The Most Powerful Original Xbox - FriendTech DreamX 1480 - Teardown, Games, Emulators and More | MVG
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- Опубликовано: 19 сен 2024
- In 2004 - FriendTech released the most power Xbox console to target the media player martket in the living room. Known as the DreamX-1480 it boasts some very powerful features that make it the most powerful Original Xbox you can find. Lets take a closer look at the console , tear it down and see how well it performs !
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► Twilight. Composer : MVG - / twilight
► Music from Amiga game Pinball Dreams. Composer: Olof Gustafsson
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I decided to remake the (very bad) FriendTech video i made back in 2015 as i didnt feel like it as very good. I hope everyone enjoys this update. Have a great week!
Modern Vintage Gamer - Hi, does Friendtech still sell these & are they available as an upgrade kit? Great video and thank you for the info. I would love to upgrade my 2 original X-Boxes with this setup. Is the RAM upgrade difficult?
CyDragonGM - Baldur's Gate - Dark Alliance; A superb official D&D hack&slash action rpg on PS2, XB, & GC. It is really high production quality with tight gameplay, epic soundtrack, & quality voicework. There is no port of this specific Baldur's Gate game on PC; The PC games in the series use alot of mouse clicking. This console version gives direct control of your character, not clicking orders. The console specific sequel was very bland in every way. I recommend you check it out. Dark Alliance has a ridiculously cool unlockable when you beat the game too. Also, It is co-op 2 players.
I wouldn't call this a bad video, it's good, but i'm not sure whether it's a worthwhile improvement? You're running through the same bullet points; surely some questions would have arisen in the meanwhile?
Siana Gearz - I just want the 128 MB memory upgrade. I've read others' posts claiming that there are better performing (over stock cpu) 733 Mhz processors that don't destabilize retail X-Box games.
Modern Vintage Gamer appreciate that effort of a remake not many people give it another go and provide more information for a better expirence.
The xbox original content is very eduactional and interesting to keep on learning more in the way you produce it thanks.
I don't do a whole lot of modding or emulation, but for some reason this stuff just interests me to no end. I love this channel.
Righttttttttttt
Its a whole wonderful magical world of nostalgic gaming is waiting for you. Your mind will explode when you get a modded console and make it work the way you want it. Try emulators on any basic android phone and all of a sudden that phone will feel a million dollars. 😁
My whole life changed when I discovered Dolphin and Project 64 back in 2011.
This guy got me interested in modding with this video
ruclips.net/video/XuOm-RTQxVU/видео.html
@@tuut1241 exactly once I played super mario world on snesx9 on my phone that costed 100 it made me feel it was worth every more
imagine a modern console being this user-serviceable. that's the dream right there.
4 years later and even though the Steam Deck isn't a console, it's a huge fucking refreshment compared to today's console and/or handheld market.
Yeah, I know, it's essentially a portable PC but come on, Valve essentially allows you to do whatever you want with it. And the repairability is astounding!
This is what consoles should strive for. That, and more backwards compatibility.
I mean... the Xbox One/Series are pretty damn close to that with Dev Mode
Great to know KODI has its roots in the Xbox modding scene. I love it. It's so amazing that nowadays it can run on a Raspberry Pi 3B powered by one of the TV's USB ports
I think in the future it'll only be powered by the hdmi port
Then in 2013, Microsoft went too hard with making the Xbox a all-in-one media center....
Clay3613 Haha I had exactly the same thought 😂
They screwup with DDR 3, although GDDR 5 already standard since 2010.
The only reason I own an xbox one (s) since xbox has no exclusives and my pc is more powerfull. But the xbox one s even runs an alpha version of kodi!
CheapBastard1988 the Xbox one in general runs the Kodi alpha. I’ve got an original Xbox one and it’s works fine
Clay3613 That’s why the 8th gen consoles suck
Not used my Xbox in years and never knew about the clock capacitor problem. Thanks to your video I've now removed it and the Xbox still works great, thankfully only a tiny bit of leakage. Booted straight back into xbmc! Brings back some memories! Great channel!
What model did you have?
