Nickisnotgreen is a Wolf in Sheep's Clothing
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- Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
- Nickisnotgreen/greenisnotnick is an increasingly infamous drama creator on RUclips with a problematic history. From lying to outright bullying, nickisnotgreen has a lot to answer for, though Nick would rather cry bigotry.
This video is a deep dive on the history of Nickisnotgreen/greenisnotnick/Nick Green.
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So for that part where I said "I really respect Cody Ko", feel free to put your fingers in your ears and sing "lalalalala" for a few seconds
nice😂
bro commented this fast as
LMAO
lot of respect for you for not letting that slip even though it was months ago
Sooo video about him soon ??
when people question his reliability: "I'm friends with the victim, I have insider knowledge", and when someone questions his intentions: "I'm just an outside observer."
But doesn’t the first statement speak to his unreliability? By saying you are a friend of the victim that means your content is very biased therefore unreliable. Not that it’s untrue, but that it may be twisted or missing parts of the whole story. Saying you are an observer is also true for him. He is not involved in this situation, he is platforming it after getting it first hand, which shouldn’t have done so quickly. Nick is a secondary source, not a primary one. Both statements speak to potential issues in his content.
colby it’s me jerry and seeing you in this comment section is tripping me out
@@skinnyuseless5375 I don't know anyone named Jerry so this is tripping me out
@@Cjaj2 do u know someone named devon
@@skinnyuseless5375Dude, you're in the wrong dimension. You need to go back to your land.
Secondly, as a SA survivor of multiple different men, my life got RUINED every single time it was made public. I was bullied, harassed, threatened, stalked. For Nick to go out of his way to publicise an assault (MONETISED) is disrespectful, self-serving, and FUCKING ABSURD.
I’m so sorry that this happened to you and I hope you’re okay now
I also hope you’re okay now and I am really sorry
I hope you are doing well and I’m sorry for what happened to you no one deserves what happened to you.
Fuck those pieces of human shit who hurt you
People suck sm. Im sorry you went through this. This world is insane. :(
Frankly, there's nothing better than watching a 1-hour callout video about a RUclipsr I don't know by another RUclipsr I don't know
I have no idea what is happening but I can't look away
Yes! No emotional investment but ALL the popcorn, lets go!!
literally the best thing to study to 😩
Valid
the most relaxing content
I was a brief fan of Nick. I noped out when he insinuated that being in an interracial relationship was inherently fetishization, and made fun of a White woman for simply speaking Japanese. Even Japanese people were like, “That’s not offensive, that’s literally how you speak it!”
I saw the video with the Japanese thing (that was a video I couldn't finish) but I definitely missed the video with the whole interracial=fetishization thing
Do you know/remember what video that was? :o
(I'm genuinely curious, my questions aren't coming from a place of disbelief because it honestly totally sounds like something he'd say)
@@just_a_silly_little_guy It should be the same one, about Sorb3t and Berry-chan. With Berry being a White woman who is learning Japanese/embracing Japanese culture and has a Japanese boyfriend, Nick makes a remark about how he thinks it’s all very fetishizing, but what Berry is doing very obviously isn’t wrong if you listen to Japanese people’s views and know anything about Japan. Plus, it’s very normal to assimilate into your S/O’s culture, or at least participate in parts of it. A few comments point out how regressive it is to insinuate a White person shouldn’t be with a POC. It struck me as incredibly ignorant to act as if appreciation equals appropriation.
Edit: There is also a live he did with HasanAbi where they react to TikToks of the girls talking to fans/doing their response calls and dance clips of Sorb3t on stage where they just mock them, two grown men making fun of three young girls having fun. Ick. They’re kaigai idols, apparently that’s the “joke,” but if they were adhering to Western standards nobody would care. Most Japanese love and welcome kaigai idols. It’s Westerners losing their minds on behalf of the Japanese who don’t even care.
@@wannabedrewafualo thanks for letting me know! And for all the thorough information too
That explains how I missed it, I started that video but thought it was really uncomfortable and I had to turn it off
I really appreciate you explanation ❤️
Tf does he think people are supposed to do? Completely ignore and shun their SO's culture?? 💀
@@wannabedrewafualoomfg thanks for explaining this, i had no idea nick did that ??? i used to follow him, but unsubbed after i felt he was being mean and dismissive of ppl,,, interesting he ended up having an L take about sorb3t 🙄
Nick always gave off the vibe of the kid in highschool who claims they don’t have any friends because no one can handle how “honest and real” they are.
Oh now that you’ve said that I can’t unsee it!!
Yeah no kidding, I immediately saw him as that one kid rambling in his parents basement about how his opinion was obviously fact.
Onision flashbacks
@@iliveonatropicalisland6086 oh lord please no
@@NearsightedNarhwalOnision was so good they had to make an Onision 2
i used to watch nick's channel back around when he did that collab with danny gonzalez but a little while later i realized he's just way more mean spirited than any of the similar type of commentary creators i enjoy (like danny gonzalez, cody ko, etc). nick is just so MEAN. it was very offputting
Exact same here
samee i used to watch him a lot but after a while i started getting irritated because he was just nitpicking and being unnecessarily mean and i just abandoned it
cody ko is friends whith a rapist... look it up
same. when he started making fun of teenage girls having innocent interests i immediately unsubbed
Which is wild, cuz he presents this laid-back carefree, lil fun havingvibe
Nick lost me when he made an entire video laughing at a woman who got death/rape threats for just being a little cringe. Instantly I was fuckin out.
Omfg what vid was this?
@@pizzapizza6722the love surge video
Same here. I liked his videos that popped up on my timeline but that one in particular made my skin crawl.
same. I was already a little icked out by a few other vids but I hoped it would get better. the love surge vid was the breaking point for me
Final edit- Never mind. It's not worth my emotional balance to have y'all demonizing me for saying something based on my own traumatic experiences. I acknowledged that I have bias from my personal experience, and you folks are just chill making me feel like shit for some reason. Neat. Guess Nick isn't the only one who talks a big game but has kindness and understanding in short demand. Honestly I wouldn't have even felt so bitter if y'all showed as much empathy as you like to pretend you have.
Things I have learned from making one comment in poor taste: It's okay to delegitimize someone's personal experiences, diagnosis, and trauma, as long as you perceive moral superiority over them.
A post script after taking time to step back:
Call it a compulsion, or an overwhelming feeling of need to be understood after experiencing years of my words being twisted to isolate me and paint me as someone I'm not, but I do want to make some of my thoughts clear. I do not, nor have ever felt, that mental illness should be demonized. As someone who still struggles every day with disordered thoughts and feelings and whose specific diagnosis (which I am not comfortable stating because I don't trust people not to use it to hurt me) is commonly joked about and made fun of, I understand the stigma. I live with the weight of it every day. To say that I am "weaponizing" my diagnosis when I am trying to express that I am more that aware of what people like myself face feels like a slap in my face. Yes, I do think Nick could be a narcissist or perhaps a sociopath. I don't say that from a place of ignorance, I say it because I have experience the very specific kinds of abuse and manipulation that people who have those disorders or have such tendencies perpetrate. I am not alone. There are so many people whose lives have been destroyed by consistent and specific lying and gaslighting and emotional abuse. I have experienced DARVO. I have also seen the other side, the charisma and the fun personality. The way they make you believe that they are a good person so anyone who speaks a word against must be a terrible person. To say that my, and by extension so, so many others' experiences are nothing more than "anecdotes" is beyond invalidation. Such abuse can trigger mental health issues, including depression, chronic anxiety, disordered eating, and so much more. I do not want a pity party. I want people to understand that advocating for people with mental health struggles doesn't only mean when it's convenient for you. It means listening and trying to understand why someone is reacting the way they are. It means understanding that there are no "perfect victims". Ultimately, making a holier than thou reply is nothing but performative. I feel like most of those reactions don't come from people who genuinely care about people with mental illness. They're more concerned about being self-righteous and dishing out perceived justice. Think what you want about me, but don't you dare delegitimize the very real experiences of people who have felt the wrath of a narcissist, sociopath, or psychopath. They get enough of that from everyone else in their lives that have been manipulated against them.
Started following Nick since he started his RUclips, since he was Kurtis' editor before. Unsubbed a few months ago because his content has changed from doing interesting commentary to simply mocking people online for views. Everything is cringe to him, and he has developed this persona of "acting like he just doesn't care", as if that made all of his content unserious and he should not be held accountable. That persona just seems douchy now.
Yes! I agree! I didn't know how to put it into words but this is exactly how I feel. I also unsubbed around the same time.
I've, for the last few months, found his content tiring, bland and boring to watch. I despise how he pretends to present information unbiasedly while sprinkling information in here and there while failing to present firm opinions on the situation and then ending the video as if he's said everything he needed to say and presented fair arguments when he really said a whole bunch of nothing. It's like he's playing middleman but also trying to seem like he's presenting some kind of alternative analysis of the drama or video, but it fails to land. Anytime I click on his videos I sigh because I know I'll leave the video unsatisfied. Guess I have a reason to unsub now.
same! Unsub last month bc I couldn’t take his mid commentary anymore.
@@anma9217 I just want to say that I also didn't think that the love surge thing was cringe, I thought it looked really cute in an affectionate and stim-y kind of way and I thought it was really cool the idea of affectionately stimming with a partner :>
I couldn't finish that video because the vibes were all off, but that happened multiple times with his videos so I definitely feel like I'm a part of the braindead audience for not recognizing a pattern and giving him the benefit of the doubt that he meant well enough every time :(
i still watch his videos and enjoy them but i completely agree with this comment
As a VERY left leaning person I would say that Nick uses progressive lingo to shield himself.
Exactly, he’s just a vaguely left leaning person preaching to a choir of other vaguely left leaning people who all already agree with each other anyway. His commentary is usually so unbelievably bland when he’s not making wild accusations. I’ve never understood the point of his content, it’s not informative or well researched and I’ve personally not found him particularly funny.
This is coming from a hardcore lefty
I actually kinda fell off on watching his content because I got this vibe. Like it didn't really matter to him, this was content. Some of it felt mean spirited, like he'd be covering something inconsequential, maybe a little cringe, but where another creator might laugh with the person or make a joke that isn't at their expense, Nick's commentary just felt really mean.
I didn't even know about any of this shit because of that, but it does kinda track with the vibe check that formed my opinion of him over time.
You be a communist trans girl long enough. You start realizing anyone that actually complains about "Reddit debate Bros" may not be the best people
Which happens ALL the time.
@@brad1426 This. RUclips was actively recommending his channels to me earlier this year and his content felt so pointless. His content wasn't (or at least, didn't feel) well researched and his takes ranged from bland to mean which made this content not only not vibe with me but also feel boring. Stopped watching him within a couple videos.
Honestly, I'd rather watch right wingers and Andrew Tate before I watch Nick because at least they make me feel _something._
Watching Nick grin like a maniac while Dev gasped in horror while the love surge lady was talking about people wishing DV and SA on her cause she’s a lil cringe is INSANE
Im sorry but what does DV mean?
@@toasty_tonstydomestic violence
@@toasty_tonstydomestic violence
@@toasty_tonsty Domestic Violence
@@FormalFilmsProductions ooh thank you
As someone who was a frequent nickisnotgreen watcher in 2020/2021, i can definitely say his content has a different vibe and feel and is way less entertaining with the ego he has grown.
