but increase the severity of the punishment that people won’t think twice before doing something bad. - I hope no one’s daughter has to go through this🙏🏼
These girls will always be in my prayers, they’re honestly scarred for life - I don’t understand how anyone can be turned on by this😭
We also need to have a reliable police force that actually investigates crimes. We can have the toughest punishments but without a reliable police force no prosecution is ever going to get started. And as long as the offenders know that the police is afraid to investigate their crimes, they do not need to be concerned about potential punishments.
Three girls on bbc is worth a watch so brilliantly done when everyone clapped in the court room I joined in and sobbed. Brave girls.
How indian peoples behave in UK
Jaymal Modhvadiya says the Indian.
Pakistani brit
I also watched that, it was very well done, so brave of the Victims, just like the one's in this Documentary, sad that so many people let them down.
Chloe's abusers have never been prosecuted?!? R u kidding me?!
Thousands of white working class girls targeted, only a few prosecutions. They have got away with this for decades - it was even covered in Rita, Sue & Bob too & Andrea Dunbar had written about it even in the 1970's & herself was pregnant by Pakistani men when she was underage, she was in Keighley one of the central areas in all this, she never saw 30, her children becames addicts, her grandchild died, its as grim as it gets x
Rita Sue and bob too is a comedy I don’t think this should be treated as such .@lady love
Hearing her describe what had happened and watching the lasting effect just broke my heart. Do these people just not have any humanity? Do they not care about the effect it has on others? I find it mind boggling.
Its islam. Bred into them from birth
Nope selfish pedophile s
@anon google account nope they don't
Why did people wait for the police to do something? If they had done this to me, my dad and my uncles and a few buddies would have had a little talk with whoever was doing it to me. And I don't think they would have survived to go and complain to the police about " racism".
Most of the victims comes from broken families. They ddidnt have loving dads or uncles like you have
@Telive Qwenton Widely reported in the media at that time.
@Telive Qwenton where?
@Telive Qwenton Search up the meaning of broken families
That´s the only way.
The mindset of some of these people is ridiculous. "it's the victim's fault"
If the Pakistani community in Britain as a whole doesn't want to be blamed for this then that community itself needs to step up and end this... Until they do that it is the entire community's fault
💯
They need to be deported any that are criminals
Let's call this what it is - another sick growing cultural specific sexual violence of child girls. These men need to be socialized into respecting women. If they can't or won't adopt then harsh consequences need to be enforced. Another most excellent documentary. Many thanks for posting. Loving ALL the videos you post.
Then you haven't researched very well. And facts are facts.
Socialized?? How is that going to happen exactly?
Socialized? Oh yeah, cause teaching people not to murder or steal is working SO well :)
EDUCATION
And your research comes from where?
there's...a lot of victim blaming....
Rapists and molesters are like that. They have no empathy for their victims at all and are more worried about if they'll get caught. They don't consider their victims to be "people", just things. So when they do get caught, they act as if they didn't do something bad. Kind of like children that know better when they do bad, but don't care and try to get you to sympathize with them so they don't get a severe punishment.
***** My princess Diana?? Last I checked, I didn't own anybody, especially a dead woman. Why are you talking about her sex life?? I was talking about sexual predators and how they treat their victims.
***** and what exactly are you getting at?
***** Bro, I didn't ask about your personal life nor do I care. I'm done talking to you.
Pakistani gangster
0:49 "And with most convicted men PAKISTANI....".
Don't call them Asians .. call them Pakistani
all these predators mounters pakista..s or other asia..s should be deported to their country of origin with all their families forever
It's is amazing when the Pakistani parents talk about this subject they never say Pakistani problem, it's alway Asian Problem but we don't have this problem in any other Asian youngters like Indians, Sri Lankan, or Asian from any other country it alway Pakistani so why say Asian? .
You do have that problem in India. Women being ganged raped. It’s a huge issue.
@@nicolesmith5240 india is a huge country of 1.3 billion people,there will be cases of rape here and there which is bad...add to that western media especially bbc ,nyt,etc were always hinduphobic and racistic towards india
@@Aidahassan1 Jyoti issue happened so rape issue is big???do you know the frequency of sexual assaults in USA ,Brazil etc?? grooming gangs in UK??rapes and sexual assault is an issue in India but do not make it a huge issue only in India and other countries are heaven for them... western media glorifies rapes to such an extent that people feel that India is very unsafe for women...thats not the case...stop feeding biased racist Western media dude ...just calculate the assaults of USA and India if they are same population and you will understand the difference...
@@nicolesmith5240 here also that special commentity dosen't fail to amaze you.
We have Indian version of it called the Love jihad.
@@nicolesmith5240 You are an absolute buffon as you can't even read and comprehend. He was talking about people of Indians,Sri Lankans descent living in U.K.
Gross I hate humanity
I don’t understand how we can have exactly the same thing across so many towns? I think it’s about 20 different places, maybe more.
I don’t understand why the authorities have turned a blind eye to this?
I don’t understand why this is being hushed up? Or why the Muslim communities have allowed this, because it’s obviously broadly known about?
Unbelievable that whole communities would allow and encourage this?
That's what happens in an overly PC place. The cops have even said they knew, but were afraid of being called racists if they stopped it. They didn't want to lose their jobs. It's looking like to criticize someone who isn't white or to arrest someone for a crime is now automatically called racist.
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Blaming a child who is a victim of rape is not only ridiculous but genuinely disgusting
Grateful for documentaries like this--helps us gaurd our daughters and help shield others women from such harm
Kind of siding with the far right on this one
The far right are the ones manipulating the issue to blame it on Islam which isn't the issue. These groomers are the ones going against Islam if you didn't know but the far right will refuse to see that.
