I feel like elspeth, sun’s champion should have been on the list. She can protect herself by creating blockers or wiping the board in a way that’s likely favorable to you, especially if you’re in mono white. The ultimate is just gravy for white weenie decks
@@___ooobodybagooo___ She's not a commander. There are plenty of decks that have white in them, plus other colours. In those decks, she is one of, if not the most efficient token producer, and a pretty good board wipe on top of that. I wouldn't call "token strategies" niche. There are a lot of them.
@@Stray7 not really, he goes -3 and then you attack and that player should die. After that, Sorin is gonna take too long to -3 again, so no one really cares about him anymore
@@frago321 You assume people are acting rationally & with intent to win. Or that people are playing Sorin at all right in the first place. These are not givens in Commander.
45% off all planeswalker have been released since M19. When a mechanic or card type starts to get pushed that much more than it ever was before you’re going to get some exceptionally good (along with exceptionally bad) cards.
Have we had any exceptionally bad planeswalkers recently? I know compared to the top of the list, some might feel disappointing, but nothing recently feels useless.
@@BCWasbrough pretty much any planeswalker deck walker is basically unplayable as they always have been. The majority of the WAR walkers are on the bad end like domri, jiangg, angrath, etc. Garruk in throne is barely remembered, the new guy in theros (can’t remember his name) and esports were both very underwhelming. Narset in ikoria is boring. Pretty everyone but teferi in m21 is somewhere between boring and bad. And it’s a bit too early for zen but so far nothing has even come close to leaping out as being even playable.
@@W-mans26 was my first commander of my first deck ever and he's still my best deck by far. I like to swap it for Kess Dissident Mage in the 99 though if I'm gonna play tryhards to spam and re spam removal lol
One of my favourite Magic cards is Liliana, Dreadhorde General, and she feels pretty great in commander. Sure, creating a 2/2 for 6 mana is weak, but forcing 3 or 4 opponents to sacrifice 2 creatures each, and getting card draw from it if you have creatures to sac, plus triggering sacrifice payoffs, is amazing. She comes in at 6 loyalty so has a passing chance at untapping, and her -9 is basically game winning if you somehow manage to get it off. Was surprised not to see her here
I dont know if I've ever lost a game of non-cedh after resolving dreadhorde general. If opponents have 2 or less creatures upon resolution its near impossible to remove and takes the game over with card draw
I love Liliana, I have her in 2 decks. She is not even close to Ashiok in terms of power, and you have way too many cards that may wipe the board or draw you cards from your creatures going to graveyard, like Dark Prophecy
SHES SO GOOD!!! She feels like she was designed for commander, and yeah she’s been more productive in my play group than any Teferi or oko that has hit the board.
that was my thought because narset wheel or discard is just stupid in commander shut off pretty much 3 people's hands with one card? yes... and I hate her
Yea pretty glaring omission. It may be that she doesn't do enough on her own, but given how important card draw is in commander, she says "fuck you" to so many strategies. And with Teferi's Puzzle Box she basically prevents your opponents from ever drawing cards, even their one per turn (yes they technically do, but if it isn't an instant/flash they won't be able to use it). There's hardly a situation where she won't induce groans when she hits the table.
Aminatou is grossly underrated. She's easily a staple in any deck including her colors. She makes every other planeswalker twice as powerful, and syngergizes with many, many creatures--and that's just her -1. And yes, I'm talking about her in the 99. Narset, Parter of Veils and Elspeth, Sun's Champion are also massively strong. All three are easily on par with Oko and Ashiok.
Vivien, monster's advocat. She protects herself, tutors for any creature and she has a great static ability. Was really surprised she didn't make the list.
Really good shout, I hadn't even thought of throwing her in an EDH deck but you're right that she basically tutors for any cheap creature, or any creature at all in the late game.
The issue is that the -2 has to be used with lots of mana or wait a whole turn cycle to be used. Most opponents will kill her to prevent that -2 from being used. The +1 creates 1 blocker against 3 opponents. If she survives the turn with 2 or more loyalty, your opponent's are screwed, but she has to survive. A great card with some consistency issues.
Huh. I'm disappointed to see that neither "Elspeth, Sun's Champion" nor "Narset, Parter of Veils" made the list. It also surprised me to see that "Liliana, Dreadhorde General" was absent, but the War of the Spark Tamiyo made it. All in all, good picks Prof, but I'm going to respectfully disagree with one or two.
I agree with Elspeth and Narset. Liliana could be strong, but is such a high CMC and kind of situational. Strong, but not top 10 strong. Tamiyo I have found personally to be exceptionally strong. Definitely underrated. I'd also add Aminatou to the top 10, as she is stronger than most planeswalkers on this list. She is an instant include in any deck with her colors.
@@PhazonOmega Yea but this is for Commander. 6cmc is nothing. Plus I wouldn’t really call her situational, her first 2 abilities synergies with her own static ability. Unless your deck is running little to no creatures she’s a great include in most Black EDH decks.
@@PhazonOmega Lily has saved either me or the entire board state from a stolen or randomly played indestructible eldrazi that aren't on huge boards. The -4 is godlike is many circumstances.
Planeswalker love Doubling Season or Proliferate!!! Espacialy in green or greenish decks. And the fact we got a new Elemental that makes every creature you controll a Land Forest and Nissa can make them indestructible is awesome.
I have a few observations: Like others here have mentioned, the omission of Elspeth, Sun's Champion is pretty big. She's similar to big Ugin in a lot of respects in that she's a boardwipe and sets up well for board presence. Jace, Wielder of Mysteries is another omission that I find a bit offensive, although the fact that Thassa's Oracle exists does hamper him a bit. He's not quite a dead card in non-game-ending situations like Oracle can be at times. Karn, the Great Creator is a one-sided Null Rod that can turn your artifacts into beatsicks or blockers, or animate an opponent's problem artifact so that your black deck can kill it. Jace the Wallet-er, Mind Sculptor is a very strong magic card, and while he's worse in EDH, the raw card quality he is can't be ignored. Liliana, Dreadhorde General is bonkers in any sacrifice deck, and in Yawgmoth in particular, can be devastating as he can easily proliferate her to the point where she can ult the turn after she comes down, or even that turn given enough mana. Liliana of the Dark Realms is a monoblack staple for a reason, being able to grab swamps willy-nilly and let the monoblack deck do its thing without stumbling on land drops for a while. Narset, Parter of Veils is backbreaking to many decks, and wins games given a universal wheel effect with how she can break parity.
Nice. I like your thoughts. I disagree that any Liliana should be in the top 10, but it is worth noting that the one does provide a kind of miss to late game ramp. Mindsculptor isn't ralt top 10 material in my opinion, either, but again, he's song. He can rock certain decks, like Yuriko. I'd say Aminatou deserves to be in the top 10. She's an auto include in any deck with her colors, and instantly makes any planeswalker twice as good. She also gives lots of value to almost whatever board state you have. Her +1 is not typically that good, but her -1 is more than enough, and she rarely dies to her own loyalty ability.
Oh hello to you too Professor! I love your videos and as someone who owns a copy of at least one version of every Planeswalker ever printed, I'm so excited for this video!
I've quit magic for a while, wasn't around for about 2 years, but now I am back into it! And boy oh boy do I like the new professor?!?!?! I don't know what, but something changed with these videos, they are more than talking about magic. I really enjoy this new and improved format of yours that you have nowadays.
