Why You Should NOT Be Afraid of Invaders - An Elden Ring Guide
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- Are you tired of invaders in Elden Ring? Would you like to know how to beat the pesky bad red man ruining your co-op session by forcing you to PvP in invasions? Look no further! Ranni the witch may just have what you need...
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For real though, how do YOU deal with invaders currently?
Throw magic until my potato pc die, or the invader die, He will feel like he is playing Touhou.
By befriending them with the power of friendship-
*Dies*
Cry in a corner.
Fight. Die. Respawn. Put taunter tonge again.
By being better then them
Thank you for helping me deal with the scary red men, Ranni the Witch! I promise to not let your teachings go to waste :3
Teaching will be our way out out of it pvp promise it won't missed
Only Waifu please let me out the basement, I’ve been trapped down here since Last year…
take that horrible joke and get out lmao
Mate, appreciate what you have, do you not realize how many people would kill to be in your position.
Down bad...
DAMN FUCKING RIGHT I AM@@ThePootArmy
OW is a dude LMAO people down bad for a 2d image
"As simple as winning a foot race against a discord mod."
Ok, that...that was good. 😂
I have always sucked in *PvP* and thus came up with a nice lil solution.
When someone invades my world I use the chameleon spell, hide like a god damn ninja.
All the while praying the invader doesn't find me.
I then send a message to my would be killer that follows as such:
"To my most esteemed invader."
*"You're gonna have to work for your meal".*
Love and kisses
The Host of this world.
That is truly hilarious. Good one
Even better, get really good at Parcour. I promise that will piss off 99% of invaders. Find hard jumps and climable stuff and practice till you can do it on the fly. Most people even hardcore invaders do not know how to do a 90 degree jump. I.E. sprint forward and turn 90 degrees before you jump when you don't have room to run straight at your jump.
Some good examples are jumping on top of churches. All of them can be climbed. And that place you get the basic twinblade, people think you need a horse to get in there but you can jump from the wall next to the tree lol. And if they get in you hop out the opposite side and make another loop. Hillarious.
@@Scriffer spells?
Lol this is the best idea I've heard yet because I too never wanted to play PVP anyway so if invasions can turn into a little hide'n'seek instead I might actually have some kind of fun out of invasions. :D
Reminds me of the hide and seek invasions you'd get in DS3. No marker telling you where they are, just map knowledge and a general distrust for inanimate objects lol
And then ChaseTheBro appears
Pull the cord appears faster . Lol
@@harveydent1731Against Tos btw. You Dcers will get banned Edit: Also DCing just means I can keep invading you since DCing doesn't give you a cool down I can either Invade you nonstop and force you to play offline not play or get banned by spamming DC. It would be alot better for you if you just fought back at least then you'd get 15 minute cool down
@@FantomMisfit considering how liberal I’ve been with the cord , they give you plenty of chances before that happens. But right now I usually just summon at the boss gate so there is no time for invasions.
@@harveydent1731 Really the best way to do it if you scared of the Red guys that much 😂
"Have high Vigor!"
Me, who pumps up their HP first in every game they play if it's an option: "I see this as an absolute win!"
Me who always runs glass canons and has no experience with fromsoft titles.... I'm in danger.
I learnt quickly.
one thing i always find funny is that low level vigor players usually tend to say "just dodge everything" put then proceed to ALWAYS get hit.
Most of my experiences with invaders is that I get excited to see what the invader has and figure out how to counter it, just for the host with 800 hp to rush in and get killed immediately hah like bro let me go first
They don't want a twink to save him
Like, seriously, if you have homies, pop an emote or something, let the homies handle it. Or not, but the invasion goes longer if the host remains alive. So, if you're hosting, stay alive, let the help soften us up first. Only the cheap will rush you mid emote.
don't forget the invader lagging past you and going straight for the host because the netcode is shit
Yeah I love when two phantoms are ganking me and the host runs in because he sees his summon taking damage.
I usually deliberately kill the phantoms first to shit on the entire party but if the host runs in like a dip shit....
I'll kill 'em.
That said if you have a highly skilled invader often your chances of living are higher if you 3 on 1 them. When a party duels me one after the other I would easily place my win ratio at like 4:1.
@@quizasproximovez8146 Weird flex but okay. I take it you are one of those toxic invaders then. You do realize that the people you invade likely don't practice PvP, so it means so little that you beat them considering how much less experience they have than you do at fighting players. People seem to miss the fact that experience is just as important as the equipment.
