New NFL kickoff rule explained and what it means for 2024 season | Pro Football Talk | NFL on NBC
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- Опубликовано: 20 сен 2024
- Mike Florio and Chris Simms talk through the new NFL kickoff rule modeled by the XFL and explore how this could open a world of opportunities for the players and coaches to capitalize on. #NBCSports #ProFootballTalk #nfl
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Next up, those rushing the qb have to count - 1 Mississippi, 2 Mississippi, 3 Mississippi , 4 Mississippi then rush.
i hope special team coordinators get real creative with this, counter plays, buck sweep plays, wildcat formations with jet sweep actions
I can see a lot of situations with the two returners playing off each other, like one guy being a blocker or a lateral option. I’m all for this. And if I’m not mistaken there’s now a penalty for kickoffs that go into the end zone like kickoffs that go out of bounds?
@@philipcallado5693 i don’t think there is a penalty you might have to check the official rules
Nobody moves nobody gets hurt
Let’s just have a skills competition. No more contact. 😂
The electric football comparison is the perfect analogy
Advantage Chiefs, we can just Reid kick off and play safety.
Thank you XFL for the work your league is doing for the NFL from the sky cam to the new kick off rule. This will allow more returns and less injury, and more creativity for special teams.
Agreed. That's what people don't realize. The restrictions and formations required for this should produce some more interesting strategies for the kickoff.
What more returns?
A lot of flags will be flying at kickoff for the first few weeks
If the XFL can figure it out im sure the NFL will too
@@HunteronaBudget you are right, but there will definitely be an adjustment period
Yeah, a TON of "illegal leaving the setup zone early" penalties in preseason.
@@corneliuspraeda6452 I don't think so. The XFL didn't have a single offside or leaving early penalty in the 1.5 years the league was playing. Keyshawn Johnson from Undisputed was saying this is already like a practice kickoff play so there really isn't nothing new being introduced to these guys.
@@HunteronaBudget Well, I really just meant for the preseason, but I hope you're right. I can see some decent opportunity for creativity in a play that's gotten really stale. To the point that it could've just been abolished altogether.
I agree with the poster who said there will be like 20 TD returns the first week. Though that may be an exaggeration, I would think there would be a ton of them. I see this in comparison to a running back breaking through the line on a short yardage play. If he does, he's gone. There's nobody there to make a play on him because everyone is lined up at the line of scrimmage. Now that doesn't happen very often of course. But I can see that happening more now with this alignment because the return team can setup their blocking a bit longer. It looks like, if everyone makes their block correctly for a few seconds and maybe the returner can break one tackle, he'll be gone. Another way to look at it, those returns we used to see where the returner would get to his own 40-45 yard line or so? Those will all be touchdowns now because there won't be anyone to make the tackle at the 40. So is that good? I think it will be joke. Maybe I'll be wrong about this happening. I hope I am.
This seems like the NFL will be moving towards completely eliminating the kick off all together.
Justin Reid on the safety for the chiefs is the backup kicker and he’s already said he’d be down to kick for this. People are far less likely to get past him than Harrison butker lol
Harrison is gone anyways
@@Imfr3sh You mean Tommy Townsend no?
What about on side kicks
time for NFL teams to adopt a Rugby approach to returns? as if the ball has just come out of the scrum, I can see tons of scenarios in which the lateral, and a series of laterals, could be epic!! this is fresh new ground already trod upon by Ruggers!!
Yeah harbaugh gonna have 12 tds on special teams this year. This could be pretty cool with the level of athlete the nfl has
Which Harbaugh?
@@danirocket21611 John. He was a special teams coach for Andy reid I think. Hell probably both of them really!
@@seang9450 _Both_ *Harbaughs* or John Harbaugh and Andy Reid? 😂
Week one there will be like 20 KR TD's and they will have to scrap this stupid system.
Teams will just start kicking touchbacks again lol
lol bro the returner has so much room to get to the 30 lol this gimmick arcade stuff will ruin the game
Imagine losing a playoff game cuz the special teams scores 3 tds 😂
It's a very real possibility with these stupid kick off rules and defenders not being able to tackle from behind lol.
