Fabulous Shimmy’s Consumer Reports. Quite an eye opener. Thank you. I’ve had customers go ballistic after washing a Redbubble t-shirt! Their bad quality is only matched by their outrageous prices and lack of customer or seller support.
CLOTHING AFTER A WASHING...RESULTS: SPRING using AS color (expensive) good color & feel; 1st wash: faded and cracked; 2nd wash: worse; after 3rd wash/dry: terrible TEEPUBLIC a bit scratchy, good color; 1st wash: colors faded and cracking; 2nd wash: failed; after 3rd wash/dry: not best, but not worst *AMZ nice color, some bleed out the box; 1st wash: came out good; 2nd wash: good; after 3rd wash/dry: perfect *MOTIF cheapest, colors ok; 1st wash: came out good; 2nd wash: "perfect" he said, but colors are lighter from getgo imo; after 3rd wash/dry: good REDBUBBLE (most expensive) nice color; 1st wash: colors faded and cracking; 2nd wash: worse; after 3rd wash/dry: terrible *PRINTFUL colors ok, good clear print; 1st wash: came out good; 2nd wash: "perfect" he said, but colors are light from getgo imo; after 3rd wash/dry: did very well P.S. he mispoke at 18:03...I think he meant to say "passed" instead of "failed".
@18:03 I think that he said it right.. "those all three failed" pointing towards the other t-shirts... it is a bit unfortunate and unclear at first, but that's how I understood his comment... those that hevsaid the names (printiful, amz and motif) passed, those other ones (rb, tp, spr) failed.. 🤔🙂 edit: regrading price - @16:11 it's been said that as color was THE most expensive (over £23)
However I was told by Printfy that the shirt's sweatshirt's etc. for best results you lay flat to dry or hang and if you use the dryer use tumble low heat only.
Thanks for your informative videos.. I watched on a video from printful on how to avoid colors fading where they recommend washing a tshirt inside-out, temp 30c, no fabric softener. To some degree your test is useful as it still shows which tshirt withstood the harshest conditions.
It would be interesting to compare the printing qualities for the same companies also because they all work with local printers. And maybe the Redbubble Europe printer is different than Redbubble US printer or Australian printer? (maybe a video collab with POD RUclipsrs in those countries can be a way to do it?)
that's what i'm wondering too. i am in germany. usually we have rather high quality standards. if i wash the product exactly as described and it drastically fades, i'm getting my money back for sure.
@@EviLz-Cach1xX I unfortunately haven’t gotten around to opening a new shop yet because of my job keeping me busy, but I’ll definitely let you know which one I choose when I get back into it!
Thank you so much for this video, It definitely saved me time and now I know that I am going with Printful and Amazon for my You Tube Merch. Well done. Lot's of love from the American Hillbilly and the Hillbilly Nation.
I always wash all my printed shirts inside out, as well as dry them inside out. Not sure if it makes a difference, but I have shirts that have lasted years and years.
@@shimmymorris1 That makes sense. Probably the average person just dumps everything in. It was a great video, and definitely a bit shocking with some of the results! Thanks again!
@@AnthonyVickersSoulJahTYah i could but I don't think washing inside out would be a fair test as a lot of people don't do that and a company can't rely on the customer to do that
Thanks for this helpful video! A friend of mine bought a T-shirt from Redbubble and the paint came off after just one hand wash. The printing is also fuzzy and not sharp.
UK London fan here hoping to launch my designs in Nov officially! ..Hi Shimmy could you do a quick vid follow up comparison costing of those same Tees you just washed i know you repeated the two that cost more but a cost profit markup would help us in our decisions too. great job u do bro . watching many of your back story vids awesome insight. Best wishes.
Actually I meant to say, I ordered a few T-shirts for myself, my washing machine has a 30 minute eco cycle that I use all the time (except for linens and towels and unmentionables), and the white letters on black shirt started cracking after the 2nd wash! I was very disappointed. I’m going to look into other options now. And watch your videos 🥰 Thanks for all your help 👍🤗
I'm sure they'll be the usual nonsense responses from the companies saying it's a one off or you've washed it wrong. Truth be told this is literally bottom of the barrel printing. I have t-shirts that have lasted me between 5 - 15 years and still have a design on, i have some heatpress, some screen printed and there all absolutely fine. If this happens on the 1st or 2nd wash then it's all over sadly. Shoddy cheap printing from multi million pound companies is pretty sad, they could fix this with just buying better ink.
I think you should do another test where each company prints on the same style/brand garment. That way the only variables you have are the different print methods, and companies. Then you will have a true test based on the print alone. Also you will get to see if any company has improved on their prints since your last test.