Reminder that the Raycons have an absolutely terrible sound quality even compared to earbuds half the price. And the fact that raycons are literally rebranded 20 dollar aliexpress earbuds.
2 things 1) atleast they're not airpods 2) skullcandy hesh 2 wireless, best headphones I've ever had, super long battery life, extremely solid sound (not amazing, but it really does hold up), built like a brick, reasonably comfortable and costed 40$ back when they were still being manufactured (they don't make them anymore so idk how much they are now but they were 50 last I checked, which is still good)
Liliana Dreadhorde General is one of my personal top picks. when she hits the table and you -4 her she will usually get a good chunk of the board cleared and possibly draw you a few cards in the process
Ooh, a cameo from Tamiyo! Also, Nissa, Who Shakes the World is one of my favorite planeswalkers, and the Ugins are good in literally every deck. Nice video, Prof!
Was surprised not to see Teferi, Hero of Dominaria. He's really good to, but all these picks are great. Also, I think that simic Tamiyo just draws you seven if one of your opponents plays Wheel of Fortune cards, right?
Thanks for the advice, I barely use PWs because I'm so afraid of them getting nuked. Also I love that your sponsorship turned into a low key way to throw some shade at your neighbors
These planeswalker are good of course, but i think tou missed important pieces: Narset, Parter of veils Karn, the great creator Sorin, Vengeful Bloodlord Domri, Anarch of Bolas I run all of them in my Sisay deck and their abilities are great, both passive and activated
Liliana Vess is a powerhouse in my mono black aristocrats deck. The -2 tutor ability is amazing for getting all my combos set up, +1 is okay but still disrupts your opponents' plans, ultimate is great but most likely won't happen. All in all, a great walker imo. Thanks Prof for all the awesome content! Have a great week! :D
Kiora, the Crashing Wave is one of my favorites, her +1 stays around until YOUR next turn, and it says permenant. . not just creature. That includes Purphoros, Ugin and many more. If you can keep her alive, her -1 is super solid ramp as well--and if people aren't paying attention-or several people owe u a life debt-and you can ult her, it almost says win the game.
Great video as always, Prof! The "always has been" bit actually had me chuckling. That being said, as others seem to have pointed out the tenth and ninth slots feel a bit weird. What you're looking for when adding a Planeswalker to your deck is their ability to either impact the board the very turn they come into play, protect themselves, net you card advantage or leverage static abilities, often allowing you to be flexible with those choices. While both Vivian and Tamiyo might give you card selection/advantage, they won't do that in an efficient enough way to justify their costs. Simply compare their effects to other spells that aren't strapped on a permanent and you can see the value clearly isn't there. You shouldn't rely on your planeswalker surviving for a whole turn cycle in a multiplayer format in which people WILL focus your walker and make sure it goes down quickly. So, with that out of the way, here are some really powerful planeswalker cards I believe were worthy of mention and the reasoning behind my choices: - Narset, Parter of Veils: How was this card not featured!? Probably the strongest and most annoying static text in a planeswalker card ever to be printed, even worse than Threeferi in my opinion. No wonder it's restricted in Vintage. While she may not protect herself or interact with the board, her prison effect is obnoxious in any format that revolves heavily around card draw. Furthermore, her low casting cost and ability to pretty much "cycle" herself can mean she's a huge threat early on for a somewhat low investment. Narset followed by a wheel-like effect, of which there is an abundance in the card pool, can pretty much seal the deal in a lot of games. - Elspeth, Sun's Champion: She might not be as competitive (like restricted in Magic's most powerful format level of competitive) as the previously mentioned card, but Elspeth stands out as one of white's most powerful planeswalkers,. She can do both the things you're looking for a planeswalker to do in more "fair" Commander environments. She can both swing the board in your favor immediately (and survive at 1 loyalty) or create bodies to protect herself/use as sacrifice fodder. A strong option for sure, and defined the meta during its stay in Standard. - Sorin Markov: The main reason most decks run this card is its ability to essentially circumvent the hefty life totals of the format and just press the "U DED" button. Sorin is great for striking deals with other players in order to take down whoever the biggest threat at the table is with just a few flying attackers. A lot of people seem to get salty about this card due to its "swingy" nature, but I actually think it's pretty fun, especially when it comes out of nowhere. - Liliana, Dreadhorde General: Remember what I said about Elspeth? Yeah, this card has the same qualities WHILE ALSO drawing you cards. Even a modest board of creatures can turn this Planeswalker into an absolute machine. It fits the bill perfectly for what a lot of black decks are looking to do: sacrifice creatures and generate value. This one just feels like it was made for Commander, and should be a consideration in a lot of lists that have an emphasis on aristocrat archetypes. - Jace, Wielder Of Mysteries: A shout out to my cEDH players; this along with Thassa's Oracle have effectively replaced good ol' Lab Man as a win condition in most if not all top tier competitive lists. It's essentially a two card win the game combo with Demonic Consultation and, unlike its human wizard predecessor, it can actually do something when your win condition is out of range or when afraid of interaction. Any card that has the "you win the game" clause on it very likely to be exploitable. - Nissa, Vital Force: The play pattern for Kaladesh Block's iteration of everyone's "no longer racist" and "no longer bissexual" elf planeswalker is somewhat linear. Play her when you have the highest odds of untapping with her (seriously I've seen her pop up on turn 2 thanks to Burgeoning), take her up to make make sure enemy attacks don't go through, pray that she sticks around, then use her "ultimate" and proceed to win the game. Jokes aside, this is a fantastic card for lands themed decks, it's as much of a threat as it is an outrageous value engine, combining what are probably the most desired effects in Commander: ramping and drawing cards. Timing is key with this one. - Dack Fayden: I was a bit reluctant to add multi-color costed planeswalkers to this list, as I wanted to keep it as broad and flexible as possible in terms of color identity, but if there's one planeswalker card that is two or more colors you should keep an eye out for that's Dack Fayden. Our (kind of) recently deceased blue red trickster can cause quite a ruckus at the table for it's cost and if he sticks around he will likely provide you some good value though repeated looting. A lot of the early turns of Commander revolve around ramping and frequently enough through mana rocks. Dack can just get in there and straight up steal a Sol Ring while keeping himself barely alive. Is there a better feeling than this? Maybe, but it sure does feel sweet. Again, I really appreciate all the content you put out there, Prof. You're my favorite MtG creator by a long shot. Sorry if this comment is overly long, I just have nothing better to do with my time this Saturday evening (I wish I was playing over at my LGS or something but 2020 is a thing). Love ya, cheers!
I'll be honest myself, I feel like the low slots should also have honorable mentions for being great catch up walkers no one really minds leaving on the board. There's something to be said for dropping a Vivien that answers someone's Lodestone Golem and nobody minds you hunting lands with her for three turns xD
To be honest, I'm surprised Dack Fayden wasn't on here. Being able to nab people's Sol Rings and signets, in the early game is such a huge tempo swing. He also provides wonderful card filtering that will help you dig for the pieces you need. His ultimate is just gravy, but can easily win the game if you can get it to work. Being able to take anything just by targeting it is super fun :)
Tolarian Community College... how did I just notice halfway through this video that your background music was the theme music for Kerbal Space Program? >D
As a pure EDH player who loves playing Simic I have to admit that Oko rant was great and I'm loving the content. I'd add Narset, Parter of Veils and Karn, the Great Creator to my Top 10 list with arguably the most powerful static abilities ever printed alongside Ashiok.
