I too have to agree with many of the comments here that there are a lot (TONS) of videos out there that are either conflicting, confusing, wrong or all together bad so thank you for being clear concise and on point. Well done. Coming from a long line of Audi S4...I just bought my first ever subaru (2021 WRX Limited) and the ride so far is almost too much fun. The thought of what is to come next is beyond exciting. Thanks so much for putting this out there. Good stuff. [insert goofy happy as a clam emoji here]...
Your video it’s exactly what I needed. I have a 2020 STI deadstock. Just got my accessport and since planning on keeping it stock for sometime just went to a pro tuner and I’m super happy with the results. I was gonna go OTS maps but did follow your advise going to pro tuner. Makes a lot of sense. Thanks man.
As a recently new Ford Focus RS owner. I appreciate your video. I'm new to the whole turbo scene. and don't know what to do and what not to do. thank you very much!
Nice video man. Your comment about older wrx's being more tolerant to OTS maps is correct. Mine is a 2002 with a perrin intake and tbe but hardly any feedback knock or fine learning. It does occur sometimes, but for a split second and always back to 0. It never happens on WOT. My DAM has always been 16
Good video. I got a Cobb AP when they first came out (had to wait) in 2004. Ran Stage 1 ots on my wrx from ‘04-‘17, except when I ran Stage 2 ots with a catted dp. Never had an issue. That said, I had no other mods, and the stage 2 downpipe was a bellmouth design required by Cobb. Been running Cobb Stage 1 ots on my 2010 STi for last 2 years. Car is bone stock. The tune didn’t add any noticeable power gains, but it did get me much smoother and consistent throttle response and overall much better driveability. Stock, my car’s turbo would not have smooth power delivery. It was frustrating to drive. I bought the car used, from original owner, and it was bone stock - not returned to stock. Never modded. Thought about holding off on the tune but in less than a week, I ordered an AP and tuned Stage 1, 91 CA gas tune. Runs great now. Gotta figure these cars leave the factory with an oem ots tune. A custom tune will get best results, if you find a tuner you can trust - but I find the Cobb ots tunes fine if you are only modded to what they say for the tune. It’s typically a conservative tune too - you’ll get better results from a custom tune if you want to go that route, but I don’t bounce my car off the rev limiter. I drive conservatively, knowing I have the hp to move when I need to. (ok, sometimes I lay into it just for fun... but never have launched the car from a dead stop)
I'm from the VW/Audi world but the downpipe thing is interesting because, at least for our cars, nearly every OTS stage 2 tune tells you an upgraded cat/catless downpipe is needed.
Totally anecdotal, but my STI had ringland failure on cyl 4 with Stage 1+ SF tune with just a Cobb intake & Nameless catback after several months. SOA agreed to replace the motor after the investigation and working with the dealer. Put the stock airbox back on the car after, and waiting until I have more funds for some more mods before a protune. Great video man and excellent advice.
@@Smeedia yup, Subaru of Wichita was very helpful in working through the process. They also mentioned that being part of the local Subaru community helped my case.
A friend of mine got the same issue on his 2019 STI, never tuned and less than 10k miles.. SOA did investigate and replaced his engine.. this was a weird one for sure..
Kelbaez no doubt... mine is a 2016. Glad he got it covered! Definitely less to discuss with if no mods, but they also look for signs of abuse or racing too.
yes I've been researching this for weeks now!! but you nailed it for me thank you!!! I'm in Wisconsin and the weather here is screwy all the time. giving me weird numbers drive after drive I'm going for a custom tune soon.
Awesome video! Picked up my first WRX (2006) last year and have been slowly adding modifications. Planning on going stage 2 soon and this video helped me understand OTS maps vs pro tuning and the risks involved. Thanks so much!
Great video, I have my car with a tomei and bypass only I want to get an AP but I’m still under warranty can I still get it just to monitor my dam, knock and all those without void my warranty??
I just bought a 2015 WRX, and the previous owner already had a stage 2 +big sf COBB tune all ready to go. He had it catless and the dealership couldn't sell it without putting cats on. Then I learned, like you said in the video, I should look up what parts the COBB tune asks for. Now, I have to get it in the shop to put high flow cats on, cause the dealership ones aren't cutting it. I'm afraid to let loose with it not having the right parts.
Great video brother! Bought my first STI back in June and I love watching your videos. Just today I bought a new exhaust and I’m planning on getting a COBB intake with their OTS map. My concern so far is that I don’t want my car to be acting weird until I get a proper tune.
Good advice bro, I want to get my car down to AWD Performance but haven't had the time.... three years later... yeah so, I'm still on that OTS map, lolz. Keep up the good content dude!
I came across your video today. I purchased a 2019 WRX with COBB mods on it already including Catback exhausts. I am currently seeking a COBB accessport to find out the amount of tuning on the car if any.
I’m new to Subarus. What tune would you need for an intake downpipe? Do you pay for a pro tune after installing parts? How do you e tune. If there’s no ots map for downpipes. I can’t find anything, I’m also a noob! Someone give me a answer lol
Hey brother nice video..just bought 15 sti with 100k it has Cobb intake exhaust..not sure what kind yet..has burnt blue tips and maybe some other modes but not sure since bought from dealer..no accesport was with car but I have one..I was told on wrx that once I did big sf intake I needed to use that map selection or engine light may turn on..this sti has no engine light and don't know if it's been pro tuned..should I try accessport?
so i just got a 2020 wrx and it came with a cobb intercooler and cobb intake and charge pipe aswell as an exhaust...should i go accessport or pro tune?