I don’t know much about Islam, but I am a Christian, and there are quite a large number of men who claim to be Christian who sexually abuse children. I think these people intentionally use religion in order to gain trust. Extremely sad.
This is so disgusting, especially how they speak of their exploits without remorse. Like this shit is normal or something. Smh
These Muslim men have been doing this to children for centuries.
May the Lord give courage to all those girls 🕉
Please don't break anyone soul
As someone that has been raped. . . nope your damaged for life
Parents, PLEASE talk to your kids❗️Make SURE they know that this exists, how to resist it , and if - God forbid - it happens, that MUST come to their parents.
This has EVERYTHING to do with CULTURE!
NOT RACE!!!! FFS
Best comment so far in my opinion. We need to cultivate good culture. And it is the parents who must initiate that from a very young age. I don't think the parents from "that" community will give importance to culture.
Pakistani here, completely agree
Bem Fawkes Its culture and religion yes , lets not forget the religion part as this happens in most muslim countries . How ever it is mostly Pakistani men which are doing this and that is a fact . You seem upset about peoples anger on here , far more than what has been done to these poor girls or maybe I just miss understood what you mean ? .
Culture comes from race. There is a white european culture, a Japanese culture, etc.
In this case it has to do with race. Why white Britain girls and not muslim girls? Those Pakistani were racists to the white girls.
The victim blaming makes me sick.
These women are so strong💞 this isn't easy. Every women that I know, my close friends, about 80% have been raped and/or assaulted and it's been a recurring experience for about 90% of those women. These women are so strong. I hope she has found what she needs to recover and grow from this.
80% that´s a lot....
Same
@@friedose4099 1 in 4 women are sexually abused before they even turn 16. It really just isn’t safe to be a woman
its a problem of cultural mismatch, most of these groomers are from countries where women even girl child is kept all covered and no respect whatsoever is given to the females of the family,The kind of freedom that females in Europe , Britain and US enjoy is simply not acceptable to these people and that is the reason even the father of the groomer blames the system, victims.
supposedly India is one of the rape capitals of the world. Hindus blame Muslims for that, but it is probably both of them - though more Muslims do it, I have no doubt. Pakistan used to be part of India.
Westerners need to stop making "being judgmental" a bad thing, since it is really just "using your better judgment".
Totally agree. They see Western women as loose and therefore to blame for being abused and raped. Because we don't wear hijabs, travel alone and have basic human freedoms.
BTW, rest in peace Tazeen. You were warrior in every way. God bless you.
What kind of cancer was it? I wonder if she was assassinated.
Several years ago, 3/4 years, I read where 89,000 children disappeared in Britain and no one ask who, where or why?
Wait, wait... that father just basically blamed EVERYONE apart from his sons... wowow!! Ignorance at its best, honestly!!!!
He's disgusting
Hearing that first poor girl’s story makes my heart ache.
Pretty sure alcohol fornication and tattoos are not accepted in islam
jim ponting in
True. Islam stands for discrimination, sexism, torturing, paedophilia and slavery. Anyone supporting this deserves death themselves.
Good one
Islam forbids alcohol, fornication and tattoos.
If these were Chinese rape gangs targeting Pakistani children.
The Pakistanis would be going apeshit and screaming " its a Chinese problem".
But saying it's a Pakistani problem is a no no.
Bottom line. Laws in UK need to be stricter. US has strict laws and this would never fly here. Look up sentence terms in UK vs US.
SL1200MK I agree with u It’s so true
Yes, when rules and laws not working than baseball bat was work well for break legs,
The guy at the 35 minute mark has my respect. He seems well spoken and insightful.
I lived in London for 4 years (im from Hungary) and one time I needed to go home with taxi because we worked in the restaurant until late night (at the time I was 22 years old), so the driver was very nice to me, asking some things, like where do i from, how old i am, do i like to live here.... etc etc. He was 40 something years old. I quickly said I live with my boyfriend, just to be sure. (I really did) and he still speak with me a lot, and in the end of the ride he said just call him anytime I want, he give me rides, no problems, we are friends. And we need friends in this country, because also he is from another country, (i dont remember where pakistani maybe). and just give him a call of i need, or if i just want to speak with somebody....
I was naive person always, but not that much, so I told my boyfriend what happened and he wanted to call him and have a little chat with him, but i said no, like lets not make him angry, who knows if he is alone or not (i dont think so).
But I was so afraid that he did actually know where I lived. But thanks God nothing happened.
If I look back now, maybe I would turn to the police, and give his number to them. Even if actually he didnt do nothing, and who knows, maybe he just wanted to be my friend. ..... Sure.
The amount of victimblaming in this just astounds me. I am absolutely disgusted.
"Do we blame the parents or the victim?" - Every Pakistani
Samuel Hall If the parents excuse their offspring who are rapists, perhaps the parents should also face the punishments.
Samuel Hall what under age girls out at night where is the parents in all of this
Pakistani Emirati No punctuation. Appalling English.
Parents are negligent to busy caught up in their own life to focus on their children not saying every parent is like it bit some just aint arsed they never seem to spot signs or check ask where they are or are going it royals me
They also have massive inbreeding problems, so i don't know why people listen to them
Education, understanding and stop blaming the victim is the key. God bless all who is suffering xx
Being a Pakistani I am ashamed to hear that.. I don't expect this from British Pakistanis 🇵🇰 to lay down 👇 thier Country name.
Gosh !! This father has such narrowed mind set ... he forgets he failed his sons too!!