I used to believe that Oko was as much of a beast in EDH as he's on the 60-cards constructed formats but after a few games playing him consistently I realized even with his unconditional removal he really gets outpaced against 3 opponents. Granted my group does run adequate removal and wipes along creatures so most times he just comes down to turn a creature into an elk an die but I guess on more control focused (or even cEDH) tables he can still wreck anyone's day.
@3:28 " *negative* three" . @3:56 "her *plus* one" . Prof, why is that? Why are all of the content creators saying Negative when they see "-" and Plus when they see "+"? It always made me wonder. English is not my native language, so maybe I am missing out on a grammar rule or something. When we say "Plus" the opposite should be "Minus". When we are saying "Negative" then we should also say "Positive". Yet all of you say "a plus 1/plus 1 counter" and "a negative 1/ negative 1 counter" (instead of "a minus 1/ minus 1" counter) all the time. I haven't heard anyone saying "positive counters", so what's up with the "negative counters"? Could someone clear that up for me please? Thanks!
As a native English speaker, I also find it weird. I always say minus. But I think it’s because, when we see -5, we think of math class, where that was called “negative five.” But we never saw a plus sign in front of positive numbers (it wasn’t written as +5), nor did we call them “positive five.” It was always just 5/five. So we don’t read +5 as “positive five” but we do read -5 as “negative five.” Just the way we learned things.
One of the things I really don't like about Oko is how he permanently turns something into something else. He doesn't destroy it or exile it and replace it with a token. And it's not like, an aura showing that the permanent has a persistent effect changing it's name, stats, etc... Am I wrong, or isn't that kind of against all of the design leading up to this point? I've played magic a long time, and I thought that it was only instants and sorceries that changed the characteristics of cards this way, and only temporarily (until end of turn usually). Is it not super weird to have a persistent effect that's not demonstrated in any way? Flavour wise, that means there's no ongoing magic keeping the thing changed? It's just, an elk now, never to be dispelled. And from a tracking, design point of view, this is just weird and awful. Am I off base here?
If it was a minus ability, it would have been a lot better. There are a few enchantment aura spells I've seen that do the same thing, but you can interact with them
The real problem, besides it being a PLUS ability for some reason, is that there's no way to interact with it beyond countering the ability or destroying the target yourself. Once it's been transformed, it's that way forever and there's no getting the original back without finding someone willing to let you chump block or otherwise destroy it directly yourself. Even when Oko is gone, that thing is still a 3/3 elk for as long as it remains on the board and that's just extremely annoying. At least with Darksteel Mutation, you can remove the enchantment. With this? You're SOL.
I always love playing Liliana of the Dark Realms in my mono black commander deck. Being able to guarantee a land drop every turn is great and I've found she's usualy not a high priority target for most people at a table so she usually sticks around a few turns and can use her removal ability.
Saheeli, sublime artificer. Makes tokens whenever you cast a non-creature spell And can make token copies of either creatures with haste or artifacts. Great for combo, gumming up the board with tokens or getting a suprise lethal. Super good in any deck with izzet colors.
So glad you put Ugin, the ineffable in this list. I also want to mention that he works well in artifact decks like Bosh and especially in eldrazi decks cause they are all colorless. Oh it has color? Devoid classifies it as colorless!
I remember cracking open my very first Fate Reforged pack from the fat pack at release, and Ugin was there. I read him, stared at the art for a bit, said "huh, cool." and didn't think twice about him. I was really just getting back into the game after about a 15 year break, and found some friends from work were really into don't and MagicTG like me. We went online to check card prices after we all got done cracking packs, and were extremely surprised to see Ugin at over $25 at time of release. We went back and reread the card, started looking up strategies, and I try to play him in most decks now.
It should have been all wots planeswalkers given how most of them are just powerful stax pieces, even though karn can't use his best ability without house rules turning off artifact ramp is just powerful.
My second highest win rate deck is a 50 walker superfriends deck. I don’t have enough money for most of the popular planeswalkers, so I use ones I open or trade for.
Thanks Prof, loving the new Game oriented lists like this, reminds me of the earlier Command Zone episodes, but with your crazy spin on things .. Keep up the great work & stay safe. I'm surprised Narset Parter of veils was not on the list, but maybe she was just tooooo naughty! lol ;)
From a lore perspective, I just love how good Ugin the Ineffable is in my Meren eldrazi deck. Ugin put great effort into containing the eldrazi, yet his -3 refuses to destroy them, and he passively helps them spread... anyone else suspicious?
This is great because there are so many that could be debatable additions to this list. I'm partial to Elspeth Sun's Champion and Nicol Bolas of any variety.
Always enjoyed playing Teferi, Master of Time in my graveyard decks, draws cards, fills your yard, phases creatures out & has a game ending ultimate all at instant speed on each players turn.
Liliana of the Dark Realms - Swamp each turn, removal/buff if needed and a pretty good ultimate. Nissa, Vital Force - Ult after 1 turn, which lets your drawn lands replace themself. Huatli, Radiant Champion - Swarm, draw draw draw draw....... Koth of the Hammer - Mono red ramp is pretty decent in my opinion. Those are the ones, I'm missing on this list
Honestly "Elspeth, Undaunted Hero" is a gem hidden in a PW Starter Deck. The fact that the Sunlit Hoplite can be pulled from the deck or graveyard, coupled with Sunlit only caring that you have an Elspeth Planeswalker (not just Undaunted), gives you a nice creature to block with. Giving your creatures +X/+X and flying equal to your devotion to white is a nice finisher as well.
3:50 Great list! Really enjoyed the video. I think there could be an argument for Freyalise, Llanowar's Fury over Vivien Reid. Obviously depends on the deck though.
I'm partial to Vivien Monster's Advocate in creature-centric. Gives you a creature that can be flexible on it's abilities, pseudo draw of the top, and a fun creature cascade effect
My favorite Commander deck is definitely my 5-color Superfriends deck :) Vraska the Unseen Tamiyo, the Moon Sage Nissa, Vital Force Elspeth, Sun's Champion Sorin, Grim Nemesis Narset Transcendent
My ramos superfriends deck absolutely loves liliana vess. Being able to tutor for a doubling season for 5 and possibly grabbing a tamiyo after is usually a gamewinner.
I don't play commander as I don't have a friend group that plays magic, but my first thought for this list was Nissa who shakes the world, just such a crazy amount of ramp even if you don't get to ultimate. my third favourite card of all time, favourite being Risen Reef and second Thalia, Heretic Cathar.
I've gotten some pretty serious value out of Nissa of Shadowed Boughs in my Muldrotha deck. Pretty easy to just keep casting her from the graveyard and playing a creature from your yard/hand with +2/+2. Or just untapping Cabal Coffers is pretty great.
Garruk, Caller of Beasts was the first Planeswalker I ever pulled and in commander he never disappoints. Grabbing either every creature out of your top 5 cards is amazing and putting a green creature into play with his minus 3 is amazing for 6 mana.
One of my favorite Planeswalkers is Domri, Chaos Bringer. +1 to give riot to a creature, card selection as a minus, and making a 4/4 on each turn forever as an ultimate is nuts.
Saheeli, Sublime Artificer is my favorite card to play in Commander. If I am playing any manner of Izzet combination, I cram her in the deck. She is easy to cast, has very little "Oh crap!" tendencies but can virtually do anything you need her to. It's unfortunate she doesn't have a + ability, but what she does do is contribute to the party and help set up some pretty neat turns. Honorable mention status at the very least.
