Full Throttle group 25 batteries do not fit in this tray, for some reason the folks at Full Throttle make some of their battery group sizes about a half inch larger than the BCI dimensions. Just a heads up for people shopping around for batteries for this kit.
We have modified the Tundra tray to be able to fit the Full Throttle batteries now. More info at this blog article - www.genesisoffroad.com/newtraydesigns
As of 9/17/18, our Tundra kit is now compatible with all 2007-2021models, including the 2018 with LED headlights! The kit now includes 5 small brackets for moving the fuse box backwards about 1/2", plenty to clear the headlights. Please see our updated instructions here - www.genesisoffroad.com/v/instructions/tundradbk.pdf
2021 install, the fusebox has a tab on the back exit of the harness this extension gives absolutely no clearance as the hydraulic brake assembly is right there and that is hard lined in. If anyone has a fix let me know...I would really like to install this...
Love the look and function of the product however for any of you out there with a 2018 Tundra, just a heads up that none of the directions online will work with your truck. You will have to modify everything posted but the top plate kit that is provided. The battery box will not fit 100% you will need to modify your fuse box to the point of cutting off the back left foot and the front right foot. This leaves you with the front left and back right to relocate with the provided brackets. The headlights are the issue, way bigger or pultrude into the engine bay farther then any other year. The Factory Battery cables are also to short and will be "very tight" (need to be bent to fit). The company does not say "why" but, you must use a D25 battery (you will need 2 new ones, they are not for your truck but will function) because the terminals on a battery that is designed for your truck are in the wrong orientation for this setup. I had 2 new yellow top D36's that I could use but the +/- were backwards. I hope this helps someone at least to plan better! As I said, love the product! You just need a better plan and the "why" of things help make a plan better. Cost was $1450 with 2 battery's, and the Dual kit w/g screen.
As of 9/17/18, our Tundra kit is now compatible with all 2007-2021models, including the 2018 with LED headlights. The kit now includes 5 small brackets for moving the fuse box backwards about 1/2", plenty to clear the headlights. Please see our updated instructions here - www.genesisoffroad.com/v/instructions/tundradbk.pdf Please contact us anytime you run into ANY installation issues, we are here to help! 901-214-5337 or info@genesisoffroad.com
Please tell me whether it is possible to replace these batteries with the maximum increased capacity of the same manufacturer with the same sizes. I have the highest level Audio System (2 class A amplifiers heat up to 115 degrees) which literally devour energy even with a minimum volume.
Skip to about 1:40, it explains that you'll connect any aftermarket accessory wires to our power and ground bus bars. This includes low amp devices like LED lights or a CB, as well as high amp accessories like a winch or stereo equipment.
I have a 2021 Toyota tundra TRD pro the relocation tabs for fuse box doesn’t show in the instructions but I had to cut the fuse box leg with a razor blade in order to get batteries to fit
Sorry for the confusion. The video was shot before we started using the relocation tabs for some year models. Here's the link to the written instructions with details on how to move the fuse box back - www.genesisoffroad.com/v/instructions/tundradbk.pdf
@@jhartmac100 I believe it was the one closest to the fender i’m not at home right now so I can’t check for you but they replied to my comment follow their link if that helps you any best of luck man 👍👍
Great looking product! I’m looking to run a power line back to the trailer connect area to run a power inverter in a trailer (will run a freezer for hunting purposes primarily.) Is this a viable solution for that? Any other videos that would show that?
Yes, we make a set of quick connect cables for this purpose. You can run one set of cables from your inverter up to the tongue, and install one set of cables from our battery kit to the rear bumper. The connectors will snap together to power up your inverter. You can see more details here - www.genesisoffroad.com/quickconnect-s/102.htm
Hi there. I do have question, im planning to put fridge to my truck. I have atleast 10 aftermarket lights to my truck i run winch as well. Do u think the dual battery can accomodate all the power i need without draining my battery. Im thinking to install solar or dual battery insted. Thanks
Absolutely! This is the perfect scenario for using a dual battery system. With our system installed, you will be able to power the fridge, lights, and everything else from the second battery. Even if you drain that second battery all the way down, you'll still be able to start your engine. A lot of people will also install solar panels to help recharge the batteries while the vehicle is turned off, giving you more run time for the fridge before you'll need to crank up to recharge.
Curious if I ran a inverter 3k watt off the accessory battery while the engine off would it possibly drain it quickly? I do realize it depends also on what I have plugged into the inverter as welll.......or do you recommend running the motor when using an inverter? And thanks for this VID......I am definately going to purchase this setup.
It depends entirely on what you are running on the inverter. If you're just charging a laptop at about 3-4 amps, it will last a long time. If you're running a electric blanket at 15 amps overnight it won't last as long. The Group 25 battery from Full River has about 63 amp hours of capacity. Loosely speaking, this means you could run a 1 amp accessory for about 63 hours until the battery is "dead", which is about 10.5v.
The Tundra kit comes with some small brackets to move the fuse box backwards by 1 inch. You can see how to install those in the written instructions located here - www.genesisoffroad.com/tundra-dual-battery-kit#tab-8
Is the install for a 2012 Tundra Base V8 4.6 the same as in this video? I know it is supported. I'm more concerned with any additional steps that might be required particularly if cutting of anything is needed. Last question, would Morimoto LED headlights complicate anything? Thanks!
Yes it's the same. The battery compartment area is the same on all the Tundra configurations. You should be ok with those headlights, our kit comes with some little brackets to move the fuse box backwards about 1" to clear the OEM LED headlights. Be sure to check out the written instructions for more details on that - www.genesisoffroad.com/v/instructions/tundradbk.pdf
This is awesome. Thanks Genesis. The pre-wiring is so freaking helpful and honestly probably the reason most hold off. Ordering and installing as I have externals (Dometic, fans, lights, etc) to run intermittently. Have a similar setup in my Sprinter and the two batteries keep me off grid well over a week w/o running the vehicle. Nice, clean setup guys and that “Boost Button” is amazeballz. Question, will both show up on ODB status monitors, or show as one?