Agreed - it’s not fun anymore. I liked his sillier commentary style. He lost that somewhere along the way.
Word I loved his lighter stuff though now the love search thing I never watched that video, but definitely rubs me wrong. From what I knew it was just really chill to come up on an edible to and just laugh and make food or clean or talk to my friend. I kind of fell off his videos lately because I wasn’t into the super serious topics as much and I didn’t like a joke that he dragged out for a couple videos about his girlfriend or some shit I can’t even remember now. Either way I started watching some of his TikTok drama videos just because they were low steaks and background noise/nostalgia, but never hit the same and I never knew any of this.
Ever since he started to solely talk about tiktok drama its started to feel like he gives no shit about what he puts out
Honestly it wasn't even the Supermega video that did it for me, it was how he handled the push back. It was so hypocritical and cringey to see him doubling down and refusing to acknowledge the controversy and take accountability (not to mention he dropped a weird-ass non-apology in an intro to one of his videos). He literally became the people he used to make fun of.
i agree. i think for me it was about the time he started doing daily videos they started to seem lower effort and he just became more irritating
Nick treating harmless cringe with more sincere vitriol than threats of SA (of people who aren’t his friends) was wild to see. That poor woman.
I was genuinely appalled that he acted that way with one of the most non-problematic and wholesome videos that exists. I was CONFUSED I thought I missed something wondering what the funny part was.. Me and my bf were watching the video and even related to the couple in the video because we do weird cute stuff like that too. For him to viscerally judge them and then laugh at them when they got harassed incessantly over something so lighthearted was crazy..
@@doid4354 for real!! Honestly, I think it’s so endearing when couples do silly, cute stuff like that. 💓💓 I hope you and your bf continue being weird and cute together. 🥰
It's giving bitterness fr
It genuinely confused me when he was like, "the apology seemed blamey and not genuine." I don't know if this was a clip from a different video and I misunderstood but if it was from the Love Surge... what did the woman need to apologize for? Being a bit mushy and silly online?
@@NylaTheWolfyeah I heard him say "her apology" & wondered, 'What apology? That was a RESPONSE video to randoms commenting the most hateful trash & threats to a lovey regular couple.' I'd guess that Nick had gone into that response _expecting_ an apology for posting the love surge TikTok just bc it made him cringe, but to not acknowledge that the unhinged threats were making her cry in the first place? He seems like a manipulative, self-serving douche with a mask of progressive thinking
The shot of Nick literally smiling and laughing at a video of a woman crying while talking about the violent threats she’s been getting online for doing something completely harmless that received intense hate that Nick himself helped promote I think is the absolutely best way to sum up his channels and personality.
Ugh the whole love surge thing made me so uncomfortable. It was a cute video! Sure some people may think it's tmi or not like it but the way nick reacted to it was just :|
@@kosaciecsyberyjskifor me it was a very mask off moment bc watching the love surge video I was like that’s literally how I feel affection as well bc of being neurodivergent so him dunking so hard on it is another case of someone being like I’m an advocate for autistic/adhd ppl!!!! Now excuse me while I viciously mock every single habit and behaviour that comes along w those conditions, you can’t say I’m being mean about the disorders tho bc I’m not using the r slur don’t be sensitive
@@rabbit6546 yes!! I absolutely can relate to feeling so much love that all you can do to let it out is squeeze your partner, the video was very cute and kinda relatable so seeing him act like it's fine that the girl got hate for it is so weird??
@@rabbit6546Literally me too. I already know if i were to post a sweet moment like that with me and my partner, I have no doubt we would get bullied off the internet. I keep my affection behind closed doors, but it’s still heartbreaking to know that millions of people think people like us are so cringey that we deserve to die.
It really comes off as narcissist that struggles feeling even basic sympathy for other people.
Adding my own thing, I will never forget joining a nicki snot green livestream for a second, hearing him say the d slur against lesbians, and then REFUSING to apologize for it, because it was "just a comment."
Holy shit really??? I never knew that before
Oh???
How can you get away with that without being cancelled... Playing the hero really gives you special license to be a prick.
WHAT THE FUCK
“Nicki Snot Green” lmao I’m gonna start saying that now
"I feel like I'm a freak who can somehow tell the niche certain people fit into like right away" It's called being prejudiced, Nick. You just admitted to being prejudiced.
lol I was just thinking the same thing
he's a freak alright.
💀
He’s a freak alright.
He’s a freak alright.
the more I hear about nick being an ally for feminism and supporting women, the more I won't be surprised the day he ends up being exposed as some kind of nice guy creep tbh
@NotVille_Me when I lie
@NotVille_ Not you deleting your original reply. So childish.
If you watch his stuff he says plenty of iffy stuff about women without realizing it already. I recall one video about a woman being abused where he jumps to the man's defense by saying it takes two for abuse to happen.
@@ivy7417He essentially said the love surge woman was asking for it in regards to all the hate and threats she got as well.
@NotVille_ 💀💀 Anyway my last reply. Stan Loossemble, Stan ARTMS/Odd Eye Circle, Stan Chuu, and Stan Yves. In other words Stan Loona
theres a reason danny and kurtis stopped using him as an editor and being his friend publicly
exactly
wait when did this happen? genuinely asking
@@vannessagarcia4158idk exact dates but i know they filtered nick out over the last couple years
yeah i noticed he kinda fizzed out and i didn’t really care (cause i only really watched him if he was in videos with them), but weirdly this video gives me closure 😭
That makes so much sense now 😭@@Typhani-Mariekamai
Nick really lost me when he called Rosanna Pansino (yes THE Rosanna Pansino) a small/niche channel when she came forward about how Mr. Beast did her dirty in one of his videos. She is a youtube og and has over 14 MILLION subscribers and he has THE G A L L to call her niche
edit: whoa, that's a lot of likes
She apologized for it
@@MadMaximoonly because of all the death threats she received
@@neehaa how many blind kids has she helped and trees has she planted? Mr beast is better in every way than a lady crying about a tag game
@@MadMaximoit isn’t about the Mr.beast thing, this comment (or at least how I read it) was about nick saying that if he doesn’t know the person they are automatically unknown and small.
@@alyssatalkstoomuchwhich is bc of his textbook narcissism, Nick exudes it
I hopped on the Nick train when he did collabs with Danny, Drew, and Kurtis. As I've seen other people say in the comments, I believe I instantly had a liking for him because I associated him with these other commentary RUclipsrs that I greatly respect and admire. I never quite understood why, but the longer I was a subscriber of him, the more I started to avoid his videos. I'd save them to watch later and promise that I'd get to them but would never actually watch them. I just found that he gave off some vibe that I didn't like. He was funny in the beginning and I honestly enjoyed watching his content, but as it went on it felt like a chore to watch his videos and I didn't find anything about him likable anymore. I realize now that this sudden mood shift towards how I felt about him was as he got more popular and gained this ego. I always felt like I wanted to unsubscribe and just leave his content behind but I'd feel bad because I didn't see any valid reasons to dislike him. I see now that I just couldn't put the name to it, but this video has helped me clearly see it. I'm glad someone is talking about this and making sure people are aware. Really great video, I appreciate the effort and time you put into putting this info out there. :))
you took the words out of my mouth. I have atleast a hundred of his vids in my watch later because watching him was almost a chore or obligation after a while
omg I did this exact thing !!!
Thank you omg, this is exactly how I’ve felt and I couldn’t describe it better!! Sometimes you just need to trust your gut feeling, there’s usually a reason the vibes feel off.
Omg literally same!! I cant believe how eerily similar it is to my experience
Literally took the words out of my mouth
It was so refreshing to finally find someone who covered Nick that *wasn’t* doing so in order to “own the libs” somehow.
Who has done that? Because that wasn’t turkey Tom’s video at all and that’s easily the most thorough and well researched coverage wether you like the guy or not
@@TrueGamer22887I think they’re referring to acheeto, s3nsitivesoci3ty (I think that’s the correct username idk), etc
@@hi6575 yeah but idk if many people consider them since they kind of made themselves look like fools compared to nick
@@TrueGamer22887turkey tom 🤢
Yeah, call out Nick for being a terrible person due to his actions, don't do it for the exact opposite biased politcal beliefs they have
nick being a comedy commentator who tries to bring that kind of non researched not so nuanced reaction style over to serious topics that require nuance is incredibly spot on, thank you. i think that sort of thing is unfortunately all too common on here
i agree, it seems really accurate. i don’t think he has bad faith in his actions, but definitely lacking in maturity and complex perspective because of the genre he specializes in
its possible to do that without being shitty. i would argue hasan has that "dumb guy with good takes" thing on lock. at least, i wouldnt call him an intellectual or particularly nuanced, but i would also say he hits way more than he misses.
Reminds me of defamation noodles
And then he calls it "reporting".
@@Saibellus some of hassans hypocrisy and foreign policy takes are far too stupid a borderline harmful for me to see him as the stupid guy with good takes
What's wild is that Nick has like a 12 hour turnaround for his videos and his brother Austin makes the most thoroughly researched drama breakdowns you've ever seen. Like the dude who spent 20 minutes laughing at love surges and the dude who spent days tracking down first-hand accounts of a knitting festival gone wrong were raised by the same people in the same house.
...THEY'RE BROTHERS?????????
Wait what's his brother's channel name ?
Austin is definetly the eldest
@@jiminiechubbycheeksj6296Austin Green
That's his brother???? Omg!!! I thought they looked similar but had NO IDEA, that is crazy!!
Idk, Nick and his friends definitely seem like the mean friend group who always say "we should have a podcast" but they actually did it and we're seeing the consequences live.
LOL seriously
This is hilariously true. How did we let this happen???? LMAO
Lmaoooooo
nick has been annoying me for a while now. whenever he calls himself a journalist i roll my eyes. i think he would incinerate if he came within 100 feet of the society of professional journalists code of ethics 🙄
Nick is more similar to modern "journalists" in the US than he should be, to be honest...
Only if you're only paying attention to the absolute worst people who call themselves journalists, and that's because again, they don't follow the code of ethics, so they aren't really journalists anyway. There's plenty of ethical journalism in the US, but people don't want to take the time to learn how to evaluate sources.@@vlo4829
@@vlo4829this, he’s deffo a version of TMZ or popcrave
Yeah, but tbh that's an issue with plenty of online influencers, acting like they have some legitimacy, when they're just someone who read a blog or some shit.
I'm so glad I'm not the only one who's found him to be annoying af lately lol, I figured I was just being grouchy or something but yeah he certainly strikes me as arrogant when I didn't get that vibe in the past, and it's reaffirmed every time I watch another recent video of his I've just never quite been able to articulate *why* lol
It is super messed up that Nick decided to use Matt and Ryan's grieving process against them. When my father died, I used to (and still do) make a lot of really dark jokes about his battle with brain cancer. It got to the point where one of my friends made a comment that it seemed like I had moved in from his death way too quickly (mind you, earlier that day i was bawling my eyes out because a song reminded me of my father). Jokes are a natural way to process grief. My dad would've made the same jokes and I know he would've laughed at the jokes I made. When he first got his cancer diagnosis, he got a pet fish and he made a joke about "who would die first. Me or the fish?"
Jokes don't mean that you didn't care about that person. In fact, to me, it can show that you and that other person were super close. Close enough that you feel comfortable making fucked up jokes that help you process the death because you know they wouldve loved it as well
Thank you for saying this. I feel like some people who maybe haven't been through a very close death don't understand there is a whole process of grieving - sometimes you never stop grieving. Humor is where I have felt the most comfort with coping with the death of both of my parents.
