I have a planet ocean, dj36, op36 (2), and this.....this by far is my fav and the only watch I get compliments on. I LOVE this thing and if I had to own one, this would be it. Perfect size and everything is promotional.
Yeah, I'm in 6" wrist club as well 😅 It's a bit more challenging for us to pick up a watch :D I've got my Monta Noble a few days ago and luckily it sits good on my small wrist :D
This really helped so thank you! I have a 6" wrist as well and I think I'd be leaning towards the smaller Black Bay 32. Seems like it'd be a lot smaller but I expect it to wear nicely with the big hands.
The Tudor black bay 36 is a fascinating watch. I used to not enjoy it because the case makes it look like a dress watch yet the dial is clearly a divers one. Yet the more I watched it the more I realise I was judging it basing my assumption on what other brands say a dress watch or a diver is. The black bay is quite a gorgeous watch that follows its own design philosophy.
Finally, someone talks about the issue with the link that connects to the clasp! All Black Bays have this issue with that link. Great quality bracelet, but it would sit better on the wrist if that link articulated. Great video! Does anyone know the exact width of the center link???
Your photography in close up is beautiful. I have a bigger wrist than you but I still prefer 36mm in size because it's less intrusive on my wrist. That makes it a real tool watch. I've got the blue dial 36mm. I sleep, work, run and shower with it, it's a great utility watch.
Lovely review , great camera work and beautiful watch (biased as I have one!). And yes scratches are good IMO. Makes it yours, not a watch kept hidden away. Believe Tudor have also upped servicing to every 10 years now in line with Rolex. Which is great!
@@laurenceharrison661 now that the weather is cooler, I noticed my wrist is more of a 6.75-7! This should easily accommodate this piece. TBH, I've tried it on before and felt it wore fine, but the sales people talk me out of it. Thanks for your input.
Such an awesome watch. I’ve contemplated purchasing it many times but I could never really get over that protruding black tube that connects the crown to the case. The clasp also seems like something they should definitely correct. Excellent and thorough review.
I can't believe how pristine your BB36 is - I've had mine for under 3 years now and it's banged up and even has a crystal ding from door knobs, car doors, guitars etc. lol. I love the stories and patina I've accumulated so I'll probably never get it polished. Great work on the video - here's to many more years of the BB36!
yeah, my wrists are small too and I always focus on this issue. It's bugging me a lot! I think I need to change my thinking though (I won't be able to change the way the bracelet is designed) as it is taking away from my enjoyment of this wonderful watch. I'll just have to love it for what it is and the way it is 💁🏻
I really enjoyed the photography and music at the start of the video. It was like the start of a love story film with the 36mm as the star! It's a great watch. I bought mine about a year ago and its fast become my "Off work" watch. I catch myself looking at the dial to admire it as much as to tell the time.
May I ask - regarding the clasp overhang on a 6inch wrist, how long would the clasp be? (The length of it under your wrist including the links that remain straight?) thanks for the review!
My AD called me today and I could pick up my BB36 blue. Love it! That blue dial is so gorgeous. But Jesus…its hard to get one… I waited 8 months …crazy watch world. Rolex is pushing Tudor watches in the wrong direction 🙈
😲 I didn't know that there's a waiting list for this now. I got mine by just walking into a Tudor AD a couple of years back. It really sucks if Tudor were to become another unobtainable brand like Rolex.
Great review. I'm just one step away from buying this watch. I'd like to know if the clasp problem made it a bit uncomfortable to wear. I have 5.75 inch wrist, and I am afraid if the clasp problem would make the bracelet uncomfortable on my wrist.
Thanks for making this video, it was extremely helpful as I’m thinking of getting a BB36. As for the clasp, I have 6.5 inch wrists, do you think it’ll wear ok?
@@GFWatch I just wanted to let you know I finally got one! I see what you mean by the clasp and bracelet end links not fitting the greatest. I’m happy to report though that after playing around with the number of links and micro adjustments, I was able to get it to fit how I like it! Thank you for helping me decide if it would be a good fit ! Looking forward to seeing other watches you collect
Just subscribe finally a youtuber with a 6 inch wrist i really like this watch but it seems that i should get the leather strap after all for my 15.2 cm wrist if I'm gonna go for this one. Awesome videos by the way you're really helping me decide with the proportions and things that usually even trying the watch in person I can't figure out cause I'm blinded by their good looks forgetting to check if the watch really suits a small wrist like mine hehe
I'm contemplating buying this watch, and I have the same wrist size as yours (5.9 inch). I really want to wear it with a bracelet since it would be my first, but I'm very finicky about the fit. Do your watch slide up and down or side way due to the clasp? That's something I wouldn't be able to get by long term. Thanks for the video
Really appreciate your review on the clasp. My wrist is just under 6". The size of the case 36mm is perfect but will the long clasp make it look out place?