@@GenesisOffroad looking for this same set up for my 2019 tundra. Link says kit is 599.00 battery sold separately? What’s exactly in the kit just the connectors? I thought the whole battery and everything comes in one
@@allensaelee6707 Our kit comes with the new steel tray to hold 2 batteries, all the installation hardware you'll need, and the top lid that has the smart isolator, bus bars, boost button, G Screen port, and all the wiring completely done for you out of the box. You'll add 2 Group 25 batteries of your choice.
@@allensaelee6707 Our kit includes the new steel tray, all installation hardware, and the top lid that secures the batteries has the smart isolator, boost button, bus bars, and all the wiring integrated into it for you. Good quality AGM batteries cost around $285 - $385 each. We offer the Odyssey and Full River brand batteries for sale on our website if you'd like to get it all dropped off at your doorstep. We have everything in stock for fast shipping!
It's tight in there for sure. If it's a little too tight for comfort, there's a couple solutions. You could add a couple layers of electrical tape onto the metal fender area closest to the post clamp, or some other type of insulating material. Or the other option is to just bend that area back out of the way a little. That spot closest to the clamp is thin sheet metal, and that spot is not structural, so it is easy to use some pliers to pry that area back away from the clamp to gain an extra 1/4" - 1/2" of clearance.
Genesis, Thank you for a great video. I have a question do I need to get the genesis batteries? Will this work in optima’s batteries or any other batteries?
Certainly! You can think about the inverter just like any other accessory - just hard wire it to the power & ground bus bars. That way anything you run from the inverter will draw power from your accessory battery and won't drain down your cranking battery.
If I may ask a question please, Will this system work with the RedArc DC to DC battery charger and/or the Redarc Redvision system to power accessories?
@Genesis Offroad Last question if I may please, would a power inverter help/hinder or even necessary for this system with or without the RedArc Redvision/Battery Charger? I'm so sorry for the question but I'm trying to get the best use in my 2020 Tundra or trade for F-150 Powerboost.
@@Ratonc2 an inverter is used to change the vehicle’s 12 volt DC power into 110 volt AC power. If you want to use AC powered devices like your laptop, coffee pot, power drill, etc, from your vehicle, then you will need an inverter. Just need to think about what you want to do.
Absolutely! We are simply giving you the extra battery capacity. You would connect an auxiliary fuse block to our power and ground bus bars. This way, once the batteries drop below about 12.7v, all your aftermarket accessories running through the Blue Sea block will continue to run from the second battery so they don't drain down your cranking battery.
We recommend connecting your winch cables to the tall center studs on the power & ground bus bars. This way, while your engine is running and the isolator has the batteries connected together, your winch will draw most of its power from the alternator, but if the alternator can't keep up, the excess demand will be spread across both batteries. This way your winch isn't drawing one battery down and get end up stuck and with a dead battery, which makes for a real bad day!
I see you used the Odyssey for the Tundra, can you say which model. Both the 2014 Tundra and my 2017 Tundra, 5.7L V8, uses a 27F battery; a rather large battery and a crappy one if it's the original Toyota battery. Neither Odyssey or Optima make that size. Thus, I'm assuming the two batteries you have from Odyssey are smaller each on their own?
Our Tundra kit uses Group 25 size batteries. The Odyssey part number is 25-PC1400. That one has 850 cold cranking amps and 65 amp hours of capacity - a lot of power in a compact package!
@@GenesisOffroad Much Thanks. I will be going with your system. When Toyota tells you their 27F battery is inadequate, that speaks volumes. I have a local installer here who has installed your system in other trucks and they speak highly of it; Audio Mobile (Oakland CA).
No, but we do have a couple universal options that may work for you. If you have a spot to put one more battery, you could use our universal single battery kit and link that one to the cranking battery, giving you a remotely mounted dual battery kit. More info on that one here - www.genesisoffroad.com/Single-Battery-Kit-p/153-stbk.htm
No, sorry it doesn't fit the new Tundra model. The battery area under the hood is completely different. You could check out some of our universal options to see if they could work for you - www.genesisoffroad.com/Universal_c_27.html
Yes..all group 24s should have the same overall dimensions..If the sizes weren't standard for manufacturers to follow..it would defeat the whole purpose of having group sizes..You may not wanna be messing around with your truck if your deductive reasoning is at the extreme deficit level as it is apparently..He said you can use any group 24 battery..Which part of that is confusing?? Back away the tool box there..😅
@@muthatrucka76 Ended up installing a commercial grade and extending my wiring myself. Thanks for the smartmouth, condescending, keyboard warrior reply their sport
Very cool product. I was just going to your website to purchase one until I experienced "sticker shock". If it were $300-350 (at most) I would have jumped all over this bc it is exactly what I am looking for. But $530... I just shook my head and will look for a different solution. You really have an amazing solution and I would love to buy one. When you guys decided to come down on the price I will be all over it. (please dont take this as a negative comment towards your dual battery solution, I just dont see over $500 worth of technology there)
Hi Brian, that's ok, we understand the full kit is not for everyone. We also offer each of our vehicle-specific kits as a DIY version, which includes the new steel battery tray, all the installation hardware, and a bare top lid to hold the batteries down. The Tundra DIY kit is $199. This is popular with folks who want to add their own isolator device and do all the wiring themselves. If you have the time, the tools, and the skills to wire up a dual battery system, that's awesome! You'll still need a place to put the batteries though. Feel free to call with any questions.
Curtis Forbes Unfortunately that’s not possible. That would put the negative post at the front, and the factory negative wire is not long enough to stretch up to the front. You can use some pliers to easily bend the edge of that sheet metal down to gain some extra clearance by the positive post, as well as placing a couple layers of electrical tape over that area for additional protection.
