I've had this same occurrence with a 2008 tundra 4x4 5.7L, I also noticed a split between a underpowered battery issue and an under tightened terminal to the battery. I have also experienced the same failure with other Japanese autos. I've since learned that most if not all Japanese oems are related with each owning 25-30% of the others company. And they all use a connector similar or exactly the same battery terminal ends found on Toyotas. Whether its engineered this way for resistance or cost effectiveness, I am swapping the partial contact surface OEM connection to a more solid slide over connection to maintain a better connection for the conditions my vehicle experiences underneath the hood/bonnet area during its use locally here in Maine with our extreme environment of temps and humidity, pollen and dust and lots of bugs this time of year. One memorable example was a dragonfly, giant bee and pine beetle all being dried and part dead on the battery itself. And no I dont drive around with the hood open or off.
When I traded my 2017 Tundra in 2019 I was on my third OEM battery . And Toyota would say well you now have 7 more years warranty on the battery. The battery on my 2019 TRD PRO TUNDRA looks like the top is warping and might be from the summer heat of Arizona.
Hello Sir! If I may please ask you a question regarding the battery upgrade on this video? I carry an ARB 35L fridge on long road trips so my question is if that battery is sufficient to keep my fridge running for 2 to 3 day trips without draining the battery?
I run the Battery Guard 2000®. It Monitors the Battery voltage and if it drops below 12v it disconnects everything but the ECU. If it triggers all you do is push a button, reconnecting the battery and start the rig. Saved my butt a few times in my van. You can also use it to disconnect the battery which I use when Parking at trailheads. I have not worried about a dead starting battery for a decade or so.
Think I would look into why the OEM battery drained so quickly. I own a 19 4Runner TRD Pro and it sits in my driveway weeks at a time. Mine fires up without issue every time I need to go somewhere. I would purchase a amp meter, clip on style, to see how much drain your battery is seeing. A possibility might be the dash cams sensitivity threshold. Maybe you could adjust the motion sensitivity to ignore slight rocking of the truck such as motion caused by the wind. I’m not sure how your dash cam works however. Good luck
Richard Jones yeah dash cam in parking mode is definitely sensitive enough to pick up subtle movements in front and to the truck. I prefer it this way to ensure I capture anything that may give info if something were to happen (in case someone backs into my rig while parked or someone tries to “inspect” my ditch lights). I’m hoping this new battery will prove to be an ample solution 👍
Just bought a 2020 tundra. My 15 ram battery just went out on the ram I traded after 4,5 years . Replaced it with a Duracell group 27 agm from Sam's club for 179.00. I guess there made my East Pemn and has a 36 month warranty which is standard. North star is top of the line.
I have a 2017 Tacoma Sport that is stock except for brake controller. I tow a 17ft fiberglass travel trailer. I had to replace the battery in it earlier this year. The warranty on the truck did not cover the battery and the battery was an odd duck just like you said. It also was a very poor quality battery. I replaced it with a better quality name brand. A item that should be brought up to Toyota. I know your pain. Thank for sharing your adventures.
I live in Metro Vancouver, and just by coincidence, I too got a Northstar battery installed in my 2019 Tacoma a few days ago. It's one of those dual start/deep cycle batteries like yours, but with a different decal on it. Crazy expensive, eh? I don't have too much in my truck yet except for an ARB fridge and a Blackvue dash cam, but I don't want any complications when I'm camping out in the middle of nowhere and I can't start my truck up. See you on the trails!
Thank you for the tip.. Have 16 tundra with genessis dual battery installed less than a year and it still drained main battery all the way down..... not sure what caused, however toyota service center suspected either bad battery from the start or winch might be the reason.... definitly will try out the battery showing on video....Hopfully i can find same type for genesis sytem.
You guys looked so good together!! Florida?? we have 27 degrees, When I got my Rogue I had to replace the battery pretty quickly and I was crabbing about $198 battery gosh those batteries are expensive. Luckily I have no extras on it.
Rogue Life yeah that’s the down side of these batteries, is that they’re expensive. But I consider it an investment to prevent bigger headaches down the road 😉👍
My stock battery in my 2018 Tundra died after 11,0000 miles. Still under warranty but didn't want to replace a crap battery with another crap battery so just got an Optima Yellow top deep cycle instead. Haven't had any issues since and now due to Corona have no place to go but the battery is good to go.
