The REAL Story of Medusa (is complicated) - Mythconceptions

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  • @JakeDoubleyoo
    @JakeDoubleyoo  Год назад +181

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  • @LegoDude3258
    @LegoDude3258 Год назад +1815

    Can we just appreciate how Jake made Monster Medusa forward facing and Pretty Medusa glancing to the side just like he mentioned in the video.

  • @lern2reed
    @lern2reed Год назад +2040

    I like that you took the time to give the Roman gods unique designs instead of using the usual ones. They were originally different gods than the Greek pantheon.

    • @QuartzIsAnOxide
      @QuartzIsAnOxide Год назад +43

      Certified Percy Jackson fan.

    • @sonofcronos7831
      @sonofcronos7831 Год назад +25

      ​@@QuartzIsAnOxide but in percy jackson they are the same with diferent personalites, that is not accurate to how the mythology worked in real life

    • @QuartzIsAnOxide
      @QuartzIsAnOxide Год назад +18

      @@sonofcronos7831 They're also described as wearing different clothes from what I remember. At one point Percy even points out that Bacchus looks skinnier than his Greek counterpart.

    • @sonofcronos7831
      @sonofcronos7831 Год назад +18

      @@QuartzIsAnOxide i actually do not like the portrays of gods in percy jackson when refering to the roman part. Like, Helios being forgetten was not true, and not all the roman counterpart were more "disciplined" (the fandom puts in this way), especially Neptune and Volcanos. Also, i trought Dionisius portrayl in the first books was already influenced by Bacchus? In archaic and classical Greece Dionisius he even had a beard and he was skinny (while in lighting thief is the totally opposite), while later he was portrayed as more jovial, beardless and not that skinny during the roman period and in rennascence (and this period was influenced by roman mythology, not greek).

    • @isaacgray2909
      @isaacgray2909 Год назад +4

      It would be interesting to see Jake make a mythconception video on this

  • @King_Ben_IV
    @King_Ben_IV Год назад +587

    It's also important to note that Ovid was anti-authority so always painted the gods as tyrannical jerks. Hence him writing Medusa as a victim of two god-based atrocities

    • @durrangodsgrief6503
      @durrangodsgrief6503 Год назад +55

      Yep Poseidon should get saul to sue for damage to his image

    • @msicvbes4977
      @msicvbes4977 Год назад +48

      Yeah exactly, Ovid's anti-authoritorian themes were very prominent in his book Metamorphoses (lit. 'Transformations'), which was meant to give subtle political commentary.

    • @jackyex
      @jackyex Год назад +18

      Yes, that's also visible in many if his writings, like his version of the tale of Arachne

    • @sonofcronos7831
      @sonofcronos7831 Год назад +16

      Ovid is pious to the gods in his other works. Metamorphoses covers love stories (with exception of a few ones). Love between equals will always lead to a good result, love between a superior and a inferior will lead to disasters. This is why love between gods and humans leads to tragedies, where the human or nymph by the end is desuhamize literaly, to become a plant or animal or monster. But there is also stories between humans who also leads to tragedies like Narcissus or Tereus. So saying that the book is anti autoritharian is a very simple review of a book about love tales.

    • @sonofcronos7831
      @sonofcronos7831 Год назад +7

      ​​@@msicvbes4977 the book is not about politics, is about love. Love between equals=good, love between a superior (someone that tries to control or possess his partner) and a "inferior" (the one possessed by his partner)=a inhuman metamorphosis. This is why he uses gods more often since is clear that gods are intented to be this superior force that controls you. But he also uses human people as well like Narcissus and Tereus to show that humans also leads to inhuman metamorphosis.

  • @johnyesjustjohn
    @johnyesjustjohn Год назад +168

    I once had an idea of a movie that starts with Perseus slaying Medusa and putting her head in a bag, and the first words spoken are Medusa saying, “Fine, you win, can you let me out now?” And it becomes a weird road trip buddy comedy. 😆

    • @isaacevilman7586
      @isaacevilman7586 Год назад +22

      You just described the game Lollipop Chainsaw.
      Zombie outbreak happens, main character’s boyfriend gets bitten, so she cuts off his head to save him from turning and carries it around on her belt.

    • @johnyesjustjohn
      @johnyesjustjohn Год назад +11

      @@isaacevilman7586 You have a point! Though Perseus would probably not have a chainsaw. Also, there's a talking head in God of War, and a few talking skulls in other games!

    • @Darkgun231
      @Darkgun231 Год назад +7

      I like that idea. And do baby versions of Pegasus and Chrysaor tag along, calling Perseus 'Dad' all the while?

    • @Alexandraadftxr7052
      @Alexandraadftxr7052 Год назад +4

      Can I be honest? I like the idea. I would defenetly read it, or watch it. Sounds fun, especially if both Perseus, and Medusa sometimes naret it, which sometimes over lap, and they eather agree on something, or arguu about it, or something similar.