Every time i do pvp, i get scared. Idk why. Im not a confrontational person at all, so my heart beats out of my chest, i shake and stuff. Im not a whuss irl but invaders and pvp make me feel awful. Especially toxic/unfair matches.
Oh my God, I'm not alone. I mean, it is just a game, why am I feeling this way whenever PvP occurs!?
@@ClouseFair Not sure..Thats why i avoid pvp and invasions. Except whem im in party chat with people i PvP with , then its actually fun.
You know that is a game, but your mind sees it like a real danger, and of course people don’t like be killed) so it’s ok, play with friends and gank, there is no shame in that, if you are not aggressive person
@@not_ITEMless I dont really gank. Unless the invader runs a toxic build or spams certain weapons/spells. But yeah, fair point.
most of the time the match ins unfair for the invader and not the other way around. I used to get extremely stressed in pvp when I started with souls games, it just took a bit of time to get to know the games to turn someone invading me into a fun time even if I end up losing
Hate is a strong word, I nothing invaders. Forced PVP is an aspect of the game I keep locked out and just not engage in it. Invaders can try and invade, however I won't stop my gameplay because of some numbskull wanted to get into my session. I monitor for every new connection to the network, after a while it became easy to seperate their connection, so I just cut it. They either can't connect or if they manage they will get lagged out so bad they won't even be able to move. Reap what you sow when you want to ruin someone else's gameplay, hope it's worth the wait for a matchmake.
That’s cool man, you block every guy, who wants to play with you, real good stuff! I see you like playing with people 😅🤣
I love invading, and sometimes I run into people who are pretty friendly and don't want a fight. I usually just go back to my world and let them keep on playing. Also, respect to the chads who let invaders do 1v1s with their summons.
i have run into friendlies as well, i normally start attacking a few paces out of range to signal that i wanna fight and i gotta say 90% of the time they give me the best fights
I commented this on another video & some loser called me soft & said people who use co op make him angry & he invades because he doesn’t want them to progress lmao
@@thatoneguy2886 Yeah, when you run into people actually equipped and somewhat trained for PVP you get some real tough fights! So many people don't understand that 95% of invaders become trivial if you just take an hour or two to get a good PVP weapon and maybe practice a bit or watch a guide.
@@Bob-jh6xt or attack as a group of 3, no matter how good I seem to get in 1v1 and 2v1 as soon as a third shows up I need luck or a mistake out of them
Commenting for the RUclips algorithm.
Also I cannot wait for the PvP tips video, your channel has inspired me to begin trying it out again!
This video sort of makes the case against invaders. There is zero chance that a new player or even an experienced PVE player will figure this out on their own - except the vigor part (one would think).
i would disagree for the simple fact that it is reasonable to except your players to notice that a given tactic is not working and then try something else
As an invader blues are usually a blessing as they are most of the time just free flasks
I'm watching this to get ideas of how to fight better when I do invade.
Is it bad that when I play with a friend we always have the tongue on
@@michaelhosenfeld89Your one of the good ones. As an invader, I thank you for
@@RWNetworkEX thanks?
@@michaelhosenfeld89By using tongue you get invaded more easily and a second Invader can be summoned to help Edit: It's essentially a Neon sign saying "please invade me"
Any other PvE player just uses the tounge to make their a millionth playthrough more fun?
As a bad invader, please stop telling them the secrets of winning these, I’m dying painfully.
Dude honestly, this is rediculous.
As a bad ganker, I am terrible in pvp even with co-op summons.
@@stiven355Realistically, only a very small percentage of people really want to engage with that mechanic. Imo its the one thing that holds these games back from being truly mainstream. Give people some coop options without invaders and you will have a small subset of players that will get their invader/invaded experience .
@@stiven355 you honestly just get locked into "just another one" mindset and you get some that are better than others, but some that are just awful
Good
Just install elden ring seamless co-op mod. Its by far the best souls multiplayer experience possible.
1. No invaders.
2. You dont have to fight bosses again you share the victory.
3. You all get torrent, so no slogging for 40 minutes to get through a level.... 3 times.
Its worth the instalation if you wanna play with your friends. No cancer red boys running through the level hiding and waiting to stab you while your dealing with adds.
Do note that they add invasions in the dlc patch. Though it can be turned off in the settings of the mod.
1) yes invaders
2) buggy as fuck
3)constant crashes
4)constant updates that fix nothing
@@KingLich451occasional restarts and some bugs, still a great mod. One of the best co op experiences I've had in a game.
