GRID Legends - PlayStation 5 vs Xbox Series X/S - Digital Foundry Tech Review
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- Опубликовано: 20 сен 2024
- GRID Legends is an arcade racer you might possibly have overlooked... but it's something of an arcade racing gem that delivers on all current-gen consoles, even at 120Hz! Oliver Mackenzie has all of the details here on PlayStation 5, Xbox Series X and Xbox Series S - along with the breakdown compared to Xbox One X, the cream of the crop from the last generation.
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The fact that they're still using the EGO engine (and have been doing so for the last 15 years) really shows how well optimized, built and scalable it is. Especially considering that the system requirements in the PC ports remained relatively modest.
@@nunogloop3386 Was Respawn Entertaintment forced to use it? No stop with this useless hate on Frostbite and Codemasters will be just handled like Respawn by EA. EA will just provide more budget to work with
@@ashar8192 EA are certainly no angels. But for me, the hatred towards them often goes too far.
On the subject of the Ego Engine. In my opinion, it could do with an update.
@@nunogloop3386 this kinda makes me sad about Criterion dropping the Chameleon engine, games like NFS HP2010 and MW2012 still look much better and smoother than the later frostbite NFS entries IMO despite being a whole gen older
@@ashar8192 - You do know what EA did to Respawn with Titanfall 2 right!?
Talk about wrong!
LOL Call of Duty running on the Quake 3 Arena engine in 2021
This game is like V8 Supercars (Toca Racedriver). With all assists off, this game is pure adrenaline.
Beautiful graphics, epic crashes, enjoyable simcade physics & phenomenal weather.
There's a lot of competition in the racing scene and Codemasters does have the F1 license so that's their perennial showpiece. They've also got a good mix of arcade and sim in the Dirt and Dirt Rally series. It's the street racing scene where you can get the most creative but obviously you're in the Forza Horizon, Gran Turismo category. Is it just me or has this game not been really promoted?
Unfortunately no. They marketing was by via twitter and other racing games content creators on YT. Not as large as GT7 and FH5. On top of that they released this game on the same day as Elden Ring and one week before GT7.
Bad timing for the release. Going against GT7, forbidden West, elden ring.... I'm not sure what their strategy was.
@@REDSIX ironic that Grid Legends was solid release from day one while I’m still waiting for performance patches on ER and HFW. GT7 is dead to me after their post-launch crippling of the game.
@@GameChronicles I'm still having a lot of fun with GT7. That game is going to be for the long haul.
Code master also owns the license to Fia Rallycross now hope they make a game based on that leaks say dirt 6 will be called dirt 6/dirtfest
This has really raised my impression of this game.
And it's nice to take a moment to look at someone doing impressive work in the pre-RT paradigm.
This stuff can still look really great.
Lol me too this video made it look pretty awesome
@@ramonandrajo6348 what?
@@Jayanky They are talking about the cut scenes it is true it's a case again of White man bad lol . It's so obvious too.
Wow this game looks beautiful. And doesn’t have online DRM and microtransactions? I’m sold
Yep. It's always an eyeroller when people say "Sony is charging GT7 like an EA game lol" when EA hasn't been like that since 2015, with games like Grid standing in sharp contrast when launching side by side like this.
@@Rocksteady72a ea is still like that, what are u smoking?
@@johndodo2062 I've just been looking at any of their games these past years. Outside of EA Sports, they've been fantastic when it comes to respecting players and avoiding exploitive microtransactions (or microtransactions entirely).
It has Denuvo on PC, something that Codemasters never used before being bought by EA.
@@ZinhoMegaman Oh no, anti-cheat on pc...
The best thing that Grid Legends has and GT7 don’t, Fun. And it looks better, more stuff on the track, more life with the Crowd etc. Accept it Fanboys. I love GL.
Looks a lot more fun compared to GT7, no Microtransaction bullshit!
And no always online bs
and its published by ea.
This is a great video, Ollie. Lots of detail and a nice compact runtime. Keep up the good work!
Ollie ?
Seems to have pretty good optimization, nice to see what the series s can do compared to one x when devs tale their time.
Enjoyed it a lot, way underrated game! This is what GRID 2019 should have been
Enjoyed it too!
Enjoyed this infinitely more than GT7. No online single player or evil micro transactions.