Redbubble used to be quite good. Something changed. Last t-shirt I bought couldn't handle one single wash before deteriorating. Haven't touched them since.
GREAT VIDEO!!! New subscriber from Australia 👋👋👋👋 I will usually buy a few sizes up to allow for any shrinkage as everything goes in the dryer. I want to wear my products as well and I want my customers to be happy with what they ordered as do I.
I designed a shirt for my husband and had it printed with printful. I'm a little disappointed because it's been a year the the print is unfortunately starting to fall apart. Meanwhile I have a concert shirt I bought about 15 years ago and still wear regularly that is in better shape. Can't help but wonder if print quality in general is just worse now or if I got unlucky.
@@summerisherechannel8242 I think so. I came across RealThread and they only do orders based on bulk, but they have made shirts for well-known brands and I believe they make sure that there is quality to what they make.
Nice video. I see many already covered the inside out washing, but how many people actually do that so good real world test. I do think most POD places say not to use fabric softener on their products. Again what would people do in the real world?
i wonder what would happen when you throw them in the dryer straight out of the packaging, prior to washing any new teeshirts. Putting them in the dryer "cures" the screenprints, i was told this by friends in that business previously.
it depends on the style you're going for. For normal print on demand go for DTG. For luxury appeal go for embroidery... i have a video coming out about embroidery soon
This is helpful thanks. I’d be curious about a deeper dive investigating why there’s such a difference. Is it the printing method or the ink used? There’s a clear difference in these results so the companies are clearly making different choices. An Inkthreadable sweatshirt I ordered was really bad after a couple of washes, which made us sad as their eco credentials were so good otherwise. Are the eco inks not sticking as well? But having clothes which last has to be seen as an important eco factor surely?
I'm not sure what they're all doing differently. It could be minor things but without visiting the factories and watching the process I wouldn't know. I have found the eco products are any worse, it's more a company issue
So sir I was thinking to start tshirt designing, which platform you must suggest, my frined suggested teespring, or other suggested redbubble. I would like your opinion as for a beginner.
@@shimmymorris1 Thank-you for suggestion, but the issue is I am not into opening store but am looking for a platform like redbubble or spring or zazzle but as you told about the quality, although I haven't started selling yet, I care for customers. And the issue with printful is I cannot sell directly but have to link an online store, any other site you will recommend. I am a complete beginner.
@@hamnakhan769 i'm still looking for a company that is decent that has a built in marketplace. i have a video coming out soon. I'll be testing a whole bunch
An additional question I have is, "Why is the pattern in ware on the design so distinct?" It seems as though there is more deterioration in the test pattern towards the lower section of each shirt. While there is less deterioration in the upper areas, any idea as to why?
i put a particularly difficult design on the shirt to see if the companies could handle it. The design has different levels of opacity which is a hard thing to print, but some companies can do it successfully and that's what I wanted to find out
Where the design is lighter in opacity there's less ink used in the printing, so because these companies have done it badly it's the first area to wear off.
I’m just starting out and designed a shirt to put on Redbubble. I then bought the Essential t-shirt to test the quality. Did not notice shrinkage, but after the second wash the print looked exactly like your Redbubble test. My design was cracking and peeling off! Not a happy camper, so now I’m on the lookout for a better POD company. I care about my customers and just as I am frustrated about the quality, I know they would be too.
Yes I wish these big companiesi cared about the customers as much as we do and only made quality products especially as they are charging such premium prices for their items!
@@shimmymorris1 I have a page on Instagram with a lot of followers about rap and I thought I could sell shirts there too, so I can not design rapper designs?
@@arielsofa7641 Each rapper singer (or whatever person) does have rights over their brand, their artistic production and even over their name and public image (ie, even a photo of their face, even if taken by you!). If you would get a special (written and signed) deal/contract with them, giving you rights to earn money using their image, products image, name or personal image, and specifying details like where can you publish, how many copies, etc.... then yep. But it is not the case, it seems. And for any artist/company is super easy to put down any product using their logo/artist photo/brand/name, etc. I mean, is forbidden even if you wouldn't monetize it in any way. It's just that for fans/fan pages when there's no income, most often the brands and companies don't take action, but once one starts selling t-shirts or other merchandise using _anything_ of them, that gets put down. Often is not even by them, but a company who own their image rights or etc.
@@shimmymorris1 Perhaps we could limit ourselves to selling stickers on RB. What about mugs? I've had mugs where the printing peels off after a few weeks. Could you do a test comparing mug print quality between POD companies? I guess that's harder than a t-shirt test.
