height presets would be a good way for EA to incorporate height differences in the future without having to fully redo the animations for every possible height. It seems like it would be easier to have variations of the same animation for a few different heights than trying to make the animation scale to any possible height in that way. Hoping for some good stuff in the future!
With the way tech has advanced i dont think they would have to make individual animations, just use a tracking system from the hands to object for example. Like paralives said they're doing
@@rowanart4810 That’s true, it probably wouldn’t be as hard to implement that into project rene since the technology is already so much more advanced than it was when the sims 4 originally came out. Fingers crossed!
Preach! I’ve been saying this for years. Honestly, the only animations that have issues due to height are the romantic ones. Most animations still look okay even with the height difference. So with presets it wouldn’t even be that many animations that need tweaking.
When rigging a character, you can define specific points where the characters will "glue" their hands to during certain animations. That's probably the reason why hugging and caressing their cheeks works well, because the shoulders and the cheeks are those defined points! :)
Yeah the only issue there is how it's handled. Since the game doesn't really know how to handle it, it just stretches out the arms or dislocates them. So the hands are no matter what going to be in the right spot but the arms will either suddenly grow or just not look attached. You notice it with the hugging and Bella's arms suddenly being longer.
With that in mind, it's probably to do with the body customizations that can already be done. Cheeks can be thinner or fuller, shoulders can be slimmer or broader, etc. Height is not the only factor that can make those animations look wrong.
@@lixiioreo i don’t like using mods bc i’m not all that tech savvy and i don’t want to mess something up - waiting for the base game to add height sliders
Honestly if they did do height sliders officially, it’d be so funny if sims could do height-specific interactions, because that would make some really funny and more realistic interactions. Edit: not mean interactions, that’s not okay
"Talk down to" for a sim talking to a shorter one. Depending on how big the height difference is, the shorter person could have a mad moodlet because the person isn't even that much taller.
Even the preteen mod they're still really tall for being like 12-14. Atleast with the height slider you can make the parents a tad taller and the preteen- teen a tad shorter. To give an illusion of a smaller preteen. I really want ea to just make a preteen stage
for anyone who wants pre-teens, the pre teen mod is AMAZING!! It makes preteens shorter and makes them go to middle school (: they also go through different puberty centered situations
I love tjat mod! I have them go to high school but I use the chose the high school mates and then only have other pree teens in their class. Super cool!
Too bad I can't download mods because I got 4 trojans once😢 (I still have the height slider mod and always testing,Always move objects on,and always full edit mode but thats pretty much it)
There is an automatic shorter teens mod on mod the sims that makes the teens automatically shorter than YA and A sims. You can also choose between two heights so they can be a little shorter and even shorter. And animations are fine because all teens are the same height and there isn’t clipping with adult sims either.
I love how in so many of the mod videos, Kayla already has the game open and needs to close it first. I know she's probably just trying to info you you need to close your game first, but I love the idea that she just literally never stops playing lol
I’d honestly prefer a teens refresh over the babies refresh. I (wrongly) theorized that because we had such a long gap of packs before High School Years that this must have meant they were doing a teen overhaul and they would finally look different, but unfortunately that wasn’t the case. I’m still optimistic though
HIGHLY agree with your point about preteens. We really just need a teen overhaul tbh. In Sims 5 I'd really like to see something similar to gradual aging for teens? "Teen" kinda covers alot of ground, so maybe as you progress through the teen lifestage their height and interaction options could change? For the latter is imagine it'd be similar to how toddlers interactions change based on their skills.
Yes! They could actually go through 'puberty' and how far along they are in it will affect how they look, in addition to other puberty stuff like acne and body hair and menstrual cycles (I know that those stuff exists in modes and some of the packs, but I really want puberty to be a proper thing, like a random bar somewhere, or a teen-specific skill, or maybe something similar to the fury system in werewolf) having them grow in hight based on how close they are to YA is the most realistic
I used to play w height sliders but it can make some interactions look awkward if the sims are too tall or too short :/ like when they kiss other sims or interact w certain objects it looks glitchy lol
That and the fact that some heights tend to make your Sims' feet disappear were the main reason I ultimately stopped using this mod. It's a shame. Because if it works, it adds so much to the game.
I also found this mod recently and it's a must-have for me! Something about seeing sims at different heights adds more realism and personality for me 😋
this is something that i really wanted. like you said we arent all the same size. im 6'4 so naturally i am taller than "most" people so when i play games that allow me to create myself i want to make my character taller. it adds to the immersion.
@@KatelynxXxAngel 5'8 is definitely tall for a girl. that's like the perfect height though, my mother is 5'9. i had one ex that was 5'8 the rest have been like 5'5 max. lol my back already hurts, but when i got to lean over or bend down to talk/hear someone it sucks.
@@BigDaddyStev-O I'm 6"2 (when I stand up straight - i essentially gave myself Scoliosis as a kid/teen just trying to blend in). All my early BF were short, and the backache is real!