    • @joseberger7737
      @joseberger7737 29 дней назад

      instead of Medusa, maybe incorporate her 2 immortal sisters and have Perseus decapitate her instead

  • @TheMythologyGuy1
    @TheMythologyGuy1 Год назад +171

    Dang! You beat me to it. I've been doing research for this exact kind of video for a few weeks now. Nice job though. This argument pops up a lot in my comments too so it's good to get the full info out there.

  • @cosmok-1367
    @cosmok-1367 Год назад +482

    As a fan of mythology itself, it is refreshing to see someone manage to cover every single aspect of tales, not just from one source. And it really shows how people will evolve certain stories to try and fit it into a narrative to be more accecptable to the times, rather than keep it to what the orginal lessons were attempting to teach. Whether Medusa was orginally a monster from birth or turned into one, I think it's fasinating that her symbol managed to come full circle as a face that represents protection and wards off evil. Alibiet for different reasons for a certain group, but it's one of the few stories from mythology that managed to keep it's orgins in some way.
    Out of curoisity, I know you did some videos about Persephone and Hades and the story about them, but would it be possible if you could cover the REAL story of Hades and Persehone and explain why many people might interput what was once considered an empowering yet tragic tale of a mother and daughters lost rapture, to that of a forbidden romance of the god of the underworld with innocent flower girl? I would love to see your take on that topic!

    • @JakeDoubleyoo
      @JakeDoubleyoo  Год назад +124

      I'm definitely gonna make a Hades and Persephone deep dive. When I have the energy...

    • @dmr2200
      @dmr2200 Год назад +17

      ​@Ian McNicol I'm a Classics student, and one of my teachers (literally the world's leading expert on Underworldly gods in ancient Greece, Dr. Ellie Mackin Roberts) said that OSP's video is probably the most discouraging video she's seen on Hades and Persephone by virtue of: "not one thing about it being correct" 💀

    • @dmr2200
      @dmr2200 Год назад +11

      @Ian McNicol From what Dr. Roberts said the "Bronze Age/ Mycenaean Persephone" discussed in their video doesn't exist and was likely Perses-later the father of Hekate. Early scholars first made the connection between Persephone and the Mycenaean record based on loose etymological similarities, such as the words seemingly looking alike when transliterated. I'm not sure about the details, as the Bronze Age isn't my area of expertise, but Dr. Roberts emphasized that the methodology used to make the connection was flawed and long outmoded. That's another thing, too: we know more about Despoina than they let on, and many of the connections they made weren't right. Despoina was an Arkadian goddess who was worshipped alongside Kore-Persephone, making them separate goddesses.

    • @dmr2200
      @dmr2200 Год назад +12

      @Ian McNicol My biggest issue with them as a Classics student is that they don't reference their sources. I know for a fact that they use Wikipedia (which isn't nearly enough when you're making historical videos), and it doesn't take very long to put some links in a description, but they don't do that. This creator's video is fantastic, but I also wish he would put together a "works cited" in the description lol

    • @THATBLUEBLAZER
      @THATBLUEBLAZER Год назад +4

      Like the essay!

  • @djgjdkkd5006
    @djgjdkkd5006 Год назад +477

    I'll wait 10+ hours in the name of Jake Doubleyoo, it's so worth it.

    • @Retronomicon18
      @Retronomicon18 Год назад +6

      We shall do it together, comrade.

    • @JohnNotAMurderer
      @JohnNotAMurderer Год назад +1

      I won't

    • @Syncrotron9001
      @Syncrotron9001 Год назад +3

      I would walk 500 miles?

    • @WorldWeaver
      @WorldWeaver Год назад +2

      @@Syncrotron9001 ~and I would walk 500 more~

    • @djgjdkkd5006
      @djgjdkkd5006 Год назад

      @@WorldWeaver Just to be the man who walked a thousand
      Miles to fall down at your door!

  • @maxcat1970
    @maxcat1970 Год назад +346

    The roman characters having a diferent design is so dope!!!! I wish we could see them all!

  • @cryptic1999
    @cryptic1999 Год назад +57

    I kinda prefer the version of Medusa where she was always a gorgon because then the whole shabang where she and Poseidon went at it in Athena's temple would make more sense if Athena would be more pissed that a monster defiled her temple like that.

    • @AlecEburhard
      @AlecEburhard 6 месяцев назад +9

      Same. Especially since scholars are theorizing that Medusa was originally a goddess worshiped in the area that part of the story until people started worshipping Athena, so it can also have a revenge angle.

  • @lunatickgeo
    @lunatickgeo Год назад +337

    Wait, if the latest version is Athena granting Medusa the ability to turn men into stone to protect her, how do they reconcile that Athena is one of the gods who helped Perseus in his quest to slay the gorgon?

