This is sad. Especially when multiversus can't even add an unequip button on the damn crystals for the rift mode and default LeBrons feet go through the floor
@@KindofBradAtThis as someone who really likes Multiversus despite it's flaws , having a guaranteed crash in the first 3 minutes of play is infuriating
@@KindofBradAtThis Sony is hella anti consumer same with Nintendo. Sony is being dug into the ground with how they're running their company. Nintendo is sue happy and just very against fun and treats their fans pretty shitty. I understand if you like their products but as a company they're both pretty bad. Same with Microsoft.
@@randomwhitedude9227 All your progress is front loaded into one-time tutorial quests though. It’s easy to get the first ~10k Fighter currency, but after that you’re cut off. You fell for the mobile game trap where they give you a ton of gifts early on to make the system seem less predatory than it actually is
@@simonshura9144 they quite literally are and have proved it, in one of their trailers they made fun of players that like to play comp or actually try.
@@lylelylecrocodile2538 It was a trailer that showed thier latest level to play on. It's the level that everyone hates, with the conveyor belts, the side scrolling one. They called that one the "Fun" Version, and then showed the competetive version. crossed out the word "Boring" and wrote competetive next to it. Effectively calling out serious players as boring. They are out of touch completely.
@@2inverse469at first I thought it was a funny lil thing for people who want to play everything seriously all the time instead of using the stages that had fun random elements to it but then I played the stage and realized it wasn't actually fun
Honestly, I'd even prefer the old coloring system they had for the enemy characters where they would get a red shirt instead of looking like they swallowed a red hot chili pepper. Idk if it's a bug but Shaggy still somehow wears blue pants when I'm controlling him. *H O W*
@@KindofBradAtThis it's at least better than just painting them all red. It can honestly be hard on the eyes when you just see the characters as a single color rather than their original palette.
i played the shit out of the beta, and i’m left confused by the new system. i don’t understand the currencies or the way the perks work, or the events.
it's actually crazy how little progression you can make each day. playing the game after youre done completing the 3 daily quests you get each day is pointless because you get no xp for playing normal matches, just character points that level up a character until eventually the only reward you get is the useless perk currency. and dont even get me started on how slow and zoomed in the gameplay is now. it really feels like theres less content than there was in the beta, and its really disappointing because i was so excited for this game. i really hope they fix these issues and dont just give up on the game again but honestly i dont have high hopes.
I def know the game is going to get better with time apparently a lot of features should have been in the game but due to how long it took them to switch to ue5 they weren’t able to finish everything but we know that alot of issues are going to be fixed soon
I genuinely hate Warner Brothers for this. I want David Zaslav to retire and for someone with a soul and a brain in charge so the rot can start being flushed out
I mean, wb games has like 350 busniess executives, and player first has only 16 developers in comparsion. its was doomed the second the open beta closes, they legit ruined such a good foundation
The worst part of this entire thing is that, yeah, Multiversus was great in beta. Yeah it was fun to play. The most important of all, if this game doesn’t do well because of WB, we WILL have another great studio shutting down because of a higher up.
I had more than enough gold to buy the entire roster of characters (I was saving for skins, which were purchasable by gold) but in this full launch they took it all away and in place gave me a banner
The lag on Xbox is so bad it’s not even worth playing, once you finish your missions for the day there’s literally nothing to do, you can’t even grind out the battle pass or fighter currency.
The slower gameplay was done to accomodate the rollback and vastly reduce desyncs which were notoriously bad in the beta. I personally don't mind it because I think the beta had a severe "sweaty palm" issue due to the dodge cancel spamming, which made some moves that were already way too safe become impossible to punish. However, I wouldn't mind if the live version's gameplay was slightly faster, though, maybe on par with Smash Ultimate. Frankly I think that the devs went to "fix" stuff that didn't need fixes. Tony (the game director) said on Twitter that most of old features from the beta are missing from the final game because the team spent a lot of time remaking the UI and other screens, which blows my mind. The UI in the beta was tidy, clean and intuitive, while still being stylish. The new UI in the live game feels like some mobile game crap; I legit think the high execs demanded PFG to make the UI look like "Fortnite or something" because it even uses that generic blue gradient for the backgrounds. I'm truly convinced that many of the bad design decisions were imposed by Warner Bros. to fit the "modern model" of live service games.
Remember when games made stylistic and gameplay choices because "hey that sounds like it'd be fun for the player" or "oooh that would look cool" instead of via a checklist produced by a corporate boardroom hundreds of miles away from a dev studio who's overworked and given the crappiest deadlines imaginable? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
I honestly liked the beta more, it was just more fun and I think the 200cc to 50cc Mario kart captures that feeling. Ive been watching videos, exploring features and clocking in hours almost in an effort to gaslight myself into thinking it's better, but truth is beta was just so much more fun, easier to jump into, and felt like it had more soul. I don't get how the full launch cuts features from the beta to be added later, and made more complicated. I'm still having fun and will continue to play cuz it is still really fun and I love the character design but I hope that they try to get in touch with what made the beta so good
its much better now. gameplay is much more thought out and less braindead. parry, dash attacks, and iads. thankfully its like this now. it will keep a core fanbase
Personally I like the new speed of the game, it feels a lot more thought out, instead of just sprinting around the screen and mashing attack and dodge. However, I do agree with the rest of the criticisms, I hope they fix all the problems, cause this game is rly fun I don't want it to fall off again.
Man I was so confused when I launched the game, I couldn't believe my eyes. How can you mess up that bad an official launch, when you had a GREAT beta, players to give you advice during a ONE YEAR break, and a HUGE waiting community. Ended up uninstalling. I mean, that's what they want, right?
