FINALLY! Smart Hitch! The feature EVERY truck owner has asked for! 2023 Ford Super Duty
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Unfortunately this is only offered on platinum’s and limited and should be on trucks like XL because that’s the truck that is used more then these Cadillac trucks
Exactly. The majority of companies aren't going to spring for the extra cost of a Platinum just so it can get the hell beat out of it at a job site.
Same features are available on a Lariat as an option
Just buy the more expensive truck jeez it's maybe 200 more a month than the cheaper version 😅
I’ve owned two limited and both worked every day towed allot
Yes, exactly.
I agree with all the comments about this feature being standard on the lower trim levels. This is a boss man truck that will only have paperwork in it 😅
Hardcore GM guy here, but I gotta give Ford their props on this one. That is absolutely brilliant. The tail lights feature was incredibly insightful. Very reminiscent of the approach lights on the aft end of US Navy carriers when you're on final approach and you are commanded to "call the ball". Great job, Ford engineers.
If this is patented technology, I wonder what the competitors will try to match what Ford has done.
Cool engineering!
I don't think it could be patented. All the components to make it work have existed for decades. The only hardware required are the indicator lights and a position or load sensor on the suspension. The load they will look up from a spring rate table in the software from the position.
The software is the only thing novel and will be copyrighted. Each company will write their own pretty easily though.
It has been possible to do this for a very long time, but we didn't have the user interface to make it nice to use until recently.
By the time you go thru the procedure, a competent driver would be hooked up (properly) and down the road.
Great idea, but wouldn't surprise me to see Ford use it to deny warranty when the computer logs how much & how many times it's been overloaded beyond its rated capacity.
the hitching scale is great, BUT, a person seems to need to know the rough weight of their trailer and/or load. Most people aren't going to have much of an idea of their trailer weights, especially flatbeds and cargo trailers, much less most cargo unless they find a truck scale nearby.
Most people that tow on a regular basis know their trailer weight. My Haulmark cargo trailer even came with a dry weight sticker.
I know they loaded the skidsteer for demonstration purposes so they could show how the smart hitch works. Normally you would load your skidsteer backwards and have about 60% of the weight forward of the center. Of course if you have a heavy attachment on the front (e.g. a 2,500 lb forestry mulcher) you might load it pointing towards the truck. I think this is a very cool feature and wish I could have it retrofitted on my 2022 Ford F250. Once you get the system dialed in, it won’t take much time. There is a certain amount of comfort knowing you have it loaded correctly. Nothing worse than heading down the road and having your trailer start swaying.
Get a weighsafe hitch
I got one for my 19 f350, the steel one is rated for 22k and had a scale build in, lets you calculate the tongue weight
Funny you mentioned this. I picked up that hitch a couple months ago. It works great and gives me peace of mind I’ve got my trailer loaded correctly.
It would be cool if you could do this through an app so that you didn’t have to keep getting in and out of the truck to advance the menu.
This is more nanny equipment that I think is geared towards the lower end of competency type people. If you are not capable of looking at a trailer, or the sag of your truck, and knowing how the weight is sitting.. You probably shouldn't be towing or using equipment anyway.
That is the most awesome towing feature I've seen!
I sure wish I could add this to my King Ranch. Love my truck, but this would sure be a nice add on.
That is a FANTASTIC option!!!!
Wish I could get a truck like that
You can if you use your money wisely
it's a great feature and about time. Thanks
This feature should be standard equipment on all trucks no matter
The make or model. Happy 4th of
July to you and your family.
And should be federally required safety equipment.
No people should learn what they’re doing or just not do it. If you can’t hook up the trailer yourself, load it properly and secure the world you shouldn’t be using it. If you can’t do any of the stuff that comes along with it, that tells me you’re gonna do a horrible job driving down the road.
Just give me a basic 35k truck with manual everything and I’ll be happy!
Honestly, I don't think that they make those anymore. I want one too though.
I'm not huge on modern vehicle gadgetry but I have to admit that's slick. Thanks for sharing.
That is really cool technology. Definitely has me curious about how I load any trailer now.
If you need a special knob because you can’t distinguish which way to turn your steering wheel when in reverse, backing up, you also shouldn’t be towing a trailer
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JD can gripe about people calling him a fan boy, and defend himself all he wants. He's a Ford fan boy, plain and simple. That doesn't take away from his content. His content is great and informative. He's just living in denial about his brand allegiance.
@HyckoryStyckWorks exactly! That's why I'm teasing him. Been a subscriber for a few years, plan on staying as one
The only thing I see as a problem, is most people are not going to weigh their trailer/load so there is no way to accurately enter the loaded trailers weight in the setup screens.
God damn that ball weight system is amazing! Truely genius!