    • @ferencjenoerdei2893
      @ferencjenoerdei2893 Год назад +103

      They don’t care about that tiny detail lol.

    • @Tutyluly
      @Tutyluly Год назад +76

      In a video about the birth of Pegasus, there was an argument about Medusa's curse and whether it was a punishment or a gift, during the argument, someone asked the same question as yours, and the commenter (who the argument started in their replies) said that Zeus forced Athena to help Perseus

    • @lunatickgeo
      @lunatickgeo Год назад +47

      @@Tutyluly yep, sounds like Zeus

    • @zantosender3348
      @zantosender3348 Год назад +47

      @@Tutyluly Would that be the first time Zeus forced his favorite daughter to do anything?

    • @videogollumer
      @videogollumer Год назад +56

      Blame Ovid for starting the garbage in the first place.

  • @omarsalem1219
    @omarsalem1219 Год назад +177

    The fact that you came up with new designs for The roman versions of the gods is amazing, the effort you put In your videos is very admirable

    • @puppies3330
      @puppies3330 8 месяцев назад +2

      fr,Neptune looks more intimidating than Poseidon’s art (no offense to Poseidon)

  • @Gojiro7
    @Gojiro7 Год назад +116

    HADES depiction with Dusa is easily my favorite take on the character, turning everyone's most hated Castlevania foe the flying Medusa heads and turning her into a shy but hard working loveable gal that I totally own a plush of because shes awesome XD

    • @sylvanas9329
      @sylvanas9329 Год назад +12

      The fact that floating head Medusa actually seems to have a mythological source just makes her better

    • @Gojiro7
      @Gojiro7 Год назад +7

      @@sylvanas9329 im curious if the folks at Konami back in the day knew that about Medusa's origin or if the whole floating head thing was just a really lucky coincidence, with them being japanese in the pre "look up whatever you want on the internet" era, I'm not sure how likely it is but its still neat

  • @videogollumer
    @videogollumer Год назад +54

    I know Ovid probably had it rough, but I just think it's kinda pathetic that he reinvented Medusa's backstory just to make Athena/Minerva look bad out of spite. It wouldn't be so bad if it hadn't become so "influential".

    • @sonofcronos7831
      @sonofcronos7831 Год назад +7

      Actually he says that she was transformed "to remember the crime". Is just like Zeus creating constelations for some evil folk like Orion, to preserve the memory of the crime. It is odd for us today, but in anciet times, people liked to use constelations or statues (like the gorgonion statues) to remember people that the world could be a awful place and that we need to ward of evil. Also, Ovid himself was very pious towards the gods in his other works, is more in metamorphoses were he invents the awful versions, but because he was "anti-autoritarian" is very unlikely, altrough it still could be.

    • @videogollumer
      @videogollumer Год назад

      @@sonofcronos7831 Did he write those other works BEFORE he was exiled or after?

    • @sonofcronos7831
      @sonofcronos7831 Год назад +4

      @@videogollumer Ovid metamorphoses was written before his exile, while Fasti he never finished because he died in exile. But in fasti and other works he do not bash the gods. Metamorphoses is a book of poetry, it portrays love between human characters in a good way, ending with a happy ending, or ending with a tragedy, normally by external things to the couple. But it potrays love by gods as terrible, r4pe or just awful in general. He even finished his work saying that not even Jupiter could destroy it (and he was right).
      So he see myths just as a way to tell stories, he clearly did not believe in them, but he believed in the gods, at least he had nothing against them. He invented the stories and tries to portray the gods as horrible as he can in order to elevate human love, not out of spite against autoritarianism. A guy that really liked to bash gods was the writer Lucian, not Ovid.

  • @Dancin_Time
    @Dancin_Time Год назад +172

    Personally, my favorite version of Medusa is from the Fate series. It manages to blend the older interpretations with the newer ones very well. While the most famous version of Fate's Medusa is a beautiful woman, there is also her future self, the Gorgon who looks more monstrous. In her series debut, she is a protector of a young girl who helped carry out her wish, but that didn't mean she was passive considering she fought for her and, in some timelines, even dies for her . The sequel to that original series also gave her more backstory showing that she started a beautiful woman that turned monstrous to protect her sisters, only to devour them. Her death at Perseus' hand is seen as both an epic battle and a mercy kil considering she was nothing more than a writhing mass of snakes when Perseus got to her. In the series where her future self debuted, she was mistaken for the mesopotamian earth goddess Tiamat, showing that they didn't forget her origins as a goddess.
    To recap the blending of old and new interpretaions, we have:
    -Protector
    -Protector of women
    -Willing to use violence
    -Beautiful woman
    -Terrifying monster
    -A mere human
    -Seen as a goddess
    When seeing all that, it makes sense why she is my favorite interpretation since she isn’t shown as merely a tragic figure, or a terrifying monster, and is instead blended beautifully into a new character who takes everything into account from being a protector of women seen in the modern day and being seen as a monstrous goddess all the way back from her earliest iterations

    • @firepuppies4086
      @firepuppies4086 Год назад +14

      Let's also remember the use of her.. being like, an adult? Compared to her sister's looking youthful because, it's better immortality to stay young than age because if you age while immortal it ends up being a curse

    • @nkyfong
      @nkyfong Год назад +12

      So basically they used the kitchen sink approach and it actually worked. Great job Type Moon!

