I'll actually back this one cause my finances are in order and it's a massive 1/12 plane which is astoundingly rare for any action figure lines. Sad I missed the cheaper Dragonfly.
One of the complaints expressed in this video is that the gunner is a repaint of Wild Weasel (it’s not), and not a completely new figure. It would make complete sense, and it wouldn’t bother me in the least, if his body was a repaint. These are aviator figures wearing flight suits. Look at modern military aviators. How much variation do you see in their flight suits and gear? With the exception of their helmets, almost none.
"It's Patch'n Time!" I saw one quote from Sookah that I want to back up. Action Force F-22. Dew it! Also, Mike Honcho lives rent free in all our collective heads.
Did nobody bring up how Wild Weasel’s maps on his legs are upside down? They’re supposed to face him, not the floor. Awesome show, guys. I was having dinner with Greg from Cotswold so I had to miss out on the live.
You guys do realize that the figures, accessories, vehicles all are prototypes and digital renderings, right? There is so much more fine-tuning and quality control that will go on before these start rolling off the assembly line. Listen to Lenny talk about how they will get several prototyoes of something and tweak the design to get it as perfect as possible before approving the final prototype for production. It’s why there has been a delay with the Dragonfly. They noticed something that needed to be tweaked to get it as perfect as they could. This caused a bit of a delay. But, they decided that a delay in order to get fans the best product they could was (obviously) better than shipping an inferior product.
Great show!!! I agree (I mean, who doesn’t) that the Rattler is a bit overpriced and those patches really have a Rancor tier smell to them…so ridiculous. I of course backed it because I’m a Joe mark but the price point & patches criticisms are objectively justified. Period. Maybe it cost $325 because the blast/missile effects are actually done correctly for a change…it must have cost extra money to determine the direction of how flames/smoke work 🤣. I’m slowly working thru by backlog of shows to catch up on, I appreciate the entertainment as always guys 🤘🏻
Damn. Bought 2 Vanguards and Joe fans told me I was stupid for supporting a jerk. I ignored them. I wanted the Vanguards. Now, Bobby is calling me a sucker for buying something I want from Hasbro. I have to ignore him also. I guess supporting the making of toys will always make me a sucker in someone’s eyes. 😂
There is also no retro canopy with the rattler like the hiss tank came with and they took a figure away and replaced it with something cheap (patchs) this is the most expensive classified haslab and it comes with the least amount of stuff and now that it funded and all stretch goals were met (I believe it closed out somewhere around 23,000 backers) they will never include 4 figures with a haslab again
(3POA) PATCHES!!! HELL YEAH! I was going to get PVC morale patches made but they wanted $10 each with a minimum order of 10. I'm not a baller like that! But man I'm IN for a 3poa patch! Make them morale style, the rectangles! ok and yes the rattler patches are cool too. Shouldn't have been an unlock though.
We need a vehicle that hold multiple figures. Ie. Hyrdafoil. Whale. Even the apc as a carrier. Doesn’t mean all basic vehicle need to be haslab but something to store and set up figures
I agree with most of what Bobby said and I understand the logic behind his reasoning. But living in Europe I've to admit I look differently at his price comparisons with the Vanguard and such. And yes, I did order a Vanguard. Fact is that the lack of international distribution makes that a Vanguard costs me as much in the end as a Rattler. I guess that gives me a different perspective on things (everything is simply expensive to us) and makes me a little bit more forgiving towards Hasbro (doesn't mean they are not greedy assholes). So yeah, I backed it and don't really feel bad about it. 🙂 That 6 inch Deadpool Taco Van would have been a genius move! 😀 Any chance you'll cover the BS that's going on with McFarlane's distribution and policies these days?
Rest assured, Bobby is TRYING to get better distribution through a retailer in Europe. So it isn’t for lack of trying or apathy on his part. Absolutely back and buy whatever you like. 👍🏻 I’ll need to learn more about the McFarlane issue. First I’ve heard of it.
@@3POAPodcast Hope Bobby does the same in Southeast Asia too. AF has a lot of fans here, and I'd like to get a Vanguard (or any future AF vehicle) without the high shipping costs
Damn you guys caught the rona? I was fine! Then again I only went 2 days. Glad you guys had fun! And in REALLY glad you decided to come down anyway even if some RV guy screwed you! 😅
I’ve watched quite a few of Bobby’s videos where he talks about Hasbro and how crappy they are. This all comes across as sour grapes. I totally get someone being upset because they were laid off from a job they loved. But it seems like Bobby’s whole existence now is to spite Hasbro - even to the point of purchasing the Action Force name, which was owned by Hasbro and the Steel Corps name, which was the name of a G.I. Joe figure. Then Bobby goes on to launch his own figure line, which is directly inspired by G.I. Joe (which is totally fine), but instead of doing his own, original, characters he makes cheap knockoff of already established figures (Pandora is a direct ripoff of Zarana , Covert Ops Condor is a direct ripoff of Chuckles and Sgt. Slaughter is, well….Sgt. Slaughter). The story Bobby has created in the comics that support the Action Force line is rich with possibilities. Bobby would be better served by focusing on original characters and not bashing Hasbro at every turn. The Hasbro bashing really does give the appearance of sour grapes, and it also makes it look like he is bashing Hasbro to draw attention to his own figure line.