Same. I go back and forth between making dead dad jokes and crying at every song that reminds me of him.
My dad died during the pandemic and I cope by making jokes about not having a dad anymore. I loved my dad my whole life, he was one of my favorite people ever and I cry when I see father-daughter type content. My jokes and my love for him can coexist as truths at the same time, you're so right
a friend of mine lost his brother to complications with epilepsy in 2021. now, when he gets injured or does something stupid he makes jokes about us calling his mum and telling her she ‘lost another one’, he makes jokes about seizures, and it’s not because he thinks it’s a joke or because he doesn’t care. he loves his brother. death is scary and weird and confusing, everyone deals with the myriad of emotions that come with grief differently and it’s so unfair to judge someone’s grieving process (especially when you don’t even know them or the person who passed very well)
RIP to your daddy❤
The couple just being cute on Tik Tok and getting bullied was so sad, they're so happy and then everyone just ruined it...
What really got me with that situation is how he said something like "ugh, she's doubling down" to describe the woman in the love surge video making later content meming on the situation. Doubling down on what, Nick? What bad thing are you suggesting she did that she's supposed to retract instead of "doubling down"? Being cute and neurodivergent and cringe? That's an internet crime to you, Mr. Ally?
Lmao
@@tremolo2109 that's where he lost me too. I'm far from a smol bean defender most of the time but, there's commentary, and there's being a dick from the peanut gallery.
@@miabeachxxidk just because the internet can be harsh shouldn’t give people the excuse to act like assholes to a couple that are being “cringe” yet harmless imo
@@miabeachxx "Well we're too scared to risk being discriminated against, so other people should also hide what they go through, that way none of us can relate to each other and we all stay scared in silence instead of trying to open up about why our differences don't make us any less deserving of respect!" is what I read from your comment.
Don't get me wrong, I stay pretty quiet about being gay (mostly in person), but that doesn't mean I think all gay people should cram back into the closet. Your take is incredibly weird.
Nick always struck me as off with his "holier-than-thou" persona. I am unfortunately unsurprised by this
Weaponizing the suicide of a close friend is ABHORANT behavior. I can't even begin to understand how he justified doing that.
THIS!!!
He's like a male Illuminaughtii.
As a woman and feminist, I have absolutely no problem with male feminists and fully encourage it. However, I’m always skeptical whenever a man makes their whole platform about supporting women because these online male feminists always end up turning out to be phony and not care about any of the stuff they say. Nick’s terrible coverage of all of this and then throwing Lex under the bus at the end shows no indication of someone who actually cares about women. Maybe he cared when he started his channel, but I feel like having a majority female audience got to his head and makes him think he’s a spokesperson for women and therefore anyone that criticized him is sexist.
Reminds me of Joss Whedon
I’m an anti-feminist woman and I agree.
This might seem a bit backwards, but I don't think any male can really be a feminist, and shouldn't be labelling themselves as a feminist. You can be progressive (which really should make you supportive of women's rights without stating it outright) and you can be an ally, but I feel like a male claiming that they have any authority on the female experience is something we should be avoiding.
Again, males can and should be allies, but feminism today is a lot more nuanced than just fighting for equality, and I don't think there is anything a man can add to the conversation that can make a change outside of introducing the topic.
I kind of get the vibe (as a woman, lgbt) some channels just feel off with going overboard with the subject. It makes me uncomfortable to be honest. There are a lot of channels that I enjoy that are "left leaning" but don't turn it into their entire channel. Making borderline fükt jokes, it feel much more natural, because jokes coming from a good place or just pure improve. Nick I never connected with, even before this drama, just because how forced it felt. Nick is young (around my age) and as Jimmy points out in this video, if you are going into commentary and have Nick's size of platform even if you are young yeah... you are going to reach a fanbase that is way more influenced (me included) by just what I like to call "drama preaching". BTW: I will never get this: ok soo they post "truck simulators because the views are down" but "I have a real job" *recent uploads cherry picked "cringe woke guys tiktoks reaction"* . Again there is only so much you can do on this platform, yes, but I rarely see these genre of channels taking real action in private (offline) in the case of S.A., mental health whatever (and I don't expect them to). Voilà, just my rant, now I am going to work on my apology video playing two kazoos through my nostrils.
@@Womper1992 Exactly!
Nick really gives me big "bullied in high school and now does it to others with a superiority complex" vibe
More of "always tried to fit in with the popular cliques in schools" and after getting positive attention, he thinks he is god and invincible
@@plum7t
I get this vibe too.
He seems very keen on what's "cool" and desperately tries to fit into these tropes, mimicking the language and ideas without really understanding why.
i agree and feel the same about ethan
@@adamrara textbook crybullies fr
Nailed it haha
I used to be a subscriber of Nick and I remember that during one of his videos he said something, I can’t remember what now, that threw me off to the point I unsubscribed at that moment. I know that whatever he said was degrading to women yet he claimed to support feminism, I noped out so fast.
twin... I CAN'T REMEMBER THE VIDEO EITHER but it was absurd 🤨 how can you claim to support feminism and then dunk on a woman who is literally just like... existing? i'm pretty sure it had to do with body, s/xuality, or something similar. he ducks behind the cover of 'feminism' any chance he can, it's sooo obvious that his support only extends to when it makes his life easier.
I remember when he was looking at the SZA situation with his girlfriend they had a really fucked up take that put me off of him (and his gf)
exactly same here
Same! I think it was possibly the Lizzo lawsuit but I'd been avoiding his videos for a while because of the way he talked about women was bugging me.
exact same thing happened to me 😭
This probably explains why I watch stuff like Danny, Jarvis, Kurtis, and Drew and usually avoid Nick’s videos. He always gave me a strange vibe.
It’s pretentious body language and language that you noticed, Jarvis is pretty chill and makes fun but doesn’t act as if he’s above everything, same with Danny, I don’t know about Kurtis or Drew cause I don’t know what creators those people are but watch out for the pretentious fucks Ethanisonline and NickisNotGreen.
Same.
And Chad Chad
Literally same! I watched him for a little but he was too negative for me
me too not so much now Tho because I usually watch Storytime vids
As someone who watched OG Nick, I’m disappointed in him. I noticed the nose dive into grimy behavior in the past year and dipped
same! it took me a while to figure out why i started to really feel revolted watching his videos, i realized he got a big head and his true colors starting showing through. i think his rise to fame of sorts due to his quickness in dropping videos showed his greed and need to stay relevant. and his relationship being shown in his videos always rubbed me the wrong way. it’s not that i don’t care about these creators lives, but i watch the creator, i like collab videos. but if i don’t vibe with the other people in the video i will
stop watching. and that’s what i did.
same here, I feel like his old videos were decently well researched and had more integrity. as he got more popular he clearly got more greedy and less caring
Me too! I used to follow him when he only had a couple thousand subscribers and stopped watching because I felt so icky after watching his content. Now it makes sense why I felt icky.
he's just boring now
YEP. I watched Nick's streams every single night back in 2021, and became a very well-known viewer in his chat. Eventually, I even joined his Twitch team and streamed with him a couple of times. However, from then to now, his content has changed ENTIRELY. He used to be such a sweet, comforting, down-to-earth creator. This cannot be further from who he is on RUclips nowadays. It's a huge disappointment and genuinely makes me so sad to see.
The most embarrassing thing about this is how confident Nick is about everything he is saying💀 If you’re not educated on the situation, don’t talk about it!!
Same guy assuming people who doesnt share his opinions on a subject havent read into it enough is infact, not as educated about situations as he puts himself out to be? That speaks for itself
i still remember when i was a kid my dad telling me some bs fact about outer space... and i was like "wow thats cool" and he responded with "no actually thats a lie... but if you say anything with confidence people will believe you." so ye... if you speak confidently enough the majority of your audience won't even question it. it's so easy to spread misinformation online.
I think it's because he knows his viewers will not search on the subject after the video
He can just spread misinformation and get away with it because he uses morals as a shield :/
So....those Cody Ko comparisons aged like milk
I think the most telling moment for me (as a relatively recent subscriber of his, unsubscribed now) was when he reacted to the video of the woman on the plane (“that motherfucker is not real”). He said that if it were a mental health episode, she should’ve warned everyone beforehand that she has mental health issues. I was so shocked by that ignorant suggestion, like… he repeatedly stated mentally ill people need to warn others about potential breakdowns or panic attacks because it could freak out the strangers around them. I could tell at that point he was just talking out of his ass. I’m not exaggerating when I say that he was going on and on about mentally ill people needing to disclose their diagnoses in public to a crowd. As if that wouldn’t be immediately called attention seeking? As if that wouldn’t be more disruptive and awkward?
but also, why would we tell strangers about our mental health problems? we can't prevent a psychosis episode or a panic attack, usually. so it doesn't make sense. and plus, the woman did no harm to anyone during her episode. i honestly hate how the internet made fun of her, when we don't know what she's going through. imo, people online have gotten way more comfortable with making fun of others these past few years. the "love surge" video is the proof that people will literally make fun and be mean over anything! that couple is so sweet and it's clear they love each other. yet, the woman got death threats and horrible comments said just because of that video and the way she acts with her husband. when all they do is just... share their love online. and people were calling it cringey and sending death threats etc. like, if someone isn't harming anyone, and they're sharing things they love, their interests etc. we shouldn't make fun of them. as for the woman on the plane, imo, we shouldn't make fun of people without knowing their stories first. sure, at first it was funny, for some. but who knows what she was going through? sorry for rambling, haha.
That’s so fucking weird lmao??
Holy shit yeah I watched that video...I remember afterwards it had left a bad taste in my mouth, but ultimately I thought it was because of what the comments were saying (the ones that agreed with Nick) rather than what he himself said, even though they were just repeating his stance on the situation. Wow, there were a lot of signs I missed.
I completely missed that. What a wild take. Are we supposed to warn about physical health issues, too? Maybe make it easier by wearing a special “careful, I’m crazy!” vest to warn to public everywhere we go 🙄 absolutely wild
@@bagandbroad I want a careful I’m crazy vest now 😂
I used to actively watch Nick, and I agree with you on basically everything. I always found it weird how if you disagreed with him on any way, he'd treat you like a lower life form. It felt like he would use things such as feminism as a weapon to criticize people no matter what and if you disagreed you'd be a misogynistic reddit bro. Great video btw!
It's the Hasan Piker certified method of handling criticism
yeah i used to as well and never thought anything of him just another danny or drew or kurtis or jarvis or sum but i dropped him
You can also see it in his friend Ethan too. They’re both just blatantly bad people who are masquerading as the moral compass. They always seemed quite arrogant to me.
Same experience. What disappointed me was when he deflected and became a bully to the Super Mega situation, even if he was defending a friend, his use of their friend's death was totally uncalled for and very disrespectful. It's like he lost all those progressive ideals and not getting all the facts.
I used to watch him too as well as Mr Beard & the other one I forget the name of but is just as equally a bitch & they all always gave me the vibe that they think they’re superior in a sense
that was so creepy when that woman was talking abt comments wishing she'd get sa'd, and his girlfriend gasped in horror and covered her mouth and nick just had this huge smile on his face and glanced at her expecting to see a similar expression on her face. i think he thought she was smiling behind her hand because then he copied the gesture. one of them was covering an expression of horror and dismay, and the other was covering an expression of sadistic glee. like wtf was he smiling at? that was so odd.
