I have a 5.0 Mustang and if I was buying an F-150 it'd be a tough choice. Love the V8 sound but love Ecoboost torque just as much. Solution is 5.0 V8 Ecoboost twin turbo. I would have settled for even a 4.2-4.6 V8 Ecoboost if they'd make it.
@@Sully_024 For sure. I wouldn't care about turbo replacement if the factory would make a V8 Ecoboost. Probably looking at 580-600 horsepower and 700 lb-ft for a non HO version. Would have been another cool and unique addition to Ford Performance along with the Voodoo 5.2.
I would like to agree with you however the cylinder deactivation ,oil pump belt And a history of burning oil keep me from buying it. It definitely sounds amazing
@@JohnDiMartino my 18 didn’t use oil on me and my 21 5.0 definitely doesn’t. Personally I’m happy with my choice and being that I’m big on maintenance, I’m not particularly concerned with the belt driven pump. Hopefully I’m correct
@@JohnDiMartino what exactly scared you about engine burning oil? It’s not like you’re gonna be so low that your low oil light comes on before an oil change. Even my 5.0 after 7500 miles wasn’t even low enough that I’d need to add oil. And all engines burn some amount of oil. Perfectly normal and by design. As for the oil pump belt, it’s stronger than previous gen oil pumps. That was the weak spot when and only when adding power (boost).
@@Cooldibs Regardless of what a manufacturer says, it's not normal for an engine to burn a "measurable" amount of oil between oil changes. Problem is that once an engine starts burning oil it never fixes itself. It always gets worse. Some f150's did run out of oil and cause engine damage. It was a real problem. Hopefully they fixed it.
I tow in the mountains so I always get the 3.5 Ecoboost. With about 6k pound trailer and pickup full of people and gear I can go up the mountain as fast as I want with power to spare for passing. And I get up to 22 mpg when empty.
I don't tow in the mountains so I'll go for the one I think will last the longest...which IMO is a 2015-2017 5.0/6speed. I just have to wait for them to get old enough to be affordable for us workers in construction who actually need trucks for work. I will be replacing a 2005 Silverado that was $27,000 new with most options.
I love all the F-150s. The 2.7 is a turbo 6 cylinder. So, it does just fine for most jobs. Chevy's base engine is a 2.7 4 cylinder! Can you believe it? What a POS. As a matter of fact, all the Chevy-GM engines are garbage; cylinder deactivation and all that not for me. No wonder Ben did a segment saying that Chevy is still behind Ford in sales. Even if they selling a few more because they keep cutting standard features and lowering prices. Mary Barra screwed that company up so bad, the whole operation will be in chapter 11 before you know it. First On Race Day is the only ways to get a quality product.
I have the 3.5. So I’m partial to it. However, I tow a lot. I’ve towed with a 2.7, a 5.0 and my 3.5. This is why I purchased the 3.5. It’s incredible when towing. I get 19 mi. per gallon. It drastically drops when towing. I’d buy the 3.5 again if I needed one tomorrow.
Just got a 5.0 tremor. All I can say is I absolutely love that truck. Is the most fun I’ve had driving a vehicle. Excited to take it off road and see what it can do. Great videos as always, helped me make my choice
Indeed. I'd be tied for first on the 3.5 Eco and 5.0 too and it's great that Ford gives so many choices. The 2.7 Ecoboost would be tempting though cause it's less expensive and built stronger with CGI block.
It's fantastic Ford gives all these engine options. Also the hybrid because why not. It really puts them ahead of everyone else because each person has different requirements.
@@jaysmith179 18-20 5.0 F150 have major oil consumption and cam phaser issues. You would also have fun when it needs an engine that is on backorder lol. 2.7 is more reliable.
@@jaysmith179 Can't beat the 5.0 sound and can be killer with a supercharger. With that being said, the 2.7 will last just as long and makes better torque.
Everyone says 5.0 because it is cooler on the Internet. But in reality after owning both, the 3.5 is significantly better than the 50. I will keep the 5.0 in my mustangs, what’s the 3.5 pulls better than anything I’ve ever owned in any truck other than a diesel. Definitely doesn’t sound as good, but since I’ve gotten older, I care less about sound and more about the lack of it. 3.5 is silent and it’s just a isolated cocoon, whereas the 5.0 is a rambunctious great sounding motor. Both great motors, but 3.5 for me.
I love my powerboost. You’re right about it being a bit quirky. If you drive in sport mode it’s much more responsive, and very quick! Even in normal mode it’s very fast and I get about 21-22 mpg around town with 91 octane, 18-19 with 87 octane. 24 on the Highway. A big plus is you can use it as a generator. 👍🏼
@@glennevans2566 that's weird cause I have a 4cyl Ecoboost and I've seen hardly any difference between 93 premium and 88 E-15 I've been using after trialing 93 for a couple thousand miles. I generally stay below 4k rpm so I don't notice a power difference either.
@@mr.c.3760 That was mixed. At about 16,000 miles I am getting 19 to 21 consistently (calculated). The truck says I got 20.9 over the last 3,500 miles, but the calculator says more like 20. I sport mode a little, so there is that (I did that more early on but still do it occasionally and I've never used eco mode). The best mpg is the in-betweens. I got about 22 (calculated) when driving on 2-lane roads in the mountains from here to Denver where I was driving less than 65 mph. The worst is in central NM and west TX when driving in the wind and driving fast (16-19).
I sell them 2.7L is perfect for daily driving and mpg but doesn't have the brute pulling power of the 3.5L and 3.5L is the crown jewl it makes every vehicle that has it feel fast, 5.0 if you're a V8 nostalgic,and 3.3L if you're looking for a light duty work or delivery truck. Finally, powerboost if you love your local Ford service center.
Traded in a 2018 with the 3.3 for a 2022 with the 2.7 EcoBoost. Think the 3.3 is a good engine but the 2.7 has a lot more power and gets better gas mileage.
I picked the 5.0 for my 2023 F150 and I feel that it was the right choice for me. If I lived in the mountains or did a bunch of towing, I likely would have opted for the EcoBoost.
@Andres casas Naturally aspirated engines lose a significant amount of horsepower at higher elevations. Forced induction engines compress the air in the intake, resulting in minimal horsepower loss.
I watched a video where 8 Ford mechanics were asked which engine they would choose. 7 of the 8 chose the V8 and one chose the 2.7 eco boost. None chose the 3.5. That says something about the reliability of the 3.5. Getty Adventures did a tow test between the 3.5 eco boost and the 5.0. The 3.5 was a bit quicker but the 5.0 got significantly better fuel economy. The only drawback to the 5.0 is you had to rev the engine more to get to the meat of the power curve which is typical of normally aspirated overhead cam engines. I would choose the 5.0 for its simplicity and long term reliability. Turbos will fail eventually and that’s an expensive repair. Tow ratings aside, if you’re towing more than say 7000# regularly, you really need a 3/4 ton or better truck. It can be a bit disconcerting when the tail starts wagging the dog!
You are talking about the Town and Country video. I would not base a lot off of that. The truth is it that the 3rd gen 3.5 is as reliable or more than the current 5.0L. The 5L is not the same motors that was in cars and trucks 30 years ago. It has active fuel management, which I personally hate. Do I hear of catastrophic failures, no. Mostly water pump, oil consumption issues. The 3.5L has only improved. Phasers were fixed, they went to bullet proof timing chains, tensioner, different block/heads. EGR system and upgraded fuel pressure rail. There are no weak points on the 3.5L. It is a almost bullet proof motor.
You are talking about the Town and Country video. I would not base a lot off of that. The truth is it that the 3rd gen 3.5 is as reliable or more than the current 5.0L. The 5L is not the same motors that was in cars and trucks 30 years ago. It has active fuel management, which I personally hate. Do I hear of catastrophic failures, no. Mostly water pump, oil consumption issues. The 3.5L has only improved. Phasers were fixed, they went to bullet proof timing chains, tensioner, different block/heads. EGR system and upgraded fuel pressure rail. There are no weak points on the 3.5L. It is a almost bullet proof motor. Turbos outlast most people owning these trucks. That is a misconception. Rebuilding turbos is not even that big of a deal. Any motor will require repairs 200k plus.