You see Bobby on 3POA for about 4 hours per month. Wtf do you think he’s doing with all his other time? Try to have some perspective. 3POA is a FRACTION of a FRACTION of his time. Bobby didn’t “purchase” the Action Force name, or the “Steel Brigade”(not Steel Corps) name. He registered the trademarks because Hasbro stupidly let them go. It was all legal and above board. He literally made original characters. Steel Brigade is 100% an original design. Sgt Slaughter isn’t and was NEVER owned by GI Joe or WWE, it was LICENSED from Robert Remus. You calling them “cheap knock offs” sounds like… wait for it… sour grapes. Is Zarana a lesbian, Irish gangster? Oh… so having colored hair means it’s a knock off? Try again pal. That’s a STRETCH. Covert Ops Condor is a direct tribute to Casino Royal Daniel Craig James Bond. And Chuckles is actually a direct rip-off of Magnum PI. So, try again. It’s really weird that you guys only hear Bobby’s criticism of Hasbro, a company which he has first hand experience working for(You Don’t). Please get your facts straight before you show your whole ass in my comments again.
@@3POAPodcast I never said, suggested or implied that his acquisition of the trademarks was anything other than legal and above board. To suggest I did is disingenuous at best. The acquisition was a smart business move. But to say he isn’t drawing inspiration directly from G.I. Joe seems to me to also be disingenuous. Why do the Steel Brigade figures look remarkably similar to the original G.I. Joe Steel Brigade figures? Coincidence? Why do Pandora and Covert Ops Condor look remarkably similar to Zarana and Chuckles? Coincidence? Why did he make a Sgt. Slaughter figure when Sgt. Slaughter has a long established history as a G.I. Joe figure? Coincidence? Why has he recently made another character, Sehshi, that is remarkably similar to the G.I. Joe figure Budo (the original name for Senshi was Buddah, which is remarkably similar sounding to Budo)? Coincidence? I’m not knocking the guy for starting his own toy company, which is an accomplishment in itself in today’s toy market. Most of the figures, despite some having remarkable similarities to G.I. Joe figures, look amazing. If you showed the figures I mentioned side by side to someone who has never seen any of the figures before, they would see the obvious similarities. This is a lot of coincidences for a toy line that’s only existed for a few years. One coincidence can be easily explained away. But it gets harder and harder with each one. How do you explain away five??
A little clicker to turn the lights on and off would of been nice especially if you have it hanging from the ceiling and not a expensive thing to throw in
This Haslab did something very different, there's actually figures on display. So what's going to take a year? Better question if the tooling is already done, then why is there tiers?
@@el_covfefe I used to work on tool and die, for a jewelry company. With the advancements in CAD, 3-D modeling, CNC, and such, I really don't understand the time frame. We used to do NFL and NBA championship rings, which were all done by HAND, and that was a much more time consuming, especially considering the advancements in the feild. Just my .02
I was definitely telling Eric at the black series section to do an xwing haslab. Told him to stop doing lightsabers for characters who suck, and make what we are asking for! Told him to look at the joe team over there KILLING IT with vehicles! DO IT!!!! He was reluctant but he knew i was right. So if they do a black series haslab xwing... you're all welcome 😁
It’s overpriced but I really want it. Luckily i’m not a completionist and i really don’t collect a ton of other lines. I can afford to be ripped off once a year. When they get to less popular vehicles I may pass on those if i feel it’s not worth it to me.
Great stream guys, I will admit I was tempted by the Rattler but I did the math & here on Hasbro pulse EU it's 370 euro's basically 400 US without shipping. Even with customs & shipping that would get me 3 Swarm Locust's. I would really love Bobby to do something like the Rattler maybe a Action Force Black Hawk helicopter , yes it would be big but so what?. Bobby doing a 'Hasl;ab scale' vehicle priced around 250-300 & seeing how much better he can do it then Hasbro. P.S can't wait for my Vanguard's to arrive.
Rya is a great host and Bobby has insights on the toy industry that VERY few possess. I love it when you talk about what is working and not working with valaverse and the toy line 1. I would love to hear more about what companies doing to make toys relevant to more than just a niche community (looking at gen x men as that community! 😁) 2. The “outrage” model(aka- finding people that disagree with each other on the internet and then being “surprised” that someone said something dumb or is a fanatic of a company) is wearing pretty thin for me. And yeah. I realize that it is possible to say the exact same thing of this post
1. I don’t know. 2. What? We find people disagreeing with each other on the internet be then being surprised they said something stupid…? And that’s what you’re doing with this post? Could you please explain that better? I’m not following what you’re saying.
