The Try Guys HAD to Fire Ned for His Cheating…
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- Опубликовано: 3 май 2024
- Professional husband Ned Fulmer was fired by the Try Guys for cheating on his wife, Ariel. At first, letting Ned go for this reason might sound insane, but the Try Guys didn't have a choice. They had to fire Ned. Here's why.
This video is a commentary on the recent Try Guys drama involving the firing of Ned Fulmer.
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00:00-00:22: Introduction
00:22-01:28: Who Are The Try Guys?
01:28-02:27: What Happened?
02:27-04:02: Ned, Ariel, and the Guys' Statements
04:02-05:49: The Aftermath
05:49-08:22: WHY Was Ned Fired?
08:22-09:49: A Lesson in Branding
09:49-11:08: An Observation & Conclusion 
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He didn't really get fired for cheating, got fired for having a workplace relationship with a subordinate. That opens the company up to lawsuits about favoritism, unfair treatment, etc.
Largely yes, but cheating made for a much better title, haha
@@JimmyRobins true enough! This is the internet! Gotta feed the algorithm! Really in depth video tho, I appreciate that you waited and didn't just post a bunch of alegations.
I think they would of anyways, considering Ned didn't have anything else to offer, and it'd taint the branding.
@@antithoughtpolice7497 he really didn't have any other personality traits but "I love my wife".
and #metoo stuff....
❌: "he was fired for cheating"
✔️: "he was fired for tarnishing his own brand, and becoming a liability to the company."
I would even put the liability to the company first, idk why some people seem to be forgetting that part...
Yes
@@nanda_ tbh, of it was6 for that part, the man might not have been fired. 🤷🏾♀️ Might have just gotten a statement bout how he needed time off to "recenter his focus" or what ever.
Yeah, it's literally against company policy in most cases to date your subordinate/coworker.
It's not okay to cheat, ever, but it's also a liability because the consent could be up to scrutiny. All it takes is her saying it was because she felt pressured for her to completely destroy the ideas behind their workplace environment.
She could say that he held it over her, or that because he had power over her that she felt pressured into the relationship, and that could cause cancel culture to rip into the whole channel itself.
They also have to take into consideration, again, their monetization. If Bill Gates turned out to have been cheating on his spouse with a subordinate, people would be very upset with him, but ultimately, nobody would see the effect it has on his products.
Online however, when your entire brand is based on your wife, and you cheat on her, people begin to lose faith in your "characters", and can even stop watching the videos entirely, which would affect all of them.
In other words, get rid of the liability in a legal sense, and monetary sense.
He was fired for having a relationship with an insubordinate and opening the company up to the liability such a thing entails.
Ok but changing their name to The Tri Guys would actually be perfect that’s genius 😂
Yeah, but why changing anything if the name The Try Guys doesn't implicate any number of guys in it? 😅 With the current name they can introduce even 15 new guys if they want to
They paid millions to buzzfeed for the name, they definitely won’t change the name
@@LovelyAngel. true but when I told my bf about this (who has never heard of them) I asked him how many guys he thought they were and he said 3 , he was surprised when I revealed it was 4. So changing their name to Tri Guys would be perfect, as there now 3
Yup. Now we have the Tri Guys and the Tried Guy....
@@LovelyAngel. I know they don’t technically have to change it but I think it’s really funny 😂
There were times where Ned clearly portrayed fratty, immature jerk with questionable decision making skills. When you see Ariel, you see a classy, dignified, warm-hearted, kind, sensible woman.
She's very out of Ned's league.
i would always get random washes of a bad feeling over me whenever ned spoke. sometimes even just his presence made me feel weird watching lol
Yeah that’s true, I just think we all figured it was a video persona. That post about someone having their friend hit on my Ned seems to show it isn’t though.
Florida. Enough said.
When drunk he became his true self 🙃
Ariel was swept off her feet at a young age by a seemingly smart and passionate guy full of husband-potential, and she's ride or die in general in relationships, so. He got way too lucky with her. He deserves a life of failed, short-term, shallow relationships, not the lovely and sincere Ariel.
I mean even alex was out of dudes league, and thats not saying much
can we talk about keith immediately shutting down the "biological clock" comment? i'm the last person who would ever give a man credit for giving the bare minimum level of respect to women, but he walked the walk of shutting down toxic masculinity. their whole brand is being non threatening and he actually followed through. I think that speaks volumes about who he is as a person.
What’s the time stamp of this?
@@thatotherchannel7945 5:05
I do have to say that as someone who doesn't want kids, is 30 and loathe the "biological clock" argument used to push women to have kids they dont want based on a fear that they'll regret it when they're too old... It's small but I still really appreciated what Keith said to defend her.
Yes I appreciated this at the time too, he was incredibly quick cutting Ned off. It may have been about respecting women and/or being aware that they are Ranie's bosses, regardless he was self-aware it in a way Ned wasn't.
@@Dani-gf7cu Totally agreed, and Keith has seemed like the guy that shuts down uncool behavior before, even though Ned was the head of HR.
I think people took this personally because he projected seemingly healthy and adoring man and his deep appreciation of his wife and children. That was his whole personality and it was refreshing in this hookup culture era. An example for his younger fans of a loving family they can aspire to, if you wish. He absolutely deserves everything happening right now but at the same time Ariel and their children do not. They'll grow up and read/watch everything, sadly, and the embarrassment she must feel now. Maybe she's a better person than me, but I could never forgive something like that.
There’s also the fact that she was an employee of Ned, so technically they are both unemployed now. He destroyed that family.
I think it’s also just the fact that when you watch youtubers especially for a long time, you create a parasocial bond where you love seeing them on the screen and you often care about them as a human. Because of that I think it’s always extra difficult for fans when a YTer gets in a scandal like this. It hurts to see someone you look up to do something so messed up
This. I’m not the biggest try guys fan, I watched them a few years back when they were actually on buzzfeed. (I was young, don’t judge me for watching buzzfeed)
That’s exactly why I’m so shocked by this, watching so many videos, deep into the drama. Ned seemed like the perfect husband, made me feel like maybe there are actually amazing men out there who genuinely care and have a brain. It sucks hearing about this, not only do I now feel like my view of men is once again damaged because he wasn’t faithful, but I feel even less trusting of men how far he went to make everyone around him believe this. And the fact that I actually thought he was that person. It makes me think “wow. Men can really be manipulative can’t they? Put on a whole face for years and it’s all a lie”. It’s sad.
