Catholic, Evangelical, and Reformed: What is Reformed Theology? with R.C. Sproul
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- Опубликовано: 11 мар 2015
- How do you define sovereignty and how do you apply that to your theology? The answer to that question will determine all else about what you think of God and how He relates to His creatures. Considering this, and how it applies to biblical theology, Dr. Sproul continues this series as he looks at the views of “Catholic, Evangelical, and Reformed.”
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After over 35 years as a Christian, learning of the reformed theology opened my eyes, the wind of the Spirit blew through my soul, and my vision and view of God exploded to see Him in His grand sovereignty and great mercy and wisdom. Thank you Lord for RC and Piper!
Same here Beth
I could have written this myself
Sorry to disagree, just with the Piper part.
@@randynelson1124 I also dont like piper
Voddie baucham revelation
Steve Lawson
James Montgomery Boice
Piper is weird
Not realistic or down to earth
Spiritual hedonist? Oh
Paul washer is good
One of the main things I have learned about God is the extent of His love. Even decades after I was born again God frequently shows me unexpected kindness and generosity even in times when my thoughts and behavior are not where they should be. Perhaps the greatest knowledge that He has given me is an understanding that His plan of redemption, through the sacrifice of Jesus, fully and completely releases us from the penalty that we would have been responsible for due to our constant sin. Though the Holy Spirit leads us in to truth, we all see God through the lens of a sinful life and thus we are all prone to some degree of error. There is but one truth and we should all pray, regardless of denomination, that God would expose our error - that He would unstop our ears, soften the fallowed ground of our heart, and loosen our stiff necks so that we turn to Him as He corrects us. All of us are His vessels - one clay pot does not quarrel with another clay pot nor should we as His beloved creation. Let us ask Him daily that He would teach us what pleases Him and condition our hearts to live accordingly. May God grant all of us the ability to live for Him alone.
Amen 💖✌️
Amen!
Could you clarify all of us?
We aren’t clay pots , nor are trees . We are thinking feeling choosing creatures God made us .
ROMANS 2:4 his kindness leads us to repentance! AMAZING GRACE🎚️🧎🙏☮️
I became Christian 2 and half years ago and day by day I can understand better than before that what does it mean to follow our lord, Jesus christ. And everything that I know since the beginning until now, I learn from this amazing teacher.
Rest in peace Mr RC sproul.
Beautifully said.
Please, LORD, not lord...
Be very careful about Calvinism. It’s a cult that applies a human lens to God, and then uses this lens to distort the Bible, God, and Jesus’ atonement.
The fact that they claim Jesus atonement was only for some people rather than for all is not only intellectually disingenuous, but it cherry picks verses and ignores context to support this view.
This is the same legalism that Catholicism uses.
There's nothing valid or biblical about reformed theology, it's a manmade set of precepts.
@@christsavesreadromans1096Funny, cause reading the Bible i see everything that Reformed Theology teaches and ALL the arguments against it that i see are not biblical but philosophical or emotional.
I know plenty Christians who tense up at systematic theology, hesitant that “the head would get in the way of the heart.” But it’s hard not to tear up at the beauty Sproul describes in the coherence of Scripture, every doctrine affecting each other.
Churches are impersonal so they cannot be cleaned.
@@suaptoest I hope you don't feel the same about your toilets.
Be very careful about Calvinism. It’s a cult that applies a human lens to God, and then uses this lens to distort the Bible, God, and Jesus’ atonement.
The fact that they claim Jesus atonement was only for some people rather than for all is not only intellectually disingenuous, but it cherry picks verses and ignores context to support this view.
This is the same legalism that Catholicism uses.
@@jedimasterham2 You didn't give any substantive response to what Sproul said. You're itching for debate, slinging general contempt for Calvinism at a random comment, addressing neither what I said nor the video. If you'd like to toss "cult" around so haphazardly, Arminianism, Provisionism, and semi-Pelagianism are more of a cult in every dimension. But the word is sociologically sorely misplaced.
Your response demonstrated no understanding of the arguments about Definite Atonement. If everyone is atoned, God would be universalist. Christ only atoned for those who get atoned; that's self-evident. He doesn't retroactively rescind atonement at an unbeliever's last breath. Calvinism does no more than Arminianism to acknowledge that, and it does little more to identify the Biblical mechanism between election (which doesn't just not exist) and atonement. Arminianism pretends that election has nothing at all to do with an individual's atonement, and I gave up pretending they were separate. I believed in Definite Atonement before the other Reformed doctrines.
"Be careful," Yeah, be careful to come correct with specific arguments. Why were you here? Why chose this video and my comment to bequeath your general warning against Calvinism?
There's nothing valid or biblical about reformed theology, it's a manmade set of precepts.
These videos are the true blessing. R.C. Sproul is one of my favourite pastors-teachers. But we definitely are Christians firstly and then Calvinists. Knowledge is so important, but debating with the Arminian bretheren with love is more important. Greetings from Ukraine (Evangelical Reformed Presbyterian church of Odesa).
There's nothing valid or biblical about reformed theology, it's a manmade set of precepts.
Isn’t the baptist church restorationist when you think about it?
17 And Jesus answered him, “Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah! For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father who is in heaven. 18 And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. 19 I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.”
-Matthew 16:17-19
The Church didn’t disappear
And you will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. -Jeremiah 29:13
“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. - John 3:16
Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out.
- Acts 3:19
If you’re in North America, please go check out any of the churches available to you: PCA, OPC, Rpcna/Rpc, Urcna, or a canrc church
(These are conservative and actual Presbyterian churches)
If you can’t find one of the conservative presby churches then, maybe a Lcms Lutheran church.
If you are Scottish, I recommend the Free Church of Scotland and the APC.