EDIT: time stamp 46:39
Yes!
that video was so uncomfy!! it seemed like him and dev had very different reactions
Dev (Nick's gf and the woman in the video) is such a creative, interesting, talented person.
I'm so scared for her that he's likely policing her weirdness behind the scenes. If not directly, then with passive-aggressive put downs and the threat of him thinking she's "cringe".
It will absolutely kill her creativity and her future in the arts.
It may be a bit of a reach, but I've experienced the same thing multiple times.
I know the warning signs now, but I still have to dodge a lot of insecure, uninteresting men looking to leech off of my energy and ultimately cage me.
Seeing that clip was like looking in a mirror. It's terrifying
Link to video?
@@passwordyeah729 the clip im referring to is in this video
Even before the supermega videos, his content felt like it was becoming lazy and kinda mean. So glad someone finally said it
i’ve unsubscribed from so many people is recent times because of them being bad people. it’s not a “boo hoo they aren’t perfect!” it’s that they genuinely aren’t good people. it makes me sad people i spent so much time watching and supporting monetarily turn out so bad
> *it’s not a “boo hoo they aren’t perfect!”*
Meh, people who jump to it being solely a "boo hoo" thing w/o evidence (and without considering it is because the person unsibbing legit has reason to feel the person is a bad person) IMO are being stupid, and not worth wasting brain cells on.
@@DanknDerpyGamer i’m talking about people getting upset because a content creator isn’t acting the way they want them to in a parasocial way. having bad vibes about a creator and not watching them is valid.
same. it’s one thing to fuck up and then apologise, but i just don’t believe nick is sorry here which is unfortunate
Sadly i think it's similar to the promotion problem.
Why are the people who are rude, abrasive, incompetent and egotistical go for positions of power?
Because it allows them to control the narrative, the flow of the discussion and direct blame away from themselves to look better by comparison.
I feel like content creation has become the same way.
People looking to make a big channel arent doing it to create something, but to chase money/views.
They'll use anyone and everything, tearing down others just to grow or keep afloat.
They dont care about being right, or what is good for the parties involved - just that they look good and the cash keeps flowing.
And then their fans will accuse you of 'cancel culture' & it's like wtf?
Is it absolutely disgusting to DEMAND an apology for someone who literally just made a cringey (but ultimately unharmful and kinda sweet) video and in the same breath blame them for the threats they recieve for simply not being more "normal"
Its also weird to me bcs people go around saying how we should be kind and that the world is full of this and that but when someone shares anything that is sweet, even if cringey for some, they try to eat them alive with some weird hate. Like w h a t
Especially because if I recall, Nick has spoken about his struggles with ADHD. There were plenty of neurodivergent people in the comments talking about how they understood or related to "love surging," so idk I would expect him to know firsthand about not being "normal" in regards to societal expectations.
Yes this exactly! I honestly thought “it’s a little cringey sure, but honestly so cute.” Like for the internet I knew they’d get flamed, but people were MEAN. they’re a happy couple who love each other and the way they show that is extremely sweet and genuine. They didn’t deserve that hate or to be made fun of.
@@once.upon.a.time. tbf love surging doesnt really have anything to do with ADHD, I have ADHD and ngl my first reaction when seeing that love surge video was to cringe as well (although I would never bully or insult that couple for that video because it's ultimately harmless and it aint that deep). I get your point though about how you probably wouldn't expect a ND person to go around telling others to just be normal, but it honestly seems like that comment was made out of pure ignorance and Nick didnt realise that the love surge thing is something that quite a few ND people do (not justifying his behaviour ofc, he came across as quite mean spirited in his video instead of just making dumb harmless jokes like he could have).
@@FirstnameLastname-zq8oy I think they just meant that they found it odd how Nick would bully people for behaviors he doesn't understand, regardless of whether or not they are neurodivergent, simply because he has been open about his alleged ADHD. For someone to be allegedly neurodivergent (so you'd assume he understands that we have different behaviors), to then go on and mock people for having different behaviors, was very very weird. It's almost like he's using ADHD as a shield to say "but I'm not ableist though" in case stuff like this happens.
There is absolutely spaces for people like Danny, Drew, Cody, Jarvis, Jordan, Ted, and Eddie. By that I mean feel good, silly, fun commentary with a non-conservative underlying view point. That being said, I think you nailed it in saying that Nick is in fact a wolf in sheep’s clothing. He has always been kind of arrogant, and although I used to watch him with some regularity, something always felt a little insincere.
I think the difference in them is the effort and care they put into it. It's so clear the others try hard and love this. It just feels like Nick wants to be popular and make money in the easiest way.
YES, exactly, something always felt off to me
For real. Those guys spend like a month on each video. I unsubbed when Nick started doing daily TikTok reaction videos while explaining confidently he was doing it specifically because it was getting him more views than ever.
the obsession with getting to a topic first just made it to where he had to spam out videos with no effort at all. most of the time, he was just watching a trending tiktok and laughing at it?? his newer videos just felt so lazy and unnecessarily opinionated. there was never any proper insight, it was like he was just blind reacting to stuff and trying to fill a time limit.
have people forgotten about cody and noel essentially being andrew tate apologists??? wild
He should’ve stuck to stupid tik tok quarrels. He’s very out of his depth and is so full of himself to think he’s this beacon of truth and activism
agree, it’s blatant virtue signaling
@NotVille_why did you just copy and pasted their comment lol
they are a bot i've seen them do this in tens of replies already@@______________url
@@______________urlbot probably
While I agree he should've stayed in his lane, there is definitely pressure from the audience (especially on the left) to "use your platform" to speak on more important things. This is why that's a bad idea that we shouldn't encourage, some creators can't handle the deep end and do more harm than good.
I unsubscribed a month ago. As a survivor of SA and relationship ab*se, I hate how he weaponized his progressive audience to take down supermega. Me included, I consider myself a leftist. And while I didn’t send supermega any hate, I took everything he said at face value because why would he embellish a serious story like this? Stuff like this sets us back because people think ALL of it is lies and then won’t believe victims. Makes me angry and it’s the opposite of what he says he wanted to do.
Edited to add as I finished the video: I have a full time job in a pharmacy, Nick. I’m not a “reddit incel” and I spend 40 hours on my feet being mistreated and underpaid. But sure. I’ll go get a real job.
@NotVille_inappropriate
Agreed. I liked him but his streams in particular always had a belittling vibe. I watched the supermega video and was upset, but waited to make any sort of consensus until all parties had said their input. I found it really strange how people on his side interacted with each other, it all felt sinister
I was an og fan too, and i had to take my leave off every platform of his. it was terrible, i mean it really made me realize he was bad when he made the deleted airplane lady video. where he claims hes an advocate for health and women, and yet immediately resorted to calling the woman crazy or under the influence. she was having a breakdown, but okay nick. Also im in uni and work a ob ive had for a year, my first ever job. So again, crazy he thinks his fans old and new are idiots.
@@hawyeefish4846uhh you have two accounts there bud?
@@adriandaniels1 huh? What do you mean? Is there a duplicate or is this sarcasm? (This isn't meant to come off in a bad I genuinely am confused)
I love how he is such a leftist but I’ve seen multiple videos of him fat shaming women and also just making fun of women in general
Which videos in specific? /genq
@@silly-guy-woounrelated but I like your profile pic ^o^ welcome home is great
wait what when
Wait in america have being fat or not is political?
This. His Ashley Gavin video was the first one that kinda icked me cause he started off by making fun of her comedy style which is mostly jokes about being gay & being into women. I get that it's not for everyone but the way he made fun of it and called it cringe really irked me. He's not in any way part of that culture and his opinions on it are thus completely irrelevant and honestly distract from the valid criticisms that there were towards Ashley's crowdwork. Like, maybe don't try to speak for sapphic women as a cis(het?) guy.
It's a very basic leftist thing to leave criticism of a thing affecting minorities to the actual damn minority groups. Which isn't saying you can never address anything but you shouldn't be the first to open your mouth and try to decide what other people should think about it.
I watched a few of his vids when he first blew up, thinking and hoping it would be similar content to Kurtis, Drew Gooden etc., but was quickly turned off by his superiority complex and blatant disregard and disrespect for those he's covering. I am so so so not surprised he's landed himself in hot water. Refreshing to see someone call out another on actual bullshit. Great video!
Exactly! How did he collaborate with some humble and well-meaning people?
Thank Christ. I’ve been waiting for a RUclipsr to point out his behavior for a while. Ditched the kid after he called me and a large group of women “bozos” for telling him to chill on the Manosphere content bc all he could contribute was “haha man stupid and bad” 😭 like god forbid we ask a man to reevaluate their content and what it actually adds to the conversation
Dude had a full meltdown and of COURSE used the excuse that he was “defending his friends” bc some other YT names were brought up
that was what made me stop watching too! like, if you’re going to talk about a topic which affects an oppressed group, you should listen to that oppressed group when they tell you they dislike how you speak about it! the fact that he immediately got defensive and essentially threw a tantrum really grossed me out and i couldn’t watch him after that 😭
@@applejuice1630definitely! He says he lifts up women and makes their voices heard and dismisses them when they dont like what he's doing. Literally just makes it look like he's pretending to care but in reality thinks women are overly sensitive
It’s so obvious based on his recorded actions & things he’s said that he thinks of himself as an ally up until someone from the group he’s allying with disagrees with something he says or does, then being an ally goes out the window for him 😂
@@jordanmachuca6087 I mean not to stick up for him in this situation but you obviously cant listen to all women or all men, despite it being a gendered issue. Context and who these people are matters as well. Like it Andrew tate said stop doing incel videos I wouldnt take him too seriously
I used to be a fan of Nick but I guess I just got a bad gut feeling and left and I'm glad I did.
Exactlyyyy me too! I just didn’t like his attitude and his weird preachy-ness
SAME
Me too
Same. I watched him casually but I got a weird feeling and here we are
Same. I started following him when he was still pretty small but over time I started to get a bad feeling about him and stopped watching his content. I can’t say whether or not it’s because I just matured/realised what was already there, or he really did get more outwardly weird though.
the thing that pissed me off the most is nick never focused on the guy who sa'd his friend. the guy who was still raking in thousands a month on his patreon months after. i still don't get why he'd focus on supermega when don was facing hardly any repercussions and he was the person who actually hurt his friend???
Because the larger his audience’s target is, the more views and attention his videos will get
@@maddieb.4282 yeah thats why it pissed me off. he clearly gives 0 shits about victims and it was all for money and attention.
I dont even understand this drama like she was sexually assaulted and the assaulter got fired. Like where is the drama?????
people just want to protect r*pist males no matter what
They actively did everything she wanted and nick decided "but **I** don't think that's good enough, so you suck" and just made everything worse
@@commiedog425 she made a video saying they covered it up
tbh i've only seen 2-3 of his videos bc he lowkey gave me the vibes of the guy you befriend in high school and wonder why he doesn't have many friends and then you slowly realize he's actually just a pos and other ppl don't like that so they stay away. but this is still insane wow
Yes, perfect description of the vibe
That literally describes him perfectly. He had objectively decent takes about misogyny as a whole but that by no means makes him a reliable feminist ally, he really showed his arrogance
whats pos
@@goblinoK it’s short for piece of shit haha
Dude yesssss. I wanted to like him so much but I couldn't ever get into his channel. That's like legit the perfect comparison to his character
I used to find Nicks stuff funny, but he progressively got meaner, then came his long super mega video and I absolutely hated the fact that he brought up their friend’s death and doxed Matt’s relationship. The final straw was Matt’s video that blatantly disproved what Nick said. A commentary channel should remain unbiased and definitely shouldn’t lie to creat a narrative
Exactly! He used to be so silly and funny but now in his new content he’s blinded by his emotions or is just completely hateful for no reason. I don’t know what he’s become but I’m extremely disappointed.
