How much I've earned doing Amazon FLEX UK as a side hustle (full financial breakdown)
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- Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
- In this video I go through how much I've earned from doing Amazon FLEX, including my take home hourly rate, how much petrol I've used on average and much more!
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This is great! Good insight! Thanks for sharing 👍
My pleasure!
I couldn't understand why I was seeing so much surge rates a few weeks ago, and you helped me understand it was because of Ramadan. i drive Flex in USA.
Yea it went a bit nuts didn’t it 😂 end of the month is pretty nice as well when people get paid and start spending on amazon
It is worth noticing with Flex - it depends on the area. In my town the slots are taken as fast as they are released, so sadly can't wait for rate increases. But easy to do a 3.5 hours slot in 2.5 hours.
Just subscribed as I’m thinking of doing Amazon Flex (evening,weekends) would love to see a full shift video if possible to get a real idea of what is involved, how many parcel drops etc
Thanks for subscribing mate! Currently editing a shift video so should be up by Friday hopefully! 🤞🏼
Great video mate, would love a shift video. I think that would be really interesting 🎉
Thanks mate
I started my business at the start of March and flex has been really decent to get a bit of money in whilst I grow that . I don’t know if it’s my location but a 3.5 hr block has only taken me over 2 hrs once . Normally £61-£66 …. Not the best but suits my current circumstance well . Did blocks during lockdown and the same block would of paid £39 so miles better in 2024
Thats quality mate. Exactly its a nice little earner to enable you to do bigger and better things
Very helpfull video. I have a fulltime job of 4 on 4 off and i was thinking what to do on my days off. You gave me a idea :)
It’s a nice little earner on the side for sure
That doesnt include the extra wear on your car though, tyre wear, engine wear from constant start stopping, brakes extra wear... you need to have your own vehicle, you also didn't include the extra cost in insurance, car ownership, servicing, car maintenance, ...
If you take all that out to your £13 an hour, you're getting very close to the national minimum wage...
I mean its extra income from sacrificing some of your free time after your day job, and in this day and age every little bit of income helps.
That’s £13 an hour after tax and expenses, so fully take home pay. National living wage is before all these things are deducted, so it’s probably around £8-£9 once you get taxed etc.
It’s personal choice i guess 🤷🏻♂️
Meanwhile working for evri I’m getting £5 an hour 💀
Good additional income - would like to see some shifts. Cheers Sue 😊
thanks Sue!
I have 2 or 3 on my channel ☺️
Tip for you : Look carefully the signs before approaching any minor road with restricted area. Amazon navigation as a sh.t , I used to be sent a penalty notice letter (Islington, london) 😢😢. I asked customer service but they didn’t support 😅
It’s so crap isnt it. Always getting sent down small potholed roads my car can’t fit down when theres a literal main road that gets you to the same spot like 1 minute later
Ah good, I can probably do this to pay off my car 🤣
Only got 56k on the clock, just hope my car doesn't have issues down the line, though I'm on a good job as it is, just no overtime atm lol
Thanks for the video mate.
Fo example it’s not possible in Manchester. I can’t take two blocks per day, maybe just on weekends
Great video!
I have a question: how often did you have days when there was no work available or are there more couriers than work?
Thanks and good luck 🤞🏻
I could easily get a shift every evening, however it goes through quiet and busy times. Quiet times people always accept base rate which isn’t good money. Busy times you can wait until an hour before the block starts and accept a surge price which is worth it. Can’t work more than 24 hours a week, but if you just do evenings, you’ll be able to get a shift a day easy. Just depends on whether you’re happy taking base rate or not (i wouldn’t)
Hi .. I’ve just applied for this . Waiting for there reply on my checks which shouldn’t be a problem… I’m confused about the tax. How do you no how much tax to take of u daily wage
Have you considered the other costs of using your own car? For example extra work insurance or even if you've done 2280 miles already, eventually this will start to depreciate the value of your car?
Yeah the way I see it I would rather use my car to earn more money than have my car sat on the drive. The money earned through Flex has already exceeded the potential depreciation of the car anyway. Just one of them things you weigh up at the start, and if you’re happy with it, then carry on.
However, I certainly wouldnt be doing Flex if I had a £30k-40k car 😅
I'm awaiting background checks atm..thanks for this advice
Nice! Never be scared to email amazon support if it’s taking too long 🤝🏼
I have new driving licence in uk how I make insurance for amazon flex
Do you have to include this type of work in your car insurance, did it mean your car policy goes up?
Yes basically doubles your insurance as you need hire and reward insurance
@@dkhan3233 Doubles? more like quadruples. You have 2 options go with a provided who will do normal Social and Communiting with Hire and Reward like Zego or you get Inshur which is cheap but requires a normal insurance policy that allows top up.
For me the first was a no-no, they were quoting £1800+ when I normally pay £450. The second was also a no no because even though it was 57p per hour from Inshur, the only company who allows top up, Admiral were quoting £1080.