(Different from the Church of Scotland)
If you’re English I recommend the Evangelical Presbyterian Church in England & Wales and the Free Church of England
(Different from the Church of England)
Also online you can look up church finders for each of the groups, it will show you locations
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@@christsavesreadromans10964:54 “When we say Reformed theology is systematic, that’s what we’re saying at the onset - That we are NOT trying to impose a system upon the Scripture but to find the system of doctrine THAT IS IN THE SCRIPTURE THEMSELVES to see how all of the parts fit together.”
I am thankful to be able to listen to RC and be blessed with his wise words that enrich my faith in God
Be very careful about Calvinism. It’s a cult that applies a human lens to God, and then uses this lens to distort the Bible, God, and Jesus’ atonement.
The fact that they claim Jesus atonement was only for some people rather than for all is not only intellectually disingenuous, but it cherry picks verses and ignores context to support this view.
This is the same legalism that Catholicism uses.
Calvijn dedicated his life and studies to create a thorough understanding of every aspect of our lives ,every fact he mentions is stated with verses from the holy Bible. Personally I am very thankful that, since age 6 I was schooled in the true catechism of Calvijn. To this day, I am just short of 80years old,
I treasure my knowledge of the Bible , as well as all the principles explained in the writings of Calvijn .
There's nothing valid or biblical about reformed theology, it's a manmade set of precepts.
@@LR-yu3mx Join the Catholic Church, which is the true faith, before it's too late. There is no salvation outside of it.
Such a good teacher.. Thankfully we have technology to store R C Sproul's presentations.
There's nothing valid or biblical about reformed theology, it's a manmade set of precepts.
R.C.was a great 👍 help to me when I studied systematic Theology,he was bless by the Almighty God in terms of knowledge and wisdom and understanding of the Bible thanks brother.
@@MichaelTheophilus906 what does that response even mean?
Good teaching on the Reformed Theology by R.C. sproul. Thanks.
It’s good that YOU came along to set us straight!
3:29, that swallow gave me chills
Hallelujah, indeed I am changed wholly in my understanding and knowledge of theology due mainly to this great men of Ligonier.
Timely word my brother. May God draw us closer to Him
False religion, my brother. He is leading you away. Not closer.
For a long time I was molonist. I only recently discovered reformed theology. I can't find any fault in it v.s. molonist or armenian. It is truly faith by grace alone and we have no part in it.
Let me try to show you a fault in Reformed theology. "We have no part in it." If we have no responsibility for our salvation, how can anyone be blamed "because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God" (John 3:18)? It's really God's fault for not electing him, isn't it?
@@ben3247 we have no part in the earnings of salvation the only part we play is being the sinner in need of a Savior.
@@sofiabravo1994 "...that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." We do not earn our salvation; we only need to believe in Jesus and we are declared righteous.
@@ben3247 One of you will say to me: “Then why does God still blame us? For who is able to resist his will?” But who are you, a human being, to talk back to God? “Shall what is formed say to the one who formed it, ‘Why did you make me like this?’” Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery for special purposes and some for common use?
@@maksimkorolev1467 I'm not saying God doesn't have different purposes for different people; of course he does. I am saying that Calvinism is wrong. That is, God has not unconditionally chosen certain individuals for salvation and others for damnation. The condition is faith. Come to Jesus, and he will give you life (John 5:40).
Brilliant and timeless.
Thanks for sharing wisdom to fellow christian
Thank you for this.
thank you Lord for RC Sproul. From Bosnia_europe, with love
Love this
Amen!!!
Faith is the channel through which one can reach the Grace of God.
By the grace of God He gives us faith to salvation .
Complete !
Ephesians 2;8-9
@@malcolmscrivener8750that is not what those verses say. The gift is salvation.
@@DMilbury Agreed .
Ephesians 2 ; 8- 10 “ For by grace are ye saved through faith ;
and that not of yourselves : it is the gift of God : not of works , lest any man should boast . For we are His workmanship , created in Christ Jesus unto good works , which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them .”
These verses teach us that it is God who saves and has foreordained the lives of His elected children .
We can only praise Him for our salvation , and give God all of the glory , which is rightfully His .
Brilliant Sproul 👍
Good Stuff !!
The study of biblical doctrine is so important for Christians because the more we learn about the truths of God ( his nature his character ) the more we can love Him because you only love someone you know. God wants our mind to be concentrating on Him in order to be more holy in our living - can’t do that without the true knowledge of God - not a made up heap of false views of God as per the charismatic movements
I’m glad that Jesus loves me, because I know not much else that’s certain
I think RC and John Piper are the two most unique teachers that I've ever listened to.
They both are serious in depth regardless how they explained our living book it's good food make your mind see other ways to see the glory of our Heavenly Father.
There's nothing valid or biblical about reformed theology, it's a manmade set of precepts.
@@christsavesreadromans1096Bottom line looking to God for all things, but in the middle is thousands of human errors for not looking into the Glory of the Father in everything we do.
The main name that is used in our living book = Fools for not listening to truth.
@@nramorrisg8415 The Bible teaches that Jesus is the savior of all people, reformed people believe in limited atonement, that’s contradictory to the Bible. 1 Timothy 4:10.
I've seen two things consistently since I began to study Calvinism:
1. It is the most Biblically accurate system of doctrine
2. A lot of Christians hate it and claim it's heresy because they're uncomfortable with predestination.
Its their flesh.
I'm evangelical, catholic and reformed.
But are you born again. That is scriptural and the only thing necessary.
@christsavesreadromans1096 I'm not you're usual reformed but what is man made about it?
@@reformedcatholic457 TULIP is entirely manmade, unbiblical, and wasn’t believed until the Protestant reformation. You can go read what the early church fathers wrote, and they certainly were not writing about saved by faith alone or any such manmade inventions, rather they were talking about the Eucharist, and other Catholic beliefs.
@@reformedcatholic457 Take, for example, Ignatius of Antioch, who knew John the Apostle and was taught by him. This is what Ignatius wrote in his epistles to the churches.
