Total Depravity (Part 1): What is Reformed Theology? with R.C. Sproul
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- Опубликовано: 4 июл 2024
- Original sin has marred our nature. We are depraved. But how depraved are we? Are we simply less than perfect? What kind of improvements can we make within ourselves to change sin’s effect? In this message, Dr. Sproul looks at the distinctive doctrine of Reformed theology that is often misunderstood-“Total Depravity.”
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These videos are the true blessing. R.C. Sproul is one of my favourite pastors-teachers. But we definitely are Christians firstly and then Calvinists. Knowledge is so important, but debating with the Arminian bretheren with love is more important. Greetings from Ukraine (Evangelical Reformed Presbyterian church of Odesa).
Greetings from the Netherlands Mary. Indeed we are christians first. We identify by our Lord and saviour, not our favorite teacher.
@@menknurlan She is just saying Mr. Sproul is her favourite speaker. When your wife says that you’re her favourite person doesn’t mean that she puts you above God.
I believe I’d say it another way. To be a Christian is to be a Calvinist, even if you don’t hold to it intellectually because we are saved by a God who saves unconditionally, in light of our total depravity, and will persevere His people who He has secured from the foundation of the world. Completely understand what you mean though, and agree, we must be patient and gentle ESPECIALLY to Arminian brothers. It’s sad when we don’t, and should expect hostility from the other side.
@@jeremyjohnson4106 everyone in heaven is a calvinist everyone in hell still has their freewill
@@iacoponefurio1915if everyone in Heaven is Calvinist then please God send me to hell.
I became a Presbyterian a month ago and have learned a lot from Reverend R. C. Sproul! Thank God for the internet that gives us access to content as edifying as this class.
I now know why John Macarthur is so grateful for RC to see him as his friend and teacher.
Amen!
If you can truly grasp the T in TULIP, the others makes so much biblical sense. It serves as the foundation. Hallelujah it's all God when it comes to my Salvation. Amen.
Addjoa preko baah
Biblical sense??? You mean logical sense.
Calvinism is logical if the first point is correct but none of it is biblical. That’s for certain.
@@evanu6579 Oh yeah it is very biblical. We are totally depraved wanting nothing to do with God. I recommend John Owen's The Death of Death in the Death of Christ. R.C. is spot on.
Addjoa preko baah
RC says that regeneration precedes faith. But
Regeneration happens after faith....
Jhn 7:38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.
39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)
All that believed would receive the Spirit after Jesus’ resurrection and ascension....
Jhn 14: 17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
Jhn 15: 26 ¶ But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:
Jhn 16: 7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
The Holy Spirit is first given here....
Jhn 20: 22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:
So they didn’t receive the Holy Spirit until after the resurrection as Jesus stated in John 7. That’s well after the disciples believed, and many others as well......
Jhn 2: 23 ¶ Now when he was in Jerusalem at the passover, in the feast day, many believed in his name, when they saw the miracles which he did.
Luk 7: 50 ¶ And he said to the woman, Thy faith hath saved thee; go in peace.
Even after the resurrection, faith still preceded regeneration.....
Eph 1: 13 ¶ In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
Acts 5:32 And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.
Just to clarify what regeneration is. It is the indwelling of the Holy Spirit....
Rom 8: 9 ¶ But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
Spiritual life happens after belief.....
Jhn 20:31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.
The disciples hadn’t received this life before the resurrection of Christ.....
Jhn 14:19 ¶ Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.
Peter hadn’t yet been converted.....
Luk 22:32 But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren.
(Matt 18:3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.)
@@evanu6579 regeneration is not the indwelling of the Spirit in the very narrow sense. Regenerate means to revive which is done only and alone by the Spirit. Since we are dead in spirit, the Holy Spirit revives our dead spirit as it indwells us. It is after our hearts of stone are turned to hearts of flesh known as regeneration that we have faith to believe. Paul says in Romans that NO ONE SEEKS GOD, NO ONE UNDERSTANDS. So yes regeneration precedes faith and by precedes we are not talking of one minute, we are talking split seconds. It's almost impossible to draw a line between regeneration and having faith.
Addjoa preko baah
So you just ignore all of the passages that clearly state that regeneration happens after faith because you think Romans 3 means that the natural man cannot seek God?
Paul is not saying that at all. The Jews thought that they were better than the Gentiles because they had the law.....
Rom 2: 17 ¶ Behold, thou art called a Jew, and restest in the law, and makest thy boast of God,
18 And knowest his will, and approvest the things that are more excellent, being instructed out of the law;
23 Thou that makest thy boast of the law, through breaking the law dishonourest thou God?
24 For the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles through you, as it is written.
Rom 3: 1 ¶ What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision?
2 Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the oracles of God.
9 ¶ What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;
Paul asks what advantages did the Jew have over the Gentile? Many advantages by being given the law. But what did it profit them?
He then cites OT passages to prove that they weren’t any better. Though they had the law, yet they’re as guilty as the Gentile. All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. He’s proving universal sin not total inability.
Psa 14: 1 ¶ [[To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David.]] The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
2 The LORD looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God.
3 They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
4 Have all the workers of iniquity no knowledge? who eat up my people as they eat bread, and call not upon the LORD.
Though the Jews knew God they refused to recognize Him as God and worshipped the creature rather than the Creator. God gave them over to their vile affections. Those who say there is no God don’t seek after God. These are fools who should know better.
Rom 3: 19 ¶ Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
Context is important my friend.
God bless
One of RC Sproul's gifts is clarity of his lectures and sermons; may the Lord God bless him with more strength and longevity in his ministry.
Leonard Schoeberlein Oh yes, I seem to remember the name of Leonard Schoeberlein from my college days. Your theological works are amazing! We usually just referred to you as LS!
RC is gone , I do not expect to see him in Heaven , and not at all because I will not be there ! He preached Babylonia fatalism inherited from Rome , who got it from Augustine a ten year convert to Manichean fatalism which Rome in the 300s 400s AD embraced and used as a baptism . purgatory > blackmail scheme !
@@kevinpeterson346 What a fool you are. 🙄😖🤦♂️
REFUTING THE FALSE DOCTRINES OF CALVINISM; "Total Depravity."
Total depravity is the "T" in TULIP, and is the first point of Calvinism. The fall of Adam and Eve, Genesis 3, seriously hurt humanity. "Through one man sin entered the world, and death through sin, and thus death spread to all mankind, because all sinned" See; Romans 5:12.
"Total" Corruptness; Calvinists believe the natural human condition is total depravity. They claim that human beings are; "utterly indisposed, disabled, and made opposite to all good, and wholly inclined to all evil, cannot not understand God or act in faith toward God..."
Calvinists also claim; "the man or woman who is dead in sin hates God, and his "carnal mind" is under all circumstances and with all non-born again people "at enmity against God." "His will is stubbornly steeled against God."
>> What Jesus stated about "Total Depravity;"
Jesus did NOT consider that all men were utterly depraved indisposed, disabled, and made opposite to all good, and wholly inclined to all evil, etc. He could see some good in people that was still pure and some faculties untouched by sin. Jesus spoke of a man "in whom there is no deceit" in John 1:47. That was Nathanael, a perfectly honest man, proving that human beings can have unspoiled faculties...
"Jesus saw Nathanael coming to Him, and He says concerning him, "Behold, truly an Israelite, in whom there is no deceit." - John 1:47
>> Other examples from scripture of men acting in faith, doing good and pleasing God, exactly the opposite of the false claims of Calvinism and the false Calvinist doctrine of "Total Depravity"...
1. Job - "And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?" - Job 1:8
2. Enoch - "And Enoch walked with God after he begat Methuselah three hundred years, and begat sons and daughters: And all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty and five years: And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him." - Genesis 5:22 "By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God." - Hebrews 11:5
3. Noah - "These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God." - Genesis 6:9
4. Joseph - Joseph trusted God no matter how bad his situation got. He was a skilled, conscientious administrator. He saved not only his own people but all of Egypt from starvation. "By faith Joseph, when his end was near, spoke about the exodus of the Israelites from Egypt and gave instructions concerning the burial of his bones." - Hebrews 11:22
5. Daniel - Daniel chose not to defile himself with the King’s food upon his arrival in Babylon-the food would have rendered him ceremonially unclean according to the Torah (See; Daniel 1:8). Toward the end of his life he continues to pray to God and not the king, even though it puts him in danger (See; Daniel 6:13). In the 14th chapter of Ezekiel, God uses Daniel, Noah, and Job as examples of extremely righteous men. He’s painting a picture to say that if God chooses to destroy a nation, it gets destroyed-and even three uber-righteous people like Daniel couldn’t save their children. You can read the whole story in Ezekiel 14:12-23.
6. In Hebews chapter eleven we see a list of un-born again, un-regenerated people who acted in great faith toward God. People such as Abel, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Sara, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Moses, Rahab, etc. All of the aforementioned people, contrary to Calvinist false doctrine of the "Total Depravity," acted in great faith toward God.
>>> As you can see, the Calvinist false doctrine of "Total Depravity" is not supported by scripture being refuted by many Biblical examples.