My stock Tundra battery only lasted 17k miles. I didn’t bother replacing it with another cheap “so called OEM battery” Instead I went with an Optima . New car factory batteries just don’t last. It’s the lowest bidder situation . You get what you pay for.
Damn Ed, just get a battery tender when you are gone for extended period. It will maintain your battery and keep it charged. Don't know if you have 120 plug near your parking space?
@@KrokemOutdoors I use the Genesis system, powered by two group 31 Odyssey batteries for my 2016 4Runner. The entire kit fits into the factory battery tray. Install was relatively easy, too. So far it works as advertised. Well worth the coin spent. Cheers, Mate.
@@officialyasir The Genesis system in my vehicle. Sits atop two group (Dual cycle) 31 Odyssey batteries. Each battery is a 100 Amp Hour or 1100 CCA or 2150 Pulse HCA or four times the 525-575 CCA of one Toyota stock battery. The system separates the two batteries. One side for accessories and one side for the starter. There is a solenoid system atop the batteries, that will connect both batteries within two minutes after start up. Allowing both batteries to be charged. Also there are two switches, that allow both batteries to be connected in unison. One atop the Genesis unit and one that is hard wired inside the vehicle. That one internal switch shows the battery voltage and allows for both batteries to be joined. If one of the two batteries is low. Also known as "Boost Mode". In turn, it powers the vehicle and all the lighting, front winch, air compressor, fridge, communications and varied accessories. Again, well worth the coin spent. Cheers, Mate.
Probably for 99% of us, 99% of the time, the standard battery is just fine. The big deal, IMO, is inspect (look at the damn thing) and make sure if it is having build-up, you clean it. If it has water kegs, top them off with distilled, as needed. AND, don't walk away with lights left on--headlights or interior lights. Last, at the 1st sign of any weakness, get a new one. You will be fine that way. PS If any of them are not keeping their charge, youtube how to check your alternator, easy to do. And if that is the cause, in addition to a new alternator, take the battery back to costco, who doesn't seem to care why the battery did not last the specified time--they just give you a new one--not a pro-rated one, just a brand new battery. Unfair--to them, IMO, but it seems to be their rule.
@Ed How did you like the battery after few months of use. I am debating X2 versus dual Genesis and X2 looks like a good option for not hardcore off-grid use. I am curious about your feedback.
It’s been solid. Never had a drain issue during the entire time of ownership , and it’s been placed under the exact same conditions as the stock battery
Did you look at the camera footage to see if that was the case for your drain? Either way a portable battery pack is the ticket, especially if you had that problem before.
Bert Kelly yeah it was definitely the dash cam. My previous truck did the same with its stock battery with just the camera connected to the battery. Jump pack is definitely high priority on the growing list 🍻
Jordon Cloutier so far my understanding is that the truck charger should be fine unless if the battery is fully discharged,at which point I’ll need an agm specific charger 👍
@@KrokemOutdoors you are correct . The trucks alternator will work fine for keeping it charged . If you were to completely discharge the battery it's best to have a AGM compatable external charger
A dual battery system is the solution. You are in the middle of nowhere too often not to have that reassurance and peace of mind it will bring. Your going to add more things eventually that will draw even more.
G'day from Oz...agree with second battery. All accessories except winch should go to second battery? I also believe that AGM batteries don't like engine bay heat. All the best for the festive season and New Year...
Nigel Naughton I have jumper cables, but no jumper battery pack. There was no one in the area for the jump, so I called roadside assistance since I pay monthly for the service anyways
@@KrokemOutdoors you really need one of those small jumper packs especially for all the adventures you do. It's saved me a million times in my 80 Land Cruiser. Just make sure it's a good one. Lots of imposters out there. Hint; the noco is a waste of money. Merry Christmas!
@@KrokemOutdoors battlebornbatteries.com/shop/12v-lifepo4-deep-cycle-battery/ About a $1000 with tax. Expensive but, way better imo with linear usable power all the way will till the end.
You need to top off AGM batteries periodically. The standard fuse, if it's like my 4Runner doesn't give the full 14 voltage to charge the battery so it never gets to 100% Get a mini-fuse alternator voltage booster to allow the alternator to give more voltage to the AGM www.ebay.com/itm/Low-Profile-Mini-Fuse-Alternator-Voltage-Booster-Toyota-Tacoma-4Runner-Tundra/163965196862?hash=item262d165a3e:g:GgoAAOSwSrNaMwaR . Also get a NOCO G7200 which you can use to keep the AGM topped off smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B004LWTHP2/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 .