“See that you all follow the bishop, even as Jesus Christ does the Father, and the presbytery as you would the apostles; and reverence the deacons, as being the institution of God. Let no man do anything connected with the Church without the bishop. Let that be deemed a proper Eucharist, which is [administered] either by the bishop, or by one to whom he has entrusted it. Wherever the bishop shall appear, there let the multitude [of the people] also be; even as, wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church.”
So just in that quote alone you have the Catholic Church hierarchy, mention of the Catholic Church, mention of the Eucharist, and an exhortation to submit to the church leaders. All which starkly contrast what the reformed believe.
He also insinuated that those who reject the Eucharist are heretics/heterodox, and viewed the Eucharist to be the real flesh of Jesus Christ.
“I have no taste for corruptible food nor for the pleasures of this life. I desire the bread of God, which is the flesh of Jesus Christ, who was of the seed of David; and for drink I desire his blood, which is love incorruptible” (Letter to the Romans 7:3 [A.D. 110]).
“Take note of those who hold heterodox opinions on the grace of Jesus Christ which has come to us, and see how contrary their opinions are to the mind of God. . . . They abstain from the Eucharist and from prayer because they do not confess that the Eucharist is the flesh of our Savior Jesus Christ, flesh which suffered for our sins and which that Father, in his goodness, raised up again. They who deny the gift of God are perishing in their disputes” (Letter to the Smyrnaeans 6:2-7:1 [A.D. 110]).
A belief in real presence of the Eucharist is contrary to what the reformed believe, that is why it is a manmade religion; they invent their own false doctrines, then interpret the Bible in accordance with those false doctrines. Instead, they should look to what the apostles and successors of the apostles taught.
@@christsavesreadromans1096 I don't hold to TULIP exactly, not anymore. I hold to TU, man is bound to sin and God elects who will be saved, also Christ died for all in someway.
I actually enjoy reading the fathers especially St. Irenaeus of Lyon, St. Jerome. St. Athanasius, St. Augustine, St. Chrysostom, St. Cyril of Alexandria etc... It has changed my perception about theology especially about the Sacrament so I'm somewhat of an Anglo-Lutheran, but the Reformers that I read influenced the Anglican tradition such as the man in my picture Peter Martyr Vermigli.
Yes, many of the fathers refer to justified by faith alone in their commentaries on Romans chapters 3-5 and James 2, but I'm not too hung up on the term.
After reading the reformers as well my theology of the common view of Calvinism changed a lot of is modern instead of what the reformers taught. So it's from what the fathers wrote through the eyes of the reformers, so I'm catholic that I hold to the 4 ecumenical creeds and desire to continue the catholic tradition according to Scripture alone.
this seems like a good way to understand the tower of Babel....thankyou
True
Interesting, would love to have you expound
Mankind is being led toward the new Babylon.
That process is called development.
The building of the Tower of Babel was interrupted by God.
The same will soon happen and you won't have to wait long.
Luther coined the term Evangelical and wanted to name his movement, once a split with Rome was unavoidable, the Evangelical Church. It ended up being the Evangelical Lutheran Church in order to clarify its confessions vs all others as only they were formed entirely by credentialed and professional theologians. In central, eastern and northern Europe, many churches named Evangelical are in fact Lutheran churches. And even today, Lutheran understandings of the Gospel are much more precise than other bodies.
Grace is always the same grace from God and the Lord Jesus Christ.
RC as usual makes perfect sense viz Reformed theology is necessarily evangelical - now how to reconcile this with Dr. Godfrey’s “Worship: Evangelical or Reformed?”
Adolf Schlatter differered from the normal tradition of beginning his Systematic Theology with Anthropology rather than Theology albeit with an Anthropic bias. God had made us to know things in a particular way.
Well said Mr. Sproul.
Min. 18. According to my studies. In USA, Protestant is understood as Lutheran. But what He seems to have said is that the Protestant is Evangelical, but there maybe some evangelicals at the Lutheran churches.❤ So the two words to describe a Protestant in America is Christian or Luthern. Roman Catholics they go by the word, "Christian!", and wrong 😊
he says that the reformation was an
attempt to recover the ancient apostolic faith, but I think anyone who reads the ancient church fathers and the apostolic fathers in light of scripture, will immediately recognize that those men were not calvinistic in theology.
Yea… if you are dumb as a bag of hammers and read things out of context
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02:28 🤔 La necesidad de una teología confesional.
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Very well explained, RC. Thank you so much. But lately i see bible teachers taking their reform-distinctives to prove others of their distinctives to be wrong - under the name of defending their faith. I hope the unity that is founded on 'Catholic' - 'evengelical' - 'sola scriptura' would cause us to stay humble to love and respect one another.
The Bible is the only true word of God .Don’t trust everything what’s the preacher said , check what he said in God word . The preacher is human being still make a mistake and be humble and patient with one another and always pray to asked God to help us to be patient and humble 🙏🙏🙏
I feel like I’m basically going to seminary now as I watch his videos
I can’t get enough of it now
I’m 55 …is it to late for me to go to actual seminary
The average age of seminary students is around 45. When was the last time you saw a 20 year old pastor who you knew you could trust in today's age? 55 is a perfect time to go to seminary, I don't plan to go until at least 55.
@@JerynToney thanks Jeryn ..,I didn’t know that. I appreciate the support
I feel the same, except I am considering online seminary. Loving these videos.
@@amylamb2768 do you feel like God is calling you to seminary
There's nothing valid or biblical about reformed theology, it's a manmade set of precepts.
Catholic just means universal. This is common knowledge. All the reformed creeds pretty much refer to the "Catholic" church, not the Romish church, the universal body of Christ.
But is the "catholic" church just representing an invisible church, or is there an importance for a physical and doctrinally unified church? (PS, I think it's both, a spiritual and physical church, but they are in union together)
And why reform the creeds?
