Frsky Tandem X20 / X20S Radio - TEAR DOWN
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- Опубликовано: 10 июл 2024
- A Detailed look at the internals of Frsky's flagship radio :)
Link to it: www.horusrc.com/en/new-frsky-...
at Banggood: bit.ly/3iJLaxg
Specifications:
user interface: propetairy EthOS
firmware version: 1.0.9
gymbal type: HAL CNC allu
momentairy switches: 3
2 position switches: 1
3 position switches: 6
knobs: 2
(flap) sliders: yes
receiver(s) included: nope
packaging: 10 / 10
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Frsky Tandem X20: bit.ly/3iJLaxg
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+ ToolCraft ST-100D soldering station
+ Steinel Gluematic 3002 hotglue gun
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A Detailed look at the internals of Frsky's flagship radio :)
Link to it: www.horusrc.com/en/new-frsky-tandem-x20s-transmitter-with-built-in-900m-2-4g-dual-band-internal-rf-module.html
at Banggood: bit.ly/3iJLaxg
Specifications:
user interface: propetairy EthOS
firmware version: 1.0.9
gymbal type: HAL CNC allu
momentairy switches: 3
2 position switches: 1
3 position switches: 6
knobs: 2
(flap) sliders: yes
receiver(s) included: nope
packaging: 10 / 10
Nice essambley video,thanks a lot🙏😊
A little tipp: use isolation-tabe or srinking-tube to isolate your pinzette😅.your clock battery are still in the radio.and you can make a little shock from your body-electricity👍
Thank you and good advice! For as far as I can see I would only damage the battery, but it's a good idea anyway :)
Cheers & thanks for stopping by :)
@@DutchRC when happen a electrik-shock you can destroy everything what you touch with any metal.(It goes from your body to the elektronik-part you touch in this time)..i crash a smartphone with this "body elektricity",,,be careful👍🙏
Wish you a good time😊
Bedankt, leuke video.
Heb mijn X20S nu een week in bezit en ben zeer tevreden tot nu toe, mooie upgrade van mijn Taranis X9D+
Goeie dag Alfred :) Dank je wel uiteraard EN altijd goed om van andere gebruikers te 'horen' :)
Mooi dat hij je goed bevalt natuurlijk :)
Pretty interesting radio indeed, dude! Thanks! 😊
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Yes agreed! Fancy looking thing and I was interested to see what their new ecosystem looks like (despite some 'grievances' in their past)
Cheers brother! Stay save
Very clear and precise. Good tips. Very good job.
Thanks Max :) glad you liked the video
Tks for the video!! very nice!!
Thank you very much Eduardo 😎
Thanks for the vid on inside FrSky radio. Did you ever find out if Bluetooth module can be added onto the X20 radio?
thanks for stopping by :) YES that is indeed possible for the retail version :P With my pre-production one it is not :D :P
Hoi DutchRC, Interessante video zoals de meeste van je, maar ik dacht dat je helemaal niet zo'n fan was van FrSky??? Zit zelf op dit moment erg te twijfelen tussen deze radio en de FlySky Paladin PL18. Welke zou jij aanbevelen als je moest kiezen tussen die twee types/merken? Alvast bedankt.
Dank je wel EN klopt! Ik heb enkele jaren geen Frsky zender meer gehad nu, maar wilde deze nog maar weer es een kans geven :P En voor mij zou dit (als hij bevalt) ook een vervanging zijn voor de PL18..
Grootste voordeel van de Frsky optie is de verscheidenheid aan ontvangers.. daar is frsky een stuk beter in.. EN het scherm van de PL18 is buiten niet/moeilijk bruikbaar..
De PL18 heeft nog wel wat kleine 'dingetjes' die me tegen staan, maar geen enkele zender is perfect :)
I'll tell you what. it looks a lot better build then the Jumper I do my flyin with :P cool radio man! thanks for the insite
Yeahhh especially compared to the T16 and 1st gen T18.. those weren't well build
Shouldnt be so Hard to over come RM and Jumper in Quality. Seems to be that you never hold a x10 or x12 in your Hands?
@@MrGucci86 not sure who that was adressed to (I've flown an X10S for a couple of years)
@@DutchRC to space Cowboy 😉
@@MrGucci86 people say the RM is better build. might be reviewers hype :P
very much on a budget over here!
Thanks for this video.. I want to buy an X20 but need to move the momentary toggle switch to the other side of the radio. I see that the switches are wired and not soldered to a board and that makes things easier
you're welcome and yes.. shouldn't be hard at all.. after that you can potentially re-define what kind of swtich is where (for instance if you place a 3-post switch in the spot of the momentairy one).. will work :)
Hi is it possible to add a bluetooth to base x20? Also I think it was you who added a ranger elrs module from RM. Did you remove the antenna that is through the stand?
At least not in my radio.. if you look at my video's thumbnail, the BT module should be on the right, just above the Tiny daughterboard..
Your best bet would probably getting a replacement of that bottom board (the one that spans from left-to-right, but then ofcourse from a X20S ...
I did come across this by the way, but my version of the main-board wouldn't accept it:
www.horusrc.com/en/frsky-transmitter-bluetooth-module-for-tandem-x20-x20s.html
I'm about to get this radio and mainly fly heli's. Having flown Spektrum for years it's a must for me to change the left momentarily switch for a 2 position one (for a throttle hold/kill function) I'm very comfortable soldering would I be able to just change out the 2 switches (2 pos and 2pos momentary) ideally unsoldering them at the swith and leaving the cables tucked away at they are? Or will that upset Ethos.
Good question and yes if you can solder you would be able to do this. The switches are similar / the same as what you can buy from an electronics store..
And nope, you will nmot upset Ethos. In fact if you swap out a momentairy with a 2-pos from the other side of the radio there would be nothing to change in Ethos..