    • @michaelwaring1028
      @michaelwaring1028 Год назад +11

      @@nkyfong Honestly, the "kitchen sink" approach has been their M.O. from the very beginning, and I LOVE them for that. TM/the Nasuverse is the main inspiration I draw from for my own books.

  • @thebaldcat6708
    @thebaldcat6708 Год назад +622

    Jake, 10/10 on the new character design man, well done

    • @Whatsgoodgamersitsyaboybk309
      @Whatsgoodgamersitsyaboybk309 Год назад +35

      Agreed but I will miss the soulless of the old design

    • @inigo-montoya
      @inigo-montoya Год назад +15

      I honestly prefer the old design, i feel like the new design breaks the inmersion that the one drawn as another character had

    • @polygonally_dunce7813
      @polygonally_dunce7813 Год назад +3

      i mean you can just imagine his character having no white in his eyes and you now have classic jake

    • @soontobechannel743
      @soontobechannel743 Год назад +7

      His new design scared me for a bit ngl, he starts off with the pupils and no whites and then BAM, now you have less-soulless eyes.

    • @Alex-pe7jw
      @Alex-pe7jw Год назад +3

      I liked the old character with its simplicity and those eyes with no pupils

  • @mace1730
    @mace1730 Год назад +143

    You should make a video explaining the Roman forms of the gods

    • @thehistorianjt3929
      @thehistorianjt3929 Год назад +3

      I agree

    • @fredlloyd-ward6141
      @fredlloyd-ward6141 Год назад +1

      That's good

    • @sonofcronos7831
      @sonofcronos7831 Год назад +14

      They were different gods before being merged with greek ones in the IV century B.C, but even after the merger they were still diferent (Jupiter for example was more democratic than Zeus, ruling together with Juno and Minerva instead of alone like Zeus, actually you can see Jupiter as a wiser Zeus after thousands of years, changing his way after thousands of years, this also applies to others). So yeah it would be interisting to see a video.

    • @MasayoshiTakanakafan
      @MasayoshiTakanakafan Год назад +7

      The idea of ‘Roman Forms’ of gods came from Percy Jackson. They were different gods in Rome before greek god incorporation. Even after Greek god incorporation, the ceremonies were different even if they shared stories

    • @Syncrotron9001
      @Syncrotron9001 Год назад

      Make a video about how the Medusa myth has been confirmed by modern quantum physics. Its called the Quantum Zeno Effect.

  • @E_A_T_S
    @E_A_T_S Год назад +27

    5:00
    Am I missing something, or did Homer just pause mid-writing to say Danae had marvellous ankles 😭

    • @API-Beast
      @API-Beast Год назад +8

      It's just how Greek writers would describe women as beautiful.

    • @lucavandenbrink4198
      @lucavandenbrink4198 Год назад +2

      It probably has something to do with the rythm, a lot of characters have these kinds description

  • @manmoy4104
    @manmoy4104 Год назад +23

    I saw an online photo of a contemporary sculpture of Medusa holding Perseus's severed head. That artpiece was obviously of the 'medusa = righteous feminist rage" mindset, but it really didn't sit well with me how Perseus was being demonized in this line of thought, Perseus who is the one Greek hero I know of who had the least hubristic tendencies. It was all a very much 'trying to empower one group at the expense of another' kind of approach to a very ancient story from ancient times

    • @ISS600
      @ISS600 11 месяцев назад +5

      I think I know that statue and I had the same dislike, though not for the same reason. I dislike it because I've always heard the "Medusa was always a monster with 3 sisters" and that kind of interpretation is just weird for me. As I learned more of her, it just didn't work in my eyes. Like, what about her sisters like Stheno or how she turns everyone to stone regardless of who they are, or that she kills people a lot by doing that?

    • @spilledteaissadtea3037
      @spilledteaissadtea3037 9 месяцев назад +8

      Same. I don’t mind the statue but I’m of the belief that we need a new retailing of the Medusa story where people don’t demonize Persuse. Because man was a kid trying to save his mom from a creep, he’s not the villain if anything he’s a victim who was sent on a suicide mission. So what I’m saying is I think people severely miss the point when they demonize him to and not the actual creep in this story.