And then releasing an update for GT7 making it even Harder to grind! . This on top of the fact that it's a SEVENTY Pounds game.
Chad Codemasters: $60 Single player full player :)
Virgin Polyphony: Can't even maintain servers for a $70 game with online DRM and gacha like microtransactions
GT7 isn't even worth 20 dollars. Shit game pro max
@Conqueror Ryu please wait it will hit ps plus very soon. In terms of purchase, the game has zero content offline so wait till it's 10 or 5 dollars
@@Conqueror-Ryudon’t listen to the BS. Get GT7. Especially now that it’s in VR. Unless you like arcade type racing like this and horizon.
AMD's artificial scaling technology is supported on PlayStation 5 ,Xbox series x/s & switch. Hopefully developers take advantage of it and boost over all performance & Fidelity. Which I'm sure many gamers are delighted to have more added effeincy in over performance and visual quality in their games.
They did not mention PS on AMD's official announcement. PS does have access to v1.0 but this is 2.0
I've always had more enjoyment in Grid games then others racers. They're just fun to play.
@@seanmcbay Ignore him.
@@ramonandrajo6348 is challenging your manhood?
Rubbish
Sony are you watching? this is how you make a racing game instead of what you put out with GT7
They’re NOT! This game is leaps and bounds funner than gt7 and it’s still a little slow!
???
Bro play gt7 now its sooooo much better than grid legends
Based on my deception with GT7, I think I found a good racing game here. Not a real racing simulator, but a honest and beautiful one.
A similar title to GRID Legends in terms of style is Project Cars 3. Obviously it has its problems too, and controversy over turning a sim series into a sim-cade racer. But it's very similar to GRID but with more cars, tracks and more realistic driving
Actually going from GT7 to this game feels refreshing
Your deception?
At least you can play it OFFLINE
Sharp visuals excellent lighting good car model damage. This is a great game.
they forgot gameplay and good physics... most important things in a racing game
@@pablo3558 Exactly!
Car damage isn't good. It's disappointing. Especially regarding former games!
I would go as far as call all realistic racers boring. You wont understand until you play asphalt 9. No matter which control option you use.
@CodeBreaker those who cant afford modern games running PC
At 00:58 seconds: "Dirt Legends" ☺️ hell yeah, I'd play that!
I honestly don’t understand why Dirt 5 is praised so much by Digital Foundry for its visuals. I played it on PC on max settings and tbh the visuals were meh, especially coming off of playing Forza Horizon. Am I the only one thinking this way about the game’s visuals?
Forzas visuals were a joke. The imagery, foliage ans background texture maps were 2d. Absolutely stunning floor maps that were static and didn't react to anything the vehicle did. Man talk about people really letting MS slide with that BS
But the same goes for Grid 2019. I don't know why it's so praised in this video. Both from the technical and the gameplay side...
@@AnImperfectSoul wsit what?! Are we talking about Forza Horizon 5?
@@AnImperfectSoulthere's no way you're talking about FH5
@@AnImperfectSoul Smoking is bad for your brain man
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Excellent video and narration as usual John. GRID Legends is without question, the best racing game to come out in the last couple years IMHO. People love their Gran Turismo but this is low key the better game. It's arcadey but very fun and the car handling....much like my beloved and criminally underrated GRID 2.....is sublime, particularly with a Direct Drive FFB wheel. It's a gorgeous game and very well optimized, and has a nice long career mode that's well done. If you guys are on the fence, show Codemasters your support and BUY. THIS. GAME!!!!!
Chad Codemasters:
$60 game
No microtransactions
Single player
Full Package
GT7 should be ashamed.
Sad to see this game forgotten... Seems great.
thats what happens when your game is released on the same day as elden ring
@@matthewmiskiewicz8357 Not just that, it was one week before GT7 as well. Even though it's cross-platform unlike GT7, somehow this franchise has much more fans on playstation than xbox, with 73% of console sales on playstation in uk. And PC sales is mediocre at best, concurrent player count on steam only topped at 455.
Glad to see this game forgotten
Always loved the GRID series. I remember playing on the X360 San Francisco level with muscle cars and never has a race felt so intense with the jumps and aggressive AI, loved it! GRID is a solid series but I would also like to see something new in racing from Codies.
Most underrated racing game of 2022!