The thing I find about Ford's is they stick to the same design, not much change, then you look at the Gmc and Chevys and they actually look like they've made design progress. Over a few generations. LASTLY my Titan did trailer light check 5yrs ago. 😁 I like the hitch weight lights. That is smart.
That’s very cool.
YOU Delivered!!!!!!!!!!
So many cool new features. Ford has really raised the bar. To bad you can’t get the limited with a different color interior instead of that awful blue. Only fitting to a couple colors and is really out of place on that red one. Went Platinum on my last gen SRW F350 for that and for some reason Ford wouldn’t let you option the 3.73 axle ratio on the limited trim.
Agreed. I really liked the brown and tan interior when the first Limited Super Duties came out.
I like the blue interior, but I'd also get a blue exterior. Yea, I like blue.
The blue is horredous.
Great way to record information that you don't want Ford, insurance, or the law to have. I'm sure Ford warranty or insurance would love to deny a claim for being 1 lb. over. Let's have them use Ford telematics so they can send it right to the DOT weigh station too.
That is slick
And an hour later you're on you way
This is pretty slick. I noticed it had options for 5th wheel and gooseneck also. It would be great to see how those work also.
That’s a pretty cool feature
Very interesting and innovative tech
Very excited to have my gooseneck tell me if its well balanced based on which horses im bringin with me!!!
Where I have a problem with what they call the new way to say anything. You said it correctly. The other guy, nope. You said safety. The other guy said experience. I would get a truck with that system to be safer going down the road. Not to give me a better experience. Safer is a better experience. Yet. Experience is a feeling and not reasoning. Thanks for sharing.
I know sometimes new vehicle styling grows on you, but I can confidently say my 22 looks way better than the 23. They messed the front end up with those bulbous headlights
I wonder if GM and Dodge are going to try to add this feature in the future .
If you can’t judge tongue weight based off the squat of the truck or how the load is sitting on the trailer, you probably don’t need a trailer behind you.
I’ve scrolled and scrolled and finally found someone else that thinks this is a very frivolous feature. It’s cool and all but seems to take way too long and I’ve never had any problems loading a trailer without technology
Love the truck but I refuse to buy any ford until they removed the exit and entrance sounds.
This is very neat tech with a few concerns. I caught him saying 10 - 15% tongue weight on the truck, which is what the new SAE J2807 standard for rating trucks tow ratings assume. BUT, many trailer manufacturers, particularly RV trailers do not build to this standard. I have a "lightweight" gooseneck fifth wheel. New from factory, after putting batteries in and filling LP tanks and upgrading pin box to a Reese goose ball, I'm sitting at 23% tongue weight. Nothing in the cargo compartment, not even the electrical connection cord. I am barely legal to my tongue weight rating sticker on my 3500HD SRW even though I have thousands of pounds available on my cargo capacity sticker. It is a simple task to change tongue weight in your example shown on a flat bed trailer, not so much in an RV. Also, how far of a stretch is it to think if you are overloaded, this new tech could be alerting law enforcement while you are driving down the road? Maybe I just don't trust big brother that much. All for our safety, as we hear so much. But a good informing video nonetheless.
Bumper pull is 10%-15%. Goosenecks are 20%-25% typically.
Lay off the crack
@jtonguam My point exactly, the RV manufacturers are setting their tongue weights at 20 - 25%, but the truck manufacturers are only allowing 15% on their weight ratings. On my 22 Silverado, the tongue weight rating for the J2807 is set at exactly 15% of the max. trailer gvwr. At the very least, this new tech will allow the truck manufacturers to deny warranty claims if you tow overloaded.
@campnut6076 I am not sure but I would assume when the gooseneck option is chosen the percentage of tongue weight would change.
Would like to see how this work with a weight distribution hitch
I think it is using the suspension to detect the load and is why it makes sure all the load is in the truck before zeroing. So I think very little would change except for the thresholds of the right weight.
I’ve been putting 8000 pounds in the bed of 350/450 since 2000 lol
Can you see this on your phone in the ford app? Just thinking I might not be able to see the tail lights when I load my sxs or a piece of equipment in my dump trailer.
8015 cargo cap. including passengers in the cab, not just the box.
How does this work? Actual load cells taking the weight measurement, laser sensor measuring height of the truck compared to spring rate of the leafs, angle gauge of the frame at start to end and using the spring rate again?
B+Most likely, height sensor on the rear axle. Like the one used on trucks with airbags. Only problem with this system is that if you install an airbag kit, it will show the trailer as weighing less than it does.
I want to know how it’s reading the weight? Is it a load cell, or is it using angle of truck?
Should be able to check if lights and turn signals are working thru cameras
Just the tail light feature is worth paying for this feature.
Most of the people who buy the platinum trucks dont use them.