@@3POAPodcast explaining 2 quite a bit of this video was talking about how dumb many people are for blindly supporting hasbro, how awful hasbro is as a company, and how dumb it is that hasbro crowd funds. now maybe you aren't trying to "stir the pot" so to speak, but its a pretty common tactic in the RUclips world to talk about how dumb a group of people is to create outrage, to get views and clicks. and finding those people that will be "outraged" or mad (or whatever)is pretty easy to do. and then the RUclips live stream can bash those people that are outraged. and people can comment about how stupid they were for ever saying something "that dumb" and sure, you could say, "well we need to call dumb behavior out" fine... but there will always be someone on the internet that exhibits dumb behavior (and maybe that is ME at this moment). it just seems to me, that it is pandering to the lowest common denominator. I guess I would rather hear about toys than how stupid people are for blindly following Habro.
@@bryanheinrich371 yes! I agree with that sentiment wholeheartedly. It serve no purpose other than to create content. Focus on the toys! I’m a HUGE G.I. Joe fan, so what Hasbro has been doing with the Classified line resonates with me. I also really like several of the Action Force figures despite big similarities to some G.I. Joes. Collectors will buy a product if they think it’s worth their money - it’s why the Rattler was fully funded so fast, it’s why I’ll get one and it’s why I’m on the verge of buying an Action Force Vanguard.
Raise the price $50 and take away a figure. Next one will be $400 and they will take away another figure. Patches are a HUGE middle finger and spin. Hasbro loves it, they even get to save lube money!
Not sure I’ll buy this haslab. 330 is kinda high. Looks less than the dragonfly which was cheaper and more figures. Screw the patches. Maybe Emily made that an idea?! Whomever it was needs to have their head screwed back on
If it weren’t for Nostalgia, I wouldn’t buy Classifieds. If this were a new IP introduced today, I wouldn’t have any interest, especially with all the QC and distribution issues.
Sorry I missed this. I was actually at the movies watching Deadpool and Wolverine. Loved hearing Bobby talked about how crap the unlock tears for this Rattler are. Wish I could have been here to Super Chat you guys, because I would have loved to have heard Bobby's take on 40 for the Deadpool movie Colossus figure. 40 bucks for a 7 in figure with only two sets of hands two heads and a book.
I backed it also but nothing said of the nature of this Haslab do I disagree with nor the corporate reasoning for the tiers and pricing. I just don’t think I’ll back any others in the future if they play this game giving less value with the actual vehicle but bumping the price up. There’s no way patches should have ever been a tier it should have been an upsell for people who just want to have that fixture but it does nothing to add value to the vehicle nor the figs included.
Look I love both of your channels. Bobby I got most of your figures. But you wouldn’t be anywhere without Gi joe am I wrong? Patches definitely a rip off for sure. Price definitely a rip off for sure. But here is also obviously facts….you are jealous. You would literally not have a business if Gi Joe did not exist. Love yall but come on
Bobby is a huge GI Joe fan. His GI Joe collection is massive, and he’s been collecting since he was a kid. Criticizing and making fun of Classified series isn’t “being jealous”. But it doesn’t really matter what I say, you’re going to think what you want and run with that.
1. You may be late to the game but I developed the first iteration of 6” GI Joe in 2016. 2. My Kickstarter funded before classified was announced so it was proved before classified. So, your comment is incorrect.
I have to applaud Bobby for going in so hard on what companies like Ramen toys are doing. I think Ace is a great guy too and I would never say a negative word about him personally but I think his business model is rotten to the core. Bobby's right he shouldn't be raping other people's IPS just because he can.
They made it sound like missles are accessories. Really?! That’s part of the plane and already mostly reuse for blast effects. This plane should be 289$
It's funny because I just listened to the yeshavesome pod and they said the exact opposite about being stewarts of the hobby. They claim that they have no responsibilities to the collectors and that if you can't afford it too bad. I don't understand why they want prices to remain high so that they can keep gatekeeping. I understand high prices for high quality but companies should strive to have a range as to allow for collectors of all financial possibilities. WWE is a great example. They have 7 inch figures in all possible price points and still have impecable quality.
I backed the Hiss Tank delayed. I backed the Dragonfly delayed. I bet this will be delayed. No way will I fall for the bullshit again! Hasbro is just enjoying the interest of our money. The patches is just a smack in the face to the people who back this. Im not that stupid to let them get me a 3rd time.
The reason is not at retail is because the retailers won't buy it. Like you saw in your previous hunt video 70% of Wal-Marts do not even carry Classifieds, by this time next year your video will be harping on the fact that classified is not even sold at Wal-Marts at all. Once Wal-Mart completely discontinues carrying Classifieds how long is it till Target quits buying Classified? I hate having to crowdfund but with evil corporate executives making decisions and diversifying their revenue to where ALL TOYS not just action figures is only 20% or so of their current revenue stream, what else do we expect from corporations? I hate having to buy from corporations but unfortunately the licenses I grew up loving are now swallowed by corporations, so no choice. I hope I am wrong but I really feel that Classified will not be running past 2025, that the line will end then.
You nailed it with what you said. I've seen Walmarts with the same figures rotting on pegs. No gijoe either. Those got put on clearance and nothing new on pegs since. Star wars, marvel...the same. Maybe one or two new figures...rest rotting on pegs.