What is the circumference of your wrists? I'm trying to decide between a 36mm BB or an OP 39. I have 6.5 inch wrists and I can't try on the OP because they don't have any in stock.My name is on the waiting list though.
I bought my BB36 in February, and it was running at -13s / day, I took it to the official dealer and now it runs -5 / + 5, unfortunately I got a bad scratch on the bezel and I am not able to enjoy it due to this damage. I wear it every day, I don't know how you get it so new after 2 years
I really liked to try the BB58 but so far I haven't got the chance to see one in real life. So far all the ADs that I went to are perpetually out of stock. Maybe they don't think of me as a worthy customer 😅
Anyone know what size of screwdriver I need to use on a Tudor Black Bay 36 bracelet screws? Do I really need to remove the bracelet from the watch before I heat up to soften the loctite? Is it best to use a hollow ground screwdriver head? Many thanks in advance
If I'm not mistaken, a 0.8mm or 1mm flat screwdriver should fit. The thread locker (loctite) on the original bracelet can be removed with just some slight effort.
Really on the fence between this and the Grand Seiko sbgx061/261 as a daily wearer. Seeing that you have reviewed both, which would you choose? I’m a bit hesitant about the possible difference in the quality of the bracelet
That's a tough question. Both of these watches are great in their own ways. I don't think I can really choose one over another. It's really up to you 😊
@@ivankerr3570 i think it’s nicer. Better water resistance, better lume, better bracelet. Rolex has a far superior movement but the Tudor can be serviced anywhere. Snowflake hands are nicer than Mercedes hands. Explorer inspired by the mountains, BB36 inspired by the ocean. I’d love for a re release of a 36mm explorer with a modern bracelet and the modern lume on the 39mm explorer.
Great review! I have owned my bb36 for 3 years now and it’s an awesome watch. Mine however is not running as well as yours, I think around -15 to -20 seconds a day. I accidentally left my beats pro on top of the watch one night and it got magnetized. I demagnetized it but it’s still not running the same. I see that you placed your watch on some headphones for the thumbnail, be careful!
Amazing video man. Very useful. What's the length of the clasp. I have tiny wrist like you and I am afraid this could really bother me. Many thanks. Cheers.
I didn't measure the clasp. Length wise it may be slightly longer than the lug to lug distance of the watch case. It's the final link that makes it wear bigger.
I went through this with the bracelet. I have 6 inch wrists and the inflexible last link is super annoying. I eventually sold the watch. But, after going through oyster bracelet issues with 4 different Rolex models, I accept that nothing is perfect. I just re-purchased a bb36 and plan on wearing it on the bracelet.
I have the SBGX061 (predecessor to 261 that is exactly the same watch but Seiko branding still on the dial) and I think the BB36 and SBGX061/261 are both great. It's hard for me to choose between them.
Hey bro great video! I've been wanting this watch too but I also have 6" wrists so the long clasp issue kind of worries me as well. Do you know if the Black Bay 58 uses the same bracelet/clasp? Keep up the great work!
My wrist is 7.25 i like the 36mm just don't know how great it will look on my wrist with that said i don't like a big watch and i don't like the 41mm version it looks goofy.
@@GFWatch there is no tudor dealer where i live unfortunately, for me the spacing on the dial is off on the 41mm the watch should have been made at 38 or 39mm with a domed sapphire then its a perfect watch but we all know those don't exist.
Thanks to you sir I have purchased the blue dial and couldn't be happier with it. It is just perfect. Perfect look, perfect weight and it is the ideal every day watch. Thanks so much for the great review again.
This watch is really nice and it's even nicer in person. The new model is nice but this black version is a classic. It's fat from an entry level watch. £2670 isn't entry level, a Seiko Sxk is entry level
First! Edit: It's going to be journey but I'd rather save for OP39 as I feel that would be a very elegant, under the radar; more so than this Tudor 36. Love those snowflake hands but it looks too big and takes up most of space in 36, in 58 it is gorgeous!