@@kevinpeterson346 What a wicked thing to say about a wonderful man of God..
Wouldn't you love to have this man here for current events?
The Lord continues to raise up leaders. After the Apostle, after Luther, After Calvin, etc... God raise up new leaders for the times. Worship God Almighty!
I believed a lot of this belief before I KNEW OF CALVINISM. WOW. CRAZY, AMAZING! GOD REVEALED A LOT OF TRUTHS, AND STILL DOES, THROUGH HIS WORD, AND I DIDN’T WANT IT TO BE MY OWN understanding, so the more I researched commentaries and teachings - i was BLOWN AWAY AWAY AND my whole life i thought i was “saved” and - this was the first time two years ago, i felt absolutely born again. Felt alive!!!!!!
GOD IS GOOD, HALLELUJAH PRAISE JESUS 🙌🏼
There are so many reasons why the doctrine of original sin is false. Don't believe it. It is not biblical.
Yes amazing
@@raulquintanilla8718 Amen!
Amen!
I learned soo much from this SAGE, IM SO GLAD I WAS ABLE TO ATTEND ONE OF HIS STOPS IN MY HOME TOWN. IT WAS SUCH A WONDERFUL PIECE OF INSTRUCTION AND LEARNING. HE WAS A GREAT MAN OF GOD.
He taught so many unbiblical things.
@@timothyseals3791 no you just hate and don't know the bible
@@iacoponefurio1915 Great way for someone like you to witness to someone so filled with hate like me.
I think this man is one great teacher! I love that I can listen to his teachings on RUclips. Praise God!
God's teachings explained with faithfulness and clarity.
@@PrenticeBoy1688 Ha ha ha !
@@PrenticeBoy1688 Mans teachings in fact he became a false prophet of Manichean teachings !
@@kevinpeterson346 Yawn.
The doctrine of original sin is a false man made doctrine and not biblical.
R.C. RIP. YOUR ALIVE AND WELL HERE ON U TUBE. THE MAN HAS A PERMANENT SMILE ON HIS FACE.
Not now that he is dead !
@@kevinpeterson346 oh he's smiling alright.. being pain free for the rest of eternity, praising your Lord & Savior will do that to you😊
amazing sermon from my heart feeling. thank you pastor R.C
Oh I am learning a lot from so many R.C's teaching on Reformed theology. Thank you so much Ligonier Ministry
There are so many reasons why the doctrine of original sin is false. Don't believe it. It is not biblical.
It’s false teaching, open your eyes and join the Catholic Church so you can be saved.
All 5 points of Calvinism have to stand together they are co-dependent and thank God. Example, if there isn't total depravity then God's grace wouldn't be irresistible. God in his mercy calls his elect to salvation, he puts such a desire in their hearts. How great it is to be called by God to be his child!
456378klmn The problem with your belief, is, Calvin got it wrong. God commands us to teach that He is the saviour of ALL people.
God is not a respecter of people, so for Him to save some and not others, would make Him a sinner, Do wake up Calvinists.
@@dr.alanhales544 God is sovereign and does what he wants ...he did choose certain people over others they are called the elect
God hated Esau and loved Jacob
@@laurapug5389 You are just like R C. Sproul and other Calvinists, You don't know the Bible. God chose a Body, "His Church", which is made up from everyone who believes and gets born again. God commands us to teach that He is the saviour of ALL PEOPLE. but you and R Sproul along with others don't believe God, you believe the Calvinist's teachings.
You are a child of MANI as is RC Sproul if you advance Romes , Augustines Manichean fatalism aka Tulip !
Why do we avoid telling arminians to explain these verses?
Romans 8:28-33
"And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose."
"For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren."
"Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified."
"What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?"
"He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?"
"Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth."
(Then in the very next chapter...)
Romans 9:11-24
"(For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;)"
"It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger."
"As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated."
"What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid."
"For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion."
"So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that showeth mercy."
"For the Scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might show my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth."
"Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth."
"Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will?"
"Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?"
"Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honor, and another unto dishonor?"
"What if God, willing to show his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:"
"And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,"
"Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?"
(Or even simple ones like this, since they always hold up the calling of the gospel apart from God's sovereign election...)
Matthew 22:14
"For many are called, but few are chosen."
(Could predestination and election be any clearer?)
Praise God for RC's ministry with his obedience and faithfulness to Christ.
Amen for these theological teachings.
To CHRIST be alone all the glory!
I'm just amazed how this doctrine that I have been strongly convicted and believe first are now being explained by this preachers. Since I came to understand, believe and trust the Gospel of Christ that I've heard from sir Paul Washer everything that I need to know followed.
He has some hard hitting stuff! Keep on keeping on
Look up Baucham Lawson Sproul
@@iacoponefurio1915 yeah I do, check out sir Alistair Begg also.
If God does not open the understanding of our heart we cant comprehend this mystery for it is spiritually discerned
There are so many reasons why the doctrine of original sin is false. Don't believe it. It is not biblical.
@@timothyseals3791 What is your view on why every person since Adam and Eve are all sinners??? Not saying anyone is right and wrong just curious as to what your thoughts on the subject are. To be clear I do believe in the doctrine of original sin as it may not be clearly stated in the bible as a matter of fact, but what conclusion have you come to???
@@graham5990 The doctrine of original sin claims that all people are sinners or born with a sin nature because of Adam. Not 1 verse in the bible says that.
People become sinners by choice, not because of what someone else did. Sin is not something a person can inherit. Sin is a choice we make to disobey God.
No person is born a sinner or born with a sin nature.
@@timothyseals3791 Jesus said to Nicodemus "Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the spirit gives birth to spirit". The flesh IS our sin nature. As cute as babies are laughing at someone getting hurt is not pure. Crying to manipulate someone to hold you is not pure. That is why the virgin birth is so key for Jesus in being our savior. He was not born of the flesh "in sin" which is why he was tempted as us but never fell. No-where in the bible does it say we are born perfect until our first sin either so we need to dig deeper into scripture to come to our best conclusion. Not saying anyone is right or wrong that is just the conclusion i come to from the studies i have done. God bless brother
@@graham5990 The bible says that Jesus was born of the same flesh and blood as us. You say Jesus was not born of the flesh "in sin". Nobody was born of the flesh "in sin". We are all born of the flesh, including Jesus.
R.C. Sproul once described how he taught a course in theology at a college where the students did not generally come from a reformed background. He began by giving an exposition on total depravity, and then asked the students if they were persuaded this was the biblical view of human sinfulness. Everyone in the class raised their hands, and he wrote down the number of students who agreed. As the course went on and he taught the other letters the students became uncomfortable, and the number who expressed confidence in total depravity steadily decreased. His point was that if total depravity is properly understood, the other four points fall in line, they become corollaries of the first point. So I suspect three point Calvinism would not have made sense to him.
ruclips.net/video/RvUpyxnqAow/видео.html
He said that very thing in this video.
@@iamshredder3587 Whoops. I meant to make that comment on a different video.
@@roderictaylor Oh ok, it happens. It was just weird cause I was reading your comment as he was saying it haha.
@@iamshredder3587 Yeah. ^^ I was watching another video, then watched this video to be sure I was remembering things accurately. Then posted here instead of the original video by mistake.
I LEARNED a great deal tonight
Amazement with the clarity of his lectures but R.C Sproul views of the 5 point of Calvinism; TULIP is leaning towards a Molinist 5 points of ROSES. For instance as he agrees with the Radical instead of Total, also can be seen as he agrees with Sovereign instead of Unconditional in other lectures.
Can you spell out ROSES please. Thanks
Trying to watch this, but I can't help being distracted by the amazing head of hair in front of R.C. LOL
😂 once you see it, you can't unsee it haha
Too right, that’s nice hair 😂
Thanks for the video!
Is there a place where I can watch every episode from this show online? I used to watch it on T.V., but I no longer have T.V., and they seem to be showing people other than R.C. anyway.
Hi bbryant0620. The rest of this series can be viewed at the below link, as well as many more free series from Ligonier.
www.ligonier.org/learn/series/?filter=free
@@ligonier I have a question. When a person needs to be changed at his core/heart it is clear that he has no other possibility than to believe in Christ. So if that is true total depravity proofes the other points. But why does a person needs to be changed at his core to be able to trust in the lord? Why can't god bring a person to the state that he is able to decide wether he want's to believe or not on a level where it is a "real" decision where he is not that sure so that he can also deny it? It's a real question that I have so please help me with it. Becouse I don't know a bible verse that says how much god's pulling is. By the way I'm from germany so my grammar is not perfect😅
@@clemensschonmalwasthatistd3254
first He gives you the new birth. a man must be born again in order to see the kingdom of God. holy God does this (we don't know how exactly. by His perfect supernatural will).
then He gives you the faith to believe unto the Lord Jesus Christ. you have been called, and predestined, and justified. then the process of sanctification begins. that could take many forms and times. it could take years as in my case or a few minutes, as the thief on the cross. it actually takes a lifetime.
it is sometimes not easy to spot a true christian because their sanctification may take a while. they may be a baby christian for a while (me). you will spot the christian by the fruit. so if someone who claims to be a christian doesn't believe in the entirety inerrant infallible word of God, that may or may not mean he is a christian. he may in fact be regenerate, but the total evidence (fruit) may not be so evident until they start to mature and grow in the faith. or....they may eventually not really grow at all. and then it could be more evident that in fact that person was not truly born again in the first place. but that is not our concern (with all due respect). only Holy God can save, through the shed blood of the sacrifice and atoning death on the cross by His Son.
i hope this sheds some light. help me brothers, and forgive if i have left any truths out. i don't do well in these quick posts. i know there are many more details involved.