Watching the Xbox getting cleaned is weirdly satisfying
Kind of like the scene in toy story where woody is getting fixed
reddit.com/r/oddlysatisfying
its more satisfying to do it yourself, watching it become shiny clean a little at a time and being able to compare the before and after, gives a strange sense of accomplishment, even though its not a hard task
@@bibasik7 reddit.com/r/ihavereddit
I made that patcher! Weird to see in your video, but I'm sure there was a dreamX patch on xbins that was more suited to that particular xbox? That's where I got the idea.. I did have a patch for the GTA games for 1.4ghz aswell (they had some extra codes in there) but I never made the executable it was just a bunch of hex values
What do the patches do? do they lock to Vsync or something? Does 1.4GHz help in any native xbox games at all? I remember couple of games with bad framerates, like Halo CE going down to 10fps etc.
@@rasz they probably adjust the game internal clock to the new clock speed. nothing else.
@sick vegan Found it! Okay to fix GTA games you will need a hex editor, open the default xbe and replace all instances of '90 30 0B' with 'C0 5C 15' (for the 1.4 ghz trusty).
If anyone has the older 1ghz trusty it is '3F 42 0F' instead.
I don't remember but I think you want to patch them with the appropriate patcher aswell.
@@daveland6987 hey man why you are not update the patcher ???? I mean, I can't find it anywhere!!!!! I only find it on old weird place
downloads.diodematrix.com/homebrew/xbins/PC%20Based%20Applications/xbe-xip-xbx%20tools/XBEPatcher/
and it say that the patcher last update from 2018!!!!! so what happened man???? not only that but its have alot errors!!! evry time I open the app it say : memory allocation failed
so what happened !!!!!
@@heresmybrotherluigihelloma4698 Hello, sorry that's not my patch - that does something different. The one I made patched xbe from 733mhz to 1.4ghz. Somebody else made a newer one that has 1ghz, 1.4ghz and 1.48ghz as well as 128mb ram patches all in one patcher, so I'd recommend looking for that nowadays if that's what you are after? emuxtras.net is where I'd go looking for xbox patches personally
Denatured alcohol can also be used to neutralize the leakage from the capacitor, and is much easier and cleaner than mixing up baking soda and water.
i pretty much use IPA for cleaning anything electronic lol
I've learned more about the original xbox from you than from any other source, and I've been an xbox fan since the beginning, and have owned a modded original xbox for about 12 years. Most of this stuff I didn't even know existed, yet somehow you not only know about it, but own it, and know all the ins and outs. You are a treasure to the gaming community, sir, not just for vintage stuff but modern as well. Please keep up the great work. I look forward to your videos every week!
For anyone else accustomed to the graphics of the PS2 half-life console port, that must be the most god damned smooth I've ever seen Half-Life one on a console.
what please explain
@@cd123atd4e half-life and half-life 2 perform best on a PC. He was just admiring how smooth the ancient game runs on semi ancient hardware.
@Old Liquid Yes but the CPU was very strong
@Old Liquid Yes I know
I thought that just watching it now, it looks like its running on a decent pc of the time vs the ps2 port and its constant loading screens
I somehow completely missed this video when it went up lol. I do find the "they should have focused on the media player aspect, too focused on games" quote amusing given the Xbox One's launch
One thing I noted when you listed the machine spec is that if you could install Windows 98 on it that would be pretty much perfect for the level of hardware as standard.
you probably can since it uses a standard X86 P3 CPU although the motherboard's bios probably isn't supported with windows 95/98/SE/ME/2000/XP
they actually got windows 98 and xp running on it. not very well though.
"tempatures di not go much higher than 130 degrees" me, and European: NO WHAT THE HELL THAT IS HELL ON E- ... Oh right fahrenheit, I can wipe the sweat.
Same.
Isn't he from like Britain or something ? Which makes him European as well
Lmao same
@Mississippi Mike if you're taking about the west coast
@Mississippi Mike in natural terms your race is your nation. Your country and your nation are two different things: A country is a legally defined thing (it’s artificial) whereas your nation is a biologically defined thing (it’s natural). Yes, that’s correct: Even the word nation shares the same root word (nate) with nativity and native and natal, and all of them refer to the birth of children.
This thing is awesome, I had only heard of these upgrades but never knew about what Friendtech did. Do you remember the pricing on these?
around $USD 500 iirc. Not cheap
N64 Freak makes these if you are hunting for one.i am not sure if MVG has one of the first gen of the friend tech or not, they had a media port in the back that was basically an extension cable for a mod chip. this one had it soldered right onto the xbox.
Steven Benson As a personal owner, I can vouch for N64Freak. His systems are outstanding.
