1000KM on a Suspension Unicycle | Kingsong KS-S18 | Final Review!
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
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*Few glitches in this production (in the video), massive issues getting this video online, after 2 days battling along with the help of software expert from Apple, this is going to have to do sadly, its always a shame to upload something I am not overly happy with...but its going to have to do!
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Thanks Ian. Great review, this was the wheel I ordered. I ended up changing to Sherman, as long distance is my thing to, 100 km days are not uncommon. Nice hardware, Kingsong has listened. Kingsong is more dedicated to safety as a ride for sure. This will be brilliant for those commuting short distances to work. Part of my still wants one as a "toy". Great reviews as always. I think it is safe to say a lot of RUclipsrs, should take note of this, doing legit reviews and rides without scaring half of New York winding through all traffic, great job brother! Keep it up.
Congrats on your purchase. Yeah they seemed to have listened. Thanks for watching!
production model is already a 2.0 - one could say Kingsong is also evolving their version release approach as well
Good they listened and acted on feedback for sure.
I´ve said this in many other places but... finally a wheel that doesn´t look lika a Roomba!
ha ha
Great review and thank you...now I cant wait even more for my s18
Good choice! Congrats
Thanks for your all your efforts Ian 👍
My pleasure!
Nice review thx Ian.This wheel is easily the best looking at the moment but i think let down a bit by its battery capacity.Your review has helped me decide this is not the wheel for me .Sherman,Msuperpro or Monster pro ,Gotway ex are on the shopping list.
No problem, glad its helping make an informed decision!
Ur doing good
I really like ur professional review
Love from India cheers
Thanks a ton!
THIS definitely is my wheel!!!!
Nice!
No " what so ever" till the end ..I thought it will not hear it Great review..thank you.
I have to be incredibly careful with my speech now a days, people have nothing better to do.
Usually I get criticized for incorrectly saying 'specifically' due to having some issues with certain words.
Also get criticized for saying a word *right* (or a sequence of words right), because the right words are said to often.
Also I get criticised if I put km in KM in the title because this is not correct either. It always amazes me peeps have the time to even stop and write a comment on something such as this.....I mean its an EUC channel not a English lesson channel.
@@Speedyfeetuk do not have to warry People that write comments because they care about you ..this is not a criticism...my comment is allmost on every review you put on youtube...it's like a small joke..
@@omidel. not aimed at you directly, just showing how silly people get (who are not believe it or not actually joking but are serious!)
I saw their was a extension pack in ewheels.
Kingsong one is no longer being produced if thats the one you mean?
Thanks Ian from 🇨🇦
Very welcome
Thanks Ian. My eyes remain on the V11 at this point, subject to how GW responds! 👍🙂
Yeah will be interesting to see how GW's wheel does under the 1000km testing!
Lovely final review, but how long before you get your mits on the v11? Waiting for the seal of approval or not.
Apparently around 10 working days, not sure why so long but hey ho!
Great review 👍.,Hope it will available in India.
I hope so too
Thanks for the great review Ian, will you be testing the revised version as well.
I'm so tempted to upgrade from my Ninebot S2.
That would be nice indeed.
Don't think he will be testing the final production version.
Glad you liked it. Wont be doing the latest version no (to costly and time consuming to do reviews this indepth, but with the adjustments it can only be better!)
Im changing from my ninebot s2 to the veteran sherman👌😍
Merci for the answer , with the wheel on if you plug the charger does the wheel turn off ? If not then an external battery pack would adress the limited battery capacity of the wheel
Not tried, but pretty sure at standstill yeah it will, like the others.
On my INMOTION V10F when I plug the charger the wheel turn off , that why I need to know if the S18 turn off when the charger is connected
Have you noticed any reduction in range after 1000km of use and charging?
No still the same range etc so no loss there at this point!
Many thanks Ian. I dont understand why in such an exciting time for EUC riders, rather than being grateful that someone out there is willing to literally do the miles to provide a series of insightful reviews they would focus on something as petty as letter casing in the title. (Sorry rant over).
Q: did you play around with the suspension setting at all? I recall you initially went with a setting Kuji recommended but noticed in this video that the sag appears to be lower, and possibly why your blue rubber ring is right at the end of the travel? Ta.
Lol, agree, crazy people everywhere :)
Left the suspension with original setup, I quite like the softer feel especially as I ride a lot of forest trails, it aided with the sudden bumps massively.