Easy pick for me. The 5.0 V8 for the sound alone. In a 4×2 regular cab. Don't plan on off roading. Regular bed. Not going to haul much. Don't need or want four doors on a pickup truck. Not going to tow much. I want just a good solid full size Ford F-150 that won't bankrupt me. It's bad enough these pickup trucks are almost as luxurious as my trusted old Mercury Grand Marquis LS Premium. I want the cheapest, lightest F-150 body with the 5.0. That's it. I wish they still offered manual transmissions.
just curious but why get a truck if you aren't going off roading, don't need the 4x4, don't need the bed and won't be towing. I'd think to just get a SUV if all you need is a driver. Definitely agree on the manuals it's tragic they don't offer them anymore
3.5 all day everyday! Powerful and fast. Tune and bolt on friendly. Had a 2015 and now a 2021 with no regrets.The 10 speed with the 3.5 is really good.
Very nice though I do have one question? If the Ecoboost is so good then how come Ford used the 6.8L and 7.3L Godzilla V8s in the Super Duty as base gas engines and not the 3.5L Ecoboost V6?
@brettyoung1659 Since Ford wants all of they're cars to go global with the EcoBoost crap, also how come the Mustang GT came with the 5.0L Coyote V8 and the base Mustang came with the 2.3L EcoBoost 4 cylinder and not the 2.7L EcoBoost V6 nor 3.5L EcoBoost V6 in the Mustang GT?
@@CJColvin And the Raptor. Sad to say but the V8 is a dying breed. I had a Mustang with the 5.0 and absolutely loved it. now and need a truck. I haul two 4 wheelers and a go kart every once in a while. and when I’m not doing that I like hauling ass. This is what does it for me.
I had the 2.7 and I thought that was powerful, this time around it was hard to find a vehicle with the 2.7 nicely equipped. I opted for the 3.5 and wow! I am blown away by the power. Both are amazing engines.
@@jaysmith179 You don’t have to remove the cab to replace the turbo. I’m a Ford tech at a dealership. I replaced turbos on these engines at the Didn’t remove the cab on either the 2.7 or the 3.5. The repair manual doesn’t call for it.
I’ve actually owned a 3.5 ecoboost, a 5.0 Coyote and now I have the Powerboost. All are good powertrains. The 5.0 sounds incredible but it struggled pulling my enclosed trailer on the highway. It really needs to rev up high to get at the torque. The 3.5 ecoboost is amazing at towing. But doesn’t sound as cool. The powerboost has been the best combo for me. Really good city MPG unladen. And it’s a beast towing.
Had the 2.7 in two different f150s with the 10 speed and a 5.0 with the 6 speed. I really like both engines for different reasons but for long term I would go with the 5.0 with the 10 speed. Great engine and great sound! They are all good engines but I wouldn't really trust the turbos as much long term.
I just bought a new F150. I was set on the 3.5 Turbo..couldn't agree on a price. I did not want the 5.0, but they had 2 with decent rebates and a better price. Drove it and was pleasantly surprised. I'm glad I did get the 5.0. It's a proven engine.
I own a 2020 F150 with the 5.0 and I love it! The real world gas mileage for mine is around 17 to 17.5 combined and 21 to 21.5 on the highway. The best I’ve seen on the highway is 23. And it pulls a trailer very well.
I have a 2012 5.0 Coyote in my F-150 .. absolutely love it .. I've built several 4.6 and carbed 5.0's in the past in my Mustangs but this Coyote is a monster ..But will say when running E-85, the fuel mileage SUCKs ...but the added HP the ethanol brings with it, is worth the price !!
I like the 2.7 from the reliability stand point, and I like the 5.0 quite a bit because its a v8 and it would be reliable if you didn't use the active cylinder deactivation.
I owned a 2019 2.7 Ecoboost, and now a 2022 3.5. I would probably go with the 2.7 if it was an option on my Tremor. It was fast, economical, and was smoother than my 3.5. The 3.5 is better for towing for sure, but the 2.7 was no slouch. As for reliability, I would guess that the 3.5s are dead last. The 3.3 will probably be most reliable. I would bet the 2.7 and 5.0 would be very close. The 2.7 was purpose built from the ground up for its job with lessons learned from the early 3.5. The 5.0 keeps getting more and more complicated. Not a mechanic, just stuff I’ve read from a bunch of arm chair mechanics like myself on the forums.
The 3.5 has had all the bugs worked out. Some years had cam phaser issues, which was corrected in 2021. Some 2.7’s had oil leaking issues, but are overall a good design, with no exhaust manifold’s to go bad. The 5.0 has been changed a few times, some years had oil consumption issues, now resolved. It will be interesting to see if the new cylinder cut off technology will affect long term reliability.
@@stang-rv4pb That’s the primary reason I was willing to go 3.5. I think it has a bad rap from some, but they have had a lot of time to fine-tune the issues it previously had. I think too many look at the 5.0 and think “simple V8,” but I’m not so sure it’s like that anymore.
Out of the brand new ones if they're taken care of the exact same way a 5.0 would most likely last the longest. Most of the timing chain and phaser issues were fixed on the 3.5. I've heard even the 2.7s are starting to have the issues as well. Dissapintment that they haven't figured it out fully on these engines.
@@jaysmith179Not true, I had an exhaust manifold stud break on my 2014 3.5 ecoboost. I replaced the manifold, and coolant fittings on the turbo, through the fender wall, in my backyard. Dealer’s will often remove the cab, because it is only a 45 minute job to remove if properly equipped, allowing easy access to everything.
Considering that I have 2.7 eco boost engine, I drive it hard and still get 21.0 mpg in the northeast. A part of me wishes I spent the extra money on the 5.0 v8, but it’s for aesthetics only(the sound). I’m very happy with the power train I have.
Looking for an F150 right now, with the 5.0. Your findings confirmed my logic that the 5.0 is the best choice for me. (My reference is I am in my 50s and an old school gear head)
I picked the 2018 F-150 with 3.5 L. Eco bust engine and pulled an 8,000 lb trailer. I special ordered it in 2018. Other than gas mileage the engine performance was no different with or without the trailer. I am very happy with my F-150.
Just bought a 2020 F150 super crew short bed two wheel dr Sport with the 302A trim. It has the 2.7. With 23,956 miles. One owner always taken to the dealership for maintenance. I was a little skeptical about the 2.7. But, for what I do, it's just fine. 22 in the city, 26 on the highway. Can't beat it.
As a Ford person, I think 5.0 is not the same like it was. Dual injection, plasma welded cylinder walls, cylinder deactivation... Too much tech. Gen 2 is my favorite. Also really like the 2.7 and the 3.5. So in the F-150, it is either 3.5 or 2.7 depending on use case.
I’ve got the 3.5 ecoboost, I likes it, sitting right around 24 mpg on mostly highway mileage at the moment. I’m coming off of a 5.6 liter V8 Nissan Titan, the 3.5 TT feels pretty organic in terms of power delivery even when I romp the throttle. I’ve owned other turbo cars and this ecoboost engine is nice and linear in terms of power delivery. Right now I’m sitting right around 24mpg because I did some highway miles on the way home from work. I do have to admit, even in town it isn’t too bad, there aren’t lights every 2 miles. I plan on bumping the power some, I know it’s capable of a few more ponies without digging too deep.
They’re all very good engines. I have a 2.7 snd love it but let’s be honest here, the naturally aspirated engines. 3.3, and especially the 5.0 have less garbage on them and would be my choice!