Love the list, as a 5 color walker player I 95% would agree with the choices. The 5% would be only 3 edits but idk where to swap lol. Narset, parter of veils, karn, great creator, and teferi, temporal archmage. Narset can shut down draw which is super relevant agenced draw(I'm just saying don't feed the fish!) Karn just outright stops mana rocks which everyone at least has 2 of in edh. The last one, has a -1 that untaps 4 thing in play. Teferi practically pays for hiself and if he sticks can be game ending.
Dack Fayden....Dack Fade-out....justice for Dack xD Dack fayden should have been on this list i think. Even in war of the spark where countless walkers were printed, he was killed in the low and never saw a reprint or new version. His lore is rich, his red//blue cost of 3 is exceptionally good, he draws and discards for anyone, steals artifacts and boy... that emblem is just the icing on the cake
many already mentioned both of them in the comments, but despite being 6 CMC both Elspeth, Sun's Champion (protect herself with 3 tokens, selective boardwipe) and Liliana, Dreadhorde General (card draw, removal, a bit of protection with the token) are good ladies in their respective colours. I would also add Karn, Great Creator for his static ability disabling opponent's artifact, especially in metas with less creatures and more mana rocks around.
Maybe it’s because I like my Selesnya Selvala utility land deck, but Nissa from Kaladesh is a favorite of mine. Makes a blocking land followed by the ult next turn if you can pull it off which is one sided horn of greed, so great early game with undeveloped board states. And late game helps out by picking up a permanent from the graveyard. I totally understand why she ain’t there though
I can't wait to search around and build my first ever custom commander deck. I just got into it and my neighbors play games at my place like every other night! Unfortunately I'm playing saheeli the gifted pre built 2018 deck right now and losing almost every night but its still fun. Not sure if ill just upgrade my pre built first or build a new deck first. Lots of fun though regardless!
When I was a kid me and my father lived on top of a neighbour that liked to play really loud Acid jazz or something like that. It sounded like experimental sound torture. My dad got fed up one day and took his badass sound system, tilted his big effing speakers downwards and played some very, very, very loud heavy metal right back at the neighbour. It was silent for a long time after that I remember. 😂
Honestly, one of my favorite planeswalkers in EDH is Dack Fayden. His plus one gives you some nice card draw, his minus two steals powerful artifact, and his ultimate allows you to steal anything you target. I usually only pick planeswalkers for there plus and minuses, and rarely there ultimate. Dacks first two abilities have won me games, and had a perfect home in my dark rose Marchesa deck.
Thanks for another great video! I love the way you build your videos, your excellent insight, and most of all sense of humor. I'm sure you won't get to read this but I appreciate your work! Thank you!
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I feel like elspeth, sun’s champion should have been on the list. She can protect herself by creating blockers or wiping the board in a way that’s likely favorable to you, especially if you’re in mono white. The ultimate is just gravy for white weenie decks
She’s in my Darien deck and my goodness does she carry the deck when she’s on the field
I was also surprised to not see her on this list 😱
She's one me many games on her own.
I play elspeth in my human deck. As a board wipe and to make all my humans flying
@@___ooobodybagooo___ She's not a commander. There are plenty of decks that have white in them, plus other colours. In those decks, she is one of, if not the most efficient token producer, and a pretty good board wipe on top of that.
I wouldn't call "token strategies" niche. There are a lot of them.
Sorin Markov is always terrifying when it comes down
For one player, perhaps. Then you use him, and instantly become Archenemy. The juice often isn't worth the squeeze.
@@Stray7 bruh if you bring someone’s life down to 10 you better end them that turn leaving one less player against you and that’s pretty powerful
@@Stray7 not really, he goes -3 and then you attack and that player should die.
After that, Sorin is gonna take too long to -3 again, so no one really cares about him anymore
@@TheUltimateRey sornin ability followed by sorins vengence or another drain spell like drain life or exsanguinate with tribal vampires to protect him
@@frago321 You assume people are acting rationally & with intent to win. Or that people are playing Sorin at all right in the first place. These are not givens in Commander.
Prof, give ur neighbor the raycons as a passive aggressive “gift”
This ^^
OR be well adjusted and accept that sometimes you have to confront people.
Or give them a pair of good earbuds instead, something from Bose or Sennheiser
He’s required by the sponsorship to give a personal anecdote to how the product benefitted him. He probably greatly exaggerated his neighbors’ noise.
7 out of 10 were printed in the last year or two. that tells something.
45% off all planeswalker have been released since M19. When a mechanic or card type starts to get pushed that much more than it ever was before you’re going to get some exceptionally good (along with exceptionally bad) cards.
Have we had any exceptionally bad planeswalkers recently? I know compared to the top of the list, some might feel disappointing, but nothing recently feels useless.
@@BCWasbrough Basri ket was pretty awful
@@BCWasbrough pretty much any planeswalker deck walker is basically unplayable as they always have been. The majority of the WAR walkers are on the bad end like domri, jiangg, angrath, etc. Garruk in throne is barely remembered, the new guy in theros (can’t remember his name) and esports were both very underwhelming. Narset in ikoria is boring. Pretty everyone but teferi in m21 is somewhere between boring and bad. And it’s a bit too early for zen but so far nothing has even come close to leaping out as being even playable.
That the print too much with commander in mind for standard sets.
Me: "Wait, Ugin is #1!?"
Prof: *pulls out gun* "Always has been."
And second. F-ing Dragon.
Bolas the ravager is also a very good commander
@@W-mans26 was my first commander of my first deck ever and he's still my best deck by far. I like to swap it for Kess Dissident Mage in the 99 though if I'm gonna play tryhards to spam and re spam removal lol
dack fayden is so underrated, 99% of the time he's a 2 mana flip on an opponent. Being able to flip 2 cards is great too. ALL FOR THREE MANA
And don't forget the fun that comes from targeting an opponent with that ability when you have a Notion Thief out
Dack is too good. Nothing like taking peoples mana rocks. Giving you "mana ramp" in a red blue deck MMMMM
@@mattmiller8818 Gross. Never even thought of that.
Dack Fayden's average price would argue with your underrated assertion.
You do know Dack is a stable in Competive EDH.
One of my favourite Magic cards is Liliana, Dreadhorde General, and she feels pretty great in commander. Sure, creating a 2/2 for 6 mana is weak, but forcing 3 or 4 opponents to sacrifice 2 creatures each, and getting card draw from it if you have creatures to sac, plus triggering sacrifice payoffs, is amazing. She comes in at 6 loyalty so has a passing chance at untapping, and her -9 is basically game winning if you somehow manage to get it off. Was surprised not to see her here
I dont know if I've ever lost a game of non-cedh after resolving dreadhorde general. If opponents have 2 or less creatures upon resolution its near impossible to remove and takes the game over with card draw
I love Liliana, I have her in 2 decks. She is not even close to Ashiok in terms of power, and you have way too many cards that may wipe the board or draw you cards from your creatures going to graveyard, like Dark Prophecy
amazing in Prossh deck my friend, you can drop all your hand to the table, cast Prossh and recover all your hand just sacrificing the kobolds
Her in my Prossh and Meren deck is one of the stars. In Prossh I literally lose count of how many cards I draw with her out.
SHES SO GOOD!!! She feels like she was designed for commander, and yeah she’s been more productive in my play group than any Teferi or oko that has hit the board.