@@conanlabiche thank you👍
@@conanlabiche Romans 10 tells us how a person comes to faith by the hearing of the word, together with the spirit works faith in our hearts unto regeneration then salvation. The rest you're right on!
Some people think God's sovereignty and human free will cannot exist together even when it comes to our salvation. That somehow God's sovereign choice violates humam free will and makes God a monster. I honestly don't know why some have such a difficulty with these biblical doctrines, but then again even the light we receive to accept God's truth is in itself a gift. I'm truly humbled for these great, glorious, biblical, sound doctrines. I don't even care the name Calvinism, it is as biblical as it comes, so yes, I affirm it with all my being.
Mans wisdom says Gods choosing of some is monstrous thus the rejection of your dire state of sin (dead) Ephesians 2:1 ; Gods ways are NOT mans ways nor His thoughts your thoughts....psalm 50:21
God bless!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
im sorry I've watch about 3/4 of this video and havent heard a verse reference
There are so many reasons why the doctrine of original sin is false. Don't believe it. It is not biblical.
This is a lecture not a sermon. His explaining the historical reformed faith, not preaching.
@@michaelblanco6665 And he is giving wrong information.
But isn't it based on SCRIPTURE 🤔 if it's Biblical, why not show the foundation for it🤨
@@clarkl4177Good question! This video is Part 1 which is about historical events and doctrines and an explanation of what this doctrines mean and what they don't mean. And of course there's almost no room for scripture references in such a video.
In Part 2 there are more scripture references mentioned (John 6,63-65; John 3,1-8) and he explains why they mean what they say. In Part 2 he also said what is written in Romans 7,14-24 and Ephesians 2,1-3. These Bible passages support the first point of TULIP too. For "many" more scripture references I would recommend Jeff Durbin and John MacArthur. Their sermons about calvinism are full of scriptural evidence!
But it should also be mentioned that Sproul quoted Psalm 51,7 for natural sin in 11:18-11:55 of this video. Why aren't you listening carefully to what he said and claim there was "no" verse mentioned? Are you even open for the idea that scripture could teach it?
Romans 10:13
For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
It's so hard for so many to believe that they really are not Wonder good people but indeed have hearts that are deceitfully wicked and beyond cure.
There are so many reasons why the doctrine of original sin is false. Don't believe it. It is not biblical.
@@timothyseals3791 I'm starting to wonder myself....it doesn't say that our nature's were changed after the sin of Adam in Genesis anywhere...all the church fathers taught free will before Augustine came along and taught total depravity which he got from the gnostics (manaicheans). I always thought that Augustine looked like a hero against the Pelagianists...but now I know that the Pelagianists actually held to the same view as the church fathers (free will).
@@trevortonner106 Too bad more people can not understand this.
@@trevortonner106 the whole bible and reality testify
You have to really be averse to the bible and reality you certainly never read it
All have sinned.
Lying counterfeit fake.
@@trevortonner106 funny part is you answer your own fake profiles haha
I love the fact that Paul cites to two psalms in Romans 3 which TULIPs depend upon to support total depravity. If David wrote the psalms, he is seeking God and is thereby necessarily excluded from the statement as he is actually and really seeking God and we have written proof of the same. So Paul is using a generalist and not a grounds for proof text. Here is another: Proverb 30:2 Oh by the way, I believe TULIP should stand for The Uppity Lilliputians Of Protestantism.
David was already regenerate when he wrote the Psalms…he was chosen through Samuel as a youth…got anything else?
Psalm 65:4
John 3:19-21
Which scripture says man is totally depraved and unable to respond to the gospel? Without reading into the text?
Just about all of them haha
You should try to actually READ the bible
Thanks for your advice, but I read the Bible. I just don't read it with a particular lens. The gospel is the power of God unto Salvation for those that believe, unless you are a Calvinist then its just for the elect.
@@WayneFocus you definitely do not read the bible you should have zero comprehension of it.
Every inclination of your soul is 9nly evil continually and you are desperately wicked deceitful above all and beyond comprehension.
Pretty straightforward anyone reading it cannot miss it fakeboy.
@@WayneFocus those that believe are the elect cult fake
Read the Bible. Word search elect
I mean you yourself not the 5 cookie cutter verses Joel osteen jr taught you
@@iacoponefurio1915 You are quite rude, is this behaviour fitting of a believer?
Excellent teaching reminds me of my days at Bible College.
thanks
Thanks for what?
i love this doctrine.
perfect antidote for pride.
And God’s goodness
@@billlythekid5780 a perfect antidote for God's goodness?! LOL :D
Ezekiel 33:11- 19
Hebrews 3:12
Acts 7:51
2 Chronicles 16:9
Acts 17:11-12
Acts 17:24-31
John 1:29
1John 2:1-6
1Peter 3:12
1 Timothy 1:13
John 3:16,17
Exodus 10:3
Jeremiah 29:13
Joshua 24:15
1 John 5:19
Hebrews 4:7
Genesis 4:7
Romans 10:21
Isaiah 45:22
I have fought the good fight, I have finished the race, I have kept the faith. 2 Timothy 4:7
Titus 2:11
11For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,12Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; 13Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
Isaiah 45;22
Turn to Me, and be saved, all the ends of the earth; For I am God, and there is no other.
Dead in sin = My son who was dead
Ephesians 2:5. = Luke 15:10-24
John 6:39,40
What are you trying to say?
@@universalchiro I am saying that there are many scriptures that contradict Reformed theology. And they don't like to talk about it. That's why the reformed preachers turn off the comments section. After their preaching it's end of discussion.
Brian Schallow what exactly do you disagree with? And do you know why reformed theology came up?
0 of those scriptures helps you in any statement you have made against reformed theology???? I’m confused because all these verses would show exactly the points he was trying to make. And yes I just went through all of those to see and it seems you have read those verses by themselves. Again do you know the intentions of reformed theology and what it tries to oppose?
@@abielballart1057 please feel free to tell me what Reformed Theology really is and I will answer. Thank you.
We are all born spitualy dead, we absolutely cannot understand spitual thing. We are hustile towards God , and anything that reminds us of God, until God moves in our Hearts, and change our intent, our thinking, as we think, we live.
LINTON BROWNE were Cain and abel born spiritually dead? If so how could they both here from God, and choose to do right or wrong
LINTON BROWNE It doesn’t mean because we are born Spiritual dead that we cannot repent and believe the Gospel? Please show me one where the Bible says because men are Spiritual dead that they can’t believe they are sinners in need of Jesus to save them?
When the man came up to the Apostles and said “Sirs what must I do to be saved” did they reply and say “there’s nothing you can do because you are Spiritually dead”
NO they said - believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved.
Someone can believe in Jesus without having to Be Spiritual
These people internally hate themselves for whatever reason and now is a Doctrine to support that
Is it even possible for the Living God to fashion a dead spirit in the womb that is made in His image and likeness?
The tradition of Original Sin is unbiblical.
We get our corrupted flesh from Adam and Eve, true, but they had zero ability to produce any spirit offspring. Our spirit in the womb comes directly from God (Zechariah 12,1). And God calls babies a gift from Him, and that all gifts are good that come from God.
Look at Jesus, He often used little ones to illustrate what we should be like. Which is opposite of original sin tradition. The Pharisees believed people were born in sin (John 9,34).
Always, every time, sin is earned and never gifted or inherited. Ezekiel 18 proves this.
@@universalchiro The bible is clear. God created perfect sinless humans. Humans disobeyed God and plunged humanity in sin. Adam was our federal representative, we were in him and came from him except CHRIST. Therefore we are conceived and born in sin, a sinner is spiritually dead, incapable of seeing, hearing, doing anything righteous, why? HE IS DEAD!!!.
He requires an outside force to give him life, this force is actually not a force, it is the life giving spirit, The Holy Spirit himself. We cannot have life no matter how hard we try ( and we do not and cannot try) because WE ARE BORN SPIRITUALLY DEAD!!!!.
I wish I could find scripture to support this doctrine. I can't seem to find any anywhere
It's called the Bible lol you have to OPEN It
He will gather his elect from the 4 winds.
Zephaniah 1:7
Isaiah 1
All of Romans
Entire Bible
Work search eklektos in the koine Greek
@@uncasunga1800 Hi, I hope you are well. Can you offer me a concise explanation on how any of the scriptures you provided affirms the doctrine of total depravity. Thank you.
