Is Multiversus Beyond Saving?!
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- Опубликовано: 11 июн 2024
- Multiversus should not be a game i’m on my channel to complain about, I know it’s kind of beating a dead horse at this point with what the rampant gaming outrage channels pitchforking over the game’s diabolical monetization and while that’s a problem i’ll get into. it’s not really my focus with this video! Instead I'm Here to discuss the numerous failures that lead from Beta To launch and how Multiversus should not have launched in this state. I hope we can #SaveMultiversus with this video...
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This situation feels like a greedy farmer who got his hands on a potentially lucrative cow. And instead of feeding it properly and milking it slowly and periodically, our farmer(WB execs) is trying to milk this cow dry before it has even had a chance to fully develop. If this doesn't change the game will essentially die
that is very long winded way of saying the game is being milked
Good analogy
It is my personal opinion that moving to unreal 5 was unnecessary and pretty much ruined the game on so many levels i wish they just kept updating the beta instead
How is keeping the game modern unnecessary? They game wouldn't have the new net code option if it was on a old engine.
If I remember correctly people have said that you can directly port unreal 4 projects to unreal 5, so the argument that "Changing the engine was the cause for all the missing features from the beta" is invalid. I personally think those were all executive decisions from WB. Porting the game to unreal 5 was a good decision, but it's likely WB and PFG used the change as a scapegoat for the removed features.
@@surrealmeme8344 no they said they had to rebuild the the game I really doubt WB told them to get rid knock out counter and battle damge.
@@hawkeyemihawkgettingmoneylordbut i think they had some kind of influence in the release date
@@surrealmeme8344 definitely not invalid. yes, you can import assets/projects from ue4 to ue5 but that doesn’t mean it’s going to work off the bat. some of those assets need to be redone or changed altogether so its supported by the new engine, hence why some people feel that game feels different. a bunch of the missing items were found in the game files anyway, so its there, its just being optimized.
they need to cut the price of characters in half for me to ever consider comming back
hard agree
People need to realize multiverse isn’t going to be the next big game. Instead it’s going to have its own small player base like Brawlhalla.
This. I'd accept this more than anything that's going off right now 😭
But it should be a big game. Atleast a lot of people wanted it
Or it fanbase will grow later like with Among us (and hopefully don't die out like with Among us)
@@stivanotaliho then people need to stop playing fortnite,minecraft, and other big games and start playing new multiplayer games
@@jaggiiii exactly if multiverse have 100k players thats all i care about
As it turns out WB is re-investing into the animation department so hopefully this means they're actually starting to listen to what fans WANT. I really hope they can turn this game around because it has SO SO much potential energy ;-;
I HOPE SO TOO!!! please let this one have a strong comeback with less MTX nonsense
I don’t understand how you have a basically unlimited possibility of a roster and you make a game that discourages you to get the fun of the roster. This game could have ben 10, Elmo, Freedy Kruger, Audrey tombs, static shock, samurai Jack, DAMN WICK AND BOOMSTICK FROM DEATH BATTLE IF THEY TRULY WANTED TO, osmosis jones and thrax, Austin powers, Johnny bravo, Kevin 11, dio maybe, Gandalf, Sauron, if they wanted to Mike Tyson from that adult swim show, Jackie Chan, scorpion or any mortal kombat character. (In particular Johnny cage so we can say hey this character just got nut punched) and that’s just from the top of my head there’s probably more I’m not thinking of I want it to succeed
That's not what people want. People want the monetization to be massively changed
Why is no one realizing that local co op is missing
The game will die once they do. It’s already dead.
I touched on that a bit but i'll expand upon it in part two!
I must ask are you playing on Console? Cause Local Co-op exists on PC just to let you know.
@@Android-Twenty-One I think they mean locally getting into a party for 2v2s, not just the versus mode sadly :(
@@bucketman3095 Oh that makes more sense
Firstly, losing your stuff would immediately be enough to make me say "f this game" too. Thankfully I think I only lost Finn as an unlock but all my skins were safe. Why Finn was lost for so many people is beyond me.
Secondly, I love MVS, I agree with PFG's decision to slow the game down but I also agree immensely with this video.
I think you're the first person to bring up the Rested Bonus, and we need to advocate to bring it back. Modern events like grinding out 75 character levels over 3 days for a paltry 100 gleamium was fucking disgusting. Or the even more recent Top Dog Challenge that gave you a shitty badge for just having the most playtime. I shouldn't have to log in every day to get the most out of the battle pass.