12:47 I'm pretty sure you can't trade food token for mana crypt since it only states "...target *creature* an opponent controls..."
You're right. Oh well, I guess we'll just have to turn it into an elk first before we trade a food for it! xD
Exactly! Oko should come into play with 2 loyalty...
The loyalty is kinda fine, the fact that his +1 ability is not a -2 is the op part
@@JocoBreRbC Disagree. Obviously his +1 ability should be a -, but a 3 mana walker entering with 5 loyalty is wild.
@@deathtoallturkeys it enters with 2 if his second ability is minus 2
I could have sworn that Narset, Parter of Veils would be on the list.
She is so good... Everyone in my local store hates me, and I think she has something with that.
that was my thought because narset wheel or discard is just stupid in commander shut off pretty much 3 people's hands with one card? yes... and I hate her
Yea pretty glaring omission. It may be that she doesn't do enough on her own, but given how important card draw is in commander, she says "fuck you" to so many strategies. And with Teferi's Puzzle Box she basically prevents your opponents from ever drawing cards, even their one per turn (yes they technically do, but if it isn't an instant/flash they won't be able to use it). There's hardly a situation where she won't induce groans when she hits the table.
I was expecting her too.
@@gildarmesh3809 I use her because there are wheels players on my playgroup. So they get really pissed off by others Narsets
Elspeth, Sun's Champion has always been a favorite of mine, a staple in any white decks
Yes! She's so strong on her own, and does almost anything you could want!
Aminatou is grossly underrated. She's easily a staple in any deck including her colors. She makes every other planeswalker twice as powerful, and syngergizes with many, many creatures--and that's just her -1. And yes, I'm talking about her in the 99.
Narset, Parter of Veils and Elspeth, Sun's Champion are also massively strong. All three are easily on par with Oko and Ashiok.
Vivien, monster's advocat.
She protects herself, tutors for any creature and she has a great static ability.
Was really surprised she didn't make the list.
Really good shout, I hadn't even thought of throwing her in an EDH deck but you're right that she basically tutors for any cheap creature, or any creature at all in the late game.
Her -2 is like tooth and nail, blame or thank covid for her being slept on
The issue is that the -2 has to be used with lots of mana or wait a whole turn cycle to be used. Most opponents will kill her to prevent that -2 from being used. The +1 creates 1 blocker against 3 opponents.
If she survives the turn with 2 or more loyalty, your opponent's are screwed, but she has to survive. A great card with some consistency issues.
Huh. I'm disappointed to see that neither "Elspeth, Sun's Champion" nor "Narset, Parter of Veils" made the list. It also surprised me to see that "Liliana, Dreadhorde General" was absent, but the War of the Spark Tamiyo made it. All in all, good picks Prof, but I'm going to respectfully disagree with one or two.
you should be way higher
I agree with Elspeth and Narset.
Liliana could be strong, but is such a high CMC and kind of situational. Strong, but not top 10 strong.
Tamiyo I have found personally to be exceptionally strong. Definitely underrated.
I'd also add Aminatou to the top 10, as she is stronger than most planeswalkers on this list. She is an instant include in any deck with her colors.
@@PhazonOmega Yea but this is for Commander. 6cmc is nothing. Plus I wouldn’t really call her situational, her first 2 abilities synergies with her own static ability. Unless your deck is running little to no creatures she’s a great include in most Black EDH decks.
@@PhazonOmega Lily has saved either me or the entire board state from a stolen or randomly played indestructible eldrazi that aren't on huge boards. The -4 is godlike is many circumstances.
Jace "Temple" Beleren has always been a favourite of mine as a group hug player.
Hello fellow group hugger. I see you're a man of culture.
Good old party Jace, the one walker people don't want to kill instantly.
I love him, and no one feels too bad if you just -1 him on occasion to just get yourself a card.
Ahahaha, the name pun here. Temple Belleren xD
Also Ugin, The Spirit Dragon can wipe the board of tokens for -X, X being 0.
Planeswalker love Doubling Season or Proliferate!!! Espacialy in green or greenish decks. And the fact we got a new Elemental that makes every creature you controll a Land Forest and Nissa can make them indestructible is awesome.
Oooh, yeah! That sounds exciting!
Point of order: If tezzeret, the seeker untaps candelabra of tawnos and a voltaic key he can generate more mana than Garruk Wildspeaker
If he untaps The Chain Veil and Chromatic Orrery he can generate infinite mana.
I have a few observations: Like others here have mentioned, the omission of Elspeth, Sun's Champion is pretty big. She's similar to big Ugin in a lot of respects in that she's a boardwipe and sets up well for board presence. Jace, Wielder of Mysteries is another omission that I find a bit offensive, although the fact that Thassa's Oracle exists does hamper him a bit. He's not quite a dead card in non-game-ending situations like Oracle can be at times. Karn, the Great Creator is a one-sided Null Rod that can turn your artifacts into beatsicks or blockers, or animate an opponent's problem artifact so that your black deck can kill it. Jace the Wallet-er, Mind Sculptor is a very strong magic card, and while he's worse in EDH, the raw card quality he is can't be ignored. Liliana, Dreadhorde General is bonkers in any sacrifice deck, and in Yawgmoth in particular, can be devastating as he can easily proliferate her to the point where she can ult the turn after she comes down, or even that turn given enough mana. Liliana of the Dark Realms is a monoblack staple for a reason, being able to grab swamps willy-nilly and let the monoblack deck do its thing without stumbling on land drops for a while. Narset, Parter of Veils is backbreaking to many decks, and wins games given a universal wheel effect with how she can break parity.
Nice. I like your thoughts. I disagree that any Liliana should be in the top 10, but it is worth noting that the one does provide a kind of miss to late game ramp. Mindsculptor isn't ralt top 10 material in my opinion, either, but again, he's song. He can rock certain decks, like Yuriko.
I'd say Aminatou deserves to be in the top 10. She's an auto include in any deck with her colors, and instantly makes any planeswalker twice as good. She also gives lots of value to almost whatever board state you have. Her +1 is not typically that good, but her -1 is more than enough, and she rarely dies to her own loyalty ability.
With commander legends coming out with some decently strong partner planeswalkers this video could get completely upended by next month xD
Yeah like a commander that basically goes scorpion on other players commanders lmao cant wait for that
How many of those will be playable in the 99 tho? Which is what this video is about
@@zacharysain8516 the one im talking about is a commander
Oh hello to you too Professor! I love your videos and as someone who owns a copy of at least one version of every Planeswalker ever printed, I'm so excited for this video!
Missed out on the slot for Elspeth Sun's Champion or Liliana, Dreadhorde General. Great cards to have in edh
I would totally see a video by you about writing "Gaea's Cradle" on a basic forest!
Plainswalkers are the bane of my existence :D They are cool in commander though, where you don't see the same ones every single game!
I've quit magic for a while, wasn't around for about 2 years, but now I am back into it! And boy oh boy do I like the new professor?!?!?! I don't know what, but something changed with these videos, they are more than talking about magic. I really enjoy this new and improved format of yours that you have nowadays.
Reminder that the Raycons have an absolutely terrible sound quality even compared to earbuds half the price. And the fact that raycons are literally rebranded 20 dollar aliexpress earbuds.
keep calling out the trash companies my dude!
Facts. If are an audiophile, don't cheapen out on earbuds.
@@tempestandacomputer6951 I'm not even an audiophile, just a consumer who doesn't like others getting scammed.