Nice to see waifu taking the other side and helping them too. Cheers and let's hope for 100k subs this year!
the pvp community is what kept the older games alive as long as they've been, it will keep Elden Ring going too. Hell, my 2 characters i've beaten the game with, i use the tongue just to get some invaders for some of that old souls pvp
@@toryunaminosaki1022 is that supposed to be a good thing?
@@toryunaminosaki1022 How come? Most people don't give a rat's ass about PvP. Just about the only part of the community's contribution I can recall was them largely stirring up the pot about Demon Souls servers, and even then, it affected single-player experience as well so various content creators and contributors to wikis, etc, were on it as well.
It's a minority of a minority who, unlike, say, fighting game players, don't even really have the opportunity to host events or contribute to a larger economy of competitive play.
I fight honorably nowadays though I use to sprint to the boss doors when I was a noob.
Well, everyone git gud, if they must
Whenever I invade, I always let the enemy strike first. If they don't, I wait a little bit, and if they clearly don't want to fight, I leave the world to find someone who does want to fight. Also, if they are engaged in pve, I sit nearby and wait until they've finished.
Thank you. Some people just aren't interested and so many invaders are just sanctioned greifers at this point 😢
W, Thank you
@@keitheone991I would be more merciful if you and your boys weren't trying to backstab me the minute I spawn in 😂
@@FantomMisfit I know that there are people who do this. Shame on their whole family.
I myself used to jump off cliff ledges or sit next to a sight of grace until you kill me. If you don't get the message when I sit down emote by a site of grace then I just go kill myself.
I have gotten to a point now though where I don't fight people. I just avoid them. Literally had a guy cut his finger because I spent almost 20 minutes just dodging him. He didn't hit me once. At this point I'm just trolling invaders 😂
Be like me.
> Overlevel your character and invasions become less frequent
***Chad face***
i once got invaded by a moonveil user, he dealt like a half damage a hit (i had around 50 vigor) once he ran out of fp, i ran up to him and flaming striked him with my +8 claymore, and he died, he only had 17 vigor, this was level 50!
Before I was afraid of twink builds, now I know that those who use it can't be guaranteed and it's bad because they can't play like everyone else xD 0 spacing, 0 all
I recently started doing a fight club kinda thing
I summon random furled fingers and lure invaders. My name says 1v1 per Invader and everyone gets it.
The invaders get a pvp fight and normal players dont get invaded. A win win. And winners get a prize. All without chat
ah the old school fight clubs of Dark Souls. shame I didnt get into the genre back then, I missed out on a lot of potentially good experiences.
it's odd how few fight clubs i see, maybe because of the arena kind of making them unnecessary to get reliable 1v1 duels
I love invading, and I love even more when hosts feel like giving me some good 1v1s. My man, thank you for making the Lands Between a better place for everyone.
just learn how to deal with actual players and improve your skills. your skill will come with time, as does all things
Best part of Waifu videos is when Wandering Flame hits you like a nostalgia dump truck at the end of the video.
I just cannot understand those people that crticize PvP because they never take the time to level vigor. My brother in the Elden Beast, without it you'll have a bad time even trying to complete the game.
"Why is this mob 1 shotting me?!!!" 😂
Can't go wrong with a banished knight halberd, although the stigma attached to dual cross-naginatas remains such that people have an odds on chance of just leaving when they see them. They react like you're trying to stab them with pure leprosy.
I love seeing dual nagis. Usually means a really easy parry
@@IliumGaming And that's the other reason keeping them around is great. Most people who use them tend to suck, and for this reason the ones unafraid of the cross-naginata will usually assume you're bad if you use them. They'll roll up expecting easy parries and fall prey to ye olde hot swapping.
@tek512 It's crazy how much competitive gamers can correctly predict other players' moves for the most asinine reason. Y'all need to either touch grass (respectfully speaking, not trying to be rude) or get a psychology degree 😂
@revolverjesus98 I mean, you right though.
Its not that they are scary, its more of a hindrance and annoyance for me.
I can deal with the PVP but alot of the time I just want to progress. maybe I'm just unlucky and get invaded when I want to play with friends but it is what it is.
I will admit, im not good at the PVP in ANY souls game, so I personally want to just have a good time with friends and enjoy the expansive world that is Elden ring.