I agree I think it sound better updating the kids and teens rather than adding pre teens. I relation to the height slider I'm still a bit concerned abuot the caress cheek-animation if it was the lower person caressing the taller person's cheek - it might be that the lower person would stick their hand into the taller persons chest or something 😅 but all in all like you I wouldn't mind some wierd looking animations, it's still a nice feature, that I might try out when I play some more 😊 Thanks for your rambling content, I love the autenticity, don't ever change ✨✨💛💛
@@LangkeeLongkee exactly! honestly the only way to make it not seem weird IS by adding pre teens (12-15 yrs old ish even tho 15 year olds are alr teens), and by changing the childs age from 12 ish to 6-9 ish
@LangkeeLongkee you don't stop growing until like 18-20, which is an adult. On top of that, maybe we'd rather younger teens, since you start being a teen at 13, not 16.
@jeriel preteen is 10-12, since theyre PRE teenage years. Teens start at 13, hense the teen suffix at the end of each number there. It doesn't make sense for preteens to include teen ages. Honestly, the kids are already like 12 yr old size, they just act like 6-8 yr olds. An update that makes both teens and kids a little younger looking would be the best option
@@theekatspajamas I only said 15 cuz u still look young for the most part at that age, they should just add younger teens around 14 ish or maybe 12 ish and then make kids younger
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Nice thing with the height slider is that is don't just stretch or squash the Sim, it also have a proportional effect on their girth. Taller Sims are broader and smaller Sims are thinner. What would be GREAT would be for the Sims actually progressively grow up in the infant, toddler, kid and teen life stage.
I've had this slider mod installed since I started playing and it's a game changer. if your really short sim has a child with another really short sim, their child has a chance of being short as well, same with really tall sims. it's honestly so much fun
I don't feel like using animations as an excuse for the sims team to not give us something we literally had in past games is valid. Don't want to sound like a Karen, but making animations is part of their job and what we pay for.
I actually want preteens for the whole middle school aspect. In previous sims games, we have never gotten the full picture of what life is like. It's nice now that we will have essentially, newborns, infants, toddlers, kids, teens, young adults, adults and elderly. We almost have all of the life stages we really go through. Adding preschoolers and preteens would kind of finalize the remaining gaps we have.
this is one of my absolute favorite mods, has been a must have for me for a while because it’s really fun to make them different heights as it gives them more personality
There was a height mod for Sims 2. I don’t mind as much that all the adults are the same size, but it really bothers me that there’s so little distinction between teens and adults in Sims 4.
I don’t really want preteens but if they implemented height presets, I’d love to see a random growth spurt feature where the kid gets taller but not quite teen height yet at the end of childhood to ease the transition into a teenager! I feel like going from 8 to like fifteen is pretty jarring lol
A pre-teen life stage would be an amazing Idea. Specifically in relation to puberty. There could be like a first period achievement thing, and like moodlets for like growing hair and voice cracks. They could add like a first day of high school thing in there, and like mood swings. Maybe a first crush thing as well. They already have a first kiss thing in the sims , but they could change it slightly for the pre-teens. Of Couse they'd have to add middle school which would change basically nothing except saying the sims are going somewhere else, but still. And best of all, they could do more than the kids, but less than the teenagers, so that it seems like way less drastic of a switch between ages.
also i gotta say i love the fact that the sims has so many amazing creators that they end up working for the actual game , i dont know a lot of other video games that is that much accessible
I haven't used mods or CC at all in the past- not for any major reason, I'm just lazy- but this mod might just be the one that makes me start using them because it really is a good change. And seeing the way the animations changed isn't much of a problem to me. I find things like the portraits and incorrect kissing animations to be funny, honestly.
Honestly as someone who is five feet tall in a world made for people who are at least 5'5, the fact that short sims don't fit properly in the portrait thing and u can only see the top half of their head is realistic.
I like that teens are the same size, ts4 teens are like 16/17 so them being the same height actually makes sense, if teens looked younger that would be fine or if we had preteens that would nice too because Sims currently go from like 8 to 16 and that makes no sense.
Preteen life stage could be so cool though. they could make the sims have more emotion bombs, different quirks as well as maybe having more hobbies they pick up and they can have them start going through puberty through that life stage!
Redhead sims actually has some sliders for that, as well as one for aduts/teens. I actually prefer that one since the legs don't bend weirdly on short sims, but you can use it together with Luumia's since they're in different places.
I wish children and teens would gradually gain height instead of magically grow taller when they age up. This mod proves that the clothes are not problem for the different heights.
I love height sliders! The one I use is feet based, and I’ve noticed that it forces npc sims to have variating heights because of this. Brant Hecking is SO TALL 😂
i feel like proper height differences would be possible in ts4 if they made teens a little bit shorter by defualt and had height presets that are a little bit different, but enough that you feel. like you're customizing sims. and then they would only really have to tweak the animations a little bit. to make them work. also i'm just now learning that luumia does the official trailers that's so cool???