I'd divorce him. I feel just as horrible for Will. He just planned to spend the rest of his life with someone, only to have them break his heart.
A cheating happened in my family, and the significant other forgave the guy
They're very strong and showed maturity whilst everyone else was shouting and having a frenzy
My respects go out to them.
Okay that clip of Ned talking about the biological clock, like women are defenseless against some supposed hormones that happen in their 20's to 30's is so creepy. Hands down if you ever hear a guy talk about your hormones like every women is the exact same get the hell away from them. That's so gross and dehumanizing.
Wtf if I knew he ever said that I NEVER would have been okay with him. Sometimes I forget that of course the try guys videos are edited and curated to cut out questionable parts. And I never liked the try guys enough to listen to their podcast. But ugh, it makes me even more wary about this sort of thing…
... of all things, this the most tame. My mom had me and my twin at 40. She has a miscarriage before us, was told there's a higher risk of her kids having down syndrome, we were premature, and we were C-sectioned... I didn't get all the context, but if she wanted kids, yeah, the biological clock is real... Take that shit seriously, your kid has no control over when and how they're born, the mom does, and she has to take it seriously if she wants kids. My mom could of died or we could of.
That bring said, it doesn't make any more or less of douchebag than he already is.
@@antithoughtpolice7497 but I thought the whole point was she didn’t want kids
@@shirin9452 I thought she was talking about 40 year olds with kids, which is why I thought of my mom. I thought she was implying she had time if she changes her mind, she's allowed to, but she shouldn't downplay the risks.
Also, you have your response show up twice, I don't know why
it's even creepier from a guy who cheated on his wife after 2 births with a women with no children. yes I do mean exactly what you think cause I do think that Ned is a douchbag who wanted the American dream of a family, a house in the suburbs 2 children and a dog (ok, fuck. he has exactly that), and kinda act to his wife as a poduct of his delusions,
so ye, I can beleive he talk to a women as a walking womb
Now, this is a drama I can relate to. Like literally. My fiance cheated on me with a RUclipsr who had over a million subs and his own cable TV show. And guess how I busted her?
Somebody snapped a pic of them and posted it somewhere and within like an hour, some complete stranger was DMing me asking, "Bro, isn't that your girl?"
She was supposed to be visiting her dad. For the record, he was NOT her dad. Insert inappropriate "daddy" joke here.
Jeez, I’m sorry to hear that. I hope you’re doing better now, because that’s just wrong.
@@JimmyRobins Yeah, it sucked. Pretty hard. But it's been a long time since then and I can safely say I'm over it.
Of course, it still stings to be reminded of that time (it probably always will) but last I heard, they were still together. So at least she didn't break my heart for a fling.
Yes, imagine your friends(old company acquaintances) and your husbands friends knew something and they didn't tell you and only after months and years they just make nasty comments about how they knew all along. I hope Ariel finds new friends and heals.
@@reon_owo yep. personally for me That was the worst part. It felt like I had been the butt of ALL my friends joke's for as long as the fling lasted. I was 18 , he was 22 and we were legally married and I was young and dumb and thought when I married him it was my fairy tale, ended up more like a horse's ass tail than a Fairy Tale 🤣🤣🤣. Live and Learn !
"For the record, he was NOT her dad" this is killing me
I know they fired Ned because he abused his power as a boss but I can't believe Alexandria still works there, is she not embarrassed?
I'm honestly hoping she gets fired or she leaves. We don't know yet if she's still there yet but there's been speculation that she might've left since she's been edited out of videos n everyone unfollowed her.
It takes two to tangle.
How could she look Ariel in the eyes?
@@Somebody9666 How could she look her own partner in the eyes man she had been with him for over a decade 😭😭
@@Somebody9666 not to be a smartass but it’s “It takes two to tango” everything else you said is faxx 😔
There’s a lot of legal fallout from something like this. It’s very possible that she has every intention of leaving but we won’t know about it for a while.
I hate that his statement says "may have hurt", no you hurt your wife and family knowing full well what you were doing, no maybe there. Also Alexandria has known them for years so she fully knew he was married and had kids. She threw her 11 year relationship away while also helping destroy another family. There's also a clip from their podcast telling a story about pressuring a guy to have shots with her even though his gf is pregnant and doesn't want too. Hell they even had a video of her trying on wedding dresses for her upcoming wedding. People can keep bringing up power imbalance but she's a grown ass woman. They both knew better and both suck.
Yeah it was Post Malone. She sucks
They both should be ashamed of themselves but instead they don’t really care 😅 like they both deserve to be fired.
I don't believe for a second those statements (and possibly videos in the future) are personally written by the parties involved. I'm almost sure PR people edited all of them.
It's a legal/moral thing, dodging 100% responsibility and accountability. It's something the 20~21st century really fostered in us all.
this comment right here!
I honestly respect the Try guys for firing Ned. I don't really watch their content anymore, but I wonder how this'll change their content especially since all of their partners feature on the channel.
Some people think they’ll replace him to fill the gap, which kinda makes sense. It seems like they were planning on doing a “rotating cast” anyway, as Eugene apparently wants to cut back…
They knew about it and were going to keep it private until her fiancé posted about it.
@@lola.cruz916 is he still the fiancé? For me, there’s no going forward with a marriage after this
@@IsThisThePrizeIveWaitedFor My understanding is the fiancé has deleted photos of her from his Instagram, so that sounds like they're no longer together.
i don’t think i respect them if they knew ab it
Alex being coerced or not, I think the main question falls to Ned, which is " Why did you feel it was appropriate to have a romantic relationship with someone for whom you write their paycheck for?"