    • @AlecEburhard
      @AlecEburhard 6 месяцев назад +7

      Plus all Perseus wanted was to stop a nefarious king from forcibly marrying his mom. He likely didn’t even know anything about Medusa other than why she was dangerous.

  • @ZekeStaright
    @ZekeStaright Год назад +37

    I remember hearing the story of how Medusa was turned into a snake haired monster & also that she had sisters that were also gorgons but never heard anything for how they became such, this clears up so much.
    Thank You Jake.

  • @brig5730
    @brig5730 Год назад +13

    I guess the Athena turning Medusa into a gorgon as a gift doesn’t make sense as if I’m remember correctly, all the versions of the perseus myth I’ve heard or read have Athena helping Perseus

  • @m.e.vangel3461
    @m.e.vangel3461 Год назад +17

    I like how Jake is literally baking ice

    • @videogollumer
      @videogollumer Год назад +1

      He's melting/stiring it in a frying pan.

  • @tylerray1368
    @tylerray1368 Год назад +13

    I'm pretty sure the more modern version of Medusa, with her being turned to protect her, is from Tumblr.

  • @RookseyeLmao
    @RookseyeLmao Год назад +25

    Stories like medusa are so cool to me because over time they change and sprout so many branches of lesson and symbolism to them as tales. it's why the minotaur is my favourite story because with all the tellings ive read and collected over the years it could be a story about violence, guilt, fear of something outside the norm, gender expression, prisoners of war, child abuse, hell in some tellings the minotaur is a woman in love with theseus. It's honestly so awesome to me how ancient fables like these change and grow so many legs that they're practically the millipedes of classical mythology. ^_^

  • @tuckt6370
    @tuckt6370 Год назад +16

    i can see into the future this is gonna be good

    • @koenbultman9781
      @koenbultman9781 Год назад

      Thanks for telling us

    • @ilikefrogs4568
      @ilikefrogs4568 Год назад +1

      You don’t need to see into the future to be able to tell that

  • @Styxaaaa
    @Styxaaaa Год назад +30

    The new animation style is so cool!

  • @Backwoodspsycho
    @Backwoodspsycho Год назад +17

    I love the new jake character. I love it when I can watch a creator change and evolve overtime. Keep up the great work Jake, and just know we love your content.

  • @lassesgamekanaal
    @lassesgamekanaal Год назад +10

    Thank you so much for doing a deep dive on Medusa, she's my favourite mythological character ever and there's just so much misinformation about her and people claiming the version of the story they are familiar with is the original or the right version.

  • @Time_Rat
    @Time_Rat Год назад +8

    There's like 9 people waiting
    ARE YOU GUYS GONNA WAIT UNTIL THIS GOES LIVE???

  • @Akimittsun
    @Akimittsun Год назад +11

    The old Jake design was already nice, but I'm really loving the new one even more

  • @FLCL_rox
    @FLCL_rox Месяц назад +2

    I love the old fashion mischief making look of Medusa. It just looks like some lil gremlin that would just jump around monsters biting at them and just being like a rubberhose cartoon menace until the monsters of the world were scared off.

  • @ghotidefroste1269
    @ghotidefroste1269 Год назад +6

    The first time I ever heard that version of Medusa you were referring to, where her power was a gift from Athena rather than a punishment, was in the remake of Clash of the Titans. Io was talking to Perseus and the soldiers from Argos as they were taking the boat to the underworld. I had heard of several people suggesting she was a tragic victim, but that movie was the first time I'd seen anyone put that spin on the story.

  • @SparkleWolf404
    @SparkleWolf404 Год назад +8

    I definitely remember hearing it the more modern version from Tumblr, I think they also made up a fake deity too

  • @shadoww4818
    @shadoww4818 Год назад +13

    Love the new avatar and emphasis on evolving and changing mythos!

  • @HereticalKitsune
    @HereticalKitsune Год назад +28

    Fascinating history, thanks for bringing it to us!

  • @russergee49
    @russergee49 Год назад +9

    Well researched and fun as always, Jake. Thank you!
    I wonder if using a gorgon’s face to ward off evil is similar to how modern Greeks use the evil eye to ward off bad vibes. It’s less “this thing will protect me from evil” and more “I keep the symbol of something evil/malintentioned close to me to discourage any other evil/malintentioned energy or event from harming me”.
    Couple of modern language quirks - ‘gorgon’ in modern Greek is also used to mean mermaid, and one of the words for jellyfish is ‘medusa’.