You’ll have nothing to worry about. They’re still kicking from the 35, so NFL kickers are going to just boom it out of the end zone 9/10 times for a touchback.
I’m now fully convinced they are killing football on purpose.
Why don't they make the NFL touch football,. this way no bad injuries, no CTE, no vicious tackles and NO exciting game. Like the PRO BOWL. One day that is what the NFL will be.
I see a lot of pre-planned bunching up and moving formations/walls/etc formed immediately after it all begins.... It's gonna be like a returner following a moving 4/5 man block, ...creating instant lines of scrimmage where it often becomes a de-facto run play most of the time. Just where I see teams strategizing/heading with this arrangement...
Anything for those 18 games huh
Say it again
football fans complaining about having more football to watch, and whining about rules that encourage more football plays in special teams
make it make sense to me
It's not that football fans are complaining about having more football to watch. It's NFL fans tired of them blowing smoke up their ass. The NFL claims the reason they changed the kicking rules and banned hip drop tackles is, because they're too dangerous and they care about player safety so they had to make changes. If they really care about player safety then why haven't they banned turf which has a 28% higher injury rate than grass? Why haven't they banned Thursday and international games, which have a 21% higher injury rate. Why are they trying to play 20 regular season games, which will cause more injuries. The reality is they're trying to increase scoring by making tackling illegal and making the kickoffs so easy Simone Biles could score a touchdown. The NBA did the same thing by making every defensive play a foul, so scores now are 142-137 because nobody plays defense. Guess what the NBA viewership went down 30% after they made those changes. The same thing will happen to the NFL. Fans don't care about score they want to see a good offensive and defensive battle, not having defensive players playing with one hand tied behind their back. The most popular sport in the world is soccer and the most common score is 1-0. The MLB last year finally listened to the fans and started using pitching clocks so pitchers can't sent on the mound for 5 minutes scratching his balls and games lasting 5 hours. The 2023 season saw a 10% increase in viewers and ticket sales. It's not hard to listen to the fans and players when making decisions, but their ego doesn't allow them to do that. They have a bunch of nerds from Princeton that have never played football making rules decisions, because they created an algorithm that says this is a good decision.
@@MrThenonchosenone Well said sir. Some people in this world can’t recognize bullshit.
@@MrThenonchosenone The nfl is making all these lame ass changes because they continue to get fucked over and sued by ex players claiming the sport they signed up for and were payed a kings ransom was dangerous and caused them to have permanent injures. This is the nfl covering their ass. So be mad at the players for being money hungry and forcing the nfl to make all these soft changes
One thing I'm unsure of right now: Can the non-receiving players move around within their setup zones during the kick? I mean, as long as they stay inside their respective zones? Also, if they can't, can they move around UNTIL the ball is actually kicked? Just spitballing here, if these players must remain mostly stationary, I could see some REAL interesting tactical special teams plays blossoming from this.
That's what I'm thinking. This is going to be better than most people think. This really can become a chess not checkers thing.
@@a.j.bartley8449 For example, I could see the kicking team lining up with a gap somewhere, then kicking a SCREAMER, about head-high, into the landing zone. Because the touchback for a ball touching in the landing zone is the 20, the receiving pretty much HAS to field it vs giving up the free yardage. But once it hits the ground, who knows where that sucker's gonna go?
I mean, kick it soccer-style most of the time, then some LB who kicked in high school gets out there and toes it while the ball's flat on the tee!
First thing I'd do, RIGHT NOW, is call Belichick and ask him for 2-3 hours of his time one day. Dude was always into special-teams, and would pull some quirky ST stuff every now and then. No doubt he'll have some choice ideas.
You'll just see more kickers kicking it through the back of the endzone.
Yeah, it will play out like it does now. It’s a touchback most of the time.
40 yard line if you kick it out of the green zone - so no.
Neck injuries can happen on punts also.......as well as any tackle......they might was well play flag football......
What about onside kicks? Can they fix that so there is a chance of recovery?
Onside only allowed in the 4th quarter and you have to announce its happening so both teams can line up in the older style.
Dante Hall was thee X factor!
Give the kicking team the opportunity to kick the ball out of bounds inside the 10. If nobody moves until its caught it has to be played. What happens to onside kick?