This cannot be said enough: "A commentary channel should remain unbiased". Political discussion has become so polarizing lately that even if you only do feet reviews you'll be asked to "make a public statement about the war in Palestine" (like bro come on). There is a time and a place for these kinds of discussions, and an unrelated channel is not one of them.
Not only does it dilute the seriousness of the issue, but it's also extremely weird for the people who may already be versed in these topics to hear about something they already know and agree with; if anything, it feels like rage bait to me. Besides, imagine you're NOT educated on these topics--how fucking strange would it be to go from years of "teehee meme video" to "hey just a reminder murder is bad :/". Like hey man, we know. Maybe try talking to actual politicians about it since they are the ones who hold the power in these circumstances!!! Wtf am I gonna do by tweeting?
The fact is, people who want to BE right are mean. People who want to DO right will simply do what's right. Nick has shown where he stands...
This I couldn't find the words I stopped watching him a year or two ago unless he colabs with Jarvis or any of the other guys I like he's friends with because he started to just feel negative and like the video said he talks like everyone is dumb but him
At the beginning of the year, I discovered Nick’s channel for the first time. I watched some of his older videos and enjoyed them. And then I watched his most recent video at the time and I couldn’t help but think “oh…. He’s just… mean” it sounds stupid said like that, but considering he is in the same type of content as Danny and Drew, it immediately hit me how neither of them would ever talk this way about the person they were covering. It turned me off and I’ve had him in my not recommended since
a commentary channel CANNOT remain unbiased. no one can. even attempts to remain unbiased can sometimes just fall within the overton window, without actually "reviewing all sides".
he said “victims should be heard”, while not listening to the victim 💀
"Victims should be seen not heard" by nicksfullofcrap lol 😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
I've never gotten good vibes from him. Creators have a responsibility with the content they put out into the world to thousands and thousands of people; we have the power to cause a lot of harm if we don't treat our content with care. So many creators get lost in the pursuit of views and revenue that they don't stop to think about the consequences. If you're gonna dish it out, people are going to dish it back.
100%, well said.
I kept trying to get into nicks content because he kept collabing with creators I like but his tone has always been so off to me. The way he would cut things and blatantly lie is absolutely insane. Also hugely against the way they acted about matt and ryans grieving via comedy and even being mad at the deceased those are such normal stages to go through, it really feels like he's never lost someone and can't comprehend that not everyone reacts the same and that the stages are less a road and more a roulette wheel on any given day.
Yes! I tried to push away my icky feelings because he seemed close to Jarvis and Mr. Beard. I’m really disappointed.
Same. Honestly it kind of makes me sick knowing that he's friends with so many other content creators I respect. I feel like recently there's definitely been a separation as I haven't seen him pop up anywhere near Eddy Drew Danny etc and only seen him with Hasan (seems like a perfect pair) and other lowlife scum who would collab with him.
I used to not get it that bad but my dad died yesterday and I Literally have only been joking about it 😂😂😂. cause he was the one that gave me my humor somewhat
@@ghoulishtoadI'm sorry for your loss. I hope you can take the time to grieve how you need to ❤
@ryanmackenzie6109 Thank u that means a lot 💓
Thank you for making this. It definitely took me too long to realize that Nick actually DIDNT research his topics. With his video about Rosanna and Mr. Beast, the fact that he didn’t even know who she was AND DIDNT LOOK IT UP, it was such a shock. She is one of THE FIRST RUclipsrs, super well known and he totally brushed her off. All of the other videos of his I watched and took at face value because I thought he actually did research…I am glad more people are seeing this.
surprised more ppl aren't talking about this video, nick was so misogynistic the whole time leaving her name out of the title & acting like no one knows who she is just because he didn't, i can't even watch him anymore
@@emms6039I thought the same. She literally hosts tv shows on the food network & he’s saying she’s unknown??? I thought it was telling when he was being kinda misogynistic towards Rosanna while she was straight up calling out the misogyny she experienced.
So not researching is a regular behavior for him.. I stopped watching him when he mocked Serena Shahidi and people told him that she puts on a comedic character for her videos and even then, he didn’t acknowledge that he did anything wrong.
This is exactly why I never stuck around his videos. He brings no worthwhile commentary and all he ever says is “idk that much this is just my opinion.” Maybe do more research then? 💀 might as well ask chatgpt to give me a summary instead
@@emms6039i remember being so off put by this as well and i was a fan at the time he released it
Nick having to put his shirt over his mouth to hide the fact that he's laughing at a woman getting r*pe theats over being mildly cringy is... smth else
I feel like even if we ignore the shady vibes we get when we watch him, he also doesn’t add anything to the things he covers. He just reads receipts and goes “yep… thats the situation”
Yeah it's so weird in comparison to his brother that actually takes time to get everything. No matter the nicheness of what Austin covered he had multiple angles, first hand accounts and thorough research to support his claims.
How Nick constantly delivers something along the lines of "I'm an ally and I care for women's rights" has a malicious vibe. Men absolutely MUST be caring and respectful to women, and to prove it is through substantial actions. Like sure you can say that you care and support women every once in a while to inform people where you stand about women's rights. Repeatedly saying it like you're a broken clock is the same creepy, malicious energy as self-proclaimed nice guys saying they're "nice guys".
Yeah this is how i feel. If the topic comes up it makes sense to say it. But if you actually are a good person you don't usually have to go out of your way to tell people.
Ehh. The people who care if you say it demand that you say it every other sentence.
@@noonyabeezniss4911 nobody?
Every human being deserves a basic level of respect and care from their fellow human beings.
@NotVille_ Bro💀
The thing is, you wouldn't need to repeat your stance on something if you actually showed it with your own actions y'know
Nick legit comes off like that strawman male feminist early Anti-SJWs made up to make fun of chicks in their bedrooms.
lmao this is 100% spot on
I thought your pfp was Mike/kid named finger
they're usually the type who are actually pretty sexist themselves and haven't actually re-examined their beliefs/behaviour, they just talk a lot about it. not to say men can't be passionate about feminism or whatever, but you can usually tell when they're performative
Nah, Nosferatu - respect lol@@oo-vivian
@@hinasakukimiYes. People like him don't support feminist because they like women, they support feminism because it's an ideal trsit for a good person and they are cosplaying as good people.
I always felt like nick thought too highly of himself, he thinks he's better than the people he claims to care about. Sometimes being progressive is just an ego booster for people who like to think they are superior.
Says a lot about them if "I care about other people's rights" is their idea of a huge superiority boost 💀
yeah same, i never liked him lol
And the fact that he has a successful RUclips channel, I can only imagine how he changed to the people around him once He got big. Outside validation is the best type of validation.
2:32 Literally! I used to be a huge fan, until about 2 years ago. Nick has a friend Ro who was trying to break into the commentary sector as well, and I made a comment on one of their videos saying the actual start of the video was @ the 8min mark, implying the intro took entirely to long. Admittedly unnecessary, but harmless. Ro responded to my comment on YT, then went on to post it on Twitter where I just so happen to come across it because it said “liked by nick green”, and I followed him. I responded to Ro’s tweet that called me out for being a “troll” essentially, and doubled down on not only what I said, but also how the YT comment had my first and last name in it, and that it was incredibly unnecessary and weird for them to post this on Twitter especially because they had already commented back on YT and I didn’t say anything super negative to begin with. In response to the my name thing, Nick QT’d my post, and said something along the lines of “if you cared about your privacy don’t leave mean comments” (idr exactly all of this has since been deleted) that Insighted people to say some crazy shit to me. Once people actually started to stand up for me and agree with me when I tweeted back saying it’s not that I care about my privacy, I understand that I made a public comment, it’s about the unequal power imbalance between some random girl (me) vs. two creator’s fan bases for something so insignificant is actually so crazy. The OG post was then deleted, and Ro “apologized” and said they over reacted due to stress, and insecurity over being a new creator essentially (again, idr exactly) Nick (who’s fans said more than Ro’s) said nothing, and I had randoms in my inbox for weeks. Luckily for me, I didn’t take the weird shit they said to me seriously, but just imagining someone else who might not have as tough of skin in that position makes me sad. It’s real loser energy, and I feel like he actually doesn’t understand the power he yields by having such a self righteous fan base who will pop off on anyone who says anything opposing or criticizing. People disagree all the time, and some people aren’t nice about it. That doesn’t give him the right to sick his fans on anyone he feels “deserve” it.
That is really fucked up. I am so sorry you experienced that.
Woah wait I think I remember that comment. It was actually super helpful because my ADHD can make long introductions hard to pay attention to if I don’t know how long they are. Knowing how far in the essay proper starts helps me stay focused better and made the video more enjoyable
It’s very apparent he ran head first into the video about Lex because he legitimately thought it’d be his big break. The way he dumped her when she was no longer of use to him is the biggest indicator for me.
it would make her look worse if they stayed together after this train of lies honestly.
@fondue542 Even if she wasn't lying, what on EARTH gives Nick the right to be so public about that? Not only is it NOT his fight, but he is NOT a woman, and he was NOT there, and he had NO evidence to back up his claims.
Believing and supporting your friend is one thing, but if you are going to throw around false allegations for someone else, PUBLICLY ON RUclips, then it is LITERALLY YOUR JOB to provide empirical evidence.
It honestly just seems like he wanted the clout from being the spearhead for a huge creator takedown.
He also stated in the original video that he and Leighton are friends. But then in the second video where he explains himself, he says they’re not friends at all.
I hate how Nick's behavior is simultaneously disappointing and not surprising, I genuinely hate it. I was subscribed to him and actively watched him a few years ago, during the pandemic, when he'd make more lighthearted funny commentary videos, but eventually unfollowed way before the situation with SuperMega because the way he acted was already coming off the wrong way for me. He started having this "holier than thou" attitude even with small things, and like the only way you'd disagree with him on his OPINIONS (not facts) is if you're stupid or actively malicious, which really didn't sit well with me. As well as the overt performative feminism - everytime I see a guy who's THIS vocal about feminism, I always get the feeling that he's just using it to boost his own image, and Nick was doing exactly that. Now look at what he's doing. Using feminism and a woman's SA story as a weapon to boost his popularity and attack others, and then throw her under the bus the second he's affected. What a feminist.
You nailed it right on the head with your analysis of his behavior.
"everytime I see a guy who's THIS vocal about feminism, I always get the feeling that he's just using it to boost his own image"
Exactly this. You put it into words. There are people like The Speech Prof, Cyzor, Shaun, etc. who, to me at least, seem like they genuinely believe in what they say. Idk the vibes feel correct. Then there's people like Nick and a couple others whom I don't wanna mention that just make me feel uncomfortable when they talk about feminism or queer people. It just feels performative,
@@Saphia_ yeah! i feel like the most meaningful support to feminism that a guy can give is the... consistent but silent one. as in, you can tell where he stands by his actions and how he speaks about things in general, how he speaks about women, how he treats them, etc, not by how many buzzwords he's speaking to virtue signal. I wanna believe there's a part of Nick that means well, but he's a huge let down.