B/c he's a horny, selfish, bastard prick who wanted the family life, while getting some younger side piece!!! 😡
She knew him for years years years
@@Kathakathan11 She’s known Ned as a superior at multiple workplaces for years and years and years.
@@Kathakathan11 not to mention she is (was?) engaged
@@parkerisles7256 Doesn't mean she wasn't in a bad position to lose all she had worked for. Who knows how sleazy Ned is really?
I don't think Ariel will leave him and I don't think this is the first time he has cheated. I get the vibes she has caught him before and has forgiven him. There is no way this was his first time cheating.
there's dms showing she's known about him cheating with alex since december of last year. but ned had lied and said he stopped. obviously not....
She is strong enough to get out of that abuse. It’s emotional abuse for sure, whoever is victim man/ woman.
@@whysnana 🤢🤢
@@aaaduccs6667 its true sadly
Why should she still be with him after cheating? 😂😅
3:06 "the relationship ended because he was caught..." Yup! You're the first one I've seen to point this out. I enjoyed this... level headed and not reveling in the train crash drama. New subscriber. 👍🏻
Yeah I wouldn’t forgive him if I was Ariel for that reason. He hid this from her for a YEAR. So this was also an emotional affair. He ONLY apologized because he was caught. If he had come clean to her maybe it would have been a different story. Fuck Ned. I feel so betrayed and hurt for ever having supported him.
Him insulting rainy about her biological clock was disgusting...he "apologized" for in the the next episode. He also would always downplay others' problems (quatentines/covid experiences especially) because his life was harder because he had kids. Glad to see him go tbh
I think Alex deserves just as much criticism. She was with her fiancé for over a decade, poor Will, poor Ariel. They deserve better.
I mean as a bad partner maybe, but honestly it's not necessarily the big issue here. Being a cheater makes you a shitty person most of the time, but being a boss who has an inappropriate relationship with your employee is objectively bad. Ned should be focused on because not only was he a bad partner, but was also abusing his power.
@@seenmccaffeine8553 but come on... as if there's never been a case were subordinate saw the opportunity to be with their boss and took the chance knowing what they were doing. I really doubt Alex felt forced to continue this in any way.
‘Just as much criticism’. Ned has kids. Kids who are in the public light. People genuinely believing Alex is ~ just as bad ~ are truly just buying into sexist stereotypes of the mistress.
@@zanakate7319 Alex has literally proudly shared about the one time she tried inviting Post Malone to a strip club despite him refusing because his pregnant girlfriend was around town. Just like how Ned has history of being sloppy flirt even after marriage, Alex has history of trying to get involved with taken men while also in a decade long relationship JUST LIKE NED. Can we just stop defending one half of the guilty because of their gender and job position when she could have at any time told the other Try Guys or tell Ariel, whom she also has worked with FOR YEARS? Both are to blame. The only innocent victims are Will, Ariel, and the kids.
@@vwoeng7477 you never watched the original video that post Malone clip is from DIDNT you… it’s her talking about how she was inviting him out completely platonically and she was confused and uncomfortable when he started bringing up his girlfriend bc it implied it was anything but platonic…
I’m not saying Alex is an ‘innocent victim’ but you people are jumping through HOOPS to try and condemn her ‘equally’ to Ned. Fact of the matter is, Ned is the one who made being a wholesome husband his BRAND. Ned is the one who profited of this false image. Ned is the one who put his kids in the public eye & Ned is the one who has publicly embarrassed his whole family that he has whored for views at every turn. It’s weird to keep redirecting the conversation away from him…
Ruining your image so carelessly as an influencer/celebrity is about as an irresponsible of a worker as you can basically be. Your image and reputation ARE your job. So I'd say that regardless of the additional mess with her being an employee, there was every cause to fire him. He hurt the brand. That on top of the fact its not just his image in general, but specifically his image in relations with his drama. Cheating when your brand is "I love my wife"...? Thats an instant death😬💀
Alex, and I enjoy her, needs to be accountable for
And we don't know if Alex was pressured, we don't . A young woman in a high position who's cute... we just dont know. So I feel while it's terrible, it could be worse for Alex. If Ned was pursuing her and she is in a very good position in her career... afraid to out him, many if us have been there and quit jobs because of it, before we had to do something we didn't want to. I'm not saying its the case but it very well is possible.
agree, and even if it wasn't an employee, it could have been that they have a morality clause
it just blows my mind that they just openly cheated in public?? at a harry styles concert?? at a NYC club?? of course people are going to recognize them that is literally their target demographic
For anyone who says that Alex should be fired as well, the guys technically can’t fire her. In any company, a workplace relationship between a boss and an employee obviously isn’t right so most people just tend to get rid of the boss since it’s considered ‘abuse of power’. They were right to fire Ned but for Alex it isn’t since she could sue them. So considering that everyone in the Try Guys company are really close and are good friends, I think they’re just waiting for Alex to leave on her own. I mean, imagine having to face your coworkers who knew you had an affair with your boss?
yeah, it’s like in some TV shows where the host will eventually be in a relationship with a co-host. They always make one of them, either the host or the other, stay. I really hate that Alex is staying, but just like you said it would be better for them if they let her leave after a while.
Honestly I don't think Alex will stay for long with the type of work place they tried to foster, especially with the fact that another employee was getting attacked online due to mistaken identity. Imagine having to show up to a work place that's tight knit after it's exposed to the public that not only were you cheating on your partner but helping your boss cheat on his wife (not going to get into if it was consensual or not cause we just don't know for sure since all we have is Ned's words) who your coworkers and other bosses like. Add on top of it that they'll all know that another coworker was getting attacked because of it
Tbh I hope she makes the mature choice to leave because I don’t think I can support them with her working there
Except it cannot nor should not be automatically assumed that there is a power dynamic; it robs individuals of agency and more importantly deprives them of responsibility - in incidents where it was actually consentual. Let the facts play out and not draw conclusions about the nature of their _'relationship'._
@@keanusolan2844 Even if all of them weren’t working together, it’s still wrong to have a ‘consensual’ relationship with a married man with kids, same as an engaged woman who has a fiancé. No one here drew any conclusions, Ned himself has confirmed he cheated on his wife, whether his relationship with Alex is purely emotional or sexual it’s still morally wrong.