Doom Eternal, Death Stranding, the entire Soulsborne genre, and the Alan Wake series, becoming cult classics as games like this get thrown to the wayside: _Amatuers._
Note: its not a 30 frame input delay window. Reminder that thats half a fucking second. If sfv got an absolute shitstorm for 8 frames, imagine what 30 wouldve been. The game does have a 30 frame *BUFFER* window. Which is a different thing, that still makes the game a bit wierd to play.
Gigantic comes back: Completely out of the blue, two new characters, a brand new mode, two new maps, some server problems but that's granted, abandonded for like 8 years, pay to play but can reasonably get all characters in a day or two, brand new lore-giving fortune cards (basically missions), basically the same game but with new stuff Mutliversus comes back: Planned from the start three new characters, two new maps, PvE mode, minor server problems (at least for me), only been offline for a year, free to play but it takes a month or like 50$ to get all the characters, completely different engine, feels like a different game, removed a buuuuunch of good stuff (some skills, playing locked characters in training, some settings for some reason) Conclusion: Multiversus, I love you, but Gigantic is my baby and I'll play until the end of time.
I've played about 300 hours of multiversus, and I love this game, but new currencies which take hours to get, or are borderline useless, combined with the balancing, and bugs just make me want to stop playing. It's sad to see a game that I put so many hours into die like this, I fear that I may never be able to kick someones ass with lebron balls ever again.
the steamchart data is pretty hilarious. ~67,000 average players with a peak of ~153,000 in July of 2022, when the game first released. ~12,000 average players with a peak of ~114,000 within the last 30 days, surrounding it's relaunch. this shows that en masse, people have been playing the game and damn near instantly dropping it after seeing how bad it is now. i racked up over 100 hours in beta and loved it. i played one session of season 2 and uninstalled lmao.
someone actually putting some sense into this game this game was amazing, the game was fast and not slow the characters look to big, there was no need to change it. I 100% agree with everything u said
Bro Honestly I like the game with slower speed because the fights now can be more thought out instead of braindead users spamming the same button over and over again. I agree with the other criticisms tho
@@kermitgotthesickkicks4265 that's why I said it's only one step forward. Unreal engine 5 looks only a little better. But definitely not worth the 1 year hiatus they took to "polish" the game.
In the games defense, I think its worth bringing up that the whole "38 hours to unlock one character" thing is just not true. I fully believe that the guy on twitter did in fact put that amount of time into the game and only got enough currency to get one character, but (unfortunately) time investment does not directly correlate to unlocking characters in this game since as you mentioned there aren't many rewards for actually playing games. Fighter currency is mostly acquired through dailies and events, which can be done in 30 minutes to an hour each day. After logging in and doing dailies for 4 days I've earned enough currency to unlock 3 fighters. It's not about time sink in a single sitting, its about coming back regularly.
I have been playing brawlhalla for about 7 years and meele for 4 years. I've played in some local meele tournaments and some small scale brawlhalla tournaments and used to be a high diamond brawlhalla player, so this opinion comes from someone that loves fast pace platform fighters. The beta of mutliversus felt incredible and i played it a lot when it was up, the fast gameplay felt smooth and i could really identify with Finn because he felt like the perfect character for me. the game now feels slow and clunky and the input delay makes it impossible for me to do anything. when I play a platform fighter i want to focus on reading my opponents moves, not my own characters. i can't play the game because i constantly feel like i'm not really in control of my character and that's just awful, a good game should have a perfect translation between a players inputs and the characters movement, so that it feels natural. to me, multiversus doesn't feel natural at all, i tried to enjoy the game but i just can't in the current state, i sadly gave the game up. I was excited for it coming back because the beta felt great and i could've truly seen myself competing in it as i have in other games, but this rerelease is just not fun to me
As a Brawlhalla player, I'm happy to see someone actually praise our game's consistency despite it not reaching the high player counts of games like Multiversus
the Spider-Man2 protecting PFG from Reddit bit is so real. Theyre being cruel af over there, and thats not even including people who are making fun of others for not having fun 😭
Me and my friend who were excited for this games launch were practically unable to play due to lag, grindy character unlocks, constant crashing, no VC, no way to train with the characters we wanted to use until we bought them, which we never even got around to doing in the first place, and a severe lack of content. We had a solid 2 days of things to do before we had more fun not playing the game than we did playing the game. This game is the most disappointing thing I've ever experienced.
I swear, when he said the servers are better I cringed, the first few days every second 2v2 match would just crash, now its every 5th or something, but the input lag and in game lag is just a bad combo, like I can do moves with armor, see my character hitting and get hit a few seconds later, even when there isnt an enemy near me, its absolutely a joke how bad this game hot
Launch day was horrendous de syncs and game crashes literally every other game I thought it was just cuz hella ppl were in and a week later same issues…
I think i might be up to whats going on: WB said they arent making enough money so they figured a mature audience aint gonna buy skins for a cartoony platformer and so they changed it into a children friendly game by slowing it down, removing slurs and damage counters so it feels casual
Yea I definitely blame WB too for getting their fing hands on it and turning this game that had a whole lot of passion life and potential into a soulless cash grab
I know it is horrible for WB to force these microtransactions. No game should have grinds that can be drastically reduced by a paywall. I love this game and really want it to succeed. It is a shame that they do that. They should just make skins, ringouts, announcer packs, and etc. Stuff that doesn't mechanically give an advantage or act as a paywall for progression. I love the game and hope it does well it has so much love built in to it. The characters and everything
Somehow you didn’t mention the poor optimization and CONSTANT crashing and audio glitches Part of me wants to feel bad, but I also know that we gave them lots of feedback that they claimed they would touch upon and yet now it’s basically confirmed that all went into a garbage shredder
You nailed it, corporate greed definitely is the most noticeable change over the year and it makes sense as the reason why the fundamentals are incomplete
I was going to put a college thesis on why making the game slower ruined everything but all you really need to know is that it ruined my main Garnet and im still salty about it
I also don't understand why the characters you unlocked in the beta didn't just transfer over, O had fully unlocked Batman, Harley, Superman, Bugs, Finn, Jake, now I would have to grind a lot to play woth some of thoese characters.