McFarlane and their new big Batmobile, gigantic Mattel dinosaurs, Captain Carters shield, Spin Master playsets and vehicles. All of these examples prove you wrong. Retail will take it. Hasbro likes Haslab because it cuts out the middle man, allows them to inflate the price, and take more profit.
@@Blastcanon kids buy Jurassic park with new movies and Netflix cartoons, batman has new cartoon on Amazon, and that batmobile is not at Walmart only at a small percentage of targets. When was the last anything gi joe anything? Walmart has stopped carrying classifieds at 70% of their stores why do you think their MEGACORPORATE buyers are going to buy any large gi joe items. Target clearances out every price point why would they buy a higher price point?
I only want that Baroness lol. Its a good looking plane i just dont have room for vehicles, and even if i did anything over 250$ for this Haslab aint worth it.
Nostalgia bait at its finest-new low for hasblo…haslab should have all new sculpts and tooling for everything offered in a haslab but it’s not…NO FOMO, but those who backed it, enjoy….
I swear this show is the lowest form of podcasting.. is the rattler perfect..by no means is it perfect..but Bobby continues to cry and wine about hasbro acting like the bitter x girlfriend who was dumped...the act is old ..be better..act better...and complaining and talking crap about how much profit is being made...they are a toy COMPANY..their goal is to MAKE MONEY..same as your goal...it makes you sound bitter...stop acting like clowns and use your platforms responsibly
This podcast is incredibly entertaining. No, the rattler isn’t perfect. We talked about that. Bobby literally said Hasbro is a company whose goal is to make a profit. There was no whining or crying, there was laughing and joking. The whining and crying came from your end, in your comment. The reason? Because you’re too immature to handle hearing someone criticize a toy you like. You’re a child. Grow up. We’re going to continue to have fun and poke fun and not take this shit too seriously. We’ll leave that to Hasbro worshipping fan boys like you.
@3POAPodcast sounds like I struck a cord.. criticism is ok.. I have most of the same.issues with the Rattler as most people do.. but this just sounds like sour grapes..which has been all too typical for this podcast...but hey I get it ..negative videos and trashing things gets the subscribers..the super chats...the membership fees and the views....
@@timberry4250 Display them how you like. You spent the money on them, so enjoy them however you like. For me, it’s pointless to keep toys in the box. Toys are meant to be played with. I open every toy I buy.
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We should all strive to love ourselves as much as bobby vala loves bobby vala. It's inspiring.
Lol
He's just one of those inspirational kinda guys. Saw his shot. Took it. Succeeded.
@@LoganWood121but, the sad thing is that his ranting about Hasbro and lack of originality does not serve him well.
@@zombiesmith5735 Idk. He seems pretty well served. These 'rants' aren't really a thing.
@@LoganWood121 I’m just saying that his toy line should stand on its own - he doesn’t need to verbally bash other companies.
i love bobby's honesty he doesn't caddy coat stuff love it
I'll actually back this one cause my finances are in order and it's a massive 1/12 plane which is astoundingly rare for any action figure lines. Sad I missed the cheaper Dragonfly.
Need to have a tier that’s a vehicle or mechanic kinda thing vs patches. Maybe a missle wagon or a portable command center kinda thing
28:20 😂 This is why Vala episodes is best episodes.
First time checking your channel out. Great show I’ll definitely be watching more.
Thanks and welcome to the channel
Good to see Hasbro still lives rent free in Bobby’s head.
And he in yours. 😁
One of the complaints expressed in this video is that the gunner is a repaint of Wild Weasel (it’s not), and not a completely new figure. It would make complete sense, and it wouldn’t bother me in the least, if his body was a repaint. These are aviator figures wearing flight suits. Look at modern military aviators. How much variation do you see in their flight suits and gear? With the exception of their helmets, almost none.
Listen to the whole show before leaving uninformed comments.
"It's Patch'n Time!" I saw one quote from Sookah that I want to back up. Action Force F-22. Dew it!
Also,
Mike Honcho lives rent free in all our collective heads.
I backed it but those patches was a big disappointment! I would rather pay 350 and have 4 figures.
Same here.
Or $300 and skip the damn patches.
lol it actually comes with a baroness pin up girl style sticker 😂😂
Did nobody bring up how Wild Weasel’s maps on his legs are upside down? They’re supposed to face him, not the floor.
Awesome show, guys. I was having dinner with Greg from Cotswold so I had to miss out on the live.
Bobby mentioned it
@@3POAPodcast good man 🤙🏼
Damn I hadn't seen them up close/zoomed in.
Maybe bad mother tattoo can help...
You guys do realize that the figures, accessories, vehicles all are prototypes and digital renderings, right? There is so much more fine-tuning and quality control that will go on before these start rolling off the assembly line. Listen to Lenny talk about how they will get several prototyoes of something and tweak the design to get it as perfect as possible before approving the final prototype for production. It’s why there has been a delay with the Dragonfly. They noticed something that needed to be tweaked to get it as perfect as they could. This caused a bit of a delay. But, they decided that a delay in order to get fans the best product they could was (obviously) better than shipping an inferior product.
