Easily the best review of this fine watch on RUclips. Thanks for your thoughtful and fair review. I do think the 36 looks great on your wrist size. Would also point out that Tudor used the same sized hands and indices on the 36 and 41 which makes the 36 dial a bit more “crowded” than the 41. Yet the 41 looks slightly too large on most wrists. I think Tudor should have produced a 39 and called it at that.
a bit late to the party but just wanted to say that I think Tudor mods the ETA 2824-2 enough that they can call it an in-house movement, a bunch of other companies basically just make a 2824-2 clone and call it in-house anyway. Tudor changes out the shock absorber from Incabloc to KIF, same used by Rolex, among others. And they change the regulator from the standard ETAChron to Triovis, which is used by Vacheron Constantine, among others. They also take the time out to put in a different set bridge from the 2824 so there's no phantom date setting, which some manufacturers are too lazy to do.
I've owned my BB36 for the last 18 months - daily wear it and simply love this piece. Funny you mentioned in this video you were considering this and the OP36. I'm actually looking at adding an OP36 (blue) or OP34 (white) to contrast the black BB36.
Cracking review, I have two longines and an Omega. Just sold my hydroconquest to buy this. Cannot believe how much better quality this feels than my HQ. head and shoulders above. And I loved my HQ. Omg what a bracelet on this though. Different world
I commented before that I was underwhelmed when I tried this on but I'm still banging my head as to whether I'm buying this. Are there any owners to comment? Echo the hour/minute markers are too large. They seem to be pulled right off of the 41mm. No AR coating is disappointing. ETA vs in-house is fine I suppose too, but you get a Tudor in-house with more complications and larger dial (which always costs more) for $1000 more. Albeit this is my preference. Would you miss this over a Falcon S2 or a Smith's Everest?
BTW, not sure if this is a coincidence but there is a member on Watchuseek whose username matches your channel's name, who asked questions to the forum about ETA movements and what grade they are. If that was you, you should have given some credit to your fellow watch community for helping. Going to assume it was you - in any case, you brushed off ETA movements in this video but it took some convincing in the forum for you to see ETA top grade is an incredible movement.
Great review. How would you compare the quality of the finish compared to the Explorer that you owned? Is it basically Rolex quality case and bracelet with Tudor design and ETA movement? Or am I giving it too much credit?
Good question. It's hard to give a 100% honest evaluation since I owned the Explorer for many months and wore it a lot in the time and had this watch for a week, but I'll try. I would say the quality of both the polishing and brushed finish on the Rolex is perhaps slightly better, but it's not a mile ahead. They're close. Of course Rolex uses more expensive materials like gold on the markers and hands, but I doubt that's really a factor for most people. I think it's close enough to the same quality that we would be splitting hairs in favor of the Rolex. Obviously the Rolex 3132 inhouse movement is much more sophisticated, but the main differences are mostly stylistic in nature.
Beautiful watch. Perfect size (6.5" wrist here). I don't have a problem with an ETA movement, but there is no "top- grade", regulate-able, 2824. They should have used the 2892 instead. That's the top grade movement you're thinking of. Everything else the exact same, it would be worth $3000.00 with that movement. I (personal opinion) wouldn't pay more than $2000 with the 2824 in this particular watch. Would love to see a white dial variant, like the rolex OP 36mm in white (for comparison). Maybe next next year (2020).
Glad you got to review it and get your thoughts before your next purchase. I bought that one and a BB because I adore the snowflake hands (in part because it's a unique feature of the brand). I think in-house movements are nice but I think there's a bit of marketing hype around them.
Thanks for watching buddy. I like the watch a lot, especially since it's a pretty great value compared to the other things I'm looking at. My decision isn't any easier.
It is an old video but I stumbled on it researching the black bay 36. Very nice quality video and very nice review. It was realy helpfull. When I saw it next to the submariner I was wondering if the two dials and the crystals have the same diameter... it sure seemed that they did... Did you by any chance mesure it? Thank you!
I've owned this watch for the better part of 6 months. Honestly, my biggest disappointment is with its accuracy. I wouldn't trust the readings on any time grapher too much. My BB36 on my time grapher reads -1s/day, but in real life it's more like +6s/day. None of the different resting positions (dial up, crown up, or crown down) help slows the movement either. I was in a similar position as you. I was deciding between this watch, the blue dial 3-6-9 OP 116000, and the 114270. After buy this watch new, I really didn't connect with it. Mainly do to its accuracy and that nasty crown tube. I ended buying a used 114270 that runs about +2s/day. It's more comfortable to wear (the crown doesn't stick into my wrist, and it's a bit lighter). Also, I like the overall aesthetics more. IMO, BB36 looks more sporty while the 36mm OP looks more dressy. However, the 36mm Explorer has a nice balance between the two. Sure the BB36 has a better clasp and better lume, but it just lack the same charm as the Explorer. If I had waited another month, and found out about the BB58, I most certainly would bought that instead of the BB36. However, now I'm happy with my Explorer, so I'm not sure if I really need or want a Tudor in my collection.
Sorry to hear you didn't connect with the Tudor, but that happens. I had the same experience with the 39mm Rolex Explorer. I still think the Explorer design is one of the best, but something about the size and scale of the watch didn't work for me I guess, I never really was totally happy with it. I probably should have gotten a 36mm Explorer like yourself.
Really great review, thanks. It is my watch to keep. I tried a 114270 and never bonded with it. The hands for me is one of the best parts of the watch. The oversized crown and extended tube add character and some heft to it also. I got mine on the aged leather but enjoy the NATO that came with it. The NATO adds a different visual to the watch. It has a different case than an older explorer. It is bolder and to me looks more prominent on the wrist. This watch never did have to grow in me, it was an instant bond. I think you liked it, but sounded like you have a few lingering doubts. I think of the watch as more of an explorer style than a dive style. I'm glad you got a chance to try it out and hope you decide on it. It was a 2hr drive for me to see it in person. Looked at it walked out then right back in and got it. Haven't regretted it yet. A watch you might also consider is the IWC 36mm Pilot. Best review I have seen on this watch yet. Keep up the reviews. Thanks
Thanks for watching Charlie. You're right I have some doubts. I like the watch, don't get me wrong, but I think part of me feels like I'd wish I had gotten something else. The big draw for this watch for me is the price. Yeah it looks great, it's great quality, and there are only a few small things that I could complain about - but it's quite a good value I think. That said I think I like the OP36 better. I'll need to do a lot of thinking before I make a decision.
It’s a Chronometer Grade ETA, or at least mine is. Came with a COSC certificate and a serial number for the movement. To everyone complaining about the non in-house movement, bear in mind many in house movements are not COSC certified. Mine is still within COSC parameters after three years.
I might have an opportunity to borrow a Tudor BB Diver in the not too distant future. Hopefully that comes through, I'd love to see more of their watches.
This Tudor just feels a bit cheap. It was a very boring watch on the wrist and I was able to buy it way below retail price new which I still declined. I was interested in it at first but after wearing it I was very disappointed. You'd better get your hands on a GS or if you have a bit more cash to spare, the Rolex Explorer 36mm with whatever movement. Don't get me wrong, I like Tudor, and especially the Black Bay 58, but this watch just feels like no man's land. It's not a luxury watch and for the steep price you don't get much value. I'd rather buy for the same money a Longines with some interesting complications. I am not to keen on Omega either although I like the Speedmaster Tokyo, but saying you like it more than Rolex tells me you have never had either of those brands on your wrists. Even the Oyster Perpetual 36mm grape feels like 3 levels above this (that watch is actually pretty cool if you have a small wrist).