@@KrokemOutdoors have you looked at Odyssey battery, I've seen them reviewed by folks at T4R trail site? Give us also your long term experienced with this battery, interested to know since I live in the snow belt region.
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I've had this same occurrence with a 2008 tundra 4x4 5.7L, I also noticed a split between a underpowered battery issue and an under tightened terminal to the battery. I have also experienced the same failure with other Japanese autos. I've since learned that most if not all Japanese oems are related with each owning 25-30% of the others company. And they all use a connector similar or exactly the same battery terminal ends found on Toyotas. Whether its engineered this way for resistance or cost effectiveness, I am swapping the partial contact surface OEM connection to a more solid slide over connection to maintain a better connection for the conditions my vehicle experiences underneath the hood/bonnet area during its use locally here in Maine with our extreme environment of temps and humidity, pollen and dust and lots of bugs this time of year. One memorable example was a dragonfly, giant bee and pine beetle all being dried and part dead on the battery itself. And no I dont drive around with the hood open or off.
When I traded my 2017 Tundra in 2019 I was on my third OEM battery . And Toyota would say well you now have 7 more years warranty on the battery. The battery on my 2019 TRD PRO TUNDRA looks like the top is warping and might be from the summer heat of Arizona.
My battery was done after 31 months of use. Covered under warranty but stock batt no good. But Truck Is awesome!!
Keep us posted on how well the new battery does, looks like an excellent choice...
John Ganshow definitely. I have plans to test it in a similar scenario, so I’ll keep you posted 👍
Hello Sir! If I may please ask you a question regarding the battery upgrade on this video? I carry an ARB 35L fridge on long road trips so my question is if that battery is sufficient to keep my fridge running for 2 to 3 day trips without draining the battery?
I run the Battery Guard 2000®. It Monitors the Battery voltage and if it drops below 12v it disconnects everything but the ECU. If it triggers all you do is push a button, reconnecting the battery and start the rig. Saved my butt a few times in my van. You can also use it to disconnect the battery which I use when Parking at trailheads. I have not worried about a dead starting battery for a decade or so.
River rat I’ll have to look into this device. Thanks for the suggestion!
Think I would look into why the OEM battery drained so quickly. I own a 19 4Runner TRD Pro and it sits in my driveway weeks at a time. Mine fires up without issue every time I need to go somewhere. I would purchase a amp meter, clip on style, to see how much drain your battery is seeing. A possibility might be the dash cams sensitivity threshold. Maybe you could adjust the motion sensitivity to ignore slight rocking of the truck such as motion caused by the wind. I’m not sure how your dash cam works however. Good luck
Richard Jones yeah dash cam in parking mode is definitely sensitive enough to pick up subtle movements in front and to the truck. I prefer it this way to ensure I capture anything that may give info if something were to happen (in case someone backs into my rig while parked or someone tries to “inspect” my ditch lights). I’m hoping this new battery will prove to be an ample solution 👍
Battery are just crap my tundra has 0 aftermarket stuff and drained on me twice now nearing 4 years old
Just bought a 2020 tundra. My 15 ram battery just went out on the ram I traded after 4,5 years . Replaced it with a Duracell group 27 agm from Sam's club for 179.00. I guess there made my East Pemn and has a 36 month warranty which is standard. North star is top of the line.
My 2013 Tundra still going strong on OEM battery. I'll look into this battery when I need one.
I have a 2017 Tacoma Sport that is stock except for brake controller. I tow a 17ft fiberglass travel trailer. I had to replace the battery in it earlier this year. The warranty on the truck did not cover the battery and the battery was an odd duck just like you said. It also was a very poor quality battery. I replaced it with a better quality name brand. A item that should be brought up to Toyota. I know your pain.
Thank for sharing your adventures.
I live in Metro Vancouver, and just by coincidence, I too got a Northstar battery installed in my 2019 Tacoma a few days ago. It's one of those dual start/deep cycle batteries like yours, but with a different decal on it. Crazy expensive, eh? I don't have too much in my truck yet except for an ARB fridge and a Blackvue dash cam, but I don't want any complications when I'm camping out in the middle of nowhere and I can't start my truck up. See you on the trails!