Yes I know that I am "cutting off" like 15-20% of the game by not wanting PVP or participating in it, I just don't wanna keep getting slapped around at lvl 5-25 by some sweat lord carbohydrate jockey that has nothing better to do then bully low level players with little to no experience.
I LOVE Elden Ring for its story, environment and callus skill ceiling in PVE.
I've never played a SOULS game all the way through but this may be the one, as I've always been an Armored Core fan before SOULS games.
You deserve a thumbs up from me OnlyWaifu
Generally I play solo but sometime I offer up my services for people looking for help. I find invaders a really fun aspect of the game. They offer a challenge sometimes. After over 2800 hours in The Lands Between, the base hasn’t much challenge left. I love the invasion feature. I’ve even been trying my hand at it lately.
Yeah, maybe there’s an issue there. Lol
It’s honestly the only game I’ve played since launch. Honestly the best game I’ve played in over 30 years.
I've been running through with 2 mates to prepare for the dlc. We are invaded every single time we summon each other, seriously. We only died to 1 invader who was some loser with the spinning lightning axe, who was losinhlg badly until that point.
I don't care if ganking is "cowardly" or whatever, i simply don't respect invaders.
Seamless Elden Ring co-op. The perfect way to play with friends on PC. Sadly, elden ring is almost uncomfortably large to play co-op otherwise imo.
Cheating
@@FantomMisfitthats your problem
Well, I appreciate all the actual useful tips for dealing with invaders, but I still would rather just use the co-op mod and avoid them entirely. Thanks anyway though AI Ranni.
On a serious note though, 10:28 I'm putting my money on the giant ringed finger flicker
"The way to kill powerstanced spear invaders is to powerstance spears" is the TLDR here
I rarely if ever ran into powerstanced Spears. Stop over exaggerating LMAO
I just disconnect whenever one of those idiots pop up. Git lost. You may feel entitled to interfere with my progression, but you certainly aren't entitled to my time or my attention. Bother someone else, I have better things to do.
The complaints I'm reading right now are for casual co-op players in the early game (under level 40) and no idea how to play running into twinked red builds.
Saw it myself at level 35 a couple times, but the vast majority of reds were normal the problem is more the frequency. At that level I wound up at stormveil as a co-op summon and had a nonstop run of 7 reds in a row.
This is secretly a guide for "How to become a Twink".
Yes, that’s funny to speak about low level gear at the beginning of a game, having madness seal at level 35😅, no trading was noticed, but even ones! Only honest playthrough. Damn I love that Argentinian guy, but he such a tryhard, but toxic not in a game, but in videos, where he can fuсk around.
It's not a matter of being "afraid", it's a matter of annoyance and waste of time.
Then why play a souls game at all if dying is "an annoying waste of time"
@@lususnaturae881 Classic invader argument. Dying isn't the problem, being interrupted every 5minutes by some toxic little shit when you just want to play with a friend is.
Like it or not, but there's a reason Seamless Coop is a popular mod for this game.
@@drekgrimm329115 minute timer after every invasion unless you're one of these dorks that Dcs every time. (Which is against TOS btw)
Let's hope people ACTUALLY listen to this, because this is good information!
Why get good when can mald over have so many advantages and outs at your disposal as host and still get mildly inconvenienced by a meanlessing defeat.
If I didn't feel like dealing with them I either went offline, or just found the nearest way to die to avoid them and then be immune to the invading. Perhaps sometimes I did feel like it but typically I have specific PvP days and if it's not that I'd rather not bother with them at all XD. Elden Ring helped me with that cuz of no solo invasions, I'd really rather not deal with someone invading me with the power level of builds in this game...
You hosts are kind of the reason Invaders had to start using broken builds to begin with. If we don't you guys will 3 man gank and try to blender us the minute we spawn in. We're already at a disadvantage due to you guys having more flasks
I've been invading for the past couple of days now its always 1v2 or 1v3 how are people having trouble with scary red man?
I dunno how you play, but the ones I dealt with just seemed straight up overpowered, hardly did damage to 'em, they wielded one-hit kill spells and really strong weapons... was plagued with those guys trying to play with a friend at the beginning of the game.
Invaders have the inherent advantage of being able to tune their build specifically for invasions. No matter how many advantages the host has, the invader will always be able to keep buffing up.
Also, invaders tend to learn to navigate their inventory during combat. A lot of PvE players don't really do that.
Usually invaders have the advantage of being good at the game. Exceptions apply.