This video is very helpful thank you . Just got a lapis blue pearl 18 Sti car came with borla cbe and Cobb intake and no AP . Original owner says he never had a AP or tune according to salesman as I ask him to call him to verify . Knowing me cobb intake no tune freak me out bought a AP , waiting for my laptop to get here this week . My question is I’m not planning on doing anymore mods besides buying a Cobb air box since the car only has the Cobb intake . What map should I run ? Stage 1 or 1 + . Car has Cobb intake ( buying airbox soon) and borla exhaust)
I have a OTS tune. APR. It was flawless stage 1 but when I went IS20 tubo with tune I started having high rpm WOT misfires. This is for 2015 VW golf 1.8T FWD auto. I'm still trying to figure it out or find a better suited option.
i have a 2016 wrx premium and i am new to cars. my car feels like it has a powerband and it hesitates when im around 4k rpm and once it gets to abt 5k rpm it flys. how to i fix this? I am running stage 2 frn 91oct
I’ve got a mk7 GLI, with all FBO’s. Got COBB AP. I’m probably going to run the OTS for a little until I get a chance to get a pro tune done. I’ve already checked the map notes. I think I should be good for a little. But thanks for explaining how everything is.
@@Smeedia loving it so much. Rides so nicely and pretty fast. Love all the features it has. And the best it surprising people on how fast it actually is. Also it’s an automatic so I got the DSG ;)
i just got a v3 accessport for my 2011 wrx. I have a stock air box (with a k n n air box filter) and a stock downpipe with a custom exhaust job. what tune should i use OTS on my accessport?
question my car is stock i have a tuner in my area local to me, do i even need to get a accessport?? i understand that your buying a off the shelf tune and download it to the ecu, but isnt that what those tuners do from there own computer,create a tune and download it to the ecu,i coud be totally wrong here to learn ;) just curious could save me money?
I'm one of those guys who's been using the OTS tune for years with good results so far with my 2018 WRX. Using the Cobb stage 0 93 OCT no mods. If I was to start modding I would start with a catback exhaust (stage 2). At that point I think I'd probably spring for a pro tune, from what I've heard the Cobb OTS tune is not that great once you start doing serious mods.
You need a TURBO BACK exhaust to run Stage 2. A catback doesn’t change the hp. That said, I’m not familiar with mods on the FA engine, but stage 2 has always required a downpipe (J pipe on the FA?).
@@stephen3164 You're correct. To push power on these cars you need a J Pipe. Catbacks and axlebacks do not need a tune. (As per Smeedia, and many others.)
If you buy a used WRX and it doesn't have the AccessPort is there a way to know or tell if a tune has been added? Also, are there other Access Ports besides Cobb?
Hey, I have an 06 WRX with stage 2 mods from previous owner. Sti intercooler, catless downpipe and catback exhaust. I’ve been driving the car for 1200 miles over the course of 3 months and it’s been running smooth. My butt dyno was telling me that it was probably open sourced tune since it was running rich and smooth from what I felt. I’m getting an accessort this weekend to play it safe and to monitor feedback. Will the Cobb stage 2 OTS tune work with my setup until I’m ready to get etune ?
Tan-man, just cracked open the AP. This video is really valuable & clear. You are building a library of helpful knowledge. Thanks Man! Ur car looks great in that color.
OTS maps are fine for the basic mods as long as your using Cobb products, but your not going to see better performance. With a protune there's a noticible difference in power as the tuner can make the map more aggressive.
Might sound dumb just getting into this but if I start with a OTS tune and go to a pro tune can u still leave the access port plugged in to monitor everything or does it mess up the tune.
Just got a 2020 wrx. Only planning on putting air intake and cat back. Will OTS be good...I drive lots of highway miles. Liken it stuff man. I'm brand new to this stuff
Really good video! Quesiton regarding the stage 2 you mentioned. Is that strictly just adding a downpipe? Or is that downpipe, catback, and the intake? Got some coming in, and want to make sure i dont upload the wrong ots. Befote i get a pro tune.
Right now I have a 2016 Lexus IS 200t f sport and I'm running a HPS air intake, ark exhaust, downpipe, HPS charge pipe, and a racechip gets tuning box, do you think I'm better off switching to a high flow catalytic converters ? Also if I do switch to a high flow catalytic converter will my cel go on? Will I be able to pass emissions?
I recently bought an 2020 STI, I was watching all your videos but I’m not sure what I need. Is my daily drive but I’m a little disappointed of the stock performance so I would like to install an exhaust, air filter, blow off valve and I’m assuming a pro tune. Could you help me? What will you suggest?
Could I run a grimmspeed intake with a cobb stage 1+ ots tune? And do you know of any good protuners around the Spokane area, because I’m from Northern Idaho.
my question is, will Cobbs OTS maps compensate for things like, say, if you happen to get a tank of "bad gas" completely unbeknownst to you, like the stock tune will just in order to keep things safe? very curious, thanks!
@@Smeedia gotcha! thank you, i appreciate your reply. to add, i have a 2021 STi and im thinking of eventually going with cobbs stage 1 + kit (AP with SF intake and box, and running their matching appropriate map of 93 octane & normal waste gate. i can readily get 93 octane from a top tier fuel station where i live) i already have a crawford V3 AOS and the GetaDomTune Cylinder 4 coolant hose mod. i dont drive the pants off the car, and i dont track it, just want the induction and turbo noises, to add, and do 2000 mile oil & filter changes (overkill i know, but the sti is also my 2nd vehicle). but, in your opinion , do i need any further supporting mods to completely safely run the cobb stage 1 + with my desired map? like, should i get a killer b pickup tube or perrin oil cooler, and koyo radiator because im now asking for more of the car? or is the stock stuff sufficient to handle the intake and tune with my already installed AOS and Cylinder 4 mod. thanks in advance. would appreciate your input
@@kcm732 bro im in the same boat, 2021 sti limited, and want turbo sounds. honestly it is easy to revert it back to stock, but the cobb stage 1+ with the intake is actually better than the stock intake apperantly. and if you run the 91 ots tune instead of 93 you also get extra knock protection. i would say send it man. its not like your modding the car by a huge margin, nor are you actually really increasing any performance.