I've been thinking og buying bb36, but then I came across Monta Noble. I liked everything about it. The dial is much more interesting, the finishing is good and overall I thought that it's a better deal. Received my blue Noble several days ago and I have 0 regrets that I've got them. I can recommend Monta over this BB. At least considering them as well
Great review! Thanks for pointing out the 19mm lug width-I agree that’s quite a mistake and a deal breaker for many, myself included. Now I can finally get this watch out of my head!
Really informative video, thanku. Definitely a future purchase, such a classy and underated piece. I have a 1969 Tudor and it's still working perfectly, so buying a modern day Tudor is a soon to be must for me. Thanks again.
Very nice watch and excellent review! The watch looks great! The ETA movement in that watch is a great movement and it’s nice to see a watch of an appropriate size and not some gargantuan dinner plate watch that looks disproportionate on anyone’s wrist. 36mm to 41 mm are great watch sizes.
They should have made a 38 or 39mm. My dilemma is that 36 is too small for my taste and definitively does not satisfy me (my wrist is same size as yours) and 41 i am afraid is gonna be too big lol Now the new models are out with the 39 but I don’t really like the dials in terms of colours, they are not proper black or proper blue, does it make sense?
Best review of this watch ever...I saw and put this one on the wrist a few weeks ago, it seems like the Tudor's take on the Explorer, but it definitely has it's own style and is a beautiful piece. After looking at it more I couldn't shake the feeling that it has something off...but I just cannot put my hands around it, either the strange oversized hands or the lug size, which I didn't knew at the time it was 19 mm... Anyway, it's a good quality beautiful watch, but when it comes to the dial, I still think the explorer one's dial is absolutely perfect and any modification to it would make I worse, but I could modify some things about the Tudor.
Thanks oly. I'm with you I think the Explorer dial is one of the best designs for a simple 3 hand time only watch ever. I wish I had a 36mm Explorer to compare this watch to that would have been cool.
I have 6 inch wrist. What do you think about black bay 32 mm? Is it very small for my wrist? Because i cant find a tudor shop in my place to try it on my wrist
My BB36 has run bang on 0/day for the last 7 days. On its worst day it will gain a second. Tudor knows how to regulate a watch. I tend to "reward" my accurate watches with lots of wrist time and this on gets the most. Just as accurate as my BBB/B which is also exceptional. Thanks for the review! 36mm for the win.
Great video however I can’t help thinking that with the round markers the watch looks like a Dive Watch that has had the bezel removed or has fallen off. Just doesn’t look right.
Thanks for the great video. Agree: The square in the hour hand is a wee bit big IMHO. But a 20mm lug width would look weird on a 36mm case. It’s crazy how it doesn’t look crazy small compared to the sub.
I don't think a 20mm Lug would look strange on a 36mm watch. Unless I'm mistaken all the 36mm watches in the Rolex line (OP36, DJ36, etc) have 20mm lug widths.
Anyone know what size of screwdriver I need to use on a Tudor Black Bay 36 bracelet screws? Do I really need to remove the bracelet from the watch before I heat up to soften the loctite? Is it best to use a hollow ground screwdriver head? Many thanks in advance
JustBlueFish Watch Reviews , shock resistance , COSC grade accuracy, hairspring upgrade, modified balance , regulator AND ETC. it’s not a eta 2824 thrown into the watch and shipped out.
I have read about the enhancement from comments multiple times. But there is no official statement or article about it from Tudor, not even from their website. Anyway mine keeps excellent time.
I have nothing against a well regulated ETA 2824, but a glossy black dial + absence of AR coating : not good. Will look cheap under bad lightning, exact same reason why I sold my Explorer 214270. Also agree that 19 mm lug width is neither here nor there
Hi Guy. Great review. I've had this watch for 11 months and I'm quite happy with its versatility and performance. I completely agree with your observations about the lug width. I have a seven inch wrist and I sometimes feel that I should have purchased the BB41-- a 20mm bracelet would have been better; however, i think the watch retains an appropriate degree of presence on the wrist thanks, in large part, to the high contrast dial. T-shaped endlinks like those on the Rolex 214270 would also have amplified the masculinity of the BB36. As it is now, my wife is wearing it on a nearly daily basis since my recent purchase of a Tudor North Flag which is, irrefutably, made for a man.
Thanks for checking out the review Neil. I think different endlinks and/or a 20mm lug width would have really done this watch a lot of good. I like that it's more conservative in size, and couldn't see myself going for the 41mm version, but at the same time this one feels a bit too small.
I think it’s a gorgeous watch, and the snowflake hands are lovely; however, at this price point, AR coating should be an included feature. It’s an attractive price, but for these same features, you could pick up a few Stowa watches!
No worries mate. I should be the one thanking you, as you did all the hard work to make the video which I could sit back and enjoy. I did visit the tudor boutique for this black bay 36. But my wrist is smaller than women and I ended up liking black bay 32. The sales representative was a gentlewoman and she told that 32 is definately for women. So, I took it oof my wrist. lol. Finally I have spent my money on cartier tank small
I also think medium (which they label as large) would be so gentlemanly classic like Tom Ford on your wrist. I asked couple of women couple of times if the small one looks feminine on my wrist. Thanks God, they replied no
I have a 7.5 inch wrist and 34mm is my preferred size, 36mm is as big as I’ll go. I don’t think anyone really has to worry about this looking too small. We’ve been brainwashed by the 90s to think that watches have to be huge when 34-36 were the norm for decades, unless it was a diver.
Smaller flush crown, brushed finish, 38mm size (20mm lugs), quick adjust clasp. Without changing the price or anything else. And this would be a worldbeater.
I would imagine the adjustable clasp would increase the price a little, which might be worth it, but the other design elements probably should have been done from the beginning. Maybe not 38mm, I could go either way on that one, I like it at 36 fine.
Thanks for the review!! This is on my short list, too. I’m not sure if the 36 would be just a little too small for me, so I may look at the 41. I’m kind of with you on the snowflake hands. I think they will grow on me over time, at least they’re unique. I don’t have a problem with it having an ETA movement, at least it will be affordable to maintain. I also like that it has an Explorer 1 look, without the Explorer 1 price.
If the Exp 36 was still in production I would have to seriously consider it, but I don't really like buying pre-owned/vintage. I've run into more than my fair share of problems buying all sorts of things used. Far too often people are just trying to get rid of a problem they don't want to pay to have solved themselves, and I hate inheriting other peoples problems.
@@JustBlueFish . You make a great point and l considered it too. However l went for the Explorer1. The Tudor just looks and feels second best. The raised glass protects the polished ring so no scratches. You can pick up a 2005 explorer from a dealer easily for the same price which will of been serviced by them and guaranteed for 2/3 years. Plus it's a better and safer investment if that's your thing.
I've actually never gotten my hands on a 36mm Explorer. My local shops never have one in the pre-owned case. I'd like to check one out in person one of these days though.