After reading Jason Schreier's exposé on S-Squad: "hurt" the Justice League I'm convinced WB put their grubby fingers all over this game and I get sad on behalf of Tony. I doubt he wanted this mobile game bullshit in this game, and I think PFG has been fighting with their publishing arm to get things like BP XP per match back. Yet, Tony being the figurehead, he's taking all the heat.
As a diehard fan, I love this game's combat way more than Smash, I feel like this game is going to die and I don't have a lot of faith that it'll make it to its 2nd year of development.
Unfair progression, challenges that require specific characters or cosmetics regardless if you own them or not, predatory pricing like the lowest tier bundle only giving 450 gleamium when the cheapest skin is 500, no local queuing, all characters locked for local play, being online only, no silly queue the list literally goes on.
I want to love this game again, I want to defend Tony but we need a massive tidal wave of criticism and decreasing player counts to pull whatever WB executive's head out of their ass to show them Tony's original vision from the beta was more fair and profitable. I was more than happy to buy the founder's pack at beta because I felt like my time was respected, I was earning new fighters at a decent rate and gold was a fair currency that could be spent for perks, characters, icons, or banners and was rewarded at a solid rate.
I want to play more, but after I finish my dailies I log off as a mini sign of protest. Subtracting one more player of their concurrent player count after 20 minutes of play.
Do I think we can save Multiverses? Probably not but I hope we can anyway.
Thank you for a level headed response. My vid is definitely a bit inflammatory, but it's out of love! I personally talked to some devs and esport folk on MVS. This game means a lot to me I also enjoy it more than current ultimate (when it works) but I really do not want it to go out like this! The protest ur doing is pretty solid, log in quick hop off quick and once changes are made we get back to playing!
They can’t even fix the freakin challenges not working at times and don’t even get me started on missing beta items!
The betas ui was even more appealing 🤦♂️
FR...
as someone that played the beta, i can't stand playing now and this perfectly explains why :D you did what multi couldn't and put the W in WB
bruh why are you on your vods channel
I WAS BOUTA SAY LMAO
multiversus is a prime example of why company executives shouldn't be allowed to put their hands in games they don't understand or care about
Tbh, we all know the characters people want are Mortal Kombat, Cartoon Network, and DC characters after those no one really cares any other characters. The amount of people i know who want Ben 10 and Samurai Jack in the game is crazy. I think they underestimate the massive catalog of CN characters they should be adding, hell ive been pining for Mordecai and Rigby. They need to be careful adding too many Looney Tune and Hanna-Barbara characters because although they're iconic they really aren't that popular amongst the age of the audience that plays the game.
THISSS! Something I'm bringing up soon! The roster needs help!
EXACTLY like I want Ben 10, samurai jack and Dexter not a fucking banana with a spear
@Darkness-hy4um I know right, adventure already had Finn and Jake. We didn't need Banana Guard, but of they wanted to add another one why not someone cool or popular like Marcelene or Ice King
While I def wanna see some popular CN reps, I feel like that’s all people are gonna start asking for when the devs start adding them. And if we get too many too fast, then it’s gonna the anime sword fighter problem from Smash all over again. With people saying “oh they’re just adding all these Cartoon Network characters! Where’s my Walter White or Neo?”
And I feel not enough people bring this into consideration when they beg for those CN reps.
Remember, this is not Cartoon Network Punch Time Explosion 2. As much as I would’ve killed for that back in the day.
I love these characters and I don't even know what Ben 10 is. Like what even is that. I guess these are kid characters. Maybe they market towards my generation because we're the 'whales' that actually pay to keep f2p games afloat.
Characters should just be free, like it is a game with a massive skin model, idk why they need to charge for characters too. Character Unlock tickets should be refunded and turned into costume unlock tickets and bam a lot of the monetization issues are fixed, it still be praying on people but it be a lot more manageable. I'd prefer if they just gave up on being an F2P game and released this as a 60 dollar game and released new versions or season passes of DLCs or whatever but ya know.