Great show!!! I agree (I mean, who doesn’t) that the Rattler is a bit overpriced and those patches really have a Rancor tier smell to them…so ridiculous. I of course backed it because I’m a Joe mark but the price point & patches criticisms are objectively justified. Period. Maybe it cost $325 because the blast/missile effects are actually done correctly for a change…it must have cost extra money to determine the direction of how flames/smoke work 🤣.
I’m slowly working thru by backlog of shows to catch up on, I appreciate the entertainment as always guys 🤘🏻
Damn. Bought 2 Vanguards and Joe fans told me I was stupid for supporting a jerk. I ignored them. I wanted the Vanguards. Now, Bobby is calling me a sucker for buying something I want from Hasbro. I have to ignore him also. I guess supporting the making of toys will always make me a sucker in someone’s eyes. 😂
He’s called me much worse! 😂
@@3POAPodcast But you probably deserved it. 😁 What did you do to Bobby?
The next haslab should be the whale or hydrafoil
@@ralphvaderguy6860 The Havok...🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
They said they arent doing boats.
There is also no retro canopy with the rattler like the hiss tank came with and they took a figure away and replaced it with something cheap (patchs) this is the most expensive classified haslab and it comes with the least amount of stuff and now that it funded and all stretch goals were met (I believe it closed out somewhere around 23,000 backers) they will never include 4 figures with a haslab again
Replay squad checking in awesome show
Shocked it wasn’t a alphabet soup troop
Why not have an ejection seat from the rattler like the old planes in the 3.75 line
(3POA) PATCHES!!! HELL YEAH! I was going to get PVC morale patches made but they wanted $10 each with a minimum order of 10. I'm not a baller like that! But man I'm IN for a 3poa patch! Make them morale style, the rectangles!
ok and yes the rattler patches are cool too. Shouldn't have been an unlock though.
We need a vehicle that hold multiple figures. Ie. Hyrdafoil. Whale. Even the apc as a carrier. Doesn’t mean all basic vehicle need to be haslab but something to store and set up figures
I agree with most of what Bobby said and I understand the logic behind his reasoning. But living in Europe I've to admit I look differently at his price comparisons with the Vanguard and such. And yes, I did order a Vanguard. Fact is that the lack of international distribution makes that a Vanguard costs me as much in the end as a Rattler. I guess that gives me a different perspective on things (everything is simply expensive to us) and makes me a little bit more forgiving towards Hasbro (doesn't mean they are not greedy assholes). So yeah, I backed it and don't really feel bad about it. 🙂
That 6 inch Deadpool Taco Van would have been a genius move! 😀
Any chance you'll cover the BS that's going on with McFarlane's distribution and policies these days?
Rest assured, Bobby is TRYING to get better distribution through a retailer in Europe. So it isn’t for lack of trying or apathy on his part.
Absolutely back and buy whatever you like. 👍🏻
I’ll need to learn more about the McFarlane issue. First I’ve heard of it.
@@3POAPodcast Hope Bobby does the same in Southeast Asia too. AF has a lot of fans here, and I'd like to get a Vanguard (or any future AF vehicle) without the high shipping costs
Wait a minute... the rattler comes with 2 jet plume effects? IT HAS 3 ENGINES! dammit, hasbro...
I wonder how much they saved by not including that third one. Short changing the fans on a $325 plane.
@markd9803 maybe sookah can just make 3 good ones for us.
Speaking of stupid prices at SDCC, i saw a guy selling action force for double and triple of figures STILL ON THE WEBSITE! 😂
Ignorance is expensive.
I haven't backed the rattler yet, because, well how my bank account works is... see I got my checking, and then my savings...
Damn you guys caught the rona? I was fine! Then again I only went 2 days. Glad you guys had fun! And in REALLY glad you decided to come down anyway even if some RV guy screwed you! 😅
Lol
Gi joe line was basically made from remolds to a certain point. The problem is hasbro is acting like Gi joe won’t sell unless they have preorders.
I’ve watched quite a few of Bobby’s videos where he talks about Hasbro and how crappy they are. This all comes across as sour grapes. I totally get someone being upset because they were laid off from a job they loved. But it seems like Bobby’s whole existence now is to spite Hasbro - even to the point of purchasing the Action Force name, which was owned by Hasbro and the Steel Corps name, which was the name of a G.I. Joe figure. Then Bobby goes on to launch his own figure line, which is directly inspired by G.I. Joe (which is totally fine), but instead of doing his own, original, characters he makes cheap knockoff of already established figures (Pandora is a direct ripoff of Zarana , Covert Ops Condor is a direct ripoff of Chuckles and Sgt. Slaughter is, well….Sgt. Slaughter). The story Bobby has created in the comics that support the Action Force line is rich with possibilities. Bobby would be better served by focusing on original characters and not bashing Hasbro at every turn. The Hasbro bashing really does give the appearance of sour grapes, and it also makes it look like he is bashing Hasbro to draw attention to his own figure line.
You see Bobby on 3POA for about 4 hours per month. Wtf do you think he’s doing with all his other time? Try to have some perspective. 3POA is a FRACTION of a FRACTION of his time.