@@kermitgotthesickkicks4265 I also transferred the account from Playstation to my Xbox, maybe they don't have cross progression or that caused it to bug out, still not really a problem until they fix the gameplay because I won't be playing before that
I just got back into Multiversus and I've been enjoying it, it's just so, so boring that I'm limited to about 4 characters... I wish characters costed 1k, I think that would make it a lot better
I wish the game was better, i was so hyped for it to come back and yet i have only played the 'full release' for like 5 hours. You get bored of it within a couple of hours with the lack of characters to play as and the slow ass gameplay.
The time it takes to unlock characters is way too fucking long. They pulled the Battlefront bullshit with 40 playtimes for 1 character. I was going to buy the joker but gave up on that because i have a life. Also slowing the game was wild, ive gotten used to it but it feels so bad when i cant even follow up because my fat ass is too slow.
WB needs to understand that you can't force every free player to turn into a paying one, no matter how many paywalls you include. If the average player experience isn't good enough, people can go somewhere else to get their fix.
For me rn I do like the game but it defenitly has a lot of issues more than it should. Thankfully the devs are going to be addressing them but low key really wish the relaunch was better ngl. One of my biggest problems is just how slow the game feels
The gem pay to win crap is very corporate and greedy. I don’t have an issue personally with character unlocks because I bought the founders pack so I have thousands of character currency and nine more free unlocks. However, I do feel bad for those new to the game and those who didn’t buy the founders pack. Also rifts are boring and yes the grind for the battle pass is stupid forcing you to play every day for hours in modes you might not even like.
multiverses looks more like a traditional 2d fighter with the larger characters, heavier combat and the cameras main focus being the characters and not the stage. It honestly looks like they tried to do half and half but failed at both.
The gameplay went from fastpast dodge fest to a turn based rpg. Where u sit and wait for the other person to attack. Im getting used to it. Idk if i like it.
I hate this, I got really excited about the news that Jason would be in the game, but, surprise! He's a battle pass exclusive. I got 3k crystals to but a character, wanted to buy the Joker cause I really like the character, HE COSTS DOUBLE. I think: well let's at least try the other characters in training so I can see who I want. YOU CAN'T. I play KOF 2002 and Brawlhalla a lot, and I got happy that there would be a fighting game that my friends were interested to play as well, but I simply can't go past the laggy slow gameplay, like what the hell is that? It's like the characters are under water. Multiversus is a game that I wanted to enjoy but warner just gave me the middle finger expecting me to suck it
The game was already grindy back in beta now its impossible to unlock charaters without welcome back bonuses. There is few daily challanges which give 1 tier at bp at max and the agent smith event is horrible. Hope they make accurate changes cuz like beta 90% of the players will dissapear.
As much as I've had fun there have been an equal amount of times where I rolled my eyes at the changes/monetization they've incorporated, and I'm glad someone is talking about it as it is pretty disappointing. The thing that drove me to the brink were the weekly challenges that are impossible to complete if you don't have certain character. I've completed all of them except for "use jokers bazookas" and it's not a great look to lock battlepass progress behind more paywalls. Same with the single player mode needing you to have joker or another friend to play with. Also just realized I watched your marvel rivals video, loved it!
My problem with this game is the extra perks for fights and stuff and the xp grinds and the cosmetics. Like, the reason smash bros is the king of platform fighters is because it’s simple and fun, with free alternate costumes no cosmetics but items if you wanna get crazy etc. but multi versus adds all this small extra stuff but it doesn’t make it better, it makes it more annoying like I just wanted this game to be wb smash bros but since it’s free to play it’s gotta have all this grinding and battle passes and just stuff that makes it not fun to me
the game might be slow for that focus on parrying and there no one parrying on reaction so the game still to fast or it needs a less strict parry window
The obfuscation of the in-game currency is insane. 4 currencies to keep track of is way too much. I want to play a game, not keep speadsheets of multiversus finances so I can figure out out what I can buy.
I love that you pointed out all the things that Brawlhalla is doing right by comparison. I’ve been playing Brawlhalla for almost 3 years now and I somehow haven’t gotten bored of it, which is very unusual for me lol.
It makes me so sad the game doesnt feel like a combo game anymore. My highest combo's non-hitstun are like 3/4. Beta they were like 6-7 and didn't even feel too OP. Everyone had a dope combo they could use. Now its just running and upsmashing or spiking.
The free-to-play aspect is honestly the worst part of the game. I would have gladly shelled out $60 for the game if I got access to the entire base roster easily, on top of all the game modes and whatnot. Instead, I either have to spend copious amounts of hours grinding in order to unlock, like, two or three of them, and there are over 20 fighters, or shell out real world money, which is going to end up costing me a lot more. They should have done what Nintendo did with Smash Bros: RELEASE A COMPLETE PRODUCT FOR RETAIL PRICE AND IMPROVE IT WITH UPDATES, ADDING PAID DLC ALONG THE WAY. Nintendo has made millions off of Smash Bros Ultimate alone, it 100% proves that people are willing to pay full retail price for a game and then pay more for DLC if the quality is there. Thankfully, this game has the backing of a big corporation, and I guess they can afford to make this game "free" because of that.