Thorough & spot on review. My thoughts would be to consider to try on the new Tudor 58 if the style is of interest and overlapping the sub for you plus the new 39mm OPs (rather than smaller stable mates) and see if these connect. Just a thought
Nice review. I'm all for ETA movement, very cost effective for service. I'm disappointed with no anti-reflective on the crystal. 19mm for the bracelet width, is kind of a pain in the ass, but i was thinking of buying it with the bracelet and trying to work a deal for the leather strap, you are then covered for an option.
You like the same watches that I do. We have great taste. Right now, I think the Speedmaster Pro is my next watch (Sapphire sandwich on leather strap). I also like the Tudor Black Bay 36.
I’m considering this, a 36.5 seamaster and a rolex oyster at the moment. I have a speedmaster currently and want to add to it with a smaller 36mm watch . Tough choice!
I don't think that you understand people that are unhappy with generic movement instead of inhouse. In certain price point buyers want to know that work put in creating that watch is reflected in price, if you just regulate an ETA/put a Tudor logo on the rotor it's not enough for the price. I know that the movement is just one part of the watch but compare it to Nomos, inhouse, affordable and still great design.
You're not necessarily wrong, I just think you're missing the point slightly. What you and most people completely forget is the fact that ETA makes incredibly solid and reliable movements. The ETA 2824-2 and 2892-2 in their top/chronometer grade will easily be as accurate as anything Rolex produces if regulated properly. They're insanely durable and reliable as well as easily serviced. There is a reason why basically the entire watch industry stopped making in house movements and went to ETA, they were simply better and more reliable. People have forgotten about that. Are they the best and most exclusive movement in the world? No they're not, I agree with you. But they're fucking great movements :) Side note, Omegas in house calibers aren't really in house, they're an Omega design manufactured by ETA exclusively for Omega.
Vegan Dinner I went with the Tudor style, because it’s the only Tudor watch offering a 38 case. And I must say, I love this watch. Sure - it’s more dressy. But 38 mm is my sweet spot. Have also tried the BB 36 and ..well, It’s only 2 mm but it’s looking way smaller. Will get a used BB in two years or so for 1,5 k - that’s a good compromise
I think most folks regret buying a Tudor... in the sense that they really want a Rolex and they compromised on what they bought when they should have just saved longer. The only watch Tudor makes that interest me as unique is the Pelagos (ceramic bezel, titanium, amazing bracelet).
I could see that being the case. In a way I would feel like I'd be buying the Tudor because I kinda like it and it's much more affordable then my prefered Rolex.
Would you say Tudor is the best value luxury brand? Time to set some grail goals, Rolex is out of the question, but Tudor is priced close to what I'd be willing to pay without selling my kidneys :)
@@JustBlueFish I've been a fan of Omega designs since I was a kid and saw Brosnan's Bond movies. I thought Omega is priced closer to Rolex than Tudor though? Need to look it up.
@@JustBlueFish hmm, you're right, I had a look around, seems omega and Tudor are pretty close to each other price wise, at least for models I'm interested in. Time to start saving pennies)
I bought a Certina DS action 38mm, if you are looking for a small diver, it’s well worth a look. I’ve been so pleased with mine, super accurate, super comfortable, 80 hour power reserve. As long as your not a watch tart and can live with an eta movement and aluminium bezel, this is loads of watch fir the money.
I've tried on both this and the OP 36. The OP 36 wears significantly larger--a bit too big for me, in fact. But the lines of the OP case are so beautiful! I do like the idea of having a good, robust ETA that any good watchmaker could service. It's a tough choice! Both watches are absolutely brilliant.
Great watch! Looks great fits my taste right now. However the new black dial oyster perpetual in 36 will look just as good in 20+ years. I’ve liked the similar style Seikos since 1994 when I was gifted this obsession at 15 lol
Something about the OP36 dial that is appealing is that it's at least a little more unique then this dial. In my collection, having a Submariner already, it might be overkill to have 2 watches with almost the same dials.
JustBlueFish Watch Reviews the sunburst dial of the OP is really appealing, I find sunburst dials hypnotising.. lost looking at the dial and not even noticing the time pass.. January 2019 is when I turn 40 the OP will be watch to mark this occasion, even if I have to wait a little longer to get the money together
Good review. I have been looking at this one as well. There is another video out there where the owner gave the shiny bezel a brushed finish and it really changes the look of the watch. They should have made it that way to begin with.
I love the price, just within the limits of what I would term as attainable but without the guilt. I don't mind the ETA movement. In fact I prefer a more affordable movement like an NH35 or alike, as long as the timekeeping is not affected. My ultimate watch is excellent craftsmanship, but with the heart of a workhorse, that will run forever and if it did need servicing, you can go to your nearest, favorite watchmaker to be affordably serviced. Sizewise, I prefer it to be around 40mm.
Amen to that. Finally someone who is intelligent enough to realise that "in-house" does not mean "more quality". Of course when one pays $3000 for a fucking watch, one expects to get a proper built piece with a more original and better movement. Unfortunately that is not the case with this Tudor. It is sad that a $3000 watch has an ETA 2824 inside but at the same time it is a fucking tank of a movement who will not certainly let you down. I know because I have a Certina DS Action Diver which has the same movement - but it will only cost you around $800... go figure...
I did some research on the 2824 that tudor uses. It's Top grad from eta and they also do some mods to it and prob regulated it to 5 positions. There are $8K + IWC watches that use ETA movements.
This top grade ETA movement is very accurate. It is more accurate than some in house movements so could be viewed as preferable. It works particularly well for this watch as the 2824 is quite a thin movement whereas the Tudor in house movement is absolutely not a thin movement. The original black bay was a chunky watch (I bought when first released) and believe the in house variant is a little thicker now as a result of accommodating the movement. As I have had several years of just being 1 second out per day I don’t see the benefit in an in house movement. Rolex themselves have only just managed to match that ETA performance in my experience. This is more accurate than my SubC and GMT2. My new Datejust which has the latest gen of Rolex movement is perfect - I mean have had for 10 days and does not seem to have lost or gained a single second which is unheard of. All in all the use of ETA gets some stick but Tudor have created a well built watch with nice finishing and an accurate movement. For a watch with such a low price could not ask for more really!
Another great review of an interesting watch. I have the same feeling about the snowflake hour hand (and seconds hand). Together with all the almost bulky-appearing markers, it's just too much for me going on, especially in the 36mm version.
I am all in for Tudors. I have the bb in house movement with black bazel, i have the bronze and now i want to purchase the gmt. One downside could be the fact it's bulky a little bit. But not that much. If you have a rather bigger wrist, the black bays looks perfect.
I might be getting my hands on a BB Diver in the not to distant future to do a review on. Hopefully that comes through, I'm looking forward to that, although it's the older ETA model, which is some ways I think I might prefer to the newest version. We shall see.
JustBlueFish Watch Reviews no doubt that the ETA is as impressive as the in-house.See, I live in Moscow, there we have Rolex dealer but we don't have Tudor dealers in Russia, so i haven't seen an eta bb in person. It is a bit thinner they say, so in that term should be better. Anyway cool review, beautiful watch and I really like the details you get into in your reviews. Keep up the good work!
I have seen a couple of issues with the movement of the gmt from various forums. In regards to date wheel. I recently purchased 36, loved it. Wears better than my PO 8500. 7" wrist.