@@brina691 any honest non zombie cannot.miss it
Romans 3:23
New International Version
23 for all have sinned(A) and fall short of the glory of God
@@iacoponefurio1915 Can you provide help to me?
God's sovereignty and man's free will cannot be explained in such a dogmatic way. God is so sovereign he can work out his will, within the free will he sovereignly gave us.
Please. Teach what you know. You explained why you do not except RC Sprouls explanation. Explain yours.
I say to myself you not only cannot but you will not. This is Bilical Theology at its best. I hope you make the right decision for yourself. RC makes perfect sense.
Judy Plummer
Regeneration happens after faith....
Jhn 7:38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.
39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)
All that believed would receive the Spirit after Jesus’ resurrection and ascension....
Jhn 14: 17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
Jhn 15: 26 ¶ But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:
Jhn 16: 7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
The Holy Spirit is first given here....
Jhn 20: 22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:
So they didn’t receive the Holy Spirit until after the resurrection as Jesus stated in John 7. That’s well after the disciples believed, and many others as well......
Jhn 2: 23 ¶ Now when he was in Jerusalem at the passover, in the feast day, many believed in his name, when they saw the miracles which he did.
Luk 7: 50 ¶ And he said to the woman, Thy faith hath saved thee; go in peace.
Even after the resurrection, faith still preceded regeneration.....
Eph 1: 13 ¶ In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
Acts 5:32 And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.
Just to clarify what regeneration is. It is the indwelling of the Holy Spirit....
Rom 8: 9 ¶ But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
Spiritual life happens after belief.....
Jhn 20:31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.
The disciples hadn’t received this life before the resurrection of Christ.....
Jhn 14:19 ¶ Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.
Peter hadn’t yet been converted.....
Luk 22:32 But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren.
(Matt 18:3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.)
RC makes no biblical sense !
@@evanu6579 Well stated !
RC Sproul was a false teacher.
Very interesting & valid comments, is there an "elect" chosen unto salvation before the foundation of the world ? , YES !!!, is the gospel of Christ for "whosoever will" YES !!!!
@skat natter, You quoted: ''Very interesting & valid comments, is there an "elect" chosen unto salvation before the foundation of the world ? , YES !!!, is the gospel of Christ for "whosoever will" YES !!!!''=>>> My RESPONSE: Definitely, Because those ''whosoever will'' are also those who were elected to be saved since the foundation of the world...
Amen and Amen. Whosoever will is whosoever is elected.
@@reynaldodavid2913Jo Christ in the garden yet , covered Adam and Eve and **** all humanity not yet seeded out = EVERYBODY !
@@kevinpeterson346, Adam and Eve, and their first two sons were from the Beginning of the world...Adam and Eve were created right after the creation of the world and their children who populated the world are the seeds carrier of both the Elect and the Reprobates... Seth was the carrier of the seed of the Elect, and Cain was the Carrier of the seed of the reprobates... God by His foreknowledge, choose already the Elect to be saved, and choose the reprobates to be cast to the lake of fire... Ephesians 1:4 (NIV) ''For he chose us in him before the creation of the world to be holy and blameless in his sight. In love''
Whosoever also means that we still don't know who will believe yet, so we preach and preach
Great
There are so many reasons why the doctrine of original sin is false. Don't believe it. It is not biblical.
@@timothyseals3791 you are so triggered you fake bible hater
@@iacoponefurio1915 I can tell you are not go very far with God.
@@iacoponefurio1915 It's the original sin in me. I can not help myself. Will you help me get rid of the original sin in me?
@@timothyseals3791 you dont know anything about God you lying fake piece of human garbage
You are so desperate to spread your goofy false bible rejecting nonsense you spend all day on the internet hahaha
if we sin, because we are sinners....how would that affect the responsibility for such actions....
We were DEAD in sin. (a dead man cannot do anything to be made alive, but needs LIFE)
so then God in His great mercy MADE US ALIVE in Christ.
We did nothing...Jesus did everything. We were made alive with Christ, seated with Him in heavenly places
and Christ lives in us to do and will His good pleasure!
Ephesians 2:1-10,
Philippians 2 "13 For it is God who works in you both to will and to work, for his good pleasure."
Ezekiel 36 "5 I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you will be clean. I will cleanse you from all your filthiness, and from all your idols. 26 I will also give you a new heart, and I will put a new spirit within you. I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you a heart of flesh. 27 I will put my Spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes. You will keep my ordinances and do them."
There are so many reasons why the doctrine of original sin is false. Don't believe it. It is not biblical.
False theology backed by Prophesy about Israel ? Come on now that is great and silly step to take !
Dead is NEVER SHOWN in the scriptures to mean MORAL INABILITY to respond to God’s truth.
Dead means SPIRITUALLY SEPARATED from the presence of God due to sin and the only way to get into His presence is through Christ.
**If we were actually dead as reformers portray then we wouldn’t even be able to sin!**
Scripture supports a totally depraved man that is spiritually separated from God and obviously unable to save Himself.
This does NOT mean man is totally incapable of responding to Him.
Dead does not relate to your “ability” but to your RELATIONSHIP.
...According to John 5:24 a dead man is able to hear and believe and pass from death to life:
JOHN 5:24-29
24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, HE THAT HEARETH MY WORD, AND BELIEVETH on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but IS PASSED FROM DEATH UNTO LIFE.
25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and NOW IS, when THE DEAD SHALL HEAR THE VOICE OF THE SON OF GOD: AND THEY THAT HEAR SHALL LIVE.
26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;
27 And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man.
28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
Total MORAL depravity NOT inability
... According to John 5:40 Jesus says, “Ye will not” and He doesn’t say “Ye are not able to,”
JOHN 5:40
40 And YE WILL NOT COME TO ME, THAT YE MIGHT HAVE LIFE.
JOHN 6:35
35 And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: HE THAT COMETH TO ME shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.
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Mankind has total moral depravity, completely separated from God Spiritually and is totally lost and helpless to save himself and would remain in his fallen state IF left on his own unless God took the first step and initiated the opportunity to be saved.
THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT WE’RE NOT ON OUR OWN ANYMORE!
God has taken the DIVINE INITIATIVE!
He sent HIS SON.
He sent HIS HOLY SPIRIT.
He gave us HIS WORD.
He speaks to us through HIS CREATION.
What more do you want?
What more do you need?
Was God’s plan not sufficient enough?
Was it not perfect?
Is Christ not sufficient enough?
Is God’s word not sufficient enough?
Is all of creation not sufficient enough?
Is everything that God’s done in taking the DIVINE INITIATIVE and first step towards us not compelling or persuasive enough that He STILL has to effectually make us believe or else none would come to Him?
Do you not believe the Holy Spirit is doing His job properly???
JOHN 16:7-9
7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
8 And when he is come, HE WILL REPROVE THE WORLD OF SIN, AND OF RIGHTEOUSNESS, AND OF JUDGMENT:
9 OF SIN, BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE NOT ON ME;
...God HAS in fact took that first step towards us in an effort to reconcile mankind back to Himself.
While we were yet sinners wanting nothing to do with God and His ways He chose to reach out to us.
He chose to reach out to the world while we spat on His face, mocked and shouted crucify Him.
He’s done all this.
It’s finished.
I love your submission but the question we should ask ourselves is this, "Does God know those who will receive him?" Second question, "is his election based on whether man will respond to him or not?" Biblically, we know that God knows all things and due to that the first answer to the first question is YES! But the second question takes a different turn. If God's election and salvation is based on whether or not man will receive him then its either God is not all knowing or he is not sovereign. John 5:40 you quoted has a different wording and rendering in the Greek. The phrase " you are not willing" which is θέλετε in the Greek is a present indicative active - 2nd Person Plural. This phrase is a statement of fact and not a statement of enticement. It is to indicate the fact of their refusal to come to him because of the hardness of their heart. Did Jesus know those who will believe or not believe in him? yes!! John 6:64 proves his perfect knowledge. Yet he speaks to them concerning their unwillingness not because he did not know they wouldn't come to him but to state the fact of their hearts and their stiff-necked disposition. God knows who will believe and who will reject yet his election and salvation is not based on the response of man but his grace to save who he shows mercy and compassion on whom he shows compassion. If man can respond to God, then there would be no need to the quickening act of the Spirit in salvation (Ephesians 2). His invitation to all is in context to whom he shows mercy and compassion. You can never morally hold God to contempt for not saving everyone after all what we all deserve is condemnation.
We cannot choose God...only God can put it in us....
Preaching Christ Alliance No His election is not dependent on knowing who will believe.
I’m not at Arminian.
Preaching Christ Alliance please press “reply” when responding or else the person doesn’t get a notification.
You are correct my friend. I can see that you have not been deceived by reading The Institutes of the Calvin Religion. Theologians are great at distorting the simple message of the Gospel that even a child can explain to them. How exactly it works NO ONE KNOWS. Ours is not to question why, ours is to do or die.
*13:22* - I am confused by these two different descriptions of depravity. I understand total depravity, because the word "total" is an adjective, but the word "utter" is a verb. It's an action word. It's something you do. I'm just... *_why?_* 😖😵💫
“Utter” is also an adjective, meaning complete, absolute, total:
"Charles stared at her in utter amazement." 🙂
Amen!!!
