11 figures to support a Haslab at the jump is huge and unprecedented. It's a great start and no one can realistically complain that they're not supporting the cantina. They supported the barge over the years with the skiff and additional figures four-five years after the fact. Their track record with Haslab support is excellent and I think a little trust/faith has been earned at this point. I'm eager for the cantina, I have literally every cantina figure made so far. I know not everyone does, but be patient. 11 figures to put in the cantina already is a great, great start.
I appreciate you appreciating the appreciation, making me appreciate you for appreciating BB so much more. So much appreciativeness is making me tear up! 😢😂😂😂
I appreciate Tim’s appreciation of your appreciation for the gratitude the appreciation brought us all in appreciating the potential appreciation of this HasLab in the future when it was under-appreciated during its run and the values appreciate and peope who were on the fence because of lack of appreciation find out they can’t afford it now 😅
I made my own custom cantina last year and bought all the figures in the last two years. They were expensive, but I'm happy I did it because now they're going to be much more expensive.
When I created my Cantina using the Power of the force cardboard setup, I filled it with every produced figure thus far and it cost me nearly a grand 3 years ago. Now with this Cantina, those figures are going up daily and getting even more rare. We'll see.
Yeah I'm backing this Haslab but not looking forward to having to track all these damn figures I will need. Ain't gonna be cheap everyone rushing for the same figures is making the prices skyrocket no doubt! For a Haslab like this with so many figures needed to fill up the scene they really should do a better job of at least saying look we will reissue some of those legends line figures that are expensive like Tim mentioned. Just saying look we can guarantee if this backs we will reissue or make new figures of at least 10 figures in the next few years! That would go a long way! With them re using old legends molds that can easily be done!
@@StarkIller-df7gwI agree… better yet for $400 you should get the bar set AND all the hard to find figures that were only released once. Like tenacle face, goat head creep, zombie face man and his creepy baby alien arm pet, the brainiac, cyclops, cone horn head, and pink egg head lady
I’ve complained endlessly about the price being far too high, but the more I see of it the more I like the build after an initial bad impression. My finger is hovering over the trigger, and I think a lot of people are in the same boat. Hearing that it is getting future support probably has tipped me over, so thanks for the video
Hey BB, just wanted to thank you for this video. You are a true representative of the TVC community. Thanks for your candour in feeding back to us on this rather odd-sounding Q&A. The Legacy Collection question continues to be a point of much intrigue. One wonders what Q&As will look like going forward. Thanks again, keep up the brilliant work. GA
Just use sawdust for the floor. Like all the rough pubs did back in the day. It was easier to sweep up blood, broken glass and missing teeth at the end of the night. No, really. Pretty appropriate for the cantina with dead Rodians, severed Aqualish arms and whatnot, lol...
Ring the HasLab team for me and tell them unless there's a little battery operated soundboard and speaker in the band's stage module that plays 'The Cantina Theme'..the deal is off. 😁... And it wouldn't kill 'em to make the table lamps light up.
@@ChildOfTheWilderness unfortunately I agree, 11,000 to go seems to be a long stretch with less than two weeks to go! We will be lucky to get greedo. Am afraid!
It feels like this is going to struggle to scrape the funding goal at this point, so I think any discussion about the non-core figure offerings will likely be entirely moot. And as for the base figures. this is Hasbro we are talking about here, remember! If there's money to be made from existing tooling, they sure as hell will rinse it for all it's worth. "We currently have no plans to release..." is their way of giving the answer people want to hear, whilst protecting it's crowd-fund. Because let's face it, if this had no figure offerings, there's no way it'd get close to funding. Prior successful crowd funds have had exclusive "editions" of figures, nothing has had a "unique" figure yet. Barge and Crest figs came out in other forms down the line and I suspect it'll be no different here. Although I'm really glad people are liking this and supporting it, this is a massive disappointment for me. It's horribly plasticy, has no unique features, zero playabililty and aside from the bar, 90 percent consists of one "modular" alcove. The price is criminal.The initial idea of the Haslab was always to produce a "dream" item we simply couldn't get any other way. The Barge is the ultimate example. Crest and Ghost have also been spot on. This just feels like something you'd find filling shelves in Walmart. Star Destroyer, Blockade Runner, or a Home One next time please Hasbros...
Would be better as a Hasbro Pulse themed project where I could buy each Modular Section separately over time. Also, would like a Roof for each Modular Section. But it has to be Reasonably Priced.
Thanks for the rundown and shoutout! This Q&A was done so strangely. I have no idea why they don't want to share the actual video themselves...not to mention sharing a video about a Black Series two-pack of repacks today instead. Seems like it would have cleared up some confusion and helped promote the project, and not put so much pressure on fan sites to attend and get everything totally right, or answer their own readers' confused questions.
Great work Bossk, this q&a does seem all 'Cloak and dagger' and by the sound of it, creates more questions than answers. On the back of the initial postponement. It certainly would have been good to hear about the Legacy Collection cantina patrons, either coming out or not
Very excited now getting closer to being backed 🙌 But this whole Haslab campaign has been botched from the very start and continues to be so by Hasbro … leaks, clarification videos, weak advertising and now this strange ‘cloak and dagger’ Q&A 🤷♂️ If you didn’t know any better you’d think Hasbro are trying to sabotage this thing😄 Thanks Tim mate for keeping us in the loop and bringing much needed clarity 👍🫶
Cheer's Tim thanks the in depth video, I'm so tempted to back! But if we don't get the 17000, backer's were paying £500 deluxe for 3 figures and a diorama, they already said price was based on all tiers, 6 figures, let's hope! 👍
I commented earlier on Lindquist's transcribed post the same thing about the release of the figures outside of the Haslab. Habro: For Wuher and the Tonnika’s, "there are no CURRENT plans" … so that's a maybe. For the other three tiers if we unlock them, "we may or may not" … so also as maybe. Clears it right up! And now that spawns a QFWN so I'll go post that on your last Sunday's video.