Your comparison to dark souls and blood borne, that was spot on, yknow I never truly understood why I enjoyed Multi SO MUCH. But this is a perfect explanation. It was just the faster paced smash and I really enjoyed that. The game also played better back then to an extent as well. It had its issues sure but at least I could finish a game without being desynced. I also cannot STAND how they’ve dumbed down all the characters with their combos so now the game just feels like skill less tier whoring. Like I used to never play certain characters cause I didn’t know the combo routes, now pfft go into the lab for literally 2 mins you’ll figure it out on your own!
Put 80 hours into the beta and some money and for some reason I got all the beta rewards BUT the battle pass and they’re just sending me automated support replies and the deadline to claim it is near, awfully convenient.
There is one rule I strongly believe must be made in multiplayer/live-service games: "If your experience with the game feels more like a secondary job that YOU have to pay, rethink how you monetize your product." On top of that, making one of the requirements to progress getting a character is have a friend do the same task or pay to skip that process is a slimy practice. Even more so, since the target audience are clearly kids and very young adult who might not have good monetary discipline.
I literally had about 4 -5 costumes I only got to keep the shagsworthy skin and taunts + the characters I bought . Many things missing and the fact that I don’t get reimbursed makes me not want to play it too long
it’s a fun game there is fun to be had but the grinding slightly ruins it because no matter how hard I try I can’t not try an get agent smith there’s something inside me that won’t let me stop
I agree with you because after unlocking everything that I needed for the rift mode I had 99 F*CKING GEMS and I needed a friend to get to the next level
Also the fact that you can't see damage done or knock outs at the end of a fight is ridiculous. Why make a fighting game if I can't see how much damage and knock outs I had SMH!!! \
Note that WB put a statement on doubling down on live services and less to no more AAA games
I think my shop is broken all it has is the prestige store and the character store
But at the same time don't do nothing about Multiversus just having 16 devs yes,
16 DEVS...........
What are AAA Games?
@@Hunter668 AAA games (or triple A)
are the games that are concidered to have a high budget or time for development
This is sad. Especially when multiversus can't even add an unequip button on the damn crystals for the rift mode and default LeBrons feet go through the floor
Oh to live in a world where WB owns so many good properties but DOESN'T ruin them
Hey atleast Xbox is doing a good jo- 😧
@@KindofBradAtThis as someone who really likes Multiversus despite it's flaws , having a guaranteed crash in the first 3 minutes of play is infuriating
@@KindofBradAtThis atleast Sony is not scumm- it's 2024 all gaming companies have gone to complete trash
@@Saulbreadman Sony/Nintendo are pretty alright tbh
@@KindofBradAtThis Sony is hella anti consumer same with Nintendo. Sony is being dug into the ground with how they're running their company. Nintendo is sue happy and just very against fun and treats their fans pretty shitty. I understand if you like their products but as a company they're both pretty bad. Same with Microsoft.
It takes 6 FULLY MAXED CHARACTERS TO UNLOCK 1 CHARACTER outside of events and battlepass and you cant practice locked characters.
Whats worst is The Joker cost double than everybody else so he takes even longer to unlock
Game hasn't been out a full week and I already unlocked the joker and Arya. It's really not hard
@randomwhitedude9227 it's not hard just really grindy
Holy L batman
@@randomwhitedude9227 All your progress is front loaded into one-time tutorial quests though. It’s easy to get the first ~10k Fighter currency, but after that you’re cut off.
You fell for the mobile game trap where they give you a ton of gifts early on to make the system seem less predatory than it actually is
Damn. It's like they sincerely don't want people to play this game.
They are definitely aiming for the lil kids who steal their parents creditcards eventually STONKS
@@simonshura9144 they quite literally are and have proved it, in one of their trailers they made fun of players that like to play comp or actually try.
@@NBAdux wait in which one?
@@lylelylecrocodile2538 It was a trailer that showed thier latest level to play on. It's the level that everyone hates, with the conveyor belts, the side scrolling one. They called that one the "Fun" Version, and then showed the competetive version. crossed out the word "Boring" and wrote competetive next to it. Effectively calling out serious players as boring. They are out of touch completely.
@@2inverse469at first I thought it was a funny lil thing for people who want to play everything seriously all the time instead of using the stages that had fun random elements to it but then I played the stage and realized it wasn't actually fun
Imagine being the few things in internet history of getting a second chance, and then you find out your boss is WB
this game sucks ever since they ruined the dodging, ngl
@@dieauferstehung no
Honestly, I'd even prefer the old coloring system they had for the enemy characters where they would get a red shirt instead of looking like they swallowed a red hot chili pepper.
Idk if it's a bug but Shaggy still somehow wears blue pants when I'm controlling him. *H O W*
Kind of ruins the point of skins when everyone has a layer of red over them
@@KindofBradAtThis it's at least better than just painting them all red. It can honestly be hard on the eyes when you just see the characters as a single color rather than their original palette.
It's a bug it will get fixed
@@iiTzSunrise can't you just turn off the colored character outlines anyways?
I totally agree with this about the color
i played the shit out of the beta, and i’m left confused by the new system. i don’t understand the currencies or the way the perks work, or the events.
The only reason you ever need 4 currencies in a game like this is to confuse people and hope they just buy instead of
Are you stupid?
I understand all of it, it’s just extremely scummy in the way it’s set up to be as annoying as possible
imagine if they ditched half the currencies and replaced them with coins you win on every match consistently or something... oh wait
@@Artemi22 Wdym man? That’s way better as a game and not a money milker
it's actually crazy how little progression you can make each day. playing the game after youre done completing the 3 daily quests you get each day is pointless because you get no xp for playing normal matches, just character points that level up a character until eventually the only reward you get is the useless perk currency. and dont even get me started on how slow and zoomed in the gameplay is now. it really feels like theres less content than there was in the beta, and its really disappointing because i was so excited for this game. i really hope they fix these issues and dont just give up on the game again but honestly i dont have high hopes.