@@theStashSmash Very good response. Should we not rather embrace the old creeds over the new? That is: the early ecclesial creeds over the late man-made ones? What was the reality of the one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church found in the old creeds? Someone wants to redefine the meaning of words, possibly?
It is hard to believe.
You can redefine the meaning of words like "Catholic" and "Christian" and "Gospel", but that does not change their realities, my friends. Going by those words but by your own definitions of those words does not make you Catholic or Christian or to go by the Gospel.
It rather makes you ex-Catholic and anti-Christian and going by your own man-made gospel. Redefining the meaning of words leaves you alien. That is: alien to God. Redefining the definition of words and claiming that you are those words yourself now: what the...??!!
Roman catholics are distinct, separate, and not the true church. Your point is fine, however no protestant will be tied to "Catholicism" and simply "the body" or the "church" is a much better term in this modern day age. 99% of all people will relate us to rome if we call ourselves catholic. You know this though.
@@joshhigdon4951 Well, my friend, Protestants are not tied to the body or the Church either. They exactly separated themselves from the body, remember? They separated from the Church and built their own church. That is the whole idea of Protestantism.
Regarding Roman Catholics, as you call them: they are separated from what? From the Catholic Church? Well, my friend, those who are part of the Catholic Church are part of the Catholic Church, no matter what rite they exercise in worship.
I think you might want to work on your knowledge a little, my friend. Again, redefining the meaning of words does not change reality...
Agreed
The believer is "declared" righteous because of the gift of faith to believe in the sole righteousness of Christ. All other religions using Christian words believe that one is "infused with the righteousness of Christ and needs to maintain it by being complicit with a church system.
No, what you're asserting is false teaching. Christians were commanded in the Bible to repent of their sins, with the consequence of not doing so being losing your inheritance in the kingdom of God. Galatians 5:19-21.
Heretical prayer: O Mother of Perpetual Help, thou art the dispenser of all the gifts which God grants to us miserable sinners; and for this end He has made thee so powerful, so rich, and so bountiful, in order that thou mayest help us in our misery. Thou art the advocate of the most wretched and abandoned sinners who have recourse to thee: come to my aid, for I recommend myself to thee.
In thy hands I place my eternal salvation, and to thee I entrust my soul. Count me among thy most devoted servants; take me under thy protection, and it is enough for me. For, if thou protect me, I fear nothing; not from my sins, because thou wilt obtain for me the pardon of them; nor from the devils, because thou art more powerful than all hell together; nor even from Jesus, my judge, because by one prayer from thee He will be appeased.
But one thing I fear: that in the hour of temptation I may through negligence fail to have recourse to thee and thus perish miserably. Obtain for me, therefore, the pardon of my sins, love for Jesus, final perseverance, and the grace ever to have recourse to thee, O Mother of Perpetual Help.
This is a legit Roman Catholic prayer, look up "O Mother of Perpetual Help" if you want to know if it’s legit.
This is super heretical. This doctrine of invoking departed saints doesn’t seem just like "hey it’s like praying to a friend.".
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:)
Jesus plus anything is not the Gospel
We should be baptized however because it's a command of God.
Repent believe and be baptized means if you repent and believe you will be saved and baptized with the Holy Spirit.
Then as a public profession you have water baptism.
Is he referring to Catholic as Roman Catholic or just 'Catholic' in general definition?
The latter, I think
I see no where in the Bible that God ORDAINs all things
We have free will
He may know the end
But he doesn’t micro manage
Except as he needs to
Jeff foxworthy I don’t know bill was in accident
I have no idea what he's talking about.
I have a genuine question that I have been thinking about for a while, it relates to predetermination and predestination. Do you believe and teach that God told Adam (& Eve) to not eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil but then forces them to do so?
God created the universe in six days, but, originally, the universe had no sin-everything He made was “very good” (Genesis 1:31). Sin entered the cosmos due to an act of rebellion against God, not because God created sin.
@@DogSoldier1948 agreed, but did God force Adam and Eve to disobey Him or did they choose to do so of their free will?
@@ronoc89 In the words of Showbread, "Do you have a hand in it? Is yours the only hand in it"?
And also, "Sovereign all-controlling God who pushed over man: you set the table for our failure, you put the fruit in our hands."
“When tempted, no one should say, “God is tempting me.” For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone; but each person is tempted when they are dragged away by their own evil desire and enticed.”
James 1:13-14 NIV
This came to mind. I’ve always wondered this too. Like, what if they DIDN’T eat the Apple? No idea. However I don’t think God forced them to eat the fruit. Remember it was Satan who tempted them to eat it, though.
@@ronoc89 God does not commit sin. They sinned of their own volition.
Acts 17:30
30And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent.
I don’t know why I keep asking these mere mortals to do something they are totally incapable of doing. I wonder if they can even hear me.
Good luck mortals.
Jesus knows who are His! Born of the water (physical birth) and the Spirit. If anyone does not have the Holy Spirit he is not God's!
You think that “water” in that passage has to do with physical birth? Not baptism?
That's not what that means... and it doesn't mean baptism either. Nicodemus knew nothing of the Christian baptism (not to mention Jesus hadn't been yet glorified so it wasn't required) and they (Jews in that day) didn't call it "water breaking" or anything of that nature or even refer to it as water at all. Jesus was referencing Ezk 36 and Ps 51... he was giving Nic regenerate language.
@@TheRealJimW born of water does mean baptism. later in scripture someone says that those who believe and are baptised will be saved. there are exceptions like maybe not having access to water or ignorance (not willful though). Jesus himself was baptised! why?
@@michaeladamonis2620 It wasn't the same baptism. Later on, those who had received the Baptism of John were also required to receive the Baptism of Jesus Christ.
@@dimains6011 where does it say that?