@@YodielandInhabitant710 Facts.
2 things
1) atleast they're not airpods
2) skullcandy hesh 2 wireless, best headphones I've ever had, super long battery life, extremely solid sound (not amazing, but it really does hold up), built like a brick, reasonably comfortable and costed 40$ back when they were still being manufactured (they don't make them anymore so idk how much they are now but they were 50 last I checked, which is still good)
Liliana Dreadhorde General is one of my personal top picks. when she hits the table and you -4 her she will usually get a good chunk of the board cleared and possibly draw you a few cards in the process
I know that feeling unfortunately, professor. 😆
Instead of loud music it was motorcycles, my neighbors would rev them at 3 in the morning.
Ooh, a cameo from Tamiyo! Also, Nissa, Who Shakes the World is one of my favorite planeswalkers, and the Ugins are good in literally every deck. Nice video, Prof!
Was surprised not to see Teferi, Hero of Dominaria. He's really good to, but all these picks are great. Also, I think that simic Tamiyo just draws you seven if one of your opponents plays Wheel of Fortune cards, right?
Killin it, friend. Love that you did an actually entertaining thing with your sponsor message.
Sorin Markov is probably my favorite, but no “Screw Your Hand” Bolas here?
Thanks for the advice, I barely use PWs because I'm so afraid of them getting nuked.
Also I love that your sponsorship turned into a low key way to throw some shade at your neighbors
These planeswalker are good of course, but i think tou missed important pieces:
Narset, Parter of veils
Karn, the great creator
Sorin, Vengeful Bloodlord
Domri, Anarch of Bolas
I run all of them in my Sisay deck and their abilities are great, both passive and activated
I got back into MTG after being out of it since Kamigawa. I grabbed some packs of Core21 and pulled an Ugin. He really is shockingly strong.
I feel like that ad in the intro was not directed towards me.
Liliana Vess is a powerhouse in my mono black aristocrats deck. The -2 tutor ability is amazing for getting all my combos set up, +1 is okay but still disrupts your opponents' plans, ultimate is great but most likely won't happen. All in all, a great walker imo. Thanks Prof for all the awesome content! Have a great week! :D
Oko, the of damn where did my commander go planswalker
What do you mean commander? You mean that elk?
Ahhhhh oko in arena getting banned a week after release
Same with omnath locust of creation
Glad to see you are still smiling professor! Don't give up!
Kiora, the Crashing Wave is one of my favorites, her +1 stays around until YOUR next turn, and it says permenant. . not just creature. That includes Purphoros, Ugin and many more. If you can keep her alive, her -1 is super solid ramp as well--and if people aren't paying attention-or several people owe u a life debt-and you can ult her, it almost says win the game.
Oooh, nice point! I never noticed that.
Yes I’m so glad ugin got reprinted too! I never thought I’d own one when they were $70+! But I was at my LGS and surprised to find out they were 25 :)
Prof- "Do you like to listen to loud amd obnoxious music"
Me- while listening to heavy metal "what is this loud and obnoxious music you speak of??"
Skrillex
Mr. Bungle maybe?
Lol, same. Out of curiosity, what sort of metal bands do you listen to?
@@georgericketts4611 Cannibal Corpse, Mushroomhead, Metallica (love classics), Lamb of God, BFMV, Slipknot etc
@@LordDuddy77 Niiice! I can tell we have a similar taste in metal. I haven’t given mushroomhead a listen though. Would you recommend them?
Great video as always, Prof! The "always has been" bit actually had me chuckling. That being said, as others seem to have pointed out the tenth and ninth slots feel a bit weird.
What you're looking for when adding a Planeswalker to your deck is their ability to either impact the board the very turn they come into play, protect themselves, net you card advantage or leverage static abilities, often allowing you to be flexible with those choices. While both Vivian and Tamiyo might give you card selection/advantage, they won't do that in an efficient enough way to justify their costs. Simply compare their effects to other spells that aren't strapped on a permanent and you can see the value clearly isn't there. You shouldn't rely on your planeswalker surviving for a whole turn cycle in a multiplayer format in which people WILL focus your walker and make sure it goes down quickly.
So, with that out of the way, here are some really powerful planeswalker cards I believe were worthy of mention and the reasoning behind my choices:
- Narset, Parter of Veils: How was this card not featured!? Probably the strongest and most annoying static text in a planeswalker card ever to be printed, even worse than Threeferi in my opinion. No wonder it's restricted in Vintage. While she may not protect herself or interact with the board, her prison effect is obnoxious in any format that revolves heavily around card draw. Furthermore, her low casting cost and ability to pretty much "cycle" herself can mean she's a huge threat early on for a somewhat low investment. Narset followed by a wheel-like effect, of which there is an abundance in the card pool, can pretty much seal the deal in a lot of games.
- Elspeth, Sun's Champion: She might not be as competitive (like restricted in Magic's most powerful format level of competitive) as the previously mentioned card, but Elspeth stands out as one of white's most powerful planeswalkers,. She can do both the things you're looking for a planeswalker to do in more "fair" Commander environments. She can both swing the board in your favor immediately (and survive at 1 loyalty) or create bodies to protect herself/use as sacrifice fodder. A strong option for sure, and defined the meta during its stay in Standard.
- Sorin Markov: The main reason most decks run this card is its ability to essentially circumvent the hefty life totals of the format and just press the "U DED" button. Sorin is great for striking deals with other players in order to take down whoever the biggest threat at the table is with just a few flying attackers. A lot of people seem to get salty about this card due to its "swingy" nature, but I actually think it's pretty fun, especially when it comes out of nowhere.
- Liliana, Dreadhorde General: Remember what I said about Elspeth? Yeah, this card has the same qualities WHILE ALSO drawing you cards. Even a modest board of creatures can turn this Planeswalker into an absolute machine. It fits the bill perfectly for what a lot of black decks are looking to do: sacrifice creatures and generate value. This one just feels like it was made for Commander, and should be a consideration in a lot of lists that have an emphasis on aristocrat archetypes.
- Jace, Wielder Of Mysteries: A shout out to my cEDH players; this along with Thassa's Oracle have effectively replaced good ol' Lab Man as a win condition in most if not all top tier competitive lists. It's essentially a two card win the game combo with Demonic Consultation and, unlike its human wizard predecessor, it can actually do something when your win condition is out of range or when afraid of interaction. Any card that has the "you win the game" clause on it very likely to be exploitable.
- Nissa, Vital Force: The play pattern for Kaladesh Block's iteration of everyone's "no longer racist" and "no longer bissexual" elf planeswalker is somewhat linear. Play her when you have the highest odds of untapping with her (seriously I've seen her pop up on turn 2 thanks to Burgeoning), take her up to make make sure enemy attacks don't go through, pray that she sticks around, then use her "ultimate" and proceed to win the game. Jokes aside, this is a fantastic card for lands themed decks, it's as much of a threat as it is an outrageous value engine, combining what are probably the most desired effects in Commander: ramping and drawing cards. Timing is key with this one.
- Dack Fayden: I was a bit reluctant to add multi-color costed planeswalkers to this list, as I wanted to keep it as broad and flexible as possible in terms of color identity, but if there's one planeswalker card that is two or more colors you should keep an eye out for that's Dack Fayden. Our (kind of) recently deceased blue red trickster can cause quite a ruckus at the table for it's cost and if he sticks around he will likely provide you some good value though repeated looting. A lot of the early turns of Commander revolve around ramping and frequently enough through mana rocks. Dack can just get in there and straight up steal a Sol Ring while keeping himself barely alive. Is there a better feeling than this? Maybe, but it sure does feel sweet.