Before I knew any better about watches, I never thought there would be a maintenance fee you have to spend in every five years. Watches are similar to cars. One has to be able to purchase it, and one has to be able to maintain it as well. You cannot bring Patel and those high-end watches to a random shop and fix it. Otherwise, the official customer service centers will never accept and perform services on those watches. After knowing this, I am not too picky with the movements anymore. IWC charges 750$ish for their valju chronograph, I cannot imagine how much luxury watch brands charge for their in-house movements.
The price is a disgrace. I just yank the crown off my watch with pliers and give the insides a liberal squirt of WD 40 and then put the crown back on with super glue. After that it requires no further maintenance and it is perfectly correct twice a day.
JustBlueFish Watch Reviews thank you for your response ! I’m currently looking for a versatile everyday watch for my 18 birthday, that should last a very long time , and am considering the Tudor bb 36 . Originally I considered the speedmaster reduced too, but dismissed the thought , due to its high servicing costs. Are there any other watches you could recommend (up to about 2000€) ?
I don’t think either will be particularly collectible in the near term. They’re fairly common and lots have been made. I imagine there would always be an interest and demand for them, but I wouldn’t see them going up in value like a collectible typically would. 20 years after production stops, there’s no telling.
I thought the crown stuck out too far too before I hand the watch in my hands. In person, it's really not a lot in my opinion. Sure it could be flush to the case like any Rolex Oyster watch and that would be fine, but the way it is isn't really a problem.
I like the dial except for how it appears that the Tudor logo and Geneve script looks to be “shoved” down too close to the hands assembly by the oversized 12th hour triangle.
Ha!!! The Sub and Explorer had a baby! lmao. Very true though, makes sense. Will be picking this up eventually but gotta get the 16570 polar within the next few months first. thanks for the vid!
Well I had the Explorer 1 39mm version a while back and I ended up selling it, it didn't work for me. I wouldn't buy a 36mm Explorer because I don't like buying older used/vintage watches. If they still made the Exp in 36mm and I could get it new, I'd go for that over the Tudor BB.
After having mainly collected vintage watches im firmly in the camp of mid century sizes. The arbitrary notion that a a bigger watch makes it more masculine is nothing but a fad. One that is slowly starting to reverse.
I think most people would assume an implied level of higher quality with an inhouse movement, though I don't know if that would be entirely true or not, but that is the perception.
Very nice piece. I agree, the hour hand is too much for this watch though, just my opinion. I like snowflake hands but not on this watch. Other than that very nice.
We need more 36mm watches!!!!
For non-dive watches 36-38mm is my favorite size range generally.
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Easily the best review of this fine watch on RUclips. Thanks for your thoughtful and fair review. I do think the 36 looks great on your wrist size. Would also point out that Tudor used the same sized hands and indices on the 36 and 41 which makes the 36 dial a bit more “crowded” than the 41. Yet the 41 looks slightly too large on most wrists. I think Tudor should have produced a 39 and called it at that.
Besides the new Explorer 36mm this is the best watch for a one watch collection. I love it so much!
I have never had a watch fit my wrist so good as this one. I wasnt big fan untill i saw it in person and tried it on. And that clasp is SUPERB!!!
a bit late to the party but just wanted to say that I think Tudor mods the ETA 2824-2 enough that they can call it an in-house movement, a bunch of other companies basically just make a 2824-2 clone and call it in-house anyway. Tudor changes out the shock absorber from Incabloc to KIF, same used by Rolex, among others. And they change the regulator from the standard ETAChron to Triovis, which is used by Vacheron Constantine, among others. They also take the time out to put in a different set bridge from the 2824 so there's no phantom date setting, which some manufacturers are too lazy to do.
All great to know, thank you for sharing!
Lucas Ragusa the above comment is not accurate anymore as Tudor has started using Sellita SW200’s in their BB36’s. They no longer use KIF or Triovis
@@Pwng what year did they make that switch?
Lucas Ragusa started using Sellita’s in 2020 but I’ve heard they stopped using Triovis and KIF on their ETA’s a while before the switch too
@@Pwng well i guess all good things must come to an end...
Hard to imagine a better review of a watch. Great filming and handling, feels like I am holding the watch. Great review of my, possibly, next watch.
I have one on my wrist for 3.5 months ever since purchase and not noticing off ONE minute. Totally satisfied.
Nice, congrats.
I've owned my BB36 for the last 18 months - daily wear it and simply love this piece. Funny you mentioned in this video you were considering this and the OP36. I'm actually looking at adding an OP36 (blue) or OP34 (white) to contrast the black BB36.
did you go for it in the end? Which do you prefer?
Same. I have the BB36 blue dial, love it, and just added an OP36 in the silver Explorer dial. My other watches are so lonely.
I like the crown sticking out a bit. It looks more vintagy
I have the bb36 and love it. Well made, accurate and looks good. IMO expanding to 20 mm for lug width would make the bezel smaller in appearance.
Thanks for watching Barry. Good point there on the lug/bezel ratio. Thanks for sharing.
Cracking review, I have two longines and an Omega. Just sold my hydroconquest to buy this. Cannot believe how much better quality this feels than my HQ. head and shoulders above. And I loved my HQ. Omg what a bracelet on this though. Different world
I haven't seen a HQ in person yet but it looks like a pretty nice watch in its own right. Enjoy the BB Laurence.
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This is one Tudor where the buyer doesn’t purchase wishing they’d purchased a Rolex because it’s every bit as good.
Excellent review, I have the blue version and love it. If it's somewhere between a dress & tool watch, does that make it a drool watch?
Thanks for the review Guy...you've been killing it! Great job. This would be a great one watch collection
Thanks Chris. It could be a one watch collection, kind of like an Explorer, it's very versatile.
I commented before that I was underwhelmed when I tried this on but I'm still banging my head as to whether I'm buying this. Are there any owners to comment?
Echo the hour/minute markers are too large. They seem to be pulled right off of the 41mm.
No AR coating is disappointing.
ETA vs in-house is fine I suppose too, but you get a Tudor in-house with more complications and larger dial (which always costs more) for $1000 more. Albeit this is my preference.
Would you miss this over a Falcon S2 or a Smith's Everest?
Excellent review, may I ask what did you end up buying? BB36 or the Rolex OP 36? The Tudor will be a present for my 50th birthday in two years.
For such milestones OP 36 ofcourse
BTW, not sure if this is a coincidence but there is a member on Watchuseek whose username matches your channel's name, who asked questions to the forum about ETA movements and what grade they are. If that was you, you should have given some credit to your fellow watch community for helping. Going to assume it was you - in any case, you brushed off ETA movements in this video but it took some convincing in the forum for you to see ETA top grade is an incredible movement.
Really enjoyed the video, One question 2 years later on, Did you purchase this watch in the end?
Great review. How would you compare the quality of the finish compared to the Explorer that you owned? Is it basically Rolex quality case and bracelet with Tudor design and ETA movement? Or am I giving it too much credit?
Good question. It's hard to give a 100% honest evaluation since I owned the Explorer for many months and wore it a lot in the time and had this watch for a week, but I'll try. I would say the quality of both the polishing and brushed finish on the Rolex is perhaps slightly better, but it's not a mile ahead. They're close. Of course Rolex uses more expensive materials like gold on the markers and hands, but I doubt that's really a factor for most people. I think it's close enough to the same quality that we would be splitting hairs in favor of the Rolex. Obviously the Rolex 3132 inhouse movement is much more sophisticated, but the main differences are mostly stylistic in nature.