My first (and last) invader experience in Elden Ring was watching this dude with 2 giant hammers get stuck in the jump attack animation, and then slide across the land like he was riding two giant roombas or some shit. He started chasing after my friend while I watched and laughed, that is until he lifted off the ground while still stuck in the animation and somehow killed me instantly 💀
People who started in Ds1 have been so lenient nowadays. WHAT HAPPENED TO GIT GUD. IT'S HOW I GOT BETTER. JUST GIT GUD. It's good advice, even if it doesn't sound that way at first. Is it really so hard to see what you did wrong when you suck? "Why did I die? Was it because the game is unfair and the invader is way more powerful than me? No, its cus I was mashing the attack button like a coked out FGC player."
Edit:Hehe, yay Ranni basically said git gud.
This tarnished is traumatized… a cheater ruined my first experience with invaders in DS3, and I’ve never played online since 😔
😔
"My plump coinsurers of calories" Lmao Anime Rani just gets to roast her audience and still watch the sub count still go up 😂
Jokes aside havent watched you in a while, great channel growth and vids!
I have had some fun invasions, some annoying and some down right confusing... Think my favorite was in Dark Souls 3 in the Ariandel woods where I used the lay down gesture in a bush and just waited for the invader to find me. They came so close a couple of times that they literally stood by my feet and then moved away. Either they did not use the lock on, thought i was a dead Follower enemy as I wore that armor or they were humoring me :-) They ended up leaving after while on their own.
Also I think the mystery weapon is the Ringed Finger.
Thank you very much, I like your content and the information you give.
My way of dealing with PvP is pretty much playing the entire game solo. Might summon for a boss fight here or there...but I'm always right at the boss fog gate when I do it. I haven't had a non-NPC invader in my game in over a year.
I'm sorry but can we not encourage players to constantly use the running spear attacks? Or whatever makes PVP easy? Half thr fun of PVP, at least for me, is not knowing what you're going to face and adapting to the situation. What makes PVP unbearable, and quite frankly boring, is seeing every MFing co op summon with ROB or spears. It's not all the time but my God man games need to be about having fun not winning. I've had some great duels and invasions where it was a really close battle but I ultimately lost and I wasn't even mad. They were great fights and I had fun! So please do all players a favor and put down the meta builds, do some exploring, find something different and I'm sure you'll have a great time.
The reason people use meta is because offmeta is boring and cant rollcatch
@@Superluminal_30000 the reason people use meta is because they suck otherwise
@@wapjs6781 sure.Thats why all the ladder players and comp players pretty much only use meta.The only meta setup that is braindead is double Spears.Everything else is great
Invaders are at such a massive disadvantage. You should never be losing a 2/3 vs 1 fight.
Tbf 24% of the players cant even beat Margit (According to Steam achievements) so expecting a little much from them 😂
I like to run around the dungeons triggering traps as we fight, keeps it interesting. Frankly, I miss the invader dungeons from DS2.
Or the bosses that summon invaders as their mechanic. (Mirror Knight in DS2)
Man, the moment I get my new PC to run Elden Ring, I will be so prepared that I might actually use the taunters tongue just to screw with invaders lol
Thanks Waifu, thou teachings shall not be wasted!
To me on PC it feels like early/mid game invasions are quite rare. At around 150-200 should happen more often though.
@@ETBrooD Interesting so 150-200 is considered meta for PVP? I remember someone debating on settling for 125 as the meta level to keep builds somewhat unique.
@@Efical150 is meta, that said, there's brackets below. Past that point, you're invading with some rather mean advantage, cause the matchmaking breaks past a certain point.
@@elijahford3696Matchmaking barely works anyway.
Even at that level PC is dead, no one plays the damn game, especially invaders...@@ETBrooD
I was never invaded on my first run because I played 100% solo (to avoid spoilers of the area).
But man, I do hate on my second run now, before the DLC, that everytime I try to help another player, a fucking guy with endgame gear and infinite consumables just pop up and kill everyone (everyone on level 10 builds). It is disgusting
Ranni calling me sweet pet names makes me feel happy.
I go find them! I dont PvP in Elden Ring, but ive played enough pvp that i dont let it bother me. Usually, its a nice respite from whatever else Im doing. Sometimes its really funny and friendly and its kinda like 'oh hey! Another player! All right, lets do this!'
And at worst, its all hell breaks loose BUUUT its still fun!
The bad red man is just another gamer looking for awesome experiences.
The mystery weapon is the Ringed finger
Poop humor, dad jokes, and some kind of uk accent. The perfect combo.