Printify doesn't work the same, it works with many companies... so It wouldn't make sense as you can pick which fulfilment company you want to go with... there's tons to choose from
Great video Shimmy, as usual. On another topic...for a new etsy seller starting a POD business, can you suggest a simple cost effective (or free) way to keep track of the books/finances? Currently using Printful but about to branch out to other suppliers too. Thanks so much.
This video was badly needed. I want to try interest print too as they are one of the only ones with all over long sleeve collared shirts, and I can't find even a picture of one of their shirts on the web lol
So how many years did it take to make this video, the upmost important thing for most people. Seeing as most of these print on demand shirts start flaking and become trash within a couple washes. This should have been the first video you made about print on demand t shirt quality
I can't imagine started out on, for example, Etsy, have an amazing selling shirt right from the start, and WHAM !!!! you have customers asking for refunds because the amazing shirt that you were excited to sell hundreds of in your first few days, are a disaster after your customers washed the shirt. And after one time. Insane !
@@shimmymorris1 Your videos are a valuable asset. I ordered a sample shirt using "words" on a shirt. The long of the short, unless it is "words" on a white shirt, people need to order a sample. I printed letters, a good size, of different colors and most had a cracked look, and the colors are off. Not true to color. Silk Screening has been and still is KING when it comes to printing on tshirts.
Thanks for the videos! I loved both parts. I wish you had included Spreadshop in these videos as it's one of the companies that can get a RUclips merch shelf along with Teespring. Would it be possible to do quality + wash tests for a Spreadshop t-shirt? Also, you showed a t-shirt with a DTF (Direct-To-Film) print which is much different from DTG (Direct-To-Garment) which involves printing ink directly onto the shirt. Would it be possible for you to review a DTG printed t-shirt as well? Either way, thanks so much for these videos. I was thinking about Teespring but I'll for sure avoid them thanks to your videos. Spreadshop looks to be my only option as someone who wants a YT merch shelf.
The washing/drying labels will be sewn into the seams of these blank T-shirts before any printing. The T-shirts manufacturer may not know what their buyer (the POD co) is using to print. I would write on my POD page that I would advise buyers to wash on 30° and to not tumble dry, just to be on the safe side. I’d imagine these POD companies test this out themselves, but see the peeling off designs here for example, it looks like they don’t.
I started with Printful and was using them a lot, literally all the T-shirts that ARE NOT ALL OVER PRINT crack after drying. they hold up perfectly after every wash, but when you dry them hey fall apart. The all over T shirts r the best n Printful. but when it comes to hoodies and t shirts with normal print, the print never last.
So as a result of your tests, what would you recommend one should use as the best POD company to work with. I am shocked to see what happened to the Redbubble shirts and I have put in so much effort to make it work. I wouldn't want to expose my customer to such bad quality. Would washing the Tees cold make a difference?
In fairness, the t-shirts were all washed the wrong way because if they were all turned inside out the print is protected, won't rub against the other t-shirts prints, and the arm pit and collar area needs to make contact with the washing detergent most to remove sweat marks. I think this test should be retaken.
I did what most people would do and that’s wash with the design on the outside. Not everyone knows to wash inside out so didn’t think that would be fair test
@@shimmymorris1 so it was more a test to see which brand has poor print quality over the others. Also keep in mind not everyone has a dryer. Perhaps mother nature could have given a different result.
On a side note, I am amazed at the number of people who say "anyways" (such as in this video). I don't know if it's spreading from person to person around the world, or I just hear it more because I'm watching and reading so much online content compared to 5-10 years ago. I just don't like that ssss on the end, LOL. Anyway, back to the scheduled program. 😂
I was going to sell t-shirts and jumpers from Pritfull. I bought one hoodie for myself as a sample after one wash the picture was broken, cracked and faded so as it stands I have confidence in selling anything from them now! Has anyone else had a similar experience? Also does anyone know a company that you do have full faith in selling
@@shimmymorris1 I’m deaf can’t hear you speak video .I want ask which best very good print quality and wash no crack? tell me get know about let I order t shirt which company
Fabulous Shimmy’s Consumer Reports. Quite an eye opener. Thank you. I’ve had customers go ballistic after washing a Redbubble t-shirt! Their bad quality is only matched by their outrageous prices and lack of customer or seller support.
thanks! glad you liked it. It really is shocking!