I guess the problem I have with TULIP is if you believe it, what's the point of believing it?
If your chosen by God then you will be saved, if you are not called you cant be saved. So what is the point of spreading the message?
Because it has massive ramifications for evangelism and knowing the character of God versus man. Not everything has to have salvation consequences to be important.
@@bama97i it makes evangelism moot. Either God chooses to extend his grace to you or he doesnt.
@@rickengle7208 using unbiblical presuppositions of salvation and evangelism, yes. Not so using the biblical understanding of both though.
@@bama97i not following you friend. If there is nothing we can do or say to impact our own, or anyone elses salvation whats the point of even trying?
There is no impetus to improve yourself or try to be a better person. If you are a murderer but God calls you, then you will stop being a murderer and be saved due to irresistable grace but if God does not call you there is zero reason to repent or resist your negative urges because nothing you do will impact where you end up.
There are no more consequences for anyones actions.
If your final destination is completely up to the whims of God then why not live a hedonistic life.
If God is planning on extending grace then you will be eventually saved and nothing bad you did up to that point will matter.
If God doesnt extend grace then no amount of good deeds, praise or sacrifice will help you so you might as well live selfishly till you see which way God is going to go for you.
Dont get me wrong. I am 100% a believer and have my own testimony as to how God found me and I am almost completely on board with TULIP. Its just this one part that doesnt seem right.
@@rickengle7208 what does the Bible say?
So many provisionalists remain in heresy because they simply don't want to accept this Biblical truth.
Well , it is not Biblical so there is that one small detail ?
@@kevinpeterson346
Then, as respectfully as I can say this, you do not understand the Bible. As a result of the fall, every aspect of man (his mind, his will, his emotions, his flesh) has been corrupted by sin (Ephesians 2:1-3, Romans 3:10-11, 5:12-21) - while he is not wholly corrupt, like a drop of coloring placed into a glass of water, the corruption that he has extends to every part of his being. Sin colors what we love and drives our desires, even determining our will, and because of that, sinners cannot reform their own hearts by the sheer power of their own will any more than they can raise their IQ by a sheer act of the will since their own wills are fallen and all that they desire is only evil continually (John 3:19, 8:34, 36, 1 Corinthians 2:14, Genesis 6:5). Can the Ethiopian change his skin or the leopard his spots? Then you also can do good who are accustomed to doing evil, Jeremiah 13:23. The mind set on the flesh is hostile toward God; for it does not subject itself to the law of God, for it is not even able to do so, Romans 8:7. Sinners cannot free themselves from the bondage of evil by the power of their own will because the will itself is enslaved to sin and does not want to do anything other than sin (Genesis 8:21). Indeed, if a man is to believe in God, it takes a miracle of God to will and to work within him to do according to God's good pleasure (Philippians 2:13, John 6:44), (cf. Isaiah 26:12).
John 3:19 - This is the judgment, that the Light has come into the world, and men loved the darkness rather than the Light, for their deeds were evil.
@@lawrencestanley8989 There are so many reasons why the doctrine of original sin is false. Don't believe it. It is not biblical.
@@timothyseals3791
Sir, I believe it because the Bible teaches it. Romans 5 is a great place to start. Actually, if you would like a good exposition of Romans 5, then I highly suggest you pick up John Murray's book, "The Imputation of Adam's Sin."
@@lawrencestanley8989 Can you give me 1 verse in Romans 5 that teaches that were are totally depraved or 1 verse in Romans 5 that says were are born/created sinful?
I would switch that term "original sin" for "residual sin". Because we all pick up where our first parents, Adam & Eve, left off.
"Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:" Romans 5:12 KJV
Paul said in his flesh dwelt no good thing. Yet in his mind he wanted to serve the Lord. The context is his life under the Mosaic Law (see logical flow of Romans 7). So man is not totally depraved. He just is drawn to sin and the Law makes it worse.
This is a thoroughly debunked moronic myth
Can someone please tell me at what point in time did mankind become totally depraved? Were Cain and Abel totally depraved? If so why does God talk to Cain as if Cain has a free will and can make a choice to do right or wrong. Genesis 6 And the LORD said unto Cain, Why art thou angry {wroth}? And why is thy countenance fallen? 7If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? And if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. Here we have Cain, a totally depraved man, and God is giving him a choice between doing right or doing wrong. Now to the reformed theologians God is just playing a game with Cain because he knows Cain really doesn't have the ability to choose. So the reformed theologians are making God a liar. Because God is saying that Cain can make a choice between right or wrong, when in reality Cain cannot choose on his own. All throughout the Bible God gives people choices to make. Now if we are incapable of really making a choice of our own will, than this again makes God a liar. To me this is a dangerous and destructive doctrine by proud arrogant theologians who think they have God figured out.
You did not listen.
Miriam Reutter
What is he missing?
And listen to who by the way?
Is this a cult?
Brian Schallow if you choose God and get to heaven, but another doesn’t make that same choice, was it because you were more spiritual/smarter/better?
jason trevino
The bible actually speaks to this.....
Matt 7: 24 ¶ Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto 👉🏻a wise man,👈🏻 which built his house upon a rock:
2Tim 3: 15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to 👉🏻make thee wise unto salvation👈🏻 through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
Acts 17: 11 These 👉🏻were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind,👈🏻 and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.
12 👉🏻Therefore many of them believed;👈🏻 also of honourable women which were Greeks, and of men, not a few.
Dan 12: 3 And 👉🏻they that be wise👈🏻 shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.
Pro 8: 17 I love them that love me; and those that seek me early shall find me.
(That’s wisdom speaking)
Pro 8: 35 For whoso findeth me findeth life, and shall obtain favour of the LORD.
So since the bible clearly says that those who believe are wise and that because some were more noble they believed, how could you ever think that man had no responsibility to exercise faith? What did he do to make him to be considered wise?
Evan U that does make sense. Question, so does the choosing to exercise faith precede being justified, and once this faith is activated then the person is justified?
We are all born dead sinners unless we are made alive by God by believing and trusting in Jesus and His sacrificial death on our behalf. Even our belief and faith in Him is God's work, not ours. Romans 8:29-30 For God knew his people in advance, and he chose them to become like his Son, so that his Son would be the firstborn among many brothers and sisters. And having chosen them, he called them to come to him. And having called them, he gave them right standing with himself. And having given them right standing, he gave them his glory.
DR in TX
If we are born sinners, then why does the bible say that man has sinned from his youth in so many occasions?. Why was Cain able to talk with God? Why does the bible say that children have no knowledge of good and evil?
Original Sin is an unbiblical doctrine.
DR in TX We are not born dead sinners - We are born dead in sin. There’s a big difference- Dead in sin only means slaves to sin until we are set free from sin through Jesus. It does not mean we don’t have the ability to believe we are sinners and to believe Jesus can save us.
Read the Bible for what it says and not what you want it to say.
Is there a difference between total depravity and total corruption?
Why do you care? You think man is inherently good. You therefore have no need for a savior
All those man made doctrines bring so much devision within the church. They were invented to make men feel important. The consequences: the splitting of the body of Christ and disunity. Those questions are not even important to understand that Christ died so that we can be safed. One can describe a cow as a biological being, which consumes herbaceous plants but in the end it's only a fancy way of saying: a cow is an animal that eats grass. But if it makes you feel better, people, keep on using big terms for unimportant questions nobody asked to describe very unimportant matters for salvation. He came to save us. Period. Any further doctrine is man-made.
There are so many reasons why the doctrine of original sin is false. Don't believe it. It is not biblical.
If Cain was "totally depraved" why did God give him a choice? Did Cain have the same choice as Abel? Total depravity as the Calvinist define it is not biblical. Then the Calvinist have to go and add words to fit their religion. Like irresistible Grace which is not found in scripture.
Jay thomas.good question i don't know the answer. The fall has taken place. Another scripture says the heart of man is desperately wicked, who can know it ? Pray for me thanks.
@@kenkelble358 The doctrine of original sin is a false man made doctrine and not biblical.
@@kenkelble358 I believe the verse states a totally different view in the original .
If we inherited Adam’s sin and were born with a sinful nature, we have Bible contradictions.
The Bible does not teach that man is born with a sinful nature (not in Romans 5, not in Ephesians 2, not in any psalms, not anywhere). This illogical idea (that babies are sinners) can be traced back to Augustine and even all the way back to the Gnostics.
You are not a Christian and you do not believe the bible
@@iacoponefurio1915 How can you tell?
@@iacoponefurio1915 I figured you would not respond like a true Christian.
@@timothyseals3791 you have no idea what a Christian is you wacked out brainless cult zombie haha
What a joke
seals jim jones wannabe canto find any followers in real life because you are so obviously goofy haha
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Compared to original
Righteousness which adam and eve had until they fell
Sin entered the world
Only christ's righteousness will satisfy the fathers justice!
The doctrine of original sin is a false man made doctrine and not biblical.