We also can’t ignore how involved Ariel was with the channel. Both her pregnancies being topics of videos, building their home, try wives, the relationship/family podcast with bed and so much more. And she’s been in a lot of bed videos even back in the buzzfeed days . She is directly a factor to he channel along side neds whole brand.
Also when the girls podcast (you can’t sit with us) started it outperformed the boys one for a fair bit (havent listened in a while so idk where it’s at now). Ariel was a part of the brand in her own right.
@@ameliewiseman744 All of the guys still follow Ariel, and they have (while not loudly due to legal stuff) vocally supported her. In her post about things, she implied that “everyone” reached out, and with how much the guys and their partners (as well as their friends) adore Ariel and her kids, it’s safe to say that they talked to her as soon as they could. I honestly think that if she wants to remain a part of the company’s videos and such, she will always have a place. She might not want that at all due to everything, which would be totally fair. I just hope that she and the children are okay, and I hope that all involved are able to receive appropriate support.
I see lots of people saying they never liked ned all along, but honestly always thought he was underrated and seemed sweet and a bit awkward. He reminded me a lot of my best friend since kindergarten, Emma. Of course I realize now there was a lot more going on behind the scenes that was just awful and not admirable at all, but I won't pretend I didn't like him.
unfortunately he was the only one who i never found funny, and i honestly felt badly for him clearly being my least favourite but hey
Tbh , Keith and Eugene are my favorites, I find their humor more natural than Zach’s and Ned’s but I’ve been watching them since I was in high school and I was fond of all the guys. I was genuinely so shocked when I heard abt all this 😢
He was my favourite actually...because of "my wife" thing...yeah
@@yurievna_the.eldest.sister same... because of the "my wife" thing too
ned was my favorite til an easter egg hunt video at his house a few years ago. drunk ned is a different person. so obnoxious and loud. since then, i cant with the videos where hes been drinking
The thing you said about him being fratty is ABSOLUTELY the vibe I got from him too. Like...am I surprised? Absolutely, but am I surprised that HE'S the one out of the 4 of them to get caught in that sort of action? Not as much, after thinking about it for a minute.
Exactly. I got douchey frat vibes, but didn’t question his love for his wife because she seems so obviously “respectable” and conventionally attractive in a way that I assumed someone like him would genuinely value…but now in hindsight, it tracks that he would be generally scummy
He got fired for dating a subordinate as one of the men that employed her and who unofficially acted as HR. Alexandrea had a MASSIVE lawsuit on her hands if things went further south, so the Try Guys covered their butts but taking Ned out. Give it six months and they have the ability to fire her for “poor performance”. Until then, she’ll most likely quit.
He didn't get fired for dating a subordinate. That's not illegal. Had Ned not been married this wouldn't even be an issue at all. He likely was fired for using company funds for the affair (which is illegal) and of course for causing damage to their brand.
I hate that people are like, “but his relationship is none of your business! So what if he cheats? He shouldn’t be fired for it.”
Except his personality was a Brand. It was a product that made him money. It was a product sold to us basically, so yeah it’s basically our business now lol
I tried to point out the power dynamic under another video but everyone thought i was victimizing her and im like bro im trying 2 explain why he got such heavy handed punishment
Folks are trying REAL hard for the "they canceled him for cheating" like that man didn't tarnish the brand he created for himself, and become a whole ass liability to the company. 🤣 Either one on it's on would get someone fired from a media company, let alone busting out both in one go.
He was her boss only bc he owns the company along with the other try guys, shes barely one step down and is very much in place where changing jobs would be easy… she was in a 10y relationship, they ware being recklessly and obvious
power dynamic is understandable in context of why he was fired , but it cannot justify her cheating in any way. nonetheless i understand your point.
@@iamradhikasharma im pretty sure that IS their point 😭
@@ook4698 true, honestly my mind is still a bit fuzzy after hearing this news
0:59 uhhh more like
Eugene: Queen Gay Texan Asian
Zach: Jewish and smiling through constant chronic pain
Keith: Loves fried chicken
Ned: His wife and children (no more)
you would be right, just remember that he doesn't watch the try guys as much as we do lmao
@@Gingerbread1922 he doesn’t watch it, yet he managed to describe each of them just fine without referring to ethnicity/race or sexual orientation as if they are aspects of their personality.
🙄🙄🙄🙄
@@dewilew2137 yes but the point is that eugene often portrays the fact that he constantly wants people to know that he is gay and asian. I am not saying that they necesarily have to be a part of their personality, but the comment that adrianna made was a joke, and I was just going along with it. Please don't act like I was being extremely offensive to half the worlds population or whatever.
@@dewilew2137 🙄🙄🙄🙄
You'd be amazed the weird stuff men say to justify their own cheating. Had a man try to pick me up by bragging about the new remodeled bathroom he had done for his girlfriend he lived with for 30 years. He pursued me like crazy even tho I was married with kids.
8:34 I hate how this branding thing works in real life too. If someone makes themselves known as the asshole, they can get away with anything.
If you're gay and the homophobic uncle in family gatherings says nasty things about you, "well, he's homophobic, what can you do? You know what he's like. Just tolerate it until we can go home."
You calling Ned "fratty" is so accurate. I had the same experience with him. I was describing it to my sister as "He has a cocky jock vibe. Kind of arrogant". But frat boy is even better because it conjures up the imagine of people being rowdy and trashy.
I'm very impressed with how they handled it honestly, I don't think it will impact them much bc of how swiftly they reacted
That's PR for you.
Of course there's still the human element, but nowadays some things cannot be done without PR teams. The swift reaction had to be done.
Agreed. Some people said they shouldn't have fired him, because it was a personal matter. But since she was an employee, it had to be done that way.