CLOTHING AFTER A WASHING...RESULTS:
SPRING using AS color (expensive) good color & feel; 1st wash: faded and cracked; 2nd wash: worse; after 3rd wash/dry: terrible
TEEPUBLIC a bit scratchy, good color; 1st wash: colors faded and cracking; 2nd wash: failed; after 3rd wash/dry: not best, but not worst
*AMZ nice color, some bleed out the box; 1st wash: came out good; 2nd wash: good; after 3rd wash/dry: perfect
*MOTIF cheapest, colors ok; 1st wash: came out good; 2nd wash: "perfect" he said, but colors are lighter from getgo imo; after 3rd wash/dry: good
REDBUBBLE (most expensive) nice color; 1st wash: colors faded and cracking; 2nd wash: worse; after 3rd wash/dry: terrible
*PRINTFUL colors ok, good clear print; 1st wash: came out good; 2nd wash: "perfect" he said, but colors are light from getgo imo; after 3rd wash/dry: did very well
P.S. he mispoke at 18:03...I think he meant to say "passed" instead of "failed".
very detailed. thank you...
@@shimmymorris1 yvw ;) ty 4 all ur awesome and useful content
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@18:03 I think that he said it right.. "those all three failed" pointing towards the other t-shirts...
it is a bit unfortunate and unclear at first, but that's how I understood his comment...
those that hevsaid the names (printiful, amz and motif) passed, those other ones (rb, tp, spr) failed.. 🤔🙂
edit: regrading price - @16:11 it's been said that as color was THE most expensive (over £23)
However I was told by Printfy that the shirt's sweatshirt's etc. for best results you lay flat to dry or hang and if you use the dryer use tumble low heat only.
thank you for this, this gives me some reassurance about printful's quality after I've been worrying reading all kinds of random reviews
Really helpful thanks. I'm preparing to launch my print on demand. All got a bit confusing. But your tubes have given me a better sense of direction
woohoo so happy my videos have helped! Good luck!
@Sarasmith6878 did you ever start one ? if so, how's it going?
I don’t even wear graphics and you got me watching this whole thing, just with your charm and the test’s suspense. Cheers!
thank you!
I've been wanting to do POD, but I've always had questions about which POD had the best/worst quality. Thanks for answering those questions!
you're welcome!
Thanks for your informative videos.. I watched on a video from printful on how to avoid colors fading where they recommend washing a tshirt inside-out, temp 30c, no fabric softener. To some degree your test is useful as it still shows which tshirt withstood the harshest conditions.
Thank you for taking the time to do this. Great video. Quite interesting.
Glad you liked it!!
Fantastic review part 1 & 2 Shimmy and Mrs Shimmy, keep em coming!
Shimmy! Thanks for doing this dude! You've saved ALOT of people time, money, and having happy customers vs angry! Very cool.
Glad to help
Shimmy... do you feel me LOVING you right now for making this video??? I'm so grateful for you right now! Thank you!!!
so happy you liked it! Thanks soo much for the kind comment
What a great video, I was looking forward to this one, thanks so much Shimmy!!!
thanks so much! glad you liked it
It would be interesting to compare the printing qualities for the same companies also because they all work with local printers. And maybe the Redbubble Europe printer is different than Redbubble US printer or Australian printer? (maybe a video collab with POD RUclipsrs in those countries can be a way to do it?)
that's interesting! I'll write this one down as that could be really helpful, so people knew where to sell to get the best quality results
Was just about to suggest the same - a test from different countries
@@shimmymorris1 Does it have a restrictions in what heat it can be washed? for example 30, 40. 60 probably not. We in Europe have 30, 40, 60.
that's what i'm wondering too. i am in germany. usually we have rather high quality standards. if i wash the product exactly as described and it drastically fades, i'm getting my money back for sure.
I can tell you from experience that redbubble in the US is garbage as well.
It's been 2 years, can you do another one of these video, and see how they have improved or are still bad?
Thank you for this video, I recently closed my spring shop because my samples started to crack & now I know where to go next to continue my business
you're welcome! sorry that happened to you, I hope your next supplier is better
What do u use now?
@@EviLz-Cach1xX I unfortunately haven’t gotten around to opening a new shop yet because of my job keeping me busy, but I’ll definitely let you know which one I choose when I get back into it!
@@ctelucas ok thanks no problem
WooooW, I really really loved it and shocked, that's a great video shimmy, thank u so much
My pleasure 😊was really surprised
Thanks for the Tip. Hopefully in the next wash video, you would try Spreadshirt and Zazzle.
We’ll see. Maybe il do a much larger one but I only wanted to do the main companies
Thanks so much for taking the time and effort to make these videos!
My pleasure!
Thanks for the informative review of the different shirts quality. It helps to choose a good print on demand company.
you're welcome!