@@kenmagoesblep Yes, exactly! You put it perfectly. Show it through your actions, not just through words and show it consistently.
Him and Ethan always felt by far the most high horsey of the group of creators to me, and while MrBeard has had some off statements at times and can be a bit pretenious Beard seems to have some deeper nuance and understanding on such than these two did.
These two felt like weak links in the way they came off as people even if I still previously enjoyed their content contently.
Far more one dimensional than the rest, far less nuanced than the others who try to make points and far less funny than those who aimed for entertainment.
@@_-Lx-_i would consider myself a pretty far leftist but i cannot for the life of me stand those 3 creators, i just absolutely loathe and despise the holier than thou attitude all of them have regarding any topic especially pertaining to anything to do with culture or politics. Like even if i agree with them at the core of their argument, the way they execute their opinions come off as such egotistical self confirming hot air. I firmly believe they only believe the things they believe is because of how it tailors their image, maybe not as much for mr beard but i do think its a contributing factor.
I've been a casual fan of Nick, so when this video was recommended I thought I'd listen to some potential criticisms. Not only was this video extremely well composed, but it also provided a lot of insight as someone who would watch Nick's videos when I didn't have time to research internet drama. I was fully engaged throughout the entire hour of this video and you reminded me what genuine commentary is supposed to look like. Great vid, you just gained a new subscriber!
i’m on the exact same situation and i’m beyond heartbroken. i mainly watch his drama videos like booktok etc. but half of this stuff is shocking to me
same here! thank you for having the words for my thoughts because I was trying to figure out how I'd go about commenting 😅
yea same
I went to his channel because of Danny, Drew, and Kurtis. I was expecting someone similar to those respectable creators, but what I saw was someone VERY mean-spirited. I soon unsubscribed after seeing a video similar to this a few months back because their points matched what I saw when watching his videos. The same happened for Cody too, so disappointed.
as a woman, i had a strong gut feeling that nick was just another “male feminist” but i knew nothing about the dramas surrounding him bc i dont watch his content. thank you for this video 🙏
edit: been going through the comments, and it’s crazy & intriguing how many of us have had the same experience as former viewers of nick. when i said i don’t watch his content, what i really meant was that i don’t watch it _anymore_ - i started watching him early on bc of the collabs he did w danny, jarvis, etc. i was glad to see more of the commentary content i enjoyed but at some point i became so severely put off by him that i stopped watching completely & pressed “do not recommend” whenever he came up in my suggested. i can’t even remember if he did or said something specific, i just became unsettled by him. he actually weirdly reminded me of an ex i had who was a big proponent of leftist politics in public, but was awfully emotionally abusive to me in private ☠️☠️ not accusing nick of anything here, just saying that he gave off a two faced/disingenuous vibe to me
What do you mean with “male feminist “
You make it sound like a very negative thing.
@@kenma5176 as in a guy who publicly espouses feminism in order to garner positive attention, but in reality does not engage critically with the ideology or even acts as the active antithesis of said values
it does not refer to any guy who is a feminist, it refers to the ones who are disingenuous about it
@@amatullah4819oh Oke thanks for the clarification. I totally agree. I thought that you mean actual feminism coming from men
@@amatullah4819 I dont think hes done it specifically to garner attention. but id agree that he likely doesnt engage in it critically, and he is online for being a youtuber. I havent watched this video yet but I had noticed Nicks videos going from commentary style to MrBeast style videos and I always felt that was a weird change that signaled his want for "RUclips fame" vs doing what he likes/is good at.
@@kenma5176trust me, there is absolutely nothing wrong with men being on the side of women’s rights, keep going, we love it. However, do not do it for the wrong reasons (attention, just to get people off your back, gain sexual pleasure, etc).
The most bizarre thing about the Love Surge video is that it went against all his other takes about accountability. He had posted a video about those two girls who made faces at an influencer taking selfies at a sporting event, and while he agreed that they had been mean, he pointed out that the tiktokers trying to dox them and review bombing their workplaces were just as bad, if not worse. So he clearly understands disproportionate retribution.
And then he went and treated a harrassment victim like she was making a Colleen Ballinger level apology video.
Honestly, Nick was given a good start because he was (i believe) one of Kurtis Conner's editors in the past. And because he had collabs with Kurtis, Drew, and Danny it helped boost the fans opinion of Nick. Because Kurtis, Drew, and Danny are so beloved by the commentary youtube community, and they made videos with Nick, it made a bias in the fans' minds that Nick is a good guy, just like them.
But as Nick started posting higher volume and lower quality, you could see the flaws more in his opinions and his words. Like.. I originally only watched his videos because of his collab with Kurtis. Yet, the more I watched Nick the more I thought that he wasn't researching anything he was talking about. He seems to even lie about things that are easily proven false. It's bizarre.
He made me feel so uncomfortable in the video where he was laughing at Sorb3t and Berry-chan.. because like?? Cringe is not a crime. But he acts like people deserve to be bullied for being cringe. Which made me sad. Like.. you can poke fun at things you find cringey without being an asshole. Like.. to me, Nick feels like he has been trying to roll with the "big boys" but doesn't seem to actually understand the integrity and authenticity that these larger and more liked commentary channels have. If that makes sense? He just seems like a little brother trying to keep attention on him but fumbling when there's consequences because he's used to just being given a pass for being a generally good person or coddled by his family/friends..
Especially when the “big three” (Kurtis, Danny, and Drew) never actually come off as mean-spirited in their videos. When they make videos about weird TikToks, bad movies, or internet personalities, they always poke fun at the CONTENT and not the PERSON, in a way that avoids feeding into or encouraging bullies. Hell, even Kurtis made a video exploring the harm done by cringe culture as a response to his own past jokes. So many of Nick’s videos (Sorb3t, “Love Surge”, etc) feel like typical cringe culture “point and laugh” cruelty, just with the “drama commentary” label slapped on.
Also another point to mention here is that because Kurtis, Drew and Danny take longer time with their videos, they take the time to ensure they arent being in bad taste. But when it comes to nick who was constantly putting out content because he wants to be the quickest one to talk about soemthing, he stops giving a shit what he talks about
Yeah this is accurate. I think I was introduced to him in a video of Danny's where he barely did anything. I have watched a few of his videos just trying to give him a shot, which is way more than I would have done if I saw one of his videos and didn't know he was associated with other creators I like (think I've seen like... maybe 5 of nick's videos). It can be hard to tell how bad his takes are at first because his content is styled like he's just having a chat with his viewers, so you subconsciously kind of forgive the relaxed/unprofessional nature of it. It's also kind of boring af content so it's easy to space out and miss things...
But yeah, if you watch a few videos of his you really quickly realize that there's something super off about him. I couldn't really put my finger on what it was, and I wouldn't have pegged him for a liar or someone who colludes to lie about people, but I can't say it surprises me I guess.
Like... totally
totally agree oh my god i was an early fan and found him through danny, but i stopped watching when it started to feel like he was talking out of his ass about things he didnt know anything about in every single video and then a few months later i got the Sorb3t video in my recommended and thats when i unsubscribed, it just came off as unnecessarily snarky and mean for something so harmless. from what i remember his older videos were way more light-hearted and over time it just started to feel...very boring and harsh.
So I did poli sci and journalism in college. Everyone else has taken care of the faux-feminism and etc, so I'll just mention that my GOD I hate 95% of the "commentary community" because they present themselves as serious journalists while holding themselves to NONE of the standards. The "I was just quoting her" and "I was reporting on what was said" is maddening simply because it's implying that a channel bears no responsibility in the decision of what to report. You don't need to opine on a topic to have flagrant bias in a video essay, all you have to do is cherry pick whose statements you show and how much of them. It was a DECISION to broadcast the accusations re: Daniel, and Nick not even taking THAT much accountability... ugh. If I was still in college I'd have a field day ripping these guys apart, so I'm glad you're here to do it for me lol
You should need a license to be a journalist, perhaps. A ethics license.
Yeah, any time he described himself as a reporter/journalist really was what turned me off-- its drama and gossip (nothing wrong w that but call it what it is!). its the same issue i have with Swoop. Never knew about the other stuff!
Stopped subscribing to Nick when I heard him unironically say that he was “a journalist” when reporting on a random tiktok drama. He seemed super serious and gave me the ick because I feel like you shouldn’t be able to just…label yourself as a journalist
I would even go so far as to argue that that kind of cherry-picking is worse and far more pernicious than a clearly marked opinion piece, because in the latter case you know what you're reading/watching.
Journalists don’t get to choose what goes on air/into publication anyway. Even if they present a fully unbiased story to an editor, that can be ripped to shreds and mostly the journalist appears responsible for the public backlash.
Basically, Nick actively chooses what he posts and takes even less responsibility than a journalist who can’t.
it's crazy how I actually used to watch and enjoy his content. Thank you for spreading messages about creators that need to be held accountable
Fr😭. Can’t even watch him the same no more.
@NotVille_bro whaaaat
@NotVille_nobody cares troll, cry about it
@NotVille_ that’s a crazy ass thing to say lmao
Same! I used to love his content (and his band queef jerky) and just 🧍 it sucks hes a terrible person
That line about Cody Ko didn’t age well
It’s just so frustrating that nick refuses to acknowledge that most of us that are upset with him used to be HIS fans, not SM fans. Instead we just get shit on and called names
Oh he's completely delusional now so it doesn't surprise me. He's too full of himself to admit maybe he went too mask off and exposed his own terrible personality to millions of subscribers. He's so... dumb.
Fr, I had no idea what SuperMega was before all of this
The SECOND Lex and Nick start rambling about Matt and Ryan’s personal lives, past relationships, old friends, and other completely unrelated shit… that’s when you lose your credibility.
As someone who has made a video calling out an old friend for being manipulative monster, you CANNOT ramble about completely unrelated stories. It will always make you look bad. Personally I think you gotta leave that shit OUT of your coverage if it’s not related at all.
Like c’mon… replaying the video of the dude getting punched in the face over and over??? C’mon Nick, do better
It makes it look more like your attacking someone, instead of trying to spread awareness of what they did
I could see he had some weird inclination to cruelty from little comments he made like that. It really seemed to me he likes watching people get hurt.
I saw it like this. Lex was legit making a video about her SA and as she went on you can tell her anger and resentment was starting to come out and everything that she had talked about in private just started spewing out. I get it but she fucked up badly.