  • @pikelboi9674
    @pikelboi9674 Год назад +12

    4:38 the text makes me imagine that chrysaor and pegasus weren’t born from her neck but instead they just showed up and said “hey”

  • @dmr2200
    @dmr2200 Год назад +6

    As a Classics undergrad, I usually can't stomach videos on ancient Greek mythology (the misinformation ruins the experience for me) 😭 but this video was fantastic! The animations are also super charming

  • @glasscardproductions4736
    @glasscardproductions4736 Год назад +30

    8:35
    I believe it may have originated as a creative writing Tumblr Post.
    It fits our writing style and broadly how many of us enjoy a twist on ancient stories.
    Plus, I've heard something similar said on Tumblr several times, so it's likely from us.

    • @nottotallyhere802
      @nottotallyhere802 Год назад +2

      Seconded, the first place I saw the interpretation was tumblr.

    • @TheObsidianX
      @TheObsidianX Год назад +5

      I may have seen a different tumblr post but I seem to remember it claiming that this was the original version of the story which would imply they heard it somewhere else unless they were purposely trying to change the myth.

  • @BuddyWhite616
    @BuddyWhite616 11 месяцев назад +3

    Im glad you added the note about how gargoyle an gorgon don’t come from the same rt cuz i thought they did learn something every day

  • @thatonenerd21
    @thatonenerd21 Год назад +2

    Your animations have improved greatly!
    ( Also the fact you used new designs for the Roman Versions shows your dedication!)

  • @joshuabautch8936
    @joshuabautch8936 Год назад +10

    ima be honest
    while you should keep the smaller more chibi-like characters for the stories themselves
    your appearance in this specific video is too adorable not to make your default

  • @raymondwhatley9954
    @raymondwhatley9954 Год назад +14

    I always thought that Chrysaor's nature is something of a lost facet of the mythology and that all we really know is that his name means "He has a golden sword". I think I've seen the boar depictions but I'm curious as to whether you suppose there might have been another version of him where he had hands and wielded a sword.

  • @nuelieandoccasionallybella8497

    This is one of my favorite channels and I had so much fun watching this

  • @Spunky_Fire
    @Spunky_Fire Год назад +1

    I get so happy and excited when Jake posts😭💗💗

  • @Bring-the-dislike-button-back
    @Bring-the-dislike-button-back Год назад +5

    I like this new way he’s animating, his videos 10/10

  • @jaxjaxattaxx
    @jaxjaxattaxx Год назад +128

    So as a sex worker (Dominatrix, Onlyfans, etc) this was really, REALLY interesting because Medusa has gone on to become both a feminist icon, but an icon for sex workers who’ve been assaulted, but can’t or are too afraid to report their attacker because the form of sex work they may have been engaging in to survive may not have been legal (ex. Onlyfans, P0rn & Stripping being legal compared to FSS which is illegal), so there’s always the very real risk of the assaulted sex worker going to jail instead of their attacker, hence the reference to modern day Medusa being assaulted and her attacker not seeing justice.
    So hearing the differences in the original story is amazing and this video was so needed.

    • @jmurray1110
      @jmurray1110 Год назад +22

      The attitudes surrounding sex work is absolutely vile
      SWERF needs to take as much vitriol as the term TERF already implies

    • @jaxjaxattaxx
      @jaxjaxattaxx Год назад +5

      @@jmurray1110 Agreed❤

    • @Lemuel928
      @Lemuel928 Год назад

      I don’t say much but dang it Shirou Emiya.

    • @christopherb501
      @christopherb501 Год назад

      ​@@jmurray1110 The unevolved dregs of the Second Wave have MUCH to answer for.

    • @birdmcturd1626
      @birdmcturd1626 10 месяцев назад +1

      While I agree that sex workers deserve to be able to do their jobs safely,this interpretation really rubs me the wrong way. It paints Thesus as a monster for killing her and I really don’t think that’s a fair interpretation. With the exception of making Thesus look like the bad guy,I think it’s a good interpretation although it does ignore the fact Medusa turns anyone she looks at into stone (from what I’ve heard,her sheer ugliness turns you to stone,it’s not like a magical gaze) so it’s a bit more than a defence mechanism

  • @olyahakobyan8055
    @olyahakobyan8055 8 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks! Your videos are really fun to watch and well-researched! :)

  • @eltonmateusnevesneves
    @eltonmateusnevesneves Год назад +3

    It's funny how medusa went from a race of monsters to a unique creature back to a race of monsters

  • @NP3GA
    @NP3GA Год назад +7

    As a greek I'm very conflicted on the subject. On one hand, the fact that the myths of my ancestors are not only still remember but inspire people across the world brings a lot of joy. On the other hand, the fact that the most prominent version of the myth (Medusa's myth) now a days is the one who was created by an Italian as a way to throw shit to his former boss and has not only portrait our old gods as jerks but it has starting to give rise to a villfication of one of our most prominent folklore heroes is somewhat disheartening

  • @Shadow1Yaz
    @Shadow1Yaz Год назад

    Design change! Very nice! It looks good and you can track the eye line
    My word, your Raycon ad was amazing!