My 21 has the 2.7 and my 19 had a 5.0, I personally like the 2.7, feels like it still has power and gets good mpg, I got 25+ thru the Carolina’s on a road trip but driving around town in winter on more aggressive tires is 16.3mpg. The maintenance cost was higher on the 5.0 due to the amount of oil it took but I do miss the rumble of the v8. However after they handed the active fuel management is what steered me away. I would’ve loved the powerboost but couldn’t justify the cost of almost $4,500 option vs $1,200 for the 2.7
We have two 3.3 v6 work trucks and they are lethargic to be optimistic, my truck is a 2.7 and it’s really stupid impressive, and no issues @35k miles. Coworker and I both had 3.5ebs Gen. 1 and Gen. 3 they were alright but had issues with IC and phasers, but def a monster. Another coworker has a 5.0 and it threw a timing chain and destroyed the motor… 2.7 has forged internals. They overbuilt it and it’s probably the most reliable of the optional motors. The 3.3 might be cheap… and that’s about all it is.
3.5 is the easy choice. Best power and MPG. 5.0 is what older folks will buy and not realize that with cylinder deactivation and all the other EPA nonsense the 5.0 simplicity is ruined. Ive seen too many 5.7 hemis and 5.3GM with ruined top ends to ever buy a vehicle with cylinder deactivation.
I love the fact you have so little traffic to do this, where I live you would have a 2-hour video testing these. I am looking at the 3.5 eco or powerboost, my dad has had one since 2016 with zero issues.
As a previous 2.7 owner, it left alot to be desired. And it's not performing significantly better than the 5.0 in fuel economy. I don't get the need for all three engines.
@@malcolmn.5222 you must be in the minority. The overwhelming majority of 2.7EB owners are in love with the thing. What did you feel like its shortcomings were? Did you have the 10 speed too or an older one?
Nothing new, get you a Buick grand national. Turbo V6 that was one of the fastest things of its time. NASCAR used V6s a short time back in the 80’s. They went back to the V8s because the V6s weren’t lasting the whole race!
I suppose the answer will vary, depending on who you ask. An engineer will extoll the virtues of the eco boost. A mechanic who’s lively hood revolves around repairing trucks might have a mixed answer such as “are you asking me which I would buy to drive my family in, or which do I hope the sales staff moves more of….so I can feed my family?” A person who buys trucks to keep for a decade will most likely pick the engine that is the most bullet proof. Someone who only leases a truck, and it never goes out of warranty may prefer something different than the previous example. Someone who wants a grocery getter may prefer the V6, while someone who tows will want the 5 oh. Personally, after having towed with the eco boost, I wouldn’t touch one of those with a ten foot pole. The company I work for has moved to exclusively buying V8s, and nothing with cylinder deactivation. The repair bills were cutting into the operating budget for the small fleet (not to mention people were having to use personal vehicles because the work trucks were constantly in the shop).
The main reason I wouldn't get the 5.0 coyote these days is the cylinder deactivation. And with ecoboosts it's always eco or boost depending on how you're driving.
There is nothing wrong with cylinder deactivation. If high performance sports cars like the camaro, challenger, corvette can have cylinder deactivation than a f150 is more than capable of having it.
I would definitely go for the powerboost. All that HP and torque and the coolest feature being the 7.2 kw inverter is just calling my name i love it . Mpg is a cool little bonus but that inverter is just ...i want it badly
is it though? he's running cold engines down a 1/2 mile section of interstate, punching it in 4th gear and saying "oh yeah this is fast". no dyno, no christmas tree, not even a stopwatch. guess that makes sense given so many comments are about how the sound of the V8 makes some of these guys get a chubby. welcome to America, the antithesis of critical thinking.
5.0 everyday. Got a 2011 f150 with the 5.0 at 144k miles still runs great. Not quite as fast as the new ones but certainly better sounding and feeling and more reliable.
Definitely gonna be more consistent.. with fuel mileage.. I had a 2011 GMC Sierra with the 6.0 and it got about 12mpg empty... And about 11 hauling stuff
I have a 21 5.0 with 3.73 gears. Gas milage isn’t terrible, and it takes off if I want to. Couldn’t be happier with it. If you’re on the fence - get the Coyote
After driving hundreds of these and selling Fords, The 2.7L is really the best motor for 90% of buyers. It offers superior low end torque and gets great fuel economy. It is more than adequate. It use a graphite composite block. Hardly see them in the shop for repairs. Having said that, I like the 3rd gen 3.5L. Ford has really made it a almost bullet proof motor. Upgraded block, heads, EGR system and higher fuel rail pressure, upgraded turbos, bulletproof timing chain/tensioner. The phasers were also updated and fixed.
3.3, cheap reliable, good enough with the 10 speed. the power numbers dont tell the whole story. Faster than the older 5.4 trucks and can certainly out-last the 3v models. If it werent for the reliability issues the 3.0 diesel (which didnt make an appearence here sadly)
*The ecoboost engines have small turbos so at redline they are running out of breath as they begin to chocke* However the 1500 rpm to 4000 rpm torque (power) absolutely destroys the NA V8 engines. And when towing, the 5.0 V8 will need to downshift and rev where the 3.5 ecoboost will just pull hard at 3000 rpms etc. My 3.5 ecoboost was pulling mountain grades at 1900 rpms when not towing at 72 mph. Not even needing to drop a single gear.
I went with the 3.3, plenty of power to pull the camper and what I need it for, and doesnt suck gas on normal drives like the 5.0. My buddy had the 2.7 but his turbos went out, twice.
My average is 22 around town on my powerboost. If I stomped it like you did I would get shitty mileage also. But I don’t. My 5.0 that I also own gets shitty mileage. But its reliability is the reason I won’t trade it in. That truck will eventually be my daughters first truck. I love my powerboost and will buy it again. I find all your videos informative. Subjective but informative. Funny how all your videos never mentioned the map on the door panels of old Detroit. Easter egg. My 5.0 is a 14 f150 supercab. And my powerboost is a 23 lariat. Love the powerboost using the 373 gear and yet still getting best overall fuel economy. As long as your not drag racing down the interstate.
2017 F-150 2.7L with a hair under 80k. Only had one issue, the door handle froze. Dealership fixed it for free and even gave me a loaner while they did the work.
Pretty much feel the same. I love the torque of the ecoboost but honestly the day to day and even towing when not at elevation is pretty similar. The 5.0 was definitely more fun to drive because it was so fun to rev out and listen to that V8 scream to 7500 rpm. Plus the ecoboost was in the shop for a week or more for a full timing job and phasers after 30k miles. My 5.0 had no issues the time I owned it. Both engines are a good choice for most people. Though some will say the 2.7l but I drove one and I didn't like it. The 5.0 wasn't an option in the raptor so I had no choice.
I had 11 5.0L 375k no issues now a 18 5.0L no issues at 70k i dont tow or ever will so to me was reliability and the coyote so far so good i keep my trucks for more then 8 years or till i get bored but v6 with turbos ill pass
I don't know why people saying the 5.0 is for reliability. The only difference between the 5.0 and 3.5 is the turbos. Other than that they are both as complicated as the other and the 3.5 doesn't have cylinder deactivation. Turbos aren't a reliability issue anymore. both the 3.5 and 5.0 have cam phasor issues. Since the updates in 2018 the 3.5 has only had the cam phasor issues and they were fixed under warranty. I currently have a 2019 3.5 and it's a runner. I have 80k miles with the cam phasor issue that got taken care of in the 20's under warranty. No other work done to the engine besides routine maintenance. I think a lot of the problems people have with the 3.5 is maintenance related. They need clean oil, don't go by the oil life meter, just change it out at 5k miles no matter what. The other repair was a transmission rebuild at 80k under warranty, known issue and both engines used the same transmission. That said I got 5 years left with this one then I will get my retirement truck. I would probably go with the 2.7. Its a workhorse that I can find little to nothing negative about. I am not going to be towing anything and don't need a hotrod.