Maybe too small on 7.25” wrist? Was thinking of this as a test of whether I could tolerate the 36mm Explorer.
Beautiful watch. Perfect size (6.5" wrist here).
I don't have a problem with an ETA movement, but there is no "top- grade", regulate-able, 2824. They should have used the 2892 instead. That's the top grade movement you're thinking of. Everything else the exact same, it would be worth $3000.00 with that movement. I (personal opinion) wouldn't pay more than $2000 with the 2824 in this particular watch. Would love to see a white dial variant, like the rolex OP 36mm in white (for comparison).
Maybe next next year (2020).
Glad you got to review it and get your thoughts before your next purchase. I bought that one and a BB because I adore the snowflake hands (in part because it's a unique feature of the brand). I think in-house movements are nice but I think there's a bit of marketing hype around them.
Thanks for watching buddy. I like the watch a lot, especially since it's a pretty great value compared to the other things I'm looking at. My decision isn't any easier.
It is an old video but I stumbled on it researching the black bay 36. Very nice quality video and very nice review. It was realy helpfull. When I saw it next to the submariner I was wondering if the two dials and the crystals have the same diameter... it sure seemed that they did... Did you by any chance mesure it? Thank you!
I've owned this watch for the better part of 6 months. Honestly, my biggest disappointment is with its accuracy. I wouldn't trust the readings on any time grapher too much. My BB36 on my time grapher reads -1s/day, but in real life it's more like +6s/day. None of the different resting positions (dial up, crown up, or crown down) help slows the movement either.
I was in a similar position as you. I was deciding between this watch, the blue dial 3-6-9 OP 116000, and the 114270. After buy this watch new, I really didn't connect with it. Mainly do to its accuracy and that nasty crown tube.
I ended buying a used 114270 that runs about +2s/day. It's more comfortable to wear (the crown doesn't stick into my wrist, and it's a bit lighter). Also, I like the overall aesthetics more. IMO, BB36 looks more sporty while the 36mm OP looks more dressy. However, the 36mm Explorer has a nice balance between the two. Sure the BB36 has a better clasp and better lume, but it just lack the same charm as the Explorer.
If I had waited another month, and found out about the BB58, I most certainly would bought that instead of the BB36. However, now I'm happy with my Explorer, so I'm not sure if I really need or want a Tudor in my collection.
Sorry to hear you didn't connect with the Tudor, but that happens. I had the same experience with the 39mm Rolex Explorer. I still think the Explorer design is one of the best, but something about the size and scale of the watch didn't work for me I guess, I never really was totally happy with it. I probably should have gotten a 36mm Explorer like yourself.
Really great review, thanks. It is my watch to keep. I tried a 114270 and never bonded with it. The hands for me is one of the best parts of the watch. The oversized crown and extended tube add character and some heft to it also. I got mine on the aged leather but enjoy the NATO that came with it. The NATO adds a different visual to the watch. It has a different case than an older explorer. It is bolder and to me looks more prominent on the wrist. This watch never did have to grow in me, it was an instant bond. I think you liked it, but sounded like you have a few lingering doubts. I think of the watch as more of an explorer style than a dive style. I'm glad you got a chance to try it out and hope you decide on it. It was a 2hr drive for me to see it in person. Looked at it walked out then right back in and got it. Haven't regretted it yet. A watch you might also consider is the IWC 36mm Pilot. Best review I have seen on this watch yet. Keep up the reviews. Thanks
Thanks for watching Charlie. You're right I have some doubts. I like the watch, don't get me wrong, but I think part of me feels like I'd wish I had gotten something else. The big draw for this watch for me is the price. Yeah it looks great, it's great quality, and there are only a few small things that I could complain about - but it's quite a good value I think. That said I think I like the OP36 better. I'll need to do a lot of thinking before I make a decision.
I also like the op36. Just seem to like Tudor brand a little more. With that I have also gotten a very nice Tudor 90800 (Jumbo).
It’s a Chronometer Grade ETA, or at least mine is. Came with a COSC certificate and a serial number for the movement. To everyone complaining about the non in-house movement, bear in mind many in house movements are not COSC certified. Mine is still within COSC parameters after three years.
this is why i prefer tudor more than rolex or omega... more elegant and more beautiful than explorer. thank you again for this great video. cheers. :)
I might have an opportunity to borrow a Tudor BB Diver in the not too distant future. Hopefully that comes through, I'd love to see more of their watches.
look forward to it sir. thank you very much.
This Tudor just feels a bit cheap. It was a very boring watch on the wrist and I was able to buy it way below retail price new which I still declined. I was interested in it at first but after wearing it I was very disappointed. You'd better get your hands on a GS or if you have a bit more cash to spare, the Rolex Explorer 36mm with whatever movement. Don't get me wrong, I like Tudor, and especially the Black Bay 58, but this watch just feels like no man's land. It's not a luxury watch and for the steep price you don't get much value. I'd rather buy for the same money a Longines with some interesting complications. I am not to keen on Omega either although I like the Speedmaster Tokyo, but saying you like it more than Rolex tells me you have never had either of those brands on your wrists. Even the Oyster Perpetual 36mm grape feels like 3 levels above this (that watch is actually pretty cool if you have a small wrist).
Hi what do you think of the new version black bay 36 with a 70 hour power reserve much better with the jubilee bracelet?
I've been thinking og buying bb36, but then I came across Monta Noble. I liked everything about it. The dial is much more interesting, the finishing is good and overall I thought that it's a better deal. Received my blue Noble several days ago and I have 0 regrets that I've got them. I can recommend Monta over this BB. At least considering them as well
Great review! Thanks for pointing out the 19mm lug width-I agree that’s quite a mistake and a deal breaker for many, myself included. Now I can finally get this watch out of my head!
20mm would be better I think. Thanks for watching.
Really informative video, thanku. Definitely a future purchase, such a classy and underated piece. I have a 1969 Tudor and it's still working perfectly, so buying a modern day Tudor is a soon to be must for me. Thanks again.
Great comments about the lug width. I hadn't noticed that spec before and it does make a big difference!
Yeah I think so too.
Very nice watch and excellent review! The watch looks great! The ETA movement in that watch is a great movement and it’s nice to see a watch of an appropriate size and not some gargantuan dinner plate watch that looks disproportionate on anyone’s wrist. 36mm to 41 mm are great watch sizes.
Thanks for watching E Larson. I agree, that size range is my sweet spot as well.
What an excellent, considered, balanced and articulate review. I really enjoyed watching it. Great work Sir. I have just subscribed.
Thanks for watching Andy, and for the subscription.
They should have made a 38 or 39mm. My dilemma is that 36 is too small for my taste and definitively does not satisfy me (my wrist is same size as yours) and 41 i am afraid is gonna be too big lol
Now the new models are out with the 39 but I don’t really like the dials in terms of colours, they are not proper black or proper blue, does it make sense?
Best review of this watch ever...I saw and put this one on the wrist a few weeks ago, it seems like the Tudor's take on the Explorer, but it definitely has it's own style and is a beautiful piece. After looking at it more I couldn't shake the feeling that it has something off...but I just cannot put my hands around it, either the strange oversized hands or the lug size, which I didn't knew at the time it was 19 mm...