One for tunes: ruclips.net/video/SMa-VvnhJCU/видео.html What to monitor: ruclips.net/video/mBHCESzy4c4/видео.html Understanding DAM and feedback knock: ruclips.net/video/ONFLIATqHRY/видео.html
@@Smeedia thank you so much. Yes I finally found your videos. You're a life saver I'm new to the turbo let alone Subaru scene and I just want my sti to be as smooth as possible since it will be my daily. One last question sorry if I plan on keeping it mostly stock or only installing parts that don't necessarily need tuning, can I still tune it and is it even worth getting it tuned if you're staying stock?
What is a good way to just get more induction noise that doesn’t require a whole lot of tuning and is safe? I’ve looked into the COBB SF intake and it seems like the thing I’m after. Do you have any recommendations or better ways to increase induction noise on a 2019 STI all stock? I wish they made an SPF intake for newer models like they did for the 04-07 sti gens
No one will be able to tune with a catless downpipe not on accessports. I'd suggest thr grimmspeed catted one. But Ambott is great for the wrx platform 🔥
i was on cobb stage 2, drove my car like a grandma for 4 months until i could get dynoed. i just did not trust it enough to drive how i want to without much worry on a pro tune.
Great stuff as usual. One question- what if i'm running 93 OTS stg 1+ but there's no 93 available. Can I safely creep back home on a couple o litres of 91?
What tune on the Cobb should use for catted down pipe and Cobb air intake. Also do they have tunes now that would override my catless downpipe and Cobb air intake. Any recommendations? I don’t want to screw this car up. Haha (don’t believe I have any pro tuners in my area or even state).
I have a 19 wrx and just got my accessport and am only going to put in the Cobb cold air intake am I good with the ots map? Later ima get a j pipe and catback exhaust but for that ima get it dyno tuned.
I was running 76 gas station on the 91 tune and the dam stayed at 1 but I try chevron and my dam went to 0.750 should I be worried and should I go back to 76 gas station ?
Overall I've had a positive experience on the Cobb stage 1 map. My only modification under the hood is an AOS and I don't buy cheap gas. The stage 1 doesn't really add any power but it's a huge improvement in the smoothness of power delivery. It's a great driving feel mod. However I will not be continuing with the Cobb maps when I begin to mod for power.
thanks man this comment helps just as much as the video itself. I'm studying automotive technology but I'm going at this alone with my 2017 base wrx ... I don't want to increase hp I really just want to smooth it out and make a few small alterations to the gearbox so for now I think cobb stage 1 is enough for me. the wrx is my daily driver I have two years left paying on it and I dont want dealerships playing with me damaging sensors and then trying to charge me for diagnosis/repair
Question just got my dream car which is a 2019 wrx not that long ago with it I don’t know if you’ll be able to answer but do I need a Cobb AP in order to tune my car if I add a intake
@@Smeedia one more question do I need a ap and a tune for me to keep driving my wrx if I put an Grimmspeed Boost Control And MISHIMOTO Cold Air Intake or will it miss up my engine
It makes complete sense why an etune or a pro tune is the best option, but one thing I don't understand is why an OTS tune is different than the stock tune? The OEM doesn't custom tune each car, so all of those variables apply to the car from the factory too. Sure, a Cobb OTS tune is more aggressive than the stock tune, but from what I've read, Cobb's 2015+ OTS tunes are fairly conservative. So if you use 93 gas and the 91 OTS stage 1 tune for a little bit of extra safety, is it really worse than the factory tune?
SOA flags the cars with OTS tunes because they're "more aggresive" when they just add some fueling and a little boost. Cobbs maps run a little rich to stay on the safer side
Keep in mind that Cobb tunes are made for Cobb parts so expect to have some values that are not ideal. Also that all OTS Maps are made for catted downpipe as well. Multiple suggestion would be to buy a catted downpipe. With catless you'll also be subject to boost creep
2016 wrx sti I run stage 2 lwg Grimmspeed catted dp Perrin cold intake Hks blow off valve Full catback exhaust May I run cobb stage 2 lgw or no let me know please
I wouldn't, for that set up I would get an Etune. Thr Cobb OTS maps are built to work with Cobb parts. Thd stage 2 LWG map for a 2016 STI is only for a Cobb catted downpipe and that is it. The car will run very very lean with a BOV, intake and downpipe. The OWM fuel system cannot support those mods.
I have a 2017 wrx limited, with nothing but the upgraded sti performance exhaust that came from the factory. Are you saying that if I did use a OTS tune to use Stage 0 instead of stage 1?
@@Smeedia Okay cool, cause I know they offer a Stage 1 and a stage 1+ and for the map notes on stage 1 it shows stock stuff and catback I'll definitely run the 0 just to be safe.
Hey boss, STi's always need an access port to tune your car correct? Even with a tuner they'll use the accessport to tune the car? Just new to the car game
How do you keep your engine so clean?! When you had the shot with the hood lifted, I couldn’t spot a single spec of dirt! But seriously, can you clean your engine with water, I’ve heard you have to be careful, but mine gets decently dusty and I don’t know what to use? Besides cleaning every individual part with a damp rag I guess.
The hood vents let in a lot of water and helps keep dirt off but every now and then I just wipe it down 😅 you can just cover your alternator and battery 🙏
You said no company makes OTS tunes for catless downpipes? Love the video but when i was on an OTS map i was running Stage 3 for the ST and its for a catless downpipe
With thr EPA Crackdown now I suspect that any that are still out there have been pulled down so people can't download them now 😖 Prior I had never seen any for subarus that were made for catless, only catted
Smeedia I guess they did a smoke leak test nothing showed, they’re saying one of my cylinders is showing a different reading than other 3 on compression test, he’s saying possibly cracked piston? 🤔 at 40kmiles?
im planing on upgradingf my 08 sti, i have ordered AOS,getadomstune cooling mod and killer b oil pickup to make it more reliable, but when it comes to power mods can i install a cold air intake, equal lengh headers and cat back and still be safe with my oem fuel system?