I have the 3.5 Eco, I love the acc. I hate the 5.0 for off the line acc. but like it for all the reliability, I do not like the cam phasers going 3 times., and at 77.6 miles or 125 km the turbos are starting to lag. I have to say my next choice will be the 5.0 even though it is slower off the start.
I love my 2016 f150 with the little 2.7 ecoboost 110k and still going strong 💪🏼 Now if I could afford a brand new truck again. I am pretty sure I would get the 5.0
I had a 5.0 in a '21 and recently traded for a '24 with a 3.5. I was initially going to get a 5.0 with the 3.73 rear (my '21 had a 3.31) but they are kind of hard to find in that configuration. The 5.0 definitely gives me more warm and fuzzies as far as reliability, it's a great engine, but the tuning and CD made the driving experience terrible from my experience. The combination of cylinder deactivation coming on and off, the 10 speed trans trying to find a gear, and the engine tuning it would constantly just have no throttle response for a second or two when going from light to medium throttle or pulling away from a stop sign or whatever. I think Ford spends a lot more time perfecting the 3.5/10 speed combo as it's the "premium" engine choice. The power delivery from the 3.5 is SO much better than the 5.0 the way they have them tuned. I did get an extended powertrain warranty with the 3.5 though. From everything I've seen/read/heard from this engine being out for nearing 15 years now, is if you keep the oil clean they seem to last. I will definitely miss having a v8 but I think Ford does a better job with the 3.5. If the 5.0 was completely unbridled with a manual trans and no cylinder deactivation like in a mustang I'm sure it would be an amazing engine to have.
Quite a bit of inventory. Their lot is going to get even more crowded. Rebates and Incentives have started. Even more to come as inventory increases. Be patient for your best deal. Cheers.
@@BenHardyCars We were speaking more of the nationwide inventory dilemma. Stay tuned for more incentives Ben, they will arrive soon. Great video by the way. Cheers.
Easily the 3.5 as it's most flexible. However, I can why the 5.0 is tempting with great sound and turbos can get problematic as you get close to 100,000 miles.
I have a 2014 5L then bought 2018 3.5L traded 18 for 2020 7.3L but still have 5L. 3.5L kept throwing check engine lights when I towed due to the turbos. 5L tows every time no issues. 🤷♂️
I have the 3.5 in a f150 and the 5.0 in a mustang. Both are great. Its nice that Ford gives us the options to configure your vehicle the way you want.
I have a 5.0 Mustang and if I was buying an F-150 it'd be a tough choice. Love the V8 sound but love Ecoboost torque just as much. Solution is 5.0 V8 Ecoboost twin turbo. I would have settled for even a 4.2-4.6 V8 Ecoboost if they'd make it.
@@302Mustang13a 4.6 4v eco boost would be fucking dope
@@Sully_024 For sure. I wouldn't care about turbo replacement if the factory would make a V8 Ecoboost. Probably looking at 580-600 horsepower and 700 lb-ft for a non HO version. Would have been another cool and unique addition to Ford Performance along with the Voodoo 5.2.
2.7 for me i been ford tech for 39 years and i never see them come in for anything major and its our most sold engine in f150s..
2.7 twin turbo?
5.0 is what I'd go with.
I would like to agree with you however the cylinder deactivation ,oil pump belt And a history of burning oil keep me from buying it. It definitely sounds amazing
@@JohnDiMartino my 18 didn’t use oil on me and my 21 5.0 definitely doesn’t. Personally I’m happy with my choice and being that I’m big on maintenance, I’m not particularly concerned with the belt driven pump. Hopefully I’m correct
@@JohnDiMartino what exactly scared you about engine burning oil? It’s not like you’re gonna be so low that your low oil light comes on before an oil change. Even my 5.0 after 7500 miles wasn’t even low enough that I’d need to add oil. And all engines burn some amount of oil. Perfectly normal and by design.
As for the oil pump belt, it’s stronger than previous gen oil pumps. That was the weak spot when and only when adding power (boost).
@@Cooldibs
Regardless of what a manufacturer says, it's not normal for an engine to burn a "measurable" amount of oil between oil changes. Problem is that once an engine starts burning oil it never fixes itself. It always gets worse. Some f150's did run out of oil and cause engine damage. It was a real problem. Hopefully they fixed it.
As of now my 2023 5.0 does not burn oil. The CD is no issue to me because I’m happy with the stock exhaust so I hear no changes.
I tow 3 tons with my 3.3 easy. When im empty puttering on the freeway, my mpg is just shy of 30. Love the 3.3
5.0 Coyote for me in a half ton. One of the better engines Ford has made in recent history
yup
I have the coyote in my 2019 F150 sport and it performs better than other comparable 8’s.
Really? Mine last F150 V8 had the dreaded P2006 runner control fault, there's not a good fix! My new truck is the V6 twin turbo, much better engine.
My 5.0 gave out at 180k
I tow in the mountains so I always get the 3.5 Ecoboost. With about 6k pound trailer and pickup full of people and gear I can go up the mountain as fast as I want with power to spare for passing. And I get up to 22 mpg when empty.
I don't tow in the mountains so I'll go for the one I think will last the longest...which IMO is a 2015-2017 5.0/6speed. I just have to wait for them to get old enough to be affordable for us workers in construction who actually need trucks for work. I will be replacing a 2005 Silverado that was $27,000 new with most options.
I love all the F-150s. The 2.7 is a turbo 6 cylinder. So, it does just fine for most jobs. Chevy's base engine is a 2.7 4 cylinder! Can you believe it? What a POS. As a matter of fact, all the Chevy-GM engines are garbage; cylinder deactivation and all that not for me. No wonder Ben did a segment saying that Chevy is still behind Ford in sales. Even if they selling a few more because they keep cutting standard features and lowering prices. Mary Barra screwed that company up so bad, the whole operation will be in chapter 11 before you know it. First On Race Day is the only ways to get a quality product.
Should of bought the V8. Have fun when the turbo starts to leak. Have to remove the cab off the frame to service.
@@jaysmith179 been driving a 3.5 Ecoboost since 2012. Zero issues with anyone of the motors.
@@jaysmith179 no, you don’t have to remove the cab to service the turbo.
I have the 3.5. So I’m partial to it. However, I tow a lot. I’ve towed with a 2.7, a 5.0 and my 3.5. This is why I purchased the 3.5. It’s incredible when towing. I get 19 mi. per gallon. It drastically drops when towing. I’d buy the 3.5 again if I needed one tomorrow.
Just got a 5.0 tremor. All I can say is I absolutely love that truck. Is the most fun I’ve had driving a vehicle. Excited to take it off road and see what it can do. Great videos as always, helped me make my choice
What model year is it?
Lucky you! Congratulations! I love seeing those on the road.
@Bobs Black most of these trucks drive as smooth as cars. I love suv's and trucks. Mainly for the ride height, ability to tow and haul.
5.0 if I plan on keeping it past 100k miles and doing my own maintenance on it.
Shows how little you know
@@Dccole3214 okay😂 whatever you want to think.
@@Dccole3214 plethora of 5.0’s past 200k at this point
If you change the oil often the 2nd gen 2.7 ecoboost will probably outlast the 2021 or newer 5.0 V8.
@@169abr same with ecoboosts
Here we go again,just get whatever suits your needs.Its good to have a variety in engine choices imo
Indeed. I'd be tied for first on the 3.5 Eco and 5.0 too and it's great that Ford gives so many choices. The 2.7 Ecoboost would be tempting though cause it's less expensive and built stronger with CGI block.
It's fantastic Ford gives all these engine options. Also the hybrid because why not. It really puts them ahead of everyone else because each person has different requirements.
So far the little 2.7 EcoBoost has been great. Plenty of power and great gas mileage!
Should of bought the V8. Have fun when the turbo starts to leak. Have to remove the cab off the frame to service.