@@Lippy802 for most of her video i couldnt stop thinking "okay, im sorry that happened, that really sucks, but.... why are you telling us this? What are you expecting us to do with this info? The first situation, regardless if you feel they handled it correctly or not, *WAS* handled, and the other things you shouldve handled offline too, not aired out on the internet"
Straight up, all of that back and forth talking about unrelated stuff made the initial story so difficult to follow and made everything that came out after so convoluted. Glad Jimmy's out here w receipts to help my old Dino brain keep it all straight lmao
i’ve been watching nick since his early days, and this video made me realize how he almost manipulates the audience into agreeing with him. i would watch his videos and then feel no need to do further research because he presented his speculations as facts. thank you for making this video, it was MUCH needed
A _lot_ of commentary/essayist RUclipsrs present their opinions as facts, and then they do the obligatory "of course I'm not perfect and right all the time uwu" humble shtick as if they didn't just spent the whole video implying that their critics are stupid 💀
Media analysis RUclips in particular is bad about this imo. I _love_ a 2 hour essay about the wildest theories but some people CLEARLY go into it seeing what they want to see and won't take any other answer whatsoever lmao.
yes i would do the same! i’d literally watch his videos (most of the time) and not really give a second thought on whatever he talked about. it was only recently i would watch his videos and have qualms on how he presented things. i was especially so upset with the love surge video. yes it was a funny thing, but in my opinion it was really heart warming and i thought with him being neurodivergent he would understand and stand up to people bullying them because i thought he was neurodivergent too (might be wrong). i say that because i see the neurodivergency of how the couple expressed their love and i could relate to them because i would get the same feelings and i saw other neurodivergent people expressing the same on nick’s video. was so disappointed in that video and there were others where i was disappointed/annoyed in his reactions and thoughts in videos. i recently stopped watching him too. just hope he actually grows and changes.
I didn’t even know about the drama until a few weeks ago and was very confused, I had to look up a lot of videos explaining what’s going on to understand
So, are you blaming him for not searching for more information?
Is it the patriarchy that caused that too?
@@TedEhioghae no I’m just saying since other people are sharing their experiences :)
I definitely feel like Nick is a virtue signaler. He's a lot like my fiancé's dad who'd I'd also consider one. Not really a person that believes in these things as much as a person that displays believing in them to be perceived like a righteous person. Doesn't necessarily make him a bad person, but definitely an annoying person to be around with that "holier than thou" attitude.
completely agree. watched a couple of vids and thought he seemed chill but the excessive virtue signalling was getting tiresome, and i gradually stopped watching. normally people who do that are the ones with the most skeletons in their closet
He lost me when he implied that an hour long conversation could be grooming if someone felt groomed. Couldn’t trust a single take out of him after that.
why would he say that 😭
48:28-49:19
Jesus Christ, this is an especially gross mask-off moment for Nick, what was he even thinking when he made those statements?! So much for being a champion for women experiencing harassment on the internet. "Yeah, people have been saying they hope you get SA'd, but you're annoying so fuck you." That's the vibe he gave in that clip. He seemed genuinely annoyed that she received some well-earned sympathy from that video of her crying and talking about the harassment.
THIS!!!!! That was so disgusting.
im not a big Nickisnotgreen fan and i haven't watched the full video yet but also i watched the video that clip is from and it was severely misrepresented here. he was clearly not trying to blame her or anything, he was just trying to explain how he thought it came off. In an unscripted format like that video, its a lot easier to take clips of it out of context, but overall he was clear she didn't deserve the harassment, and was only in that moment pointing out that it was a very internet-illiterate move that might have exacerbated the controversy.
As someone who actually watched the original video, i can say truly he didn't come off as annoyed, and wasn't saying anything close to "yeah, people have been saying they hope you get SA'd but you're annoying so fuck you" the only reason that clip gives off that vibe is because it was mischaracterized to present an argument. I don't blame you for taking this message away from that section, it's more Jimmy Robbin's fault for being dishonest or irresponsible with that clip.
I don't claim to say this proves anything about the video as a whole's accuracy, but it has certainly left a bad impression, that taints the rest of the video with a callous misrepresentation
Watching this video currently - in the first 5 minutes Jimmy shows thumbnails of his previous videos defending gus johnson, and calling sabrina abelina a liar which is kind of truly disgusting and makes me feel sick. Look into what happened if you don't already know. Jimmy does not care about women. Nickisnotgreen might not be perfect, but his biggest sin is being kind of mean and not very funny. Jimmy straight up refuses to believe women if they are victims. Kind of despicable in my opinion.
im so sorry for leaving THREE replies lol, but this video is filled with similar situations. He will take something nick said fully out of it's original context, and then rephrase it in his own words. He does this so poorly every time that he inadvertently called a woman's SA a "personal grudge." it deeply upsets me that you could watch this video and think that the person who is actively harming his reputation and livelihood to defend and show his support for a SA victim (his friend) is the one who pretends to be a champion for women. Jimmy has made multiple videos calling SA and abuse victims (who are women) liars, and is using the guise of being "the one not-sexist nickisnotgreen critic" to make some of the most obvious and worst misrepresentations i've ever seen. I never thought I would be defending nickisnotgreen but here i am because this comment section has the least rhetorical literacy in any place imaginable. Insane.
@weezerfan1232 You say it's misrepresented, and yet the video shows him laughing at a woman stressed over receiving death threats just for talking about how she loves her husband. I don't see how any amount of context could make that better. He only mentions how no, death threats arent okay actually, after he sees his girlfriends reaction. There is no way to read that clip as anything besides mean-spirited, full video or not. Nothing can help that.
honestly embarrassed that i used to watch such an inflexible, actually mean person.
Don’t be, this happened over time and much like the boiling frog analogy, you left when you realized. Everything he has said isn’t wrong, but he seems to have gone down a rabbit hole of hate. I watched too. And I stopped when I saw him doing this cruel stuff. Did it take me less or more time? Who cares. You did. Don’t be embarrassed. You are simply human like all of us.
The important part is, you're a person capable of empathy, personal reflection, and accountability. I'm sure nearly every single viewer of this video once supported him. Being honest with eachother and mutually supporting our differences in opinion has brought us all here to this comment section.
Have a grand day ❤
@@Mizzybelle.such a beautiful day.
Wishing all of you a good day and keep on being good people!💕💕💕
This thread is so sweet 💖
It happens... reminds us not to put content creators or anyone we don't know IRL on a pedestal. We only know what they choose to show us and it's carefully curated.
Honestly I hadn't noticed how manipulative he was in the way he was telling things until this video came out and frankly thank you for pointing it out, I wouldn't have noticed it on my own
Watched him for a couple months but I realized his attitude was always so negative and high and mighty. You put all my feelings into words.
Very true
I think Nick lulled me into feeling very safe from his content and not really expecting him to do such horrid things. That’s why it sadly took way too long for me to realize how bad some of the things he‘s done are.
I've kind of dropped off of watching his videos, mainly bc he posts them in bulk, and quite a few of them (such as the one about Rosanna) seemed disingenuous to me, so i dropped off. I was just kind of in a space like "he's had a few bad takes lately bc of how often he posts", but this video really made me realize how truly awful his behavior has been.
yea same here. I've been a fan for a while but I don't think I am anymore it really sucks :(
@@kit4114EXACTLY HOW I FEEL
@@kit4114i just got bored tbh
@@theswissmiss69 de isch vo ahfang ah richtig unsympathisch gsi und het nur videos gmacht wo er anderi mobbt und alles "cringe" findet. ka was da en "safe space" söt sie
It's really disappointing to see this happen. I watched Nick on and off for the longest time, and he became a comfort creator because I thought he wasn't an awful person (low bar ik). What I now see as a "holier than thou" "only one right answer" attitude I interpreted back then as a guy with really strong morals and values, and I admired that. Now after this, I look back on it distastefully. I felt cheated when this surfaced and had hoped his response would have been sufficient given that he openly criticizes so many people's apologies. Needless to say that was a let down as well. I'm done with him, and I hope he grows and actually learns the error of his ways, but I and so many others have chosen not be there to see it. This is just disappointing.
I'm sorry friend. It's a bitter, stomach-sick feeling when you realise a creator you trusted has lied so deeply to you about who they are. It's happened to me too. Every now and then, someone who I respected turns out to be trash. It doesn't get much easier to deal with, either.
@@33melonpaws77i agree
Same. I used to enjoy his content for being funny and entertaining, but also not taking itself too seriously and being honest.
At least until that that facade coming crumbling down. After this, I’m done with him, I’ve discovered creators who I believe are more trustworthy than Nick (hopefully. I dunno, my track record with RUclipsrs I watch not being horrible people hasn’t be great)
the way that he ALWAYS specifies when the person he's talking about is "a female" is sooooo offputting
NEVER liked that. weird shit
Fantastic video dude. So happy someone who isnt an edgelord or alt-right tuber has finally criticized this dude. Regardless, this is the most nuanced and informative take on Nick on the platform, and exposes Nick's terrible ethics perfectly.
Lmfao right, I despise Nick but I haven't watched a single video dunking on him until cuz they're all from wannabe leafy losers who aren't even approaching the situation/criticisms against him in good faith. Glad this video exists
You can't be edgy on the internet anymore??
@@Xvladin sure you can, but no one wants to listen to edgelords lol
@@cmlyn77 Why not? People don't like to listen to edgy things on the internet anymore? What happened?
@@Xvladin well i'm sure there are people who likes listening to edgelords but in general maybe it's just a shift in demographic. Edgy content was fun for me when i was younger, but i've grown past that and prefer watching content that isn't necessarily "edgy". So maybe that's just the case for a lot internet users
Bro imma say it, Nick came off EXTREMELY ableist during the love surge drama. The way that couple described "Love surge" is extremely similar to something a lot of Nerodivergent folk experience regarding strong bouts of emotions. I have several disorders, the way my emotions work varies much differently to the average NT. I can go days without feeling anything, and other times, I can get these massive surges of emotions that do genuinely affect me physically. I can get the "love surges" through viewing something or someone I love dearly, where even the sight of someone I care about will shoot a huge ass chunk of dopamine in my brain and I get shakey and excited. I need to talk to them, to hold them, be near them, because of how much they make me happy.
And seeing a huge ass bunch of people see that as cringey hurts. Perhaps the way the couple acted in the video is a little cringey, but they were just showing a part of themselves in a wholesome manner. And they got bullied for it.
And now I know another part of my ND is also unacceptable in the eyes of the public, and the next time I get one of those surges, its going to be automatically cut short and dropped into a deep depression when I remember Im not suppose to love someone like that.
So thanks, Nick. Thanks for telling others your essentially a freak for experiencing emotions the "wrong way". I had a "hate surge" watching your damn video.
THIS!!!! I agree with you. I totally understand that us ND people might do stuff that some people might find odd. It’s one thing to see someone do something unusual and think to themselves “well that was pretty weird” and move on. It’s a completely different thing to make an entire video making fun of that person and post it for a million followers to see and ridicule. People like this are all about how “mental health matters, bullying is bad” but apparently bullying is okay if the person deviates even a tiny bit from their definition of normal
One hundred percent!
same! i’m autistic and while i don’t personally experience that, i could understand it and i didn’t think it was cringe at all.
i have friends who do it too and i don’t think it’s weird. emotions are freaking overwhelming. i stim when i’m angry/nervous (and a lot of other people do without even realizing it, for example fidgeting), so is it really that weird to stim when you’re excited??
don’t let people like nick get you down < 3 they’re the ones that are truly cringe.
Omg i didn’t realize there was a name for it! I have ADHD and i get those kinds of emotional surges. I just figured i was overly sensitive and hyperemotional. I’m going to look into that now thank you!
If it helps even a little, there were hundreds of comments on that video talking about ND emotions and stimming and how "love surges" are a super harmless outlet for what can be an overwhelming experience for a lot of people. So many people, myself included, chimed in on why this is (or should be) a fine and normal thing. For me personally, it goes against my specific ND needs I would probably freak out if someone did it to me, but if it's consensual like...why does it matter to anyone else? It's so weird to care.