8:48 should also mention warming stones. You can get to Altus fairly early to pick up the cookbook
I mean... This video is good and all but it doesn't help, just makes things worse. The toxicicy of the community is already high enough. If people just NEED ARBITRARY STEPS to build their first character (Some of those also need to venture into de hardest part of the early game in Caelid) kind of kill the fun stuff of starting a character in a new game.
At this point, offline and just summon at the fog gate is the best way of play. Also, no, i just play with taunters active all the time, and fight every single invader that came into my world. Some are nice, some are a complete cesspool of degenerecy.
I wonder how to overcome the extreme passive turtle playstyle; I really would love to see a video on this since I meet more and more bonfire duelists who play exactly like that; they never engage and wait and wait with their already huge advantage as a host.
My quick answer is using a oppressive weapon with a statue effect (Ex: Vyke's spears, PS Spear(Cold or bleed), Albinauric Halberd if ur are Arcane build and put sleep on it or small rapier for fast revovery with BHS or Quick step) Apply the more pressure you can on them (Of course dont swing ur weapon in the void to avoid punish of course) and be patient, make them stress, make them fear of a rollcatch. Look at them and delay your attack. Punish everymove you can. When you got a solid hit or the status is about to proke, i almost garanted you the host you fight will roll of stress. Roll catch them then wait for another roll catch or a ripost than punish it. of course its more easy to say to do. This kind a fight will be always the guys will be more patient and calm and take the best opportunity will win. Of cousre if the host is always constantly runnign away its a different story.
Ranged. Make it expensive not to attack you (rain of arrows, honed bolt, rot)
Rune arced, flask chugging bonfire duelists sitting in luirinia with lightening weapons get a poop pot, a point down, a sever and block from me.
@@Adam-tu1qx that is what i face increasingly and it is annoying as hell. I always drink estus since this is an invasion, i do neither respect or play "fair" against bonfire duelist, I just can not handle the turtle gameplay, where they just wait for me to do anything
@@GodfreyEnjoyer1 impaling thrust/piercing fang, rot/blood grease, and the lance or heavy thrusting sword of choice. force them to have to deal with you with things they can't turtle
I think pvp makes me wish we had a favorites tab just so if I get invaded I can swap off quickly.
Important thing to note: Invaders will try to pressure you into retreating, because roll-catching is much simpler than out-trading. That being said, I've also managed to scare Invaders by knocking them into the air with Stamp: Upward Cut when they thought they had me on the run.
"While some invaders are very skilled" *proceeds to show footage of someone doing nothing but spam power-stance spear poke-attacks*
Pretty awesome vid', though. I actually never realized Vagabond started with a halberd.
Great video this guide was helpful and I’ll use some of the information given. Love the FF themes in the background too
Man I love elden ring but pvp can so annoying
I just got into PVP and its honestly not as bad as I thought.
very fun if anyone has yet to do so try it out with the mindset of just fuck around
The mystery weapon is the ringed finger! Still don't know what actually is that.
Don't really summon co-op so no experience with invasions after DS3, but I do recall hearing about one "Ooh, jerk move," incident of someone co-oping for help against the Draconic Tree Sentinel guarding Leyndell, only to find an invader camping right next to the Sentinel.
Git gud
Git gud
I was going to say stop saying git gud because it's scaring away new players, but honestly the game hasn't been gatekept enough with the influx of cowards this game has.
@@RahnonymousElden ring is not Sekiro, it's about options of play, with cautious play being fully valid. Admittedly there is a bit of overcompensation for past bad behavior by invaders, well a lot of those invaders were massive jerks.
And while the whole get gud bit is fundamentally eye roll worthy, I can look past that because good can encompass so many playstyles.
@BrendanKOD I don't consider "running a 10k marathon away from red man and letting your overleveled phantom babysit" a valid option of play. If you want to do coop, deal with the consequences of invasions, if you don't want that, play offline. They're one of the kinds of individuals that made the pvp in Elden Ring turbo cancer
another bit of advice i have for the little poggies, if they wanna do a little homework, find a youtube who plays Eldin Ring pvp, Lost or Chase the Bro are fantastic examples, and watch some of their videos to get the idea
i used to suck at ds3 pvp, but i watched a lot of their videos, and learned what dumb mistakes i was making, and got a lot better
but ultimately, you're gonna have to play the game to actually get decent at it. yeh, you'll get killed sometimes, sometimes you'll kill them, but rather than getting salty about it, use the experience to figure out what mistakes you're making, and play better
The mystery weapon is the ringed finger! Such a unique weapon couldn’t be forgotten
I can’t PVP due to connection, not that I would either. PVP stresses me out too much and that’s among every game honestly. Simply not for me, I enjoy watching it though.