Looking to get my First EUC to mostly offroad year round, been debating this, the V12 HT and begode RS, what would you recommend in this situation?
My heart wants s18 but my brain says get v11. Help me god.
Get both? :)
Ha ha, yeah, just get both ;)
Why does your brain say v11? I am sold on this wheel but didn't really look into v11 just yet so id be nice to hear why it tops s18 for you
@@mehmetkaran998 may be brand, may be the way the suspension is delivered. V11 is more like a moving part attached to a conventional EUC whereas the S18 is more integrated. What that means though I think is that there are some wires moving with the suspension on the S18 but not the v11. That said Speedyfeet completed 1000km without issues on the S18.
S18 has way better suspension. That is why I want it.
*this is still the best looking wheel. God look at that beauty...S22 looks ugly but this is amazing.*
Thinking really hard about upgrading my KS 16s (2000+ miles) to the KS-S18. Love your reviews! As an aside, which you may have answered elsewhere and if so I apologize, do you use a Skydio for the drone camera work in your vidoes?
We have supported Skydio since the start, had 2 R1's and now have 2 Skydio 2's 😀
did you test if we could add an external battery ?
Sorry not something we have in stock to test.
@@Speedyfeetuk How can we know if an external battery is possible or rather feasible to use? Because if it's feasible it solves my only problem for the wheel and makes it perfect for me. Btw thanks for the videos I am new to your channel and loving it so far. And will get my first wheel soon.
As this is your "final review" but you're reviewing a pre-production when we're on batch 3+.... wish there were more reviews of the wheel they are delivering these days!
Sadly couldn’t afford the money nor time to keep buying every revision and do a 1000km review for each one 😊
Hey Ian thanks for grate channel. Extra battery pac. Is there something about that?
They have done one for around a year (if its what I think you are talking about), not something we have ever stocked.
Just asked Kingsong, they no longer do it.
How long are the cranks?
Be interesting to see you do a facility tour. Why on earth do you have such a huge location? The heating costs seem prohibitive even if the rent is a deal....maybe there is something I am missing. Government subsidy?
Huge? 6000 sq/ft is not that huge.
That charge port cover doesn’t look like it would stop water ingress? It flaps up and down when you come off of a bump?
Yeah, mentioned in one of the previous videos, supposed to be fixed in the final release. (But I think the port is IP rated anyhow, not 100% sure on that as would need to ask the producer of said port for a data sheet).
At minute 4:00 did you mentioned you recommend KS-S18 ONLY for people that commute less than 20 Miles a day ?
Did I understand it wrong ?
Yes and no, it depends if you can charge at work / where-ever you are going. Also depends on how fast you are going. If going 25mph, it will do 20-25 miles per charge as per the videos. (be sure to checkout all 4!)
PS: Also checkout www.ElectricPeople.org and join the community!
Thanks Ian. I think that ks s18 is too large to be taken into smaller offices and buses what do you think?
Buses should be fine, its not massive in size, its quite tall though. It will not fit in a locker or anything like that, but it will fit under my desk in the office for example. Not sure if that helps?
Pop on over to www.ElectricPeople.org as well and join the community we setup!
Hi, could I ask you to compare the range of the S18 to the range of say an inmotion V8?
(thought that might be better than just giving a figure that would depend on terrain and rider weight etc)
It will be similar to the V8F, although not a fair comparison as the KS-S18 of course goes faster, so when both are at top speeds the range is pretty much similar - only the KS-S18 will accomplish that at a higher avg speed.
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Roughly double the range. v8 gets about 14-17miles tops, whereas my tesla (similar spec to s18) I can get like 26-35ish :) this is riding both together with a friend. His ran out of battery where tesla still has 60% left.
When you say this wheel is good for 20 miles, do you mean a out and return journey of 40 miles from 1 charge or 20 miles total between charges for your bodyweight and riding style?
See video 1 for range test - video starts at the exact time here with this link I got for you: ruclips.net/video/b-zvrMqhtqY/видео.html (26 miles with 10% remaining).
Is there any information about the rumored external 780wh battery pack?
No external pack as far as I am aware, and asking KS they said there is no external pack either.
I hope you put the V11 on the wall too, it is technically the first "announced" EUC with suspension. lol
Totally true, the were jumped by Kingsong on the release..mind you STILL dont have a V11 to ride!