Nick represents a problem I have with a lot of very left-leaning content creators, where they don’t seem capable of nuance. Everyone is either totally with them or a complete monster.
!! this is why I really love kuncan dastner/Duncan kastner (lol) on RUclips, he makes a visible effort to use a lot of nuance and is one of the more ethical commentary youtubers that I've seen
@@anyacarter3077 he is one of my favourites! definitely encouraged me to reconsider the commentary youtubers i watch and aim for more nuance and empathetic commentary/criticism in what i watch and also what i think/say
@@anyacarter3077Dude literally couldn't see why people didn't want hot tub streams on twitch. Then you're being unaccepting of sex workers. Which was a wtf kind of thing. No mention of the problems women face with normalizing and encouraging this sexualization on the platform, and how female twitch streamers get treated by male viewers. No mention of the fact that there are no male hot tub streams where men are highly sexualized to even it out. Nope. Just sex worker: good. I support sex workers as much as the next genderfluid person, but come on. That was a HUGE lack of nuance.
Radicalists. Neo-liberal fascists are destroying the left. It makes me sad how many people are being influenced by them.
I think it's the outcome of grifting. You see this mostly (ironically) with conservative influencers and TV personalities like with Tucker Carlson who will use "Us vs Them" rhetoric to paint a black and white world on contentious issues. A lot of leftist influencers are doing a similar thing now, likely due to a market being known for this, and it's likely going to kill progressivism in the future.
People like Hasan and Nickisnotgreen, among others, are only helping conservatives due to how shitty a people they both are, and how shitty (and in poor faith) they portray leftist arguments.
" a lot of people I really respect... like Cody Ko "
I'm here from the Federal Bureau of Fine Wine... I'm sorry to inform you, this has not aged well.
I honesty think "love surge" is just cute aggression. It may be cringey when 2 adults do it, since most people aren't used to seein adults be a little "childish" or loving- since most of them do it in private- but they shouldn't be harassed nor bullied for it imo
Agree👏
I agree. It’s something I’ve never seen before but it clearly benefits both of them/their relationship. It’s also just nice to see people express their emotions in a way that works for them. Seems weird to take the piss out of 2 people in a happy relationship.
@@shcegazenot weird if you’re bitter and need to show everyone you’re better than people for just having fun. Which seems like he’s got some of that going on. 😅
i also thought when i saw that it was cringe but being someone who is autistic i could understand the build up of emotions and how something like that could be beneficial. he had always acted like this great friend of neurodivergent people but it felt like all that was much more fake support/understanding after how he treated them. (not saying the couple wasn’t neurotypical but I think you’ll get what I mean)
Same it got blown waaay out of proportion. It was pretty regular, cutesy couple thats just cringey if you're not in it. I'd rather watch a ton of love surge videos than the dozens of couple pranks and "god my spouse is USELESS and makes me miserable" videos.
I’m wildly confused about the love surge video thing. Why was she apologizing? Because she left a “cringey” video about how much she loves her partner up? Because people were attacking her and sending her vile things? Like it’s her fault? He didn’t like the way she apologized? Even though she didn’t do anything worth apologizing for???
I watched a bit of Nick’s work but never kept up with him. I’m not surprised that he turned out to be such a spineless grifter. He doesn’t deserve his platform.
Well, she didn't apologise, he wanted her to because to him, all the hate she got was HER fault.
ive been very weary of nick since his coverage of Colleen ballinger's apology. he spent a lot more time being excited that he was present for the drama and about how ridiculous the video was than he spent denouncing her actions.
THIS. "I cannot believe this is happening! We're witnessing history!" So strange
@@annawallace3383that history comment multiple times made like so confused he was just happy for the drama sigh
I was so annoyed by this bc I was like just talk about the topic dude 😭
I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO NOTICED HOW FUCKING WEIRD THAT WAS LIKE WHAT
I do think it could have just been the disbelief that he was witnessing such a bizarre apology right after it hit the internet, but it's still weird to celebrate it when there are real victims
Yeah, he lost me over a year or 2 ago for making fun of random teens in a fandom and hiding behind “I’m just criticizing parasocial relationships!”
What fandom ?
is it the marauders fandom?? bc there was smt off abt that too to me
@@aloishba what’s wrong with that fandom? 😭
@@belladonnarose5671 oh no there's nothing wrong with it, im part of it, but thats the only fandom i think nick has ever really mentioned so i just thought it was that.
@@belladonnarose5671 In the nicest way possible, if your response to someone trying to clarify a subject is "what's wrong with X/did X do something wrong?", then you are part of the problem. Think critically and let a situation unfold before coming to the conclusion that something is clearly wrong, when it likely is not.
Even if something WAS wrong, you cannot generalize an entire group of people who are innocent in theory. For example: men who are sexist are bad, but that doesn't mean men are the problem--it's sexism. Rushing to conclusions is why we still cannot focus on the core problem, which is bigotry. Saying "(X people) is the problem" instead of "(Z issue) is the problem" is prejudiced and problematic.
If you want clarification or information, never ask "what's wrong with X?". Ask "Can you elaborate on what you mean?". Otherwise you're bound to get misinformation to fuel an uneducated opinion.
I feel like these kinds of content creators do harm to the movements they supposedly represent, because they give detractors ammunition to discount everything they say, even when their analysis is correct. Furthermore, instead of fostering a culture of actual critical thinking, they train their audiences to rely on broad statements and thought terminating cliches. This, in my opinion, makes their audiences vulnerable to manipulation and coercion, as long as it's presented with a progressive facade.
Nick is far from the only one in his circle to engage in deception and manipulation... Which is a shame, because as a leftist myself, I want to see leftist content creators be more responsible with their platforms.
Completely agree! A creator should always encourage their audience to be critical and think for themselves. Garnering such a toxic mindset only muddies the waters when it comes to extremely serious topics like SA and, ultimately only hurts victims further in my opinion...
Btw, If you are into leftist commentary, maybe you'd enjoy Shaun. I really like his content! :)
@@Mi-be1os I like RUclips Shaun. I pretend that Twitter Shaun doesn't exist. (Shaun makes brilliant long form content, but he's a schmuck on Twitter)
Exactly, he takes advantage of his audience which generally consists of younger leftists and basically implies “if you don’t agree, you’re bigoted”. Of course no leftist wants to share opinions of a bigot so they agree with him.
Agreed wholeheartedly. It's especially prevalent for these types of content creators because their explicit targets are people who already agree with them. They don't *need* to foster a culture of critical thinking - make arguments and learn to be more persuasive - like other types of content creators because they'll get the bag for just saying thing their base will already agree with. And their bases are often, ironically, puritanical and all too willing to ostracize and develop in-groups and out-groups automatically around themselves and others in some perpetual never-ending regress.
Their platform is fundamentally more about the entertainment and the development of their own cults-of-personality that we're just supposed kind of just have to hope doesn't stray into the insane thanks to their progressive aesthetic.
Sometime I wonder if they really are supporting and standing with those movements because they actually care and believe in them or are doing so because it's popular to do so. Because it's easier to find audiences, have people like you and make money from it. No matter what the state of the Internet look now, most people are generally left-leaning. I wonder if they had been creators in early 2010s, would they be making contents punching down on women and minorities? I wonder if things were just a little bit different, would they be right wing grifters? Because most of the time, they come across as someone chasing what is trendy, popular and easiest to go viral and gain a following rather than someone representing progressive movements.
The fact Lex and Ethan distanced themselves from Nick is very telling.
can you tell me im confused..😅
Ethan and Nick are still in a band together tho aren't they?
@@shayterry8014 i mean yeah..
@@shayterry8014nah i think they just did an album together cuz i looked it up and it says the band members are dev and nick. Also it kinda makes sense cuz all of their albums consist nick and dev maybe other artists but theyre in all of them. Ethan just did a collab ig
@@rizz_master96correct, ethan was in 1 album and 1 other song in queeflemania.
"people i respect, like cody ko" rippppp
nick is the epitome of what's wrong with all the "holier than thou" commentary channels. they're so desperate to look like good people that they circle around to being just as bad as the people they're talking about
Imagine victim blaming a woman and calling her a victim blamer for making him feel bad for mocking her.
It’s so many things, projection, narcissism, manipulative…
I still don't know what he thinks the Love Surge girl needs to apologize for...being a little cringey?
I was about to ignore this video, and click the option to not show your content on my recommendations because almost everybody who has criticized Nick is extremely right-leaning, or just a horrible person.
But I'm glad my curiosity took over. I watched Nick's videos pretty regularly before moving on to some other videos, and forgetting he ever existed. His content was just boring to me.
I am glad I clicked. Amazing video. I think making videos about these types of fake people is important. Thank you.
Omg this is so real cause they’re just using slurs and mindlessly hating much like Nick does instead of making a cohesive and honest video
The fact you won't admit to someone being horrible because a channel is "right-leaning" shows you're not an open minded person. I was like you once. Because chances are if you liked people like nick then many of them are horrible people you sub to.
@@romanafuldher7924they were probably saying that most of the videos about nick were just about his political views or that they just dogged on nick bc he’s left-leaning..
@@romanafuldher7924 they specified "right-leaning" because usually the people who go after nick are right-leaning guys who specifically attack Nick for being vocal about his (supposed) progressive, left-leaning stances (e.g. him supporting feminism). From what ive seen, these guys don't make genuine, good-faith criticisms and cohesive arguments against the flaws in Nick's actions and character, instead they attack him for being left-leaning / progressive / "woke". For example, instead of criticising him for being a performative feminist who doesnt actually stand by what he claims to believe, they attack him for being a feminist. This youtuber however doesnt just attack Nick for being left-leaning, he criticises Nick for being performative about it.
@@romanafuldher7924 Its a massive stretch to say that just because someone used to watch and like Nick's videos, and Nick was later revealed to be bad guy, then they must be subscribed to a bunch of horrible people. Nick seems like a normal decent guy at first in most of his videos (except for a few like that love surge video, but he received alot of backlash from his fans for that vid), so if it weren't for the supermega drama his fans would have never known what a shitty person he is, so i dont think ex-fans should be blamed just because they used to like his content. This is a pretty unique situation, I doubt that many of the other youtubers that they are subscribed to are secretly like Nick.
I’ve only seen one of Nick’s videos when was talking about domestic violence and described a situation as a “fault on both sides” situation/relationship. That was a major red flag for me. His misogyny is barely concealed at this point. I feel like people will eventually come forward about their experiences with him because he really gives off abuser red flags nonstop. I fear for his girlfriend.
Okay let’s relax a little bit. I get this video has people all fired up but it’s just a fact that the internet makes it easier to have diminished empathetic responses to people you’ve never met or interacted with face-to-face (I’m talking specifically about Nick being a bellend). I mean, I don’t get the best vibes from him and it’s certainly possible he’s all of that and worse; it’s also possible (imo more likely) that he’s just overly immature for his age and kind of an asshole on his channel because that’s the brand of content he’s fallen into. And it’s his own fault for putting himself in a social environment where people can be accused of the worst behavior in society and everyone just runs with it. I’m just saying let’s not feed into that.
I was thinking that video too, he also psychoanalysed all her little movements and made wild assumptions, which is not very trauma informed to say the least
I wouldn't jump to assuming he's abusive. There's lots of a hole arrogant guys who lack empathy and are too lazy to research properly but that doesn't automatically make them abusive.