Thank you for the tip..
Have 16 tundra with genessis dual battery installed less than a year and it still drained main battery all the way down..... not sure what caused, however toyota service center suspected either bad battery from the start or winch might be the reason.... definitly will try out the battery showing on video....Hopfully i can find same type for genesis sytem.
You guys looked so good together!! Florida?? we have 27 degrees, When I got my Rogue I had to replace the battery pretty quickly and I was crabbing about $198 battery gosh those batteries are expensive. Luckily I have no extras on it.
Rogue Life yeah that’s the down side of these batteries, is that they’re expensive. But I consider it an investment to prevent bigger headaches down the road 😉👍
I have the same model and year of Tundra you do. This was very informative! I really appreciate all you input..Life is good.
Is this battery the same as a regular deep cycle battery like you would use in a boat or rv?
How many AH is the battery 🔋
I bought a power adapter that piggy backs off the rear view mirror which is on with accessory.
My stock battery in my 2018 Tundra died after 11,0000 miles. Still under warranty but didn't want to replace a crap battery with another crap battery so just got an Optima Yellow top deep cycle instead. Haven't had any issues since and now due to Corona have no place to go but the battery is good to go.
Awesome videos BTW ... been watching them back to back for a few hours now. Keep them coming!
Use Interstate batteries and you will never go wrong or a marine battery deep cycle!
That is the brand I chose to replace the stock one in my Tacoma at 2 years old.
Love your truck bro. Merry Christmas Edward
Backpacking With Jason thanks Jason. Merry Christmas bro !
My stock Tundra battery only lasted 17k miles. I didn’t bother replacing it with another cheap “so called OEM battery” Instead I went with an Optima . New car factory batteries just don’t last. It’s the lowest bidder situation . You get what you pay for.
Damn Ed, just get a battery tender when you are gone for extended period. It will maintain your battery and keep it charged. Don't know if you have 120 plug near your parking space?
Johnny A no 120 plug nearby. I need to move soon, lol
Look at genesis off-road for a dual battery option when you’re ready.
matt s thanks for the heads up! Quite possibly sometime in the middle of next year
@@KrokemOutdoors I use the Genesis system, powered by two group 31 Odyssey batteries for my 2016 4Runner.
The entire kit fits into the factory battery tray. Install was relatively easy, too. So far it works as advertised.
Well worth the coin spent. Cheers, Mate.
@@officialyasir The Genesis system in my vehicle. Sits atop two group (Dual cycle) 31 Odyssey batteries. Each battery is a 100 Amp Hour or 1100 CCA or 2150 Pulse HCA or four times the 525-575 CCA of one Toyota stock battery. The system separates the two batteries. One side for accessories and one side for the starter. There is a solenoid system atop the batteries, that will connect both batteries within two minutes after start up. Allowing both batteries to be charged. Also there are two switches, that allow both batteries to be connected in unison. One atop the Genesis unit and one that is hard wired inside the vehicle. That one internal switch shows the battery voltage and allows for both batteries to be joined. If one of the two batteries is low. Also known as "Boost Mode". In turn, it powers the vehicle and all the lighting, front winch, air compressor, fridge, communications and varied accessories. Again, well worth the coin spent. Cheers, Mate.
@@officialyasir You're welcome Lad. Cheers.
@@jackwalsh1468 Good info, thanks!
Put a small solar panel on the dash that plugs into lighter plug and it will keep it charged if it is in the sun.
How did you get your terminals to reach?
didn't need any extra wires . Current wiring was long enough
Probably for 99% of us, 99% of the time, the standard battery is just fine. The big deal, IMO, is inspect (look at the damn thing) and make sure if it is having build-up, you clean it. If it has water kegs, top them off with distilled, as needed. AND, don't walk away with lights left on--headlights or interior lights. Last, at the 1st sign of any weakness, get a new one. You will be fine that way. PS If any of them are not keeping their charge, youtube how to check your alternator, easy to do. And if that is the cause, in addition to a new alternator, take the battery back to costco, who doesn't seem to care why the battery did not last the specified time--they just give you a new one--not a pro-rated one, just a brand new battery. Unfair--to them, IMO, but it seems to be their rule.
@Ed How did you like the battery after few months of use. I am debating X2 versus dual Genesis and X2 looks like a good option for not hardcore off-grid use. I am curious about your feedback.