Bobby didn’t “purchase” the Action Force name, or the “Steel Brigade”(not Steel Corps) name. He registered the trademarks because Hasbro stupidly let them go. It was all legal and above board.
He literally made original characters. Steel Brigade is 100% an original design. Sgt Slaughter isn’t and was NEVER owned by GI Joe or WWE, it was LICENSED from Robert Remus. You calling them “cheap knock offs” sounds like… wait for it… sour grapes.
Is Zarana a lesbian, Irish gangster? Oh… so having colored hair means it’s a knock off? Try again pal. That’s a STRETCH.
Covert Ops Condor is a direct tribute to Casino Royal Daniel Craig James Bond. And Chuckles is actually a direct rip-off of Magnum PI. So, try again.
It’s really weird that you guys only hear Bobby’s criticism of Hasbro, a company which he has first hand experience working for(You Don’t).
Please get your facts straight before you show your whole ass in my comments again.
@@3POAPodcast I never said, suggested or implied that his acquisition of the trademarks was anything other than legal and above board. To suggest I did is disingenuous at best. The acquisition was a smart business move. But to say he isn’t drawing inspiration directly from G.I. Joe seems to me to also be disingenuous. Why do the Steel Brigade figures look remarkably similar to the original G.I. Joe Steel Brigade figures? Coincidence? Why do Pandora and Covert Ops Condor look remarkably similar to Zarana and Chuckles? Coincidence? Why did he make a Sgt. Slaughter figure when Sgt. Slaughter has a long established history as a G.I. Joe figure? Coincidence? Why has he recently made another character, Sehshi, that is remarkably similar to the G.I. Joe figure Budo (the original name for Senshi was Buddah, which is remarkably similar sounding to Budo)? Coincidence? I’m not knocking the guy for starting his own toy company, which is an accomplishment in itself in today’s toy market. Most of the figures, despite some having remarkable similarities to G.I. Joe figures, look amazing. If you showed the figures I mentioned side by side to someone who has never seen any of the figures before, they would see the obvious similarities. This is a lot of coincidences for a toy line that’s only existed for a few years. One coincidence can be easily explained away. But it gets harder and harder with each one. How do you explain away five??
The 1st tier should be a parachute or the glider. Easily
A little clicker to turn the lights on and off would of been nice especially if you have it hanging from the ceiling and not a expensive thing to throw in
No babies in the house….Honcho’s getting down 😂
This Haslab did something very different, there's actually figures on display. So what's going to take a year? Better question if the tooling is already done, then why is there tiers?
I doubt the tooling is done. Way too early for that.
@@el_covfefe I used to work on tool and die, for a jewelry company. With the advancements in CAD, 3-D modeling, CNC, and such, I really don't understand the time frame. We used to do NFL and NBA championship rings, which were all done by HAND, and that was a much more time consuming, especially considering the advancements in the feild. Just my .02
Those are the prototypes.
If anything the rattler should have been 259 with these tiers. It’s an army build vehicle. 329& with 3 figures and patches is absurd
I think the only vehicles that aren't army builders would be thunder machine and triple t. HISS is absolutely an Army builder and it was PRICEY.
I was definitely telling Eric at the black series section to do an xwing haslab. Told him to stop doing lightsabers for characters who suck, and make what we are asking for! Told him to look at the joe team over there KILLING IT with vehicles! DO IT!!!! He was reluctant but he knew i was right.
So if they do a black series haslab xwing... you're all welcome 😁
Caught the replay
I wanna know who has shelf space for that rattler??? I don't...lol
I need more shelves!
From what I can see behind ya...I think you need to add on to the house...lol!
You’re not wrong!
It’s overpriced but I really want it. Luckily i’m not a completionist and i really don’t collect a ton of other lines. I can afford to be ripped off once a year. When they get to less popular vehicles I may pass on those if i feel it’s not worth it to me.
Great stream guys, I will admit I was tempted by the Rattler but I did the math & here on Hasbro pulse EU it's 370 euro's basically 400 US without shipping. Even with customs & shipping that would get me 3 Swarm Locust's. I would really love Bobby to do something like the Rattler maybe a Action Force Black Hawk helicopter , yes it would be big but so what?. Bobby doing a 'Hasl;ab scale' vehicle priced around 250-300 & seeing how much better he can do it then Hasbro. P.S can't wait for my Vanguard's to arrive.
I’d love a black hawk!
Valaverse should make a character/Figure
Call sign PATCHES Real Name DWIGHT WHITE
He could be the Action force Mechanic character
Rya is a great host and Bobby has insights on the toy industry that VERY few possess. I love it when you talk about what is working and not working with valaverse and the toy line
1. I would love to hear more about what companies doing to make toys relevant to more than just a niche community (looking at gen x men as that community! 😁)
2. The “outrage” model(aka- finding people that disagree with each other on the internet and then being “surprised” that someone said something dumb or is a fanatic of a company) is wearing pretty thin for me. And yeah. I realize that it is possible to say the exact same thing of this post
1. I don’t know.
2. What? We find people disagreeing with each other on the internet be then being surprised they said something stupid…? And that’s what you’re doing with this post?