Genesis Offroad I took another look at it and realized you’re right. You’d have to have batteries with opposite pole placement and if you haven’t had any issues, it obviously works.
So if the title of the video says 2007+ but the first thing you say in the video is how your going to install this 2014 and up kit....what am I to assume?
Good catch! As of 9/17/18, our Tundra kit is now compatible with all 2007-present models, including the 2018 with LED headlights! The kit now includes 5 small brackets for moving the fuse box backwards about 1/2", plenty to clear the headlights. Please see our updated instructions here - www.genesisoffroad.com/v/instructions/tundradbk.pdf
Got a 2017 Tundra and wanting aux battery so will be taking a look and enquiring around about your product. One side question, with the smart alternator on Tundras, what are the concerns of undervoltage recharge on an AGM battery? A dc/dc charger might be a good option and not hard with your system as an add on. Otherwise, nice job in taking on a problem I hear from several frustrated Tundra owners including myself and overcoming a lack of engineering vision at Toyota. Why you aren't on their payroll already is itself head scratching.
The alternator will vary its output based on what the vehicle is using and the charge level of the battery. Our system allows the cranking battery to charge first. Once it is above 13.2v for 2 minutes, the smart isolator will link the batteries together so the aux battery can be charged. When you connect 2 batteries together in parallel, they will approximately average themselves out, so if your aux battery is low when it is connected to the main, the alternator should increase its output to charge it up. Just keep in mind though that the alternator's primary job is to provide power while the engine is running - it's not a 'battery charger'. Yes, it will charge the batteries, but that's not its primary function. If you have a deeply discharged battery, it's still best to hook up a trickle charger to top it off overnight. A dc-dc charger will take the output of the alternator and boost it by 20-40 amps, which helps charge the batteries faster, which can be helpful is some situations. Hope this helps!
Genesis Offroad Thanks. Definitely taking a hard look at your product as I do like the simplicity and the best part is everything is in the engine bay. One other question and that has to do with running a 3rd battery for camping power either located in the truck bed or a trailer. Pros and Cons of doing this not just with your system specifically but the load on the Tundra charging system? I may have more questions but I'll contact you more directly and address those issues there. I really do appreciate you folks taking this issue on for so many of us frustrated Tundra owners over having to locate an aux battery outside the engine bay.
@@wkmac2 Interested in your progress. I too have a 2017 Tundra and give Genesis system a serious once over. I want to move my various lights and power to winch to an auxillory battery.
Joseph, not done anything just yet as I just laid out $3k for King Shocks on all 4 corners. I do like how simple the Genesis system is but leaning more and more towards using RedArc components and mounting the aux battery in the rear of my Tundra. Otherwise, if just for winch/lights use, I'd give strong thought to the Genesis Off Road setup if I were you and then run everything through something like an S-Pod. Genesis to their credit has made a setup that is very plug and play or in other words, so easy the Geico Caveman could do it!
@@wkmac2 I totally understand the $3k. I'm chuckling and shaking my head for what I've done and spent, but come on, love my rig now. I have the 2017 Limited which had all that faux chrome stuff. I've dropped $26,000 into my rig; thank GOD for tax returns and overtime. First, changed exhaust from single to TRD Dual exhaust, TRD rear anti-sway, TRD cold air intake, TRD skid plate and skid plate for 38 gal gas tank. Installed a rear under seat vault from ESP Truck Accessories; great guy who worked for Toyota for years (based in LA). All the standard chrome plastic removed and switched to color match (Magnetic Metallic Grey); rear bumper ends, mirrors caps, grill and Toyota emblems. Switched headlights to TRD black headlights. Anything Toyota, was done by dealer as covered under warranty and my dealer charges a fair price, odd for San Francisco where you need gold bars for most purchases here with the cost of stuff. Not sure if you're familiar with SparksParts; Toyota dealer in N. Carolina who has a site that sells after market parts and color match parts. Installed a Lock'r Down center console vault (Amazon). BakFlip tonneau cover. Viper alarm with activators for tonneau, tailgate, hood and if truck is tilted to activate to prevent wheel theft. Then, $4700 just for Stage 4 Icon Dynamics with rear EXT system. Then came Toyo 285 18x9 tires, Fuel rims, SSO (Southern Style Offroad) front bumper, WARN Winch 10000. Then, another $4100 in lighting; replaced standard fog with Rigid defused SAE fogs w/conversion kit, Rigid Spot/Driving bar in SSO bumper, Baja Chaser light in grill hood, the cream of the crop; amber strobes inside my back-up lights, bed light, on the Bush Wacker flares, Rigid recessed lights in rear bumper and rock lights under the side steps/rock sliders. I'm a first responder and on any given trip, where I go back road hiking, I get caught up responding to accidents. Standard emergency lights just don't cut it. The lights are controlled by LED screen sPod (mounted inside the sun glass holder) with the phone app as well. I also installed (2) UnderCover swingcase storage units; LOVE THEM - Amazon for $286 for two. Lastly, converted all exterior lights to LED through Headlight Revolution. The dealer was behind me all the way and now plan to take on truck conversion projects. I had 4Wheel Parts do a lot of the heavy stuff. I follow Tundradude34 on RUclips. I agree with him 100%. If Toyota makes anything for your truck, go there first, such as the dual exhaust, as the system is designed for the truck, and it's on the dealer if something go wrong, which I've had no issues. Yeah, could have bought a 2nd car, but I love to be out doors, have a 19' Airstream and love back mountain hiking, off roading, etc; so, it was worth every penny. Regarding Genesis, this is a simple system. The other options for me to consider is like you, put the Aux in the back and install a compressor in the engine compartment.