Looks like a Black Bay with the bezel having fallen off. The crown sticking out looks as if it’s not screwed down properly. The clasp is terrible. Apart from these huge issues it’s not a bad watch. Lol. I laugh that people always say that the ETA movement is modified and regulated by Tudor but can easily be worked on by any watchmaker. Just a tad contradictory it’s either worked on which means not generic ETA parts that needs replaced at service or genuine Tudor parts that may be required . This means sending to a watchmaker with a Tudor parts account or a butcher who will just stick in any old ETA part.
I have a planet ocean, dj36, op36 (2), and this.....this by far is my fav and the only watch I get compliments on. I LOVE this thing and if I had to own one, this would be it. Perfect size and everything is promotional.
Finally someone with a 6inch wrist!
Thumbed up and subscribed.
Please more videos of other watches in future!!
Yeah, I'm in 6" wrist club as well 😅 It's a bit more challenging for us to pick up a watch :D I've got my Monta Noble a few days ago and luckily it sits good on my small wrist :D
Awww. Cute.
This really helped so thank you! I have a 6" wrist as well and I think I'd be leaning towards the smaller Black Bay 32. Seems like it'd be a lot smaller but I expect it to wear nicely with the big hands.
The Tudor black bay 36 is a fascinating watch. I used to not enjoy it because the case makes it look like a dress watch yet the dial is clearly a divers one. Yet the more I watched it the more I realise I was judging it basing my assumption on what other brands say a dress watch or a diver is. The black bay is quite a gorgeous watch that follows its own design philosophy.
Finally, someone talks about the issue with the link that connects to the clasp! All Black Bays have this issue with that link. Great quality bracelet, but it would sit better on the wrist if that link articulated. Great video! Does anyone know the exact width of the center link???
Just bought mine and i love it. I was thinking of buying either a Pelagos or BB 58 blue, but i came away with this! Its so simple, elegant and subtle.
Congrats. Wear it in good health
Your photography in close up is beautiful.
I have a bigger wrist than you but I still prefer 36mm in size because it's less intrusive on my wrist. That makes it a real tool watch.
I've got the blue dial 36mm. I sleep, work, run and shower with it, it's a great utility watch.
Lovely review , great camera work and beautiful watch (biased as I have one!). And yes scratches are good IMO. Makes it yours, not a watch kept hidden away. Believe Tudor have also upped servicing to every 10 years now in line with Rolex. Which is great!
Great choice for a smaller wrist. I'm 7.25-.5. If they ever make a 38mm, I'm in. The 41 version was just too large at 50mm lug to lug.
Mine is 7.25 and fits fine ( with micro adjusts to the max.lol)
@@laurenceharrison661 now that the weather is cooler, I noticed my wrist is more of a 6.75-7! This should easily accommodate this piece. TBH, I've tried it on before and felt it wore fine, but the sales people talk me out of it. Thanks for your input.
Grail watch all the way :) Thanks for breakdown the issue with the clasp ....
I just love it ! So pure and classy line , so versatile and affordable luxury timepiece
Such an awesome watch. I’ve contemplated purchasing it many times but I could never really get over that protruding black tube that connects the crown to the case. The clasp also seems like something they should definitely correct. Excellent and thorough review.
Great review. Love this watch with the silver dial. Can't get past a SW200-1 for a $3k watch. Same movement as my $375 Glycine Combat Sub 36mm.
Bargain of the century.. for Tudor !!
Thank you for a comprehensive and enjoyable review.
I can't believe how pristine your BB36 is - I've had mine for under 3 years now and it's banged up and even has a crystal ding from door knobs, car doors, guitars etc. lol. I love the stories and patina I've accumulated so I'll probably never get it polished.
Great work on the video - here's to many more years of the BB36!
You mean many more decades???? 😁
@@realblackbetty2204 I like the way you think ;)
Dale, are you saying that you've experienced patina on the BB36 already, just after 3 years?