@@jaysmith179 18-20 5.0 F150 have major oil consumption and cam phaser issues. You would also have fun when it needs an engine that is on backorder lol. 2.7 is more reliable.
The 2.7 is a great engine!
My 17 fusion sport got that same engine and it’s AWD, straight sleeper
@@jaysmith179 Can't beat the 5.0 sound and can be killer with a supercharger. With that being said, the 2.7 will last just as long and makes better torque.
Everyone says 5.0 because it is cooler on the Internet. But in reality after owning both, the 3.5 is significantly better than the 50. I will keep the 5.0 in my mustangs, what’s the 3.5 pulls better than anything I’ve ever owned in any truck other than a diesel. Definitely doesn’t sound as good, but since I’ve gotten older, I care less about sound and more about the lack of it. 3.5 is silent and it’s just a isolated cocoon, whereas the 5.0 is a rambunctious great sounding motor. Both great motors, but 3.5 for me.
I went with the 5.0, mainly for long term reliability and simplicity, but it also because it sounds sooooooo much better 😍😍.
Can't argue with that and I fully agree cause the 5.0 is one of the better sounding V8s.
Me too, I would go with V8.
Said it best
@@gplez91 Yep, V8 or nothing
I love my powerboost. You’re right about it being a bit quirky. If you drive in sport mode it’s much more responsive, and very quick! Even in normal mode it’s very fast and I get about 21-22 mpg around town with 91 octane, 18-19 with 87 octane. 24 on the Highway. A big plus is you can use it as a generator. 👍🏼
I'm surprised you don't get better mpgs around town. The 24 mpg city is supposed to be the reason to get one for better mpgs around town.
@@302Mustang13 I was surprised as well. I switched to premium gas (91octane) and now I’m getting about 24 miles per gallon. 👍🏼
@@glennevans2566 that's weird cause I have a 4cyl Ecoboost and I've seen hardly any difference between 93 premium and 88 E-15 I've been using after trialing 93 for a couple thousand miles. I generally stay below 4k rpm so I don't notice a power difference either.
I didn’t realize that Ford recommended premium gas for the powerboost. I was very surprised that it made that much difference.
@@glennevans2566 mine recommendations premium too but required is minimum of 87. The keyword would be required premium. It doesn't.
I just picked up my 5.0 Tremor today🙂. I'm getting 16mpg after 50 miles of mixed driving. Peace, Love!!
Congratulations brother
16 highway or city?
@@mr.c.3760 That was mixed. At about 16,000 miles I am getting 19 to 21 consistently (calculated). The truck says I got 20.9 over the last 3,500 miles, but the calculator says more like 20. I sport mode a little, so there is that (I did that more early on but still do it occasionally and I've never used eco mode). The best mpg is the in-betweens. I got about 22 (calculated) when driving on 2-lane roads in the mountains from here to Denver where I was driving less than 65 mph. The worst is in central NM and west TX when driving in the wind and driving fast (16-19).
Only the V8 for me. The more complicated something gets, the less reliable it becomes. There's more things to go wrong.
I sell them 2.7L is perfect for daily driving and mpg but doesn't have the brute pulling power of the 3.5L and 3.5L is the crown jewl it makes every vehicle that has it feel fast, 5.0 if you're a V8 nostalgic,and 3.3L if you're looking for a light duty work or delivery truck. Finally, powerboost if you love your local Ford service center.
I would say 3.3l for now. There hasn't been any timing chain issues so far. Plus there's more room to work on them.
Traded in a 2018 with the 3.3 for a 2022 with the 2.7 EcoBoost.
Think the 3.3 is a good engine but the 2.7 has a lot more power and gets better gas mileage.
Should of bought the V8. Have fun when the turbo starts to leak. Have to remove the cab off the frame to service.
@@jaysmith179The 3.3 is naturally aspirated
@@jaysmith179 I don’t remove the cab to service the turbos on either engine.
I picked the 5.0 for my 2023 F150 and I feel that it was the right choice for me. If I lived in the mountains or did a bunch of towing, I likely would have opted for the EcoBoost.
Why is the ecoboost better for mountains
@Andres casas Naturally aspirated engines lose a significant amount of horsepower at higher elevations. Forced induction engines compress the air in the intake, resulting in minimal horsepower loss.
To bad they don't have an ecoboost 5.0
@@kevin122759 Expensive to do but it would be badass to put a Roush supercharger on the 5.0. It would be smiles per gallon though haha
@@iguardwisconsinberry8830 I know a few people that bought base F150 XL with the coyote motor and put twin turbos on them.
5.0 Coyote. Picked up an ex-military one, 2014, last month with 23000 miles. Beauty! It will outlive me!
I watched a video where 8 Ford mechanics were asked which engine they would choose. 7 of the 8 chose the V8 and one chose the 2.7 eco boost. None chose the 3.5. That says something about the reliability of the 3.5. Getty Adventures did a tow test between the 3.5 eco boost and the 5.0. The 3.5 was a bit quicker but the 5.0 got significantly better fuel economy. The only drawback to the 5.0 is you had to rev the engine more to get to the meat of the power curve which is typical of normally aspirated overhead cam engines. I would choose the 5.0 for its simplicity and long term reliability. Turbos will fail eventually and that’s an expensive repair. Tow ratings aside, if you’re towing more than say 7000# regularly, you really need a 3/4 ton or better truck. It can be a bit disconcerting when the tail starts wagging the dog!
You are talking about the Town and Country video. I would not base a lot off of that. The truth is it that the 3rd gen 3.5 is as reliable or more than the current 5.0L. The 5L is not the same motors that was in cars and trucks 30 years ago. It has active fuel management, which I personally hate. Do I hear of catastrophic failures, no. Mostly water pump, oil consumption issues. The 3.5L has only improved. Phasers were fixed, they went to bullet proof timing chains, tensioner, different block/heads. EGR system and upgraded fuel pressure rail. There are no weak points on the 3.5L. It is a almost bullet proof motor.
You are talking about the Town and Country video. I would not base a lot off of that. The truth is it that the 3rd gen 3.5 is as reliable or more than the current 5.0L. The 5L is not the same motors that was in cars and trucks 30 years ago. It has active fuel management, which I personally hate. Do I hear of catastrophic failures, no. Mostly water pump, oil consumption issues. The 3.5L has only improved. Phasers were fixed, they went to bullet proof timing chains, tensioner, different block/heads. EGR system and upgraded fuel pressure rail. There are no weak points on the 3.5L. It is a almost bullet proof motor. Turbos outlast most people owning these trucks. That is a misconception. Rebuilding turbos is not even that big of a deal. Any motor will require repairs 200k plus.
Just bought a 2016 5.0 with an exhaust installed. The sound just makes me smile leaving a stop. Coming from a 5.4 f-150 it feels very powerful too
There isn't any other powertrain that will give this joy!
Easy pick for me. The 5.0 V8 for the sound alone. In a 4×2 regular cab. Don't plan on off roading. Regular bed. Not going to haul much. Don't need or want four doors on a pickup truck. Not going to tow much. I want just a good solid full size Ford F-150 that won't bankrupt me. It's bad enough these pickup trucks are almost as luxurious as my trusted old Mercury Grand Marquis LS Premium. I want the cheapest, lightest F-150 body with the 5.0. That's it. I wish they still offered manual transmissions.
just curious but why get a truck if you aren't going off roading, don't need the 4x4, don't need the bed and won't be towing. I'd think to just get a SUV if all you need is a driver. Definitely agree on the manuals it's tragic they don't offer them anymore
3.5 all day everyday! Powerful and fast. Tune and bolt on friendly. Had a 2015 and now a 2021 with no regrets.The 10 speed with the 3.5 is really good.
Very nice though I do have one question? If the Ecoboost is so good then how come Ford used the 6.8L and 7.3L Godzilla V8s in the Super Duty as base gas engines and not the 3.5L Ecoboost V6?
Don’t know. Wonder why they put the 3.5 in the super car the Ford GT?