We haven't had an opportunity to look at the Sequoia yet. If you'd like to email some pictures of your battery compartment area, we can probably tell if it may work or not - info@genesisoffroad.com
The Tundra kit uses Group 25 size batteries. The part number from Odyssey is ODP-AGM25. It's available on our website here - www.genesisoffroad.com/performance-group-25
I believe we have a new solution for the 07-13 models. The headlights on those years are different, and they just barely interfere with the battery tray. We have some new brackets to move the fuse box backwards about 1 inch to give clearance for the headlights. We have shipped a couple kits out to customers with the 07-13 Tundra for test fitting. Hopefully we will get confirmation that it worked soon! Also, we have confirmed that these brackets do work for the 2018 model with LED headlights!
Joseph Afonso Not just yet. We are just waiting on confirmation from a couple customers that the new brackets allow us to clear the headlights. Then I’ll add an option on the Tundra page to select your year model.
Hold up...wait...so this setup without the batteries is 599??? where is THAT cost at??? these parts (other than your widget) are COTS parts, for about 75 bucks, you can do pretty much all of this in a few hours.. You also technically dont even need your overpriced tray. man...Come on!!! 599??? yeah... This is why you're never found at overlanding events. GTFOH with 599... RIPOFF.
If you have the time, the tools, and the skills to put together a dual battery system with all the same features, without a new tray to hold the two batteries, for $75, that's awesome! We've heard from several customers who have tried to reproduce what we have put together for less money, and they all come back to us and say yeah I should have just bought the kit. You'll be even further ahead when you see our new Gen 3 kit for $699. www.genesisoffroad.com/gen3-tundra-dual-battery-kit
The Cole Hersee solenoid used in our kit is rated for 1 million connect/disconnect cycles. It's also water and dust proof, and heat and shock resistant so it is very durable. Since we launched this kit for the Tundra, 4Runner, and Jeep JL back in early 2018, we have not had a single failure. However, if it were to fail, the modular nature of our kit would make replacing it very easy.
If you're building a racing truck, then you probably wouldn't be shopping for a dual battery system. If you want to run accessories with the engine off without killing your cranking battery, then this is the perfect product for you!
I have a 2011 Tundra and got the 2nd gen kit. Honestly, I am not happy with it. The installation is NOT as easy as it showed in the video🤕🤕. First, when relocating the fuse box, it is no way that you can move the whole box backward because the hydraulic system is blocking the way. I end up needing to cut the extra part of my fuse box, then I was barely able to push the fuse box backward. Even this, the battery tray cannot fit in. I need to cut the headlight assembly, the stuck-out part, and the unused leg of the fuse box. Finally, I can put the tray in. Oh no, the tray was touching the engine and there was no way I could move it. In order to move it away from the engine, I need to trim the battery tray, so that I can slide it under the headlight assembly. Finally, the tray was mounted, and the batteries were in. Then I found out that the top plate bolts were not lining up. I would need to drill new holes for it.😡😡😡😡😡 All cables were connected except the positive pole. The factory-positive wire is not long enough to connect it. It took me 2 days to figure out things one by one. And there is no way to go back because of the modification. I like the idea of dual battery but the junk design has really disappointed me. Beware, people, it is not an easy installation. I am still waiting for a part for the positive pole connection. It means I haven't tested out the system "yet". Wish me luck!
I'm sorry to hear you had some difficulties with the installation. This is definitely not the experience we want to hear. I'd encourage anyone who runs into hiccups to call us, we'll be more than happy to assist over the phone or even a video call. There are tips to dealing with anything that comes up. We are here to help! 901-214-5337
That's because about 2 weeks after we published this installation video, the 2018 models hit the market with the new LED headlights. We now include some small brackets to move the fuse box backwards to clear the headlights. This minor change allows the kit to work on all 2007 and up Tundra models. See pinned comment for link to the new instructions.
I dont even have a tundra and want this setup lol. This man is phenomenal and to the point at explaining things 10/10
Ha! Thank you! We have kits in stock if you'd like to get one coming!
Full Throttle group 25 batteries do not fit in this tray, for some reason the folks at Full Throttle make some of their battery group sizes about a half inch larger than the BCI dimensions. Just a heads up for people shopping around for batteries for this kit.
We have modified the Tundra tray to be able to fit the Full Throttle batteries now. More info at this blog article - www.genesisoffroad.com/newtraydesigns
As of 9/17/18, our Tundra kit is now compatible with all 2007-2021models, including the 2018 with LED headlights! The kit now includes 5 small brackets for moving the fuse box backwards about 1/2", plenty to clear the headlights. Please see our updated instructions here - www.genesisoffroad.com/v/instructions/tundradbk.pdf
2021 install, the fusebox has a tab on the back exit of the harness this extension gives absolutely no clearance as the hydraulic brake assembly is right there and that is hard lined in. If anyone has a fix let me know...I would really like to install this...
@@jhartmac100 Please send a picture of what you're seeing to info@genesisoffroad.com and we'll be happy to assist you!
I wish you had a kit for the 2000 to 2006 Tundras. Thanks, Russ
Love the look and function of the product however for any of you out there with a 2018 Tundra, just a heads up that none of the directions online will work with your truck. You will have to modify everything posted but the top plate kit that is provided. The battery box will not fit 100% you will need to modify your fuse box to the point of cutting off the back left foot and the front right foot. This leaves you with the front left and back right to relocate with the provided brackets. The headlights are the issue, way bigger or pultrude into the engine bay farther then any other year. The Factory Battery cables are also to short and will be "very tight" (need to be bent to fit). The company does not say "why" but, you must use a D25 battery (you will need 2 new ones, they are not for your truck but will function) because the terminals on a battery that is designed for your truck are in the wrong orientation for this setup. I had 2 new yellow top D36's that I could use but the +/- were backwards. I hope this helps someone at least to plan better! As I said, love the product! You just need a better plan and the "why" of things help make a plan better. Cost was $1450 with 2 battery's, and the Dual kit w/g screen.