between player invasions being opt-in, and spirit ashes already being decent enough support/distraction for bosses, it's just so easy to never ever interact with other players
hell, i didn't realise you had to opt into the system until well after i finished the whole game
feels like a rather poor design decision imo, since having others screw around in your world (and vice versa) was always such fun in fromsoft's previous games
I personally like it. I've never been a multiplayer kinda person in general, so I've always been fine with playing these games single player.
Idk giant crusher will forever be one of my favorites weapons I've won a game with 😂 but yeah, it's not really a great pvp weapon. Fucking hilarious time in pve tho.
People get so annoyed by us but chase the bro is who inspired me to do invasions back in ds3. The challenge of trying to survive a gank and trying to kill as many players as you can is awesome
Yeah, at least he one of the most tryhard ass player, who NEVER shows his loses. That’s is why his victories cost nothing, cuz deep inside he is real life looser, who afraid to lose in game, where he is about 2/3 of his life time 😅🤓
Backstab? Backstabbb!
@@RendezvousWithRama Booooooty! :D ..
9:37 *Nah, I'd disconnect.*
(I've never even played Elden Ring)
Im pretty sure the mystery weapon is the Ringed Finger.
I’m stumped by today’s mystery weapon, it is going to take me a while to finger in out…
there is something magical about being invaded or invading someone's world, for me it's the pinnacle of human interaction
And always remember kids, pure int builds are not viable in any kind of PVP.
honestly, if im ever with friends and we get invaded, we like haveing a fight club. If we have multiple invaders it becomes even better, as we can basically have a team on team fun match. Like half of the invaders refuse to participate and just get ganked, but when they join in the "arena", the theme builds all faceing off one at a time is just fun.
Judging by the fact you used the term “ganked” you’ve definetly played the cesspit of a game that is For Honor am I correct?
@@Gmystro actually I havent, and I just looked it up. It honestly looks really cool. I just remembered ganking from my leauge phase (wasn't a long one tho) and still use it in unite and souls game pvp. Plus OnlyWaifu has also used it in at least a few vids.
With how ER vertical is, I miss old "Force", veterans will understand 😂
Yeah as a frequent invader, a lot of this true. Vigor is my go-to stat, I don’t even touch my damage stat beyond the bare minimum needed to use my chosen weapon until it’s at least +16. Having 40-50 vigor before lvl 60 is the norm for me, and I only go below that ever in very niche specific builds in mind
The weapons listed are true, thrusting weapons are great for chasing, but one thing waifu didn’t mention is that pierce damage actually ignores a good amount of physical defence on a trade, meaning you can very easily kill people through “jousting” them.
Lastly, and this wasn’t mentioned in this video, but spells for the most part SUCK. Unless you have the surprise, you’re very unlikely to hit me. You can roll through most sorceries and incantations if you know the timing. I may be an old veteran who’s been invading in Fromsoft titles for years now, but it’s not that hard to learn. If you’re a spellcaster, your goal is to make me roll, make my actions predictable and coordinate with your buddies for pinning me down and timing when to hit me together in those recovery frames of my dodges, not to necessarily hit me and kill me with your 70 int at lvl 80. You will be my first target, keep that in mind. My goal is to make your buddies think I’m fighting them while keeping my attention on you. Do not give me the opportunity to get near you
Lastly, yeah I basically spend the first 2 hours of the game for each new character basically just collecting every golden seed and sacred tear between Caelid and Leyndell. I don’t twink often, but when I do, I want my flask count to be comparable to you who has yet to leave limgrave, removing any advantage of being able to heal more than I can and win by attrition, which I can’t do after a certain point of progress because I will always have half the flasks rounded down compared to you. Keep that in mind for higher level invasions, you can just keep a cool head and through enough skirmishes I will be forced to be more daring and reckless in my attempts to kill you while you the host still probably have much more opportunity to heal and keep a good space if you’re keeping up with my damage.