I'm actually all for free to play fighting games, it's just that no AAA dev has done the model correctly sadly. The only dev to handle F2P fighting games well is the Killer Instinct team back in 2013 (who kicked off the season pass model for fighting games btw) They released the game for free with a rotation of 2 fighters, and the purchase for all 8 during season 1 was 10-20$ at the time. They did subsequent season up until season 3 which costed a total of 30$ for the lowest tier. It's a amazing model most modern FG devs have taken and corrupted imo. I really would not be ok with spending 60$ on a game of this quality with all of it's issues. (i'm barely ok with spending 60 on most modern FGs ngl XD). I love F2P because the buy in is low which means more people get to play fighting games which I love! I just need devs to look at the KI model again and attempt it, while giving players other things to purchase like cosmetics (costumes/music etc) to boost purchases. It would be a perfect middle ground imo
This video is a gem.
And it sends a good message to the mvs diehard fans that just because we’re making a point to voice our disdain doesn’t mean we want the game to fail / personally attack people who still believe in the game.
W vid
Thank you! means a ton
@PakOnMars nah if it was a mvs gem the video would be at 50% speed lol
the progression system is the exact same as Payday 3 at launch, no xp for just playing missions or play well, you were forced to complete achievements with increasingly demanding tasks and/or weapons and playstiles. Even with that example of dumb progression no one liked, they decided to do the same.
i give it a year until the multiversus team posts one of those "We have made the difficult decision to shut down servers for the game." posts on twitter.
funny how they just posted some fixes on there thread
OH will cover the twitter posting...
"Fixes"
its absolute trash that multiversus a live service beta that ended up shutting down for a year and re-releasing even worse won fighting game of the year over fully fledged completed titles like king of fighters xv and DnF duel which is one of the most stunning looking fighting game out their.
KOF XV is still my goat! if you ever wanna run sets hmu!
This game won only off of fan familiarity with the characters and nostalgia
This is why I have left this for 5 days now
The idiots had a year and still can't do right, the game is starting to die again.
let's be as fair as we can to the devs, it's a mix of player first games and WB meddling!
I have faith in the devs
I actually understand no ranked at launch. Balancing issues, Iron giant legit removed from the game, and a total refresh of how the game even feels. And maybe im the odd one, but I actually think the pace actually benefits 2v2, and wish 1v1 was specifically faster. Otherwise the game needs work quick.
I see that angle and I read there thoughts on balance changes before ranked, which is kind of fair... HOWEVER I must emphasize again if the game is in that state of unbalanced and you have access to pro players/ QA testers to find said issues with say iron giants infinite. Then maybe this game should've been delayed until fall like I stated in the video if that makes sense
the biggest problem this game is facing is the connection issues
theres no reason why i should load up 7 2v2s in a row and disconnect in each one as the match starts up
its a joke and it NEEDS to be their #1 on "things to fix"
not being able to actually play the game is actually ridiculous, every other problem comes after
whats even more funny is that certain lvls in the rift wont be available on later rift chapters which locks the boss kill count to 15 once chapter 5 becomes available till july 10 and even if all the lvls were availble, would only get 25 boss kills total, cant even finish the whole agent smith rift challenge which requires 30 to finish to get the other skin variant of agent smith smh
Yeah ngl I gave up on the rifts i'll simply have to use tickets or buy him with fighter currency because the game is so grindy...
hatred and banning of all modding.
garbage community management and monetization.
inconsistent gameplay and bad balancing issues.
roster not being added as quickly and consistently as it should be.
Promised story-mode ending up being incredibly underwhelming.
and a general industry wide fatigue of Battle Passes.
the game has a ton of potential but also some really *really* big problems that need to be adjusted at the fundamental level.
fix it and better itself and we'll all come back.
As someone that bought the 100$ founders pack, put hundreds of hours into the beta and has yet to miss a day logging into the current day Multiversus...
You have shown me that the game is more predatory than I thought. All of my goodies from beta being transferred over has probably blinded my ability to see what was happening.
Very good video! I'll still play Multiversus a ton but it'll def be with a different PoV now lol
Trust me I get it! It's a game that I have very mixed feelings on and even I'm still doom booting up hoping the games problems will be solved...
Im sure most of monetization issues this game has is WB fault. Its not surprise they want everygame to have some sort of live service farm like Gotham Knights or Suicide Squad
Yep my hunch too!
I have been saying since it shut down that no matter how well made it comes back it will not be good.
Smash bros is just so polished and so beloved that no clone game can ever come close to how much fun smash is
To me it's more than a clone vs smash situation and more of a please just make a competent fighting game situation XD
Rivals of Aether Is a pretty good smash inspired game : D
I'm an avid rivals of aether player/custom fighter enjoyer. Been playing that game since it's steam early access debut it's a really fun time, looking forward to rivals 2!