As of 9/17/18, our Tundra kit is now compatible with all 2007-2021models, including the 2018 with LED headlights. The kit now includes 5 small brackets for moving the fuse box backwards about 1/2", plenty to clear the headlights. Please see our updated instructions here - www.genesisoffroad.com/v/instructions/tundradbk.pdf
Please contact us anytime you run into ANY installation issues, we are here to help! 901-214-5337 or info@genesisoffroad.com
Please tell me whether it is possible to replace these batteries with the maximum increased capacity of the same manufacturer with the same sizes. I have the highest level Audio System (2 class A amplifiers heat up to 115 degrees) which literally devour energy even with a minimum volume.
Man this ia a badass kit. What size alternator would you recommend? Thanks.
Is there a video for the g screen installation in the tundra
How do you hook up accessories? What kind of accessories? Examples?
Skip to about 1:40, it explains that you'll connect any aftermarket accessory wires to our power and ground bus bars. This includes low amp devices like LED lights or a CB, as well as high amp accessories like a winch or stereo equipment.
I have a 2021 Toyota tundra TRD pro the relocation tabs for fuse box doesn’t show in the instructions but I had to cut the fuse box leg with a razor blade in order to get batteries to fit
Sorry for the confusion. The video was shot before we started using the relocation tabs for some year models. Here's the link to the written instructions with details on how to move the fuse box back - www.genesisoffroad.com/v/instructions/tundradbk.pdf
Which one did you cut?
@@jhartmac100 I believe it was the one closest to the fender i’m not at home right now so I can’t check for you but they replied to my comment follow their link if that helps you any best of luck man 👍👍
Great looking product! I’m looking to run a power line back to the trailer connect area to run a power inverter in a trailer (will run a freezer for hunting purposes primarily.) Is this a viable solution for that? Any other videos that would show that?
Yes, we make a set of quick connect cables for this purpose. You can run one set of cables from your inverter up to the tongue, and install one set of cables from our battery kit to the rear bumper. The connectors will snap together to power up your inverter. You can see more details here - www.genesisoffroad.com/quickconnect-s/102.htm
Hi there. I do have question, im planning to put fridge to my truck. I have atleast 10 aftermarket lights to my truck i run winch as well. Do u think the dual battery can accomodate all the power i need without draining my battery. Im thinking to install solar or dual battery insted. Thanks
Absolutely! This is the perfect scenario for using a dual battery system. With our system installed, you will be able to power the fridge, lights, and everything else from the second battery. Even if you drain that second battery all the way down, you'll still be able to start your engine. A lot of people will also install solar panels to help recharge the batteries while the vehicle is turned off, giving you more run time for the fridge before you'll need to crank up to recharge.
Curious if I ran a inverter 3k watt off the accessory battery while the engine off would it possibly drain it quickly? I do realize it depends also on what I have plugged into the inverter as welll.......or do you recommend running the motor when using an inverter? And thanks for this VID......I am definately going to purchase this setup.
It depends entirely on what you are running on the inverter. If you're just charging a laptop at about 3-4 amps, it will last a long time. If you're running a electric blanket at 15 amps overnight it won't last as long. The Group 25 battery from Full River has about 63 amp hours of capacity. Loosely speaking, this means you could run a 1 amp accessory for about 63 hours until the battery is "dead", which is about 10.5v.
Need another .75 inches for the fuse box. I just broke a headlight because of it. This video has an extra inch perimeter
The Tundra kit comes with some small brackets to move the fuse box backwards by 1 inch. You can see how to install those in the written instructions located here - www.genesisoffroad.com/tundra-dual-battery-kit#tab-8
Is the install for a 2012 Tundra Base V8 4.6 the same as in this video? I know it is supported. I'm more concerned with any additional steps that might be required particularly if cutting of anything is needed. Last question, would Morimoto LED headlights complicate anything? Thanks!
Yes it's the same. The battery compartment area is the same on all the Tundra configurations. You should be ok with those headlights, our kit comes with some little brackets to move the fuse box backwards about 1" to clear the OEM LED headlights. Be sure to check out the written instructions for more details on that - www.genesisoffroad.com/v/instructions/tundradbk.pdf
@@GenesisOffroad Thank you for the quick reply. Order will be placed tomorrow.
This is awesome. Thanks Genesis. The pre-wiring is so freaking helpful and honestly probably the reason most hold off. Ordering and installing as I have externals (Dometic, fans, lights, etc) to run intermittently. Have a similar setup in my Sprinter and the two batteries keep me off grid well over a week w/o running the vehicle. Nice, clean setup guys and that “Boost Button” is amazeballz. Question, will both show up on ODB status monitors, or show as one?
Can you send me this link to order this exact for my tundra please....?
Sure! www.genesisoffroad.com/2007-2021-Toyota-Tundra-Dual-Battery-Kit_p_52.html
@@GenesisOffroad looking for this same set up for my 2019 tundra. Link says kit is 599.00 battery sold separately? What’s exactly in the kit just the connectors? I thought the whole battery and everything comes in one
@@allensaelee6707 Our kit comes with the new steel tray to hold 2 batteries, all the installation hardware you'll need, and the top lid that has the smart isolator, bus bars, boost button, G Screen port, and all the wiring completely done for you out of the box. You'll add 2 Group 25 batteries of your choice.
@@allensaelee6707 Our kit includes the new steel tray, all installation hardware, and the top lid that secures the batteries has the smart isolator, boost button, bus bars, and all the wiring integrated into it for you. Good quality AGM batteries cost around $285 - $385 each. We offer the Odyssey and Full River brand batteries for sale on our website if you'd like to get it all dropped off at your doorstep. We have everything in stock for fast shipping!
Any concern that the positive post is so close to the metal vehicle frame?