Would you swap out a 3-pos with a 2-pos you will have to change a setting in the configuration but even thhat is very simple :)
@@DutchRC thanks for the quick answer. I guess soldering would be faster in my case (I hope lol) seems like quite some disassembly to get to the main board. I'll just swap these 2 so I settings wise I'm good
@@RubenRC94 I actually replaced the main board & screen-electronics on my X20 HD recently.. it wasn't fun but doable ;)
I'd also take the "swap switches" route in your case! :D
Great video thanks…please to adjust the stiffness of the elevator/aileron and rudder gimbals what exactly should I do on x20s? Need to open from the back ? Many thanks
Thanks Raphael :)
I don't have the radio with me here BUT.. when you remove the rubber grips from the back, you will have access to the tensioning-screws.. The manual should tell you how (?)
@@DutchRC Thanks for your quick reply! Unfortunatelly the provided manual dont mention nothing about those screws...
@@rafa090581 removinging the back is pretty easy though :) Once you've done that once, you can see what holes at the back can be used the change the tension :)
Great video - the “music” is just a distraction though 😊
Thank you and I'll tell the composer! :D
Is the end user permitted to "physically" move the switches to different locations ?
That should not be a problem indeed Frank.. As long as the wires are long enough for the new location...
Hi, My radio give RTC battery is low, do you know what to do? thanks in advance
Howdy :) that means an internal battery (the one that keeps time when the radio is off) needs to be replaced... same thing I mentioned in the video.. I had to replace that battery as well...
Wanted to figure out how to get to the sound module and speakers, sadly you didn't cover that, so it's more or less a 1/3 teardown
Sorry.. it's an expensive radio that I wanted to actually use as well.. So I didn't take it further then I felt comfortable with...
@@DutchRCAh, okay, I understand.
I just sent my radio back to the seller, I am still on warranty with the sender, so it's for free.
Found out that the speakers are broken, because headphones are still working.
Usually I watch teardowns from ifixit, and they usually tear down everything, so I was expecting something different
@@guidow9616gotcha.. and that is a shame! Did your speaker not work at all, or did you just have a (very) low volume..
Anyway! I assume they will fix things.. or did you ask for your $$ back?
@@DutchRC They did work for ~1y, then they broke. At a similar time that I did an upgrade, so I first suspected EthOS, but this wasn't the case.
I am still on waranty, so I had to pay to send it there, but then they do it for free. If not I will disassemble it by myself. I even soldered a new antenna for my X9D after fucking it up with a soldering iron before ;-).
If only flysky pl-18 could work on improving their operating system into something as fancy looking at the frsky.
Exactly.. AND improve the diversity of available receivers...
You can see why I'm giving this X20 a go....
Bought it on impulse when it was released, though I have an X9D 2019 and RadioMaster T16 I am pretty happy with. Somehow I though I wanted something a bit higher end (though this is no JETI...) for my gas planes and bigger helis. I also read everywhere that they'd also make it Crossfire compatible, a must for my quad fleet.
While not bad, I was disappointed by the feel : the trim tabs are all cheap and wobbly, the side sliders are impossible to reach easily and while there is a new FW version every week to correct what seems an endless list of bugs, Crossfire is nowhere in sight... :( Keep it, sell it? Not sure yet...
Howdy Jacques :)
Sooo a litle backstory from this side: I ordered the X10S a couple of years back.. And a week after I had received it I found out Frsky had intentionally changed the radio so Crossfire wouldn't work (well)...
Anyway.. I've decided to give them another shot here as we do all benefit from a good number of options in the market...
BUT.. I can kinda guarantee you Crossfire won't happen for the X20 apart from a non specific connection... (so yep.. there kinda is some false advertising there right?)
So far I like the radio though (I knew Crossfire was a no-go)
@@DutchRC Well, time will tell! :) Anyway, I can live without CRSF, but I am really disappointed by the ergonomics (ok, that's personal, maybe others have found a way to use the sliders without letting go of the sticks...) and the awful trim buttons rattling around that give the whole radio a very cheap feel. Or is it just mine that do that??
@@jacquesmaries2324 the trims-switches of mine actually feel ok but there is Something a little rattly in the radio.. Not sure what it is.. I was thinking one of the motion-sensors..
The sliders... yep.. gotto take your hand off of the stick for them :P
Those snap-on antenna connectors look like the same type that are on the original xd9 ( ~2014), which would get lose and cause range issues. The post 2014 xd9 simply soldered the antenna... Not as easy to change antennas but much more reliable. I lost 2 jets to this. I never removed the connector.. it just lost range on it's own. I had hoped they would abandon these for good. I know at least some of the recievers use these snap-on connectors too but at least you have 2 antenna.
those are ufl connectors and those do indeed have their limitations.. They don't really losen up without any reason though, but if you disconnect them inpropperly Once, they will never be any good anymore after that..
MMCX connectors would be more secure but to be frank: almost all radio's use ufl connectors
Er werd bij de zender een klein zwart lusje geleverd. Ik dacht eerst dat die voor de lanyard-hole bedoeld was maar ik werd er laatst op gewezen dat die bedoeld is om om de accu te doen zodat je deze makkelijker uit de zender kunt halen. Dan hoef je geen tape te gebruiken ;)
:O interessant! :D thanks man.. dat is goede info :)
One thing i really dont like about this radio are the round switches. flat switches like on the tx16s are way better
how are those better? from experience I know they aren't Stronger..
you find those easier to work with maybe?
I think you mean 900mhz not 9mhz
just checking to see if people pay attention ;)
you are ofcourse right.. later on in the video I corrected myself
9Mhz. ? 😱🤥
yeahhh things happen :P I did correct myself in the video :P