Anyway, it's a good quality beautiful watch, but when it comes to the dial, I still think the explorer one's dial is absolutely perfect and any modification to it would make I worse, but I could modify some things about the Tudor.
Thanks oly. I'm with you I think the Explorer dial is one of the best designs for a simple 3 hand time only watch ever. I wish I had a 36mm Explorer to compare this watch to that would have been cool.
the 1016 36mm Explorer is perfect. The current Explorer is vulgar
That would of been awesome.
I have 6 inch wrist. What do you think about black bay 32 mm? Is it very small for my wrist? Because i cant find a tudor shop in my place to try it on my wrist
My BB36 has run bang on 0/day for the last 7 days. On its worst day it will gain a second. Tudor knows how to regulate a watch. I tend to "reward" my accurate watches with lots of wrist time and this on gets the most. Just as accurate as my BBB/B which is also exceptional. Thanks for the review! 36mm for the win.
Do they feel happier when they’re rewarded?
So JustBlueFish, did you end up purchasing this watch? I'm going back and forth between this Tudor and an Omega 57 Railmaster.
Great video however I can’t help thinking that with the round markers the watch looks like a Dive Watch that has had the bezel removed or has fallen off. Just doesn’t look right.
Now that's a nice watch. I am more into divers. However, I will get this when I next get a dress watch. Thanks for upload.
Thanks for the great video. Agree: The square in the hour hand is a wee bit big IMHO. But a 20mm lug width would look weird on a 36mm case. It’s crazy how it doesn’t look crazy small compared to the sub.
Graham Lawton the sub has the same sized dial, 36mm only the case is supersized.
I don't think a 20mm Lug would look strange on a 36mm watch. Unless I'm mistaken all the 36mm watches in the Rolex line (OP36, DJ36, etc) have 20mm lug widths.
Anyone know what size of screwdriver I need to use on a Tudor Black Bay 36 bracelet screws? Do I really need to remove the bracelet from the watch before I heat up to soften the loctite? Is it best to use a hollow ground screwdriver head? Many thanks in advance
Saw exactly same watch today but with silver dial. Silver dial looks slightly better imho
Thanks for the review .
Tudor does a lot of enhancements to improve the movement.
It’s a great overall watch.
Thanks for watching. What sort of enhancements does Tudor do to the base movement?
JustBlueFish Watch Reviews , shock resistance , COSC grade accuracy, hairspring upgrade, modified balance , regulator AND ETC. it’s not a eta 2824 thrown into the watch and shipped out.
Nice, thanks for the info. All I know for sure is this one seemed to run pretty good.
JustBlueFish Watch Reviews cool enjoy it.
I have read about the enhancement from comments multiple times. But there is no official statement or article about it from Tudor, not even from their website. Anyway mine keeps excellent time.
I have nothing against a well regulated ETA 2824, but a glossy black dial + absence of AR coating : not good. Will look cheap under bad lightning, exact same reason why I sold my Explorer 214270. Also agree that 19 mm lug width is neither here nor there
Yeah a glossy dial and no AR coating makes for a lot of glare and reflection. I think a matte dial or AR would have been a good design choice.
The AR coating scratch very easily, and within years it will lost its transparency. The nature sapphire glass will last forever.
Hi Guy. Great review. I've had this watch for 11 months and I'm quite happy with its versatility and performance. I completely agree with your observations about the lug width. I have a seven inch wrist and I sometimes feel that I should have purchased the BB41-- a 20mm bracelet would have been better; however, i think the watch retains an appropriate degree of presence on the wrist thanks, in large part, to the high contrast dial. T-shaped endlinks like those on the Rolex 214270 would also have amplified the masculinity of the BB36. As it is now, my wife is wearing it on a nearly daily basis since my recent purchase of a Tudor North Flag which is, irrefutably, made for a man.
Thanks for checking out the review Neil. I think different endlinks and/or a 20mm lug width would have really done this watch a lot of good. I like that it's more conservative in size, and couldn't see myself going for the 41mm version, but at the same time this one feels a bit too small.
Bob Roberts. WTF?
I think it’s a gorgeous watch, and the snowflake hands are lovely; however, at this price point, AR coating should be an included feature. It’s an attractive price, but for these same features, you could pick up a few Stowa watches!
Thanks for watching.
I chose this over Nomos...fit and look on the wrist is more important to me than In-house, resale or brand!
Thanks for watching.
It looked so elegant on your wrist. Perfect size for you, in my humble opinion
Thanks for watching ami.
No worries mate. I should be the one thanking you, as you did all the hard work to make the video which I could sit back and enjoy. I did visit the tudor boutique for this black bay 36. But my wrist is smaller than women and I ended up liking black bay 32. The sales representative was a gentlewoman and she told that 32 is definately for women. So, I took it oof my wrist. lol. Finally I have spent my money on cartier tank small
My Tudor store also carries Cartier and was looking at the Tank. I'd like to get the Medium with quartz movement one day. I that is an awesome watch.
I also think medium (which they label as large) would be so gentlemanly classic like Tom Ford on your wrist. I asked couple of women couple of times if the small one looks feminine on my wrist. Thanks God, they replied no
I have a 7.5 inch wrist and 34mm is my preferred size, 36mm is as big as I’ll go. I don’t think anyone really has to worry about this looking too small. We’ve been brainwashed by the 90s to think that watches have to be huge when 34-36 were the norm for decades, unless it was a diver.
Smaller flush crown, brushed finish, 38mm size (20mm lugs), quick adjust clasp. Without changing the price or anything else. And this would be a worldbeater.
I would imagine the adjustable clasp would increase the price a little, which might be worth it, but the other design elements probably should have been done from the beginning. Maybe not 38mm, I could go either way on that one, I like it at 36 fine.
Thanks for the review!! This is on my short list, too. I’m not sure if the 36 would be just a little too small for me, so I may look at the 41. I’m kind of with you on the snowflake hands. I think they will grow on me over time, at least they’re unique. I don’t have a problem with it having an ETA movement, at least it will be affordable to maintain. I also like that it has an Explorer 1 look, without the Explorer 1 price.
The 36 does wear fairly small, go check them both out at a store, and see what you think. The 41 might be perfect for you.
LS98 I have the 41 and it’s perfect on my 7,5 in wrist.
Thanks, maitrehg . That’s my wrist size, too. It looks like I need to check out the 41.
I absolutely LOVE the size!!
But I think I would opt for a Rolex explorer 36
If the Exp 36 was still in production I would have to seriously consider it, but I don't really like buying pre-owned/vintage. I've run into more than my fair share of problems buying all sorts of things used. Far too often people are just trying to get rid of a problem they don't want to pay to have solved themselves, and I hate inheriting other peoples problems.
@@JustBlueFish .
You make a great point and l considered it too. However l went for the Explorer1. The Tudor just looks and feels second best. The raised glass protects the polished ring so no scratches. You can pick up a 2005 explorer from a dealer easily for the same price which will of been serviced by them and guaranteed for 2/3 years. Plus it's a better and safer investment if that's your thing.
I think I'd go for a top of the range patek
Currently proud owner of the Black Bay 41
Does the 41 have a 20 mm bracelet?