This was probably the worst handling of a Haslab. First they leak the photos, then they delay the reveal and then don't give us the full 45 days. I think the higher ups just told them it's Star Wars and we need money. I don't use Twitter/X or Instagram so the only info I got was from facebook people and the You Tube reveal. They are relying on the customers too much. They need to take a step back and focus all of their attention on one Haslab at a time. They should also pay you guys for all the work they should be doing.
If they add a floor !!! Put foot peg on it so the Action Figures can stand up and not get blown over by the Wind !!! Or add two more Action Figures as stretched goals !!!
I hope Momaw makes it to the Retro line where it will be named Hammerhead. I would welcome Another ANH retro 6 pack. Hammerhead, Walrusman, R5-D4,Greedo,Luke X-Wing, Snaggletooth
All starting to smell funny, and for once it isn't me! I'm still on the sand dune regarding this HasLab... thanks for sharing your thoughts on this presentation
This is bizarre. Hasbro marketing is MIA on this HasLab. Nearly all the promotion is being done by fan-sites. I’m sorry you were under pressure to attend - should have been a video on their socials! Get it together Hasbro!
Figures should be exclusive even the tier figures! Those of us fubding the Haslabs are paying for the tooling. We expect then to be limited edition. Not able to reissue them for years to come when we paid for tooling costs & they reap the benefits! Plus having them exclusive keeps the resale price up making them more desirable.
I wouldn't mind splitting a basic one with someone....I just want the front entrance lobby and one seating area, sisters I guess, and the other person would get the bar, bartender Maher and the two other seating areas.
While its unlikely they will re-release the Tonnika sisters outside the haslab, I honestly think they should! Many of us have been wanting these figures for years and when they finally announce them its with the huge caveat that you have to back the haslab! I don't think its fair that if you can't afford the Cantina, you won't be able to get them! Its another big slap in the face to collectors from Hasbro!
Hiya biker I thought the ghost figures were exclusive until,they released them on separate cardbacks albeit with less accessories and different colours I suspect they will release all these figures the same way 😊
Look at the failed Engine of Vengance Haslab. They said the wouldn't and now they have released a failed Haslab exclusive figure in the Black Heart wave. "No plans AT THE MOMENT" means just that. Not right now... but latter? Sure.
@@georgeaitken2719 How ya doin George! Yes, I hope so. Would love to add the Tonika sisters to the collection! I hate the idea of a multi billion dollar company crowdfunding projects, but if its the only way collectors can get a hold of these items, then fair enough. But at least give people the option of a payment plan like sideshow does! If they had a payment plan for this, i'd probably be able to afford it!
@@georgeaitken2719 They will release them outside the Haslab. They said the cardbacks are what they wouldn't reissue. These are figures everyone wants and it would be stupid to never release them again a few years down the line. Plus they'll need to reissue it so they can paint their faces the correct color given these versions are Caucasian and their faces are clearly blue and green on the cardbacks and in the movie.
Thanks very much for the information. Given that it's such a high-end item, the Modular Parts/Alcove walls should be weathered/textured on both sides, (ie including the curved archway entrances on both sides of the bar). Front and Back, so outside/extended dioramas can be set-up and displayed. (ie. A Dewback standing outside weathered walls). Would have been good if the last tier was the 6 figures loose in a box with BW artwork like the Trooper 4-packs they've done recently.
Thanks for the recap, BB. As for your question about the older TLC/TAC cantina figures being reissued, I can answer that for you: They don't have the molds. I know Chris has said in the past that they did, but at this point, I think it's clear they actually don't. The molds for those figures are long gone, so I think it's time for people to stop hoping for a reissue of them. If anything, we should be hoping we get some all-new sculpts (or kitbashes using the existing tooling library) of those characters.
@@BossksBounty Yeah. The reason Chris gave before was that the molds "weren't up to our current standards", but we've seen them reissue/repack several figures in recent years that have outdated articulation, such as Endor Leia, AT-ST Driver, and most of the palace denizens from TVC 1.0, so that excuse doesn't hold water. The molds, for whatever reason, are just gone.
Great honest stuff as always! Now the real question WILL IT GET BACKED?? I just listed a duplicate Imperial shuttle to pay for it SO BACK THE CANTINA PEOPLE its a great set.
I think they probably did it this way because of the last few times things may have accidentally been revealed. At least they could prep and have it ready in their minds on how to answer instead of sitting there thinking how not to give away what’s to come in the future. I’m really hoping this reaches all 3 tiers but I’m fearful.
I ordered the Transformers Deathasaurus. And I didn't pay for it for like 2 weeks after it ended. So I think if you get the please pay for it warning. I think you can get it if it takes a l little longer to pay. It worked fo me. The Millennium Falcon docking bay would be cool!
They don’t charge you until the campaign is over. If it doesn’t meet the minimum backer count, you don’t get charged at all, so there’s no need for a refund. This is exactly what happened with the Black Series Rancor that didn’t fund.
Do you think the roof of the bar will sag over time or is there support? Here in Australia (as we don't have Haslab available) local store. Base/Deluxe $749/$999 Bit steep
Hasbro can’t help themselves. Just to make more money, they’ll release the unlocks at a future date. I know it’s a lot to expect, but if they’d included the basic figures and the unlocks as standard then included Leesub Sirln, Trento Diana, Pons Limbic and the lizard guy as unlocks, that would have backed in no time.
I don’t think a lot of people will be displaying it “proper”. I think most will do it modular, especially since you have to get the deluxe to get the full building. That’s the true design of this, to be modular.