13ondy's Mixes No website. Sign up and become a forum member over at Assembler Games and send N64Freak a PM. The systems are around $350.
iVirtualPlays A CPU/RAM upgraded system certainly isn't for everyone, it's definitely for the enthusiast. I purchased one because I love the Xbox, and it's a cool, unique oddity to have in my collection.
"Too focused on the games." Wish we could say the same about games nowadays.
Awesome! Thought about upgrading my XBOX for a while, certainly with additional RAM to give compatibility with those few arcade games that can run on these. I can see the benefits of the CPU upgrade for MAME for sure!
GadgetUK164 - Retro Gaming Repairs & Mods. Can you explain what MAME is?
Trohs Wehttam An Arcade emulator. you could search more info on google
MAME = Multiple Arcade Machine Emulator. It's basically imo the best multiple system emulator to be created. It emulates all the chips used within arcade machines and since many systems used many of the same chips, it enables MAME to support the whole range of arcade machines - pretty much anything that was ever in an arcade can be emulated by MAME.
In relation to this video and the CPU / RAM upgrades - more processing power and RAM means better emulation performance on games that may lose frames or have stuttery sound at the standard 733Mhz, and the RAM opens up support for some of the larger games that a standard XBOX might not be able to emulate due to RAM limitations.
BGA I think! Pain for the average person imo - I would struggle with it for sure. To do something like that properly you need an IR bed or something to pre-heat the board, hot air to remove the chip (preferably with a proper hood - not just a cheap hot air rework station), and then you need to remove the solder from the board, get a stencil of the right type of that CPU, reball the replacement CPU and fit it with hot air. It is certainly not an easy process for the inexperienced. Personally I don't see the point in risking an XBOX to attempt the mod myself. Fitting additional RAM is easy though in comparison - I might do a video on that at some point.
Your channel has quickly become one of my favourites. I absolutely love the modding/emulation talk, especially the Xbox. Takes me back, that's for sure, though I screwed up and didn't back up the Xbox Dash like a noob so i'm permanently on UnleashX. To this day I haven't figured out how to get the old dash back, as well as the modded dashboards. Ah well, it was a learning experience way back then.
I can send you my copy, if you tell me what files you're missing I can send them to you on the weekend
@@RowanBird779 4 years later, just wanted to say thank you for your willingness to help. I actually managed to restore it a couple of weeks ago after finding my EEPROM and being able to re-lock the HDD. Thank you any how!
@@mrratchet Wait that was 4 years ago?
@@RowanBird779 Haha yup! Made the original comment 4 years ago :D
Thanks for telling about the clock capacitor! I've got 3 original Xbox consoles that will get a checkup due to this!
*cringes at how thermal paste was applied*
I was about to write a very angry comment, thanks for doing it for me.
I was looking for this comment
It doesn't make the slightest bit of difference.
Yep, felt the same way. I knew there would be a comment already here. Haha
the cpu wasnt bad, its fine to spread paste even though i dont do it. science has proved that. The gpu annoyed me though because it was still dirty. Its honestly prob not that big a deal but why go through the trouble to not do it right? still love mvg
Great video. You can still buy an upgraded original xbox from N64 Freak by the way if this video has you intrigued. I think he's the only person still making them though.
133 degree F is fine, i mean the PS4 for example hits around 70-80 Celsius which is 20-30 degree hotter
NonsensicalVids I'm really glad everything nowadays uses the standardised metric measurement of temperature though, means that I can watch American pc youtubers and understand the temperatures without being incredibly confused
I know both as I know quite a few Americans, and after a while conversion just becomes a rough estimate
At a certain point you don't need to estimate or translate the number into the other system.You just develop a feel for both systems, it's like a speaking a language, where you feel the meaning directly, and you don't have to first translate it into your native language. Once you know the general bench marks, like freezing temp, boiling temp, room temp, then it becomes pretty intuitive
NonsensicalVids and it's fan is insanely loud as a result. Not good!
I personally thought the thermal compound looked a bit heavy on both the CPU and the GPU....133F idle seems pretty high to me. If it were under load and it were 133F I wouldn't think to much of it. I know similar CPU's back in the day in a standard PC setup ran around 104f idle. Thing is on those console heatsinks in my experience they don't make the most snug fit with the chips in some cases, so if you have a bit to much compound on the chip there isn't enough pressure to thin it out enough to make good contact between the cpu and HS.