Sarcastaball
Oh my. That's the greatest game ever!
So happy the Colts took a guy specifically for returning under these new rules
In case anyone is still looking for a real kick return, look north of the border where we still play by the real rules on the kickoff.
Nfl moving like every kick off isnt a touch back🤣
what are you talking about lol that's literally the exact thing this rule is designed to counteract
do people even LIKE football? or do they just love blindly crying about everything
It wont be anymore. Whats your point
@@mattcarberry368 so what happens if a player decided to kneel and touchback? do the team start from the 35 ?
Exactly. Kickers will still kick the ball through the endzone
@@WaveRider1989They start from the 30
MFGA Make football great again
I think this is going to be good. Creativity will be improved and getting off the block and blocking will become a premium for players. So guys that can get off a block quickly will be a prime player and guys that can really block will be paid better. If you whiff on a block?!? Good Lawd! The fireworks 🎇
What's the difference.... 9 out of 10 kicks are TOUCHBACKS !!!!!
My biggest complaint- what will happen to the fair catch free kick? Is it now only an option for a fourth quarter onside kick? Half joking- one of the beautiful things about the game was how everything was fundamentally four or so “types” of plays- scrimmage, free kick, place kick, try for extra point(s)… maybe I’m missing something. There are too many overtweaked set-piece plays now where a team has to declare what they are attempting beforehand, you can’t do this, you can’t do that, only in the fourth quarter this, etc. The professional game is becoming unrecognizable from the playground game, and I think that is bad for the sport in the long run.
Also, I’ve noticed 9/10 videos on this are positive, and the majority of comments are negative. I guess follow the money- talking heads are contracted to the nfl to hype the sport so they are going to be pushing this. Remember that moment in 2020 when sports talk and advertising disappeared altogether for a month or two, and we realized we didn’t miss them?
All 10 players shouldn't move forward when the returner gets the ball.2 should fall back to assist the kicker in tackling the returner.
Is this going to completely transform special teams? I feel like there is a chance to run plays out of this now
Well if you watchds the XFL it was class. Teams did all sorts of fun stuff with it
Why are they always talking over each over?
Kickers might need to learn to tackle lol they are the only safety back there
I hope we get some crazy special teams plays with the new kickoff. Impress us special teams coordinators!
What happens f the ball keeps being blown off of the tee on the KO?
Everyone was making a big deal about the new kickoff rule but now that I see it, I'm like, "oh, so they copied the XFL"
So how does the receiving team know when the balls caught? A whistle is blown?
If one guy misses a block, aren't you still going to have guys hitting each other at full speed?
Possibly, but defenders and blockers can't move until the ball is fielded or hits the ground so everyone will still be moving slower.
I have no idea what they're doing and could care less because I'm tuning the game out entirely.
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You’re gonna have a lot of kickers making tackles and getting hurt by doing so
If they're not moving the kickoff from the 35 there's still going to be constant touchbacks
You can see what they're trying to do here, and once the action begins, players from both sides will accelerate like jets leaving an aircraft carrier, bringing the excitement of kickoffs back vs. the app. 2,000 touchbacks last year!
It'll be fine. It'll be fun. Play on!
Why don't they just do away with the kick and just start at the 50 yard line
what about the onside kick? How do they line up or is the onside kick done away with?
They have to say they are doing an onside kick so no more surprise onsides
also you're now allowed to go with unbalanced formations for the onside, allowing a team to go heavy on one side theoretically increasing the likelihood of a potential recovery.... they changed it years back forcing teams to go 5x5 no matter what, and that's when onside kicks went from difficult to nearly impossible.... hopefully that change makes them more relevant again
Also can’t happen until the fourth quarter.
@@jasonstaroscik1627 which is kind of a dumb stipulation to add, but probably is pretty irrelevant since almost nobody ever attempts an onside kick until its absolutely necessary
See what it looks like in the 1st season game. If I think it sucks not going to watch. Why??
If I were the head coach of the Dolphins Tyreek Hill is doing all kickoff returns. You'd have a short field a majority of the time and the occasional return for TD.
There's gonna be a lot of return for touchdowns next year
What happens with an inside kick?