You cannot finish the battle pass at this rate
Title is accurate af. I'm still willing to give it time to get better, but, it should've already been better, it's super fucked up it isn't.
The sad part for me is 90% of people won’t wait and they knew that.
The shot is blown
I def know the game is going to get better with time apparently a lot of features should have been in the game but due to how long it took them to switch to ue5 they weren’t able to finish everything but we know that alot of issues are going to be fixed soon
@@KindofBradAtThis couldn't have said it better, I will sub bc of that. Keep up the good content this was lowkey funny to watch
I genuinely hate Warner Brothers for this. I want David Zaslav to retire and for someone with a soul and a brain in charge so the rot can start being flushed out
@@KindofBradAtThisyea I was hoping for so much more they really wasted a lot of opportunities
When I realised how long it would take to get Agent Smith, I decided to just wait out the two weeks without touching the game again.
I mean, wb games has like 350 busniess executives, and player first has only 16 developers in comparsion. its was doomed the second the open beta closes, they legit ruined such a good foundation
Yup the greed of the lazy rich ruined another game.
this game sucks ever since they ruined the dodging, ngl
@@dieauferstehung you can still kinda spam dodge but not too much, but I don’t like it when 90% of the match during beta was spam dodging
The worst part of this entire thing is that, yeah, Multiversus was great in beta. Yeah it was fun to play. The most important of all, if this game doesn’t do well because of WB, we WILL have another great studio shutting down because of a higher up.
I had more than enough gold to buy the entire roster of characters (I was saving for skins, which were purchasable by gold) but in this full launch they took it all away and in place gave me a banner
They removed gold so they could split it into more currencies all the while pretending perk points were somehow compensation
The beta felt like a real game and the real game feels like a beta….
Worse, we regressed back to Alpha.
Sounds like Hello Neighbor
the new dodging sucks lol
So real
4:35 "drake please get away" is wild 💀
WOP WOP WOP WOP
ghetto culture
DRAKE WHY THAT THANG SO LONG
@@KindofBradAtThis DOT FUCK EM UP
The game hasn't even been out for a week and I have nothing to do...
The lag on Xbox is so bad it’s not even worth playing, once you finish your missions for the day there’s literally nothing to do, you can’t even grind out the battle pass or fighter currency.
Grinding for One fighter takes along time and it get boring so fast AND U CAN'T EVEN TRY A LOCKED CHARACTER IN TRAINING!!
They need rank asap
@@Redline29827 it’s coming 7th I think. They only probs done this so they can fix ants bugs
Any*
The slower gameplay was done to accomodate the rollback and vastly reduce desyncs which were notoriously bad in the beta. I personally don't mind it because I think the beta had a severe "sweaty palm" issue due to the dodge cancel spamming, which made some moves that were already way too safe become impossible to punish. However, I wouldn't mind if the live version's gameplay was slightly faster, though, maybe on par with Smash Ultimate.
Frankly I think that the devs went to "fix" stuff that didn't need fixes. Tony (the game director) said on Twitter that most of old features from the beta are missing from the final game because the team spent a lot of time remaking the UI and other screens, which blows my mind. The UI in the beta was tidy, clean and intuitive, while still being stylish. The new UI in the live game feels like some mobile game crap; I legit think the high execs demanded PFG to make the UI look like "Fortnite or something" because it even uses that generic blue gradient for the backgrounds.
I'm truly convinced that many of the bad design decisions were imposed by Warner Bros. to fit the "modern model" of live service games.
Agreed
Remember when games made stylistic and gameplay choices because "hey that sounds like it'd be fun for the player" or "oooh that would look cool" instead of via a checklist produced by a corporate boardroom hundreds of miles away from a dev studio who's overworked and given the crappiest deadlines imaginable?
Pepperidge Farm remembers.
Omg the multiversus guy is back
Please I can’t have this title
@@KindofBradAtThis Multiversus Guy
@@KindofBradAtThis Multiversus Guy
@@KindofBradAtThis Multiversus guy
@@KindofBradAtThis Sorry buddy, but you don't have a choice.
I honestly liked the beta more, it was just more fun and I think the 200cc to 50cc Mario kart captures that feeling. Ive been watching videos, exploring features and clocking in hours almost in an effort to gaslight myself into thinking it's better, but truth is beta was just so much more fun, easier to jump into, and felt like it had more soul. I don't get how the full launch cuts features from the beta to be added later, and made more complicated. I'm still having fun and will continue to play cuz it is still really fun and I love the character design but I hope that they try to get in touch with what made the beta so good
The beta needed fixed it's much better now
@@LemonEditsAndReviews The beta was far from perfect but better tbh
its much better now. gameplay is much more thought out and less braindead. parry, dash attacks, and iads. thankfully its like this now. it will keep a core fanbase
@@johnex2154its just not though
Personally I like the new speed of the game, it feels a lot more thought out, instead of just sprinting around the screen and mashing attack and dodge. However, I do agree with the rest of the criticisms, I hope they fix all the problems, cause this game is rly fun I don't want it to fall off again.
Man I was so confused when I launched the game, I couldn't believe my eyes. How can you mess up that bad an official launch, when you had a GREAT beta, players to give you advice during a ONE YEAR break, and a HUGE waiting community. Ended up uninstalling. I mean, that's what they want, right?
Couldnt have said it better. You cant sell skins or battle passes if people cant use the characters associated with those skins
Single Player gamer to Multiplayer gamer:
“Wow, sucks to be you.”