Nick all star brawl right now in thanos voice "perhaps i treated you too harshly"
Naw that game is kinda ass
@BC21beats I like nasb1 personally it's a lot more fluid and fun than multiversus for me
@@YungFalconGG idk just didn't do it for me I returned it on steam after trying it
Subbed, great video, used to play the game, it's changed way to much for me, miss the beta version. 😔
I REALLY hope the more predatory aspects of the game is all on WB. I want to trust the devs and pray this game at the very least weeds out its worst kinks, but man it’s hard to stay positive with literally everything stacked against Multiversus.
On a lighter note, cool seeing another Harley main.
HI!!!! I LOVE HARLEY!!! (also please fix mtx) Gl with matches! here's hoping the game will live :D
“Me and my partner”. Alright bro you don’t gotta rub it in that I’m single
XD I'm sorry goat
Such a good video man, I knew for certain I had a wayyy bigger chunk of the cast in the beta than I do now and unlocking characters beforehand was way easier I just didn't quite remember if that was true. I am having a decent amount of fun with the full release but if they don't improve upon things soon and add FUN characters at a decently fast rate I think it's just going to die again unfortunately.
thanks for the kind words :D, I agree btw! I want the game to do well but changes need to come fast and the devs only have so much time. I truly feel bad for them
Hey I’m the guy who asked for your yt on reddit, watched it and thought it was a banger video. Now a day later I got it in my recommended, good job man.
Thanks for pulling up! means a lot :D
>corporate higher ups want you to make a good game
>corporate higher ups force you to make your game bad
>game doesn't make as much money because your game is bad
>get fired because your game is bad
Soon I'll be diving deep into the WB issues as a way to wrap up the saga as I've been observing them for a very very long time
I have actually no idea how multiversus EVER beat Sifu
It's all bidding
To be fair, Sifu shouldn't have been nonimated since it's not a fighting game.
Sifu didn't deserve to win either
Fun Fact: You can estimate the relative date a MultiVersus' video was made by the placement shown in the Battle Pass!
Yep, it was that time locked until recently, when they finally started letting you get Battle Pass XP from regular matches.
Ngl I just feel embarrassed whenever I play this game 😂
Why tho
@@badr.4558 the game just is unpolished and combos/movement don't feel fun or fulfilling. I cant see myself taking this serious, especially from a competitive stand point, and I don't even play any fighting games competitively.
Okay then why do you need to take this game seriously if you don't take any other fighting games seriously? Lol, great logic
@suchmouse I can see the competitive merit in something without having to play competitively myself. Go enjoy the game buddy don't worry about what some random on the internet thinks.
@DoctorMario606 You said you don't see yourself taking it competitively, nothing about whether it's a competitive game or not. Not to mention it was at evo and won game of the year lol. Yeah don't worry, I'm not gonna take someone's option too seriously when they have a mario hat as their profile picture
Thank you for talking about the fighter currency grind, it's weird how few people are mentioning it, especially since new players only have like 2 characters to start with. The only reason people aren't complaining about Perk Currency is because beta players are sitting on hundreds of thousands of it, which for new players is a big fat 0. The currency grind is awful.
P.S. Mojo Jojo's laser has only ever targeted me in my matches and costs me the match without fail it's absolute horseshit.
We need to queue without hazards please! Like I shouldn't have to wait until ranked that should just be a mode...
I hate how over powered shaggy is so a new player can button mash me for like 70% in two hits
just got a 7gb update on xbox im praying that does something....I honestly want to love this game.
Can the game be saved but need different management
Great video man
Very good video and this needed to be said. I lost alot of cosmetics and characters from beta too, and sendt in a ticked only to get the answer from PFG that i had gotten all my skins and characters from beta when i know i lost many skinns, kinda shitty thing to do for someone who bought founders pack and played the beta for 1k hours and wanted them to succeed.
Friends and I were excited for the game again it was rough in beta but we had hope, and it seemed like it was gonna be good until on day 3 when one of us couldn’t even join a custom match and the rest of us would be kicked back to lobby after halfway through
And the fact that you don’t get level ups or anything from custom fights (even though you don’t get access to anything but your current characters) sucked a lot, none of us wanted to play online we have enough to just play together with multiple small groups but we all uninstalled once we noticed how egregious the monetization is
PLUS PLUS we all chose characters during the beta before quite a few were even added yet and you don’t get a reset for your currency or characters and we all only had the exact same characters from years ago with no way of getting any new fighters
we're seeing FEH PTSD in real time
good vdo
The pulls I made for Ike...