Thank you so much for this video, It definitely saved me time and now I know that I am going with Printful and Amazon for my You Tube Merch. Well done. Lot's of love from the American Hillbilly and the Hillbilly Nation.
woohoo, so glad I could help! Thanks so much
You should test washing them inside out because most care institutions will advise that so the print doesn’t get beat up as bad.
I do that, but I wanted to give them a proper test, and not everyone knows to wash them inside out
Printful and Printify has multiple printers to choose from, so what printers did you actually use?
I now use printify. I mainly sell a Gildan 64000 with swiftPOD
Some people might reconsider getting into POD completely after this.
I know right!!! I was so shocked
I always wash all my printed shirts inside out, as well as dry them inside out. Not sure if it makes a difference, but I have shirts that have lasted years and years.
I agree with this. I want to say some brands even suggest that they be washed inside out.
that definitely does make a difference but I don't think many people know to do that so i wanted to make it a fair test
@@shimmymorris1 That makes sense. Probably the average person just dumps everything in. It was a great video, and definitely a bit shocking with some of the results! Thanks again!
@@shimmymorris1 Maybe do a long double wash with 1 in 1 out of top ones that were good on first test to see?
@@AnthonyVickersSoulJahTYah i could but I don't think washing inside out would be a fair test as a lot of people don't do that and a company can't rely on the customer to do that
Appreciate this video Shimmy, mainly because I was using Printful & Printify :)
nice!! glad you have a decent quality product
Which company did you use on printify?
Thanks for this helpful video! A friend of mine bought a T-shirt from Redbubble and the paint came off after just one hand wash. The printing is also fuzzy and not sharp.
i've had that happen a few times now
Wow! your videos are absolutely super helpful, thanks a million times.
thanks so much! I really appreciate that
Very helpful! as I have been looking into quality between such companies....thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks, helpful! :)
You're welcome!
UK London fan here hoping to launch my designs in Nov officially! ..Hi Shimmy could you do a quick vid follow up comparison costing of those same Tees you just washed i know you repeated the two that cost more but a cost profit markup would help us in our decisions too. great job u do bro . watching many of your back story vids awesome insight. Best wishes.
thanks!! Did you watch part 1, I went into a lot more detail into those things. Glad you're liking the videos!
@@shimmymorris1 AHH thx bro will do *
Thank you - has prompted me to research the print companies I use further.
Nice! Good luck
I always washed printed shirts inside out and on delicate as instructed. Do they not have this in the washing instructions?
nope, they definitely don't
Been waiting for this. thank you so much shimmy.
you're welcome! Hope you like it
Actually I meant to say, I ordered a few T-shirts for myself, my washing machine has a 30 minute eco cycle that I use all the time (except for linens and towels and unmentionables), and the white letters on black shirt started cracking after the 2nd wash! I was very disappointed. I’m going to look into other options now. And watch your videos 🥰
Thanks for all your help 👍🤗
what company did you use?
you're welcome! sorry that happened!
Which company did you use?
what company did u use?
I'm sure they'll be the usual nonsense responses from the companies saying it's a one off or you've washed it wrong. Truth be told this is literally bottom of the barrel printing. I have t-shirts that have lasted me between 5 - 15 years and still have a design on, i have some heatpress, some screen printed and there all absolutely fine. If this happens on the 1st or 2nd wash then it's all over sadly. Shoddy cheap printing from multi million pound companies is pretty sad, they could fix this with just buying better ink.
yes 100%
Thanks loads for this, I was just about to send for a pile of T-shirts from different places to see exactly all this!
amazing!! so happy it helped
brilliant....very important...post purchasing experience and 'real' quality
Thanks so much!!
I think you should do another test where each company prints on the same style/brand garment. That way the only variables you have are the different print methods, and companies. Then you will have a true test based on the print alone. Also you will get to see if any company has improved on their prints since your last test.
yes, I do want to do another test at some point in the future.
Out of topic question, which brand hoodie are you wearing ?😆😁
do you have a link to the pod for motif
are you looking for this link? www.moteefe.com
Great video . . . thanks❗
would love to see an update to see if print quality has improved/changed
yes for sure! it's coming soon
Aren't we suppose to wash them after turning them inside out?
yes, that is the ideal way to wash but a lot of people don't do that which is why i tested both ways
Shocking!! Fantastic video, thanks 🙂🙂🙂
Glad you enjoyed it!
Redbubble used to be quite good. Something changed. Last t-shirt I bought couldn't handle one single wash before deteriorating. Haven't touched them since.