Doom Eternal, Death Stranding, the entire Soulsborne genre, and the Alan Wake series, becoming cult classics as games like this get thrown to the wayside: _Amatuers._
this was an absolute perfect video. all the positives and negatives combined, I hope this game can live up to its potential
Too much blind bashing on this site
9:16 That McCree ult killed me by laughter
Note: its not a 30 frame input delay window. Reminder that thats half a fucking second. If sfv got an absolute shitstorm for 8 frames, imagine what 30 wouldve been. The game does have a 30 frame *BUFFER* window. Which is a different thing, that still makes the game a bit wierd to play.
"No one is going to buy your skins if they can't play the characters."
- Shakespeare
WB: EPIC GAMES MADE THIS IN A CAVE WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS
Underpaid Employees: I’m sorry I’m not Epic Games…
Gigantic comes back: Completely out of the blue, two new characters, a brand new mode, two new maps, some server problems but that's granted, abandonded for like 8 years, pay to play but can reasonably get all characters in a day or two, brand new lore-giving fortune cards (basically missions), basically the same game but with new stuff
Mutliversus comes back: Planned from the start three new characters, two new maps, PvE mode, minor server problems (at least for me), only been offline for a year, free to play but it takes a month or like 50$ to get all the characters, completely different engine, feels like a different game, removed a buuuuunch of good stuff (some skills, playing locked characters in training, some settings for some reason)
Conclusion: Multiversus, I love you, but Gigantic is my baby and I'll play until the end of time.
I've played about 300 hours of multiversus, and I love this game, but new currencies which take hours to get, or are borderline useless, combined with the balancing, and bugs just make me want to stop playing. It's sad to see a game that I put so many hours into die like this, I fear that I may never be able to kick someones ass with lebron balls ever again.
Great video Brad. Engaging animations, smooth story telling, letting peeps know WB be handing out that hard D. Overall well done
Yo thank you man! The kind words mean a lot, love your work too!
Still can’t believe a game with the possibility to have one of the biggest rosters ever didnt add ultimates to the game
the steamchart data is pretty hilarious. ~67,000 average players with a peak of ~153,000 in July of 2022, when the game first released. ~12,000 average players with a peak of ~114,000 within the last 30 days, surrounding it's relaunch. this shows that en masse, people have been playing the game and damn near instantly dropping it after seeing how bad it is now. i racked up over 100 hours in beta and loved it. i played one session of season 2 and uninstalled lmao.
someone actually putting some sense into this game this game was amazing, the game was fast and not slow the characters look to big, there was no need to change it. I 100% agree with everything u said
Skill issue detected, opinion rejected
Bro Honestly I like the game with slower speed because the fights now can be more thought out instead of braindead users spamming the same button over and over again. I agree with the other criticisms tho
I agree. It feels like they took 1 step forward in graphics and 4 steps backward in overall features and intuitiveness.
The game looks exactly the same lol.
@@kermitgotthesickkicks4265 that's why I said it's only one step forward. Unreal engine 5 looks only a little better. But definitely not worth the 1 year hiatus they took to "polish" the game.
In the games defense, I think its worth bringing up that the whole "38 hours to unlock one character" thing is just not true. I fully believe that the guy on twitter did in fact put that amount of time into the game and only got enough currency to get one character, but (unfortunately) time investment does not directly correlate to unlocking characters in this game since as you mentioned there aren't many rewards for actually playing games. Fighter currency is mostly acquired through dailies and events, which can be done in 30 minutes to an hour each day. After logging in and doing dailies for 4 days I've earned enough currency to unlock 3 fighters. It's not about time sink in a single sitting, its about coming back regularly.
Corporate greed is literally ruining everything… and the sad thing is ppl will indulge bc the game at its core is fun
as an art guy, the new interface design is an INSULT to my poor eyes 😭
I have been playing brawlhalla for about 7 years and meele for 4 years. I've played in some local meele tournaments and some small scale brawlhalla tournaments and used to be a high diamond brawlhalla player, so this opinion comes from someone that loves fast pace platform fighters. The beta of mutliversus felt incredible and i played it a lot when it was up, the fast gameplay felt smooth and i could really identify with Finn because he felt like the perfect character for me. the game now feels slow and clunky and the input delay makes it impossible for me to do anything. when I play a platform fighter i want to focus on reading my opponents moves, not my own characters. i can't play the game because i constantly feel like i'm not really in control of my character and that's just awful, a good game should have a perfect translation between a players inputs and the characters movement, so that it feels natural. to me, multiversus doesn't feel natural at all, i tried to enjoy the game but i just can't in the current state, i sadly gave the game up. I was excited for it coming back because the beta felt great and i could've truly seen myself competing in it as i have in other games, but this rerelease is just not fun to me
I’m going to be real the beta lacked intresting neutral
As a Brawlhalla player, I'm happy to see someone actually praise our game's consistency despite it not reaching the high player counts of games like Multiversus
the Spider-Man2 protecting PFG from Reddit bit is so real. Theyre being cruel af over there, and thats not even including people who are making fun of others for not having fun 😭
Leave it to Reddit to be absolute vultures. The game is definitely flawed but everyone on the Multiversus subreddit literally will never be happy
Me and my friend who were excited for this games launch were practically unable to play due to lag, grindy character unlocks, constant crashing, no VC, no way to train with the characters we wanted to use until we bought them, which we never even got around to doing in the first place, and a severe lack of content.
We had a solid 2 days of things to do before we had more fun not playing the game than we did playing the game.
This game is the most disappointing thing I've ever experienced.