It's tight in there for sure. If it's a little too tight for comfort, there's a couple solutions. You could add a couple layers of electrical tape onto the metal fender area closest to the post clamp, or some other type of insulating material. Or the other option is to just bend that area back out of the way a little. That spot closest to the clamp is thin sheet metal, and that spot is not structural, so it is easy to use some pliers to pry that area back away from the clamp to gain an extra 1/4" - 1/2" of clearance.
Genesis,
Thank you for a great video. I have a question do I need to get the genesis batteries? Will this work in optima’s batteries or any other batteries?
Here's a short video that will answer your questions about which batteries to use - ruclips.net/video/JopB0I1CRzY/видео.html
Now is this figment okay for a 2007 4.7 ??
Tattos & Tactical Arms Yes this kit will fit your truck! In stock for fast shipping too!
With this kit is it possible to run power to the back of my truck for a power inverter set up?
Certainly! You can think about the inverter just like any other accessory - just hard wire it to the power & ground bus bars. That way anything you run from the inverter will draw power from your accessory battery and won't drain down your cranking battery.
If I may ask a question please, Will this system work with the RedArc DC to DC battery charger and/or the Redarc Redvision system to power accessories?
Yes. You can add a dc-dc charger and/or the Redvision system onto our dual battery system.
@Genesis Offroad Last question if I may please, would a power inverter help/hinder or even necessary for this system with or without the RedArc Redvision/Battery Charger? I'm so sorry for the question but I'm trying to get the best use in my 2020 Tundra or trade for F-150 Powerboost.
@@Ratonc2 an inverter is used to change the vehicle’s 12 volt DC power into 110 volt AC power. If you want to use AC powered devices like your laptop, coffee pot, power drill, etc, from your vehicle, then you will need an inverter. Just need to think about what you want to do.
Excellent educational videos. Please mention about the cost of the kit.
Thanks
Are you able to ship overseas to China? Have a 2010 Sequoia and would love to install this kit.
Eric He Sorry, we do not ship to China.
Would this be compatible with a blue seas fuse block? Would be awesome if it is!
Absolutely! We are simply giving you the extra battery capacity. You would connect an auxiliary fuse block to our power and ground bus bars. This way, once the batteries drop below about 12.7v, all your aftermarket accessories running through the Blue Sea block will continue to run from the second battery so they don't drain down your cranking battery.
which battery would i hook my winch too? Thanks Zach
We recommend connecting your winch cables to the tall center studs on the power & ground bus bars. This way, while your engine is running and the isolator has the batteries connected together, your winch will draw most of its power from the alternator, but if the alternator can't keep up, the excess demand will be spread across both batteries. This way your winch isn't drawing one battery down and get end up stuck and with a dead battery, which makes for a real bad day!
The battery that is used in the video, how good are they compare to the stock? They are half the size but are they as good or better then the stock?
The Odyssey and Full Throttle brands that we offer have more cold cranking amps and more reserve capacity than the stock battery.
@@GenesisOffroad looking forward in the near future to getting your product. Thanks for the quick reply.
I see you used the Odyssey for the Tundra, can you say which model. Both the 2014 Tundra and my 2017 Tundra, 5.7L V8, uses a 27F battery; a rather large battery and a crappy one if it's the original Toyota battery. Neither Odyssey or Optima make that size. Thus, I'm assuming the two batteries you have from Odyssey are smaller each on their own?
Our Tundra kit uses Group 25 size batteries. The Odyssey part number is 25-PC1400. That one has 850 cold cranking amps and 65 amp hours of capacity - a lot of power in a compact package!
@@GenesisOffroad Much Thanks. I will be going with your system. When Toyota tells you their 27F battery is inadequate, that speaks volumes. I have a local installer here who has installed your system in other trucks and they speak highly of it; Audio Mobile (Oakland CA).
Do you have a design or kit for 2018 gmc siearra 5.3L
No, but we do have a couple universal options that may work for you. If you have a spot to put one more battery, you could use our universal single battery kit and link that one to the cranking battery, giving you a remotely mounted dual battery kit. More info on that one here - www.genesisoffroad.com/Single-Battery-Kit-p/153-stbk.htm
Do I need to upgrade my alternator ?
Joey 206 No, your stock alternator will work just fine.
How much for accessories and battery?
This Set-up fit on Tundra 2022+ also?
No, sorry it doesn't fit the new Tundra model. The battery area under the hood is completely different. You could check out some of our universal options to see if they could work for you - www.genesisoffroad.com/Universal_c_27.html
I’ll wait for Gen3 tundra video. Thank you.
Will north star group 24 fit?
Yes..all group 24s should have the same overall dimensions..If the sizes weren't standard for manufacturers to follow..it would defeat the whole purpose of having group sizes..You may not wanna be messing around with your truck if your deductive reasoning is at the extreme deficit level as it is apparently..He said you can use any group 24 battery..Which part of that is confusing?? Back away the tool box there..😅
@@muthatrucka76 Ended up installing a commercial grade and extending my wiring myself. Thanks for the smartmouth, condescending, keyboard warrior reply their sport
Very cool product. I was just going to your website to purchase one until I experienced "sticker shock". If it were $300-350 (at most) I would have jumped all over this bc it is exactly what I am looking for. But $530... I just shook my head and will look for a different solution. You really have an amazing solution and I would love to buy one. When you guys decided to come down on the price I will be all over it. (please dont take this as a negative comment towards your dual battery solution, I just dont see over $500 worth of technology there)
Hi Brian, that's ok, we understand the full kit is not for everyone. We also offer each of our vehicle-specific kits as a DIY version, which includes the new steel battery tray, all the installation hardware, and a bare top lid to hold the batteries down. The Tundra DIY kit is $199. This is popular with folks who want to add their own isolator device and do all the wiring themselves. If you have the time, the tools, and the skills to wire up a dual battery system, that's awesome! You'll still need a place to put the batteries though. Feel free to call with any questions.