Probably a hot take but i think the reason every Smash clone either dies in the water or just barely edges the relevance of any fighting game is because it just makes ppl appreciate smash more for as same as it may be, they set the standard so why not just suffer with the grandfather of the genre.
I really did give this game a chance but it truly is just beyond broken.
The fact that they keep on adding so many characters in one franchise is insane, they should be focusing on adding like 2 to 3 characters from different franchises. Ben 10 and Kevin and/or gwen, mordecai and rigby, gumball and darwin, etc. They couldve added some main characters everyone wants. No, instead lets add another dc character 😂
Multiversus shouldnt have even won that award in its previous state.
Game devs: i know we can make good smash like game based of WB and CN characters we all love
Business man in suit: Yes but maybe if we add this and that :)
Edit: they stoled your $ and deleted your skin that's Evil very evil the man in business suit are such savages dont worry there's room in hell for those who do that type of tactics
Something I really don't like about full release multiverses is how bad the perk system feels, because at the very least when you picked perks in the last one the only thing that affected your character personally was their personal perk, it felt like there was so many team builds and fighting styles that you could have had in the open beta when they had three different projectile perks you could equip on a character like Gizmo and that be his entire fighting style is just having to deal with projectile base, but now it forces every player to do the exact same or at the very least stuck within this rigid framework where obviously there is customization but nowadays you don't get any video game released without customization so can we really say that they improved upon the perk system? Especially with the individual character leveling, I had played the open beta so like I have all of the extra currency and had enough prestige points to get that rare Garnet emo as soon as I saw that I could because she's one of my mains, but losing Kryptonian skin sucks because I would run that alongside snowball and shock and garnets signature where if you or your ally shocked an enemy it would build a level of garnet's personal buff and it was a really fun way to play Garnet because just that little extra bit of defense team wide made garnet stay in long enough to last about as long as a tank, My team and I as long as we played well or especially when I was playing with my friends and we had a plan, we would always have opponents getting shot and it was a good counter to some of the more mobile ones, and having snowball on there just helped even more considering she's a bruiser character, so when My friend would play Superman, my perks that I had equipped alone made Superman more of a threat than what he had already been in the beta and so the enemies would either focus on him to either deal with him or get away from him and they would just ignore me it was awesome
Thanks for the feedback on the game! I'm in the same boat I truly miss the og perk system and all the fun combos/situations that came with it!
@@YungFalconGG something I had a ball with was equipping both off the jump and fall speed perks and the normal one to Tom and Jerry because of how fast they already moved, I was super surprised by the amount of mobility I had given myself and it let me place Jerry and use my tennis ball shot a lot easier so I started relying on that perk a lot more and that became a really fun build to use
As of the recent patch, i got disconnected four times more than i joined matches, i immediately uninstalled the game again.
Just had a session to grab more footage and oml the amount of duo desyncs drove me mad, lead to both easy wins and annoying losses
My fighters still didn't transfer over from the beta, and for that alone, screw this game
our money just went into UE5 and I can barely notice the upgrade lol...
It is completely stunning that the various quality of life features in the beta, even though some major things were still missing, are now COMPLETELY GONE from the "Full release" of the game. No local multiplayer in 2's?? Really?? No rest EXP? No nothing. It's really frustrating because otherwise I'm having a lot of fun with Multiversus but the longer the game goes without being feature complete the less interested I'm becoming due to little frustrations piling up over time.
I bought the mad love skin for harley quinn during the beta and now its just gone. Fuck this game.
It might be this point with these dumb decisions they’ve been making lately I really hope they turn this around because this us A shame
They said battlepass characters will be able in the shop after the season is over. (if i remember correctly)
Sifu is fucking amazing I can't believe it didn't win
One of my all time favorite games
This video is nothing but fax. Im dropping this game again because theres just no reason to play anymore. I lost half my stuff too and i bought the $100 edition in beta lmao the only thing i got is my gold name, its sum bullshit tbh
I was surprised to hear players weren't getting all the things they had back in the beta, since I personally had everything transfer over (or at least I didn't notice anything I was missing) And then it hit me) I was a Gold Supporter who dumped 100$ on the game, I was probably marked as high priority for account transfers.
Dang! I heard some 100$ tiers didn't get everything back sadly! I'll look into it further
Reindog... I'M GONNA GET YOU OUT OF THERE!!