Again, I really appreciate all the content you put out there, Prof. You're my favorite MtG creator by a long shot. Sorry if this comment is overly long, I just have nothing better to do with my time this Saturday evening (I wish I was playing over at my LGS or something but 2020 is a thing). Love ya, cheers!
I'll be honest myself, I feel like the low slots should also have honorable mentions for being great catch up walkers no one really minds leaving on the board. There's something to be said for dropping a Vivien that answers someone's Lodestone Golem and nobody minds you hunting lands with her for three turns xD
Anyone else watch Prof’s vids simply just to hear him talk, I know I do.
I have my headphones on while playing brawl on arena. It's nice to even just listen to.
Yes
To be honest, I'm surprised Dack Fayden wasn't on here. Being able to nab people's Sol Rings and signets, in the early game is such a huge tempo swing. He also provides wonderful card filtering that will help you dig for the pieces you need. His ultimate is just gravy, but can easily win the game if you can get it to work. Being able to take anything just by targeting it is super fun :)
I was convinced that Narset, Parter of Veils would make the Top 3.
Seriously. I have to look for a reason NOT to run her in my blue decks
Tolarian Community College... how did I just notice halfway through this video that your background music was the theme music for Kerbal Space Program? >D
My Golos superfriends: Go on, Professor, I'm listening.
I started brewing a super pals Atroxa deck last night. Perfect timing professor!
Waiting to see Sorin Markov
As a pure EDH player who loves playing Simic I have to admit that Oko rant was great and I'm loving the content. I'd add Narset, Parter of Veils and Karn, the Great Creator to my Top 10 list with arguably the most powerful static abilities ever printed alongside Ashiok.
I appreciate that you call him “Oogin” and not “Eugene”, that’s how I think his name is said too.
yeah im not a fan of the pet names for magic cards either.
Steve.
Who the F is steve?
You know the tribe elder guy...
Sakura Tribe Elder = STE = STEve.
Yeah, it's dumb.
The only fan name I accept is sane braids for braids, conjuror adept
I used to believe that Oko was as much of a beast in EDH as he's on the 60-cards constructed formats but after a few games playing him consistently I realized even with his unconditional removal he really gets outpaced against 3 opponents. Granted my group does run adequate removal and wipes along creatures so most times he just comes down to turn a creature into an elk an die but I guess on more control focused (or even cEDH) tables he can still wreck anyone's day.
In my play group, the second an Oko drops, that player is arch enemy
@@adamwhittaker9548 as they should be lol
@3:28 " *negative* three" . @3:56 "her *plus* one" . Prof, why is that? Why are all of the content creators saying Negative when they see "-" and Plus when they see "+"? It always made me wonder. English is not my native language, so maybe I am missing out on a grammar rule or something. When we say "Plus" the opposite should be "Minus".
When we are saying "Negative" then we should also say "Positive".
Yet all of you say "a plus 1/plus 1 counter" and "a negative 1/ negative 1 counter" (instead of "a minus 1/ minus 1" counter) all the time.
I haven't heard anyone saying "positive counters", so what's up with the "negative counters"? Could someone clear that up for me please? Thanks!
It varies between who's saying it. I've heard it both ways,but generally its negative 1/ negative 1. Or neg 1/ neg 1 for short.
Actually, I have been wondering the same since I am also not a native speaker
As a native English speaker, I also find it weird. I always say minus. But I think it’s because, when we see -5, we think of math class, where that was called “negative five.” But we never saw a plus sign in front of positive numbers (it wasn’t written as +5), nor did we call them “positive five.” It was always just 5/five.
So we don’t read +5 as “positive five” but we do read -5 as “negative five.” Just the way we learned things.
@@Crunchatize_Me_Senpai I see what you mean, that explains it. Thanks! :)
Liked just for the hilarious sponsor segment with the neighbour joke :D xDD great work prof
One of the things I really don't like about Oko is how he permanently turns something into something else. He doesn't destroy it or exile it and replace it with a token. And it's not like, an aura showing that the permanent has a persistent effect changing it's name, stats, etc...
Am I wrong, or isn't that kind of against all of the design leading up to this point? I've played magic a long time, and I thought that it was only instants and sorceries that changed the characteristics of cards this way, and only temporarily (until end of turn usually). Is it not super weird to have a persistent effect that's not demonstrated in any way? Flavour wise, that means there's no ongoing magic keeping the thing changed? It's just, an elk now, never to be dispelled.
And from a tracking, design point of view, this is just weird and awful. Am I off base here?
If the elk was "until the end of that opponent's next turn" I think it could've been okay. but permanent? yeah no.
I agree with you.
I agree, it's stupid overpowered and throws all MTG mechanics out the window
If it was a minus ability, it would have been a lot better.
There are a few enchantment aura spells I've seen that do the same thing, but you can interact with them
The real problem, besides it being a PLUS ability for some reason, is that there's no way to interact with it beyond countering the ability or destroying the target yourself. Once it's been transformed, it's that way forever and there's no getting the original back without finding someone willing to let you chump block or otherwise destroy it directly yourself. Even when Oko is gone, that thing is still a 3/3 elk for as long as it remains on the board and that's just extremely annoying.
At least with Darksteel Mutation, you can remove the enchantment. With this? You're SOL.
I always love playing Liliana of the Dark Realms in my mono black commander deck. Being able to guarantee a land drop every turn is great and I've found she's usualy not a high priority target for most people at a table so she usually sticks around a few turns and can use her removal ability.
I am surprised that the black planeswalker that drops someone to 10 life when cast is not here... player removal is the only way
Sorin markov. One of my favorite cards.
Because it's not good. It's simply a "you don't win" card, not a "helps me win" card.
Saheeli, sublime artificer. Makes tokens whenever you cast a non-creature spell And can make token copies of either creatures with haste or artifacts. Great for combo, gumming up the board with tokens or getting a suprise lethal. Super good in any deck with izzet colors.
prof: "I hate oko!"
Me: **Goes to buy oko with an evil grin**
I love that Tamiyo Collector of Tales.
Grabs whatever you searched with Long-Term Plans.
Hey guys, remember OATHBREAKER?
YES MIX WITH PLANECHASE, ITS AMAZING
So glad you put Ugin, the ineffable in this list. I also want to mention that he works well in artifact decks like Bosh and especially in eldrazi decks cause they are all colorless. Oh it has color? Devoid classifies it as colorless!
Dang. I've gotta use this planeswalker for commander. Maybe ill win for once lol.
I remember cracking open my very first Fate Reforged pack from the fat pack at release, and Ugin was there. I read him, stared at the art for a bit, said "huh, cool." and didn't think twice about him. I was really just getting back into the game after about a 15 year break, and found some friends from work were really into don't and MagicTG like me. We went online to check card prices after we all got done cracking packs, and were extremely surprised to see Ugin at over $25 at time of release. We went back and reread the card, started looking up strategies, and I try to play him in most decks now.
So this list is basically a few regular planeswalkers with a bunch of disgusting WOTS planeswalkers
It should have been all wots planeswalkers given how most of them are just powerful stax pieces, even though karn can't use his best ability without house rules turning off artifact ramp is just powerful.