This video is perfect and exactly what I've been looking for, this is the only channel that's actually reliable for this stuff 🔥🔥🔥
Glad i could get it made for everyone 🙏🙏 ans glad that it helps 😁😁
100% agree ... Great Job, keep it up
Many thanks
Same, owned four so far, and this guy is legit. Trusted
I too have to agree with many of the comments here that there are a lot (TONS) of videos out there that are either conflicting, confusing, wrong or all together bad so thank you for being clear concise and on point. Well done. Coming from a long line of Audi S4...I just bought my first ever subaru (2021 WRX Limited) and the ride so far is almost too much fun. The thought of what is to come next is beyond exciting. Thanks so much for putting this out there. Good stuff. [insert goofy happy as a clam emoji here]...
Eyyy appreciate the support and congrats on the car! Always here if ya have questions 🔥
Jesus Christ. I just bought a subi and learned very quickly that all subi guys have their own language.
Eyyyy, congrats on the new pick up 🔥🔥🔥
@@Smeedia got all my parts for a stage 1+
You are by far the most knowledgeable person I have come across on YT for our cars! Ty kind sir
Thank you! Appreciate the support 🙏
I needed this in my life. I just got an AP, and I’m still getting used to it.
Perfect timing then! Congrats on the new accessport 🙏🔥
Your video it’s exactly what I needed. I have a 2020 STI deadstock. Just got my accessport and since planning on keeping it stock for sometime just went to a pro tuner and I’m super happy with the results. I was gonna go OTS maps but did follow your advise going to pro tuner. Makes a lot of sense. Thanks man.
Glad the info helped my man! 🙏😁
it always does. Thanks 🙏🙏🙏
As a recently new Ford Focus RS owner. I appreciate your video. I'm new to the whole turbo scene. and don't know what to do and what not to do. thank you very much!
Congrats and jelly on the car my dude! Glad that the videos have helped 🔥🙏
@@Smeedia thanks brother much appreciated 👍❤️ and your Subaru looks f****** amazing ❤️❤️
Thank you 🔥🙏
Nice video man. Your comment about older wrx's being more tolerant to OTS maps is correct. Mine is a 2002 with a perrin intake and tbe but hardly any feedback knock or fine learning. It does occur sometimes, but for a split second and always back to 0. It never happens on WOT. My DAM has always been 16
Glad to hear! And thise older ECUs just seem to handle them a bit better
Good video. I got a Cobb AP when they first came out (had to wait) in 2004. Ran Stage 1 ots on my wrx from ‘04-‘17, except when I ran Stage 2 ots with a catted dp. Never had an issue. That said, I had no other mods, and the stage 2 downpipe was a bellmouth design required by Cobb.
Been running Cobb Stage 1 ots on my 2010 STi for last 2 years. Car is bone stock. The tune didn’t add any noticeable power gains, but it did get me much smoother and consistent throttle response and overall much better driveability. Stock, my car’s turbo would not have smooth power delivery. It was frustrating to drive. I bought the car used, from original owner, and it was bone stock - not returned to stock. Never modded. Thought about holding off on the tune but in less than a week, I ordered an AP and tuned Stage 1, 91 CA gas tune. Runs great now.
Gotta figure these cars leave the factory with an oem ots tune. A custom tune will get best results, if you find a tuner you can trust - but I find the Cobb ots tunes fine if you are only modded to what they say for the tune. It’s typically a conservative tune too - you’ll get better results from a custom tune if you want to go that route, but I don’t bounce my car off the rev limiter. I drive conservatively, knowing I have the hp to move when I need to. (ok, sometimes I lay into it just for fun... but never have launched the car from a dead stop)
Agreed, the problems really come into play when people deviate from the map notes. Did you have the V1 AP?!
I'm from the VW/Audi world but the downpipe thing is interesting because, at least for our cars, nearly every OTS stage 2 tune tells you an upgraded cat/catless downpipe is needed.
Wow third video in a row I’ve seen and I’m absolutely subscribed now! Wow amazing info
Totally anecdotal, but my STI had ringland failure on cyl 4 with Stage 1+ SF tune with just a Cobb intake & Nameless catback after several months. SOA agreed to replace the motor after the investigation and working with the dealer. Put the stock airbox back on the car after, and waiting until I have more funds for some more mods before a protune. Great video man and excellent advice.
Sorry to hear but glad that theyre taking care of you 🙏 got a nice dealership with that one!
@@Smeedia yup, Subaru of Wichita was very helpful in working through the process. They also mentioned that being part of the local Subaru community helped my case.
A friend of mine got the same issue on his 2019 STI, never tuned and less than 10k miles.. SOA did investigate and replaced his engine.. this was a weird one for sure..
Kelbaez no doubt... mine is a 2016. Glad he got it covered! Definitely less to discuss with if no mods, but they also look for signs of abuse or racing too.
Wow... u got ringland from just the stage 1 tune n intake? That’s fucking ridiculous ..... I swear that’s just sad af.
yes I've been researching this for weeks now!! but you nailed it for me thank you!!! I'm in Wisconsin and the weather here is screwy all the time. giving me weird numbers drive after drive I'm going for a custom tune soon.
Glad that the video helped my man! 🙏😁
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@@Bartholomew_VonEsquire_Thee_IV little brother!
Awesome video! Picked up my first WRX (2006) last year and have been slowly adding modifications. Planning on going stage 2 soon and this video helped me understand OTS maps vs pro tuning and the risks involved. Thanks so much!
Glad that the video helped my man 🙏😁
Just got a 2007 WRX two months ago, AP will be here Monday, nice seeing another Hawkeye!!
Ethan RS congrats on getting a Hawkeye man! I absolutely love mine. Take good care of it and they run forever!
I don’t even know what an OPS tune or whatever you call it is, but I’ve had no problems whatsoever. Definitely recommend
It will vary from car to car and location to location. As long as you follow the MAP notes they can be okay.