Those temperatures look pretty normal for a CPU especially in that era. When you convert it to Celsius it looks more like 40C to 60C which seems very normal to me. My laptop CPU is 50C right now...
Yeah 40C was not that bad as idle temp even if not that efficient considering that's a weak Celeron CPU, indeed very popular as the cheaper alternative to the late Pentium III/early Pentium 4, but outdated compared to the PC gaming already using early Pentium 4 above 2Ghz clock speed.
Technically the Xbox was like a previous gen gaming PC.
130 Fahrenheit is about 54°C
@@Deutschehordenelite Of course I'm talking about 40 Celsius degrees. We use the correct ones in Europe.
Don't spread thermal compound, use one single blob in the center.
Some CPUs are concave others are convex. Thats why you should let the pressure of the cooler pushing onto the CPU spread it.
I've wanted to buy one for a long time but the website making them went down a long time ago and it didn't seem like I could find this anywhere else.
Did you find one ?
You find o ne
hi
eBay
Ebay
I spent literally years of my life editing and coding Xbmc and slayers evo X bios code to distribute to mod chippers all around my city. Those were some of the best days of my life.
Awesome. How was the pay like ? This is a freelancer thing, right ?
Nice! I had never heard of the friendtech upgrades, but I did increase my ram. These look awesome!
but can it run hl2
It can, and it runs very well.
I had an 'WTF' moment when I heard 130 degrees, thank god it's fahrenheit and not celsius.
Recently bought an XBOX that looked brand new on the inside, not even a speck of dust, and it had not been opened before.
You can bet your bottom dollar that removing that clock capacitor was the first thing on my mind!
When the people started to miss there own Xboxes I was most impressed. It said we could get it done just like the people that made the console. How they did it is alot like how we can be alot better than our previous accomplishments.
Thanks for the capacitor tip, never knew about it. Got it removed ASAP, and yes it leaked already, but no damage.
+Modern Vintage Gamer -- Hey! This was an awesome vid -- it's super cool that you've chosen such an interesting, uncommon topic to share with us!
Question about the way you applied thermal paste to your processor before re-seating the heatsink: I've always thought (and was taught) that when applying thermal paste, you should put a small amount (roughly the circumference of a dime) of the paste in the center of the chip and then let the bottom surface of the heatsink force the paste to spread out evenly along the the surface of the chip when they're pressed together, which supposedly allows for optimal thermal transfer AND helps ensure the strongest possible bond between the processor and the heatsink body. I was taught that this method was preferred over hand-spreading the thermal paste because hand-spreading could cause an issue where some of the spots on the surface of the chip, when mated with the heatsink, could end up with more paste on them than others, which could result in less-than-ideal thermal transfer between the chip and the heatsink, as well as sub-optimal physical bonding between them. *Therefore, I'm curious as to why you chose to hand-spread the thermal paste over the surface of the chip instead?* Is there some benefit to that technique I'm not aware of?
Thanks so much!
I love this channel. It made me realize that original xbox is not dead yet and someone still cares.
Was really hoping you'd try out some of the more demanding Xbox games, like Half Life 2, Halo 2, Black, etc.
This was my dream machine...you got a piece of art
That moment when you realize that today's digital tv streaming boxes are more powerful than a game console from 2004...
from 2001
My watch is more powerful than an original Xbox.
Dude this console design is mad, love the idea of giving ol faithful more
power
N64Freak makes upgraded motherboards that run at 1512mhz. Technically those are the "most powerful" original xbox consoles.
Fantastic video, I never knew about the existence of this modded xbox by FriendTech, btw loved the background music.
Nice touch including Pinball Dreams mod while DreamX logo appeared :-)
not a day without Amiga
I love the music from Pinball Dreams/Fantasies. In fact I really wish those games would get a remaster into HD as they are still great fun to play even with Pinball FX and Pinball Arcade out there.
For years I wanted remastered games.
Some of them released indeed but time revealed to me that nothing is like the original :-)
I was really big into modding my Xbox back in the day. I installed a xenium mod chip on my 1.0 Xbox as well as a 300gb hd. I hit a memory wall with a bunch of Mame games, so I used a service that upgraded the memory to 128gb. I forget what company I used or what it cost, but the upgrade was amazing... all of the previous games that failed to work due to memory issues now worked fine. I still use this Xbox all the time, it’s such an amazing emulation station. Anyone that wants a fun modding project should seriously look into these machines. The emulators developed on this platform are some of the best I’ve ever used.