It’s been solid. Never had a drain issue during the entire time of ownership , and it’s been placed under the exact same conditions as the stock battery
Did you look at the camera footage to see if that was the case for your drain? Either way a portable battery pack is the ticket, especially if you had that problem before.
Bert Kelly yeah it was definitely the dash cam. My previous truck did the same with its stock battery with just the camera connected to the battery. Jump pack is definitely high priority on the growing list 🍻
Good choice going with a dual purpose battery .. AGM batteries require a specific charger . Might want to look into a charger that meets AGM specs
Jordon Cloutier so far my understanding is that the truck charger should be fine unless if the battery is fully discharged,at which point I’ll need an agm specific charger 👍
@@KrokemOutdoors you are correct . The trucks alternator will work fine for keeping it charged . If you were to completely discharge the battery it's best to have a AGM compatable external charger
Jordon Cloutier thanks! (Added to Cart) 🍻
I like the dual purpose battery. Never heard of that style. I've primarily used RedTops for starting batteries.
Rolando Nispiros yeah definitely more well suited for the driver with a lot of electrical gear attached to the battery 👍
@@KrokemOutdoors well, now we can all learn from your experience :)
A dual battery system is the solution. You are in the middle of nowhere too often not to have that reassurance and peace of mind it will bring. Your going to add more things eventually that will draw even more.
G'day from Oz...agree with second battery. All accessories except winch should go to second battery? I also believe that AGM batteries don't like engine bay heat. All the best for the festive season and New Year...
Waypoint Overland once I start adding a few more lights and a fridge, this is definitely the route I’m considering 👍
@@KrokemOutdoors Look forward to you sharing.👍
You'll love that battery! I have an Odyssey AGM and love it in my Tundra. The stock Tundra batteries are junk imo.
Andrew Jackson I agree!
My 2006 tundra stock battery lasted 10 yrs
Do you use or can you use footage from the dash cam?
Robert Cgraggen- NW SELF RELIANCE & OUTDOORS I do review the footage once in a while. It records in 1080p , so the quality is fairly decent
You had someone (Verizon) jump you? You don't carry a jumper pack?
Nigel Naughton I have jumper cables, but no jumper battery pack. There was no one in the area for the jump, so I called roadside assistance since I pay monthly for the service anyways
@@KrokemOutdoors you really need one of those small jumper packs especially for all the adventures you do. It's saved me a million times in my 80 Land Cruiser. Just make sure it's a good one. Lots of imposters out there. Hint; the noco is a waste of money. Merry Christmas!
Nigel Naughton thanks for the heads up! My list is now a little bit longer, lol 🍻
why not set up dual batteries
Tom Chong eventually 😉👍
Great video
Nice choice! I have the same battery.
Ryan Smiff 👊🙌
Great choice of battery Edward😉👍
James HURD thanks James 🙌
Why not just get a lithium battery like Battle Born?
Zenas Kim how much are those?
@@KrokemOutdoors battlebornbatteries.com/shop/12v-lifepo4-deep-cycle-battery/ About a $1000 with tax. Expensive but, way better imo with linear usable power all the way will till the end.
Can you please do a video on your dash cam setup and how good or bad it works with your Tundra?
Rek certainly something I’ll consider!
Nice choice.
You need to top off AGM batteries periodically. The standard fuse, if it's like my 4Runner doesn't give the full 14 voltage to charge the battery so it never gets to 100% Get a mini-fuse alternator voltage booster to allow the alternator to give more voltage to the AGM www.ebay.com/itm/Low-Profile-Mini-Fuse-Alternator-Voltage-Booster-Toyota-Tacoma-4Runner-Tundra/163965196862?hash=item262d165a3e:g:GgoAAOSwSrNaMwaR . Also get a NOCO G7200 which you can use to keep the AGM topped off smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B004LWTHP2/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 .
Bro，AGM is not good under engine hood，use EFB battery better
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@@KrokemOutdoors have you looked at Odyssey battery, I've seen them reviewed by folks at T4R trail site? Give us also your long term experienced with this battery, interested to know since I live in the snow belt region.
Battery looked like ass for such a new truck lol
Aux jump starter is a must if you are out in the woods all the time -Your GF is going to take away your man card LOL
Charles Show my engine bay is nice and dirty
Hahahahaha because its not a jeep Hahahahaha
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