@@blugreen123 Personal matters are also company matters when you're literally the product. There's weird rules to being a celebrity.
@@danielrebora1350 Exactly, even if he didn't cheat with an employee it would be understandable if they fired him because it nullifies his brand and would get them in trouble with loads of their sponsors
As someone who has worked in high level crisis communications and reputation management, the Try Guys will be just fine in 12 months but the next year will be rocky as they can’t lock down their comments. Nobody will remember Alex’s name in 2 years. Ned is fucked.
That polygraph clip feels weirdly revealing. Like, he said that marriages aren't as good as you get older as if it were a fact. I can't help but wonder if he holds that belief for his own marriage, which almost lets him have an excuse to cheat. I dunno, it's just interesting to consider.
now, i haven't actually gotten to that part in the video, so i dont have any context for what you are saying and my point could be completely invalid. and what you are saying could totally be true.
that being said, polygraphs are notoriously inaccurate lie detectors. they measure things like blood pressure and heartbeats, so the results can be extremely skewed if you're particularly anxious or calm under pressure.
@@nineparr3110 I wholeheartedly agree that polygraphs are nonsense. I'm more speaking specifically on what he said before he got the results. Polygraphs are honestly such nonsense lol
He definitely got fired for the potential legal implications, given she was his subordinate. But I do wonder, since the "internal review" part went up and there are pictures of them having meals in restaurants before this broke...I wonder if "business expenses," like hotels, air fare, and "work lunches," were used as part of the affair.
Wait that’s actually a really good point, how have more people not thought about this??
Exactly.
The unfollowing doesn't just end with the Try Fam - Watcher, Ryan and Shane, Kelsey Impicche, Kelsey Darragh...all unfollowed his ass.
The employee he cheated on with, Alexandria Herring? She boasts about pressuring a Post Malone to stay at a strip club while he said multiple times that his girlfriend was pregnant. A fan who saw them at a Harry Styles concert even mentioned she looked annoyed when they asked for a picture. Yeah, she 100% consented.
I definitely don’t get nonconsensual vibes from this scenario, but it’s not right to say that someone one’s poor character and sexually flirtatious behavior in other scenarios precludes their being assaulted. Someone could behave exactly as she did and still end up being taken advantage of by someone in a position of authority over them, but barring further details I wouldn’t assume that’s what happened here.
Alexandria got away with a lot during competitions in videos, too, it just seems to be a quirky little trait of hers 🙄
When I worked at Best Buy the former CEO cheated w/ an employee and was pushed out of the company. It isn't uncommon for leaders to be fired or pushed out when they "dip their pen in the company ink" after having relationships with employees. I think people often miss that part of the conversation when discussing this.
The part ofhim being fired because of the power imbalance might also have been a clause in their company policy. I remember in an episode of Candid competition, 'What’s The Best Place To Propose?', where Zach said he didn't want to kiss Miles for a sketch (even though he consented to it) because it would blur 'some HR boundaries'.
a boss kissing an employee even for a joke would violate ANY company's HR boundaries, not just these guys
Although she was a subordinate, I think Alex should be fired as well. She's a grown woman who knew what she was doing. She, like Ned, never added much to the show so good riddance
I don't think the reasoning of firing alex is strong enough like that...i think it's more of "she's dragging the company image down" would be more plausible. If alex cheat with the cameraman nobody would bats an eye
@@letsrain6933 no she would sued the workplace
It really depends on whether she’s violated any clauses in her contract. People don’t get fired for being morally bankrupt, and she can attempt to sue if she’s ousted from her position.
Morally, yes. Legally, it’ll be a crap show if they tried. They aren’t and won’t because they’re screwed if they do. She’ll probably leave because there’s no way she could walk into the office after all of this.
I don't know about fired but I'd be shocked if she stuck around long. That workplace is not going to be comfortable for her.
Thank you for not glossing over that his wife came last, and that his career comes first.
I'll give him one shred of credit for at least naming his wife, Adam Levine didn't even name his wife. But why are the most hurt party always last in these "apologies". And the disrespect of calling it a relationship. Could have said consensual affair and it would have meant the same thing.
I really like that the Try Guys were so open and honest about this topic. I just wonder if they only fired Ned as damage control as they have a huge following or if they would have also done it if their company wasn't in the public eye.
Apparently they knew about this since the beginning of last month and they edited the videos cutting him off, to eventually announce he wasn’t in the company anymore. The thing is that the video got leaked on Reddit or something. That’s what I’ve read.
I'm guessing that he used company money to carry out the affair which can be seen as embezzlement. Like if they hooked up on work trips the money used for hotel rooms could be seen as "stolen" if that makes sense. It definitely wasn't at all to do with her being a subordinate, because if they were both single it wouldn't be a problem for them to date. The fact he was cheating damages their brand, and him using company money is obviously illegal.
I'm not gonna say I knew Ned was a slime ball from the beginning, but I will say I didn't know Ariel's name for like 3 years while watching the channel because I never heard Ned call Ariel by name. Literally, every time he addressed her it was always "my wife" and never "Ariel". It was like she was a personality trait for him and never her own person.
100%!
The way they edit him out of videos, literally taking Ned out of the intro shows that no one there sides with Ned. Sure they kept it private, but they weren't actively showing him, like at all. Then the screenshots popped up and it was just the right timing to announce that his ass was being fired. I wouldn't blame it on the people there for keeping it low because it literally is a HUGE thing. One of the main faces of the brand, there has to be some more intricate steps involved. Imho, they did a good job of slowly erasing Ned out of their recent content, as a sign that they do NOT support his cheating ass at all.
He sent everything he had built crashing and spiraling, but he also jeopardized his three best friends' entire careers. That's what shocks me the most. I always felt like he was trying too had to be the "my wife" guy. Cheating is horrible but he also screwed his supposed brothers, as they call each other, completely over. I will still keep watching the Try Guys as long as they keep making videos, but I'm realistic about what may or may not happen. They brought me a lot of joy and laughs and they still do.