Thank you for mentioning it’s a mod in the caption! It’s literally so annoying when RUclipsrs don’t do that & pretend it’s a new base game feature for clicks
I think pre-teen stage of life could be a cool feature. A sim becomes slightly smarter and encounters his/her first real tasks and responsibility. In this age kid absorb any information so fast and they start to reflect their parents. So I think it could influent further character traits and some additional perks maybe. So it's gonna be a hard time parenting that could add some challenge for the player.
I feel like instead of adding an entirely new life stage for preteens, they should add it onto the teen stage. So when you begin your life as a teen it immediately starts out as a younger teen( 13-15) and they’d look slightly older than children. Then, halfway through the life stage they grow into older teens (16-19) like the ones that are already in the game. But no changes should really occur between them as far as gameplay goes.
if we had a pre-teen update, it would include like - first crushes - middle school - maybe like a special social media for pre-teens - more modest clothes - responsibility
I also want more distinction between young adults and adults, they seem so similar. I'd love to have some more gameplay specific to young adults. Maybe with an elders update!😂
Yes, preset heights would be great, it would also help for storytelling when the kids inherit different heights and how they feel about it, maybe some mean interactions related to height... I dunno
I do agree that teens look too old. I, however, tend to have a lot of fun “aging down” teens in CAS. I give them pimples, braces, make their frames a bit smaller, give them bolder makeup and hair choices that I then change when they age up, etc. it’s really the only time I enjoy CAS.
I use the auto shorter teens mod and I still think we need preteens at least in sims 5. the jump from child to teen (even if teens are shorter) is too drastic. and the excuse that EA wouldn’t fully flesh out an additional life stage isn’t enough to justify them not doing it in my opinion. for preteens they could focus more on puberty, add a middle school, and something like the first crush mod but expanded a bit
As someone who primarily plays the famously glitchy Skyrim, minor visual bugs don't bother me. Great mod! If I weren't already on a 10+ minute save load time from cc I'd get it lol re: Preteens, I agree that I'd rather see the existing lifestates get expanded first. Toddlers having only a few skills and activities makes sense- they are toddlers after all- but children to this day have only four skills and a single aspiration for each, and after playing for a few years it feels like a slog to hurry up and get them into teens so they can go ahead and get to the skills/aspirations that actually ""matter"" (not to mention the extra gameplay of high school)
I agree, I would rather get updates on kids and teens rather then add that middle stage. If you really wanted to you could always download the pre-teen mod. That's what I use for an in-between stage and I'm content with just that.
This mod is awesome, it even allows for a way to make preteens if you make your teen sim as short as you can, then adjust their figure and head size and also make their cheeks (not the same as face width) much fuller than they were before. The process of doing this is so formulaic that I'm surprised EA hasn't added a "preteen" life stage. The only bummer is that at the shorter heights, the legs bend a little awkwardly and there's no way of shortening the arms either. Also, as mentioned in the video the animations are a little off due to the size difference, but overall it works! :)
Certain CC skin overlays (applied in the skin details section) can also help to make the sim's skin look fuller, smoother, and less shadowed. This is particularly useful in the eye area since some eye shapes from the game just naturally look older and have these shadows on the lid area even without any makeup on.
I feel like the compromise that the sims team could do is just have different set heights - like tall, medium short presets. it would still be more work and require more animations, but it wouldn't be as difficult or complex as a dynamic height slider would be
i prefer godjul's height slider mod bc it's tied to the feet size. so most sims in the game are automatically going to get new heights, u dont have to manually change any sims' neck size like this one. but omg does a height slider make the game just that much more polished
How they could make it so every interaction works would be for kissing: lips to lips. And those two points attract to each other (like magnents) instead of it being “at this height will be the kiss”
Im pretty sure this mod has been out there for along time ... Because i remember seing claire Siobhan have sims with different hights ... And i always wondered how ?
i used to have a similar mod in my game (whichever one it is where you adjust the height by changing the size of their feet) and i had a sim couple who were slightly different heights. just enough that when the taller one kissed the shorter one "on the cheek" he actually kissed his temple. it was adorable and i looked like the surprised pikachu meme the first time i saw it fr
BTW I have a similar mod in my game, but the slider is in the sim's feet. It also makes existing sims in your game different height automatically. Can't remember the name tho..
I love this mod but it made my game glitch and lag a lot, once I removed it it went smoothly. still amazing though, I loved giving all my sims different heights, especially the teenagers
The fact that teens are the same height as adults has bothered me so much since the game released, going from previous games where they had this sorted it was a real disappointment to see them take that away.