@brettyoung1659 Since Ford wants all of they're cars to go global with the EcoBoost crap, also how come the Mustang GT came with the 5.0L Coyote V8 and the base Mustang came with the 2.3L EcoBoost 4 cylinder and not the 2.7L EcoBoost V6 nor 3.5L EcoBoost V6 in the Mustang GT?
@@brettyoung1659 Ford knows the EcoBoost wouldn't hold up in the Ford Super Duty like the 6.8L and 7.3L Godzilla V8s would.
@@CJColvin And the Raptor. Sad to say but the V8 is a dying breed. I had a Mustang with the 5.0 and absolutely loved it. now and need a truck. I haul two 4 wheelers and a go kart every once in a while. and when I’m not doing that I like hauling ass. This is what does it for me.
Ok let me say what I think…5.0 V8 as long as they exist
Great review Ben,awesome job
I got 3.5 twin turbo and is such a powerful and a pleasure to drive every time.. unassuming great car
i had the 3.5 ecoboost and it’s been great.
I went for the 5.0 on my 2021 f150 and cero regrets. I love it
Except for the spelling of zero.
3.5 EB owner here. Love the low end torque pulls without end. I have the 36 Gal. Fuel tank and I am averaging 18 mpg. I am happy happy happy.
The question is will it outlast the 5.7L I-Force V8 in the 07-21 Toyota Tundra?
Absolutely love my 2.7, thing is a little beast.
i saw a tuning company in Ontario Canada and one in US, they got 700 ponies out of your 2.7!!!
Sounds impossible but it looked legit.
Ya its not slow at any speed before the speed limiter he's nuts lol.
I had the 2.7 and I thought that was powerful, this time around it was hard to find a vehicle with the 2.7 nicely equipped. I opted for the 3.5 and wow! I am blown away by the power. Both are amazing engines.
Should of bought the V8. Have fun when the turbo starts to leak. Have to remove the cab off the frame to service.
@@jaysmith179 193k on my 2015 3.5 that normally carries about 1000lbs of cargo. No engine issues yet. I change the oil every 5k with full synthetic.
Jay Smith is a troll.
@@jaysmith179 You don’t have to remove the cab to replace the turbo. I’m a Ford tech at a dealership. I replaced turbos on these engines at the Didn’t remove the cab on either the 2.7 or the 3.5. The repair manual doesn’t call for it.
@@jaysmith179can literally reach down and grab mine out in the wide open space left by the 2.7.
I love my powerboost. Will be getting another one in 15 months. Quickest truck I’ve ever driven and 20-28 mpg depending on how my right foot behaves.
I’ve actually owned a 3.5 ecoboost, a 5.0 Coyote and now I have the Powerboost. All are good powertrains. The 5.0 sounds incredible but it struggled pulling my enclosed trailer on the highway. It really needs to rev up high to get at the torque. The 3.5 ecoboost is amazing at towing. But doesn’t sound as cool. The powerboost has been the best combo for me. Really good city MPG unladen. And it’s a beast towing.
I’m on my second 5.0 and would still be on my first if my 2018 wasn’t totaled. I think the ecoboost is great, but I am a sucker for the v8 grunt
Had the 2.7 in two different f150s with the 10 speed and a 5.0 with the 6 speed. I really like both engines for different reasons but for long term I would go with the 5.0 with the 10 speed. Great engine and great sound! They are all good engines but I wouldn't really trust the turbos as much long term.
I just bought a new F150. I was set on the 3.5 Turbo..couldn't agree on a price. I did not want the 5.0, but they had 2 with decent rebates and a better price. Drove it and was pleasantly surprised. I'm glad I did get the 5.0. It's a proven engine.
I want the Tremor with the coyote and leather seats
I own a 2020 F150 with the 5.0 and I love it! The real world gas mileage for mine is around 17 to 17.5 combined and 21 to 21.5 on the highway. The best I’ve seen on the highway is 23. And it pulls a trailer very well.
Bought a 2019 with the 3.5. Unbelievable power. Just hope it last.
Sadly it won't lol. Best thing you can do to get the most miles out of it would be to do oil changes every 4500 miles and install an oil catch can.
@@quesokid4959this isn’t true. In 2018 they introduced a combo port/direct injection system fixing this issue
I have a 2012 5.0 Coyote in my F-150 .. absolutely love it .. I've built several 4.6 and carbed 5.0's in the past in my Mustangs but this Coyote is a monster ..But will say when running E-85, the fuel mileage SUCKs ...but the added HP the ethanol brings with it, is worth the price !!
As a 2.7 owner I can say its been awesome. Best part is when adding a "tune" it becomes a monster.
who would you recommend to go with for a tune ? I just got the 2.7 a few months back, it’s already a beast but I want to add a little bit of power
Should of bought the V8. Have fun when the turbo starts to leak. Have to remove the cab off the frame to service.
I am thinking of adding a tune to my 2.7 but I have a question. Will there be big gains from a tune without changing the exhaust system?
@@jaysmith179 what? the 2.7 is quite reliable
@@jaysmith179 The more you spout this shit, the less people believe you
As a full time auto tech, this is beyond easy, 5.0, way better long term reliability than any of the others.
Even with cylinder deactivation, do you consider it a good choice?
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@@LeunamNauj 2.7 all day..best all around engine imo
what makes you think it has better long term reliability
I like the 2.7 from the reliability stand point, and I like the 5.0 quite a bit because its a v8 and it would be reliable if you didn't use the active cylinder deactivation.
Get a Tune turn it off no brainer
I owned a 2019 2.7 Ecoboost, and now a 2022 3.5. I would probably go with the 2.7 if it was an option on my Tremor. It was fast, economical, and was smoother than my 3.5. The 3.5 is better for towing for sure, but the 2.7 was no slouch.
As for reliability, I would guess that the 3.5s are dead last. The 3.3 will probably be most reliable. I would bet the 2.7 and 5.0 would be very close. The 2.7 was purpose built from the ground up for its job with lessons learned from the early 3.5. The 5.0 keeps getting more and more complicated. Not a mechanic, just stuff I’ve read from a bunch of arm chair mechanics like myself on the forums.
The 3.5 has had all the bugs worked out. Some years had cam phaser issues, which was corrected in 2021. Some 2.7’s had oil leaking issues, but are overall a good design, with no exhaust manifold’s to go bad. The 5.0 has been changed a few times, some years had oil consumption issues, now resolved. It will be interesting to see if the new cylinder cut off technology will affect long term reliability.
@@stang-rv4pb That’s the primary reason I was willing to go 3.5. I think it has a bad rap from some, but they have had a lot of time to fine-tune the issues it previously had. I think too many look at the 5.0 and think “simple V8,” but I’m not so sure it’s like that anymore.
Out of the brand new ones if they're taken care of the exact same way a 5.0 would most likely last the longest. Most of the timing chain and phaser issues were fixed on the 3.5. I've heard even the 2.7s are starting to have the issues as well. Dissapintment that they haven't figured it out fully on these engines.
@@stang-rv4pb Should of bought the V8. Have fun when the turbo starts to leak. Have to remove the cab off the frame to service.
@@jaysmith179Not true, I had an exhaust manifold stud break on my 2014 3.5 ecoboost. I replaced the manifold, and coolant fittings on the turbo, through the fender wall, in my backyard. Dealer’s will often remove the cab, because it is only a 45 minute job to remove if properly equipped, allowing easy access to everything.
I haven't driven the powerboost or the 3.3 yet but the other 3 options are solid and all fun to drive.
Had the 3.3 and now the 2.7.
Get the 2.7!
Considering that I have 2.7 eco boost engine, I drive it hard and still get 21.0 mpg in the northeast. A part of me wishes I spent the extra money on the 5.0 v8, but it’s for aesthetics only(the sound). I’m very happy with the power train I have.
My 2.7 = 22.3 average over a three year period in northern Minnesota.