  • @ImNotGoodAtAnimation
    @ImNotGoodAtAnimation Год назад +1

    i love your new avatar!
    its way more expressive now :D

  • @Necruno
    @Necruno Год назад +1

    i like the new way you present stuff with the drawing of you actually showing it

  • @rexred7149
    @rexred7149 Год назад +15

    That’s very interesting I did not know there’s different versions of medusa stories I have one question and that is what difference between the Greek gods and the Roman gods how they’re so similar and different the same time can you make a video about that 😊

    • @WhyYouMadBoi
      @WhyYouMadBoi Год назад +1

      Roman gods mainly Zeus is stronger than the greek ones usually. There are others.

    • @rexred7149
      @rexred7149 Год назад

      @@WhyYouMadBoi thank you for the information I guess 😊

  • @m.e.vangel3461
    @m.e.vangel3461 Год назад +4

    2:55 ah yes, my favorite meal
    Fried ice

    • @CoffeeTheThird
      @CoffeeTheThird Год назад +1

      It’s called, “Stir cooked frozen water” sir.

  • @CreZsent_Mo0n
    @CreZsent_Mo0n Год назад

    i love how your style is improving

  • @KarmasAB123
    @KarmasAB123 6 месяцев назад +3

    1:20 Looks like Sid from Ice Age XD

  • @EveryArchive
    @EveryArchive Год назад

    loved this one! i could see the unique changes in design at least a bit, clearly your design changed to have full-on EYES, but I enjoy it. as always.

  • @Sameeer_Saker
    @Sameeer_Saker Год назад

    Congrats man, I loved the new artstyle

  • @LucasBenderChannel
    @LucasBenderChannel Год назад +2

    Cute new expressive eyes! :) Drastically changes the character's look.

  • @silverlyne9954
    @silverlyne9954 Год назад +4

    Well wait as long as it takes until this video premiers

  • @lemonsnake5117
    @lemonsnake5117 Год назад +3

    I find Medusas story, and it’s many different versions very intriguing and interesting. I personally think that Natalie Haynes did a wonderful job at combining some of the many versions with each other, in a way that ads up, in her book “stone blind”. I highly recommend it to any one who’s open for different takes on beloved myth’s. ^^

  • @mangolinpangolin7089
    @mangolinpangolin7089 Год назад

    I like the seemingly more cleaned up artwork, good job!

  • @drakanda
    @drakanda Год назад

    Your new look... The pink sweater, the MOVING PUPILS! Love it!

  • @bloodflame_the_dino4046
    @bloodflame_the_dino4046 Год назад

    That is is the only RUclipsr I actually watch through the sponsees, as he makes it sound good AND does funny things in the background

  • @mraxo6241
    @mraxo6241 Год назад +1

    I love the new art style it amazing 😊

  • @kawaiikoffing
    @kawaiikoffing Год назад

    I really like the new style for your avitar/character thing!

  • @Tophat-Turtle
    @Tophat-Turtle Год назад +1

    Love the art style switch, 10/10

  • @Darkgun231
    @Darkgun231 Год назад +3

    Oh, so the wings the gorgon had are why she gave birth to a flying horse and boar through her severed neck. Makes sense!

  • @iSweetRoll
    @iSweetRoll Год назад +3

    Holy shit the new charcoal design of him is so adorable what 😭

  • @THATBLUEBLAZER
    @THATBLUEBLAZER Год назад +1

    Like the new eyes on jake! (plus already listening to this on Raycons)

  • @hypocriticalcritic6915
    @hypocriticalcritic6915 Год назад

    Love your work, dude

  • @cassstacey
    @cassstacey Год назад +5

    Hey Jake if it's not too much trouble could you do a video on the Irish "Táin Bó Cúailnge"?
    I'd like to see your interpretation of characters like Cu Chulainn, Scathach and Medb, and I think you'd do an exceptional job of telling the story.

  • @fang609
    @fang609 Год назад

    Pretty awesome look on Medusas history, it is quite fascinating how shes changed over time and how shes treated nowdays.
    Also like the new Jake avatar his neat.

  • @ciangilmour839
    @ciangilmour839 Год назад

    Love the new eyes bro. Also very good info as always

  • @stefanopani2848
    @stefanopani2848 Год назад +2

    In Sardinia there are different legends about Medusa and in those cases she is just a beautiful queen who protects her relam after her father (Phorcus) death against Atlante, and then she was killed in a battle.
    Medusa (or better Mèdousa) means protector in Greek

  • @Starii_64
    @Starii_64 Год назад +3

    I like the addition of your avatar in the video! Maybe your should include him more often

  • @lissaxitray8110
    @lissaxitray8110 Год назад

    The new character designs look cool!