The doctrine of "total depravity" or "total inability" is false. Scripture is clear that the most vile and wicked can still respond and humble themselves before God. Here are 2 Biblical examples:
In the OT, King Ahab was the king of Samaria was more evil and Scripture says there was no one like him when it came to evil - 1 Kings 21:25
1 Kings 21:25-26 - 25 (There was never anyone like Ahab, who sold himself to do evil in the eyes of the Lord, urged on by Jezebel his wife. 26 He behaved in the VILEST MANNER by going after idols, like the Amorites the Lord drove out before Israel.)
King Ahab was persuaded by his wife Jezebel to kill Naboth so he could acquire his vineyard in 1 Kings 21. Jezebel set up a conspiracy to have Naboth killed so that Ahab could acquire the vineyard which Naboth refused to sell to Ahab. God then declared disaster on Ahab in 1 Kings21:19, and 1 Kings 21:21 for the murder of Naboth.
It says in 1 Kings 21:27-29 - 27 When Ahab heard these words, he tore his clothes, put on sackcloth and fasted. He lay in sackcloth and went around MEEKLY.
28 Then the word of the Lord came to Elijah the Tishbite: 29 “Have you noticed how Ahab HAS HUMBLED HIMSELF BEFORE ME? Because HE HAS HUMBLED HIMSELF, I will not bring this disaster in his day, but I will bring it on his house in the days of his son.”
Here is clearly a man who is depraved and behaved in the vilest manner, but he HUMBLED himself before the Lord. It is also clear that Ahab's humbling himself before God was a genuine act because God responded to it by postponing the disaster that He was going to bring upon him. God brought it about later in 1 Kings 22:34-38.
King Manasseh of Judah in 2 Chronicles 33 was very evil. He erected altars to
the Baals, made Asherah Poles, bowed down to the starry hosts and worshiped
them. He sacrificed his sons in the fire, and practiced sorcery, divination, witchcraft
and consulted with mediums and spiritists. As a result of Manasseh's grievous sins,
God gave him and his people into the hands of the Assyrian army commanders.
In 2 Chronicles 33:12-13, Manasseh came to his senses and sought and HUMBLED
himself greatly before God. Manasseh's seeking and humbling were genuine because
God responded to it as indicated in 33:13 and God brought him back to Jerusalem and
to his kingdom. Scripture then says that "Manasseh" knew that the Lord is God."
This is another account in addition to the account of King Ahab who HUMBLED him
self greatly before God which shows that an utterly depraved person can still seek
after God. These 2 accounts of King Manasseh and King Ahab refutes Calvinism's
false doctrine of "total depravity" or "total inability".
***** No, we can still go to Him as evidenced in the examples of King Ahab and King Manasseh who were 2 of the most depraved men on the face of the earth.
Scripture is clear that these 2 men HUMBLED themselves before God. God did not go to them, but they sought God by humbling themselves before Him.
Jesus commends the centurion's great faith in Matthew 8:10, and Luke 7:9 because the centurion's great faith was generated from within his own heart. He sought after God. God did not seek him.
he humbled himself before God to escape the penalty of sin after God persuaded him by saying he was going to destroy him he repented only in selfpreservation the most viel and wiked man will want to repent in front of a judge to preserve himself, but did his heart actually change from hating his to loving him dose he now love God dose he now have faith
Timothy Dunn In 2 Chronicles 33:12-13, Manasseh came to his senses and sought and HUMBLED himself greatly before God. Manasseh's seeking and humbling were GENUINE because God RESPONDED to it as indicated in 33:13 and God brought him back to Jerusalem and to his kingdom. Scripture then says that "Manasseh knew that the Lord is God."
wtom04 did Israel chose God, or did God chose Israel?
For God so loved some of the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever was forced to believe in Him, would not perish, but have everlasting life.
Exactly. Calvinists have to rewrite the bible to force their gnostic heresy into the texts.
were you forced to be born, or did you choose to be born?
John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born from above he cannot *see* the kingdom of God.
@@aletheia8054 And to think that John got it so wrong, just a few sentences later. God didn’t love the world. The Bible says He does, but Calvinists know better than to believe everything they read.
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John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
There is not another verse that overturned what Jesus said.
“So” in verse 16 in an adverb not an adjective.
Interesting teaching, but falls short of my expectations from RC
It seems like he is just playing with words instead of going to the scriptures to prove his point.
You failing to comprehend it doesn't change its veracity lol
I have great reverence for Dr. Sproul and so many of the reformed teachers. However, I can not accept the notion of total depravity when God stated: "Then the Lord God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil." He tells us exactly what we are as a result of the fall, right from the beginning. If totally depravity was doctrinally sound, He would have said something much different.
At the age to be accountable Jesus at 12 went to teach and discuss theology with others ! His innocence was over at 12 , he then knew Good and evil and God no longer winked at any lack of maturity to distinguish Good from evil , sin is simply choosing what one knows is not Good ! .
Let me save you some time watching this video. Adam and eve ate the apple and sin came into the world thus putting man in a sinful fallen state. These theologians take a simplistic matter that bible explains so easily then they try to get deep and sound intelligent by adding a ton of unnecessary jargon and titles they then get confused and spend the rest of thier life writing books and reading other books by other theologians that have more jargon and miss the main purpose of the bible which is to go into all the world preach the gospel and win souls and disciple them not build a library then spend your life in that examining works that were written 300 years ago. It 2019 souls are perishing.
It is the gospel and we should know it.
Total depravity does not mean total inability. God offers salvation to all people. All people have the choice and ability to respond that offer. The reason some people do not accept the gift of salvation is because they CHOSE to refuse to love the truth. If people were born being completely unable to believe, then the reason people don't believe is God's fault, not theirs. Calvinism places the onus on God and removes it from man. Calvinism is the ultimate small brain theology.
False. Only due to God's irresistible grace can the elect have the ability to have faith.
@@donaldjoy4023 False. God's grace is the offer of salvation that he brings to ALL PEOPLE.
For the GRACE of God has appeared that OFFERS salvation to ALL PEOPLE. (Titus 2:11).
You are insulting God by diminishing his grace.
Calvinists do not have a single verse that says faith comes from election or regeneration. That is why calvinism is unbiblical and a lie. The bible says faith comes from hearing the gospel. If Calvinism were true, then this verse should say faith comes from election or regeneration.
Faith comes from hearing the message, and the message is heard through the word about Christ. (Romans 10:17)
1. Salvation comes through faith.
2. Faith comes from preaching and hearing the gospel.
3. Preaching the gospel requires people to do something.
4. Listening to the gospel requires people to do something
5. Therefore God has sovereignly chosen for salvation to come through people doing something.
@@sethrankin5319 Romans 9
@@sethrankin5319 Romans 8:29, 30
@@sethrankin5319 Romans 9:15, 16
Nobody can tell me what sin is made of and HOW a person gets sin transferred to them from another person.
By flesh
@@aletheia8054 What part of the flesh is sinful?
Do you know what sin is according to the bible? It is not a substance.
@@timothyseals3791 Everything material is a substance
How can sin get transferred? By flesh.
That’s the answer
@@aletheia8054 Correct, and what material is sin made of? If you say flesh, then what part of the flesh is sinful?
Do you know what sin is according to the bible?
@@timothyseals3791
What part? It all works together
It’s s alive
But "essence", "nature", is "what a thing is". A corruption in essence or nature means that the thing is no more that which was before. Then, if original sin is the radical corruption of our nature, after original sin man is no more man, which is not biblical, of course. No doubt original sin is very serious, and only the grace of God can cure us from it, but original sin doesn't prevent us from being human. And to be "human" is good, because it is the work of God.
Sin effected the PLACE we dwell upon , not mans nature ! We are tasked with KNOWING and choosing Good or evil and we will be judged for choosing and loving whichever side we decide to dwell with ! John 3:18 cannot be removed from John 3:16 and 17 !
It's doctrines like this that cater to the self hated I think it's vile and it comes from the pit
Nick Wheeler than you obviously reject the Bible. Read Acts and Romans.
@@sharatietz5489 Calvinism is not biblical. Calvinists reject the bible.
Saying we ARE sinners, even without the offence, is to condone the global agenda behind the thought police.
I know I'm not without fault, but I'm am not a sinner as the Bible defines "sinner".
By grace through faith, I am a saint in Christ, walking not after the flesh, but after the Spirit; "For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death." Romans 8:2 KJV
"Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him." Romans 6:9 KJV
"For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace." Romans 6:14 KJV
"For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." Romans 6:23 KJV
To claim we are sinners no matter what, is to deny the power of the resurrection of Jesus Christ, and the gift of the Holy Spirit.
This man can teach 😁🤭
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Missing the mark
What’s the mark then?
Don't listen to the guy SAVED. He is not a true Christian.
@@timothyseals3791 I wanted to hear his rebuttal, it’s clear we are absolutely dead. Thank you for reaching for truth and looking out.
@@saved6655 You see. Saved does not follow the bible.
@@saved6655 Zach, ignore what SAVED tells you. Read the Bible. SAVED makes up things that are not in the bible.