Imma gonna stick with the CFL. They brought this up for consideration and voted to down unanimously.
Just restart the games like they do in Rugby drop kick it from the halfway line
All kickers will simply kick through the zone to set the opposition on the 30 because those 10 years simply don't matter. The kickoff team WILL HAVE TO TAKE AWAY the advantage of the kick returner.
This is just such a joke. Everyone on the competition committee should be fired.
Death of the kicker… seriously teams are just going to train up their best and quickest tackler to kick it off as there is going to be multiple break throughs each game
ah yes football fans are suddenly incredibly invested in the sustainability of the kickoff specialist lol it's not that you just want to whine about everything no matter what, it's that you specifically care about how many times some guy you've never heard off kicks a ball for a touchback, because that's what fans are here for huh lol
but yeah, this rule that encourages more football action in special teams play is so awful huh
@@mattcarberry368 cool. Not sure it was a personal attack fella, but get riled up by it by all means. The kicker is a specialist position and I for one can see teams finding a hybrid style player to fill that void with this rule. Not sure that’s what fans will want, particularly if you need to kick a 55 yard fg in overtime … but with 18 games coming up soon the squads will get bigger and maybe there will be room for both on the squads. Cheers
@@dannigibbins4641 kicking a 55 yard FG in overtime literally has absolutely NOTHING to do with kickoffs so i don't even understand the nature of your concerns whatsoever ,and i don't understand how you think eliminating ceremonial kickoffs means that field goal kickers are suddenly going extinct lol this in no way, shape or form means that kickers are irrelevant and teams are just gonna start asking linebackers to do it
but regardless didn't mean to come in hot, it's a character flaw i suppose lol cheers🍻
Damn, Roger Goodell calm down lol
@@dannigibbins4641 18 games, bring on 20 games; more football the better, so what? more players; more plays, more games for us.
I almost never see guys get hurt on kick returns. People who wanna blame the NFL for these rule changes should really realize that its not the NFL's doing. It's the players, agents, and lawyers who are going after the NFL and suing them after they get injured just to get some money out of the deal. They know the risks and willingly signed up for it and got paid a shit pile of money to do so. Its those people who are forcing the NFL to make these lame ass changes.
So now the player catching the ball will get father down the field
Kickers kick it through the end zone anyway. This changes nothing. Still gonna see a shitload of touchbacks
Are onside kicks dead?
No. However, the kicking time must announce their intention to the Refs. No more "surprise" onside kicks. When an onside kick occurs, they fall under the normal old rules.
Surprise onside kicks are dead.
I know some coach is gonna name a kick off play.
Once the ball is caught, kick off team does the same jukes in sync😂
The kickers are still going to just kick the ball through the endzone
sell, Sell, SELL it. The newbies will buy like it's a good thing. I'll watch my old Crunch Course & NFL Greatest Hits videos.
No onside kick?
So does this eliminate the onside kick play?
It's still allowed, but only in the 4th quarter or overtime.
@@adgeless1989 And you have to tell the referee that you are going to attempt an onside kick.
Why don't they go to flag football, and get it over with.
Does this eliminate the onside kick?
It eliminates the surprise onside kick. The kicking team has to declare that they are attempting an onside kick, and then the play reverts more to the previous format.
So long story short the onside kick has been eliminated lol. It only had a 3% success rate with the surprise element, so now that you have to tell everybody and their momma what you're about to do that will drop to 0%.
New rules eliminate _surprise onside kicks._ Under the new rules, onside kicks can only be attempted in the 4th quarter of regulation
This play will be lame, the kickoff will not feel fast and energetic. All of those amazing kickoff returns were old times, put it back to 2010, and don’t touch it. I want to see random onside kicks too
Really going to continue to be a touchback 90% of the time like it is now unless the move the kickoff spot back. It’s a useless play. They’ve just now eliminated the chance of a surprise onside kick. This just tells all the players on kickoff to sit around. It’ll be effectively a dead ball play most of the time.