Which of the two has longer battery life in practice, less charging time, do you recommend which of the two use 30miles?
Sorry which wheels are you comparing?
@@Speedyfeetuk s18 ou v11
As of now if i was to buy one from speedy feet would all of the changes that kingsong has made apply to the wheel if i ordered it? Or would i have to wait for current stock to sell out and for you to order new stock
They are not currently available from Kingsong, we have stopped pre orders for now sorry.
Speedy Feet UK ah ok no problem. Is there any very rough sort of release date when I can order one?
Do you think their will be a v10 with the motor caracteristics of a v11? Thank you.
I supposed its possible but unlikely perhaps.
Skydio is the best lol
Hello.What is the price?
See: www.speedyfeet.co.uk/collections/electric-unicycle-segway/products/kingsong-ks-s18
Are you in contact with Kingsong? Whats the actual socket size. Many people said that it has a standard socket size but 165 x 35 is not standard. Its 165 x 38. Most good shocks come with a bigger stroke... I wonder if its just gonna be a fail and you cant even put a good shock on this thing. :(
I think the shock is 190 x 50
@@beaglersTP looks too small for that and the DMM the is 165x35.
@@eveoff have you seen the "How to set up the S18 Suspension". Posted by Future Transportation on RUclips. The guy looks to be a Kingsong employee and he says the max travel is 50mm. Also somewhere I've read that the shock is DNM 38RC and the only 50 they do seems to be 190 x 50.
Edit. The DNM 36RC with the double chamber on the pre production came in 3 sizes, 165, 190 and 200.
Also it is the eye to eye measure that dictates if the shock will fit. So EVEN if it is 165x35 it will still fit. The 3mm travel difference can easily be sorted by the pressure in the chamber
@@beaglersTP I know but if the stroke is too high you might have a subpar suspension even if costed you 500 bucks.
@@eveoff I doubt if there is a 3mm difference it would be noticeable. :)
If you do sell it, please include photo of you with wheel and certificate of authenticity that it has been ridden by you..lol. 🤪
ha ha brilliant...that might devalue it 😆
Include the mud and dirt in a little baggie for that extra "Collectors Edition" feel ;)
These are still not UK road legal right? Have they come up with anything? :0/
No. Still not legal. Some movement on electric scooters but not pev’s in general
Telefone do zap min
i keep seeing tons of fish tailing in your trail rides. you have it under control, but if you were less skilled, you might crash more often.
Short answer: can you get 'fish tailing' yeah (in kind of the same way as the 'tank slap' on heavy braking discussed in this video and in depth in video 1).
More indepth answer:
Yeah you for sure can get that, but its kind of rare, with the rear cam shots offroad (close ups) my upper body is twisted whilst holding the cam equipment and also viewing a screen/phone to ensure the wheel is correctly framed; this certainly doesn't help the ride. (For an example, a test to show what I am on about: ride along normally then bed over to turn on the light / any light on a wheel, and that change of posture causes a tank slap.....not in every single case..but you get the point, in a lot of cases it does due to your body being all out of sorts).
Speedy Feet UK I’m all too familiar with bending over filming my Unicycle with my giant dslr rig lol
@@evXNYC yeah, it creates some 'interesting' riding experiences ;)
Manda número do zap
Ride in China, you'll get people pulling out in front of you ALL the time
Max speed 10mph then lol
Hi. I don't know which problem you have in UK with your school, but I bet you can still learn something:
1. "k", not "K"
2. "m" not "M"
Which means: km, not KM
Thanks for the video.
Other than you, who cares?
@@thechumpsbeendumped.7797
You are right, there are so many ignorant around nowadays.
@@paolopetrozzi2213 A wild guess are you American?
@@mehmetkaran998
Your "wild guess"is wrong. Clearly, you are not aware that the "USAnians" don't even know what a km is; The USA is the only country left in the world (other than Burma and an African one) which still use a system derivated from the Imperial one, which means that they use the mile, the yard, the foot, the inch, the fingernail and the pub's hair rather than the meter, just the meter, only the meter.
What does make you think about me rather than thinking about the error which I addressed? An error that too many ignorant people do? "A wild guess": are you one of them?
"The USA is the only country left in the world (other than Burma and an African one) which still use a system derivated from the Imperial one,.."
UK (England, Wales, Scotland, Northern Ireland), still uses Miles, Yards, Feet and Inches...