@@thomastessin1663 im pretty sure the 2.7 turbo is an extra cost compared to the 5.0
@@lonedreamer6084 2.7 is about a 1,285 charge and I believe the 5.0 is almost 2,400 charge.
i stand corrected. 5.0 is more expensive, but that 2.7 and the gas it saves! still tows great too.
Looking for an F150 right now, with the 5.0. Your findings confirmed my logic that the 5.0 is the best choice for me. (My reference is I am in my 50s and an old school gear head)
Unfortunately, there is nothing old school or simple about a Variable Camshaft Timing 5.0
True! But I am thinking raw V8 power without having to deal with a small displacement pushed to max with a turbo or two. @@Wacky-Aviation
After owning a 2.7 XLT which I love if I had to order a new truck, I would get the 5.0 lariat with max tow and the FX4 package. Longevity and sound.
2.7 would be my favorite. If they put that in the Ranger, it would still do a lot more.
*sell
Should of bought the V8. Have fun when the turbo starts to leak. Have to remove the cab off the frame to service.
@@jaysmith179 😴😴😴😴😴😴
I picked the 2018 F-150 with 3.5 L. Eco bust engine and pulled an 8,000 lb trailer. I special ordered it in 2018. Other than gas mileage the engine performance was no different with or without the trailer. I am very happy with my F-150.
Just bought a 2020 F150 super crew short bed two wheel dr Sport with the 302A trim.
It has the 2.7. With 23,956 miles.
One owner always taken to the dealership for maintenance.
I was a little skeptical about the 2.7. But, for what I do, it's just fine. 22 in the city, 26 on the highway.
Can't beat it.
As a Ford person, I think 5.0 is not the same like it was. Dual injection, plasma welded cylinder walls, cylinder deactivation... Too much tech. Gen 2 is my favorite. Also really like the 2.7 and the 3.5. So in the F-150, it is either 3.5 or 2.7 depending on use case.
5.0 all day. Don't care if the 3.5 is faster. If I planned on keeping it till the wheels fell off and want the sound of be Rollin in my 5.0
I’ve got the 3.5 ecoboost, I likes it, sitting right around 24 mpg on mostly highway mileage at the moment. I’m coming off of a 5.6 liter V8 Nissan Titan, the 3.5 TT feels pretty organic in terms of power delivery even when I romp the throttle. I’ve owned other turbo cars and this ecoboost engine is nice and linear in terms of power delivery. Right now I’m sitting right around 24mpg because I did some highway miles on the way home from work. I do have to admit, even in town it isn’t too bad, there aren’t lights every 2 miles. I plan on bumping the power some, I know it’s capable of a few more ponies without digging too deep.
The question is will it outlast the 5.6L Endurance V8 in the Nissan Titan?
I have a 2021 F150 with 2.7 and I love it ! Average fuel mileage is over 20 mpg around town and plenty of power !
5.0 imo that’s what I just got! Love the giddyup especially compared to the Hyundai I drove before it!!
They’re all very good engines. I have a 2.7 snd love it but let’s be honest here, the naturally aspirated engines. 3.3, and especially the 5.0 have less garbage on them and would be my choice!
2014 with 5.0 with 205k miles. Absolutely gets up and flies with a rev up! Love my truck
I have s 2019 F150 FX4 with a coyote 5.0 and LOVE IT !!!
5.0 is THE ONLY CHOICE !!!!
My 21 has the 2.7 and my 19 had a 5.0, I personally like the 2.7, feels like it still has power and gets good mpg, I got 25+ thru the Carolina’s on a road trip but driving around town in winter on more aggressive tires is 16.3mpg. The maintenance cost was higher on the 5.0 due to the amount of oil it took but I do miss the rumble of the v8. However after they handed the active fuel management is what steered me away. I would’ve loved the powerboost but couldn’t justify the cost of almost $4,500 option vs $1,200 for the 2.7
We have two 3.3 v6 work trucks and they are lethargic to be optimistic, my truck is a 2.7 and it’s really stupid impressive, and no issues @35k miles. Coworker and I both had 3.5ebs Gen. 1 and Gen. 3 they were alright but had issues with IC and phasers, but def a monster. Another coworker has a 5.0 and it threw a timing chain and destroyed the motor… 2.7 has forged internals. They overbuilt it and it’s probably the most reliable of the optional motors. The 3.3 might be cheap… and that’s about all it is.
Powerboost is a Monster 💪💪💪
3.5 is the easy choice. Best power and MPG. 5.0 is what older folks will buy and not realize that with cylinder deactivation and all the other EPA nonsense the 5.0 simplicity is ruined. Ive seen too many 5.7 hemis and 5.3GM with ruined top ends to ever buy a vehicle with cylinder deactivation.
I love the fact you have so little traffic to do this, where I live you would have a 2-hour video testing these. I am looking at the 3.5 eco or powerboost, my dad has had one since 2016 with zero issues.
2.7 is more than adequate and would be my choice.
As a previous 2.7 owner, it left alot to be desired. And it's not performing significantly better than the 5.0 in fuel economy. I don't get the need for all three engines.
@@malcolmn.5222 you must be in the minority. The overwhelming majority of 2.7EB owners are in love with the thing. What did you feel like its shortcomings were? Did you have the 10 speed too or an older one?
Ecoboost is a beast!! For having, such a small displacement!!
Nothing new, get you a Buick grand national. Turbo V6 that was one of the fastest things of its time. NASCAR used V6s a short time back in the 80’s. They went back to the V8s because the V6s weren’t lasting the whole race!
yeah but will it make it to a million miles like the 4.7L I-Force V8 in the Toyota Tundra with original parts?
I suppose the answer will vary, depending on who you ask. An engineer will extoll the virtues of the eco boost. A mechanic who’s lively hood revolves around repairing trucks might have a mixed answer such as “are you asking me which I would buy to drive my family in, or which do I hope the sales staff moves more of….so I can feed my family?” A person who buys trucks to keep for a decade will most likely pick the engine that is the most bullet proof. Someone who only leases a truck, and it never goes out of warranty may prefer something different than the previous example. Someone who wants a grocery getter may prefer the V6, while someone who tows will want the 5 oh.
Personally, after having towed with the eco boost, I wouldn’t touch one of those with a ten foot pole. The company I work for has moved to exclusively buying V8s, and nothing with cylinder deactivation. The repair bills were cutting into the operating budget for the small fleet (not to mention people were having to use personal vehicles because the work trucks were constantly in the shop).
5.0 with the 3.73. Plenty of power and the sound
Good review I have a 2014 f150 5.0 and I love it wouldn’t trade it.
Same here. Same year and engine. Fantastic
The main reason I wouldn't get the 5.0 coyote these days is the cylinder deactivation. And with ecoboosts it's always eco or boost depending on how you're driving.
There is a a way to permanently turn off the cylinder deactivation.
There is nothing wrong with cylinder deactivation. If high performance sports cars like the camaro, challenger, corvette can have cylinder deactivation than a f150 is more than capable of having it.
Love my 5.0 f150. 2.7 would be second because I like it in my bronco.
I would definitely go for the powerboost. All that HP and torque and the coolest feature being the 7.2 kw inverter is just calling my name i love it . Mpg is a cool little bonus but that inverter is just ...i want it badly
It’s lovely
The best comparison video for F150 shoppers. Thank you!
is it though? he's running cold engines down a 1/2 mile section of interstate, punching it in 4th gear and saying "oh yeah this is fast". no dyno, no christmas tree, not even a stopwatch. guess that makes sense given so many comments are about how the sound of the V8 makes some of these guys get a chubby. welcome to America, the antithesis of critical thinking.
5.0 everyday. Got a 2011 f150 with the 5.0 at 144k miles still runs great. Not quite as fast as the new ones but certainly better sounding and feeling and more reliable.
I think if your towing heavy loads the V8 would get better mileage. The smaller engines will have to work harder to do the same work.