I hope everyone realizes they're not going to retool every figure that's been made for the Cantina. So you're going to have to take some as is, even though they're 15 or 20 years old. The 4 TLC on TVC cards as is. Same with all the OTC, TSC and TAC. Anything from the PotF and PotJ has to be brand new sculpts
I think Haslab needs to sweeten the pot, say, give us at least one more figure, like a blue snaggletooth, perhaps. And next time, they should just stick with larger vehicles, lord knows we still need a lot of them to go with our TVC figures. A U wing, bad batch Marauder, Ahsoka's T6, or Bo Kataan's Mandalorian starfighter for starters.
This should be in the center of the room , on a lazy Susan, with a custom sand /dirt floor and a custom roof that can be removed. I’m in on the GIJoe Haslab, I’ve moved on from Star Wars . Kinda sucks that you guys don’t get 6 figures , only $499.00 not including tax shipping for 3 only , maybe Greedo , good luck guys .
Wait - I am confused by the wording you gave re: the unlockable figures. Do you mean they could be available outside of the HasLab on different hardbacks ONLY if they get unlocked? Meaning if they are not unlocked, we will not get them at all?
I took it it to mean the other way, what we all were thinking. If they don’t back, there’s a good chance they WON’T release them on their own in the like. But if they do back and the tiers are reached, they might release them later in the line on different hardbacks. Basically, they don’t want to preclude themselves from releasing the figures individually in the future, since they will have the molds and plans. But they don’t want to people to think they’re guaranteed to be released later. There isn’t going be a clearer answer to the question because Hasbro probably doesn’t really know what they’ll want to do in the future.
they probably made the cantina to go with the tonnika sisters because victoria's cantina youtube channel asked for the tonnika sisters and got one on her show, and then i messaged hasbro on their website to make the tonnikas because of what i saw on victorias channel and your channel bossk, that one of the sisters was either dead or not well and the other one wanted a figure, so i put that into my message to hasbro on their website, and they told me before this cantina was revealed that they sent my message to the appropriate people in the company for making the decisions about which figure to make.
Kinda surprised about how much negative I read about this haslab, I mean it's prolly one of the only playsets that can work with any figure from any era honestly. You can have rebel pilots sitting around a table, Jawa mingling around, a group of mandolorians hanging out, group of imperial officers (like the 4-pack, which honestly are just standing alone on most of our shelves) could be sitting having a drink. I don't really have any of the Cantina aliens, so mine is going be full of mandos, jedis, bounty hunters, A few Ewoks, rebel pilots that I don't have a ship for...
What’s the use of a Hammerhead if there is no Cantina to place him in. Good luck getting any of those unlock figures if it backs. And if that’s the case, no extra figures lessen the value even more. Also, a card back and extra accessories are one thing, but they will never lock a figure behind a HasLab. That’s why they skirt around the issue by saying “at this time”. They never should have went modular with no floor - especially for $500. It cheapens it. This is the main reason I pass. At this point the only HasLabs I would support are an Echo Base or Death Star.
I hope it gets backed. It's moving very slowly. I guess time will tell 😊 should of had a floor to bring it all together. Just saying. I don't like it. Looks unfinished.
Agree. An outside wall of some sort would've been good...for at least the back half. Some ppl see exactly what Hasbro is selling here & they love it. Some see an incomplete playset. Neither are wrong. It'll back, so everyone who wants it will be at least partially pleased. A decent HasLab effort and we can all move on to the next one
@bobtiki9767 maybe then have the floor modular also. It would have been very simple for them to figure it out. I'm just saying. Many people brought it up . A simple "Oh well, the Cantina is modular" to me is a poor excuse.
It was 💯% back in my opinion! Will we get all the tiers I'm not sure. I know there's a huge push last 48hours of campaign! So I'm hoping we are at least past Greedo tier & close to the next so we get all tiers backed!
They need to repack and rerelease the Legacy Collection figures. Such an easy repack. Also the deluxe version should've just been for the 400 price and the figures should be a guarantee not in tiers. Why would someone want to buy an incomplete cantina that's a weird option. Hasbro is always nickel and diming collectors. There also should have been more time to come up with the money to buy or at least a payment plan option like amazon does. Plus everyone seems to want a floor, they should've included a simple sandpaper removable floor or something like that. Like it's 500 bucks (550 total) people shouldn't have to get their own extra custom floor that's ridiculous. I'm backing this and I appreciate the effort and it seems epic but Hasbro really needs to be more generous with collectors especially with expensive exclusives and less greedy and lazy. Its more about the principle and treating die hard collectors right.
I apologize if this was a dream for some collectors, however I am personally content if the Cantina does not fund. For the price there are so many better settings Hasbro can do instead, particularly something Imperial like one of the Death Stars or a Star Destroyer. Cups can only be so exciting...
The thing is, if this fails, Hasbro isn’t likely to go and do a scene setup from the Death Star. The message will be “playsets don’t sell, we better stick to ships”. Of course don’t back it if you don’t want it, but we all should hope it funds so the door is open to future things.
Not a good reason for the shortened timeframe. The numbers have been fairly consistent from day to day during the so-called “doldrums” of the campaign - around 100ish per day. If you have a normal timeframe that is around 1,500 more backers. I know these numbers aren’t precise but it would or could be close to that. That could be the difference in reaching a tier or not.
Of course they say that they wont do the three basic figures, because than they can sell more Cantinas. I would say the same if I were them. However, I think it's very unfair to collectors on a budget not to release these figures. To be honest, after a few conversations at Celebration last year, I'm very disillusioned with Hasbro's TVC representatives. I found them to be very arrogant and not very empathetic in personal conversations. Their answers to my questions were very monosyllabic and they also interrupted me. Well, it is what it is.