The game is actually awesome and worth the price! Tons of stuff to do.
No point in buying it though as you get 10 hours free on EA play.
@@DEVILTAZ35 thought the same thing played the 10 hr trial you only get access to part of the game including the first 5 story missions. Bought it after the trial have 50 hrs in and still a ton more content to unlock 👌
@@DEVILTAZ35 recommend playing on the hardest difficulty you can with assists off to get the most out of it
If you skip the awful virtue signalling cut scenes anyway.
There is no support for Xbox series X in the free trial or am I missing something?
Enjoying the game speed mixed with really sharp and smooth graphics.
Last gen graphics
@@rayyanamir8560 maybe get a Next Gen console as it looks phenomenal on the PS5.
@@ramonandrajo6348 pity that you’ve commented this multiple times and no one cares 💀
@@aussieknuckles PS5 is current generation not next generation clown. PS4 is last generation.
@@ZackSNetwork you really insulting me over that, Wow. Get a life.
The comments are really fun to read again. Mostly just fanboys arguing about which console the game looks or runs better on.
Grow up for once...
Well the video is titled PS5 vs Xbox... I know what you are saying tho...
I really fear for Codemasters going forward as over the past two plus decades they have made a name for themselves on making some of the most solid racing games that are a good mic of arcade and ralism. They managed to stay relevant where other British publishers from the 8-bit micro days faded away long ago or are operating on such a small scale you would be surprised they were still around. I just feel they may end up like Rare and basically lose their identity and all the staff that made them successful.
Yes, too true! I loved their ‘realistic spectacle’ games from the late 00s to the early 10s.
Not sure about that as EA made it clear they bought codies so they could continue to release racing games . It doesn't sound like they want them in other projects.
They've been lacking part of their identity since the departure of the Oliver Twins decades ago.
"Fear they may end up like Rare and basically lose their identity and staff that made them successful".
They're a completely different company than the one that released 8bit games. That staff is looooong gone. And their success was forged on all their staff along the way, not any particular eras staff.
Try 40 years plus! They have been successful at what they do for over 40 years! As you said yourself they go back the 1980s and a very successful 8bit era.
This is ASMR for racing fans, and a great antidote for the other things that are happening in the genre.
One X really should have an option for 4K 30fps also, it's cpu/gpu combination is much better suited for that target.
u can tell there's some influence from the driveclub devs that went on to work for codemasters, for example when it comes to the rain
I'm still debating whether that Driveclub rain has ever been beaten by any game
@@unbearifiedbear1885 true, altho mods for assetto corsa came close
@@unbearifiedbear1885 don't think so. Driveclub was an amazing game and still is. Sadly stupid Sony shut down their best first party studio. Just imagine a Motorstorm with current tech on PS5... THAT would have been a system seller, no doubt about it.
@@joggometer5393 That would make me buy a PS5, to be perfectly honest.
@@joggometer5393 Great comment and references to the Motorstorm franchise. If Sony had of stuck by them, they could have been Sony's Turn 10, but sadly...
I almost went to work for them, had an interview at their Frodsham studio around 2000, but went to work for Infogrames/Gremlin as a designer as opposed to an associate producer at their place. They were on the Wirral, just over the water from Liverpool where I live today.
P.S
Have you tried the Bikes dlc on Driveclub? Highly recommended!
Forza Horizon 5 in the 60fps mode runs at a dynamic 4k using high and ultra settings. I rarely drops below that resolution. Yet this game drops to a lower re4solution on the Xbox Series X and has worse frame rate?
Bro, it's NATIVE 4K/30 and NATIVE 4K/60 in both modes on XSX. FH5 I mean.
Yes but FH5 has really bad pop in during performance mode. It is a fantastic game but I really really really hope they address lod management in performance mode at some point. It detracts from an otherwise wonderful game.
FH5 has a custom system in place, it drops visual settings before ever dropping resolution on performance mode, so it effectively holds native 4K most of the time.
Honestly tho, I can tell the drop in visual settings coming from quality mode, specially LOD management.
@@andyward8430 yeah the pop in is too much and I’m not sold I’m giving too much to the gamer in terms of cars right away. It just kills the progression and gets boring fast. Also it is 1600p-2160p in performance mode on the series x.