Unless you are planning to do a lot of shifts, don't bother with Amazon Flex.
The other point is - most people don't even know the level of insurance required or they deliberately lie to their insurance companies.
Thanks for doing this video, really helpful. It sounds like pretty good pay to me for a relatively easy job.
Did you manage to get the 45p per mile back?
I will find out once my accountant does the tax return, but it is looking very likely
I see, hopefully it'll work out for you £££
I've gone on the app to sign up but it says they don't need people in my area at the moment, damn! Hopefully won't have to wait too long.
@@markpearce8389 When they do take you on, you wont be able to get blocks as there are way too many drivers . You spend more time refreshing the app to get blocks, than you do working.
Have you included vehicle repairs and services, also paying an accountant? Good video though
He hasn't covered insurance in detail either. You can't just have "Inshur PAYG", it needs to be a top to a standard Social and Commuting policy that allows top ups. Most of the main insurers don't do top ups, Churchill and Admiral appear to be the two who do but policies with them cost substantially more. In my case more than double.
Yes mileage should be calculated door to door , thats what i used to do when i did flex in 2020 for 6 months
Ok nice good to know. Was it all ok with the tax etc?
@@tommywillsAh as for tax , the mileage to the depot from your house is not included, only when doing the block from the depot that it counts. I used to calculate door to door just for my personal insight. I used to get really mad when I started getting 70 or 90 miles door to door even on little blocks .
I was a bit fortunate with my accounts , there was a accountant bored during COVID so was doing returns for free so took him up on it to do mine which he did
@@tommywills Mileage should be calculated from collection to last parcel drop off at customers house or depot if returning. Travel to or from depot isnt included.
@@MartinMurray1966 my depot is less than a mile from my house so i just do it from my house.
Agreed though if someones depot is 10 miles away from their house then claim from collection 👍🏼
Im starting Amazon Flex in my Mercedes A Class A200 i took slot for £46.80 for next week do you think it’s best to wait on the day or pre book 2-3 days in advance.
Definitely cancel that slot mate.
Base rates are not worth it.
You’re better off waiting until around 4:30pm and refreshing the offers page until the prices change. Aim for £60+ for 3 hour blocks and £65+ for 3.5 hour blocks.
It can be hard sometimes as people are so quick to accept the surge rates, but it’s worth the risk in my opinion
DCR3 is a gravyard depot. more money they load you up with many blocks then you do. crazy mileage
Yeah i bet London way it’s a nightmare
Does the tax-free allowance still apply if you're between jobs? I'm obviously not going to be earning 12 grand doing this until I get a job (at which point I'll probably quit Amazon anyway), so, will I have to pay tax at all?
I’m honestly not sure mate. Best to have a look on Reddit and see what other drivers are saying and if any are in a similar position to you… or speak to a financial advisor/accountant 👌🏼
Hi, is 24 hours the maximum you can do on amazon flex ? Thanx
yes
Is is possible to make this your main/only job? Or is there a limit on how many hours you can do per day, week, month etc?
I’m pretty sure there’s a 24 hour limit. It’s definitely not a full time job, but is a fantastic way in my opinion to top up your full time wage
@@tommywills Thanks Tommy, is that 24hr limit per week then?
@@markpearce8389 i think so. Best thing to do is have a look on reddit and see what other drivers say
@@tommywills ok thankyou
Do you need any special insurance for your car when you do amazon flex ?
@@orion51089 hire and reward insurance
@@tommywills thank you
Really helpful video, well in mate 🙌
Glad to hear it!
Do you honestly think that 45p / pence per mile as a tax deduction, covers or exceeds the cost of depreciation, servicing, tyres, insurance, VED, replacement brakes, exhausts, repairs and fuel for the first 10,000 miles? Then it drops to what, 25p/ per mile?
I didn’t say it would cover anything, I said you would pay less tax as you would put 45p per mile through as an expense.
It’s always handy to put a little extra away in case of any car maintenance. Think people are forgetting that you pay for all these things on a car regardless of driving it slightly more than you would usually. It’s not that big of a deal
Yeah it will more than cover it and should cover all maintenance you do anyway when doing personal/ normal job. He is nowhere near the drop off 10,000 rate anyway. You are making it sound like cars need exhausts, brakes etc every year. The rest you would be doing anyway and an additional 2,000 miles per year will not meaningfully effect the depreciation or any off the repairs/parts you listed anyway to the relief is just an added bonus that will probably pay for an oil change, mot etc.. that he would have otherwise needed to pay out of pocket anyway.
Have you done this job before? If you have, what in God's name are you driving for it: a V12 Bentley?! Of course the 45p rate would cover it!
Just taking the 6 months example in this video (so I doubled the mileage as a reasonable estimate for a whole year): 2285 miles in 6 months - that's a total of 4570 miles for the year. Multiply that by the 0.45p and you get £2,056.50 in total vehicle expenses you can claim. How in the world you couldn't run a car for a year for that, if you're driving a resonable car for it that's not in the garage every other month and even forgetting your personal use for the rest of the time, is beyond me.