Ned is the married, math one. I probably will miss the math stuff honestly. And Eugene having a competitive person to bounce off of. They need a competitive math/science person…. wait can they do a collab with Hank Green? Not as competitive, but science for days. Oh yeah. Science.
Thank you.... I have always found Ned a frat boy. Bro/ man boy type. I am sure many others feel the same way. He tried to hard to mask his persona. But the frat boy always came out. The bragging etc. He can be funny at times, but the rest felt forced. I really feel for Ariel, the kids and for Will, Alex's fiancee. He is as much a victim as Ariel and the kids.
Also the Try Guys staff. This is a mess all around. The Try Guys brand will survive. But Ned has destroyed his career in social media platforms. He will need to use that Yale degree to find another job. But he has been years outside of the field. And now this new public reputation that no HR department wants to deal with.
Alex, well she has done the same to her career as well. Social media is not kind to this sort of thing.
i completely agree with Ned's aura of frat boy / bro duché vibe. never got what his wife saw in him... but I don't think it's over for him. the public eye is very forgiving of white men who cheat. the producer he cheated with, on the other hand... her being much less known is in her favour, but...
Tbh, I think the ones who took to the internet claiming to have saw this coming are saying cuz they picked up on it too. That's not to say every bro's bro will cheat on there partner...but I'm know I'm not the only one who saw a headline about one of the cheating, and thought "only half of them are actually married, and idk why, but I already know it ain't Keith"
@@_IVXX exactly!!! i always got sort of bad vibes from ned but i ignored them a lot bc i was like "well if hes friends with them im sure they think hes swell, and they know him better than me, so im probably wrong" and then this came out and i instantly went "it was ned, wasnt it."
Ned straight up said he was a wild boy...and then he met ariel. They remind me of that married couple in 'juno' who look dreamy on the outside but in reality, he was a man-child trying to become a rock star and all she wanted was a baby. Of course, we know how that ended.
i remember him mentioning while he was in Yale, he was indeed part of a Frat and has set of Frat friends from those days
I would like to point out that at Buzzfeed he was like a senior producer. Many current and former employees at Buzzfeed said he hired them as interns... this brings into question what happened at Buzzfeed.
Also, Alexandria wasn't just a co-worker, she was a producer. She wasn't just some faceless worker behind the camera, she also has her own successful channel and was in quite a few Try Guys videos. They were certainly more equal than not. I think she is absolutely just as fallible as Ned.
For sure. It boggles my mind that people think there's even a chance she didn't do this on her own when there's so much evidence it's just something her personality lends to. Legally, unfortunately, that difference is still a stark line
@@aff77141 Yeah, this was 100% a consensual act on her part. Albeit Ned was apparently screwing around pretty often.
@@CeceJianni honestly I feel like she was the one that instigated it. They might spin it otherwise but you're telling me that none of those guys would have backed her if it wasn't consensual??? Why would she stay at a company that she truly believes would allow any kind of sexual harassment?
I actually agree, but on the premise that she has a history of peer-pressuring people into drinking, including Ned. She absolutely has the personality of an instigator.
She definitely consented. She literally had a 10+ year relationship with her fiance, she actively chose to cheat with Ned.
This happened to Bad Magic Productions a couple of months ago (comedian Dan Cummins's small podcast network). His sound guy, producer, and co-host of one of the podcasts had been cheating on his wife with two employees over several months and he was fired. He and his wife are divorcing, but he doesn't seem to have a lot of remorse - he's continuing an independent comedy podcast in which he still tells stories about his now ex-wife and family. It's very strange, and I think Dan Cummins felt like it was a betrayal to him as a friend and to the company. Especially since it involved employees.
Yeah I could definitly see that being the case here too. They all know Ariel, and seem close to her. This could also jeopardize their new tv deal, and just company in general. Who wouldn’t be pissed at Ned.
That was the first thing I thought of when I saw Ned was fired.
Too many people are focusing on it being Alex being subordinate, when that doesn't really matter. He very much was fired for damaging the brand, though I also think he was using company funds to fund the affair so Ariel wouldn't know. That actually is illegal. If Ned wasn't married this would literally be a nothing deal at all. It only matters because he did in fact cheat.
I think it's kind of weird how so many people seem to be taking this personally. Like, there's a bizarre parasocial element here. I think the only people Ned owes an apology to are his wife and anyone else directly affected by his decisions.
Yeah, it’s definitely creepy just how personally people are taking it…
@@JimmyRobins yikes - no it's not. Fans are absolutely entitled to take this seriously because many of us who Ned has financially profited off of don't want to support a cheater who exploits his position of power by cheating with an employee he has authority over - especially if we've been victims of infidelity in the past. He has profited off of pretending to be someone whom he is not. That's a completely valid response and if anything is "creepy" it's the gatekeeping and shaming of the people they have financially profited from for years.... The fact that you are calling their audience creepy instead of the man who literally banged his subordinate is something that I as a woman find to be A MAJOR red flag.
Ther are a lot of us angry because Ned and Ariel wrote a date night cook book, spoke at COLLEGES about healthy relationships and done various other projects based on how happy and in love Ned was with HIS WIFE. which always creeper me out anyway because he rarely used her name. Just her title in relation to him and what she did for him, HIS wife, mother of HIS children. Ned has spent YEARS making money off of his so called happy relationship. So people feel scammed. People have spent money and are pissed. Anyone who bought into the scam of Ned Fulmer has a right to feel scammed.
@@Purrsephone19 yess the lecturing at colleges part especiallyyy. He was actively putting himself out there as an e x a m p l e of an extraordinarily good partner, while, at least to an extent, it's plain bullshit. Naturally, the hypocrisy of it all has triggered a lot of people, more so the ones who already had similar trust issues
@@princess_maya_ I know this is a sensitive topic so I just want to immediately say that I'm going to do my best to remain civil. These are just my opinions. If you disagree that's fine, just please be civil.