Could you please explain that better? I’m not following what you’re saying.
@@3POAPodcast explaining 2
quite a bit of this video was talking about how dumb many people are for blindly supporting hasbro, how awful hasbro is as a company, and how dumb it is that hasbro crowd funds.
now maybe you aren't trying to "stir the pot" so to speak, but its a pretty common tactic in the RUclips world to talk about how dumb a group of people is to create outrage, to get views and clicks. and finding those people that will be "outraged" or mad (or whatever)is pretty easy to do. and then the RUclips live stream can bash those people that are outraged. and people can comment about how stupid they were for ever saying something "that dumb"
and sure, you could say, "well we need to call dumb behavior out" fine... but there will always be someone on the internet that exhibits dumb behavior (and maybe that is ME at this moment). it just seems to me, that it is pandering to the lowest common denominator. I guess I would rather hear about toys than how stupid people are for blindly following Habro.
And you believe this is by design..? Or this is our “big plan”?
@@3POAPodcast I don't know, I just know I would rather hear about toys than how stupid people are that blindly follow hasbro
@@bryanheinrich371 yes! I agree with that sentiment wholeheartedly. It serve no purpose other than to create content. Focus on the toys! I’m a HUGE G.I. Joe fan, so what Hasbro has been doing with the Classified line resonates with me. I also really like several of the Action Force figures despite big similarities to some G.I. Joes. Collectors will buy a product if they think it’s worth their money - it’s why the Rattler was fully funded so fast, it’s why I’ll get one and it’s why I’m on the verge of buying an Action Force Vanguard.
Replay Squad here!!!
I just want a Wild Weasel figure, not a 3 ft. plastic airplane to go with him. 😂
Raise the price $50 and take away a figure. Next one will be $400 and they will take away another figure. Patches are a HUGE middle finger and spin. Hasbro loves it, they even get to save lube money!
I’ll save my money for the new figures coming out
Hiss was the pilot and was great and love the product.
Not sure I’ll buy this haslab. 330 is kinda high. Looks less than the dragonfly which was cheaper and more figures. Screw the patches. Maybe Emily made that an idea?! Whomever it was needs to have their head screwed back on
If u subtract 25 per fig off the past haslab. U get the gist
It was most kind of Bobby to have free shipping on the Vanguard. Looking forward to seeing Mafex's Doomsday. Great duo livestream Ryan. 🙂
Shark plane was kool back in the day.
I buy the shit and WE ARE GETTING RIPPED OFF. Nostalgia is the strongest drug.
If it weren’t for Nostalgia, I wouldn’t buy Classifieds. If this were a new IP introduced today, I wouldn’t have any interest, especially with all the QC and distribution issues.
Sorry I missed this. I was actually at the movies watching Deadpool and Wolverine. Loved hearing Bobby talked about how crap the unlock tears for this Rattler are. Wish I could have been here to Super Chat you guys, because I would have loved to have heard Bobby's take on 40 for the Deadpool movie Colossus figure. 40 bucks for a 7 in figure with only two sets of hands two heads and a book.
Hasbro got greedy on this one ….well greedier then usually
I could see pandora on a Buell or Ducati. Some sort of sport vtwin or street fighter. Not Japanese though.
I want a patch
I backed it also but nothing said of the nature of this Haslab do I disagree with nor the corporate reasoning for the tiers and pricing.
I just don’t think I’ll back any others in the future if they play this game giving less value with the actual vehicle but bumping the price up. There’s no way patches should have ever been a tier it should have been an upsell for people who just want to have that fixture but it does nothing to add value to the vehicle nor the figs included.
I’ll pay 379 for a whale with 5 figures and an extra pod vehicle.
Look I love both of your channels. Bobby I got most of your figures. But you wouldn’t be anywhere without Gi joe am I wrong? Patches definitely a rip off for sure. Price definitely a rip off for sure. But here is also obviously facts….you are jealous. You would literally not have a business if Gi Joe did not exist. Love yall but come on
Bobby is a huge GI Joe fan. His GI Joe collection is massive, and he’s been collecting since he was a kid. Criticizing and making fun of Classified series isn’t “being jealous”.
But it doesn’t really matter what I say, you’re going to think what you want and run with that.
1. You may be late to the game but I developed the first iteration of 6” GI Joe in 2016.
2. My Kickstarter funded before classified was announced so it was proved before classified. So, your comment is incorrect.
I have to applaud Bobby for going in so hard on what companies like Ramen toys are doing. I think Ace is a great guy too and I would never say a negative word about him personally but I think his business model is rotten to the core. Bobby's right he shouldn't be raping other people's IPS just because he can.
They made it sound like missles are accessories. Really?! That’s part of the plane and already mostly reuse for blast effects. This plane should be 289$
They can get away with it because the Hiss tank did it.
@@ralphvaderguy6860 missiles, rockets, etc. have called accessories ever since the original 80’s toy line.