O.T.S = Off the shelf
@@Smeedia I’ve been running my COTS prune for like 6 minutes and it’s working flawlessly
@@Smeedia just giving you a hard time man, you made a comment about people saying their ots tunes run perfectly fine in the video 😂
@@Smeedia one month owner of an 18 wrx, been listening to all your videos at work, love the content!
Lmao I was about to say this dudes trolling hard right now 😅😅😅
Great video, I have my car with a tomei and bypass only I want to get an AP but I’m still under warranty can I still get it just to monitor my dam, knock and all those without void my warranty??
Bro I've been looking for so many clear explanations for this thank you so much!!!!! PERFECT VIDEO
Eyyyy, glad it helped! 😁
I just bought a 2015 WRX, and the previous owner already had a stage 2 +big sf COBB tune all ready to go. He had it catless and the dealership couldn't sell it without putting cats on. Then I learned, like you said in the video, I should look up what parts the COBB tune asks for. Now, I have to get it in the shop to put high flow cats on, cause the dealership ones aren't cutting it. I'm afraid to let loose with it not having the right parts.
Definitely make sure you've got the right parts on there 🙏 those cats wouldent do anything harmful aside from reduce exhaust flow 😖
Great info...this is my first sti and im learnign alot from this chanel...
Glad that the videos are helping 🙏🔥
Great video brother! Bought my first STI back in June and I love watching your videos. Just today I bought a new exhaust and I’m planning on getting a COBB intake with their OTS map. My concern so far is that I don’t want my car to be acting weird until I get a proper tune.
Congrats on the car! And mostly likley will not start acting weird, but some cars just don't respond well to them. 🙏
Good advice bro, I want to get my car down to AWD Performance but haven't had the time.... three years later... yeah so, I'm still on that OTS map, lolz. Keep up the good content dude!
Vohaul214 have you had any problems and which OTS map?
Thanks my man! Hoping that OTS Tune still does you good 🔥😁
@@subiegang4917 The Cobb Stage 1+. I have an invidia N1 and Mishimoto CAI. '16 STi Limited. Run 93 and send it, everywhere.
So if I have a catback exhaust its stage 0? Because I heard the stage 0 is the stock tune
Catbacks don't require any type of tune 🤙
But stage 0 is what you'd use for all stock
I came across your video today. I purchased a 2019 WRX with COBB mods on it already including Catback exhausts. I am currently seeking a COBB accessport to find out the amount of tuning on the car if any.
This clears up a lot of things about OTS tunes. Thank you
Anytime my man 🙏
Can I use Reflash Only: River-91 oct-High
Boost-Final With POPS AND FLAMES
Hi there, I have a 2017 WRX and I have a Cobb Intake. Do i run the Stage 1+ BIG SF Intake map tune? Idk y its saying I need a cobb catback exhaust
If you add a different part should you swap to the stock tune until you get a pro tune?
I’m new to Subarus. What tune would you need for an intake downpipe? Do you pay for a pro tune after installing parts? How do you e tune. If there’s no ots map for downpipes. I can’t find anything, I’m also a noob! Someone give me a answer lol
Hey brother nice video..just bought 15 sti with 100k it has Cobb intake exhaust..not sure what kind yet..has burnt blue tips and maybe some other modes but not sure since bought from dealer..no accesport was with car but I have one..I was told on wrx that once I did big sf intake I needed to use that map selection or engine light may turn on..this sti has no engine light and don't know if it's been pro tuned..should I try accessport?
so i just got a 2020 wrx and it came with a cobb intercooler and cobb intake and charge pipe aswell as an exhaust...should i go accessport or pro tune?
Personally would suggest a protune 🤙
I have an upgraded HPFP and intake but stock downpipe. Should I use the stage 2 tune ?
Can you get boost creep with an intermediate pipe that deletes the second cat?
What if I have an axle back and the intake? Should I go with stage 1 or stage 1+?
This video is very helpful thank you . Just got a lapis blue pearl 18 Sti car came with borla cbe and Cobb intake and no AP . Original owner says he never had a AP or tune according to salesman as I ask him to call him to verify . Knowing me cobb intake no tune freak me out bought a AP , waiting for my laptop to get here this week . My question is I’m not planning on doing anymore mods besides buying a Cobb air box since the car only has the Cobb intake . What map should I run ? Stage 1 or 1 + . Car has Cobb intake ( buying airbox soon) and borla exhaust)
Tanner! I finally got my accessport today.
Have a question. Haven’t seen it in a video yet. Buying a 09 wrx hatchback, and was curious to know if I could run a HKS ssqv on an OTS
I have a OTS tune. APR. It was flawless stage 1 but when I went IS20 tubo with tune I started having high rpm WOT misfires. This is for 2015 VW golf 1.8T FWD auto. I'm still trying to figure it out or find a better suited option.
I have a AWE full catback exhaust for wrx. Can I run Stage 1? This only mods that i have and I just installed my AP
No, you need an intake for the stage 1 map 🙏 you'll want the stage 0
@@Smeedia thanks! Thats why it feels different I’ve been running stage 1 for 3weeks now and hopefully nothing goes bad. I will put it to stage 0
i have a 2016 wrx premium and i am new to cars. my car feels like it has a powerband and it hesitates when im around 4k rpm and once it gets to abt 5k rpm it flys. how to i fix this? I am running stage 2 frn 91oct
I’ve got a mk7 GLI, with all FBO’s. Got COBB AP. I’m probably going to run the OTS for a little until I get a chance to get a pro tune done. I’ve already checked the map notes. I think I should be good for a little. But thanks for explaining how everything is.
How are you liking the GLI? We've been looking at snagging a GTI but easier said than done to find them for a reasonable price 😅
@@Smeedia loving it so much. Rides so nicely and pretty fast. Love all the features it has. And the best it surprising people on how fast it actually is. Also it’s an automatic so I got the DSG ;)
i just got a v3 accessport for my 2011 wrx. I have a stock air box (with a k n n air box filter) and a stock downpipe with a custom exhaust job. what tune should i use OTS on my accessport?
question my car is stock i have a tuner in my area local to me, do i even need to get a accessport?? i understand that your buying a off the shelf tune and download it to the ecu, but isnt that what those tuners do from there own computer,create a tune and download it to the ecu,i coud be totally wrong here to learn ;) just curious could save me money?