Why would the teachings of Christ ever need to be reformed?
It is not the teachings that need to be reformed but the way it is taught.
Brett - you do not know your church history. "catholic" (THE CHURCH) vs "Catholic" (Roman) - you are bearing false witness against a fellow brother with your words. He - in no way - introduces Roman Catholicism into this discussion; if your think he did, you did not listen very closely.
This being said, I am not a huge Sproul fan nor am I really a fully Reformed theologian. But fair is fair, and you are not being fair to RC.
Well said! I receive that.
All except the part of not knowing church history. Did you know that most of the reformers were Roman Catholic? Martin Luther and John Calvin were strongly rooted in Catholicism. They both practiced infant baptism. If you listen to R. C. Sproul long enough, you will begin to understand why I said
James Huber I agree with you. Church history is one of the areas where we evangelicals lack. Brett, RC didn't even mention the Roman Catholic church. Please, review your church History. This might help, "Church History 1 SEBTS" look it up and read the reccomended books.
R. Joël Guzman-Quispe fyi the correct name is Catholic Church. We don't call it Roman Catholic Church. The name Catholic Church was RECORDED in 107 AD so it already was being called that.
@@Pastor-Brettbyfaith Luther and Calvin were part of the Roman Church because there was nothing else. Hence, the Reformation. You know? Reforming the Ch--Never mind. They sure weren't papists after the Reformation is the material point. What you said is like saying, "Did you know Luther and Calvin breathed air?"
And infant baptism...My goodness. What does the Roman Church's practice of infant baptism have to do with a Reformed understanding of paedobaptism? Agree with them or not, they're two totally different things.
Good grief. You don't know the first thing about the Reformation. You need to study theology before making such statements.
A lot of these teachers use big words and jumble them together to where some people don’t get it what good is that to people
He wasn’t recording for RUclips. This was made in the 90’s and he is a teacher in a college environment.
There is a vast difference between milk and meat. Babies digest milk and the mature digest solid food. Along the way, believers should progress to mature topics and increase their biblical understanding. God uses teachers to help Christians grow spiritually and the scriptures attest to this fact.God bless you along your own journey.
WHY are Biblical Truths of the Gospel made so COMPLICATED through finite human thinking such as wqith Sproul rather than just let the bible say what IT says and means?
Is not one of the fundamental blocs on which Protestantism is based is a complaint about Catholicism that Christians need no intercessors and YET time after time these same Protestant insist that one view the Scriptures through the prisms of MANY preachers, "doctors" and ":theologians" rather than just let the Scriptures speak for themselves and let SPIRITUAL truths be REVEALED by the Spirit rather than through the prism of limited human wisdom?
The start of the church is Eastern. Why do we start with Roman Catholics?
He's not talking about Roman Catholics at all. He's talking about "catholic" in the universal sense.
This teachings are not for everyone i see many misunderstanding mr sproul
R Catholic Church did not need to be remade it needed to be removed....
Sincerely
The Waldenes
I do like RC😊
yep!
The Socratic Method of Teaching is not too bad either
Just sayin
Within theology, why would a god that first said the Jews were his chosen few, send a son to earth who ended up preaching that without Christian doctrines, the Jews could not be saved? You will see the lies, but only when you are ready.
What is adultery? Ask RC jr, he can tell you all about cheating on your wife and being on the Ashley Madison list. Disgusting.
You are right about that the apple fell far from the tree
Terrible
If remembering the similarities is so important, then what's the purpose of seperating ourselves from heretics on the grounds of their distinctively heretical qualities?
How then can we even claim that one is going his own errant way if there is not a way which the majority seek saying "This way leads unto life, and Christ is here"?
This is nonsensical to me. The distinctives *are* important and more important than similarities. If it goes far enough, we cannot have fellowship.
Because he does not see all other Christian denominations as heretics. So there are some groups like LDS that are heretics because they do not share the similarities he is mentioning.
@@dahelmang
Well "all" is over generalizing anyways.
@@TheKing-qz9wd what characteristics do you see as heretical then?
@@dahelmang
Denying the divinity of the Son.
Calling the Holy Ghost female.
Denying the emotions of the Father.
Confusing the congregation with a blanket put over a works salvation.
Indulgences and other monetarily purchased righteousness.
Extra biblical sources, like apocryphal books, new false prophets and quotes of deceased elders, that promote unbiblical activities.
The Prosperity Gospel.
The New Apostolic Reformation.
Conflating political views like facism, capitalism and communism with the will of God.
The worship of angels.
Denying the person that is the devil and confusing him as a kind of force.
Placing divinity in sinful humanity.
ETC
I believe this should be clear to you, brother.
@@TheKing-qz9wd yes I would agree with all of those. That still leaves a lot of room for agreement with many denominations. I think that is what RC is focusing on. Though it's not clear to me how he can distinguish "Reformed" theology from Lutheran theology, since Luther was a Reformer.
Question….Do Calvinist really have a Gospel to preach? If so what is it?.
My reason for asking is if we are predestined to be saved and God only chose a few to be saved, what is the good news for the world?
God commands us to preach therefore we preach
@@monso7871 dumbest response I’ve heard. So when sinners stand at Gods throne, all they need to say is. “God you are guilty of the sin in my life and the way I lived, because you are unjust and didn’t predestined me.
So what is your response to that?
I know my response. Calvinist read the Bible to back their beliefs, I read the Bible to live within its word. God said He wants no man to perish, He said He died for the sins of the world. God said whosoever believes and is baptized will be saved. That’s a far cry from Calvinist indoctrination.
@@righteousrebelmedia5934 Read Romans 9. God clearly states here that he makes vessels for destruction and that he chooses the saved. God in other passages also says that humans are responsible for their sin and their salvation. I don't understand how these things can be, but I have faith in God's righteousness.