I somewhat disagree. I don't understand the mindset of people who are so disappointed by the actions of a man they DON'T KNOW. Hypothetically it's possible all the other try guys are just as bad as Ned. Hypothetically it's possible ANY public figure is just as bad as Ned. It's a parasocial relationship, and when you put investment into the moral character of a person you have never met, you can't be surprised when sooner or later it doesn't go well. I think it's really unhealthy and that if you need someone to look up to or need support from, it's probably for the best that it be someone you actually know.
going to yale doesn't mean you're smart, it means your family has money
@6:26 Importantly, he had an affair with a subordinate employee. Which, Ned has stated in several videos, is illegal. So it not only breaks their corporate policy, but is illegal.
I feel like while emotionally difficult to fire Ned, it was actually very easy to fire him as a co-founder because he would only own about 25% of the company. Since the other try guys together would own 75% of the company, they could easily push him out of that was the case.
I don't think Ned was fired simply for cheating on his wife, he got fired for a workplace relationship, which is a big nono in most companies if not all. He's not the first to get fired for inappropriate workplace relationships.
"Zach is the neurotic one" ah yes that must be why he's the one I find most relatable.
Not sure if this is true or not, but someone online suggested that Ned was in charge of HR for the Try Guys. If so, that would add severe additional legal reasons to fire him.
He was indeed, although I think it was sort of an unofficial position? A lot of business things fell to Ned when they started the company because he was good at that sort of stuff, and I think HR got put on his plate too.
I know it's ridiculous but I'm still hoping it's some kind of video idea like "trying online rumors" or literally anything. Ik ik it's obviously real i just don't wanna believe it 😭😭😭😭😭
How old are you?😅
@@jnm2088 20 why?
I have been happily married for 12 years now. I cannot imagine hurting my wife like these cheaters do. Its unthinkable that you can just betray someone you love like this.
I have still yet to see the appeal in cheating. 😵
Ned was also the BOSS of the company, imagine firing your boss.
Just found your channel and its crazy to me how you don't have more subs with how much effort you clearly put into the channel
You're pretty underrated, the way you present the info is really niche! You definitely deserve more subs
Ned didn't get fired for cheating - he got fired for sleeping with an employee and he's her BOSS.
Apparently the other guys knew too and we’re trying to keep it under wraps until Alex’s fiancé leaked the photos of them (good for him honestly I would’ve done the same)
He was going to be fired regardless but they were going to try and let him leave without making the reasons public
theres no proof stating the other guys knew. and the photos werent leaked by will either, it was a reddit user who had dm'd will the photos of alex and ned in a nightclub.
I think the try guys were trying to keep it hush for Ariel and the kids if we consider the timeline of when they began scrubbing Ned and Alex out of videos, meaning they always planned to kick him out. Just with less media circus so people will stop prying on Ariel and her kids. I don’t blame Will if he were the one leaking the photos but I do wish the kids could have been spared.
None of that is really what happened. It's not just you but I wonder truly how many people can misconstrue what the hell is going on when there's so much blunt coverage and confirmation. We all have what we need to know, the rest isn't our damn business
You make it sound like the other guys were trying to brush it all under the rug. Did you expect them to unfollow Ned and Alex the moment they found out and kick Ned out the next business day? I’m sure the staff knew for a while but these things take time and a TON of legal/PR work to sort out, esp considering Ned is one of the founders of the company. Til then you can’t be having a media frenzy.
I remember reading somewhere that the more you talk about your relationship that it reflects how self conscious you are about it.
Says a lot when you get caught for an affair....
There are words that say that their affair began around January of 2021, and it just so happens that Will, Alex’s ex fiancé, proposed to her May of the same year, so she was fully having an affair with Ned while she got proposed and began to plan her wedding with Will
A similar happening (a founder getting pushed out) happened a few years ago with the valleyfolk. Much less public-facing drama, though, and a certainly less well-known group.
Oooooooh I forgot about them! I’m still curious what went down with Lee, it (with COVID) basically killed the group’s momentum.
The Valleyfolk was my first thought too. Lee being pushed out (or whatever went down) was kind of a similar situation here in that their brand “thing” was that they were such great friends
@@halleram yeah.... I think the main difference is that everything was so vague in that situation.... I don't remember us really getting any closure. It left me feeling strange about the group and I ultimately didn't end up following any of them. I think we have more information in the Try Guys situation, so as an outside observer the decision seems very justified in this case. I think I'll probably still follow their channel, but we'll see how everything shakes out.
I had heard references to this topic but I couldn't be bothered getting into it, thanks for the update. You keep me young and hip....kids still say hip, right?
Same here...Jimmy is like vampire blood for us oldies....lol. The "hip" question is amusing and...what is the answer? LoL
this was a great video! best one I’ve watched on the topic for sure
I️ think they should honestly make Kwesi the fourth try guy, Keith and Eugene did say in the lie detector tests they should have a black member, and they should, and he’s funny as hell and fills in for Eugene constantly when he’s filming other projects, so the audience already knows him.
I’ve never heard of these guys or this situation at all, but that man was really on a slippery slope the second he started cheating. You’d think people would learn eventually
Clicked just for the thumbnail 😂
Edit: never clicked on a sub so quickly 1 minute in and a browse of your content and I already know you’re going to be one of my usuals. Keep up the great work can’t wait until you hit that first 100,000 👍👍
I'm sure the other guys suspected, but there's really nothing they could have done unless they had solid proof. I wonder if they ever asked him to tone down his flirting? Too late now
There's moments they have to tell him to reign his entire personality in sometimes, it has to be so fucking awkward
Try Guys is supposed to be wholesome, progressive, and funny. It would be difficult to support Ned on screen knowing his actions, and how his persona hardly fits anymore.
I think that everyone is so mad because he didn’t just lie to his wife, he lied to his whole audience.
They are pissed for they liked him and people hate to fing out they fell for someone who does not meat their standards of good person/acceptable behavior.
I'm mad because I think cheaters are some of the scummiest people alive. I feel horrible for Ariel. And I think its ludicrous so much of the focus is on Ned when Alex was a willing participant in this as well and people want to paint her as a victim. She basically got away with doing one of the worst things possible to someone else.