50% salary reductions
Jakeem grants knee would be healthy if this was the case the past 2 years
Have the NFL answer this question; then what? These NFL kickoff rule changes sissify the league make the NFL the National Sissy League (NSL) and are a camel's nose under the tent, meaning more to come. Like no more tackles just pulling flags from opposing player carrying the ball (flag football like in grade school), no more heavy blocks at the line of scrimmage with players just standing up to get in the way but no touching. And finally, once all of that is in place, women have to be allowed to play all positions in NSL football to completely 'woke' the sport.
Wait how would this stop touchbacks if the ball is kicked to the endzone
It won't. BUT the kicking team is encouraged to keep it in the landing zone. If the ball is downed in the landing zone, the spot will be on the 20. If the ball is downed in the endzone, it will be spotted on the 30.
It doesn't _stop_ touchbacks, it just makes them slightly more costly for the kicking team: 30 yard line rather than the 25. The new rules introduce some strategy options into kickoffs and returns by special teams coordinators. Lull a team to sleep with several touchbacks, and then kickoff to the 15-yard line, while organizing blockers to clear a path for gunners, etc.
Until they realize after the first week that the average kick return will get out to the 45 yard line like it did in the XFL. Teams will just kick it into the endzone lol.
The host looks AI generated 😅
How does this change onside kickoffs?
you just have to declare it first which eliminates "surprise onside kicks", but honestly that never really happened anyway... the onside would take place from the same spot as usual, except they changed the 5x5 formation rule, so you're now again allowed to load one side with 6 guys, theoretically increasing the possibility of a recovery
@@mattcarberry368thanks
No more *surprise* onside kicks, _and_ onside kicks may only be attempted in the *4th quarter* of regulation
Why is this a rule for the regular season and not a test for the preseason?
They have tried that in the past. Coaches insisted that they don't want to waste their limited preseason contact practice days for rules frameworks that are not going to be used during the regular season
Why not just eliminate the kickoff all together? There's really no point to it now.
They just inducted Devin Hester into the HOF as a kick returner. They’re not gonna take it away this year but yes expect it to be a extinct play in the next 5-10 years
Raiders suck! BoltUp!
This this this sweet baby Jesus this. End it already!
They need to get you to watch ads before and after the play. No kickoff means less ads.
@@johnlicciardello2389 oh they’ll have no problem fitting the same amount of ads in…or more.
Madden is going to be crazy
Goodbye onside kicks.
The new rules suck...They needs top stop F-ing with the game!!!
The hip drop tackle is dumb how about the running stops running hard then. So he don't hurt himself. Stupid.
Mannnnnn... They sure are making a wuss out of the NFL... Just like in any other sports, there is risks of injury... If you are afraid of getting hurt, don't play, simple as that... I am old school but hey... The risks go with the territory... When the NFL first started rules for quarterbacks they forgot about the skirts and tutu's the quarterbacks should be wearing during the games...
NFL becoming the PPL.
Might as well just eliminate the kickoff and put the ball on the other teams 25 yard line if safety is the REAL reason. Look, football is a physical sport and the more you try and make the sport "safer" the more you are unintentionally making football not football.
yeah why not just cancel football altogether and never play another game if they care so much about safety?? lol get a grip, yes it's a physical sport but this rule change is to ENCOURAGE MORE RETURNS and encourage more action in special teams play, but it seems the only thing "fans" love more than football is whining about how they hate everything football does lol i don't get it.... this rule is LITERALLY making football more about football, unless ceremonial kickoffs for touchbacks were a big deal to you?
Who came up with this mess.
I hope with all this bullshit that the pay for the players goes down to 20 dollars an hour since they are doing nothing that a healthy person can’t do.
This is horrible, good bye to onside kicks
Dumbest rule change ever.... Putting skirts on the players might make it acceptable
Its a gimmick
The refs screw up enough in rhe games and favor kc enough with kut adding somrhing else to it to nake it harder
Terrible "explanation."
It's all about gambling. Gambling is going to make all the new rules for the nfl.
These guys sure are becoming softer and softer every episode.
What it means? It means that the games will be less enjoyable to watch. Step by step, planned or not, the nfl is ruining the game
I think NFL should have flag football. all these changes are stupid and killing this sport. NFL been hard hitting footballs like 100 years now they want to make it flag football. you never going to stop injuries
Seems I’m in the minority, but I think this is gonna suck
So XFL rule…