However do not be fooled by my fleeing at low health. I know what you’re thinking, and I’ll use your confidence and attempt to prevent me from healing to lure you into just another trap. Never once think an invader will do what you think you’ll know you’ll do. The biggest killer for hosts and cooperators is thinking their victory is assured. My biggest advantage over you is your assumptions and confidence. If I’m acting exactly how you think I would, I might not be. Never stop doubting. It’s like chess in a way, the player thinking the most steps ahead and not in the moment is probably gonna win
Ahh yes PVP casters. One of two experiences you will have. 1. an annoyance who forgets to level his hp up at all because hes an idiot and only knows how to tap R1 as fast as possible while his melee buddies actually hit you. or 2. The guy who knows how to chain combo 30 spells in a row to disintigrate you.
@@t.b.cont. An example of someone who is a pro at invading and has been doing this for the last 10 years or so. The only way to fight them is to become pro at PVP yourself which is a time consuming journey littered with failure and frustration (I would assume). Those who would rather spend their limited play time on exploring and PVE have no chance or interest in catching up so they will never stand a chance against such an invader - hence the hate.
How to beat Invaders My Guide:
step 1: Offline mode
Well, I play solo and so I don't often get the fun of destroying invaders. But when I'm offering my help, I like to keep the invader busy for the host. The system is quite fun in Elden Ring. I remember the old Dark Souls times, where invasion happens everytime you didn't look like a rotting cheese. Boi these invasions were frustrating, but in Elden Ring they are fun :D
the mystery weapon is ringed finger i should go out and touch grass now
As horrifying as the scary red men are I still don't understand why so many people need help, They are nothing compared to the power of duel bleed nagakibas.
I still laugh my ass off every time I think about the invader I killed while helping out my buddy. Friend was streaming so I have the footage and everything.
Just hit the invader four times with R2 my Lazuli Straight Sword. Didn't move didn't dodge just stood there and did the little block heavy each time the weeb started his attacks. Funniest fucking invasion ever.
well, he learned about its unique R2, huh...you were helping him
You have to play smart and as a team, invader typically has 2 advantages. Experience and the pve around them. Play patient and stick to the mission of getting to the boss door. Every second that the invader is not actively fighting, you should be moving towards the boss. Use knives to lure the pve 1 by 1 as to not overwhelm yourself. If the invader runs away, then do not chase unless you’re certain that you can kill, they’re leading you to a trap
Got invaded at the 2nd grace trying to play with a friend. Got constantly invaded and killed before I could get any kind of progress. Is it really that fun to ruin other players gaming experience, or to pick on someone who started playing 10 min ago??
People are willing to bully children in real life so it’s only natural assholes exist even more so in video games.
Thanks, your videos made me really consider playing some pvp, next to sending my coop sign to every summoning pool in existance ^^
I split my time invading and sun broing. Sometimes i wish voice chat was a thing so i could tell the host don't rush after the invader, their just trying to bait you into a bad situation. When they chase they usually die.
Continue through the level and wait for them to come to you, then attack in force at once. All parties involved will have a better fight this way, and the host team will likely win.
As an invader i dont care to win, i just want a fun chaotic fight, win or lose.
Personally, I’ve never been invaded just invaded others
started with elden ring last week as my first souls game.
this whole thing is so addictive.
the fact u just run into a unknown world this feeling makes this so speacial daaamn
"very skilled"
Uses only JeeNine clip that doesn't involve him running away for half an hour while his talisman regens.
I’m lvl 552 and when I get invaded I literally get one shotted 😅
Considering I haven't played vanilla in over a year. I don't.
We invaders are not evil you can run (not all of us )
If the netcode were good I'd maybe care about pvp
I am not afraid of invaders, I am pissed off, cause if I am open to them is 95% of the time cause I am playing with my homies and I probably don't want a random to join our fun uninvited. Imagine you are going out on the weekend and some guy randomly joins your friend group and starts crackng jokes that hit and miss out of nowhere. That's literally how it feels.
how game works
you have advantedge
kill him
get the rune arcs
yipee
@@XxN00BxXgg3 I don't want to have advantage, I don't want to have to fight a guy I didn't ask for, I don't care about rune arcs at all
then elden ring isnt for you lmao
@@daleodorito
@@XxN00BxXgg3 PvP isn't for me, stop trying to push them on others unwillingly; you can separate them without damaging the game, you know?
@@daleodorito
play the game
it wouldnt be an "invader" if they didnt invade you
you have a cooperator cause why would you use a taunters tongue, just accept that the game has this put in place.
it has been like this in the soulsborne games for a LONG time and honestly you could make more of an argument on the dark souls games lmao