I resonantly messed around a lot with sliders in sims 3. And a lot of the times the sims would snap there hands to the thing they where trying to touch and it looks kinda the same here. So it seams that hand positioning inset hard coded into the game. Meaning that implementing more height options would work.
i would just love more realistic and dynamic body sliders in general. for example, the fat sliders only *expand* things like the arms and stomach and stuff, it’s not really that realistic how real bodies look. if anyone knows any good body slider mods please let me know!
i never thought of adding pre-teens in that way but like it makes sense, it would kind of just be filler. i just think it’s weird that i goes from a kid to teen hahab
There’s multiple height sliders out there, one of those mods set the Teen height to be shorter by default. And, I think it came out a few years after TS4 released. A few of the other height sliders don’t have the stiff leg or bendy leg issue Lumia’s mod has when making sims taller/shorter.
It is not necessary to wait for th4 to add length control. The same mod can be updated and made compatible with the game without any problems (Actually, I'm using a translator, so you might find errors in my words)
I’ve been using this mod for maybe a year now? And I absolutely love it! Yeah your sims clip and some animations look weird, but it really does add depth to your game!! (I know I basically just repeated everything Kayla said, but I wanted to renforce it!)
honestly tall mortimer and short bella make SO much sense like- I wish they added that fr because it really adds so much personality, like, perhaps, for example nancy is ex-model or something which adds a lot of dimension and sense for her to be mean because she spent her formative years in a highly competitive career
I'm surprised you haven't seen/mentioned this mod before, I've had it for maybe a year or so now and it was the first mod I went looking for when I got back into simming. you can also adjust the height at the sims feet by moving your mouse left or right over them. I'm excited you're bringing more attn to it though! 🥰😃
Honestly though when you think about it really makes sense that teens and young adults are the same height, because at a certain age lots of people stop growing. And therefore stay the same height.
height presets would be a good way for EA to incorporate height differences in the future without having to fully redo the animations for every possible height. It seems like it would be easier to have variations of the same animation for a few different heights than trying to make the animation scale to any possible height in that way. Hoping for some good stuff in the future!
With the way tech has advanced i dont think they would have to make individual animations, just use a tracking system from the hands to object for example. Like paralives said they're doing
@@rowanart4810 That’s true, it probably wouldn’t be as hard to implement that into project rene since the technology is already so much more advanced than it was when the sims 4 originally came out. Fingers crossed!
Yeah! Even if it was just 3 heights.
Preach! I’ve been saying this for years. Honestly, the only animations that have issues due to height are the romantic ones. Most animations still look okay even with the height difference.
So with presets it wouldn’t even be that many animations that need tweaking.
That's what I always figured, a few preset heights.
When rigging a character, you can define specific points where the characters will "glue" their hands to during certain animations. That's probably the reason why hugging and caressing their cheeks works well, because the shoulders and the cheeks are those defined points! :)
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I wonder if they could just do this with the kissing animation as well
Yeah the only issue there is how it's handled. Since the game doesn't really know how to handle it, it just stretches out the arms or dislocates them. So the hands are no matter what going to be in the right spot but the arms will either suddenly grow or just not look attached. You notice it with the hugging and Bella's arms suddenly being longer.
Wow the way you wrote that it seems like you have knowledge about 3D Blender and game development, am I right?
With that in mind, it's probably to do with the body customizations that can already be done. Cheeks can be thinner or fuller, shoulders can be slimmer or broader, etc. Height is not the only factor that can make those animations look wrong.
WE ALL NEEDED THIS
(first)
I already had this before the video lol
This mod exists since 2018 lmao
AGREED 👍
I play on console and wish so badly this was a true game feature!
i’ve always wanted a height slider - this adds so much more personality and customization for your sims!!
There’s been a height slider mod for a while like a few years. Clare Siobhan used this in the latter half in her dream house series.
This mod exists since 2018 lmao
@@lixiioreo yeah, i've been using that for years, it's from a modder name godjul1 on modthesims, completely free and less buggy than this one :P
@@lixiioreo i don’t like using mods bc i’m not all that tech savvy and i don’t want to mess something up - waiting for the base game to add height sliders
@@lanawinters1964 The base game will never have height sliders
I feel like in a literal life simulator we should just have a height slider in basegame
Which is why I'm glad Paralives is planning to bc it should be an obvious aspect to people's individuality
@@zombiedeatheater Yass (I’m on console so I don’t have mod access Oof)
It was honestly kind of sweet to see Mortimer kiss Bella's forehead and Bella snuggled into his chest. 🥰❤️
My favourite couple
That looked kinda different for me
She legit kissed his chest
But isn’t Mortimer a horrible husband in Sims lore?
the height slider mod is such a need for me and my gameplay. it really adds difference and more levels to the game
FR
all the females are going to make male sims 6ft+
@@BearOnKeys huh😭
@@BearOnKeys idk about everyone else but im making all the women 6ft+ and all the men under 5'4
@@heckypants literally same
Honestly if they did do height sliders officially, it’d be so funny if sims could do height-specific interactions, because that would make some really funny and more realistic interactions.