@@gonzaloxd2 What does what you type have to do with what I typed? My point was Forza Horizon 5 runs better and looks better than this game, yet this game runs at a worse frame rate and lower resolution. So clearly the developers of this game are either lazy or just aren't as good at the developers of Forza Horizon 5
I think I would enjoy this one more than GT7, I struggle with realistic simulators and the always online feature let me down a little bit. I don't mind if it doesn't look hyper realistic but if it feels good and looks nice then it's perfect for me.
Has anyone else noticed the front wheels don't turn in any of the replays in any of these racing games? There's plenty of turns yet we always see the wheels facing straight forward, why is that?
I love me some fun arcade racing and am also glad to hear the 120hz mode holds up in races. I'm planning on getting an LG C1 soon and will likely pick up GRID Legends on sale.
I would also LOVE to see NFS Heat get a 60fps update (and a toggle to disable film grain). The Crew 2 is getting 60fps this summer. EA needs to get on it!
So happy I got this game! Looks amazing on PS5 with my LG OLED!
Great on Series S
Playing this on my Xbox Series X atm since it came out on Game Pass. Looks beautiful at 120 Hz and it's surprisingly sharp. I didn't even realize it wasn't running at native 4K. When you move around your camera (left or right), the 120 Hz refresh just makes it very smooth and not headache inducing. I think it looks better than Gran Turismo 7, which I also play on the same TV.
with some of the destruction derby like races where cars get caught up together and grinding and crashing a lot, be ready for a lot more frame rate loss than you think and is talked about here.
My experience of the likes was happening with the Series X in 4K mode.
I'm not into racers but this even looks good to me. I like the balance between graphics and buttery smooth frame rates. A fine compromise for this sort of title.
I'd suggest just playing the 10 hr trial on EA play on Xbox though. 10 hours was plenty of time for me to enjoy it for free or it's plenty of time to see if it's something worth picking up in a sale seeing they have so many of those a year now :)
About the "new" Legends tracks, I'm pretty sure I've played Chicago, London and Dubai in previous Grid games.
Hey there. Grid Legends, got feel of speed and dynamic. It's brighter. Locations look more fun and not sad and boring like this in GT7. On Grid Legends locations look more beautiful and graphics is more cooler. Full of details, full of colors. Driving mechanics is fun. You can take it full arcade way of gameplay or more sim racing when you turn of driving helpers.
It's cross platforms. It's have a story mode, that reminds me of Capitan Tsubasa :) Feel real but have great emotions in it. Every race is fun. AI drivers feel so real that I have a feeling that they are a real players. This is the very best racing game ever created, period. It's fun, and games need to be fun :)
Game's looking pretty good. I have my plate kinda full at the moment but I'll probably give it a spin at some point in the future.
0:58 Dirt legends?
I think you got franchises crossed.
I guess nobody bothered to double check his video lmao
Lol this new guy is a joke
Actually he says DIRG Legends, not 'Dirt'! You know, GRID backwards. It's a stylish anagram! We're so lucky.
😂
@@JamieRobert_ i typically avoid being needlessly hostile towards new members of a team but this guy has 0 charisma or attention to detail, I've yet to see anything he's done that even I couldn't do myself
technical performances approach by Codies reminds me of Ridge Racer 6 and 7 back in the days
I rather play this than GT7.
totally different games and given the content gt7 offers i disagree, they don't satisfy in the same way to choose one over the other
PlayStation need VRR
nope bottleneck x need vrr cos bottleneck x cant keep locked fps in any game shown this year or last year
if you mean ps5 for screen tearing in this game and only in replay mode
then its no worry cos we wont be playing this trash anyway we got gt 7 way better game
supposed to come this spring but we still gotta have vrr TV's man, it's not a solution for everyone
@@kimpossible4450 no clown we rather want game devs to fix there performance issue.
only dumb people will get a 2000vrr tv to play games on console.
i have a 3080 pc but if i were u i would rather build a pc for 2000vrr tv lol
@@rinkumultani6515 😂🤡
Technically xbox had VRR since 2017 Which was a feature in the Xbox oneX And xbox one s
i didn't even try this game before because the last grid i played (autosport) didn't amuse me. but i was wrong. just tried it now on my series x and it is actually a super chill arcade racer that somehow feels cutting edge and nostalgic at the same time. felt like what a racing game for a dreamcast 4 would be like. i just wanted to see it, but i ended up playing for an hour. it's extremely polished, plays well (ngl the 120fps goes a long way to help that feel) and is just good old fun.
i missed this kind of game.