So if I have just a muffler delete and the air intake Cobb, boomba bbv, I should be running stage 1 big sf+ ?
Yessir 🙏
@@Smeedia thank you sir👌🏽
Can I run a Cobb access, port, and a colder intake without a pro tune?
I'm one of those guys who's been using the OTS tune for years with good results so far with my 2018 WRX. Using the Cobb stage 0 93 OCT no mods. If I was to start modding I would start with a catback exhaust (stage 2). At that point I think I'd probably spring for a pro tune, from what I've heard the Cobb OTS tune is not that great once you start doing serious mods.
That is correct, anything past stage 2 really gets dicey. Glad to hear that you've had minimal issues though! 🙏🔥
You need a TURBO BACK exhaust to run Stage 2. A catback doesn’t change the hp. That said, I’m not familiar with mods on the FA engine, but stage 2 has always required a downpipe (J pipe on the FA?).
@@stephen3164 You're correct. To push power on these cars you need a J Pipe. Catbacks and axlebacks do not need a tune. (As per Smeedia, and many others.)
If you buy a used WRX and it doesn't have the AccessPort is there a way to know or tell if a tune has been added? Also, are there other Access Ports besides Cobb?
It’s normal after passing 2500 rpm and a get 1.41 fine knock learn ?
Can happen at any rpm range but not a high enough value to stress 🙏🙏
What do u mean (nkt) do u mean not ? 😆
Yes, lol my phone auto corrects the dumbest things sometimes 🙄
Hey, I have an 06 WRX with stage 2 mods from previous owner. Sti intercooler, catless downpipe and catback exhaust. I’ve been driving the car for 1200 miles over the course of 3 months and it’s been running smooth. My butt dyno was telling me that it was probably open sourced tune since it was running rich and smooth from what I felt.
I’m getting an accessort this weekend to play it safe and to monitor feedback. Will the Cobb stage 2 OTS tune work with my setup until I’m ready to get etune ?
Hey smeedia so my 2020 sti just has a cat back exhaust what ots tune should I run ?
I have a Cobb catted Down pipe, still had overboosting issues
Tan-man, just cracked open the AP. This video is really valuable & clear. You are building a library of helpful knowledge. Thanks Man! Ur car looks great in that color.
Thank you! Congrats on the new accessport and glad the videos helping!
Hello. Is any can help me. I got aftermarket inteck. But I got a code P0300 and P0171. Do I need access port. To fixed it? ?? Thank you.
OTS maps are fine for the basic mods as long as your using Cobb products, but your not going to see better performance. With a protune there's a noticible difference in power as the tuner can make the map more aggressive.
This. People just spread so much bullshit about OTS tunes. Are they amazing? No. But they’re conservative so they don’t mess your car up
so i have the accessport with a 2019 wrx and when i upload a file its saying im gonna overwrite another file???? is this normal?
Might sound dumb just getting into this but if I start with a OTS tune and go to a pro tune can u still leave the access port plugged in to monitor everything or does it mess up the tune.
Yes you can 🙏
@smeedia I just got my AP from MAPerformance. My 18 WRX is stock besides axle back exhaust.. would I be fine with running the tune they provide?
Which tune of theirs? 🙏
Just got a 2020 wrx. Only planning on putting air intake and cat back. Will OTS be good...I drive lots of highway miles. Liken it stuff man. I'm brand new to this stuff
OTS should be just fine 🙏 congrats on the car!
Who do you recommend for a e-tune?
Really good video! Quesiton regarding the stage 2 you mentioned. Is that strictly just adding a downpipe? Or is that downpipe, catback, and the intake? Got some coming in, and want to make sure i dont upload the wrong ots. Befote i get a pro tune.
So who do you suggest for buying an etune?
Delicious tuning 👌
@@Smeedia thanks homie.
So how do I get a cat pop or a car pop with my Cobb tune for my eco boost 2015 eco boost mustang auto
Goijg to need a custom Etune, shoot delicious tuning an email and they should be able to get that made. I wanna say it's around $400
Right now I have a 2016 Lexus IS 200t f sport and I'm running a HPS air intake, ark exhaust, downpipe, HPS charge pipe, and a racechip gets tuning box, do you think I'm better off switching to a high flow catalytic converters ? Also if I do switch to a high flow catalytic converter will my cel go on? Will I be able to pass emissions?
Sweet SRT4, i had one and loved it
I'm in the north west Olympia area looking for a pro tuner how might I find one?
I recently bought an 2020 STI, I was watching all your videos but I’m not sure what I need. Is my daily drive but I’m a little disappointed of the stock performance so I would like to install an exhaust, air filter, blow off valve and I’m assuming a pro tune. Could you help me? What will you suggest?
Could I run a grimmspeed intake with a cobb stage 1+ ots tune? And do you know of any good protuners around the Spokane area, because I’m from Northern Idaho.
my question is, will Cobbs OTS maps compensate for things like, say, if you happen to get a tank of "bad gas" completely unbeknownst to you, like the stock tune will just in order to keep things safe? very curious, thanks!