I swear, when he said the servers are better I cringed, the first few days every second 2v2 match would just crash, now its every 5th or something, but the input lag and in game lag is just a bad combo, like I can do moves with armor, see my character hitting and get hit a few seconds later, even when there isnt an enemy near me, its absolutely a joke how bad this game hot
And as predicted the game took a great sprint then had a seizure died before leaving hospital.
to be fair even their "great sprint" was more like a great tumble down a hill
Launch day was horrendous de syncs and game crashes literally every other game I thought it was just cuz hella ppl were in and a week later same issues…
I think i might be up to whats going on: WB said they arent making enough money so they figured a mature audience aint gonna buy skins for a cartoony platformer and so they changed it into a children friendly game by slowing it down, removing slurs and damage counters so it feels casual
Yea I definitely blame WB too for getting their fing hands on it and turning this game that had a whole lot of passion life and potential into a soulless cash grab
I know it is horrible for WB to force these microtransactions. No game should have grinds that can be drastically reduced by a paywall. I love this game and really want it to succeed. It is a shame that they do that. They should just make skins, ringouts, announcer packs, and etc. Stuff that doesn't mechanically give an advantage or act as a paywall for progression. I love the game and hope it does well it has so much love built in to it. The characters and everything
Somehow you didn’t mention the poor optimization and CONSTANT crashing and audio glitches
Part of me wants to feel bad, but I also know that we gave them lots of feedback that they claimed they would touch upon and yet now it’s basically confirmed that all went into a garbage shredder
This was a 100% 10/10 video. I feel the exact same way. Multiverse, our baby 😢
You nailed it, corporate greed definitely is the most noticeable change over the year and it makes sense as the reason why the fundamentals are incomplete
I was going to put a college thesis on why making the game slower ruined everything but all you really need to know is that it ruined my main Garnet and im still salty about it
30 frame input buffer is not delay, it's where the next input is buffered and queued up, the input delay is rather normal.
Correct, the delay is like smash ultimate (input slider has to come tho)
I also don't understand why the characters you unlocked in the beta didn't just transfer over, O had fully unlocked Batman, Harley, Superman, Bugs, Finn, Jake, now I would have to grind a lot to play woth some of thoese characters.
A good chunk of the characters I unlocked transferred over. It's a bug you might want to report homie.
@@kermitgotthesickkicks4265 I also transferred the account from Playstation to my Xbox, maybe they don't have cross progression or that caused it to bug out, still not really a problem until they fix the gameplay because I won't be playing before that
@@kermitgotthesickkicks4265shouldn’t she to do all that . Another reason it’s a trash game
I just got back into Multiversus and I've been enjoying it, it's just so, so boring that I'm limited to about 4 characters... I wish characters costed 1k, I think that would make it a lot better
I wish the game was better, i was so hyped for it to come back and yet i have only played the 'full release' for like 5 hours. You get bored of it within a couple of hours with the lack of characters to play as and the slow ass gameplay.
The time it takes to unlock characters is way too fucking long. They pulled the Battlefront bullshit with 40 playtimes for 1 character. I was going to buy the joker but gave up on that because i have a life. Also slowing the game was wild, ive gotten used to it but it feels so bad when i cant even follow up because my fat ass is too slow.
Exactly
WB needs to understand that you can't force every free player to turn into a paying one, no matter how many paywalls you include. If the average player experience isn't good enough, people can go somewhere else to get their fix.
For me rn I do like the game but it defenitly has a lot of issues more than it should. Thankfully the devs are going to be addressing them but low key really wish the relaunch was better ngl. One of my biggest problems is just how slow the game feels
Multiversus was dead to me the second Warner Bros. decided to axe the modding scene.
you nailed it when you talked abr the movement. harley, my main is supposed to be the speedy glass cannon but now she moves sooo sluggish.
hats off to you man, you couldn’t have said anything better
Thanks frosty
8:29 I laughed when I saw Ted lasso, I stopped when I remembered it would take HOURS TO UNLOCK HIM
The gem pay to win crap is very corporate and greedy. I don’t have an issue personally with character unlocks because I bought the founders pack so I have thousands of character currency and nine more free unlocks. However, I do feel bad for those new to the game and those who didn’t buy the founders pack. Also rifts are boring and yes the grind for the battle pass is stupid forcing you to play every day for hours in modes you might not even like.
I like yo content, great editing, engaging script, and the platypus is the chefs kiss on top. Keep it up🫡🫡🫡
Thanks man!
multiverses looks more like a traditional 2d fighter with the larger characters, heavier combat and the cameras main focus being the characters and not the stage.
It honestly looks like they tried to do half and half but failed at both.
The game was officially released in the raw and undercooked fashion I've ever seen before, the beta was somehow more seasoned and had more flavor.
You can also spend over $100 to have all the characters
@@eatthis2326 yeah so dumb.. they need to sell the full game for like $10 and call it quits lmao
Its not about fun anymore it's about how many skins will they buy..the store always works perfect
The gameplay went from fastpast dodge fest to a turn based rpg. Where u sit and wait for the other person to attack. Im getting used to it. Idk if i like it.
The battlepass exp timegate sht is ridiculous 😂
It’s looking like unless you do every daily you CANT complete it
I hate this, I got really excited about the news that Jason would be in the game, but, surprise! He's a battle pass exclusive.
I got 3k crystals to but a character, wanted to buy the Joker cause I really like the character, HE COSTS DOUBLE.
I think: well let's at least try the other characters in training so I can see who I want. YOU CAN'T.
I play KOF 2002 and Brawlhalla a lot, and I got happy that there would be a fighting game that my friends were interested to play as well, but I simply can't go past the laggy slow gameplay, like what the hell is that? It's like the characters are under water. Multiversus is a game that I wanted to enjoy but warner just gave me the middle finger expecting me to suck it
When your father walks out and comes back different
The game was already grindy back in beta now its impossible to unlock charaters without welcome back bonuses. There is few daily challanges which give 1 tier at bp at max and the agent smith event is horrible. Hope they make accurate changes cuz like beta 90% of the players will dissapear.