Edit: not mean interactions, that’s not okay
omg yes like the parenthood teasing between children/teens
if they added attraction and sims can be attracted to certain heights
"Talk down to" for a sim talking to a shorter one. Depending on how big the height difference is, the shorter person could have a mad moodlet because the person isn't even that much taller.
I liked this idea.
@spam5373you literally have the "mean" tool option so I guess this could also be a part of that?
i’ve always wanted preteens because of the HUGE jump from child to teen and of course the lack of height change from teens to adults
There is actually a pre-teens mod you might want to try.
same, sims go from looking 8 to 18 it’s literally so jarring
Even the preteen mod they're still really tall for being like 12-14. Atleast with the height slider you can make the parents a tad taller and the preteen- teen a tad shorter. To give an illusion of a smaller preteen. I really want ea to just make a preteen stage
fr tho
for anyone who wants pre-teens, the pre teen mod is AMAZING!! It makes preteens shorter and makes them go to middle school (: they also go through different puberty centered situations
I love tjat mod! I have them go to high school but I use the chose the high school mates and then only have other pree teens in their class. Super cool!
who made that mod?
Too bad I can't download mods because I got 4 trojans once😢
(I still have the height slider mod and always testing,Always move objects on,and always full edit mode but thats pretty much it)
There is an automatic shorter teens mod on mod the sims that makes the teens automatically shorter than YA and A sims. You can also choose between two heights so they can be a little shorter and even shorter. And animations are fine because all teens are the same height and there isn’t clipping with adult sims either.
Thank you! This is exactly what I want!
That feels like a perfect compromise, I think EA should have something like this in the official game
I do hope Sims 5 adds height sliders. I think it would make a world of difference. Luumia is a very creative modder. Their body hair mod is amazing.
Yeah, but I just hope that sims won’t be crazy high. Like maybe a few. But I want sims to be relatively normal. Yk? 😅
Shame that Sims 5 probably won't exist... not in a decade, at least.
@joshuazimmerman5182 but I lit know crazy tall people 😭
As a 4’9” 22 yr old, I can’t even begin to express how much the ability to change your sims height would mean to me!
I love how in so many of the mod videos, Kayla already has the game open and needs to close it first. I know she's probably just trying to info you you need to close your game first, but I love the idea that she just literally never stops playing lol
I’d honestly prefer a teens refresh over the babies refresh. I (wrongly) theorized that because we had such a long gap of packs before High School Years that this must have meant they were doing a teen overhaul and they would finally look different, but unfortunately that wasn’t the case. I’m still optimistic though
HIGHLY agree with your point about preteens. We really just need a teen overhaul tbh. In Sims 5 I'd really like to see something similar to gradual aging for teens? "Teen" kinda covers alot of ground, so maybe as you progress through the teen lifestage their height and interaction options could change? For the latter is imagine it'd be similar to how toddlers interactions change based on their skills.
Yes! They could actually go through 'puberty' and how far along they are in it will affect how they look, in addition to other puberty stuff like acne and body hair and menstrual cycles (I know that those stuff exists in modes and some of the packs, but I really want puberty to be a proper thing, like a random bar somewhere, or a teen-specific skill, or maybe something similar to the fury system in werewolf) having them grow in hight based on how close they are to YA is the most realistic
@fruity4820 Maybe the body hair and menstrual cycle could be toggleable? Blood makes me squeamish and I don't like my sims having body hair 😭
I used to play w height sliders but it can make some interactions look awkward if the sims are too tall or too short :/ like when they kiss other sims or interact w certain objects it looks glitchy lol
Lol yup, that's the only reason why I didn't like the height mod. The animations look weird when sims were too short or tall
That and the fact that some heights tend to make your Sims' feet disappear were the main reason I ultimately stopped using this mod. It's a shame. Because if it works, it adds so much to the game.
I also found this mod recently and it's a must-have for me! Something about seeing sims at different heights adds more realism and personality for me 😋
Been using this mod for years and it's great for adding more variety to my sims and I also used Luumia's body hair way before the high school dlc.
this is something that i really wanted. like you said we arent all the same size. im 6'4 so naturally i am taller than "most" people so when i play games that allow me to create myself i want to make my character taller. it adds to the immersion.
Same! I always want a taller sim to represent myself :D
same, but 5' instead. my sim is weird when tall
I'm 5ft 8, so im tallish for a girl. My bffs growing up were 4ft 11 and 5ft 2. Couldn't hear half of what they said 🤣🤣
@@KatelynxXxAngel 5'8 is definitely tall for a girl. that's like the perfect height though, my mother is 5'9. i had one ex that was 5'8 the rest have been like 5'5 max. lol my back already hurts, but when i got to lean over or bend down to talk/hear someone it sucks.
@@BigDaddyStev-O I'm 6"2 (when I stand up straight - i essentially gave myself Scoliosis as a kid/teen just trying to blend in). All my early BF were short, and the backache is real!