@@monso7871 yes. Humans are responsible not God. You just destroyed Calvinism
@@monso7871 God is NOT righteous if He causes people to be sinners and then condemns them for a choice He forced on them. Use common sense.
Did you know that the word theology is not ever mentioned once in the Bible! All you need to do is STUDY THE KJV BIBLE and do what it commands. It's pretty simple. Do what Jesus said on how we should live our lives. For starters Repent of all your sins and live holy. The instructions are in the New Testament!
The devil is in the details, so to speak. And all our confusion comes from that first sin that originated with Adam and Eve.
Ok, so… if reformed church is “universal”, why is that that you guys have hundreds of denominations and disagreements? What make the Catholic Church (Rome and orthodox) unique is that all of its followers follow one doctrine. In reformation, you have this problem of funding churches when one follower disagrees with the pastor. Is irrational to me that after so many years in Protestantism is the alarming amount of disagreements about what Bible Teaches and certain doctrines that are not biblical at all such as predestination.
Follow one doctrine? What? There's so many peeps that have disagreements in your church madude.
I believe in the Sovereignty of God...that is ...His right to rule as He sees fit....no prob ,...what I take exception to is...Reformed Theology & their Theologians....telling us...HOW God uses that Sovereignty...in terms of...Soteriology/Salvation...you could never convince me that God Sovereignly sends people to..hell...that emanates from their T.U.L.I.P..."Ology...or that...that somehow Glorifies God..according to Mr.John Calvin himself..or that man is soooooo...depraved that he/she has no capacity to respond to God,s offer of Salvation...when God says..." come & let us reason together..though ya sins be as....they shall be as...."... who do ya suppose God is pleading with..in this text of Isa1: 18...????...go back to Isa1:10... & it tells ya..God is speaking to those from...Sodom & Gomorrah..!!.. not exactly what you,d call " Regenerated folks....folks..God,s pleadind w/ & asking the unsaved & the unregenerated...to have their sins become white as snow....the same in Ezek.18:23,31..33:3..Isa.55:7,8... that's O.T....in the N.T. we see the same thing.goin on.
Jn.5:39,40(v40)... " you will not come to me that you might have ...life".. who is our Lord speaking to...???. Those unsaved & unregenerated religious rulers of Jerusalem...that's who.... same in Mt 23:37-39.... " but you would...not...who?? Those unsaved & unregenerated..Israelites...that's who...do ya see a picture emerging here..???. in spite of our depravity..& fallen nature..we as unsaved & unregenerated sinners still have a capacity to respond to Gods offer of Salvation..!! WHY...???.. b/c of Jn.1:9... " He is the true LIGHT that lightens... EVERY man that comes into the world...( v.v.10-12) is the amazing results..." But to as many as receive Him to them gave He the Power/ Authority to become the children of God....even to them that believe ON His name...so what's the requirement here...to become a child.of God??? Sitting around waiting to see if ya regenerated or not..waiting to see if ya been elected..or not...???... again.." you will NOT come to me...& live..." didn't say they cant...said they...WONT...ya see it's when ya come to Christ that ya regenerated....thus..saved & a child.of God...so ya see " regeneration does not precede faith.." ...nothing precedes faith...including Salvation..
You quoted John vv10-12 but it ends with a colon into verse 13 which states 'who were BORN, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. The verses relate to People who were BORN of God. But strangely you stopped at verse 12 and left out verse 13
love the rainbow tie.
Lobe Reformed Theology
Praying for every one watching this. Read the the orginal documents. May St Augustine pray for you all, may Saint Thomas Aquinas pray for you all.
May you come out of pagan Rome and find the true gospel. St Augustine was reformed. And St Augustine and any other departed believer cannot pray for you. We have one mediator between God and man, the man Christ Jesus.
@@mariosangermano5709 ... Well-stated, Bro!
Come let us reason togehter. I enjoy these. Completely disagree but no matter .. Lol
*Reformed theology is the actualization of Calvino's heresies.* That theology that creates
a sovereign god that rejoices creating the most of humanity to be in hell for eternity without any opportunity to be saved. Because He is merciful and loving. That one that says you can't loose your salvation even when Jesus and Paul warned us for it. The theology that undermines the cross telling you that what happened there was a limited atonement, etc, etc. The reformed theology is in one word: trash.
I’m so glad I don’t have to believe in reformed theology to be saved.
“God resist the proud, but gives grace to the humble.”
That’s the doctrine of grace.
Amen!
Reformed theology gives God all the glory and is the most flesh WITHERING doctrines.
I have a Masters Degree and you lost me. Most people do not think in “SCHOLARLY FORM”. The average educational level in society is that of the 6th grade. Save this for Ph.D students.
This is RC's calling and form and level to teach. I don't have a Masters Degree and I am following... Are you able to teach at the average persons level? I would sincerely love to hear what you have to say on this subject. BTW, it is not any educational level by which Christians are taught. According to Holy Scripture, it is by the power of Holy Spirit that we are taught (1 John:6, Jesus is the truth). John 2:27-The Holy Spirit is truth and will teach us all truth. John 17:17-Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. Master that...
Secular degrees of accreditation are purchased. The Holy Spirit is delighted to teach for free.
Read Mathew 25:31-46 and forget "faith alone." Only the Catholic (and Orthodox) Church follows the Bible.
Your brother in Christ, Fr. Dave
How much does an indulgence go for now days
You can judge a tree by its fruit.
@@johnpeavey6066 Beloved brother in Christ, the Catholic Church prohibited the sale of indulgences in circa 1534 AD. The Bible says in five different places to partake of the body and blood of Christ in the Lord's Supper (Mathew 26:26, Mark 14:22, Luke 22:18, John 6:51-55). Nothing in the Bible says it is a mere symbol.
Your brother in Christ,
Fr. David
@@FrDavid-wy2qt Just food for thought were indulgences based on scripture or tradition?