Yes your DAM will drop reducing your ignition tables. 🙏
@@Smeedia gotcha! thank you, i appreciate your reply. to add, i have a 2021 STi and im thinking of eventually going with cobbs stage 1 + kit (AP with SF intake and box, and running their matching appropriate map of 93 octane & normal waste gate. i can readily get 93 octane from a top tier fuel station where i live)
i already have a crawford V3 AOS and the GetaDomTune Cylinder 4 coolant hose mod. i dont drive the pants off the car, and i dont track it, just want the induction and turbo noises, to add, and do 2000 mile oil & filter changes (overkill i know, but the sti is also my 2nd vehicle). but, in your opinion , do i need any further supporting mods to completely safely run the cobb stage 1 + with my desired map? like, should i get a killer b pickup tube or perrin oil cooler, and koyo radiator because im now asking for more of the car? or is the stock stuff sufficient to handle the intake and tune with my already installed AOS and Cylinder 4 mod. thanks in advance. would appreciate your input
@@kcm732 bro im in the same boat, 2021 sti limited, and want turbo sounds. honestly it is easy to revert it back to stock, but the cobb stage 1+ with the intake is actually better than the stock intake apperantly. and if you run the 91 ots tune instead of 93 you also get extra knock protection. i would say send it man. its not like your modding the car by a huge margin, nor are you actually really increasing any performance.
Do you have a video on accessport for beginners? And also is a accessport necessary? And what is a etune and protune.
One for tunes: ruclips.net/video/SMa-VvnhJCU/видео.html
What to monitor: ruclips.net/video/mBHCESzy4c4/видео.html
Understanding DAM and feedback knock: ruclips.net/video/ONFLIATqHRY/видео.html
@@Smeedia thank you so much. Yes I finally found your videos. You're a life saver I'm new to the turbo let alone Subaru scene and I just want my sti to be as smooth as possible since it will be my daily. One last question sorry if I plan on keeping it mostly stock or only installing parts that don't necessarily need tuning, can I still tune it and is it even worth getting it tuned if you're staying stock?
Definitely still worth getting a tune. Car will be much happier with a custom tune even if it's stock. Not needed but you def can!
@@Smeedia thank you sir. 👍
What is a good way to just get more induction noise that doesn’t require a whole lot of tuning and is safe? I’ve looked into the COBB SF intake and it seems like the thing I’m after. Do you have any recommendations or better ways to increase induction noise on a 2019 STI all stock? I wish they made an SPF intake for newer models like they did for the 04-07 sti gens
SF intake will get you the sound 🔥 you can run the stage 1 map with thr intake without issue
I don’t see a stage 2 on the Cobb tuner I have a full catless turbo back tomei exhaust any help ?
There's no OTS Tune for a catles set up but you should be able to download the stage 2 map from Cobbs website
Hey man I’m trying to get a etune which one do you recommend i got a 2018 wrx with a stage 2+ ots tune from Cobb
Also I am running a cat less down pipe
No one will be able to tune with a catless downpipe not on accessports. I'd suggest thr grimmspeed catted one. But Ambott is great for the wrx platform 🔥
Got a Cobb 20g and Cobb Intake on my 2013 Sti, what map would I run? Jus ordered my AP.
Either an Etune or Protune, there are no OTS Maps that support that turbo
i was on cobb stage 2, drove my car like a grandma for 4 months until i could get dynoed. i just did not trust it enough to drive how i want to without much worry on a pro tune.
I dont blamw you at all, ive seen some cars throw fits on some OTS Tunss
Should I use a 93 stage 1 plus lwg tune I just have axle back muffle delete map intake and boomba bpv
Yes 🙏
What tune would you recommend for my 2015 dsg Volkswagen gti, I already have apr stage 1 and I’m ready for stage 2
Hello, I have a 2020 STI with Perry intake,gfb respons tms adjustable bov and muffler delete what map should I use?
Custom E tune, unfortunately you're using parts that are not aupported by any OTS Tunes
@@Smeedia ok thank you bro
Great stuff as usual. One question- what if i'm running 93 OTS stg 1+ but there's no 93 available. Can I safely creep back home on a couple o litres of 91?
You should be able to use the 91 OTS map, if its not on your AP you can download it off of Cobbs website 🔥
What tune on the Cobb should use for catted down pipe and Cobb air intake. Also do they have tunes now that would override my catless downpipe and Cobb air intake. Any recommendations? I don’t want to screw this car up. Haha (don’t believe I have any pro tuners in my area or even state).
What is the car? 🙏🙏🙏
@@Smeedia 2011 WRX
Stage 2 + 🙏
@@Smeedia okay and do you recommend I get a Cobb down pipe sooner than later?
Whenever your ready, great downpipe choice 🔥
I have a 19 wrx and just got my accessport and am only going to put in the Cobb cold air intake am I good with the ots map? Later ima get a j pipe and catback exhaust but for that ima get it dyno tuned.
You'll be good with thr OTS Map 🙏
I was running 76 gas station on the 91 tune and the dam stayed at 1 but I try chevron and my dam went to 0.750 should I be worried and should I go back to 76 gas station ?
Try resetting your ECU learning and monitor DAM after that. If it drops again then I eould try a diffrent fuel station
@@Smeedia thanks man for the help
Overall I've had a positive experience on the Cobb stage 1 map. My only modification under the hood is an AOS and I don't buy cheap gas. The stage 1 doesn't really add any power but it's a huge improvement in the smoothness of power delivery. It's a great driving feel mod. However I will not be continuing with the Cobb maps when I begin to mod for power.
Smart idea 🙏 glad to hear that your car has not been having any issues with it 🔥
thanks man this comment helps just as much as the video itself. I'm studying automotive technology but I'm going at this alone with my 2017 base wrx ... I don't want to increase hp I really just want to smooth it out and make a few small alterations to the gearbox so for now I think cobb stage 1 is enough for me. the wrx is my daily driver I have two years left paying on it and I dont want dealerships playing with me damaging sensors and then trying to charge me for diagnosis/repair
This was really helpful, thank you for it.
Glad it helped 🔥😁
What is the best way to etune a 2019 wrx and what the best tuning system to use
I would suggest Ambott or Brenn tuning
Question just got my dream car which is a 2019 wrx not that long ago with it I don’t know if you’ll be able to answer but do I need a Cobb AP in order to tune my car if I add a intake
Yes you'll need an AP 🙏 congrats on thr car BTW!