I agree I think it sound better updating the kids and teens rather than adding pre teens. I relation to the height slider I'm still a bit concerned abuot the caress cheek-animation if it was the lower person caressing the taller person's cheek - it might be that the lower person would stick their hand into the taller persons chest or something 😅 but all in all like you I wouldn't mind some wierd looking animations, it's still a nice feature, that I might try out when I play some more 😊 Thanks for your rambling content, I love the autenticity, don't ever change ✨✨💛💛
I mean sims 4 teens are like 16/17/18, and you don't grow after that so them being noticeably shorter than adults would be weird.
@@LangkeeLongkee exactly! honestly the only way to make it not seem weird IS by adding pre teens (12-15 yrs old ish even tho 15 year olds are alr teens), and by changing the childs age from 12 ish to 6-9 ish
@LangkeeLongkee you don't stop growing until like 18-20, which is an adult. On top of that, maybe we'd rather younger teens, since you start being a teen at 13, not 16.
@jeriel preteen is 10-12, since theyre PRE teenage years. Teens start at 13, hense the teen suffix at the end of each number there. It doesn't make sense for preteens to include teen ages. Honestly, the kids are already like 12 yr old size, they just act like 6-8 yr olds. An update that makes both teens and kids a little younger looking would be the best option
@@theekatspajamas I only said 15 cuz u still look young for the most part at that age, they should just add younger teens around 14 ish or maybe 12 ish and then make kids younger
Nancy being really tall is just perfect😭
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Sorry I just-😂 she radiates material girl /golddigger energy tbh. And geoffrey Radiates The type of husband to cheat or Be abusive. Idk😗
Nice thing with the height slider is that is don't just stretch or squash the Sim, it also have a proportional effect on their girth. Taller Sims are broader and smaller Sims are thinner.
What would be GREAT would be for the Sims actually progressively grow up in the infant, toddler, kid and teen life stage.
i hope that some time in the future they actually put this in the real game because it just makes sense
I've had this slider mod installed since I started playing and it's a game changer. if your really short sim has a child with another really short sim, their child has a chance of being short as well, same with really tall sims. it's honestly so much fun
I don't feel like using animations as an excuse for the sims team to not give us something we literally had in past games is valid. Don't want to sound like a Karen, but making animations is part of their job and what we pay for.
I actually want preteens for the whole middle school aspect. In previous sims games, we have never gotten the full picture of what life is like. It's nice now that we will have essentially, newborns, infants, toddlers, kids, teens, young adults, adults and elderly. We almost have all of the life stages we really go through. Adding preschoolers and preteens would kind of finalize the remaining gaps we have.
@@mayacarraway8953 I think once a toddler reaches level 4 in every skill besides potty, they should enroll in preschool.
@ yes I agree
i am FOREVER amazed by how talented some people are. i love this!!!!
this is one of my absolute favorite mods, has been a must have for me for a while because it’s really fun to make them different heights as it gives them more personality
There was a height mod for Sims 2. I don’t mind as much that all the adults are the same size, but it really bothers me that there’s so little distinction between teens and adults in Sims 4.
SO happy you're doing more videos about mods, simsie
I don’t really want preteens but if they implemented height presets, I’d love to see a random growth spurt feature where the kid gets taller but not quite teen height yet at the end of childhood to ease the transition into a teenager! I feel like going from 8 to like fifteen is pretty jarring lol
A pre-teen life stage would be an amazing Idea. Specifically in relation to puberty. There could be like a first period achievement thing, and like moodlets for like growing hair and voice cracks. They could add like a first day of high school thing in there, and like mood swings. Maybe a first crush thing as well. They already have a first kiss thing in the sims , but they could change it slightly for the pre-teens. Of Couse they'd have to add middle school which would change basically nothing except saying the sims are going somewhere else, but still. And best of all, they could do more than the kids, but less than the teenagers, so that it seems like way less drastic of a switch between ages.
also i gotta say i love the fact that the sims has so many amazing creators that they end up working for the actual game , i dont know a lot of other video games that is that much accessible
finally i can make don lothario the shortest man in town
😂😂😂 so true
that would be the funniest thing ever😭
I haven't used mods or CC at all in the past- not for any major reason, I'm just lazy- but this mod might just be the one that makes me start using them because it really is a good change. And seeing the way the animations changed isn't much of a problem to me. I find things like the portraits and incorrect kissing animations to be funny, honestly.
Have a look at the Pre-Teen mod
Its a fine temp fix for teenagers depending on the player
Honestly as someone who is five feet tall in a world made for people who are at least 5'5, the fact that short sims don't fit properly in the portrait thing and u can only see the top half of their head is realistic.
Sims 4 just needs to add a height slider next to the weight and built one, it would be so much better..
I like that teens are the same size, ts4 teens are like 16/17 so them being the same height actually makes sense, if teens looked younger that would be fine or if we had preteens that would nice too because Sims currently go from like 8 to 16 and that makes no sense.