And what about the sound differences? Does the Xbox Series X version support Dolby Atmos?
Yes it does
I love the way Codies does racing lines, where speed is indicated by marker height - once you get in down, its so easy to "drive the track", instead of "driving the car"
Only just loses out to my favourite driver aid ever - the apex markers in GT7 - you don't even need braking zones or racing line, entry and exit point markers hit all the same bases
Is this Driveclub 2... really want a racer like driveclub. Are there any customizations to cars?
well driveclub devs did go to work for codemasters, so definitely seeing some of their influence/work here
It's the closest thing you can get to that.
An Arcade racer with cool cars and interesting street tracks and a decent handling.
Driveclub with licensed cars would be cool.
Thanks for this, I didn't realize I was playing in 120 FPS mode on my Series X until I watched this video, I'll have to switch my system settings and see how much difference I notice in the graphics playing at 60 FPS. I've played through quite a bit of the game in the 120 FPS mode and enjoyed it, found the handling via my Fanatec CWB v2.5 very good, so I'll probably keep playing in that mode, but nice to know about the option.
Maybe I’m blind, you’re free to tell me if I am…But, I’m honestly much more impressed with this games graphics than I am with GT7.
Imagine an utopia where every game is released like this. holy f...
0:56 Did he say "DIRT Legends"? 😁
Beautifully narrated and edited. I wonder why Oliver still hasn't been greenlit to make an appearance in the Weekly Directs.
This looks amazing. I don't want to pay the full price just to get it though. I'll happily get it on sale a couple months from now. I want to play grid 2 again and Legends outdoes it at every angle.
Just got it for 20 dollars on ps store
Finally a game releases in good condition with good performance!
I'd love it if all the fanboys commenting how their platform is better would just shut up and play Grid Legends. It's a great game.
"Dirt Legends" I think he got a bit confused.
Question for the Narrator. Have you really played Grid 2019?
Excellent looking? Realistic driving experience? What the hell?
Yeah got to agree that Legends has way better handling/racing experience than 2019 if you're using a Fanatec wheel.
Oh my god, is that dynamic car damage? I thought they said Grand Tourism couldn't handle it. XD
5:49 "bbBBBRRRrrroar has been changed as well" 😆
I’m truly not sure what to think of this game. I love the GRID series… i’ve actually played this game via the trail for many hours and love it, but can’t help think that this is simply a full price rehash of the prior game. With upgrades really only to trackside objects and maybe reflections. So I can’t support paying $60 for a very simple upgrade. I will probably pick it up when it’s $15, but even then I have an issue. Because it is essentially supporting paying full price for an upgrade that should’ve been free for the last game. No new tracks and even one less track exacerbates this very issue. They couldn’t even make one, five or 10 new tracks? Which screams that it was rushed to simply appease investors to have something to release to make the company some extra income.
Again, I love the series. But, probably won’t buy into it again until we see more tracks, more cars and a true next GEN update to the engine. Which, they should be easily able to do real time raytracing via global illumination and shadows at 60fps on a closed course racer. I’d also like to see day/night cycles and varying weather throughout each race. Which other racers are doing.
This is truly the closest thing we have to Project Gotham Racing. One of my favorite racers of all time. I just hope the developer takes a year off to update the engine and add more additional content… in tracks, cars and features.
Lmao EA is not losing sleep over you not paying $60.
The whole video shows its been a massive improvement from Grid 2019.
And at 5:31, it shows there are new tracks.
You typed an essay, because you don't like a game. 😭 Shower and touch some grass.
I have a similar feeling. I have also played the "demo". As an old fan of the Grid/Toca games, Legends simply offers me too little new to justify the price.
But I honestly don't understand why Grid 2019 is praised so much in this video. That was the weakest part of the series for me.
Was Dirt 5 excellent? That's a really bold opening statement.
They're strictly talking visually I believe
That first GRID was so damn good. I'm enjoying this one but it's just not the same...maybe just nostalgia talking I dunno.
I have a soft spot in my heart for that first GRID. It still is the best one. I'm slowly warming up to 2019.