Heretical prayer: O Mother of Perpetual Help, thou art the dispenser of all the gifts which God grants to us miserable sinners; and for this end He has made thee so powerful, so rich, and so bountiful, in order that thou mayest help us in our misery. Thou art the advocate of the most wretched and abandoned sinners who have recourse to thee: come to my aid, for I recommend myself to thee.
In thy hands I place my eternal salvation, and to thee I entrust my soul. Count me among thy most devoted servants; take me under thy protection, and it is enough for me. For, if thou protect me, I fear nothing; not from my sins, because thou wilt obtain for me the pardon of them; nor from the devils, because thou art more powerful than all hell together; nor even from Jesus, my judge, because by one prayer from thee He will be appeased.
But one thing I fear: that in the hour of temptation I may through negligence fail to have recourse to thee and thus perish miserably. Obtain for me, therefore, the pardon of my sins, love for Jesus, final perseverance, and the grace ever to have recourse to thee, O Mother of Perpetual Help.
This is a legit Roman Catholic prayer, look up "O Mother of Perpetual Help" if you want to know if it’s legit.
This is super heretical. This doctrine of invoking departed saints doesn’t seem just like "hey it’s like praying to a friend.".
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And you will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. -Jeremiah 29:13
“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. -John 3:16
Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out.
-Acts 3:19
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Idol worshipers do not make Bible exegetes except for Satan.
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I'd like to bring up an interesting counterpoint to this idea of sin nature or being by nature sinners: I agree with his universal breakdown of original sin, BUT when he says that humanity is by nature (or essentially) sinful, then he has the task of showing that Adam and Eve were essentially not human before the fall.
My point is that human nature is essentially good because God created it. That since we cannot change our nature -- i.e we do not posses transhuman ability (I cant turn myself into a monkey, although I might act like one lol)-- our nature is essentially good, because God didnt change the nature as a result of Adam's sin. This, however, does *not* mean that every human being after the fall is born without original sin and subjection to concupiscence (exception: Genesis 3:15).
Human nature being good does not mean that it automatically or solely can merit heaven; in other words, the Redeemer is NECESSARY.
I think he mentions in a different lecture that after Adam and Eve sinned, human nature was changed. Sin only entered the world and human nature after they sinned. Similarly, God's people were redeemed by Jesus.
This is what I am having 2nd thoughts on...the church fathers all the way up to Augustine taught free will alone...not "a depraved sin nature". And Calvin and Luther were students of Augustine...so calvanism is actually augustinianism...the problem with this...Augustine's theology came from gnosticism! The gnostics also taught a depraved sin nature...just packaged a little differently...I'm so confused!!!
@@trevortonner106 hmmm no, the Fathers did not teach free will alone, that would be pelagianism, strictly speaking. Augustine did develop his view over time, obviously radically in his conversion. The view of Agustine, properly read, is that all mankind was present in Adam at the fall through human nature. As a result, all infants are born with original guilt (which is what is meant by original sin), although not personal guilt (or sin). All the Fathers, unanimously taught that original sin must be remitted by baptism if they are to enter Heaven.
Adam and Eve fell in the garden to sin and God said in the day that you eat there of you will surely die so mankind and Adam & Eve died spiritually so that all that were in Adam throughout time are born spiritually dead that’s why we must be made alive in Christ who is the perfect second Adam-
Space cadet human nature and everything else is evil without God. Which is where we are. Self righteous charlatan you make no sense at all come on. What a ridiculous false runaround. Even about Noah and his family were said I will no more wipe out mankind... Even tho EVERY INCLINATION OF Mans HEART IS ONLY EVIL CONTINUALLY. We all like sheep have gone astray
Anyone who thinks they or humans are good declare YHVH Elohim Adonai God NOT Good.
So, the death and resurrection of Christ didn't do anything to change that? You call yourself a scholar believing the corrupt Calvin. Men got what they lost through Christ, Eph 2:4 "But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy, 5 made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions-it is by grace you have been saved" Eph 2:8 8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God-. Who's faith? My faith indicating change in every person.
Yep it seems like the Calvinists just miss out the cross and it's purpose..yipes
You are not intelligent. Just another self righteous “self saving” son of satan
So, what good does infant baptism do? Mmmmmmm?
Baptism for an adult or an infant does nothing in regard to the salvation of the baptized. It is a symbol, not a means of regeneration or sanctification
RC Sproul what will we do with out you? Maybe we'll read our Bible. What a great idea.
I’m still laughing. God Bless
Without him we can focus on the truth. He taught many incorrect things.
@@timothyseals3791 Agree
Follow Jesus Doctrine, not manmade doctrine.
This is Jesus doctrine, if it’s not please biblically tell me don’t just yap
@@saved6655 The doctrine of original sin is a false man made doctrine and not biblical.
@@timothyseals3791 got any biblical support for that
@@saved6655 Yes
@@timothyseals3791 k go for it
I'll be confirmed into the Catholic Church this year, but I'll always have a deep respect for people like R.C Sproul. What a man of God...
There are so many reasons why the doctrine of original sin is false. Don't believe it. It is not biblical.
@@timothyseals3791 sin definitely has an origin.
@@aletheia8054 I agree.
@@timothyseals3791 then you believe in original sin
@@aletheia8054 Not the false doctrine of original sin that is taught.
Anyone with common sense and credibility should have read that we were created in the image of an Infinitely loving and perfect God. Calvin however, maintained that we were *totally* depraved to our very core. Through original sin we have the inclination to sin but surely only the devil could be described as *totally* depraved. So who's image are we created in, Calvin's god of the Devil? Through baptism we are wash clean with the water of the Holy Spirit. By accepting gods Grace and taking up our cross we undergo the process of sanctification and purification.
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Yes, created before the fall of Adam. Since then, everyone born is depraved and when saved are made into His perfect image, day by day.
You're in a Mickey mouse cult you have never read the bible
God hates those who hate Him and repays them to their face and destroys them.
Read the actual bible get out of your prosperity cult. Wake up
Reformed theology says that you don't have a choice. But what does the Bible say. What did Moses say? What did Joshua say? What did John the Baptist say? What did Jesus say? Oh just kidding. You don't really have a choice.
@@ks3979 Yes God chose me, and I chose Him. How it happens nobody knows. But Calvinist assume that since God chose you before the foundation of the earth than that settles the matter. But that is not what the Bible says. It also doesn't say why or how God chooses. God told Moses I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy. Is just another way of saying no one is going to tell God what or how to do anything; including who he chooses. Paul says in acts that he was shown mercy because he acted in unbelief and ignorance. We all have reasons for what we do God is no different. But the Calvinist says oh no God just chooses with absolutely no reason whatsoever. But that is not what the Bible says.
@@ks3979 I'm not insulting anybody. Merely pointing out scriptures that are overlooked or ignored. When someone reverses scriptures or twist scriptures to fit a particular theology or doctrine that's pretty serious; and needs to be exposed.
@@ks3979 I have fought Reform theology for a decade , Sproul fought God for decades until his death , now I bet he hates his doctored up Manichean Reform doctrines !
Early in the church in history? Idiocy!!! There was 380 years of church history before Augustine introduced his novel doctrines.
Exactly kudos
@@ks3979 total depravity usually means that you are unable to respond to Gods call in the gospel. Not that you have sinned. Meaning that you cannot resist the gospel because you cannot understand the gospel because you are totally depraved. Which in my opinion goes contrary to the scriptures.
Ezekiel 33:11- 19. = Romans 11
Hebrews 3:12-14
Acts 7:51
2 Chronicles 16:9
Acts 17:11-12
Acts 17:24-31
John 1:29
1John 2:1-6
1Peter 3:12
1 Timothy 1:13
John 3:16,17
Exodus 10:3
Jeremiah 29:13
Joshua 24:15
1 John 5:19
Hebrews 4:7
Genesis 4:7
Romans 10:21 & 12
Isaiah 45:22
Romans 5:6
Psalms 145:18
1 Timothy 4:10 of all men
Luke 9:54-56 destroy men's lives
Luke 16:29-31 Moses & Prophets
2 Thessalonians 2:10-12
And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
2 Timothy 4:7
I have fought the good fight, I have finished the race, I have kept the faith.
Titus 2:11
11For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; 13Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
Isaiah 45;22
Turn to Me, and be saved, all the ends of the earth; For I am God, and there is no other.
WHAT CAN A DEAD MAN DO?
46I am come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness. 47And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world. 48He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him. John 12:46-48
A DEAD MAN CAN BELIEVE NOT.
A DEAD MAN CAN REJECT CHRIST, AND A DEAD MAN CAN RECEIVE NOT MY WORDS.
Dead in sin = My son who was dead
Ephesians 2:5. = Luke 15:10-24 = Romans 8:10 body is dead = Romans chapter 6
John 6:39,40
39And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. 40And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
Acts 28:27 For the heart of this people is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes have they closed; lest they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.
Isaiah 55:6-9. Seek the LORD while He may be found; call on Him while He is near. Let the wicked man forsake his own way
and the unrighteous man his own thoughts; let him return to the LORD,
that He may have compassion,
and to our God, for He will freely pardon. For My thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways My ways,” declares the LORD. “For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so My ways are higher than your ways
and My thoughts than your thoughts.