Hope they make the bad batch the series has ended it would of been a good time to make them plus they made them in black series so they need to get on it in my opinion
I get the feeling Hasbro want the best of both worlds. They want to ensure profitability by having backers guarantee to fund, but they don't want those people to be intimately involved in the development of the product itself. I don't think it's a good look.
I’m SO CONFUSED! So let me get this straight, Hasbro’s Star Wars team had various influencers submit questions in advance and then join a video call yesterday where they answered random questions and talked more about the HasLab Cantina, but didn’t allow for any interaction from the participating sites and didn’t film or record the session, so fan sites have to just report about what they witnessed??? That sounds so ridiculous! 🤷♂️
Sounds like a very weird experience Tim. Why on earth did they do this? Why have they released the video on their RUclips, what’s the logic in keeping it as a private presentation and then having those if you who saw it pass it on when you are all slightly baffled by this bizarre marketing strategy. They seem to have lost their way as regards marketing this Haslab. Numbers at least seem to be going up, I’m still optimistic we’ll reach all the tiers, but if not looks like we might get them anyway 🤷🏻 or not 😂
I’m sorry, but how are they still trying to figure the timing out on Haslabs??? I think it would be common sense that if you are running on a short timeline, dont offer a product that’s $400-$500, maybe start with something half that price. 🤷♂️
I’m reading there will be 11 figures and only 3 are new characters. If there ever was a reason to release 11 obscure never before released cantina aliens it was now. Instead 8 characters that have more than four variations or releases is kinda a sad let down.
Yea that’s a pretty silly excuse. I want it, but it’s too expensive. They should have found a way to keep this below $200. I don’t think fans care about the wacko detail.
Super strange! What a waste of time for you buddy. Im sorry you had to deal with that. Have people get questions together and then exclude them to just have them watch. Weird and majorly frustrating. I'd like to know the real story behind the scenes.
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11 figures to support a Haslab at the jump is huge and unprecedented. It's a great start and no one can realistically complain that they're not supporting the cantina. They supported the barge over the years with the skiff and additional figures four-five years after the fact.
Their track record with Haslab support is excellent and I think a little trust/faith has been earned at this point. I'm eager for the cantina, I have literally every cantina figure made so far. I know not everyone does, but be patient. 11 figures to put in the cantina already is a great, great start.
Idk, they promised to further the o-ring gi joes after the skystriker and they punted it to super7 which is trash.
I love the Design.If it was $100-$120 less, I'd probably back it.
I'm a Fan, but I have my Limits
If it was $120 less it'd be the cost of the Throne room, with 2 more figures.
I think $280-$300 is about right.
$300 should be the Max price for the basic Cantina.
the US price feels a little bit more fair but in Europe paying 579,99 + 15 euro shipping is a bad deal. if it included the 6 i would have no doubt.
Thanks for spending the time to join the session and compile this for us!
Cheers Jeff. It was actually a lot of hassle for me to be there. So appreciate you appreciating! lol
@@BossksBounty I appreciate you appreciating the appreciation.
I appreciate you appreciating the appreciation, making me appreciate you for appreciating BB so much more. So much appreciativeness is making me tear up! 😢😂😂😂
I appreciate Tim’s appreciation of your appreciation for the gratitude the appreciation brought us all in appreciating the potential appreciation of this HasLab in the future when it was under-appreciated during its run and the values appreciate and peope who were on the fence because of lack of appreciation find out they can’t afford it now 😅
this is probably their new format, to prevent uncontrollable questions
And if they flub and let something slip out they can edit it out before posting the presentation.
The bonus tiers should've been multiple 4 packs of the cantina aliens, so you'd unlock them in sections
That would have been an awesome idea! 💡
Hasbro take some notes 📝 😂
I made my own custom cantina last year and bought all the figures in the last two years. They were expensive, but I'm happy I did it because now they're going to be much more expensive.
Awesome. If only I had your hindsight! 😂 I'll be paying through the nose 👃 😅 to get these figures now!
@@StarkIller-df7gw I paid about 300 euros for the 4 mentioned in the video.
@@StarkIller-df7gw Foresight. In hindsight, you’re paying more. He had the foresight to purchase them early 😉
When I created my Cantina using the Power of the force cardboard setup, I filled it with every produced figure thus far and it cost me nearly a grand 3 years ago. Now with this Cantina, those figures are going up daily and getting even more rare. We'll see.
Yeah I'm backing this Haslab but not looking forward to having to track all these damn figures I will need. Ain't gonna be cheap everyone rushing for the same figures is making the prices skyrocket no doubt! For a Haslab like this with so many figures needed to fill up the scene they really should do a better job of at least saying look we will reissue some of those legends line figures that are expensive like Tim mentioned. Just saying look we can guarantee if this backs we will reissue or make new figures of at least 10 figures in the next few years! That would go a long way! With them re using old legends molds that can easily be done!
Damn… just curious… how many figures have been released for the cantina? (Excluding Chewie, Jawas, Luke, Obiwan, and stormtroopers.)
@@StarkIller-df7gwI agree… better yet for $400 you should get the bar set AND all the hard to find figures that were only released once. Like tenacle face, goat head creep, zombie face man and his creepy baby alien arm pet, the brainiac, cyclops, cone horn head, and pink egg head lady
I’ve complained endlessly about the price being far too high, but the more I see of it the more I like the build after an initial bad impression. My finger is hovering over the trigger, and I think a lot of people are in the same boat. Hearing that it is getting future support probably has tipped me over, so thanks for the video
I think if they added the same figures that come carded loose as well it would have backed a lot quicker in my opinion
Hey BB, just wanted to thank you for this video. You are a true representative of the TVC community. Thanks for your candour in feeding back to us on this rather odd-sounding Q&A. The Legacy Collection question continues to be a point of much intrigue. One wonders what Q&As will look like going forward. Thanks again, keep up the brilliant work. GA
Can't wait for this Tim. 🥰👌💪💙
Well done for bringing up TLC figures 👏 hopefully they'll be watching this and address it... 🤞
Forget the Pipeline. Throw that figure in with the Haslab!