The battery on the right should have the positive at the other end away from the metal body work. Otherwise, excellent design.
Curtis Forbes Unfortunately that’s not possible. That would put the negative post at the front, and the factory negative wire is not long enough to stretch up to the front. You can use some pliers to easily bend the edge of that sheet metal down to gain some extra clearance by the positive post, as well as placing a couple layers of electrical tape over that area for additional protection.
Genesis Offroad I took another look at it and realized you’re right. You’d have to have batteries with opposite pole placement and if you haven’t had any issues, it obviously works.
So if the title of the video says 2007+ but the first thing you say in the video is how your going to install this 2014 and up kit....what am I to assume?
Good catch! As of 9/17/18, our Tundra kit is now compatible with all 2007-present models, including the 2018 with LED headlights! The kit now includes 5 small brackets for moving the fuse box backwards about 1/2", plenty to clear the headlights. Please see our updated instructions here - www.genesisoffroad.com/v/instructions/tundradbk.pdf
do have plans on making one for a colorado?
Not at this time, but it just depends on the demand. If we start getting requests for it, then we'll definitely add it to the list!
Got a 2017 Tundra and wanting aux battery so will be taking a look and enquiring around about your product. One side question, with the smart alternator on Tundras, what are the concerns of undervoltage recharge on an AGM battery? A dc/dc charger might be a good option and not hard with your system as an add on. Otherwise, nice job in taking on a problem I hear from several frustrated Tundra owners including myself and overcoming a lack of engineering vision at Toyota. Why you aren't on their payroll already is itself head scratching.
The alternator will vary its output based on what the vehicle is using and the charge level of the battery. Our system allows the cranking battery to charge first. Once it is above 13.2v for 2 minutes, the smart isolator will link the batteries together so the aux battery can be charged. When you connect 2 batteries together in parallel, they will approximately average themselves out, so if your aux battery is low when it is connected to the main, the alternator should increase its output to charge it up. Just keep in mind though that the alternator's primary job is to provide power while the engine is running - it's not a 'battery charger'. Yes, it will charge the batteries, but that's not its primary function. If you have a deeply discharged battery, it's still best to hook up a trickle charger to top it off overnight. A dc-dc charger will take the output of the alternator and boost it by 20-40 amps, which helps charge the batteries faster, which can be helpful is some situations. Hope this helps!
Genesis Offroad Thanks. Definitely taking a hard look at your product as I do like the simplicity and the best part is everything is in the engine bay. One other question and that has to do with running a 3rd battery for camping power either located in the truck bed or a trailer. Pros and Cons of doing this not just with your system specifically but the load on the Tundra charging system? I may have more questions but I'll contact you more directly and address those issues there. I really do appreciate you folks taking this issue on for so many of us frustrated Tundra owners over having to locate an aux battery outside the engine bay.
@@wkmac2 Interested in your progress. I too have a 2017 Tundra and give Genesis system a serious once over. I want to move my various lights and power to winch to an auxillory battery.
Joseph, not done anything just yet as I just laid out $3k for King Shocks on all 4 corners. I do like how simple the Genesis system is but leaning more and more towards using RedArc components and mounting the aux battery in the rear of my Tundra. Otherwise, if just for winch/lights use, I'd give strong thought to the Genesis Off Road setup if I were you and then run everything through something like an S-Pod. Genesis to their credit has made a setup that is very plug and play or in other words, so easy the Geico Caveman could do it!
@@wkmac2 I totally understand the $3k. I'm chuckling and shaking my head for what I've done and spent, but come on, love my rig now. I have the 2017 Limited which had all that faux chrome stuff. I've dropped $26,000 into my rig; thank GOD for tax returns and overtime. First, changed exhaust from single to TRD Dual exhaust, TRD rear anti-sway, TRD cold air intake, TRD skid plate and skid plate for 38 gal gas tank. Installed a rear under seat vault from ESP Truck Accessories; great guy who worked for Toyota for years (based in LA). All the standard chrome plastic removed and switched to color match (Magnetic Metallic Grey); rear bumper ends, mirrors caps, grill and Toyota emblems. Switched headlights to TRD black headlights. Anything Toyota, was done by dealer as covered under warranty and my dealer charges a fair price, odd for San Francisco where you need gold bars for most purchases here with the cost of stuff. Not sure if you're familiar with SparksParts; Toyota dealer in N. Carolina who has a site that sells after market parts and color match parts. Installed a Lock'r Down center console vault (Amazon). BakFlip tonneau cover. Viper alarm with activators for tonneau, tailgate, hood and if truck is tilted to activate to prevent wheel theft. Then, $4700 just for Stage 4 Icon Dynamics with rear EXT system. Then came Toyo 285 18x9 tires, Fuel rims, SSO (Southern Style Offroad) front bumper, WARN Winch 10000. Then, another $4100 in lighting; replaced standard fog with Rigid defused SAE fogs w/conversion kit, Rigid Spot/Driving bar in SSO bumper, Baja Chaser light in grill hood, the cream of the crop; amber strobes inside my back-up lights, bed light, on the Bush Wacker flares, Rigid recessed lights in rear bumper and rock lights under the side steps/rock sliders. I'm a first responder and on any given trip, where I go back road hiking, I get caught up responding to accidents. Standard emergency lights just don't cut it. The lights are controlled by LED screen sPod (mounted inside the sun glass holder) with the phone app as well. I also installed (2) UnderCover swingcase storage units; LOVE THEM - Amazon for $286 for two. Lastly, converted all exterior lights to LED through Headlight Revolution. The dealer was behind me all the way and now plan to take on truck conversion projects. I had 4Wheel Parts do a lot of the heavy stuff. I follow Tundradude34 on RUclips. I agree with him 100%. If Toyota makes anything for your truck, go there first, such as the dual exhaust, as the system is designed for the truck, and it's on the dealer if something go wrong, which I've had no issues. Yeah, could have bought a 2nd car, but I love to be out doors, have a 19' Airstream and love back mountain hiking, off roading, etc; so, it was worth every penny. Regarding Genesis, this is a simple system. The other options for me to consider is like you, put the Aux in the back and install a compressor in the engine compartment.