@@demarge1065 they are all scary busted
My second highest win rate deck is a 50 walker superfriends deck. I don’t have enough money for most of the popular planeswalkers, so I use ones I open or trade for.
I'm sad that everyone hates Oko. Yeah the card is beyond busted, but as a character he seems so interesting.
Of all the youtube vid I see with sponsors part, yours are the only one I enjoy. =)
"Not 1 but 3 players..."
You need a larger table, dude; one that sits at least 6, and then see how fast planeswalkers get rekt. :D
As a player whos played games of all sizes through the years, I stop having fun when there are more than 5 players, and avoid going to 3.
Thanks Prof, loving the new Game oriented lists like this, reminds me of the earlier Command Zone episodes, but with your crazy spin on things .. Keep up the great work & stay safe. I'm surprised Narset Parter of veils was not on the list, but maybe she was just tooooo naughty! lol ;)
Planeswalkers as commanders makes me sick...
From a lore perspective, I just love how good Ugin the Ineffable is in my Meren eldrazi deck. Ugin put great effort into containing the eldrazi, yet his -3 refuses to destroy them, and he passively helps them spread... anyone else suspicious?
This is great because there are so many that could be debatable additions to this list. I'm partial to Elspeth Sun's Champion and Nicol Bolas of any variety.
Always enjoyed playing Teferi, Master of Time in my graveyard decks, draws cards, fills your yard, phases creatures out & has a game ending ultimate all at instant speed on each players turn.
gotta say. best raycon ad ever. i actualy watched this ad. good stuff :3
I could feel those sodium molecules binding with chloride in that intro
Liliana of the Dark Realms - Swamp each turn, removal/buff if needed and a pretty good ultimate.
Nissa, Vital Force - Ult after 1 turn, which lets your drawn lands replace themself.
Huatli, Radiant Champion - Swarm, draw draw draw draw.......
Koth of the Hammer - Mono red ramp is pretty decent in my opinion.
Those are the ones, I'm missing on this list
I really enjoy Liliana Vess, tutoring in black, even if only twice before having to + her, especially with creatures to protect it, is fantastic.
Honestly "Elspeth, Undaunted Hero" is a gem hidden in a PW Starter Deck. The fact that the Sunlit Hoplite can be pulled from the deck or graveyard, coupled with Sunlit only caring that you have an Elspeth Planeswalker (not just Undaunted), gives you a nice creature to block with. Giving your creatures +X/+X and flying equal to your devotion to white is a nice finisher as well.
3:50 Great list! Really enjoyed the video. I think there could be an argument for Freyalise, Llanowar's Fury over Vivien Reid. Obviously depends on the deck though.
I'm partial to Vivien Monster's Advocate in creature-centric. Gives you a creature that can be flexible on it's abilities, pseudo draw of the top, and a fun creature cascade effect
My favorite Commander deck is definitely my 5-color Superfriends deck :)
Vraska the Unseen
Tamiyo, the Moon Sage
Nissa, Vital Force
Elspeth, Sun's Champion
Sorin, Grim Nemesis
Narset Transcendent
My ramos superfriends deck absolutely loves liliana vess. Being able to tutor for a doubling season for 5 and possibly grabbing a tamiyo after is usually a gamewinner.
I don't play commander as I don't have a friend group that plays magic, but my first thought for this list was Nissa who shakes the world, just such a crazy amount of ramp even if you don't get to ultimate. my third favourite card of all time, favourite being Risen Reef and second Thalia, Heretic Cathar.
I've gotten some pretty serious value out of Nissa of Shadowed Boughs in my Muldrotha deck. Pretty easy to just keep casting her from the graveyard and playing a creature from your yard/hand with +2/+2. Or just untapping Cabal Coffers is pretty great.
Garruk, Caller of Beasts was the first Planeswalker I ever pulled and in commander he never disappoints. Grabbing either every creature out of your top 5 cards is amazing and putting a green creature into play with his minus 3 is amazing for 6 mana.
One of my favorite Planeswalkers is Domri, Chaos Bringer. +1 to give riot to a creature, card selection as a minus, and making a 4/4 on each turn forever as an ultimate is nuts.
Saheeli, Sublime Artificer is my favorite card to play in Commander. If I am playing any manner of Izzet combination, I cram her in the deck. She is easy to cast, has very little "Oh crap!" tendencies but can virtually do anything you need her to. It's unfortunate she doesn't have a + ability, but what she does do is contribute to the party and help set up some pretty neat turns. Honorable mention status at the very least.
Love the list, as a 5 color walker player I 95% would agree with the choices. The 5% would be only 3 edits but idk where to swap lol. Narset, parter of veils, karn, great creator, and teferi, temporal archmage. Narset can shut down draw which is super relevant agenced draw(I'm just saying don't feed the fish!) Karn just outright stops mana rocks which everyone at least has 2 of in edh. The last one, has a -1 that untaps 4 thing in play. Teferi practically pays for hiself and if he sticks can be game ending.
Surprised not to see Sorin Markov here! Setting a player from 40 life to 10, no ifs, ands, or buts about it? Phenomenal!
Dack Fayden....Dack Fade-out....justice for Dack xD
Dack fayden should have been on this list i think.
Even in war of the spark where countless walkers were printed, he was killed in the low and never saw a reprint or new version. His lore is rich, his red//blue cost of 3 is exceptionally good, he draws and discards for anyone, steals artifacts and boy... that emblem is just the icing on the cake
Wow! I was just thinking about how great a video this would be...then it came up on my feed! 😄
many already mentioned both of them in the comments, but despite being 6 CMC both Elspeth, Sun's Champion (protect herself with 3 tokens, selective boardwipe) and Liliana, Dreadhorde General (card draw, removal, a bit of protection with the token) are good ladies in their respective colours.
I would also add Karn, Great Creator for his static ability disabling opponent's artifact, especially in metas with less creatures and more mana rocks around.
Maybe it’s because I like my Selesnya Selvala utility land deck, but Nissa from Kaladesh is a favorite of mine. Makes a blocking land followed by the ult next turn if you can pull it off which is one sided horn of greed, so great early game with undeveloped board states.
And late game helps out by picking up a permanent from the graveyard.
I totally understand why she ain’t there though
I can't wait to search around and build my first ever custom commander deck. I just got into it and my neighbors play games at my place like every other night! Unfortunately I'm playing saheeli the gifted pre built 2018 deck right now and losing almost every night but its still fun. Not sure if ill just upgrade my pre built first or build a new deck first. Lots of fun though regardless!
When I was a kid me and my father lived on top of a neighbour that liked to play really loud Acid jazz or something like that. It sounded like experimental sound torture. My dad got fed up one day and took his badass sound system, tilted his big effing speakers downwards and played some very, very, very loud heavy metal right back at the neighbour. It was silent for a long time after that I remember. 😂
Dude makes this stuff entertaining as hell
I'm very happy with the #1 pick on this video, considering I pulled a borderless version of him in the only prerelease box of M21 I bought.
Honestly, one of my favorite planeswalkers in EDH is Dack Fayden. His plus one gives you some nice card draw, his minus two steals powerful artifact, and his ultimate allows you to steal anything you target.
I usually only pick planeswalkers for there plus and minuses, and rarely there ultimate.
Dacks first two abilities have won me games, and had a perfect home in my dark rose Marchesa deck.
Thanks for another great video! I love the way you build your videos, your excellent insight, and most of all sense of humor.
I'm sure you won't get to read this but I appreciate your work! Thank you!