Because they're trying to maximize profits. But if they made Momaw Nadon an exclusive to this project, then this probably would get to 17k.
@@lamarravery4094 Make him available at 15 000
Just use sawdust for the floor. Like all the rough pubs did back in the day. It was easier to sweep up blood, broken glass and missing teeth at the end of the night. No, really. Pretty appropriate for the cantina with dead Rodians, severed Aqualish arms and whatnot, lol...
Ring the HasLab team for me and tell them unless there's a little battery operated soundboard and speaker in the band's stage module that plays 'The Cantina Theme'..the deal is off.
😁... And it wouldn't kill 'em to make the table lamps light up.
Honestly that would have made a world of difference.
It's gna back. We'll get all those different figures in the end. Everyone should be happy.
It might back, but it won't get to 17000
@@ChildOfTheWilderness unfortunately I agree, 11,000 to go seems to be a long stretch with less than two weeks to go! We will be lucky to get greedo. Am afraid!
@@johndunlap7670 that's OK, he'll obviously be released later on a different card
@@ChildOfTheWilderness hope you are correct!
It feels like this is going to struggle to scrape the funding goal at this point, so I think any discussion about the non-core figure offerings will likely be entirely moot. And as for the base figures. this is Hasbro we are talking about here, remember! If there's money to be made from existing tooling, they sure as hell will rinse it for all it's worth. "We currently have no plans to release..." is their way of giving the answer people want to hear, whilst protecting it's crowd-fund. Because let's face it, if this had no figure offerings, there's no way it'd get close to funding. Prior successful crowd funds have had exclusive "editions" of figures, nothing has had a "unique" figure yet. Barge and Crest figs came out in other forms down the line and I suspect it'll be no different here. Although I'm really glad people are liking this and supporting it, this is a massive disappointment for me. It's horribly plasticy, has no unique features, zero playabililty and aside from the bar, 90 percent consists of one "modular" alcove. The price is criminal.The initial idea of the Haslab was always to produce a "dream" item we simply couldn't get any other way. The Barge is the ultimate example. Crest and Ghost have also been spot on. This just feels like something you'd find filling shelves in Walmart. Star Destroyer, Blockade Runner, or a Home One next time please Hasbros...
I'm so excited for this. I can't wait for it to back and watch the surge. I'm sorry if i ruined the Q&As with my appearance last time!
Would be better as a Hasbro Pulse themed project where I could buy each Modular Section separately over time.
Also, would like a Roof for each Modular Section.
But it has to be Reasonably Priced.
Thanks for the rundown and shoutout! This Q&A was done so strangely. I have no idea why they don't want to share the actual video themselves...not to mention sharing a video about a Black Series two-pack of repacks today instead. Seems like it would have cleared up some confusion and helped promote the project, and not put so much pressure on fan sites to attend and get everything totally right, or answer their own readers' confused questions.
It was a right mission for me to attend too. Pulling over at a motorway services on the way back from a conference. Not ideal! lol
@@BossksBounty Now that's dedication!
Great work Bossk, this q&a does seem all 'Cloak and dagger' and by the sound of it, creates more questions than answers. On the back of the initial postponement. It certainly would have been good to hear about the Legacy Collection cantina patrons, either coming out or not
Very excited now getting closer to being backed 🙌 But this whole Haslab campaign has been botched from the very start and continues to be so by Hasbro … leaks, clarification videos, weak advertising and now this strange ‘cloak and dagger’ Q&A 🤷♂️
If you didn’t know any better you’d think Hasbro are trying to sabotage this thing😄
Thanks Tim mate for keeping us in the loop and bringing much needed clarity 👍🫶
Cheers Tony! I didnt even go in to detail of how much of a mission it was for me to actually attend lol. Was a busy day!
I have backed 3. Might get a 4th if I can swing it. Filling it can be done over the next year. Be patient. Don’t pay crazy figure prices right now.
Cheer's Tim thanks the in depth video, I'm so tempted to back! But if we don't get the 17000, backer's were paying £500 deluxe for 3 figures and a diorama, they already said price was based on all tiers, 6 figures, let's hope! 👍
I agree the price is best served with all the figures
I commented earlier on Lindquist's transcribed post the same thing about the release of the figures outside of the Haslab. Habro: For Wuher and the Tonnika’s, "there are no CURRENT plans" … so that's a maybe. For the other three tiers if we unlock them, "we may or may not" … so also as maybe. Clears it right up! And now that spawns a QFWN so I'll go post that on your last Sunday's video.
There's no guarantees in the future if they'll release them and if they do, it could be real limited.
This was probably the worst handling of a Haslab. First they leak the photos, then they delay the reveal and then don't give us the full 45 days. I think the higher ups just told them it's Star Wars and we need money. I don't use Twitter/X or Instagram so the only info I got was from facebook people and the You Tube reveal. They are relying on the customers too much. They need to take a step back and focus all of their attention on one Haslab at a time. They should also pay you guys for all the work they should be doing.
If they add a floor !!! Put foot peg on it so the Action Figures can stand up and not get blown over by the Wind !!! Or add two more Action Figures as stretched goals !!!
You ain't getting a floor
Pegs that actually work. A lot of these new figures have tiny holes under their feets, lol.
@@lamarravery4094 oh right, Nick hasn't said
❤❤❤❤❤❤ Hello there the cantina is funded Tim 😜😜😜😜😜
I hope Momaw makes it to the Retro line where it will be named Hammerhead. I would welcome Another ANH retro 6 pack. Hammerhead, Walrusman, R5-D4,Greedo,Luke X-Wing, Snaggletooth
All starting to smell funny, and for once it isn't me!