Great video man, this 33:46 minutes of straight facts. This game has mad potential and if they correct the issues you mentionned, i think it could last long... Btw they should get my goat Ben 10 in this
PEEP THE NEW VIDEO I GOT BEN 10 MENTIONED!!!
They made the rifts challenges so unplayable I cant even retain more than 10 minutes of my attention on this game
Really great video, you covered the game's history up into the present and hit on everything that needed to be hit on. And yeah, the game has definitely been mismanaged - will be a miracle of this game can recover and keep it's high.
Truly hope the best for it! But it hurts knowing patch after patch is just fixing the game to get to a previously playable state
Ain’t no way half the playerbase got the founders pack it makes no sense, who is spending $100 on a game they’re not sure is gonna stick around
I didn't say half the playerbase but a good chunk of people got the 20-40$ founder pack because it was a easy way to unlock the roster as well as a good way to show support for the game. No one at the time knew it was going to be delisted T_T
@@YungFalconGG I’m just salty I want that gold name so bad lmao
XD nah I get ya! Sorry if I came off weird or rude all love fam! Thanks for watching
Well, you're right. I never played the beta so I downloaded the new version and played it for about a day , unlocked superman and found out he really wasn't for me so I play more to unlock a new character but after a few hours I saw that it was to grindey and gave up all together and never played the game ever since the launch.
Thanks for the input from a fresh new player! These were the exact concerns I had when it came to on-boarding new players, I truly sadly don't think the gameplay is strong enough to keep players hooked T_T
@YungFalconGG yeah your welcome, and thank you for your awesome video! I hope that this game gets better by time
Nailed it. Everything you said is 💯 .
Outfits shouldn't be $20
Saddest thing is if you play 7 matches at least 6 of them will have those outfits like uuugggghhh this Fcking people…
I had already done the grind in the beta so I had a ridiculous amount of perk currency at launch and almost all of the fighters unlocked so I have no use for fighter currency
Phenomenal video, commenting for the algorithm!!!
thank you goat! stay tuned for more
A lot of the stuff that didn't get carried over to the launch game (spectator mode, playing locked characters in labs, cosmetics not carrying over) has to do with the game using a new engine.
It isn't because they took those features out, it's just that it didn't get added back in
I understand that and have talked about it in depth in various streams and what not. But as a consumer it feels kind of shady/bad. Like no one asked for them or pushed for them to switch to UE5 if it was truly going to take this much extra legwork and it's mad unfair to us for the game to be launched in this state. Maybe WB forces the UE5 switch and in that case again that's unfair. But I really don't think it's fair for me as a consumer that the game has these many issues devs or not. Like again I don't envy the PFG team it's a sucky situation but gosh darn is it not annoying
They should just halve the prices of everything and give a 50% refund of at the very least gleamium to everyone, that'd at least make this system less predatory
This is a really good fix tbh...
Kind of glad I didn't play the beta having fun rn but it is very grindy. It is something tho that you can unlock everything from just playing. Even if it takes forever lol
Great vid bro the way WB ran this game into the ground really sucks bc I had a lot of hope for this game it’s all gone now forsure I was a defender of the beta but this is ridiculous and the game deserves to die now
Let's not go too far! I don't think any game deserves to die, that's people out of jobs and people taken away from making some awesome art/games! But I really hope they listen to the feedback and I hope I've channeled a constrictive place to dish out said feedback
even if it is a 'removed feature' i would gladly pay $60 for an 'unlock all current and future characters' button because i only play fighting games irl with friends and having the full roster would be great but seeing as that is not an option i am instead going to just not play the game at all
This should be the model for the game btw. There needs to be some season pass akin to killer instinct to make this game last
It's honestly a mystery that they didn't keep the game up like Fortnite or DBD and change the engine in the backstage then release it in a huge update (like you said.) DbD literally had a quick support team that would actually communicate when you reported a bug, the engine from what I've seen has been ironed out in the matter of weeks (In quick hotfixes/patches mind you) with a few issues but not as much as MVS. My main grudge is the huge amount of tiny problems they take "years" to fix, I'm surprised we didn't get a huge patch or day one hotfix but we got these little baby patches with some small great changes and huge amounts of store changes for the past few weeks. Like I dont care at all about the $100 gleamium bundle just fix the game
That's what I'm upset about the slow drip feed of "patches" which should have been in launch day 1 engine change or not makes 0 sense. It's straight up malicious. They're rolling things out like this in an effort to build "good will" back with its strange playerbase instead of just releasing a finished product and improving upon it. All they had to do was delay the launch back to 2025 and none of this would've happened
Im so glad I played a lot during the beta and unlocked everyone I had no idea how insanely hard they made it to get characters that on top of no ranked no co op and no leaderboards I give this game 6 months before its dead
There was no Tekken or SF or Mortal Kombat. It never would have won that award otherwise.