I got so excited by the thumbnail
And then i saw the title
Preteen life stage could be so cool though. they could make the sims have more emotion bombs, different quirks as well as maybe having more hobbies they pick up and they can have them start going through puberty through that life stage!
I’ve had this height slider mod for a while now, and I love it!
I just wish that it worked for children and toddlers too-
Redhead sims actually has some sliders for that, as well as one for aduts/teens. I actually prefer that one since the legs don't bend weirdly on short sims, but you can use it together with Luumia's since they're in different places.
I wish children and teens would gradually gain height instead of magically grow taller when they age up. This mod proves that the clothes are not problem for the different heights.
this just really reminded me how cool it would be to have dwarfism rep in the sims
I love height sliders! The one I use is feet based, and I’ve noticed that it forces npc sims to have variating heights because of this. Brant Hecking is SO TALL 😂
i feel like proper height differences would be possible in ts4 if they made teens a little bit shorter by defualt and had height presets that are a little bit different, but enough that you feel. like you're customizing sims. and then they would only really have to tweak the animations a little bit. to make them work.
also i'm just now learning that luumia does the official trailers that's so cool???
Thank you for mentioning it’s a mod in the caption! It’s literally so annoying when RUclipsrs don’t do that & pretend it’s a new base game feature for clicks
I think pre-teen stage of life could be a cool feature.
A sim becomes slightly smarter and encounters his/her first real tasks and responsibility. In this age kid absorb any information so fast and they start to reflect their parents. So I think it could influent further character traits and some additional perks maybe. So it's gonna be a hard time parenting that could add some challenge for the player.
why is watching the sims when you play it make it look- BETTER-
I imagine making all the animations for all the heights would be a major pain in the butt.
And the fact that modders still do it 😭 they are lifesavers
@@potatohead785 they're literally not...
I feel like instead of adding an entirely new life stage for preteens, they should add it onto the teen stage. So when you begin your life as a teen it immediately starts out as a younger teen( 13-15) and they’d look slightly older than children. Then, halfway through the life stage they grow into older teens (16-19) like the ones that are already in the game. But no changes should really occur between them as far as gameplay goes.
if we had a pre-teen update, it would include like
- first crushes
- middle school
- maybe like a special social media for pre-teens
- more modest clothes
- responsibility
There is a preteen mod
@@AutisticKittyStar i play on console 😊
I also want more distinction between young adults and adults, they seem so similar. I'd love to have some more gameplay specific to young adults. Maybe with an elders update!😂
Yes, preset heights would be great, it would also help for storytelling when the kids inherit different heights and how they feel about it, maybe some mean interactions related to height... I dunno
I love your sweater sooo much Kayla!!!
I'M 143CM AND I'VE WANTED THIS SINCE I FIRST GOT THE SIMS BC IT'S SO WEIRD TO SEE ME AS TALL AS OTHER PEOPLE I KNOW AIDBSIDBJD
I do agree that teens look too old. I, however, tend to have a lot of fun “aging down” teens in CAS. I give them pimples, braces, make their frames a bit smaller, give them bolder makeup and hair choices that I then change when they age up, etc.
it’s really the only time I enjoy CAS.
The fact that the person now works for the Sims gives me high hope that there will be official sliders either in sims 4 or 5.
i wish there weren't so many issues with animations so this could be a part of the actual game, i think it would add so much to customization
i use CC religiously and had absolutely no idea LUUMIA works for EA now, thats so cool
I use the auto shorter teens mod and I still think we need preteens at least in sims 5. the jump from child to teen (even if teens are shorter) is too drastic. and the excuse that EA wouldn’t fully flesh out an additional life stage isn’t enough to justify them not doing it in my opinion. for preteens they could focus more on puberty, add a middle school, and something like the first crush mod but expanded a bit
There is a preteen mod that had all of those things
@@AutisticKittyStar I know but I’m saying we need it officially in the game for sims 5 at least
There’s also a mode when you can change the body type of a child!
I miss when Luumia modded. Dude is just the best
As someone who primarily plays the famously glitchy Skyrim, minor visual bugs don't bother me. Great mod! If I weren't already on a 10+ minute save load time from cc I'd get it lol
re: Preteens, I agree that I'd rather see the existing lifestates get expanded first. Toddlers having only a few skills and activities makes sense- they are toddlers after all- but children to this day have only four skills and a single aspiration for each, and after playing for a few years it feels like a slog to hurry up and get them into teens so they can go ahead and get to the skills/aspirations that actually ""matter"" (not to mention the extra gameplay of high school)
Have you unchecked the "show mods at startup option"? I've heard that that helps with load time.
I agree, I would rather get updates on kids and teens rather then add that middle stage. If you really wanted to you could always download the pre-teen mod. That's what I use for an in-between stage and I'm content with just that.