I winced when I saw how you cleaned up the leaked capacitor's electrolytic fluid.
Just use a q-tip and some distilled white vinegar, then let it air dry. That'll both neutralize the electrolytic fluid, as well as cleaning it up.
Also, spreading the thermal paste before putting the heatsink on results in air bubbles. Put a dab in the center of the CPU, placement of the heatsink will spread the thermal paste evenly and air bubble free.
You can see this directly by taking 2 microscope slides, and trying both application methods out, spreading the thermal paste before putting sandwiching it between the slides will lead to very noticeable air bubbles, whereas placing a dot, and spreading it by sandwiching it between the slides will leave no air bubbles.
That said, there are a few very think thermal pastes that you actually do need to spread manually, but those are pretty rare.
I wish homebrew devs would the PS3 possiblities to the limit and use the horse power of the console.
A Xbox with that upgrade would bave been a dream bakc in the day.
Add a pc fan in it, with rgb and make that vent clear, and add a few more,
You got a ps3 with rgb and better fps!
Additionally: I am surprised that they didn't include a 5v fan on top of the heatsink, or a 12v fan running at 5v.
Wow the ultimate homebrew Xbox! Thanks for sharing this. Seriously contemplated getting one back in the day.
1:00 Megadeth!! Good music choice dude.
\m/
First thing I noticed too! Best track on Countdown...
My favorite MegaDeth song is Sweating Bullets. w/b you?
VGFreak100 Holy Wars without doubt. Maybe because it was the first Megadeth song I ever heard, but it blew me away.
That's a good one!
Ooh! Another of my favorites is Kill the King.
I never did any of these mods to use my xbox for dvd, cd, music storage, etc. I just bought the remote control.
It was my only media player for ten years.
I have always loved XBMC!! And I miss running it as my main media center. Would be awesome to replace the old Xbox (original's) hardware with hardware that can run in 1080p-4k, but still using the old XBMC looking software!
Not sure if it's possible to emulate Xbox (original) games.. Yet. 🤔🤔
I remember cutting a broken xbox controller's cable and wiring a USB socket to it so I could hook up a USB drive with XBMC. Certain games would let you load a save file, which was modded to boot XBMC and let you flash it. It was so much fun to play around with.
It's so strange; as an adult I have a hard time getting interested in new games, but with emulation and the journey of homebrew I instantly get excited to play the classics once I have done the diligence and work to get there. I love the 3ds modding scene, I just think I ended up being a handheld guy at heart. I never would have guessed that when I was younger, but I have probably put triple or more hours into that scene. Learning is half the fun, I have 0 programming skills but I can read and follow directions really well lol:)
That Pinball Fanstasies mod music almost made me cry. Nice video!
I don't think 133f is anywhere near a concerning temp for a cpu.
Do R/C!
lol My eyebrow almost went into orbit when he mentioned the temps because most people use celsius when talking about pc heat. That’s well within safe limits if the xbox cpu is made of the same stuff as modern cpus.
56c
Hell. My modded 360 idles at 62c lol
Yeah, I don't think he realized it was F not C
James P
The CPU would turn off way before it reaches 133 degrees Celsius though. I think he realized it was in Fahrenheit.
Very cool this modded Xbox. Back in generation 6, I owned all consoles so Dreamcast, PlayStation 2, Xbox and GameCube. This generation is my favorite and I still own a GameCube with many games.
2:33 Huh, so that song is from the Amiga game Pinball Dreams. I just remember it coming with Realmz.
Dude, when I heard that. i went back 25yrs
I actually bought one of these back in the day and it’s the first time I’m seeing it pop up online. What a nice memory - as always great video! 🙂
Great video - absolutely love the original Xbox videos
Nice. I just dug my DreamX out of a closet, full recap, XboxHD+ and Stellar chip installed. Works great!
Yeah, but can it run Crysis?
It can't even play 720p video in full framerate
Are you back with jillian?
THGR Official that don’t matter, it still looks fucking sick
yes at 140p lol
Great video MVG! I luv the og xbox such a well made console that really benefits from modding.