Yeah but there were legacy games like king of fighters XV and new favs like DNf duel (arc sys)...
I will always say this, as long as the gameplay is good, that's all that matters. After the update, it's pretty decent so I don't get what people are so upset about.
But the gameplay has problems, they removed many elements that people liked from the beta, and they lock gameplay elements behind a paywall. This take is 100% subjective and doesn't add much to the conversation of the grander issues of the game.
This vid is worth the full watch
I mostly avoided all of that PvE stuff as it's very repetitive and simply not fun, coming from a roguelike player, and I get that PvE helps you unlock new characters and do the missions or whatnot but at this point it's more fun to just play casuals until you get enough currency to buy the characters that you really want to play
this game was supposed to be a tax write off for WB. sucks cause you can feel if there was some more work put into it it couldve been pretty fun. Brawlhalla didn't feel good until scythes were introduced, so it just needed to cook more.
I'm saying! This games combat and systems had so much potential but nah just all down the drain...
What is scythes? I never played brawlhalla
@@WeirdBoyGaming They're a weapon type in brawlhalla can pickup in matches that alter combos from what I remember. Other weapons include short range guns, blades, hammers, spears, etc.
Good video
Here's the things I hate about Multiversus Rift Mode:
*Needs to have certain characters in order to get diamonds to level up your gem perks.
*No retry button when you fail the level
*Needs a friend online and no couch co-op
*The tank minigame is impossible to beat solo
*Specific missions are very scummy as you have to buy instead of grinding :/
Yep a lot of this is beyond frustrating and with the new news it's only a sign that the rifts are going to get worse. I got one last video going in depth with my thoughts on MTX and gameplay
for me my number one issue is the delay ad laggyness of the game its not fun, it should've have region servers me base on SEA playing a players reside on NA with a delay is not fun, and I think that is the same feeling as my opponent. It is very very rare to me to have a same players who are in the same region as me with not laggyness or delay when playing a match. Same as you I'm more focus on the 2v2 mode like what the devs is catering for this game. And yes I have the same feeling as you that I cannot pinpoint out what's the problem with this game. But as of right now writing this one since the release it has too many redflags this game presented to us and it's a bad sign, I'm already thinking at some point if the unknown issues that we cannot pinpoint at this game it will affect it and eventually shuts down. And I have no faith with former Riot devs since I know that they are slow in addressing some of the concerns of their games mainly the LOL since it is always known that they prioritize new characters then to selling new skins instead of addressing the technicalities of their game. Just look at their engine for LOL it is ancient at this point. At least Valve DOTA 2 game had a new engine source 2 when they transitioned to that in 7.00 patch making it the first game to use their newly created engine followed by Alyx VR Half-life game then the recent CS2 entry in that franchise. (BTW Dota 2 was made and running on Source 1 engine before 7.00 path release)
with each passing day, this game gets closer to dying. The game is never ment to last and is a failed project. I really can't see this game suceeding any time soon with how bad the monitization is
Oh ty youu reminded me to go do the dailies
There also isn't much of a visual upgrade. If anything, it's a downgrade stylistically. The UI looks more like Fortnite, the character icons have regressed from beautiful dynamic art to unlit 3d renders, the ready up screens now have characters separated in a void, even in doubles, and the gameplay just looks cheap. I'm sorry, but I would expect even a bit of dynamic lighting and for a 2024 game to look on par with Smash Ultimate, a game that is almost 6 years old released on what is widely considered to be outdated hardware. When the characters are lit the exact same with the same circle shadow on Townsville vs. Scooby's Haunted Mansion, something's wrong.
It's baffling to me just how many people (including some of my friends) wave away the issues with the monetization because it's clearly so closely integrated into the gameplay loop. You need to sink $10 for each new fighter if you don't want to grind, leveling up gems is a random coin toss that you can eliminate by buying experience, missions locked behind characters/skins/traits, etc. Hell, there's a dedicated right stick press that immediately takes you to buy gleamium, it's ridiculous how entrenched this game is with microtransactions. I'm not even going to get into rifts having purchasable lives in harder difficulties, this isn't an arcade game.