Very expensive daily driver.
Neat idea for dummies
What is the GVWR on that first 350?
How does it measure weight?
Yeah, check out the 9.6 mpg on the screen @3:07....
Pretty cool feature but honestly I wouldn’t want it in lower model “work trucks” our guys wear our trucks out fast enough as it is. That’s just one more thing for them to mess up
Someone should call that dude on the internet that keeps breaking frames
That's cool but more stuff to go wrong and increase cost even further. Now touch the plastics on the dash, super loose.
I'm a truck owner and I never asked for this.
So does Ford assume an average weight for a driver when calculating payload? If not then as soon as you drive the first truck you are overloaded unless you find a 15 lbs driver, lol. As solo traveler the light check feature is great too bad it only works sometimes in my 21 F150.
It's actually weight not assumed weights
Assumption being they use the ride height sensors mentioned in JDs previous video. Using this coupled with the first step of the process to "zero" out the weight of the truck in a "pre trailer" weigh-in, so to speak.
They need a device to make “smart” drivers that don’t need a “smart” hitch. If one can’t back up to a trailer, maybe they better go back and drive mommy’s prius some more and learn a few things!
I really thought this was a cool feature.
I agree brother. Probably the most universally useful feature added.
Glad ford figured out a way to make a taillight cost a grand should it ever need to be replaced. Lol. My 15 f150 gets a trailer connected trailer disconnected trailer connected trailer disconnected message over and over and over when driving with a trailer. Drives me insane. I feel sure this is where this is headed.
I feel like this will mainly be used by Ford to void anyone’s warranty that might load heavy the odd time
So 8000 lbs out of 8015, when the driver gets in you’re over weight ?
Is it in an app? If not that’s a miss.
this is cool and all but how about you just leave mine off and get the price below 35k?
Could have been 5 miles down the road by the time you get this set up.
I'm sorry but it's not a smart hitch if it requires you to enter weight of the load. How is that going to work with something you have no idea of what the weight is?
A person should almost always have a general idea of what the weight of a trailer is. To not know this is pretty irresponsible, to be honest.
Trailer axles have rating so, yeah you are suppose to know the weight of what you are carrying or atleast a rough estimate. The trailers weight is usually on a sticker on the trailer tongue. Add the 2 weights together and you have your total trailer weight. This very important so you don't destroy your truck/trailer overloading it.
@jvilhauer the weight of the trailer isn't the issue. It's knowing the weight of the load/stuff on or in the trailer I'm referring to. Which is also required and you can't always be able to know that.
if the payload is 8015, and the concrete is 8000 lbs, where are you gonna find a driver that weighs 15 lbs without exceeding capacity?
Guess I am just old school and see this as unnecessary. As a CDL Class A driver, you know how to load and pull trailers properly. Sure many people don't know that tongue weight should be at 10%-15% of your load. And while this is very clever, like all electronics it will likely fail. Then the person better know the basics.
The best feature ever was years ago with the backup camera. People who drive with trailers for a living know how to load them. This extra stuff takes too long and is unnecessary in my opinion.
I’ll stick with my WeighSafe hitch.
its only 7200 lbs but regardless its impressive!
Wow whatever did people do and how did they load construction equipment before Ford came up with this? Must've been the dark ages. LOL
Why is the instrument panel flickering? That would be anoying as hell for me.
LEDs and Cameras don't mix
@@BigTruckBigRV I guess not.
really cool feature. but this is a newbie I've never towed anything truck owner feature.
It’s a cool concept but who’s going to waste 15 minutes every time when you could hook up and go in 2 minutes
How does the smart hitch work with a 5th wheel or gooseneck
😮😂😅😂😅
lol. WeighSafe hitches are like 300 bucks.
Something else to go wrong
Does Chevrolet and RAM have similar feature?
Hell no. Chevy can't afford to because they're basically broke and Dodge/Fiat can't because they only make cheap vehicles
@@BruceDragon-sf1trwut? Didn't GM make like 15 billion dollars in 2022?
@@SliderFury1 15 billion they still owe
@@BruceDragon-sf1trokay but isn't Ford also in debt and took a loss last year?
@@SliderFury1GM is Chinese now so if you like Chinese vehicles go ahead
Went from kinda slow to god mode real quick
This is fluffy marketing crap! Guys who actually sweat for a living would be 20 miles down the road before these geeks ever get past their settings screen.
1). The whole system relies on the person knowing exactly how much his trailer and load weigh. What happens if the driver enters the wrong weight? For example he just puts down 8000 pounds (the weight of his load) and then the system tells him to throw way too much weight in back? You just created a whole other problem!
2). Fine if you have a skid steer that can just be moved back and forth, but most loads are static and need to be shifted by hand. Not practical.