@@johnpeavey6066 Yes, in the book of Maccabees in the Old Testament the people found idols around the necks of dead soldiers so they prayed that God would forgive the sins of the dead and a tithe was payed to the priest for their atonement. 2 Maccabees 12:43-44 says: "He also took up a collection, man by man, to the amount of two thousand drachmas of silver, and sent it to Jerusalem to provide for a sin offering. In doing this he acted very well and honorably, taking account of the resurrection. 44 For if he were not expecting that those who had fallen would rise again, it would have been superfluous and foolish to pray for the dead."
Martin Luther removed this book because it alludes to purgatory but it was in early Protestant Bibles including the early King James Bibles.
Of course, the potential for abuse with indulgences was to great for 16th century Europe and it led to abuses. The televangelists seem to have taken over the indulgence business but under a different name.
Your brother in Christ,
Fr. Dave
Reformed theology is not in the Bible nor from the Holy Spirit! Our Jesus declared, WHOSOEVER!
Non catholic, protestant, renegade and deformed!!! In order!!!!
Good grief this man’s knowledge
Thehuy's a serial liar
Romans is clear that Christians have two laws to fulfill, love and Charity … these replace the 613 of the Mosaic law. Roman Catholicism teaches this. sola scriptura is entirely baseless modern invention … Christ left his Church, not the anew Testament … which was generated and protected and interpreted by a Christ’s Church, The RCC. These are facts.
No space cadet you have no facts just crazy brainwashed anti biblical stupefaction
Typical kind of insane suppositions of catholics they never read the bible ever just demand everyone be as clueless and erroneous as their crazy lies.
You cant even tell the difference between Roman's and corinthians a Protestant pre schooler can tell tell you that.
Let’s all put down our Bible and just read “The Institutes of The Calvin Religion.” And you too can become enlightened.
Good try, catholic has nothing to do with God unless you attach it. Fo example Universal studios. Evangelio nowadays no longer has anything to do with Luther.
Well all Protestant denominations are Reformed, so maybe you should come up with another name.
Luther was a Reformer! How can you say Reformed theology is distinct from Lutheran theology? Come on!
I agree that most 'Protestant' denominations 'reformed' away from the Romish cult, but through the process of time the majority have strayed away from Reformed theology (and many have partially returned to Rome). The Reformed faith is by far the minority among Protestants and evangelicals, but it is biblical and true.
@@duranbailiff5337 most people just call it Calvinism. We should look to the Bible first, then to theologians.
"The assumption of systematic theology is this: that the Bible is coherent." And therein lies the issue. The fact of reality is that the Bible is NOT coherent. It is astonishing how much time and manpower is wasted on building such absurd philosophies as this.
So you think God is contradictory and a liar??
@@Scribeintheink I have heard very few definitions of “god” that seemed to me logically coherent.
I can tell you being reformed isn’t the answer
He says it is a doctrine of God which they do not have proper understanding of because they do not understand the point of creation and why free will of man is central to his plan of creation.
Not for self righteous cult members like you no
Actual.real Christianity yes
@@shadowmist1246 hahaha man has no freewill only choice and man has never been central to creation
That is the craziest dumbest most anti biblical Godhating perspective possible.
You chose some fake puppet weak servant boy not the Living God of the universe. You have never been a Christian and do not know what it is. Not remotely wow
My good friend, you are exactly not Catholic. You are exactly separated from the Church.
To start you own church where you teach your own gospel...
My good friend: please read what the early Church writes regarding separatism.
Nobody will be saved by his own opinions and ideas, my friend.
One Lord and one Gospel; one body and one faith...!
And what is the gospel?
@@elko1860 That is an excellent question, my friend. To start with: the Gospel is the message brought to us by Jesus regarding our salvation. So far no surprises. But what is that message? Well, if you are Protestant, the answer to that question depends on the person you ask. Do you understand this? Protestants develop their own gospel based on their personal understanding of Scripture - a fully objective statement, as far as I know. You can for example ask Dr. Sproul and Dr. Wesley: two different gospels.
If you ask any - faithful and well-informed - Catholic, however, you only receive one answer. Catholics accept the Gospel that is laid before them - for over 2000 years now. The difference is thus very clear: to accept the Gospel vs. to define your own. Again: fully objective. Ask yourself: what does Scripture and the early Church teach about this? The answer is: one true Gospel and many false ones; the latter being brought to us by equally so many men who separated from the Church and developed their own indeed...
Now you want to know what the Gospel is: you inquire after the very message! Take up the old, strip the carnal and throw in the Spirit, my friend...!
(!!)
There is only one True Gospel....Jesus lived the perfect life that sinners could not live, Jesus died taking the penalty for sinners they could never pay, then He rose from the dead overcoming death giving those who believe the right to be children of God
Why were people like John Huss who wanted to read the Bible for them self burnt at the stake by some wicked Catholic priests? And tell me this: why does the Roman Catholic "jesus" look like a white man who reflects the appearance of a Roman emperor? (hint: practicing pagan Constantine, founder of the Roman Catholicism)
"Nobody will be saved by his own opinions and ideas" - agreed. Why then do Roman Catholics follow tradition over Scripture? Is tradition not man's own opinions and ideas?
My question is. Why do you put so much. Or any value into orthodoxy?? It’s just men’s thinking
Catholic Church, founded by Jesus Christ. Protestantism, invented by Martin Luther 15 centuries after Christ.
@@Jean_Claude Some revise history to suit their own agenda but the historical fact is that Jesus founded the Catholic Church, that He appointed Peter to be its leader in His absence, that according to the first few chapters of Acts Peter is clearly the guy in charge, that a man named Linus was the second pope, that a man named Cletus was the third pope, that a man named Clement was the fourth pope, on down to the present day.