Sorry, what's the name of the site? 'Moteev?' Can't seem to find it anywhere.
its moteefe
it would be helpful to see a spreadsheet with this info combined with the print quality before wash video,
Yes! I’m going to make an updated version of this video. Il include that
@@shimmymorris1 that would be awesome! I will watch for it.
I have my own equipment and always did my wash tests by breaking ALL the rules and and drying on HIGH heat instead of delicate or low.
That’s really good! That’s how you ensure the best quality
I am about to watch this video so apologies if this is answered, but is a high heat wash generally better for DTG prints? Won’t some garments shrink?
GREAT VIDEO!!! New subscriber from Australia 👋👋👋👋 I will usually buy a few sizes up to allow for any shrinkage as everything goes in the dryer. I want to wear my products as well and I want my customers to be happy with what they ordered as do I.
woohoo thanks for subbing! that's a smart idea... I guess if it doesn't shrink it's great quality but the plan has backfired
I designed a shirt for my husband and had it printed with printful. I'm a little disappointed because it's been a year the the print is unfortunately starting to fall apart. Meanwhile I have a concert shirt I bought about 15 years ago and still wear regularly that is in better shape. Can't help but wonder if print quality in general is just worse now or if I got unlucky.
that's shocking from printful! You should complain to them, hopefully they give you your money back or reprint it for free.
@@shimmymorris1is there a difference between POD quality printing and Bulk printing quality?
@@summerisherechannel8242 I think so. I came across RealThread and they only do orders based on bulk, but they have made shirts for well-known brands and I believe they make sure that there is quality to what they make.
You have outdone yourself mate, we’ll done 🙌🏼
thank you so much!
Why wash without turning inside out? Faster results?
fairer results. everyone washes differently. I wanted to cover all the basis
Nice video. I see many already covered the inside out washing, but how many people actually do that so good real world test. I do think most POD places say not to use fabric softener on their products. Again what would people do in the real world?
yes exactly. no one does that, so it was silly for me to do that as it wouldn't have been an accurate test.
You should make a video like this but with the other t shirt video and do a remastered version to see if they listened to the complaints
oooo great idea
i wonder what would happen when you throw them in the dryer straight out of the packaging, prior to washing any new teeshirts. Putting them in the dryer "cures" the screenprints, i was told this by friends in that business previously.
that's interesting... Never heard of that
That’s the whole point, Print on Demand is not typically possible with screen printing, it’s Direct to Garment Printing, so the quality differs
With Printful should I choose: dtg printing or embroidery?
it depends on the style you're going for. For normal print on demand go for DTG. For luxury appeal go for embroidery... i have a video coming out about embroidery soon
Can someone give me the link to that cheap print on demand.. motif? I'm having trouble finding it..
What about Spreadshop?
They're on the list
Yay for Printful!
Wooop wooop
Super useful- thank you for doing this
Glad it was helpful!
Are you washing in cold or hot water?
i test a mix, but mainly cold
This is helpful thanks. I’d be curious about a deeper dive investigating why there’s such a difference. Is it the printing method or the ink used? There’s a clear difference in these results so the companies are clearly making different choices. An Inkthreadable sweatshirt I ordered was really bad after a couple of washes, which made us sad as their eco credentials were so good otherwise. Are the eco inks not sticking as well? But having clothes which last has to be seen as an important eco factor surely?
I'm not sure what they're all doing differently. It could be minor things but without visiting the factories and watching the process I wouldn't know. I have found the eco products are any worse, it's more a company issue
So sir I was thinking to start tshirt designing, which platform you must suggest, my frined suggested teespring, or other suggested redbubble. I would like your opinion as for a beginner.
i would suggest neither... Try go for etsy and printful, or etsy and gelato...
@@shimmymorris1 Thank-you for suggestion, but the issue is I am not into opening store but am looking for a platform like redbubble or spring or zazzle but as you told about the quality, although I haven't started selling yet, I care for customers. And the issue with printful is I cannot sell directly but have to link an online store, any other site you will recommend. I am a complete beginner.
@@hamnakhan769 i'm still looking for a company that is decent that has a built in marketplace. i have a video coming out soon. I'll be testing a whole bunch
@@shimmymorris1 I will be waiting for it!! Thanks alot.
Thanks for this man!!
you're welcome!
An additional question I have is, "Why is the pattern in ware on the design so distinct?" It seems as though there is more deterioration in the test pattern towards the lower section of each shirt. While there is less deterioration in the upper areas, any idea as to why?
i put a particularly difficult design on the shirt to see if the companies could handle it. The design has different levels of opacity which is a hard thing to print, but some companies can do it successfully and that's what I wanted to find out
Where the design is lighter in opacity there's less ink used in the printing, so because these companies have done it badly it's the first area to wear off.