It's funny because I just listened to the yeshavesome pod and they said the exact opposite about being stewarts of the hobby. They claim that they have no responsibilities to the collectors and that if you can't afford it too bad. I don't understand why they want prices to remain high so that they can keep gatekeeping. I understand high prices for high quality but companies should strive to have a range as to allow for collectors of all financial possibilities. WWE is a great example. They have 7 inch figures in all possible price points and still have impecable quality.
So many people are only out for #1.
@@3POAPodcast I agree. They let the most minor amount of luck and privilege corrupt them.
@@3POAPodcast And you’re not? When you guys start sharing any money you make from this channel with your viewers, then you can ride that high horse.
@@durant100 LOL, the adults are talking, durant. Go back to your Nintendo.
@@LaserPantsAh, insults. Always the mark of an adult.
They knocked up the price 30 bucks to make up some cash flow. And the Sdcc was bland
The gunner is bland
I backed the Hiss Tank delayed.
I backed the Dragonfly delayed.
I bet this will be delayed.
No way will I fall for the bullshit again! Hasbro is just enjoying the interest of our money. The patches is just a smack in the face to the people who back this. Im not that stupid to let them get me a 3rd time.
It’s annoying when they are having a new Haslab, when you haven’t even got the previous in hand yet.
The reason is not at retail is because the retailers won't buy it. Like you saw in your previous hunt video 70% of Wal-Marts do not even carry Classifieds, by this time next year your video will be harping on the fact that classified is not even sold at Wal-Marts at all. Once Wal-Mart completely discontinues carrying Classifieds how long is it till Target quits buying Classified? I hate having to crowdfund but with evil corporate executives making decisions and diversifying their revenue to where ALL TOYS not just action figures is only 20% or so of their current revenue stream, what else do we expect from corporations? I hate having to buy from corporations but unfortunately the licenses I grew up loving are now swallowed by corporations, so no choice. I hope I am wrong but I really feel that Classified will not be running past 2025, that the line will end then.
Also it's a handful of stores that will stock those big box toys like McFarlane Batmobile large boxes because shelf space cost money
You nailed it with what you said. I've seen Walmarts with the same figures rotting on pegs. No gijoe either. Those got put on clearance and nothing new on pegs since. Star wars, marvel...the same. Maybe one or two new figures...rest rotting on pegs.
McFarlane and their new big Batmobile, gigantic Mattel dinosaurs, Captain Carters shield, Spin Master playsets and vehicles. All of these examples prove you wrong. Retail will take it. Hasbro likes Haslab because it cuts out the middle man, allows them to inflate the price, and take more profit.
@@Blastcanon kids buy Jurassic park with new movies and Netflix cartoons, batman has new cartoon on Amazon, and that batmobile is not at Walmart only at a small percentage of targets. When was the last anything gi joe anything? Walmart has stopped carrying classifieds at 70% of their stores why do you think their MEGACORPORATE buyers are going to buy any large gi joe items. Target clearances out every price point why would they buy a higher price point?
Target in KY and Ohio have already stopped carrying Classified sadly.
Why not give us a mechanic?
I only want that Baroness lol.
Its a good looking plane i just dont have room for vehicles, and even if i did anything over 250$ for this Haslab aint worth it.
Nostalgia bait at its finest-new low for hasblo…haslab should have all new sculpts and tooling for everything offered in a haslab but it’s not…NO FOMO, but those who backed it, enjoy….
👍🏼#309...🤝🏼🤝🏼🤝🏼😁
The gunners goggles should have been for barones that goes with the cartoon
Ripofflab
No vehicle should be over 150.
I swear this show is the lowest form of podcasting.. is the rattler perfect..by no means is it perfect..but Bobby continues to cry and wine about hasbro acting like the bitter x girlfriend who was dumped...the act is old ..be better..act better...and complaining and talking crap about how much profit is being made...they are a toy COMPANY..their goal is to MAKE MONEY..same as your goal...it makes you sound bitter...stop acting like clowns and use your platforms responsibly
This podcast is incredibly entertaining. No, the rattler isn’t perfect. We talked about that. Bobby literally said Hasbro is a company whose goal is to make a profit. There was no whining or crying, there was laughing and joking. The whining and crying came from your end, in your comment. The reason? Because you’re too immature to handle hearing someone criticize a toy you like. You’re a child. Grow up.
We’re going to continue to have fun and poke fun and not take this shit too seriously. We’ll leave that to Hasbro worshipping fan boys like you.
@3POAPodcast sounds like I struck a cord.. criticism is ok.. I have most of the same.issues with the Rattler as most people do.. but this just sounds like sour grapes..which has been all too typical for this podcast...but hey I get it ..negative videos and trashing things gets the subscribers..the super chats...the membership fees and the views....
…and the engagement from smooth brains such as yourself. Keep coming back. We both know you will. 😉
And yet you listened. Thanks for the views! 🙌🏻
DEI company.
The best way of displaying is to keep in box
Can’t say I agree but to each their own.
@@timberry4250 Display them how you like. You spent the money on them, so enjoy them however you like. For me, it’s pointless to keep toys in the box. Toys are meant to be played with. I open every toy I buy.