@@jeffroutledge9153 oh yeah, plenty of dings and scratches. Worn everyday for about 3 years now :)
Good review. The thing about the clasp is a serious issue with smaller wrists
yeah, my wrists are small too and I always focus on this issue. It's bugging me a lot! I think I need to change my thinking though (I won't be able to change the way the bracelet is designed) as it is taking away from my enjoyment of this wonderful watch. I'll just have to love it for what it is and the way it is 💁🏻
I really enjoyed the photography and music at the start of the video.
It was like the start of a love story film with the 36mm as the star!
It's a great watch. I bought mine about a year ago and its fast become my "Off work" watch. I catch myself looking at the dial to admire it as much as to tell the time.
Glad you like the video. Thanks. The BB36 is indeed a very versatile watch.
It's a great watch!! Tbh I think you would have absolutely rocked the bb32 on your wrist
I think I can rock the BB32 given that I wear a Nomos Tangente 33mm 😊
May I ask - regarding the clasp overhang on a 6inch wrist, how long would the clasp be? (The length of it under your wrist including the links that remain straight?) thanks for the review!
I didn't really measure but I can say that it's slightly longer than the lug to lug distance of the watch case.
My AD called me today and I could pick up my BB36 blue. Love it! That blue dial is so gorgeous. But Jesus…its hard to get one… I waited 8 months …crazy watch world. Rolex is pushing Tudor watches in the wrong direction 🙈
😲 I didn't know that there's a waiting list for this now. I got mine by just walking into a Tudor AD a couple of years back. It really sucks if Tudor were to become another unobtainable brand like Rolex.
Beautiful review. Thank you
Great review. I'm just one step away from buying this watch. I'd like to know if the clasp problem made it a bit uncomfortable to wear. I have 5.75 inch wrist, and I am afraid if the clasp problem would make the bracelet uncomfortable on my wrist.
There's an overhang but i wouldn't say it's extremely uncomfortable on my 6 inch wrist.
@@GFWatch Do you feel like it sits awkwardly? I have a similar wrist size
@@TheRollingLaxx The watch case sits great on my wrist.
U need the 32.
@@WoodshavenPatriot Thanks for reply. I bought Rolex OP34 at the end haha. Perfect size for my wrist.
Thanks for making this video, it was extremely helpful as I’m thinking of getting a BB36. As for the clasp, I have 6.5 inch wrists, do you think it’ll wear ok?
Thanks. I think the clasp should wear okay on your wrist.
Thank you!!
@@GFWatch I just wanted to let you know I finally got one! I see what you mean by the clasp and bracelet end links not fitting the greatest. I’m happy to report though that after playing around with the number of links and micro adjustments, I was able to get it to fit how I like it! Thank you for helping me decide if it would be a good fit ! Looking forward to seeing other watches you collect
Congrats! Glad I helped. With a 6.5 inch wrist, it should fit perfectly.
Just subscribe finally a youtuber with a 6 inch wrist i really like this watch but it seems that i should get the leather strap after all for my 15.2 cm wrist if I'm gonna go for this one. Awesome videos by the way you're really helping me decide with the proportions and things that usually even trying the watch in person I can't figure out cause I'm blinded by their good looks forgetting to check if the watch really suits a small wrist like mine hehe
Very interesting breakdown of that clasp issue. Great review! Also love that you embrace the scratches, watches should be worn!
Well, zero beat error and +1s/d is not “very good”. I’d say it’s “superlative”, if you know what I mean ;-)
😄👍
I'm contemplating buying this watch, and I have the same wrist size as yours (5.9 inch). I really want to wear it with a bracelet since it would be my first, but I'm very finicky about the fit. Do your watch slide up and down or side way due to the clasp? That's something I wouldn't be able to get by long term.
Thanks for the video
Other than the long clasp, I manage to get a good fit on my wrist.
Really appreciate your review on the clasp. My wrist is just under 6". The size of the case 36mm is perfect but will the long clasp make it look out place?
I think it's still manageable
@@GFWatch Yes. I got the watch last week! It fits my wrist! Thanks again
Nice. Congrats 🎉
What is the circumference of your wrists? I'm trying to decide between a 36mm BB or an OP 39. I have 6.5 inch wrists and I can't try on the OP because they don't have any in stock.My name is on the waiting list though.
I have a 6 in wrist. BB36 would be a good size. As for OP, I have the 36mm. Due to the chunkier lugs on the OP, the 39mm feels bigger.