@@Smeedia k ty that I all I need to hear
@@Smeedia one more question do I need a ap and a tune for me to keep driving my wrx if I put an Grimmspeed Boost Control And MISHIMOTO Cold Air Intake or will it miss up my engine
Yes you'll need an AP and need a tuner to map you a map for those parts 🙏
It makes complete sense why an etune or a pro tune is the best option, but one thing I don't understand is why an OTS tune is different than the stock tune? The OEM doesn't custom tune each car, so all of those variables apply to the car from the factory too.
Sure, a Cobb OTS tune is more aggressive than the stock tune, but from what I've read, Cobb's 2015+ OTS tunes are fairly conservative. So if you use 93 gas and the 91 OTS stage 1 tune for a little bit of extra safety, is it really worse than the factory tune?
SOA flags the cars with OTS tunes because they're "more aggresive" when they just add some fueling and a little boost. Cobbs maps run a little rich to stay on the safer side
@@Smeedia so in terms of safety, is a Cobb OTS tune generally about the same as the stock tune then?
Hey man, Im planning to buy an invidia divorced catless dp. Is it ok to have a divorce catless dp with a Cobb ots tune? Specifically for my 2007 wrx.
Keep in mind that Cobb tunes are made for Cobb parts so expect to have some values that are not ideal. Also that all OTS Maps are made for catted downpipe as well. Multiple suggestion would be to buy a catted downpipe.
With catless you'll also be subject to boost creep
I have a 2005 wrx auto and im wanting to do a manual swap later on. Should i just get a auto ap or manual ap?
If you plan on doing the swap soon I would get the one for MT, if its a ways out I'd get the AT
@@Smeedia I appreciate it man! Been stressing so much over this lol
2016 wrx sti I run stage 2 lwg
Grimmspeed catted dp
Perrin cold intake
Hks blow off valve
Full catback exhaust
May I run cobb stage 2 lgw or no let me know please
I wouldn't, for that set up I would get an Etune. Thr Cobb OTS maps are built to work with Cobb parts. Thd stage 2 LWG map for a 2016 STI is only for a Cobb catted downpipe and that is it. The car will run very very lean with a BOV, intake and downpipe. The OWM fuel system cannot support those mods.
I have 2019 STI with a cat back exhaust with Cobbs intake on a stage 1+ OST... It feels good. Should I worry since I am not so modified?
I'd swap over to the normal stage 1 map, but if its not giving you any issues you can just leave it 🙏
I have a 2017 wrx limited, with nothing but the upgraded sti performance exhaust that came from the factory. Are you saying that if I did use a OTS tune to use Stage 0 instead of stage 1?
Yes in that case you would do stage 0, state 1 is going to be for an intake
@@Smeedia Okay cool, cause I know they offer a Stage 1 and a stage 1+ and for the map notes on stage 1 it shows stock stuff and catback I'll definitely run the 0 just to be safe.
What do you mean by box?
would you recommend stage 2 when my car has catted downpipe, catback exhaust and intake?
What is the car?
@@Smeedia 2016 wrs sti
I wouldent unless you plan on getting an Etune 🙏
okay awesome. i guess i’ll have to wait to tune my car.
i’ve been running my car with those mods without tune. what do you think i should do before i get that etune
Hey boss,
STi's always need an access port to tune your car correct? Even with a tuner they'll use the accessport to tune the car?
Just new to the car game
90% of tuners will use the accessport its a good idea to snag one 🙏
@@Smeedia love your stuff brother.
Greetings from Australia
Thank you! 🙏😁
How do you keep your engine so clean?! When you had the shot with the hood lifted, I couldn’t spot a single spec of dirt! But seriously, can you clean your engine with water, I’ve heard you have to be careful, but mine gets decently dusty and I don’t know what to use? Besides cleaning every individual part with a damp rag I guess.
The hood vents let in a lot of water and helps keep dirt off but every now and then I just wipe it down 😅 you can just cover your alternator and battery 🙏
Can u put an accessport on a regular Impreza ? Can someone help me understand what I can do with it if I can
Unfortunately no😪 they done make one compatable with N/A ECUs
@@Smeedia that’s pretty lame , is there anything I can do to improve performance, even if it’s not top speed?
Unfortunately not really 😪 a set of headers and an intake may add some power but nothing noticeable
Needed this ! Love you my dude
Anytime my man 🙏🔥
You said no company makes OTS tunes for catless downpipes? Love the video but when i was on an OTS map i was running Stage 3 for the ST and its for a catless downpipe
With thr EPA Crackdown now I suspect that any that are still out there have been pulled down so people can't download them now 😖
Prior I had never seen any for subarus that were made for catless, only catted
what tune should i run ? i have a 2017 sti, i’m running a invidia downpipe and a invidia n1 dual exhaust
For that downpipe I would suggest an Etune 🙏
@@Smeedia what ots tune should i use while i get my e tune, etune currently out of stock so i’ll have to wait for it
There are no etunes specifically for invidia but the Cobb stage 2 should be close
@@Smeedia i appreciate the help my guy i really do thank you
@@Smeedia what would be best lower waste gate , normal, or high wastegate?
Wonder why when I took car for protune I wasn’t building up any boost, reading showed flat
Could be a boost leak somewhere
Smeedia I guess they did a smoke leak test nothing showed, they’re saying one of my cylinders is showing a different reading than other 3 on compression test, he’s saying possibly cracked piston? 🤔 at 40kmiles?
It was building some boost I guess just not more
Possible. But hoping that its not the case. What were the readings from the compression test?
Smeedia he told me but don’t remember haha but I’ll give them a call tomorrow, I think they were going to try spark plugs
im planing on upgradingf my 08 sti, i have ordered AOS,getadomstune cooling mod and killer b oil pickup to make it more reliable, but when it comes to power mods can i install a cold air intake, equal lengh headers and cat back and still be safe with my oem fuel system?
Yes the 08 fuel system is capable of handling that, i would at least suggest a fuel pump though