@@Jean_Claude
you are not right in your study of the bible all answer are in the old testament
YASHUA didn't found no church,hi came and obeyed the law that was stated for the human race.the human race ignores the rules given by YHWH in paradise,free of being that dosen't mean free of the rules of GOD.
OBEYING THE RULES
IS OBEYING GOD SIMPLE.and that didn't happen.is not to the Israelites the Rule is for everyone that recognizes GOD than and now.if you rely whant to getting right you have to read all the bible.REMEMBER WHAT GOD SAID TO ABRAHAM every NATION WILL BENEFIT TRUE YOU.NOT B C IT WAS A ISRAELITE OR A JEWISH IS B C HI OBEYE GOD the temple is gone so no need for a Pope.or a priest.is necessary that read all the bible and you'll see that OBEYING GOD THAT ALL WHAT JESUS IS ALL ABOUT.
NOT A NEW CHURCH.hi said a Giving you a NEW comment
LOVE EACH OTHER
AND THAT DIDN'T OVER RULE THE 10 COMMENT
THAT SAID IN THE FIRST PLACE
LOVE GOD and if you LOVE GOD AND RECOGNIZE HIM AS THE KING AND RULER IN the earth,there is not need for a priest. REMEMBER
if you read everything in the bible you understand.
NINIVE was not a Israel land
and GOD forgive them,wayyyy out of respect for his HOLLY HOLLY HOLLY
OBEYING RESPECT and LOVE for GOD
@@Jean_Claude Apostle Peter was the first Pope.
This guy's sophistic and constant use of the term "catholic" should make any true protestant want to puke because, regardless of it's fundamental meaning, there's no getting around the fact that term has OTHER connotations, i.e. hence why most roman catholic's simply refer to themselves as catholic. I suppose no wonder then that in Mr. Sproul's lecture on the endtimes and antichrist he says that no body would contend that the papacy is seat of antichrist today... so much for reformed theology... regardless of his reputation, charisma, knowledge and communication skills, one must ultimately conclude mr. sproul is a wolf in sheep's clothes.
You're missing the point. The meaning of words change over time. Most people today when they hear catholic don't think "oh he must mean the church universal", no, they think "roman catholic". So why use the word at all given the modern connotations? It just creates confusion, of which scripture says God is not the author, and also therefore lessens the distinction. The universal church is apostate anyways, the church of Christ is the remnant foretold in Revelation 12. In fact prophecy indicates apostate protestantism would become a likeness to the roman papacy, so I guess keep referring to the church as a whole as "catholic", but as for me and my house, the distinctions will be kept as far as the east from the west.
@Friday’s are cool its catholic theology that is the issue.
@Friday’s are cool thank you but i dont think you do know how serious this is. This is not about hating them. But helping them free from darkness. Like loving gay people and showing there is freedom from being gay. I understand the hate the bigotry. Do you know costi hinn he is a perfect example how you be loving and not a bible basher.😉
@@thecontendingforthefaith The reason they use the word catholic is because that's the only church that existed after the time of Jesus, and to use any other word would show the clear truth, that Christians didn't believe nor accept reformed theology for 1500 years.
@@christsavesreadromans1096 You realize primitive Bible believing Christian groups existed the world over that were never connected to Rome from the first century until the Roman church sought to destroy them and their histories, no? We could talk about Ambrose Bishop of Milan, the Huss, the Waldenses, the Albigenses, the Insabatti, the Absynnians, the Petrobrucians, and on and on... the roman papacy is the AC of Bible prophecy, and if you don't come out of her as instructed in Rev18 it says God will judge you in partaker of her sins.
Calvinism comes to the Bible with a preconceived system. It defines things according to that system. Calvinism is not biblical
You're wrong. Jesus was a Calvinist. No one CAN come to me...Question of ability..not will...John 6
Jn336 Jesus said “If I be lifted up I will draw all men into me” speaking of being lifted up on the Cross. Christ draws all and gives a choice
What it seems like then, is that either there are contradictory passages in our Bible, or complementary ones. Calvinism vs Arminianism seems to be a debate on which verses are primary and which are complementary. The idea that Christ died for everyone seems to me to be less Christian than the idea that He died for anyone. It’s obvious that His death does not impart righteousness to a non-believer based on the simple fact of hell. Anyone can become a Christian and we won’t know who that will be until it is. God does. So if He knew who would eventually join and who would eventually rebel, what sense does it make to say that Jesus died for those who will eternally rebel?
Uncas Unga thanks for the classics nasty Calvinist response. Of course it’s not your fault for belong a haughty nasty person. Did God decree you to be a nasty jack ass?
@@pastordavidberman2091 wow...if man makes the final determination to choose Christ, then it can be nothing more than a work of the flesh and not of Spirit...the flesh profit's nothing...there is no way around this.
To whom ever it applies. . .
This man needs to repent and Preach the Gospel of Salvation, not be a talebearer telling us why some men are wrong...but to Preach the Gospel of Salvation, telling mankind why the Gospel is right...
I have not seen a video on youtube where this man isn't evil surmising. . .and dividing the body of Christ. . .repent and be saved...
If somebody is not preaching the gospel the way you think the bible teaches then you need to go to them and tell them your concerns. . .not broadcast your evil surmising before this unsaved world...
Saints please don't post pictures of people doing sinful Acts. I don't want to see these things... that are terrible being forced upon me.
You need to stop all the BS, and teach the true Christian Biblical doctrine of Christ! You are trying to firce your doctrine which is contrary to the Bible! There were no stupid alrar calls and other BS! The Bible clearly teaches that faith without works is dead and can not save you! Stop all the meaningless eliquent BS! Did Christ request an altar calls in the NT?!? No!!! Here is his wctual words: "if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments." if you stive to do this, you eoll not be perfect, but Hod knows your heart is righteous, snd yhrn you can be daved by grace!!! Christ csme to dave people from their sins, not to save them in their sins!!!