I'm still on the sand dune regarding this HasLab... thanks for sharing your thoughts on this presentation
This is bizarre. Hasbro marketing is MIA on this HasLab. Nearly all the promotion is being done by fan-sites. I’m sorry you were under pressure to attend - should have been a video on their socials! Get it together Hasbro!
Figures should be exclusive even the tier figures! Those of us fubding the Haslabs are paying for the tooling. We expect then to be limited edition. Not able to reissue them for years to come when we paid for tooling costs & they reap the benefits! Plus having them exclusive keeps the resale price up making them more desirable.
It will back the ghost had barely made its first tier but in the last few days it was fully funded with 5000 to spare
I wouldn't mind splitting a basic one with someone....I just want the front entrance lobby and one seating area, sisters I guess, and the other person would get the bar, bartender Maher and the two other seating areas.
While its unlikely they will re-release the Tonnika sisters outside the haslab, I honestly think they should! Many of us have been wanting these figures for years and when they finally announce them its with the huge caveat that you have to back the haslab! I don't think its fair that if you can't afford the Cantina, you won't be able to get them! Its another big slap in the face to collectors from Hasbro!
Hiya biker I thought the ghost figures were exclusive until,they released them on separate cardbacks albeit with less accessories and different colours I suspect they will release all these figures the same way 😊
Look at the failed Engine of Vengance Haslab. They said the wouldn't and now they have released a failed Haslab exclusive figure in the Black Heart wave. "No plans AT THE MOMENT" means just that. Not right now... but latter? Sure.
@@georgeaitken2719 How ya doin George! Yes, I hope so. Would love to add the Tonika sisters to the collection! I hate the idea of a multi billion dollar company crowdfunding projects, but if its the only way collectors can get a hold of these items, then fair enough. But at least give people the option of a payment plan like sideshow does! If they had a payment plan for this, i'd probably be able to afford it!
If you wait long enough, they'll be around. I got the Haslab Mandalorian and Jawa through Tunghori
@@georgeaitken2719 They will release them outside the Haslab. They said the cardbacks are what they wouldn't reissue. These are figures everyone wants and it would be stupid to never release them again a few years down the line. Plus they'll need to reissue it so they can paint their faces the correct color given these versions are Caucasian and their faces are clearly blue and green on the cardbacks and in the movie.
Thanks very much for the information.
Given that it's such a high-end item, the Modular Parts/Alcove walls should be weathered/textured on both sides, (ie including the curved archway entrances on both sides of the bar). Front and Back, so outside/extended dioramas can be set-up and displayed. (ie. A Dewback standing outside weathered walls).
Would have been good if the last tier was the 6 figures loose in a box with BW artwork like the Trooper 4-packs they've done recently.
Thanks for the recap, BB. As for your question about the older TLC/TAC cantina figures being reissued, I can answer that for you: They don't have the molds. I know Chris has said in the past that they did, but at this point, I think it's clear they actually don't. The molds for those figures are long gone, so I think it's time for people to stop hoping for a reissue of them. If anything, we should be hoping we get some all-new sculpts (or kitbashes using the existing tooling library) of those characters.
I agree. I want them to tell us so we stop asking. Where is the Ugnaught for example.
@@BossksBounty Yeah. The reason Chris gave before was that the molds "weren't up to our current standards", but we've seen them reissue/repack several figures in recent years that have outdated articulation, such as Endor Leia, AT-ST Driver, and most of the palace denizens from TVC 1.0, so that excuse doesn't hold water. The molds, for whatever reason, are just gone.
The “no current plan” answer is the same one they gave with all the other TVC haslabs. They still have never released those.
Only tunghori has them😂
Correct. But it still means they can if they want
Why didn’t they address the alcoves not having proper roofs?
Hasbro using the same approach from The Ghost Haslab…promising future figures to sweeten and close the deal.
Great honest stuff as always! Now the real question WILL IT GET BACKED?? I just listed a duplicate Imperial shuttle to pay for it SO BACK THE CANTINA PEOPLE its a great set.
Thanks for the update. I'd ask Haslab why the outside side walls are not textured/weathered. Extends the diorama potential (ie Dewback standing)
Why have we still not gotten a Luthen figure from Andor?
Do you think they pipelined Hammerhead first because they can easily just downscale the black series version.
I think they pipelined him because he would have been released regardless. But yes scaling down the digital sculpt certainly helps them.
I think they probably did it this way because of the last few times things may have accidentally been revealed. At least they could prep and have it ready in their minds on how to answer instead of sitting there thinking how not to give away what’s to come in the future.
I’m really hoping this reaches all 3 tiers but I’m fearful.
Hasbro should of said that they would balance the scales more so we can get new characters like Baylan skoll shin hati new media as well
Well it backed!!!!!
I ordered the Transformers Deathasaurus. And I didn't pay for it for like 2 weeks after it ended. So I think if you get the please pay for it warning. I think you can get it if it takes a l little longer to pay. It worked fo me. The Millennium Falcon docking bay would be cool!
I just want the sisters made
I’ve never backed a project but I’m really considering this one. If it’s not fully backed does it not get made and you are refunded?
They don’t charge you until the campaign is over. If it doesn’t meet the minimum backer count, you don’t get charged at all, so there’s no need for a refund. This is exactly what happened with the Black Series Rancor that didn’t fund.
I'm really hoping we get the tier unlocks, but worried about how the numbers are trending.
Me too!
Do you think the roof of the bar will sag over time or is there support?
Here in Australia (as we don't have Haslab available) local store. Base/Deluxe $749/$999 Bit steep
Some of the pipes of the distillery connect down to the bar, and up to the bar-roof-piece. I'm sure those are built to support.