I bought my BB36 in February, and it was running at -13s / day, I took it to the official dealer and now it runs -5 / + 5, unfortunately I got a bad scratch on the bezel and I am not able to enjoy it due to this damage.
I wear it every day, I don't know how you get it so new after 2 years
I don't "baby" my watch but I try to care for it 😊. You can try to reduce the appearance of the scratch by using some Cape Cod.
Even with the bracelet issue, is it still comfortable?
Asking because I’m planning to buy this and we have the same wrist size
It's still good and comfy on the wrist despite the overlong clasp. The watch case is just perfect for our small wrist.
GF Watch thanks mate!
Your video and reply really helps to make my decision
same issue here...lol this is reassuring..lol
One day I'll own one BB36 great review 🤙🤙🤙
Great review!
Hey, I think we have the same wrist size. Have you tried wearing the Black Bay 58? Would love to hear your insights on it. Thanks!
I really liked to try the BB58 but so far I haven't got the chance to see one in real life. So far all the ADs that I went to are perpetually out of stock. Maybe they don't think of me as a worthy customer 😅
I agree that the clasp is too long but you also have a very slender wrist. That watch doesn't look it has been worn much. Nice video. Thumbs up!
Anyone know what size of screwdriver I need to use on a Tudor Black Bay 36 bracelet screws? Do I really need to remove the bracelet from the watch before I heat up to soften the loctite? Is it best to use a hollow ground screwdriver head? Many thanks in advance
If I'm not mistaken, a 0.8mm or 1mm flat screwdriver should fit. The thread locker (loctite) on the original bracelet can be removed with just some slight effort.
Really on the fence between this and the Grand Seiko sbgx061/261 as a daily wearer. Seeing that you have reviewed both, which would you choose? I’m a bit hesitant about the possible difference in the quality of the bracelet
That's a tough question. Both of these watches are great in their own ways. I don't think I can really choose one over another. It's really up to you 😊
@@GFWatch thanks mate! Suppose it’s time to visit some AD’s haha
This one is on par with Rolex explorer 1
Good choice
Emm. It’s not
@@ivankerr3570 I think Bryan is right
@@ivankerr3570 i think it’s nicer. Better water resistance, better lume, better bracelet. Rolex has a far superior movement but the Tudor can be serviced anywhere. Snowflake hands are nicer than Mercedes hands. Explorer inspired by the mountains, BB36 inspired by the ocean. I’d love for a re release of a 36mm explorer with a modern bracelet and the modern lume on the 39mm explorer.
@@michaelhamm4047 your wish came true...
@@apmcintyre it did!
Where did you buy it in Malaysia? Been looking for one but most shops only have the 41...
Tudor boutique. If it's not available in store, I believe you can get them to order for you by paying a certain amount of deposit.
the issues with the clasp was very interesting to learn. do you have a similar issue with your 36mm rolex op?
I don't see such issue on my OP36
Hey can you tell me please what's your wrist size?
Great review! I have owned my bb36 for 3 years now and it’s an awesome watch. Mine however is not running as well as yours, I think around -15 to -20 seconds a day. I accidentally left my beats pro on top of the watch one night and it got magnetized. I demagnetized it but it’s still not running the same. I see that you placed your watch on some headphones for the thumbnail, be careful!
It's not a headphone but rather a replacement foam pad for my headphones 😊
@@GFWatch just making sure 😆
You would have been better of with a Rolex OP 34mm due to your wrist size. Nice watch and vid.
Amazing video man. Very useful.
What's the length of the clasp. I have tiny wrist like you and I am afraid this could really bother me. Many thanks. Cheers.
I didn't measure the clasp. Length wise it may be slightly longer than the lug to lug distance of the watch case. It's the final link that makes it wear bigger.
I went through this with the bracelet. I have 6 inch wrists and the inflexible last link is super annoying. I eventually sold the watch. But, after going through oyster bracelet issues with 4 different Rolex models, I accept that nothing is perfect. I just re-purchased a bb36 and plan on wearing it on the bracelet.
@@JamesShander agree with you
@@JamesShander may I ask - what’s the Length of the clasp (the section underside your wrist that can’t be adjusted)
Good video! Wish you can make an SOTC of yours for mid 2020!!
Haha we'll see. My collection is a mess 😅
Hi, GF watch, what are your thoughts on Grand Seiko SBGX261 vs Tudor BB36 ?