How much for that ?
Please visit our website for current pricing on the kit and options. www.genesisoffroad.com/TundraDualBatteryKit-p/182-ttudbk.htm
$ almost $600 without the batteries... plus tax... shipping etc close to maybe $800 and still no batteries
Does this work for a 2018 Toyota Sequoia?
We haven't had an opportunity to look at the Sequoia yet. If you'd like to email some pictures of your battery compartment area, we can probably tell if it may work or not - info@genesisoffroad.com
what model is the odyssey battery?
The Tundra kit uses Group 25 size batteries. The part number from Odyssey is ODP-AGM25. It's available on our website here - www.genesisoffroad.com/performance-group-25
Great video thanks
Just curious. Why doesn't this fit the 07-13 model Tundra?
I believe we have a new solution for the 07-13 models. The headlights on those years are different, and they just barely interfere with the battery tray. We have some new brackets to move the fuse box backwards about 1 inch to give clearance for the headlights. We have shipped a couple kits out to customers with the 07-13 Tundra for test fitting. Hopefully we will get confirmation that it worked soon! Also, we have confirmed that these brackets do work for the 2018 model with LED headlights!
I will keep my eye out. I want to run duals in the engine bay if possible to power the future winch.
Is the kit available on your website for 2013 Tundra?
Joseph Afonso Not just yet. We are just waiting on confirmation from a couple customers that the new brackets allow us to clear the headlights. Then I’ll add an option on the Tundra page to select your year model.
@@GenesisOffroad When do you intisapate a response?
I like that buddy how much all of that?
Please visit our website for the most current pricing - www.genesisoffroad.com/TundraDualBatteryKit-p/182-ttudbk.htm
Hold up...wait...so this setup without the batteries is 599??? where is THAT cost at??? these parts (other than your widget) are COTS parts, for about 75 bucks, you can do pretty much all of this in a few hours.. You also technically dont even need your overpriced tray. man...Come on!!! 599??? yeah... This is why you're never found at overlanding events. GTFOH with 599... RIPOFF.
If you have the time, the tools, and the skills to put together a dual battery system with all the same features, without a new tray to hold the two batteries, for $75, that's awesome! We've heard from several customers who have tried to reproduce what we have put together for less money, and they all come back to us and say yeah I should have just bought the kit. You'll be even further ahead when you see our new Gen 3 kit for $699. www.genesisoffroad.com/gen3-tundra-dual-battery-kit
I thought the same thing. Hell, I just need a tray, but I suppose I could fabricate one. BTW the cost is $699 now. Ridiculous!
Genius!! May need this!!!
Definitely need this! :)
Good looking logo animation 😉
What is failure rate of that solenoid?
The Cole Hersee solenoid used in our kit is rated for 1 million connect/disconnect cycles. It's also water and dust proof, and heat and shock resistant so it is very durable. Since we launched this kit for the Tundra, 4Runner, and Jeep JL back in early 2018, we have not had a single failure. However, if it were to fail, the modular nature of our kit would make replacing it very easy.
Why add weights to your truck. Weight reduce speed
If you're building a racing truck, then you probably wouldn't be shopping for a dual battery system. If you want to run accessories with the engine off without killing your cranking battery, then this is the perfect product for you!
No discount code for watching the whole video?! Had to ask, awesome unit! 👏
haha! nice try!
Do you offer sponsorships?! I have 8 instagram followers.... Just messing with you Shane! Nice kit.
Influencer status!
I have a 2011 Tundra and got the 2nd gen kit. Honestly, I am not happy with it.
The installation is NOT as easy as it showed in the video🤕🤕. First, when relocating the fuse box, it is no way that you can move the whole box backward because the hydraulic system is blocking the way. I end up needing to cut the extra part of my fuse box, then I was barely able to push the fuse box backward. Even this, the battery tray cannot fit in. I need to cut the headlight assembly, the stuck-out part, and the unused leg of the fuse box. Finally, I can put the tray in. Oh no, the tray was touching the engine and there was no way I could move it. In order to move it away from the engine, I need to trim the battery tray, so that I can slide it under the headlight assembly. Finally, the tray was mounted, and the batteries were in. Then I found out that the top plate bolts were not lining up. I would need to drill new holes for it.😡😡😡😡😡 All cables were connected except the positive pole. The factory-positive wire is not long enough to connect it.
It took me 2 days to figure out things one by one. And there is no way to go back because of the modification. I like the idea of dual battery but the junk design has really disappointed me. Beware, people, it is not an easy installation. I am still waiting for a part for the positive pole connection. It means I haven't tested out the system "yet". Wish me luck!
I'm sorry to hear you had some difficulties with the installation. This is definitely not the experience we want to hear. I'd encourage anyone who runs into hiccups to call us, we'll be more than happy to assist over the phone or even a video call. There are tips to dealing with anything that comes up. We are here to help! 901-214-5337
why he say 2014 and up when title says 2007+? lol
That's because about 2 weeks after we published this installation video, the 2018 models hit the market with the new LED headlights. We now include some small brackets to move the fuse box backwards to clear the headlights. This minor change allows the kit to work on all 2007 and up Tundra models. See pinned comment for link to the new instructions.
will this work on a 1st gen sequoia?
will this work in a 2018 sequoia ?
We haven't had an opportunity to test it in a Sequoia yet. If you'd like to test for us, please email shane@genesisoffroad.com for more details.