Amazing Thing you are doing Sir
So nice of you
n you let me know where the Motif company is based? I'd like to give them a try.
They're base in the UK
Printful definitely does crack. Had a tee shirt for almost a year, only worn it 10-15 times. Cracking is definitely noticable
hmm, my longest standing t-shirt from them is a few years old now and it's still intact
This is awesome and helpful, thank you 😊
thanks so much! glad you liked it
I’m just starting out and designed a shirt to put on Redbubble. I then bought the Essential t-shirt to test the quality. Did not notice shrinkage, but after the second wash the print looked exactly like your Redbubble test. My design was cracking and peeling off! Not a happy camper, so now I’m on the lookout for a better POD company. I care about my customers and just as I am frustrated about the quality, I know they would be too.
Yes I wish these big companiesi cared about the customers as much as we do and only made quality products especially as they are charging such premium prices for their items!
@@shimmymorris1 Especially since I paid $28 which included shipping and taxes…for a tshirt that basically lasted ONE wash
@@staceyplummer2864 ye it's bonkers!!
Do you think that if I upload rapper designs to spring, they will let me upload those designs and sell them?
Rapper? As in if they’re infringing one someone then no. I don’t think you should
@@shimmymorris1 I have a page on Instagram with a lot of followers about rap and I thought I could sell shirts there too, so I can not design rapper designs?
@@arielsofa7641 Each rapper singer (or whatever person) does have rights over their brand, their artistic production and even over their name and public image (ie, even a photo of their face, even if taken by you!). If you would get a special (written and signed) deal/contract with them, giving you rights to earn money using their image, products image, name or personal image, and specifying details like where can you publish, how many copies, etc.... then yep. But it is not the case, it seems. And for any artist/company is super easy to put down any product using their logo/artist photo/brand/name, etc. I mean, is forbidden even if you wouldn't monetize it in any way. It's just that for fans/fan pages when there's no income, most often the brands and companies don't take action, but once one starts selling t-shirts or other merchandise using _anything_ of them, that gets put down. Often is not even by them, but a company who own their image rights or etc.
What about Printify? I heard that the quality of their print provider Monster Digital is excellent.
Monster digital is excellent. I've had t-shirts from them for years and years
@@shimmymorris1 So would you say Printful and Printify (with Monster Digital) are more or less the same quality?
@@toptennismerch I think monster has been even better than printful tbh
@@shimmymorris1 Perhaps we could limit ourselves to selling stickers on RB. What about mugs? I've had mugs where the printing peels off after a few weeks. Could you do a test comparing mug print quality between POD companies? I guess that's harder than a t-shirt test.
@@toptennismerch for sure! that's a great idea. I guess I could run them under hot water for a while and see how they do...
Thank you!💖
You’re welcome 😊
Woow thank you 👍🤗
You're welcome 😊
Hi Shimmy hope you are well and thanks for the videos ! In your experience do bonfire night t shirts sell ? Was thinking of maybe doing one ...
potentially, I haven't sold any, It's a very small day but I would always recommend putting one up as you just never know
The Redbubble results don't surprise me, at all. I've gotten 1 or 2 shirts from there... all cracked immediately.
yup! shocking quality
Sad times, came for the second followup for printify and you did not do them.
Printify doesn't work the same, it works with many companies... so It wouldn't make sense as you can pick which fulfilment company you want to go with... there's tons to choose from
(5:00) - Is that eggnog you're putting in the washing machine?
Haha no no
This video helped a lot
thank you so much
Great video Shimmy, as usual. On another topic...for a new etsy seller starting a POD business, can you suggest a simple cost effective (or free) way to keep track of the books/finances? Currently using Printful but about to branch out to other suppliers too. Thanks so much.
Thanks!!! Honestly if you want a free way I would say use google sheets. I keep track of so much stuff with that
Any links to the best ones
There are some links in the description
This video was badly needed. I want to try interest print too as they are one of the only ones with all over long sleeve collared shirts, and I can't find even a picture of one of their shirts on the web lol
you might have to get a sample, it's super annoying when you can't find this sort of stuff
So how many years did it take to make this video, the upmost important thing for most people. Seeing as most of these print on demand shirts start flaking and become trash within a couple washes. This should have been the first video you made about print on demand t shirt quality
how many years? Yes, it should have been but I wasn't able to make this video then, which is why it had to come a bit later.
@@shimmymorris1 I appreciate it man! If we wanted it we should have asked sooner
Also have to look at the vibrancy of colors, some were lighter, some you could see actual gradient
yup!