The DreamX-1480 an awesome upgrade- those homebrew games & emulators run well with the extra powaar! :)
Hey. Would you be willing to share the custom CPU adapter board design with the ASSEMbler game forum guys? A few years back I sparked up interest in this console but seeing as how rare they are none there could get their hands on the custom board to clone it so we can recreate this beast system. Sure we have modern 1.4 GHz CPU mods but they just aren't the same as this one with the slight overclock and speed switch. If high quality pictures were shared of the adapter board (assuming it can be removed without destroying the console) were shared then someone could remake it and offer them for people who want this capability on their systems. The media key is not needed as it was really just a lockout system and thus not needed. The RAM mod is easy as anyone who can do SMD soldering can pull the mod off.
We just need that board to exactly copy what Friendtech did for the CPU mod back in the day.
I was in college when these were being made and wanted one. We mostly used the XBMC and wanted 720p compatibility but also did some gaming on it for exclusive/nonPC titles. By the time I had the money for it FriendTech stopped making them. I hope Xbox soon has "standard" cpu/gpu/apus/ram again so they are up-gradable like this. Even if it requires removal and soldering chips to the boards.
I want to see this done with an SSD mod as well, then we might finally be able to play morrowind without the stutters and a good resolution.
God I love these original XBox videos. Thanks for another awesome video and showcasing some homebrew in the process (HLx, etc).
I was just jonesing for an MVG/Xbox fix - great stuff
great video, man. I love how you montage'd the break-down and clean-up, but you actually showed it. Great filler music as well. Awesome and informative vid.
I'm also a "spread a thin layer of arctic silver" type of of guy, I guess some people just use a dollop and let the pressure of the heat sink spread the paste out...
Ultimately it really depends on the mounting pressure of the heatsink, though neither way is inherently bad. For laptops and graphics cards I like to make sure to spread the paste around first, but for consumer desktop CPUs it's usually not a problem with a dot or a line in the middle.
Prespreading is bad, as you have no way to know which parts of the heatsink require more thermal compound and which parts need less. You're also trapping air between the heatsink which doesn't conduct heat. No thermal compound manufacturer recommends prespreading their grease, except the liquid metal ones.
Sometimes you should pre-spread on the heatsink, especially if the copper heat pipes make direct contact on the CPU. There are usually gaps between the pipes so just putting on the thermal paste and letting the pressure spread it, doesn't work.
Temperatures measured in Fahrenheit makes me want to kms. 40-50 Celsius (104-120°F) is actually really good btw
I LOVE THIS CHANNEL!
Really digging the MGS 2 soundtrack in the background.
PSA: Please use a proper ESD brush rather than a (Nylon) toothbrush when cleaning the MB!
What do you think the bristles on an anti-static brush are made of exactly. Hint: Most of them are nylon or polypropylene, just like a toothbrush!
@@timbdotus Your point being? ESD brushes use carbon loading of the plastics to add a partially conductive path - standard toothbrushes don´t.
The reason I made my comment was to ensure epople use the right tools and don´t end up damaging their machines, especially as ESD can cause latent failure mechanisms through partial punch-through of the MOSFET gate. Source: IPC certified, senior member IEEE and 20 years of industry experience.
@@laurens4359 and did you ever find a video on youtube where such a thing happened? Stop being a safety bish. When people do stuff their are not supposed to do, they are well aware of the dangers.
I wish I could work under you as an intern. It would be awesome, I've still got so much more to learn.
whats that top down arpg game at 9:05 ?
Sin and Punishement
that is not sin and punishment at 9:05 and sin and punishment is not a top down arpg lol
Its Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance, is gud shit bud
Love restoration videos like these with older tech. So relaxing.
Did he just spread the thermal paste with his filthy oily fingers? Did he just do that??
Well, he did just prior use an alcohol swab, so oil is somewhat less...I always used an old credit card to spread it around.
Haha ya that was great. Should probably ask Linus how to apply thermal paste
I've built a few dozen PC's in my lifetime, you don't have to spread the paste at all, in fact it's best if you don't.
Simply put a rice grain sized bead of paste down, and evenly press the heatsink onto the CPU, the pressure will perfectly spread itself.
If you pre-spread it, you create an uneventful surface (no matter how hard you try it will be ever so slightly uneven) and this could easily create air bubbles between the heatsink and thermal paste once installed.
To test this theory, install it with both methods and remove the heatsink by sliding it off in one direction as opposed to lifting it vertically or twisting it. You will see streaks with the pre-spread paste because of it's unevenness, and should see smooth swipe with the pressure-spread method.