This video already has more comments than the peak online of this game on Steam. I fear this might be the last game in GRID franchise, considering it's now under EA and EA already has their own arcade racing franchise.
Are you sure you have to set the PS5 to performance in the settings? For me, that's on auto and I only have to enable 120 for the mode to activate.
Well, after the latest deluxe edition update Series X has severe fps drops! I hope they fix it, otherwise another game with better fps on PS5
I despise when they don't put toggles like 120 fps in the game menus and make you change system settings. AWFUL. Other than that, I'm into this game.
With GT7 shenanigans and greed, I’ve been enjoying this instead. Great and fun game
Wow!! Looks better than GT7. And there’s actually propper vehicle damage.
And I’m sure there’s vehicle models that’s newer than 2017. GT7 is a strange game, feels unfinished.
Sony should consider allowing players to save settings for performance and refresh rate settings on a per-game basis. While I agree that it'd be ideal for Codemasters to just put these settings in the game and simply have them work, I feel as though these system-level settings are mentioned often enough that there must be some issue with devs outright bypassing the system-level settings.
You can save the settings on PS5.
@@dripfoe_3307 On a per-game basis?
Haha 0:55 You said DIRT Legends ^^ props for that
Glad I end up clicking on videos like this one. I'd never even heard of the game and didn't expect much, but wow! It's gorgeous!
Looks better than GT7
"Excellent Dirt 5"... Come on now! Dirt 5 was the most underwhelming boring physics Play-Doh lookin graphic Dirt game I have ever played.
And that's on PS5.
PlayStation players will like this an alternative to gt7
The handling physics looks quite bad. I did not enjoy Dirt 5 at all after playing Forza Horizon 5.
Every time I see that 365 GTB4, I just go purr. I haven't played a racing game since the PS2 days and this is really tempting.
Two minutes of comments, and most of them are stupid fanboys. How surprising.
Do not mistake with GT7: Grind Legend.
You said dirt legends at 0:59
I don't know how I feel about this after playing a ton of GT7 and Forza Horizon. I used to love GRiD and DiRT but it just feels repetitive.
Nothing matches in terms of damage model in this grid as compared to race driver grid
The game is really fun but you get 10 hours free on ea play so best to just do that rather than buy it at full price.
Car models look better than the new Forza Motorsport.
Game is actually good. Looks amazing on XSX. Enjoying it more than GT7 right now.
People who are wasting money on Gran Poopismo 7 should buy this
For me I already have Grid 2019 and this just doesn't offer much over that title. Maybe I will pick it up in a year or two when on a deep sale. I suppose if you haven't played Grid 2019 this would be a fun arcade racer.
I had the same reservations. Then I recently bought it in a Steam Sale. The story is nothing special. I think the career mode is a bit better than in 2019, but the most important thing for me is the handling. That has been greatly improved in my eyes. It's no longer as if you're driving on ice all the time. The curbs have also been made less awkward.
LOD breakup and pop in takes me out of the immersion in the PS5 version of Gran Turismo 7. It has gotten worse with the first patch post launch. And they dummed down those particle effects causing fps drops in the back of the pack rain races. I haven't played Grid since 1 and 2 and absolutely had a blast in those games with the simply fun physics at the time. May find myself picking this up later in the year.
0:58 in and you called it Dirt Legends.
Funny how no mention if vrr fixes any of the issues.....
This game looks WAY better than GT7
On graphics, yes, but on gameplay... It's like PC3. If you like better effects, less cars on the track and simplified gameplay, go for it.
racecar spelled backwards is racecar, spend your money on things that make sense.
Awesum review man
They really did a number on me with the previous Grid, so it's safe to say I won't be getting the deluxe edition of this game at launch.. No matter how good it is, I'll wait for a deep deep sale.
Just like me. I also got Grid 2019 full of anticipation at the time, because by then I had taken the series very much to my heart. Unfortunately, that was one big disappointment. But I recently played the "demo" via the Xbox Game Pass and was pleasantly surprised that the handling has improved. I will still wait for a discount, because it doesn't offer enough new features for the normal price...
5:49 Unloaded the clip
0:57 I WISH They made a game called DIRT LEGENDS!!!!
Does changing the xbox to 60hz diminish picture quality at all since it also switches back to hdmi 2.0?
Digital foundry feels lazy here.