What he did was absolutely disgusting. I never heard the "Biological Clock" quote, but as a woman who never wants to get pregnant that comment is gross.
Ignoring the context of when this was said ain't it, chief ...
Really don’t like how those tea channels just post anything they see just for views but then having to put a disclaimer so they don’t get in trouble even though those videos can ruin peoples lives
the videos on those channels are also so unprofessional. i just watched one before this and it felt like they didn't even have a script. just got a person to say whatever came up in their heads. Like, this video has millions of views. you could be ruining *multiple* lives with this. at least stop for a minute and think. saving yourself from legal trouble by giving a half-hearted "disclaimer" isn't what you should be doing right now.
I don't know how I feel about the possible power abuse in this cheating scandal. It really remove all responsibilities of this adult woman. The poor dude wasted 10 years of his life and if the answer he got is "oh sorry, he's my boss so that's why" You probably need a lot of text conversations, emails, witnesses, etc to prove that he did abuse his power and force her to be in this affair or else she'll be fire.
Exactly! Why are we acting like she was child with no agency of her own?
thank u for the non-biased review of this situation. as a teen who has been watching the try guys since fucking 4th grade, it’s hard to process all of this w/o engaging in gossip. i learned a lot from the insights of this video
You crack me up! I always enjoy your take on things. Thanks for the content!
Of course, thanks for the support, j!
It’s so great to find someone that makes 1 video on 1 topic and just stations the news ❤
found ur channel now through this video and your voice/accent/way of speaking in general is really easy on the ears loved it!!!
if they plan on replacing him, my vote is for their friend Kwesi. i always get excited when i see him featured in one of their videos! man has good vibes
he didn't get fired for cheating on his wife. he got fired for putting the company + brand in jeopardy legally by having an affair w| an employee.
he likely could've been fired if he'd done the same thing but wasn't married.
First video I’ve seen on your channel and the way you articulate points so succulently yet clearly really stuck out to me. Subscribed and excited to see more of your content! :)
My mom had me at 44 years old as she didn’t meet my dad until her late 30s. She took progesterone throughout her pregnancy and I was born with no complications. Modern day medicine, fertility treatments, hormone therapy, and adoption destroy the “biological clock” argument.
My friends and I have a theory that there were stipulations in their contract regarding such an intense scandal like this one that could largely effect the brand as a whole. Brought on by the type of company they are being an internet centric group- someone getting “cancelled” can just about effect everything.
I mean, there don't even have to be stipulations. It's a standard practice (or should be) that if you violate HR protocols like that, you're gone. All they did was hold to the bare minimum of decency, if we want to be really honest about it.
Yeah, don't make it YOUR WHOLE BRAND bro lmaoooooo
Omg, I literally had the thought of them changing their names to "The Tri Guys" while waiting for Olive garden to-go pick up and then 2 hours later I see this video thumbnail 🤯🤯
New sub here, came from the Boyinaband video, and I love how intelligent you make your analysis and break down. Fresh to see someone who remains relatively objective throughout the video, while only occasionally chiming in with their opinion.
Ned brought that on himself. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Just feel sorry for their kids, cause that is a cluster**k no child should have to go through
Just came across this channel, and now i'm obsessed
I saw the frat boy/annoying things in Ned, but easily dismissed any discomfort because of his loving image and the way he seemed like friends with the other guys. Really, his associations made me overlook and think he'd matured. He also stopped bragging about Yale so much and seemed to get better with his more... annoying competitive qualities? In hindsight, I'm seeing more of those traits clearly even in more recent things. It's disappointing.
bro that "it should at least be for hand stuff in a target parking lot" joke K I L L E D me. You get a sub just for that.
This was a good video! This took an interesting and logical take on the whole thing, which I appreciated. I have a question about what was said about never monetizing a relationship. Do you think there ever circumstances where it is okay? One example that comes to mind is Rhett and Link, from Good Mythical Morning. They have basically built their whole business around their friendship. I think this definitely worked for them because they never would’ve come this far had they not done that. But they probably would lose a lot if they ever stopped being friends.
Yeah. It's like if Gordon Ramsey put of nowhere said that he hates cooking and food, that he isn't even the one cooking on the shows cuz he hates it that much. I don't think Ned has a future as a public figure anymore. I'm devastated for his kids, going through this is traumatizing enough but then all of this being so public is gonna hunt them for years. Their classmates are gonna know, people while bring it up, evryone will know what his dad did and how hated he is for it.. Mostly cuz he decided to put his family as his personality and expose them to the internet, at least Ariel knew the consecuences of putting their lifes for the world to see, but the kids can't concent to be used almost like a prop so that their that could grow on social media as this dude that loves his family
When Ned assumed he had a better marriage than the man giving him the polygram lying test, the man said "I'll kill you right here." Omg. ✅️ 10:30
Great video! I really enjoyed the way you explained the situation while also providing your own thoughts and opinions! 😊
It’s crazy because I’ve been looking into this a lot and there are comments from years ago from fans saying he was super creepy to them upon meeting and was very forceful about them coming back stage to shows and dancing behind fans..And looking back on videos after learning that, I do see it now.
I agree, might have not deserve a "you are fired for cheating" type of thing, BUT the "I am a family man, wifey this, wifey that" was what he was selling in the show, cheating just sent his "roleplay" to the sink, so yes, he no longer has a place in there
if i consider a non-business aspect of this decision as well , the remaining 3 guys are friends with ariel and also she is a co-owner in the company as well , in that case also they did show support for her by firing him and unfollowing him on socials and cutting all ties . But yes the business aspects remain valid as well
It was confirmed it was him & Alex in that photo. Another fan earlier in the evening took a photo with Ned as he was wearing that EXACT outfit & Alex posted separate photo of her on Insta in the exact outfit as in the blurred photo. I don't understand how they thought they wouldn't get found out let alone recognized in a NYC club.
the topic of the video aside - first 30 seconds of this got me to hit subscribe. your humor is my exact cup of tea.