I give it 3 to 4 years until the WB decides to pull the plug, because "the money is not there anymore."
As much as I've had fun there have been an equal amount of times where I rolled my eyes at the changes/monetization they've incorporated, and I'm glad someone is talking about it as it is pretty disappointing. The thing that drove me to the brink were the weekly challenges that are impossible to complete if you don't have certain character. I've completed all of them except for "use jokers bazookas" and it's not a great look to lock battlepass progress behind more paywalls. Same with the single player mode needing you to have joker or another friend to play with. Also just realized I watched your marvel rivals video, loved it!
they took finns gem away, ill never forgive this.
Why is nobody talking about the lag my friends and I lag out every 5th game it desyncs and kicks everybody out.
My problem with this game is the extra perks for fights and stuff and the xp grinds and the cosmetics. Like, the reason smash bros is the king of platform fighters is because it’s simple and fun, with free alternate costumes no cosmetics but items if you wanna get crazy etc. but multi versus adds all this small extra stuff but it doesn’t make it better, it makes it more annoying like I just wanted this game to be wb smash bros but since it’s free to play it’s gotta have all this grinding and battle passes and just stuff that makes it not fun to me
the game might be slow for that focus on parrying and there no one parrying on reaction so the game still to fast or it needs a less strict parry window
Yea parrying is useless on a 30 fps lag mess
The obfuscation of the in-game currency is insane. 4 currencies to keep track of is way too much. I want to play a game, not keep speadsheets of multiversus finances so I can figure out out what I can buy.
Don’t like how slow it is now
I love that you pointed out all the things that Brawlhalla is doing right by comparison. I’ve been playing Brawlhalla for almost 3 years now and I somehow haven’t gotten bored of it, which is very unusual for me lol.
The 30 frame buffer system is so abysmal jesus
The game's beta felt like the official release. The official release feels like a beta.
It makes me so sad the game doesnt feel like a combo game anymore. My highest combo's non-hitstun are like 3/4. Beta they were like 6-7 and didn't even feel too OP. Everyone had a dope combo they could use. Now its just running and upsmashing or spiking.
I did notice the game became slower but I wasn’t sure,now I know.That’s why the bugs bunny hammer-tornado x3 combo doesn’t work
The free-to-play aspect is honestly the worst part of the game.
I would have gladly shelled out $60 for the game if I got access to the entire base roster easily, on top of all the game modes and whatnot.
Instead, I either have to spend copious amounts of hours grinding in order to unlock, like, two or three of them, and there are over 20 fighters, or shell out real world money, which is going to end up costing me a lot more.
They should have done what Nintendo did with Smash Bros: RELEASE A COMPLETE PRODUCT FOR RETAIL PRICE AND IMPROVE IT WITH UPDATES, ADDING PAID DLC ALONG THE WAY.
Nintendo has made millions off of Smash Bros Ultimate alone, it 100% proves that people are willing to pay full retail price for a game and then pay more for DLC if the quality is there.
Thankfully, this game has the backing of a big corporation, and I guess they can afford to make this game "free" because of that.
There are realistically almost no games at the 60$ price now you pushing 70 for a game with all these licenses 😂😂😂😂
Your comparison to dark souls and blood borne, that was spot on, yknow I never truly understood why I enjoyed Multi SO MUCH. But this is a perfect explanation. It was just the faster paced smash and I really enjoyed that. The game also played better back then to an extent as well. It had its issues sure but at least I could finish a game without being desynced. I also cannot STAND how they’ve dumbed down all the characters with their combos so now the game just feels like skill less tier whoring. Like I used to never play certain characters cause I didn’t know the combo routes, now pfft go into the lab for literally 2 mins you’ll figure it out on your own!
I got tired of the grind and brought ghost of toshima. That's how tired and angry I got..
Curentzy and lag is the only bad thing
Put 80 hours into the beta and some money and for some reason I got all the beta rewards BUT the battle pass and they’re just sending me automated support replies and the deadline to claim it is near, awfully convenient.
Just bro wait till he see Nickelodeon all stars brawl 2 💀
The Drake stray 🙏😭
In the most recent update they made it possible to try out characters you don’t own
i cant believe my favorite multiverses youtuber is uploading multiverses again
There is one rule I strongly believe must be made in multiplayer/live-service games: "If your experience with the game feels more like a secondary job that YOU have to pay, rethink how you monetize your product." On top of that, making one of the requirements to progress getting a character is have a friend do the same task or pay to skip that process is a slimy practice. Even more so, since the target audience are clearly kids and very young adult who might not have good monetary discipline.
what’d they do to my boy jake? 😭😭 they straight massacred my boy
harley quinn combo game butchered to smithereens💀
I literally had about 4 -5 costumes I only got to keep the shagsworthy skin and taunts + the characters I bought . Many things missing and the fact that I don’t get reimbursed makes me not want to play it too long
it’s a fun game there is fun to be had but the grinding slightly ruins it because no matter how hard I try I can’t not try an get agent smith there’s something inside me that won’t let me stop
I agree with you because after unlocking everything that I needed for the rift mode I had 99 F*CKING GEMS and I needed a friend to get to the next level
The developer said that most thing are gonna get get fixed like the training able to chose all caracters in the next ubdate.
My point is most people won’t be around or comeback for that. WB sold
Also the fact that you can't see damage done or knock outs at the end of a fight is ridiculous. Why make a fighting game if I can't see how much damage and knock outs I had SMH!!!
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to protect feelings duhhh.
They want to be the gatekeepers of emotions by restricting feelings