Hasbro can’t help themselves. Just to make more money, they’ll release the unlocks at a future date. I know it’s a lot to expect, but if they’d included the basic figures and the unlocks as standard then included Leesub Sirln, Trento Diana, Pons Limbic and the lizard guy as unlocks, that would have backed in no time.
I am concerned this will not back, it certainly won't get to the tier goals
It'll back, and just the Tonnika Sisters will be worth $100-200 each within in a year.
Until they are re released with an exclusive cup. Lol.
will Momah have on his blue tank top?
No, but they might make one like that one day
It would be cool if we had more Ithorians besides Momaw.
@@lamarravery4094 and the dweeb mayor from the mandalorian
This will all end in tiers
See what you did there lol
@@BossksBounty Sorry. Couldn’t resist
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I still think they should give us the base figures loose as a tier as no one will want to open the carded figures
8:10 is that cockney for From?
cardback fomo ftw!
Make the damn floor modular or supply it anyway since 90%+ of recipients are going to display it the proper way.
I don’t think a lot of people will be displaying it “proper”. I think most will do it modular, especially since you have to get the deluxe to get the full building. That’s the true design of this, to be modular.
I just love you!
I hope everyone realizes they're not going to retool every figure that's been made for the Cantina. So you're going to have to take some as is, even though they're 15 or 20 years old. The 4 TLC on TVC cards as is. Same with all the OTC, TSC and TAC. Anything from the PotF and PotJ has to be brand new sculpts
I think Haslab needs to sweeten the pot, say, give us at least one more figure, like a blue snaggletooth, perhaps. And next time, they should just stick with larger vehicles, lord knows we still need a lot of them to go with our TVC figures. A U wing, bad batch Marauder, Ahsoka's T6, or Bo Kataan's Mandalorian starfighter for starters.
This should be in the center of the room , on a lazy Susan, with a custom sand /dirt floor and a custom roof that can be removed. I’m in on the GIJoe Haslab, I’ve moved on from Star Wars . Kinda sucks that you guys don’t get 6 figures , only $499.00 not including tax shipping for 3 only , maybe Greedo , good luck guys .
I love your content better Bossk.
Wait - I am confused by the wording you gave re: the unlockable figures. Do you mean they could be available outside of the HasLab on different hardbacks ONLY if they get unlocked? Meaning if they are not unlocked, we will not get them at all?
Thats how they said it, they wanted it to be intentionally confusing
No I think they meant they won't do them commercially if they're unlocked, only if they fail because otherwise the molds go to waste
I took it it to mean the other way, what we all were thinking. If they don’t back, there’s a good chance they WON’T release them on their own in the like. But if they do back and the tiers are reached, they might release them later in the line on different hardbacks. Basically, they don’t want to preclude themselves from releasing the figures individually in the future, since they will have the molds and plans. But they don’t want to people to think they’re guaranteed to be released later.
There isn’t going be a clearer answer to the question because Hasbro probably doesn’t really know what they’ll want to do in the future.
they probably made the cantina to go with the tonnika sisters because victoria's cantina youtube channel asked for the tonnika sisters and got one on her show, and then i messaged hasbro on their website to make the tonnikas because of what i saw on victorias channel and your channel bossk, that one of the sisters was either dead or not well and the other one wanted a figure, so i put that into my message to hasbro on their website, and they told me before this cantina was revealed that they sent my message to the appropriate people in the company for making the decisions about which figure to make.
Can the Q&A video be viewed ? Can you share the link pls
I mention that we are not allowed to share it this time. Maybe they will put it on their own channel.
Great video but they know it looks like a movie facade not something that feels like a true piece of world building
Kinda surprised about how much negative I read about this haslab, I mean it's prolly one of the only playsets that can work with any figure from any era honestly. You can have rebel pilots sitting around a table, Jawa mingling around, a group of mandolorians hanging out, group of imperial officers (like the 4-pack, which honestly are just standing alone on most of our shelves) could be sitting having a drink. I don't really have any of the Cantina aliens, so mine is going be full of mandos, jedis, bounty hunters, A few Ewoks, rebel pilots that I don't have a ship for...
Exactly, and even if you are passing you should be rooting for it to back so other projects can continue in the future!
I've told people to back it now cus if it does get funded, the Secondary market price is gonna be twice as much
I hope it gets backed so I can see a review, but I just don't see all the tiers getting unlocked.
What’s the use of a Hammerhead if there is no Cantina to place him in. Good luck getting any of those unlock figures if it backs. And if that’s the case, no extra figures lessen the value even more. Also, a card back and extra accessories are one thing, but they will never lock a figure behind a HasLab. That’s why they skirt around the issue by saying “at this time”.
They never should have went modular with no floor - especially for $500. It cheapens it. This is the main reason I pass. At this point the only HasLabs I would support are an Echo Base or Death Star.
....it needs a floor!
#backthebar
I hope it gets backed. It's moving very slowly. I guess time will tell 😊 should of had a floor to bring it all together. Just saying. I don't like it. Looks unfinished.
It’s modular a floor is unnecessary and easy to reproduce
Agree. An outside wall of some sort would've been good...for at least the back half.
Some ppl see exactly what Hasbro is selling here & they love it. Some see an incomplete playset. Neither are wrong. It'll back, so everyone who wants it will be at least partially pleased. A decent HasLab effort and we can all move on to the next one
Agree 100%
@bobtiki9767 maybe then have the floor modular also. It would have been very simple for them to figure it out. I'm just saying. Many people brought it up . A simple "Oh well, the Cantina is modular" to me is a poor excuse.
It was 💯% back in my opinion! Will we get all the tiers I'm not sure. I know there's a huge push last 48hours of campaign! So I'm hoping we are at least past Greedo tier & close to the next so we get all tiers backed!