Like you have saved my life i was going to kms but you made me better just wanted you to know
This mod is awesome, it even allows for a way to make preteens if you make your teen sim as short as you can, then adjust their figure and head size and also make their cheeks (not the same as face width) much fuller than they were before. The process of doing this is so formulaic that I'm surprised EA hasn't added a "preteen" life stage. The only bummer is that at the shorter heights, the legs bend a little awkwardly and there's no way of shortening the arms either. Also, as mentioned in the video the animations are a little off due to the size difference, but overall it works! :)
Certain CC skin overlays (applied in the skin details section) can also help to make the sim's skin look fuller, smoother, and less shadowed. This is particularly useful in the eye area since some eye shapes from the game just naturally look older and have these shadows on the lid area even without any makeup on.
There is a preteen mod
I love your vids! You're amazing!!
I feel like the compromise that the sims team could do is just have different set heights - like tall, medium short presets. it would still be more work and require more animations, but it wouldn't be as difficult or complex as a dynamic height slider would be
i prefer godjul's height slider mod bc it's tied to the feet size. so most sims in the game are automatically going to get new heights, u dont have to manually change any sims' neck size like this one. but omg does a height slider make the game just that much more polished
How they could make it so every interaction works would be for kissing: lips to lips. And those two points attract to each other (like magnents) instead of it being “at this height will be the kiss”
Im pretty sure this mod has been out there for along time ...
Because i remember seing claire Siobhan have sims with different hights ... And i always wondered how ?
I feel like Bella Goth is taller than Mortimer, at least in my head that’s how I see it.
I was thinking that at first, like gomez & Morticia However not sure now
There was already a way to change the height of the sims from clicking their neck but they updated it I guess
i used to have a similar mod in my game (whichever one it is where you adjust the height by changing the size of their feet) and i had a sim couple who were slightly different heights. just enough that when the taller one kissed the shorter one "on the cheek" he actually kissed his temple. it was adorable and i looked like the surprised pikachu meme the first time i saw it fr
BTW I have a similar mod in my game, but the slider is in the sim's feet. It also makes existing sims in your game different height automatically. Can't remember the name tho..
I love this mod but it made my game glitch and lag a lot, once I removed it it went smoothly. still amazing though, I loved giving all my sims different heights, especially the teenagers
The fact that teens are the same height as adults has bothered me so much since the game released, going from previous games where they had this sorted it was a real disappointment to see them take that away.
I resonantly messed around a lot with sliders in sims 3. And a lot of the times the sims would snap there hands to the thing they where trying to touch and it looks kinda the same here. So it seams that hand positioning inset hard coded into the game. Meaning that implementing more height options would work.
omg i have been using forge for mods for 2 years now and i just found out how easy modding the sims is XD thanks this mod is so good
i would just love more realistic and dynamic body sliders in general. for example, the fat sliders only *expand* things like the arms and stomach and stuff, it’s not really that realistic how real bodies look. if anyone knows any good body slider mods please let me know!
I experience Sims 4 teenagers, young adults, and adults, as 'the same age'. Thank you for the fun video!
i never thought of adding pre-teens in that way but like it makes sense, it would kind of just be filler. i just think it’s weird that i goes from a kid to teen hahab
There’s multiple height sliders out there, one of those mods set the Teen height to be shorter by default. And, I think it came out a few years after TS4 released.
A few of the other height sliders don’t have the stiff leg or bendy leg issue Lumia’s mod has when making sims taller/shorter.
This is my favorite mod
I’ve had this mod in my game for like 2 months and I can’t live without it now lol
really want the sims to add this for the people who can't download mods 😭😭
I think in the pre-teens they could add puberty
It is not necessary to wait for th4 to add length control. The same mod can be updated and made compatible with the game without any problems (Actually, I'm using a translator, so you might find errors in my words)
I’ve been using this mod for maybe a year now? And I absolutely love it! Yeah your sims clip and some animations look weird, but it really does add depth to your game!! (I know I basically just repeated everything Kayla said, but I wanted to renforce it!)
If there’s one thing I can count on, it’s Kayla saying she’s going to link a video down below and it will never be linked down below 😂
i read the title and got hyped and cheered and then looked at mod and cried
Maybe this mod author should add this here mod to the game
honestly tall mortimer and short bella make SO much sense like-
I wish they added that fr because it really adds so much personality, like, perhaps, for example nancy is ex-model or something which adds a lot of dimension and sense for her to be mean because she spent her formative years in a highly competitive career
two hours and already custom subtitles? this is fantastic
I don't know why, but it really made me giggle to see Lilsimsie's twitter feed showing the UK Premier League 🤣
I'm surprised you haven't seen/mentioned this mod before, I've had it for maybe a year or so now and it was the first mod I went looking for when I got back into simming. you can also adjust the height at the sims feet by moving your mouse left or right over them. I'm excited you're bringing more attn to it though! 🥰😃
I have used this mode for years and I love it never taking it out of my game 😊
Honestly though when you think about it really makes sense that teens and young adults are the same height, because at a certain age lots of people stop growing. And therefore stay the same height.