I have the SBGX061 (predecessor to 261 that is exactly the same watch but Seiko branding still on the dial) and I think the BB36 and SBGX061/261 are both great. It's hard for me to choose between them.
@@GFWatch thanks for your reply!
Hey bro great video! I've been wanting this watch too but I also have 6" wrists so the long clasp issue kind of worries me as well. Do you know if the Black Bay 58 uses the same bracelet/clasp? Keep up the great work!
I never had the chance in handling a Black Bay 58, unfortunately.
@@GFWatch No worries. Thanks for the reply. 👍
Great review :)
7:50 a litle less what appearance?
"Tooly". A little less tool watch like.
My wrist is 7.25 i like the 36mm just don't know how great it will look on my wrist with that said i don't like a big watch and i don't like the 41mm version it looks goofy.
You should try it in person.
@@GFWatch there is no tudor dealer where i live unfortunately, for me the spacing on the dial is off on the 41mm the watch should have been made at 38 or 39mm with a domed sapphire then its a perfect watch but we all know those don't exist.
Do you find the lack of AR coating a problem with day to day use. Or after 2 years are you simply just used to it now?
I think it's still okay because it's a flat crystal. If it's a domed crystal, i think I will find it bothersome.
@@GFWatch Good point. Thanks for replying.
EXCELENTE RELÓGIO 👍👍👍 🇧🇷
Bizarre choice of clasp for a small watch! Makes you wonder who makes those decisions
😂
I have a 7 inch wrist size and I’m trying to decide if the 36 or 41 is the better choice. What do you think ?
I think 36mm would work but I suggest trying both of them out. At the end of the day, it depends on your own preference.
36mm ....I have a 7" wrist and have tried on the BB 36 and it looked great ...
I have an 8 inch wrist, chose the 36. Definitely the better watch
I think this my next and final watch. Is there waiting times on them from AD?
No waiting time needed for this model.
@@GFWatch perfect, thanks. Great review.
Thanks to you sir I have purchased the blue dial and couldn't be happier with it. It is just perfect. Perfect look, perfect weight and it is the ideal every day watch. Thanks so much for the great review again.
@@Matty9003 Congrats!
Did you ever consider the blue dial?
The blue dial was introduced after I got this.
What is your wrist size?
6 inch
@@GFWatch I have a 5.8-5.9 inches wrist. Do you think I should go with the 32 or the 36?
I think 36 will be fine but you should try both and pick the one you're most comfortable with
Why would you have a travel pouch for a watch, why not just wear it ?
If I travel, I'd normally travel with a few watches and depending on the number of days it can be anything from 2 to 6 watches
This watch is really nice and it's even nicer in person. The new model is nice but this black version is a classic. It's fat from an entry level watch. £2670 isn't entry level, a Seiko Sxk is entry level
This will be definitely my next watch. I just cant decide if I want the base ones or the new two tone models.
I noticed that the Tip of the Triangle Point does not align perfectly with the Tudor Shield. Might want to check and confirm that.
You sound like Treebeard from lotr
First!
Edit: It's going to be journey but I'd rather save for OP39 as I feel that would be a very elegant, under the radar; more so than this Tudor 36.
Love those snowflake hands but it looks too big and takes up most of space in 36, in 58 it is gorgeous!
I kind of feel like the proportion of the hands on this dial looks just right :) Love the snowflake hands too!
To each his/her own 😊
Be careful if you have small wrists. The lug to lug dimensions for the 39mm OP is 47.3mm. That's huge for a 39mm watch.
It’s not Tudor’s fault. You have a tinny wrist. Try de 32mm BB.
Almost sold mine today. Glad I did not :D
Looks like a Black Bay with the bezel having fallen off. The crown sticking out looks as if it’s not screwed down properly. The clasp is terrible. Apart from these huge issues it’s not a bad watch. Lol. I laugh that people always say that the ETA movement is modified and regulated by Tudor but can easily be worked on by any watchmaker. Just a tad contradictory it’s either worked on which means not generic ETA parts that needs replaced at service or genuine Tudor parts that may be required . This means sending to a watchmaker with a Tudor parts account or a butcher who will just stick in any old ETA part.
The clasp is actually amazing
Would be better with Mercedes hands
Manlet
Looks like you never ever wore it
eat something = problem solved