They need to repack and rerelease the Legacy Collection figures. Such an easy repack.
Also the deluxe version should've just been for the 400 price and the figures should be a guarantee not in tiers. Why would someone want to buy an incomplete cantina that's a weird option. Hasbro is always nickel and diming collectors. There also should have been more time to come up with the money to buy or at least a payment plan option like amazon does.
Plus everyone seems to want a floor, they should've included a simple sandpaper removable floor or something like that. Like it's 500 bucks (550 total) people shouldn't have to get their own extra custom floor that's ridiculous.
I'm backing this and I appreciate the effort and it seems epic but Hasbro really needs to be more generous with collectors especially with expensive exclusives and less greedy and lazy. Its more about the principle and treating die hard collectors right.
I apologize if this was a dream for some collectors, however I am personally content if the Cantina does not fund. For the price there are so many better settings Hasbro can do instead, particularly something Imperial like one of the Death Stars or a Star Destroyer. Cups can only be so exciting...
The thing is, if this fails, Hasbro isn’t likely to go and do a scene setup from the Death Star. The message will be “playsets don’t sell, we better stick to ships”. Of course don’t back it if you don’t want it, but we all should hope it funds so the door is open to future things.
Just don’t do cheap modular play sets. That’s the problem.
Momaw Nadon will almost certainly be a deluxe release as well. 🙄
Mom aw nadon
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Foul Moudama gota be around the corner then 😏
Not a good reason for the shortened timeframe. The numbers have been fairly consistent from day to day during the so-called “doldrums” of the campaign - around 100ish per day. If you have a normal timeframe that is around 1,500 more backers. I know these numbers aren’t precise but it would or could be close to that. That could be the difference in reaching a tier or not.
Just think if it gets back !!! The Sisers could be in the BLACK Series !!! 😊😊😊
Of course they say that they wont do the three basic figures, because than they can sell more Cantinas. I would say the same if I were them.
However, I think it's very unfair to collectors on a budget not to release these figures.
To be honest, after a few conversations at Celebration last year, I'm very disillusioned with Hasbro's TVC representatives. I found them to be very arrogant and not very empathetic in personal conversations. Their answers to my questions were very monosyllabic and they also interrupted me. Well, it is what it is.
It really looks so much like a playmobil set which makes it seem even more overpriced in comparison. Hope it backs for those that want it.
Anything confirmed that Hammerhead won’t be a deluxe? As much as we need him carded, it’s gona make the Jango Deluxe feel downright dumb by proxy.
99% sure he will be on a card (but still my be classed as deluxe, similar to TBS). Have to wait and see
@@BossksBounty
Should have been putting out Cantina Aliens/charicters for at least a year before this Haslab.
And still no word on weathering. Drat.
Hope they make the bad batch the series has ended it would of been a good time to make them plus they made them in black series so they need to get on it in my opinion
I get the feeling Hasbro want the best of both worlds. They want to ensure profitability by having backers guarantee to fund, but they don't want those people to be intimately involved in the development of the product itself. I don't think it's a good look.
I’m SO CONFUSED! So let me get this straight, Hasbro’s Star Wars team had various influencers submit questions in advance and then join a video call yesterday where they answered random questions and talked more about the HasLab Cantina, but didn’t allow for any interaction from the participating sites and didn’t film or record the session, so fan sites have to just report about what they witnessed??? That sounds so ridiculous! 🤷♂️
They did record it. We just can’t publish it. So maybe they will do on their RUclips channel
Sounds like a very weird experience Tim. Why on earth did they do this? Why have they released the video on their RUclips, what’s the logic in keeping it as a private presentation and then having those if you who saw it pass it on when you are all slightly baffled by this bizarre marketing strategy. They seem to have lost their way as regards marketing this Haslab. Numbers at least seem to be going up, I’m still optimistic we’ll reach all the tiers, but if not looks like we might get them anyway 🤷🏻 or not 😂
I’m sorry, but how are they still trying to figure the timing out on Haslabs???
I think it would be common sense that if you are running on a short timeline, dont offer a product that’s $400-$500, maybe start with something half that price. 🤷♂️
Wolfman should have come with the deluxe
People are poor right now. They need to do a cheaper haslab to make it aproachable to more.
We need the ghost we paid for too.
hope hasbro does a retro wave with 8 in the series finish off the first 20
Currently has 6k backers with only 11 days left to reach 8k. Will it get to the target?
Yeah. Other Haslabs got more backers on the final day than the first. Which if that stays true then we are already on over 9000.
I think people will start to back out when they realize no stretch goals will be met.
I’m reading there will be 11 figures and only 3 are new characters. If there ever was a reason to release 11 obscure never before released cantina aliens it was now. Instead 8 characters that have more than four variations or releases is kinda a sad let down.
True. But if it funds then maybe we gets some 4 packs etc in the future
We dont need a floor. So sick of hearing that complaint.
Large sheet of sandpaper, & done ✔️
Excatly! Paint a piece of cardboard damn how hard is that! Or plastic. Throw some sand to add some lived in atmosphere! 😂😂😂
If that’s what some people want why do you get to shit on their desires. Just like we shouldn’t give you crap for what ever you want.
they should have an extra floor made of sandpaper or whatever like what's the big deal it's 500 bucks they should make the extra effort
Yea that’s a pretty silly excuse. I want it, but it’s too expensive. They should have found a way to keep this below $200. I don’t think fans care about the wacko detail.
3 seasons of the bad batch and only hunter……….
5 epds of the new tv show…….bam seven figures……
Super strange! What a waste of time for you buddy. Im sorry you had to deal with that. Have people get questions together and then exclude them to just have them watch. Weird and majorly frustrating. I'd like to know the real story behind the scenes.
Yuk on the box, I’m not feeling this one like with the Ghost and Barge I think I might pass on it