Not necessarily...
Definitely gonna be more consistent.. with fuel mileage.. I had a 2011 GMC Sierra with the 6.0 and it got about 12mpg empty... And about 11 hauling stuff
I have a 21 5.0 with 3.73 gears. Gas milage isn’t terrible, and it takes off if I want to. Couldn’t be happier with it. If you’re on the fence - get the Coyote
After driving hundreds of these and selling Fords, The 2.7L is really the best motor for 90% of buyers. It offers superior low end torque and gets great fuel economy. It is more than adequate. It use a graphite composite block. Hardly see them in the shop for repairs. Having said that, I like the 3rd gen 3.5L. Ford has really made it a almost bullet proof motor. Upgraded block, heads, EGR system and higher fuel rail pressure, upgraded turbos, bulletproof timing chain/tensioner. The phasers were also updated and fixed.
I bought my first f150 from Ken Garff in AF, and several vehicles from Ken Garff in Murray. Good honest dealership
I have a 5.0L, Whipple with 3.31s. Love it!
2.7 is the best all around and more than enough for most of us.
3.3, cheap reliable, good enough with the 10 speed. the power numbers dont tell the whole story. Faster than the older 5.4 trucks and can certainly out-last the 3v models. If it werent for the reliability issues the 3.0 diesel (which didnt make an appearence here sadly)
*The ecoboost engines have small turbos so at redline they are running out of breath as they begin to chocke*
However the 1500 rpm to 4000 rpm torque (power) absolutely destroys the NA V8 engines.
And when towing, the 5.0 V8 will need to downshift and rev where the 3.5 ecoboost will just pull hard at 3000 rpms etc.
My 3.5 ecoboost was pulling mountain grades at 1900 rpms when not towing at 72 mph. Not even needing to drop a single gear.
What about the coyote vs the Hemi? Which V8 would you pick?
How are the mpg numbers so much lower than what ford says on the sticker
I went with the 3.3, plenty of power to pull the camper and what I need it for, and doesnt suck gas on normal drives like the 5.0. My buddy had the 2.7 but his turbos went out, twice.
Yeah, I just wish my 3.3 had a little more torque. Probably everybodys complaint
What model yr. Was that 2.7?
2019. And he said his turbo went out once, and it was a coolant leak that lead to cylinder problems the second time. @@zbassr2106
My average is 22 around town on my powerboost. If I stomped it like you did I would get shitty mileage also. But I don’t. My 5.0 that I also own gets shitty mileage. But its reliability is the reason I won’t trade it in. That truck will eventually be my daughters first truck. I love my powerboost and will buy it again. I find all your videos informative. Subjective but informative. Funny how all your videos never mentioned the map on the door panels of old Detroit. Easter egg. My 5.0 is a 14 f150 supercab. And my powerboost is a 23 lariat. Love the powerboost using the 373 gear and yet still getting best overall fuel economy. As long as your not drag racing down the interstate.
2017 F-150 2.7L with a hair under 80k. Only had one issue, the door handle froze. Dealership fixed it for free and even gave me a loaner while they did the work.
Give me the naturally aspirated V-8 any day. It will do whatever you ask of it and barely break a sweat doing it.
Owned my 2.7 twin turbo for 2 years and love it! In sport mode it is just as fast as the Raptor and reliable so far. Have over 111k miles.
The good ole 5.0 with 10 speed 😏
Owned both 3.5 and 5.0 currently have the 3.5. I can say my next truck will for sure be the 5.0 again.
What's the difference Im torn on which one to get
Why is that? What don’t you like about the 3.5?
3.5 is a pile!
Pretty much feel the same. I love the torque of the ecoboost but honestly the day to day and even towing when not at elevation is pretty similar. The 5.0 was definitely more fun to drive because it was so fun to rev out and listen to that V8 scream to 7500 rpm. Plus the ecoboost was in the shop for a week or more for a full timing job and phasers after 30k miles. My 5.0 had no issues the time I owned it. Both engines are a good choice for most people. Though some will say the 2.7l but I drove one and I didn't like it. The 5.0 wasn't an option in the raptor so I had no choice.
I had 11 5.0L 375k no issues now a 18 5.0L no issues at 70k i dont tow or ever will so to me was reliability and the coyote so far so good i keep my trucks for more then 8 years or till i get bored but v6 with turbos ill pass
I don't know why people saying the 5.0 is for reliability. The only difference between the 5.0 and 3.5 is the turbos. Other than that they are both as complicated as the other and the 3.5 doesn't have cylinder deactivation. Turbos aren't a reliability issue anymore. both the 3.5 and 5.0 have cam phasor issues. Since the updates in 2018 the 3.5 has only had the cam phasor issues and they were fixed under warranty. I currently have a 2019 3.5 and it's a runner. I have 80k miles with the cam phasor issue that got taken care of in the 20's under warranty. No other work done to the engine besides routine maintenance. I think a lot of the problems people have with the 3.5 is maintenance related. They need clean oil, don't go by the oil life meter, just change it out at 5k miles no matter what. The other repair was a transmission rebuild at 80k under warranty, known issue and both engines used the same transmission. That said I got 5 years left with this one then I will get my retirement truck. I would probably go with the 2.7. Its a workhorse that I can find little to nothing negative about. I am not going to be towing anything and don't need a hotrod.
3.5L ecoboost all the way.. I had my 2022 F150 for 7 months, and I have no regrets.
I have the 3.5 Eco, I love the acc. I hate the 5.0 for off the line acc. but like it for all the reliability, I do not like the cam phasers going 3 times., and at 77.6 miles or 125 km the turbos are starting to lag. I have to say my next choice will be the 5.0 even though it is slower off the start.
I also have cam phaser issues 61,000 miles . 35 eb is incredible except for the issues. Looking at 5.0 for my next truck
I love my 2016 f150 with the little 2.7 ecoboost 110k and still going strong 💪🏼 Now if I could afford a brand new truck again. I am pretty sure I would get the 5.0
Excellent review! You always have great content and I literally watch every video you post. Thanks!
I had a 5.0 in a '21 and recently traded for a '24 with a 3.5. I was initially going to get a 5.0 with the 3.73 rear (my '21 had a 3.31) but they are kind of hard to find in that configuration. The 5.0 definitely gives me more warm and fuzzies as far as reliability, it's a great engine, but the tuning and CD made the driving experience terrible from my experience. The combination of cylinder deactivation coming on and off, the 10 speed trans trying to find a gear, and the engine tuning it would constantly just have no throttle response for a second or two when going from light to medium throttle or pulling away from a stop sign or whatever. I think Ford spends a lot more time perfecting the 3.5/10 speed combo as it's the "premium" engine choice. The power delivery from the 3.5 is SO much better than the 5.0 the way they have them tuned. I did get an extended powertrain warranty with the 3.5 though. From everything I've seen/read/heard from this engine being out for nearing 15 years now, is if you keep the oil clean they seem to last. I will definitely miss having a v8 but I think Ford does a better job with the 3.5. If the 5.0 was completely unbridled with a manual trans and no cylinder deactivation like in a mustang I'm sure it would be an amazing engine to have.
Quite a bit of inventory. Their lot is going to get even more crowded. Rebates and Incentives have started. Even more to come as inventory increases. Be patient for your best deal. Cheers.
Most of it is used cars, because they get a lot of trade ins and buy a lot of used cars.
@@BenHardyCars We were speaking more of the nationwide inventory dilemma. Stay tuned for more incentives Ben, they will arrive soon. Great video by the way. Cheers.
Easily the 3.5 as it's most flexible. However, I can why the 5.0 is tempting with great sound and turbos can get problematic as you get close to 100,000 miles.
I have a 2014 5L then bought 2018 3.5L traded 18 for 2020 7.3L but still have 5L. 3.5L kept throwing check engine lights when I towed due to the turbos. 5L tows every time no issues. 🤷♂️
Love these comparisons