Yes this watch looks superior when it is on your wrist.
Final price New 10/28/19 $3159.00 in Roanoke Virginia
i can't find the group horology 101 on facebook. is the group over or name changed?
The Tudor feels and looks bigger and more masculine than a 36mm Rolex Explorer 1, even thou it has a 20mm lug width. A great little watch.
I've actually never gotten my hands on a 36mm Explorer. My local shops never have one in the pre-owned case. I'd like to check one out in person one of these days though.
Thorough & spot on review. My thoughts would be to consider to try on the new Tudor 58 if the style is of interest and overlapping the sub for you plus the new 39mm OPs (rather than smaller stable mates) and see if these connect. Just a thought
The Tudor 58 looks cool, but I don't think I need another expensive diver in my collection.
AL McL I am happy to see smaller watches if I could dish out the cash I would buy one of these in a heartbeat
I can’t see past the fake rivets, otherwise I may have bought a 58 instead of a 36.
Nice review. I'm all for ETA movement, very cost effective for service. I'm disappointed with no anti-reflective on the crystal. 19mm for the bracelet width, is kind of a pain in the ass, but i was thinking of buying it with the bracelet and trying to work a deal for the leather strap, you are then covered for an option.
You like the same watches that I do. We have great taste. Right now, I think the Speedmaster Pro is my next watch (Sapphire sandwich on leather strap). I also like the Tudor Black Bay 36.
I have a Speedy video coming up in a couple days. Stay tuned.
I have a Sub too.
Nice, that's my favorite watch I've ever owned. It's hard to convince myself to wear anything else.
Same here. It's my favorite watch. I prefer it over watches that are much more expensive. I have the no date version.
If i hadn't have bought explorer 36mm, i would buy this.
Of the 2 options the Exp36 is probably the better bet.
Would love this with the thin in-house movement from the BB 58
Is the BB58 movement small enough to fit in a 36mm case I wonder?
We'll have to wait and see :)
I’m considering this, a 36.5 seamaster and a rolex oyster at the moment. I have a speedmaster currently and want to add to it with a smaller 36mm watch . Tough choice!
I’d put up with the 19mm lug width but I’d really like a bit of AR coating on the crystal please Tudor.
Love this watch, and agree that the bracelet should be a 20mm. Pretty close to perfect!
the clasp is not hinged but fixed by 4 ceramic, spring loaded ball bearings
Glad I ran across your RUclips channel. Great info and very well presented. I am now a subscriber. Thank you.
Thanks Jeff!
I don't think that you understand people that are unhappy with generic movement instead of inhouse. In certain price point buyers want to know that work put in creating that watch is reflected in price, if you just regulate an ETA/put a Tudor logo on the rotor it's not enough for the price. I know that the movement is just one part of the watch but compare it to Nomos, inhouse, affordable and still great design.
Nomos is a bit of a rare bird, great quality and value at this tier.
Yes, but you also can get an Omega with an inhouse (even co-axial) in Tudors price range... I mean if you dig the design it's all that really maters.
To be fair, Nomos' movements are based on the Peseux 7001 - except for their new in-house automatic.
You're not necessarily wrong, I just think you're missing the point slightly.
What you and most people completely forget is the fact that ETA makes incredibly solid and reliable movements. The ETA 2824-2 and 2892-2 in their top/chronometer grade will easily be as accurate as anything Rolex produces if regulated properly. They're insanely durable and reliable as well as easily serviced.
There is a reason why basically the entire watch industry stopped making in house movements and went to ETA, they were simply better and more reliable. People have forgotten about that. Are they the best and most exclusive movement in the world? No they're not, I agree with you. But they're fucking great movements :)
Side note, Omegas in house calibers aren't really in house, they're an Omega design manufactured by ETA exclusively for Omega.
they have done a lot more than just stick a tudor logo on it
If Tudor made a 38mm case.........
38mm with 20mm lugs would be pretty nice.
Bb 58
Vegan Dinner I went with the Tudor style, because it’s the only Tudor watch offering a 38 case. And I must say, I love this watch. Sure - it’s more dressy. But 38 mm is my sweet spot. Have also tried the BB 36 and ..well, It’s only 2 mm but it’s looking way smaller. Will get a used BB in two years or so for 1,5 k - that’s a good compromise
That would be a must buy
I think most folks regret buying a Tudor... in the sense that they really want a Rolex and they compromised on what they bought when they should have just saved longer. The only watch Tudor makes that interest me as unique is the Pelagos (ceramic bezel, titanium, amazing bracelet).
I could see that being the case. In a way I would feel like I'd be buying the Tudor because I kinda like it and it's much more affordable then my prefered Rolex.
Would you say Tudor is the best value luxury brand? Time to set some grail goals, Rolex is out of the question, but Tudor is priced close to what I'd be willing to pay without selling my kidneys :)
Tudor or Omega would be competing, maybe Grand Seiko as well.
@@JustBlueFish I've been a fan of Omega designs since I was a kid and saw Brosnan's Bond movies. I thought Omega is priced closer to Rolex than Tudor though? Need to look it up.
A Seamaster is much more affordable than a Rolex Submariner, but a bit above the Tudor.
@@JustBlueFish hmm, you're right, I had a look around, seems omega and Tudor are pretty close to each other price wise, at least for models I'm interested in. Time to start saving pennies)
Can’t decide between this bb36 or a sinn 556i on the bracelet.
I had to make the same decision, so I bought both!
Awesome video! I am considering this or the Tudor Black Bay 58. 39mm divers are hard to come by.
Keep them coming!
Two great choices, good luck!
Exact same dilemma for me
I bought a Certina DS action 38mm, if you are looking for a small diver, it’s well worth a look. I’ve been so pleased with mine, super accurate, super comfortable, 80 hour power reserve. As long as your not a watch tart and can live with an eta movement and aluminium bezel, this is loads of watch fir the money.
I've tried on both this and the OP 36. The OP 36 wears significantly larger--a bit too big for me, in fact. But the lines of the OP case are so beautiful! I do like the idea of having a good, robust ETA that any good watchmaker could service. It's a tough choice! Both watches are absolutely brilliant.
what is op36?
@@farhatbdhj rolex oyster perpetual
I have this in blue, great watch love the hands 🙌. Makes it a different wear to other watches. 🇬🇧
Great watch! Looks great fits my taste right now. However the new black dial oyster perpetual in 36 will look just as good in 20+ years. I’ve liked the similar style Seikos since 1994 when I was gifted this obsession at 15 lol
Something about the OP36 dial that is appealing is that it's at least a little more unique then this dial. In my collection, having a Submariner already, it might be overkill to have 2 watches with almost the same dials.
JustBlueFish Watch Reviews the sunburst dial of the OP is really appealing, I find sunburst dials hypnotising.. lost looking at the dial and not even noticing the time pass.. January 2019 is when I turn 40 the OP will be watch to mark this occasion, even if I have to wait a little longer to get the money together
Good review. I have been looking at this one as well. There is another video out there where the owner gave the shiny bezel a brushed finish and it really changes the look of the watch. They should have made it that way to begin with.
Thanks for watching Jeff. I brushed bezel might be cool, I'll have to find that video and see it.