3). As many stated here, this is only available on top line models so the working guys with base trucks will never have this feature anyway.
4). As usual, the feature comes with all sorts of disclaimers, cautions screens etc. that the user needs to cancel and it will just program the driver to ignore half the screens. Just like all those user agreements on websites that nobody ever reads.
5). The user has to push 20 buttons to use it! time is money and nobody is going to use this stupid thing, and he’s going to ignore half the reminders because who’s going to go back and forth between trailer and cab to hook up chains…then go back…hook up emergency brake…then go back…connect lights…then go back. These bozos demonstrating it didn’t even do that for their demonstration so why would anyone do it in real life?
6). Even the light check, which is kinda helpful is stupid because it only repeats 5 times then stops…why? If I do have a trailer light problem, and this feature helped me find it, the stupid thing should just repeat forever while I find and fix the problem, not stop after 5 times!
This is a classic example of marketing and sales people coming up with silly features to try and charge more money and kludging up a good idea with all sorts of crap and make it useless.
An actual helpful feature would just be two functions
1). Reset/zero out the unloaded weight
2). After connecting the trailer just display how many pounds the truck has detected is sitting on the tongue now.
This takes away all the stupid attempts to calculate the percentages for you and just gives a simple number the user can use. No cautions, no warnings, just a quick zero and go! I’m an engineer and truck owner and these things annoy me when marketing/sales/desk jockeys come up with these stupid ideas that take simple things and overcomplicate it to the point where it’s a hot mess.
The title says this is a feature every truck owner asked for. I predict this is a feature that not a single owner will ever use more than 2 times.
Bravo!!! Don’t need it. Don’t want it. Can’t afford to fix it when it breaks !!
I can say that I've never asked for this. Never even thought of it. It's interesting, but unnecessary to me. Would it make me buy a Ford, nah.
Ford needs to change their chime it’s gettin old 😂
Why do people seem to always load Skid steers the wrong way?
If you need these features, i don’t want to be anywhere near you on the road because you have no clue what you’re doing or how to safely tow. This is how accidents happen.
You'd be surprised how many veteran pickup truck owners who tow don't balance their trailers properly.
So when do we start calling these trucks 350's and 3500's instead of calling them "1-ton"s? The big trucks were called 1-ton's back in the day because that's what they carried. These big trucks used to have a 2k Lbs. payload. My 1987 Nissan Hardbody was a chassis cab with a bed on it. It carried over a ton, but people still called it a "1/2 ton" truck because of it's size. I think we should just abandon the terms 1/2-ton, 3/4-ton and 1-ton to the dustbin of history.
Those concrete blocks are 2’x2’x5’ which comes out to 3200 pounds each x 2 = 6400 pounds. Not to be technical or a Karen.
HAHAHAHA..... for all the dudes that rely on the "trailer backup assist" knob
Another gimmick to provide an excuse for extreme pricing!
This option is so ridiculous and completely unnecessary... If you are a pro you know how to load a trailer without all this crap!
If you need this extra stuff just to pull a trailer. You probably shouldn't be pulling a trailer.
The name alone sounds ridiculous. If you can’t back up a trailer by yourself and hook it up with relative ease, you shouldn’t be doing it.
If you need this, you shouldn’t be hauling heavy equipment with your truck
This has to be the biggest waste of money and time on a truck yet. I can’t believe the world has become so dependent on some computer to do what people have been doing just fine since Henry Ford made his first truck. The likelihood of someone who pulls a trailer regularly needing this is minimal. How about the same engineer figure out how to get better fuel mileage or a Sync microphone that actually works?
Gee whiz.... yet another feature to go out and cost you $5000 to replace components and a controller. I will stick with my 90's Ford and a hitch that has a built in load scale. Saved myself $45,000 on a new truck and another $45,000 in lifetime maintenance. Technology makes people lazy and uneducated in what actually figuring out your load balance means. (I know, keyboard warriors are warming up their fingers)
No thanks. I would have been 10 miles down the road already. Another gizmo to make people dumber, poorer, and less productive. Btw, it will probably not work once you go out of warranty.
Barf 🤮
This is useless for someone that is buying a $90k+ HD truck. If you can't do the basics of trailer loading then you shouldn't be driving a truck like this.
Seems irrelevant
Obviously you've never had a trailer go into full Death Wobble going down the highway at 65mph.
@@anthonyroberts9034 ofcourse I haven’t why? Because i know how to load a trailer. It would be a more useful feature if instead of going through a 15 step process it would automatically warn you when your truck is tongue heavy.
@@anthonyroberts9034Loading weight on a trailer is common sense. Arrogance causes death wobble
Completely relevant actually
@@joseandreigarcia5500 -- Arrogance, ignorance and stupidity.