@@usefulrandom1855 You clearly havnet been sent on some of these horrendous blocks that flex want you to do. 70 mile trip to first drop in mid wales from chester. Try doing them for £60 a pop and then tell me that your car will last the same, driving over roads that look like the surface of the moon.
How many parcels are delivered in 3.5hours?
Can depend. All comes down to how far they send you. For example, somewhere close by is usually around 35-40 parcels.
Medium distance is about 20-25.
I’ve done a 3.5 hour one before where i had 4 parcels but travelled about 60 miles away
@@tommywills thanks mate 👊
What about the expenses of insurance?
Its 60p per hour you work. It’s a ‘pay as you work’ type thing. So a 3 hour block would cost £1.80 in insurance, however when tax return comes round you can claim this back as an expense.
I haven’t included any expenses in this video yet as I haven’t done my tax return. That will be in a separate video later down the line
@@tommywillsJust know that if you plan on using the 45p flat rate to claim for the mileage, that includes every cost of running the vehicle so, you can't then separately claim insurance on top as well. It's either the flat rate or actual costs but you can't mix and match.
@@tommywills It's not just 60p, you need to have an insurance policy that allows top up, which as far as I know right now is only Admiral. So if you're with Admiral great you're covered, if not then you've likely been driving without insurance. Admiral will charge you a lot though for that policy and remember you have to declare this as a part time job when they ask about that.
@@GameOvais of course
So you need to do your own taxes and also factor in the cost of your accountant.
You can do a self assessment yourself but i use accountant for other things so doesn’t cost me any extra
@@tommywills ah, good to know. never even heard of amazon flex before seeing your vid through the youtube algorithm. might give it a go.
@@Fezzy976 yea give it a go man, i enjoy it
@@tommywills you reckon someone could do this fulltime?
@@Fezzy976 can only do a maximum of 24 hours of delivering a week unfortunately. Its definitely made for a side hustle
Hello, and thank you for the video. Have you got an email I can contact you on regards to this? I would like to give it a go. I only have an old laptop though, and I am not the most intelligent. I am really struggling with living costs. In England, UK, and even making £100 a week would me out majorly. The money will go towards food, etc. I would even like to do some admin/promotion for your channel. I am just a genuine guy struggling with the cost of living. peace
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Iv been on the waiting list for a year 🤮
I was on there for a while.. although thats what i thought. I contacted amazon support and they informed me there was a glitch with my application and they told me to do a new one… few weeks later i was fully set up and enrolled.
You should email them and see if this is the case with you
@@tommywills Appreciate the response bud thank you. Iv sent them an email explaining everything and actually got a response. Iv been told I have to wait still 😂!
"Paper licences without a photo are not sufficient." That's me out already. I refuse to get a photo driving licence to satisfy other parties, to meet their needs, when I do not need one to actually drive my car.
They do it so they know you are the one working. They do an id check before most blocks. Similar to ID cards in other jobs.
Fair enough though!
@@tommywills I didn't notice any mention of photo ID on the Flex website, which is different from having a valid UK drivers licence. They referred to a valid UK driving licence, numerous times, which I have, but no mention of 'photo' until FAQs. Support were not helpful, will not answer my question about requirements to open an account until I have an account 🙃
It’s not bad for a side hustle.
ANY DELIVERY DRIVING JOB IS A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME AFTER EXPENSES ETC MINUS TAX TOTAL WASTE OF TIME
Sorry to hear that Lee
@tommywills it's just the truth mate you nake nothing for all the hassle pointless
@@LeeH864 personally, just over £13 an hour after tax/expenses is pretty good. I’ll keep doing it 👌🏼
@tommywills it is not £13 an hour after tax expenses etc use your brain the amount of miles you are putting on you car the wear & tear etc it does not work out to £13 an hour use your brain surely your not thst thick
@@LeeH864 i’m afraid it is Lee. The calculations are correct 👍🏼
Hello and thank you for the video. I hope that you are well. Have you got an email address. I can contact you with regards to this ? I would like to give it as I am really struggling with living costs in England Uk and would be super grateful for help. Even making 100 pounds/dollars a week would help me as you would not believe. Thank You
i never get any offers near me it’s frustrating
It's so frustrating, there's always peaks and troughs though. End of the month after people have been paid or around Prime day/black friday/Xmas is the best. it's a bit rubbish any other time unless you live in a good location.
Keep an eye out between 4:30pm-5:30pm. that's usually the time when surge prices come in in my area, might be the same for you
Do u just keep petrol receipts and give them 2 yr accountant?
I’ve been keeping a few receipts but not sure if they will be needed
@@tommywills 👍
True about the mileage allowance mate it helps with putting money towards repair costs 👍
Yea i’ve started doing that now also. Can never be too prepared