Comparing the game's feel with smash four is perfect because with the lack of hitstun and the abundance of rolling and air dodging, and the fact that there's no shields or grab for that RPS mechanic, the game felt like smash 4 Rivals of Aether.......... that is NOT a good thing.
I think my main issue with this game is how it focuses solely on the online experience and all this live service and monetary shit that local play is pretty abysmal, especially in the beta. I will never forget when this game first came out and I played it with my cousin who actually was really into this game, and we were planning on playing on the same computer and just fighting bots with each other, only to quickly find out that you CANNOT do that. Yes, despite being a mechanic that's been in every platform fighters since SMASH SIXTY FOUR, you cannot fight cpus locally with a buddy, because the game is so focused on online play and competitive, even though there's no ranked. Say what you will about Nick and it's failure, that was a game that even at its lowest with the first game you could still just hop in with a couple of people locally, whether that be your friends or family, turn on items, go on a couple of wacky but fun levels like the Hey Arnold and Rugrats level, and just mess around and genuinely have fun with this goofy cartoon fighting game. Even with the second game where it doesn't even have any good casual levels, it still has this in mind, and with that game's amazing gameplay, I not only had a blast playing competitively, but for the first 2 months I didn't even touch online and just played the game for the single player content for weeks if not months.
9:40 was it unrealistc? yes... but god damit did i want Gandalf as a Playable character with a levelup mechanic from Grey->White with an evolving moveset. (New Line Cinema is a daughter company of WB so they have access to the movie version of the characters)
Yeah I love lotr so I'd be down for that! What's crazy is gandalf was in the leaks!!!
Oh wow I really lucked out, but even the fact I grinded a lot in beta. I still have all my fighters and cosmetics transferred over. Still this game feels like a 50/50 but I don’t want it to go but I prefer the beta more 😢
same here I grinded a ton in beta! Just a bit sad a lot of things didn't transfer
The devs need to see this video , and the wb executives need to STEP BACK AND LEAVE THE DEVS ALONE
Why did the remove spectator mode from customs? Like who in the hell thought “you know what we have spectator implemented but lets just remove it”.
Wait till video two XD the amount of stuff gone from beta being re added is insane
Man I have a love hate relationship with this game I hate the grinding I hate the fact it’s difficult to unlock characters is my main hatred I hate having wait walls for something. But I love this game for potential I love the game for gameplay to me sure it can be buggy and stuff but the combos feel clean each character has so much thoughts put into there movesets. And the roster minus black Adam and lebron James like why did they add them and even maybe bannana guard even though he has grown on me is good and fun for its size and it will only expand hopefully bringing so many new characters that makes the game limitless from uncle ruckus from the boondocks to static shock to Elmo to Freddy Kruger we could have so much. I hope they fix the issues and add more characters because this game has potential wb just needs to stop being greedy and give fans what they want. Don’t rely on crummy business practices give the people who want to spend the money a reason don’t force them to. If you look up mutiversus wish list there is so much videos and passionate for this game and give great ideas. By the way Ben 10 for mutiversus
I agree with the complaints about the monetisation system but IMO the gameplay at its very core is good and has a lot of potential. There are definitely balancing issues and lag + desyncs aren’t uncommon but I feel like the gameplay foundation and feel of the game is actually pretty good.
Call me delusional but I’m still hopeful about the game’s future especially since PFG (for all their faults) are clearly invested and passionate about this project, having a lot of patches is not a bad thing whatsoever. Patience, understanding and constructive criticism from content creators is what will help this game survive, not doomsday predictions
I'm in the same boat I still boot the game up and play but gosh I wish some changes were made to gameplay (hitboxes etc) so it flows better! I really want to compete in this game!
INTRODUCE CHARACTERS THAT ARE INTERESTING!!!! I love morty mostly because its a different type of character in the game: a prepubescent teen with cool gadgets. Like wheres samurai jack Wheres scorpion WHERES WALTER WHITE!! it would be harder for that last one but ANYTHING is more interesting than martian manhunter, black adam, gizmo. Looking at this roster makes me sleepy because its so boring!!
Its overwatch 2 all over again 💀
Low key worse...
25:25 My founder's pack tickets and some paid skins are just gone.
WHAT!? thats INSANELY UNFAIR!
Free for all is missing