I love the price, just within the limits of what I would term as attainable but without the guilt. I don't mind the ETA movement. In fact I prefer a more affordable movement like an NH35 or alike, as long as the timekeeping is not affected. My ultimate watch is excellent craftsmanship, but with the heart of a workhorse, that will run forever and if it did need servicing, you can go to your nearest, favorite watchmaker to be affordably serviced.
Sizewise, I prefer it to be around 40mm.
They do have the 41mm version now, so perhaps that's something to look into.
Carlo Dimacali then get urself a Rolex sub ceramic bezel..that is what u are looking for..I like mine.
Ian Francis Ledesma unfortunately, a Submariner is out of my means. Just too expensive for me.
Amen to that. Finally someone who is intelligent enough to realise that "in-house" does not mean "more quality". Of course when one pays $3000 for a fucking watch, one expects to get a proper built piece with a more original and better movement. Unfortunately that is not the case with this Tudor. It is sad that a $3000 watch has an ETA 2824 inside but at the same time it is a fucking tank of a movement who will not certainly let you down. I know because I have a Certina DS Action Diver which has the same movement - but it will only cost you around $800... go figure...
Thanks for watching.
I did some research on the 2824 that tudor uses. It's Top grad from eta and they also do some mods to it and prob regulated it to 5 positions. There are $8K + IWC watches that use ETA movements.
This top grade ETA movement is very accurate. It is more accurate than some in house movements so could be viewed as preferable. It works particularly well for this watch as the 2824 is quite a thin movement whereas the Tudor in house movement is absolutely not a thin movement. The original black bay was a chunky watch (I bought when first released) and believe the in house variant is a little thicker now as a result of accommodating the movement. As I have had several years of just being 1 second out per day I don’t see the benefit in an in house movement. Rolex themselves have only just managed to match that ETA performance in my experience. This is more accurate than my SubC and GMT2. My new Datejust which has the latest gen of Rolex movement is perfect - I mean have had for 10 days and does not seem to have lost or gained a single second which is unheard of.
All in all the use of ETA gets some stick but Tudor have created a well built watch with nice finishing and an accurate movement. For a watch with such a low price could not ask for more really!
love the size of this watch. kudos to tudor!!!
Thanks for watching.
Another great review of an interesting watch. I have the same feeling about the snowflake hour hand (and seconds hand). Together with all the almost bulky-appearing markers, it's just too much for me going on, especially in the 36mm version.
Thanks Frank. You make a good point. We have a bit of a maxi style dail which doesn't help the hands not feel crowded does it?
I am all in for Tudors. I have the bb in house movement with black bazel, i have the bronze and now i want to purchase the gmt. One downside could be the fact it's bulky a little bit. But not that much. If you have a rather bigger wrist, the black bays looks perfect.
I might be getting my hands on a BB Diver in the not to distant future to do a review on. Hopefully that comes through, I'm looking forward to that, although it's the older ETA model, which is some ways I think I might prefer to the newest version. We shall see.
JustBlueFish Watch Reviews no doubt that the ETA is as impressive as the in-house.See, I live in Moscow, there we have Rolex dealer but we don't have Tudor dealers in Russia, so i haven't seen an eta bb in person. It is a bit thinner they say, so in that term should be better.
Anyway cool review, beautiful watch and I really like the details you get into in your reviews. Keep up the good work!
I have seen a couple of issues with the movement of the gmt from various forums. In regards to date wheel. I recently purchased 36, loved it. Wears better than my PO 8500. 7" wrist.
Before I knew any better about watches, I never thought there would be a maintenance fee you have to spend in every five years. Watches are similar to cars. One has to be able to purchase it, and one has to be able to maintain it as well. You cannot bring Patel and those high-end watches to a random shop and fix it. Otherwise, the official customer service centers will never accept and perform services on those watches. After knowing this, I am not too picky with the movements anymore. IWC charges 750$ish for their valju chronograph, I cannot imagine how much luxury watch brands charge for their in-house movements.
The price is a disgrace. I just yank the crown off my watch with pliers and give the insides a liberal squirt of WD 40 and then put the crown back on with super glue. After that it requires no further maintenance and it is perfectly correct twice a day.
Thanks for watching and for the comments shnam13.
this would be a great affordable one watch except for absence of a date complication. personal preference I guess
Such a bummer that it doesn’t have AR coating. Is that something you can do aftermarket at a watchmaker ?
You could have the crystal changed to one with AR.
JustBlueFish Watch Reviews thank you for your response ! I’m currently looking for a versatile everyday watch for my 18 birthday, that should last a very long time , and am considering the Tudor bb 36 . Originally I considered the speedmaster reduced too, but dismissed the thought , due to its high servicing costs. Are there any other watches you could recommend (up to about 2000€) ?
Nice video! Would you envisage this to be a future collectible watch? More or less than Black Bay with rotating bezel? Thank you so much
I don’t think either will be particularly collectible in the near term. They’re fairly common and lots have been made. I imagine there would always be an interest and demand for them, but I wouldn’t see them going up in value like a collectible typically would. 20 years after production stops, there’s no telling.
I really like this with the 36mm size, and classic understated look. The crown does stick out too far though. Very good piece though.
I thought the crown stuck out too far too before I hand the watch in my hands. In person, it's really not a lot in my opinion. Sure it could be flush to the case like any Rolex Oyster watch and that would be fine, but the way it is isn't really a problem.
JustBlueFish Watch Reviews I guess it's part of its own unique identity.
Did you end up getting it?
I like the dial except for how it appears that the Tudor logo and Geneve script looks to be “shoved” down too close to the hands assembly by the oversized 12th hour triangle.
Thanks for watching buddy. I appreciate it.
36mm or 41mm? what do u guys prefer?
36 for me.
Ha!!! The Sub and Explorer had a baby! lmao. Very true though, makes sense. Will be picking this up eventually but gotta get the 16570 polar within the next few months first. thanks for the vid!
Thanks for watching.
Hi Guy, would you do a comparison between the black bay 36, explorer 1 and sub nd?
Would I? Of course. Could I? Probably not, I don’t know where I’d find all 3 watches to do the video.
Between the tudor bb and explorer 1 which will you go for?
Well I had the Explorer 1 39mm version a while back and I ended up selling it, it didn't work for me. I wouldn't buy a 36mm Explorer because I don't like buying older used/vintage watches. If they still made the Exp in 36mm and I could get it new, I'd go for that over the Tudor BB.
Great review. I agree with all of your points :)
After having mainly collected vintage watches im firmly in the camp of mid century sizes.
The arbitrary notion that a a bigger watch makes it more masculine is nothing but a fad. One that is slowly starting to reverse.
Well said
Great review champ ! Well done.
Thanks B Moz.
Is there a serial number on the watch ?
I see no big deal in a in-house movement when the caseback is solid.
I think most people would assume an implied level of higher quality with an inhouse movement, though I don't know if that would be entirely true or not, but that is the perception.
Great review as always. I have the 41 and I like it a lot. Never under 40 mm for me.
That's fair, I don't know if I could go 41mm for myself, but at least they have options for all of us.
Very nice piece. I agree, the hour hand is too much for this watch though, just my opinion. I like snowflake hands but not on this watch. Other than that very nice.
Yeah I really think this watch needs a different handset.
JustBlueFish Watch Reviews absolutely. Something simple like a 7923 Tudor Sub.