Came to the comments to look for this
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holy snap Half-Life on OG Xbox, wow thats so cool i've seen it all
Isn’t that a lot of thermal paste you’re using?
Playing with my modded XBOX now. One of my all time favorite games is Crimson Skies. Highly underrated IMHO.
This is porno to me :X:X:X I really want an upgraded 128 MB Xbox Classic and upgraded CPU. I already have 4 Original Xbox's in my house :) All of them connected in their own rooms on component cables, tsop modded with latest XBMC4XBOX and CoinOPS Build, upgraded IDE 7200 RPM HDD (500, 250, 120 GB), all of them connected to the same network for system link multiplayer and with lots of games, music and movies on them :P :X:X:X
I really really want an upgraded Xbox, but I can't find any in Romania. It is such a same. Xbox is the best console and media center I have ever seen in my entire life.
PS: Your work with emulation development and also your work on this videos you make, are really really appreciated. Also, your work will live on for at least as long as I have breath on this earth :)
Long live Modern Vintage Gamer, Original Xbox, XBMC and CoinOPS !!! What a wonderful family :X:X:X
do the movies need to be 480p and 2.63 ffmpeg encoding? I wanted to make one for movies and shows but this made me unsure
Omg the e3 limited edition making of halo 2 clips, i have that cd somewhere and i love it. It inspired me to try voice acting and i still want to work on getting to do that today because of it
Hay there good watch keep it up👍there are still moddres keeping the Original Xbox mods alive & updated like the forum on facebook... Xbox (Original) Modding, Trading, Discussion (OGX.com).... or OGX.com I've learnt alot from guys like you & from OGX.com & the guys from Xbox Facebook forum's. I've have done a 128mb ram upgrade, x2 2tb 2.5 sata internal upgrade & internal hdmi set up. To my original xbox halo. With xecuter chip & screen panel. With alot of new xbmc & alot of update emulators.
If it wasn't for guys like you & others that pave the way to show noobs like me how to do mod things. none of my modz I done to my own xbox would of been possible. Thanks
Jackson Pirikahu why I move to www.ogxbeauty.com by your link?
the page is ogxbox.com, his link is incorrect.
Hay thanks Steve Benson. It is OGXBOX.COM my bad Steve Benson is one of the great people on there that helped me out as I lurk through the forum's & read alot of modding stuff from guys like him to better my skills
Yeah, I'm on there facebook page I've sold alot of my modded systems there
great video brother, I really enjoyed it! never did any modding myself however I do understand most of what you mentioned.
There is not enough power of 1.4 ghz tualatin on 133fsb to play 720p(Captain Obvious), i tried experement in my overclocked pc, even on 160bus speed!! I have frame drop to 20fps. 720p playble only in 2x-cpu tualatin system.
And about cooling, if you need easy skip temp to -5 or -7°(cel) you need scalping cpu, and change stock radiator to copper radiator it's very effective.
Сыч it's the lack of SSE2 that really hurts the video playback performance, a Celeron M 1.4GHz for example has no trouble playing back 720p video.
Yuki Saitou hmm interesting, mb you right about sse2, but athlon xp 2000+(1667mhz) has not sse2 to, and it can play 720p very well. I think tualatin cant play 720p because Slooow SDRam, on sd ram athlon cant play 720p to, but with ddr all good.
which players have you tried? try something like smplayer, it ships with fresh mplayer builds, fastest windows player I can think of.
Watching you spread that thermal paste gave me an aneurysm.
WTF with that thermal paste? A pea size blob in the center is ideal. Is there something different about that heatsink?
It’s cool running games on og hardware, and till emulation is near 100% compatible this is the best option, but when emulators can run all games in 4K natively that will be the best option
Why are temps in Farenheit?
LeDinx why not?
DiTi Most system temps on computers, consoles etc. are measured in C, even in NA.
There are conversion calculators, online and as downloadable apps for, computers, mobile devices, etc, or you can always ask a virtual assistant on your phone, or a Google Home or Alexa if you have one.
double the celsuis number then add 30 thatll be in farenheit almost.
I would assume that was the default setting for the program and he was fine with it and/or used to seeing Xbox temp ranges in Fahrenheit. In any event, MVG is an Australian living in the US, so he's probably just as comfortable using either system - hell, even in Canada, we flip back and forth, measuring human weight in pounds and height in feet & inches, then turn around and use Celsius for temps and longer distances in kilometres.