  • @Kaimli
    @Kaimli Год назад +3

    its probably already been said but i think the original interpretation of medusas transformation being meant as a way to protect herself is I THINK from tumblr

  • @random_dragon
    @random_dragon 8 месяцев назад +1

    I took an art history class and we learned a bit about why Medusa was put on shields
    I can't remember it much, so I'm glqd this video covered it!

  • @originaluddite
    @originaluddite Год назад +3

    I like how Ray Harryhausen brings back the monstrous Medusa somewhat with the body-covering scales and the serpentine lower body in Clash Of The Titans (1981). In that movie, Perseus rides Pegasus _before_ killing Medusa, which is interesting to contrast with the mythic origin of that winged horse.
    Another small corner of popular culture - Dungeons & Dragons - has also complicated matters by using the name 'gorgon' for a metallic bull-like monster that medieval bestiaries called the Libyan Bull. Having done that, they then called an entire race of snake-braided women 'Medusae'. So confusing.

  • @l0vely_sach1k0
    @l0vely_sach1k0 Год назад +1

    I can wait.

  • @cacyk4103
    @cacyk4103 Год назад +4

    Im not sure if Im terrified or amazed by your new design

  • @realrickyshea
    @realrickyshea Год назад

    Loving the new animated character for yourself!

  • @Kaleisbord
    @Kaleisbord Год назад

    Love the new art style

  • @whynotawarlock
    @whynotawarlock Год назад

    i love
    your videos keep up the good work

  • @07reanno4
    @07reanno4 Год назад

    I am so happy he came into my feed

  • @videogollumer
    @videogollumer Год назад +5

    The strange thing is that D&D calls the snake-haired monsters in the game "Medusae" while they use "Gorgons" refer to predatory stone bulls who petrify creatures with their breath, smash them, then eat them.

    • @doncalicula7938
      @doncalicula7938 Год назад

      I think D&D did this because Gorgons in classic greek mythology are considert two different typ of monster. The Three gorgon-sisters and then an gorgon-monster that exist with no relationship to them.

    • @videogollumer
      @videogollumer Год назад +3

      @@doncalicula7938 I looked it up, D&D seems to have based it on a variant of the Catoblepas that has petrification breath, which has been referred to as an "African Gorgan", while the monster D&D calls "Catoblepas" is based on the variant that has a death stare.

    • @doncalicula7938
      @doncalicula7938 Год назад +1

      @@videogollumer Ah, I forgot about the Catoblepas. But this makes sence.

  • @theforrgotenchild
    @theforrgotenchild Год назад

    Thank you I was a bit confused after hearing lots of different story’s this help me know what was what

  • @MouseCreations
    @MouseCreations Год назад +4

    How have I never heard of this new version of her? I only ever heard of the original one

  • @Dtak-us9rt
    @Dtak-us9rt Год назад +3

    I first heard a Medusa story that went
    “Medusa was a vain little ***** who was so vain when first visiting the temple of Athena for the first time so her and her sisters were turned into gorgons”
    Yeah, I never learnt a real way of Medusa becoming a gorgon until recently

  • @zionleach3001
    @zionleach3001 Год назад +1

    In the words of Bobby Singer. Mythology is just the worlds longest telephone game.

  • @himynameiskobey.7994
    @himynameiskobey.7994 Год назад

    I love the slightly revamped animation style. Of course it's mainly just him including himself more but still, it looks great.

  • @tylerpatti9038
    @tylerpatti9038 Год назад +3

    Greek artist: What if gorgons were sexy?
    Greek poet: What why would gorgons be sexy? The whole point of a Gorgon is it supposed to be a hideous, scary monster that doesn’t make any sense. they’re not supposed to be sexy.
    Greek artist: But what if they were?!
    Greek poet: You desperately need to go outside.
    Greek artist:…
    Greek poet: you need to leave this art studio, feel the grass neath your feet, And for Zeus sake, get laid.
    Greek artist:…
    Greek poet :…
    Greek artist: Is it really that obvious?-
    Greek poet: Nothing is more apparent to me in this moment than that fact.
    Now put on the chisel and come outside. I’m choking on the desperation in here.

  • @ryansmith841
    @ryansmith841 Год назад

    I like the new art style!

  • @dimitrijestanisic3478
    @dimitrijestanisic3478 Год назад

    Hey new character design nice!

  • @minecraftandduh3795
    @minecraftandduh3795 Год назад

    I love the new animation style

  • @nasaf1sh
    @nasaf1sh Год назад

    omg new jake drawing

  • @fernvines
    @fernvines Год назад +1

    1:01 There's a poster but the mist stopping from seeing what it is
    (But Percy slays medusa in the lighting thief and there aren't any movies)

  • @Eileeleedon
    @Eileeleedon Год назад +2

    Despite Medusa's origins may or may not be, I do love that she's now seen as a symbol for survivors of SA. It's super important that victims of crimes like that have something positive to unite them and give them strength.