Romans 11:32-36
For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all. 33 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out! 34For who hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been his counseller? 35Or who hath first given to him, and it shall be recompensed unto him again? 36For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen.
Acts 17:24-28
24The God who made the world and everything in it is the Lord of heaven and earth and does not live in temples made by human hands. 25Nor is He served by human hands, as if He needed anything, because He Himself gives all men life and breath and everything else. 26From one man He made every nation of men, to inhabit the whole earth; and He determined their appointed times and the boundaries of their lands. 27God intended that they would seek Him and perhaps reach out for Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us. 28‘For in Him we live and move and have our being.’
Romans 8:29
For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son,
1 Peter 1:1,2
To the exiles of the Dispersion throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, chosen 2according to the foreknowledge of God the Father and sanctified by the Spirit for obedience to Jesus Christ and sprinkling by His blood:
Acts 10:34
34Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons: 35But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him
Acts 16:30,31
And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved? And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house
Romans 2:11
11For there is no respect of persons
with God.
Romans 3:25,26
Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; 26To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.
Romans 5:6
For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly.
Hebrews 3:6
6But Christ as a son over his own house; whose house are we, if we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the end.
1 Corinthians 1:21
For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
John 1:7
The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.
John 1:12
But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
2 Corinthians 5:19
19To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
Romans 4:23
23Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was imputed to him; 24But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead
Galatians 3:22
22But the Scripture imprisoned everything under sin, so that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe.
Romans 10:8,9
8But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; 9That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Deuteronomy 30:13
14But the word is very near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart, so that you may obey it. 5See, I have set before you today life and prosperity, as well as death and disaster. 16For I am commanding you today to love the LORD your God, to walk in His ways, and to keep His commandments, statutes, and ordinances, so that you may live and increase, and the LORD your God may bless you in the land that you are entering to possess. 7But if your heart turns away and you do not listen, but are drawn away to bow down to other gods and worship them, 18I declare to you today that you will surely perish; you shall not prolong your days in the land that you are crossing the Jordan to possess. 9I call heaven and earth as witnesses against you today that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing. So choose life, so that you and your descendants may live, 20and that you may love the LORD your God, obey Him, and hold fast to Him. For He is your life,
John 5:39,40
You study the Scriptures diligently because you think that in them you have eternal life. These are the very Scriptures that testify about me, yet you refuse to come to me to have life.
John 1:12
But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
1 Timothy 2:3,4
3For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; 4Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
John 7:17
If anyone desires to do His will, he will know whether My teaching is from God or whether I speak on My own.
@@ks3979 scripture please.
@@ks3979 I see no evidence that Augustine was born again or ever knew Christ !
Hmm....6,666 views.
Adam B 6,666 and 666 aren’t the same number. Not sure if you’re aware of that
Also, no earliest manuscript has 666 so it's not even a legitimate concern dude
Total depravity is when people are unable to present the gospel without distorting it. Like Reformed Theologians.
The doctrine of original sin is a false man made doctrine and not biblical.
@@timothyseals3791 So what do you mean by original sin?
@@mrnoedahl By original sin I mean that no person has ever inherited sin from Adam or anyone else. No person is born sinful or with a sin nature. All people only become sinful when we commit our 1st sin.
@@timothyseals3791 It’s kind of a ridiculous thing to argue about. Tell me, at what age did you commit your first sin?
@@mrnoedahl I don't remember what age I was when I 1st sinned, I do know that it was not at my birth.
How about you, what age were you when you first sinned?
To accept reformed theology and calvinism is to reject redemption through Jesus Christ our Lord.
ROMANS 3:21
But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
23 For all HAVE sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are PAST, through the forbearance of God;
26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of HIM WHICH BELIEVETH in Jesus.
"But God be thanked, that ye WERE the servants of sin, but ye have OBEYED FROM THE HEART that form of doctrine which was delivered you." Romans 6:17 KJV
And now the book of 1 JOHN will make better sense to you. And you will understand that Paul wrote in ROMANS 7 about his PAST behavior, to identify with others, so that we all can be encouraged to strive to enter in at the straight gate, and to continue on the straight and narrow way, in Christ, by his Spirit.
You simply and obviously do not know what you're commenting about while making Jesus Christ the Lord the villain in your life. To the contrary, that fallen man is beyond self-help to bargain his way into forgiveness of sin is well summed up in Eph.2:1-3. To you, fallen man is alive in his dead to God heart but you make fallen man his own hero saving himself at will. Man is not saved by his own will, Jn.1:12,13. Woe is you who elevates fallen man while lying about the goodness of Christ Jesus to save those dead in sin.
22:30 to indoctrinate 5 minutes worth of information.
Rc was a dear brother...but calvinism is a twisting of scripture
One way or the other , Deluded man , not a Bible teacher at all , he praised Rome from which the Reformers never really left !
@@kevinpeterson346 the biblical teaching of grace doctrines is opposite of Rome. Please let’s here your biblical statements on these 5 points
@@kevinpeterson346 Correct Kevin.
The doctrine of original sin is a false man made doctrine and not biblical.
You are a liar hypocrite and unbeliever
Obviously
@@iacoponefurio1915 What is a lie?
Are you only good at name calling, being that you are a supposed Chrisitan.?
@@timothyseals3791 you are the dumbest of all the fake hypocrite self righteous liars. When the shoe fits you wear it brainless bozo clown
@@iacoponefurio1915 Not very Christian of you. You don't show the love of Christ.
@@iacoponefurio1915 Maybe it is your original sin that is making you act the way you are.
You speak great sermons and yet you were a heavey smoker which led to your demise. That seems counterintuitive to me.
Sell you the Brooklyn bridge
How do you tie your shoelaces acid queen haha
No choice means you win or lose the dice roll, so preaching is a waste of time.
No. Not all elect are saved yet and faith comes by hearing the word.
@@ks3979 Not per Calvinism.
@@donhaddix3770 that’s because you don’t understand the biblical teaching
You obviously don't follow the bible Don Haddix.
Poor infants and babies burning in hell
Ridiculous comment. There is no such place as hell. Hell came from Greek Mythology. Study before you open your mouth and breed lies pretending you know what you're talking about.
Kyletelan6945 6:23... "The wages of sin is eternal life." Your idea came from Satan who said in the Garden... "You shall *not* surely die." Gen.3:4. And so you marry Satan's word to the Gospel of Jesus Christ for his, Satan's, glory. You have given all people every where eternal life so to make the Lord God look like a mean monster and torturer of sinner's. Woe is you.
@@oldmanjoe6808you must be suffering some Grandiose delusion to convey the way you do...
John 5:28-29
28 Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice 29 and come forth-those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation.
Matthew 25:46
46 And these will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”
Revelation 20:18
14 Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second [d]death. 15 And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.
There is a dozen or more places confirming the existence of hell. You are the one who got deceived by some twisted doctrine. Are you a JW by chance?
If God did condemn infants…who are you to question him??
What a false and dangerous belief system! Preaching another gospel to the Gospel of Christ!
Why did Jesus say repent OR perish if there no choice on our part? Jesus was giving them a choice - they could repent of their sins or perish because of their sins.
How can Jesus tell someone to repent or perish if God already predestined their choice in the matter? What’s the point of preaching the Gospel to EVERY creature if Calvinism teaches that the Gospel is not for everyone and Jesus didn’t die for ALL? Why does God command ALL PEOPLE EVERYWHERE to repent if He didn’t give them a choice to repent?
Anyone who believes this false doctrine needs to repent and believe the truth Gospel !
Is it possible that God being "all sovereign" and "all knowing" gives the individual free will but already knows which individuals are going to choose Christ through that free will? Is it possible that He has chosen those whom He knows are going to choose Him before conception?
@@Truthaholic1 if you are smart enough, please let me know what you meant by "you need to attach a hidden provision to all those verses"? what is the provision you are talking about.
@@mtbikejockey9863 No < God desires that ALL MEN seek him and be saved !
Sproul talks in circles and makes ZERO sense
Because you are spiritually dead or very spiritually immature
- The 5 keys of Calvinism:
*1.* "God" is so so sovereign and loving that creates 100 depravated persons who hate him.
*2.* But before creating them, he lovingly chooses 90 to be in hell forever.
*3.* He is very merciful so he send his son to die for the 10 he has chosen.
*4* "God" lovingly forces this 10 to believe in his son.
*5.* Finally he forces this 10 to enter in heaven, although some of them returned to their old life, finishing worst than when they met "God".
Ridiculous and unstudied comment. There is no such place as hell. Hell 100% Greek Mythology. Study before you marry eternal life for all mankind to the Gospel so God can send sinners to your hell. Elsamusoy 6:23... "The wages of sin is eternal life." Satan taught you that in the Garden when he said, "You will *not* surely die." Gen.3:4. You also gave God the blame for man's sin in the Garden. No wonder you're blind to the truth by your own doing.
Oh no… this idiot again
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