P.S. Thomas' system is good up to a point, though F = 32 + (C*1.8) would be more exact, and helpful in cases of colder than freezing - mind you, CPUs are usually hotter than freezing :)
Awesome music dude, almost the best I've ever heard for these types of videos
Plex is also a split off of XBMC, and from what I can tell, far more well known than Kodi.
I never even knew this existed at all. I knew of the ram upgrade which you had to solder on, but, this is pretty great. I am not sure why you used your finger to spread thermal paste, that mixes in grease from your skin into it. I've always used a dot in the middle and let the cpu heatsink spread it with pressure evenly.
lol so many people cringed when i did that, ive been doing that for years across many many PC and console builds and my temps have always been great
@@ModernVintageGamersame never noticed that any difference in temps either
Complaining that the OG Xbox wasn't a media center is missing the point. It wasn't supposed to be a media center. I mean look what happened to the Xbox one after trying to be a media center. It kind of got stomped into the dirt. That's what made the Xbox 360 great. It was a solid console with good games and not too many unnecessary shit.
I do think it would be cool to have 1 of these though. Still a lot of great Xbox games I want to play.
Kos4Evr i think the xbox 360 is backwards compatible. Not sure though.
Kos4Evr TBH, I think the number one turn off was the always online DRM.
I think all people want is a great game console with possibly the basic means to watch videos, that xbox one launch was a disaster that MS never recovered from (not just the bad game library on launch but the needing internet 24/7 to not own a £550 piece of plastic, and having to buy 2nd hand games - these really damaged it's chances)
There is an Xbox Revision that already has double the ram. It was one of the last models to be released. I actually own one. I can take pics and show it off. It's the version 1.6b(i know it's 1.6 but not sure on the B)
proof?
I,had the 1.6B. It cant be tsop flash. Just softmod. Its only 64 mb of.ram
Feel true power😎
btw, a buddy of mine has an early xbox classic beta model that really is just an matx pc, we used a similar cpu to this one(from another maker but made to work in nearly any 370 board), its also a 1.4ghz last gen p3 celeron, it has alot more ram then that though, 384(most we could get at the time), also unlike the release model, its video card was just an OEM geforce card, turned out we where able to replace the card with one that was quite a bit more powerful being the ultra version of the same gen chipset, the system is still pretty capable, it also came with windows 2k dual boot(full 2k) as well as a slew of extra software that was for dev and debugging, he released an image of the things drive online back in the day, as well as its bios, that where updated along with a software update, it got software updates till ms stopped supporting the xbox, and unlike release models, you really could rename alot of exe files to a dif extension and get them to run via the xbox software rather then windows, i keep telling him, when his wife makes him get rid of it, to bring it to me, dont dare throw it out... it around 2x as thick as a release xbox, and is really just an xbox like shell on an matx computer, really cool though to upgrade them like that.
OH, another note, you can automate the rip and patch process, at least on his, it asks when you put a new game in if you want to play it or "install to hard drive", when it does an "install" it copies the whole game over and patches the title.
the xbox was neat, i just wish they had used even more pc like hardware...hell just a couple ram slots in the normal unit would have been great...
Holy shit that’s a lot of thermal paste
133f is 56c, which is actually very cool for a classic Xbox under load, suggesting the CPU is actually a lower TDP/more efficient CPU, which would also explain why it doesn't make the power supply explode.
133 f is about 55 celcus. Nowhere near the danger zone
Most temps are celcus. I don’t know what the danger zone for that chip is. But its likely arround 80 to 100c. I am comfortable anywhere below 90c on my devices. 100c is about the temp for slow but perminant damage. At 95c i cut the power to the system programmatically
the pentium 3 will automatically throttle at 69C for the Tualatin core
Wow, I had absolutely no idea that these kind of upgrades existed! Interesting stuff.
"Plays at a locked 60fps..." *game immediately takes a 10fps dip*
Locked just means it won’t break 60fps. Doesn’t mean it can’t dip below that.
Nice, I could say that I’m very happy that I saw your videos and bought an OG Xbox again. I was playing 6th gen era consoles through emulators, mainly due to the fact that it was a hassle having to get the memory cards and inserting discs, but the Xbox OG doesn’t have that problem, since you can run everything off the HDD.