I can't imagine started out on, for example, Etsy, have an amazing selling shirt right from the start, and WHAM !!!! you have customers asking for refunds because the amazing shirt that you were excited to sell hundreds of in your first few days, are a disaster after your customers washed the shirt. And after one time. Insane !
yes it's insane! that's why I like doing these tests so hopefully this doesn't happen.
@@shimmymorris1 Your videos are a valuable asset. I ordered a sample shirt using "words" on a shirt. The long of the short, unless it is "words" on a white shirt, people need to order a sample. I printed letters, a good size, of different colors and most had a cracked look, and the colors are off. Not true to color. Silk Screening has been and still is KING when it comes to printing on tshirts.
Thanks for the videos! I loved both parts. I wish you had included Spreadshop in these videos as it's one of the companies that can get a RUclips merch shelf along with Teespring. Would it be possible to do quality + wash tests for a Spreadshop t-shirt?
Also, you showed a t-shirt with a DTF (Direct-To-Film) print which is much different from DTG (Direct-To-Garment) which involves printing ink directly onto the shirt. Would it be possible for you to review a DTG printed t-shirt as well?
Either way, thanks so much for these videos. I was thinking about Teespring but I'll for sure avoid them thanks to your videos. Spreadshop looks to be my only option as someone who wants a YT merch shelf.
yes good idea, I'll add it to my list of videos to make
Thanks for this. It was helpful
glad you liked it
The washing/drying labels will be sewn into the seams of these blank T-shirts before any printing. The T-shirts manufacturer may not know what their buyer (the POD co) is using to print. I would write on my POD page that I would advise buyers to wash on 30° and to not tumble dry, just to be on the safe side. I’d imagine these POD companies test this out themselves, but see the peeling off designs here for example, it looks like they don’t.
ye they should warn people to wash inside out and at 30 for sure!
I started with Printful and was using them a lot, literally all the T-shirts that ARE NOT ALL OVER PRINT crack after drying. they hold up perfectly after every wash, but when you dry them hey fall apart. The all over T shirts r the best n Printful. but when it comes to hoodies and t shirts with normal print, the print never last.
How are you drying them? I stopped putting any of them in the dryer and now let them hang dry
So as a result of your tests, what would you recommend one should use as the best POD company to work with. I am shocked to see what happened to the Redbubble shirts and I have put in so much effort to make it work. I wouldn't want to expose my customer to such bad quality. Would washing the Tees cold make a difference?
The 3 best were Amazon, Moteefe and Printful. I was shocked by Redbubble too
If you are trying to create your own brand, I would probably go with Printful, as they alow custom branding for the shirt tags and packaging.
In fairness, the t-shirts were all washed the wrong way because if they were all turned inside out the print is protected, won't rub against the other t-shirts prints, and the arm pit and collar area needs to make contact with the washing detergent most to remove sweat marks. I think this test should be retaken.
I did what most people would do and that’s wash with the design on the outside. Not everyone knows to wash inside out so didn’t think that would be fair test
@@shimmymorris1 so it was more a test to see which brand has poor print quality over the others. Also keep in mind not everyone has a dryer. Perhaps mother nature could have given a different result.
On a side note, I am amazed at the number of people who say "anyways" (such as in this video). I don't know if it's spreading from person to person around the world, or I just hear it more because I'm watching and reading so much online content compared to 5-10 years ago. I just don't like that ssss on the end, LOL. Anyway, back to the scheduled program. 😂
hahaha I do say that a lot!!
Errm shouldn't you have turned them inside out first?
Please include markers for sections of your videos
What about teelLaunch
never tried it
Printful got good pricing? Bwahahah 😂
they used to, it's a shame that everyone is charging so much now
What about Inkthreadable?
it didn't make it through to the first test, so it wouldn't be in this one
I was going to sell t-shirts and jumpers from Pritfull. I bought one hoodie for myself as a sample after one wash the picture was broken, cracked and faded so as it stands I have confidence in selling anything from them now! Has anyone else had a similar experience? Also does anyone know a company that you do have full faith in selling
it's really hard to find! i'm trying to find a perfect company
Plz more of this
awesome
Doesn't Printful use various printing companies, so results could vary?
they have various printing facilities but I believe they're owned by printful
@@shimmymorris1 I think they are thinking of printify. Printful does own it's own printers.
@@barbarabaker1457 yes that could be it
Which best ?
One that wasn't featured! I'm really liking Awkward Styles at the moment
@@shimmymorris1 I’m deaf can’t hear you speak video .I want ask which best very good print quality and wash no crack? tell me get know about let I order t shirt which company