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  • @TolarianCommunityCollege
    @TolarianCommunityCollege  10 месяцев назад +39

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    • @leonamfernandesdasilva9012
      @leonamfernandesdasilva9012 10 месяцев назад +2

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    • @andrewfoster8100
      @andrewfoster8100 10 месяцев назад +2

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    • @AstraGaming-is1gd
      @AstraGaming-is1gd 10 месяцев назад

      What an amazing ad!

    • @WingLMui
      @WingLMui 10 месяцев назад

      same! @@andrewfoster8100

    • @AC3handle
      @AC3handle 10 месяцев назад

      which one is the link to the planes walkers plaing plainswakers vid

  • @Agis5512
    @Agis5512 10 месяцев назад +2103

    Another big downside to Chandra Ablaze's -2 is that it specifies "His or Her" hand. So it wont even rob that nonbinary blue player of their twenty card hand.

    • @erik556
      @erik556 10 месяцев назад +62

      😂 ded

    • @jacobd1984
      @jacobd1984 10 месяцев назад +302

      Thank god they eventually nerfed the nonbinary players. For years you couldn’t even target them!

    • @piotrwillow6440
      @piotrwillow6440 10 месяцев назад +18

      based 😂

    • @musicman7943
      @musicman7943 10 месяцев назад +5

      😂😂😂😂

    • @alonemarrow50
      @alonemarrow50 10 месяцев назад +18

      Take my like, you've earned it.

  • @nicolascasime9248
    @nicolascasime9248 10 месяцев назад +7

    Saw the title and thought.... "Well, this video has been done hundreds of times, its going to be tibalt and every planeswalker deck planeswalker"
    First thing prof says: Not including either tibalt and those planeswalker decks thingy.
    Now you got my attention :)

  • @InsomniacsAnonymous36
    @InsomniacsAnonymous36 10 месяцев назад +186

    My toxic trait is thinking I could find a way to make these guys both work, and be fun to play.

    • @therealax6
      @therealax6 10 месяцев назад +7

      Some more than others. Chandra would be fine at a different mana cost (1RR, or maybe 3R?), so I'm pretty sure it's possible to make that one work. Gideon, on the other hand, is basically dead unless you find a way to make his 0 useful.

    • @cuckoophendula8211
      @cuckoophendula8211 10 месяцев назад +3

      I'm a bit guilty of this too. I remember pulling that Chandra back in the day thinking of how to make her work despite it being a high costed mono-red card.

    • @leandroteixeira33
      @leandroteixeira33 10 месяцев назад

      @@therealax6
      Gideon would be fine as the wincon on a lock deck. You let them play all creatures they want and use something like Ensnaring Bridge or similar to prevent them from attacking, then you +1 until doing a -15 followed by a 0 lethal (and then pray for no Path to Exile).

    • @thrashed2piecesYT
      @thrashed2piecesYT 10 месяцев назад +3

      I actually think Huatli would easily get you a dub if she’s timed right with a go wide strategy and Doubling Season.

    • @baronluke8065
      @baronluke8065 10 месяцев назад

      I agree with all of them except Gideon, while you probably could make a decent deck I can not forgive him destroying all lands, I want my god damned lands.

  • @minty1249
    @minty1249 10 месяцев назад +105

    I solemnly ask that there be a "top 5 planeswalker's" video to rival this stupendous piece of cinematography.

    • @Uefeti
      @Uefeti 10 месяцев назад +3

      It’s a bit harder tho
      Bad planeswalkers are bad everywhere
      Good ones might depend on a format
      Wren&Six are busted in modern, and yet very weak in Edh

    • @iankane3732
      @iankane3732 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@Uefetiwell we certainly know who #1 would be tho, oko stands alone.

    • @iankane3732
      @iankane3732 10 месяцев назад

      I think my 5 would be oko, minsc and boo, wrenn and six, teferi time raveler and karn, the great creator.

    • @Uefeti
      @Uefeti 10 месяцев назад

      @@iankane3732
      I think Oko is 100% in Top-5, but there are some great options what even see active CEDH play.
      Like Karn, the Great Creator, Tyvar Jubilar Brawler, Teferi, Time Reveler.
      Oko see’s Ocasional play, but I’m not sure if he’s better than those ones.

    • @Uefeti
      @Uefeti 10 месяцев назад

      @@iankane3732
      That’s a Good List tho!

  • @LucyBean42
    @LucyBean42 10 месяцев назад +340

    I made a Chandra tribal deck with all 20 Chandra walkers in it, even the bad ones and the uncommon. Flavor, hooooo!

    • @wolfdwarf
      @wolfdwarf 10 месяцев назад +7

      I also made a commander with her flipper, share list?

    • @24hoursinthelife
      @24hoursinthelife 10 месяцев назад +6

      I did this with Ajani! Lots of fun.

    • @PedroFigs
      @PedroFigs 10 месяцев назад +11

      I love Chandra and collect all cards that mention/reference her, I just need to put together the cards and make a commander themed deck.

    • @danielbretado7660
      @danielbretado7660 10 месяцев назад +2

      Im proud of mine. As long as there is no enchantments, it does ok

    • @kristiandahl1310
      @kristiandahl1310 10 месяцев назад +3

      Hey same here. Let all 5 of us rejoice in our Chandra decks

  • @gkiyo
    @gkiyo 10 месяцев назад +241

    Lol I made that exact mistake reading the first Jace ability, did a double take. "Wait, you don't *get* the card??"

    • @katesperinck1401
      @katesperinck1401 10 месяцев назад +1

      It's still a better version of surveil and uptick abilities are typically much weaker than the minus ones, and his minus 3 is disgustingly good. Removal for any nonland permanent while bypassing indestructible is amazing. The prof has never played against blue/white control decks it seems like.

    • @uandubh5087
      @uandubh5087 10 месяцев назад +17

      @@katesperinck1401 Surveil does the same thing but allows you to keep the cards on top instead of having to throw one in the bin, so it's clearly better than Jace's +1. I guess you meant it's a better version of scry? Maybe, but I'm not so sure about that either. Not having the option of leaving the top as is or getting rid of both cards is pretty limiting.

    • @therealax6
      @therealax6 10 месяцев назад +9

      @@katesperinck1401 Surveil 2 is a strict upgrade from that ability, although it's very similar in spirit.

    • @katesperinck1401
      @katesperinck1401 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@uandubh5087 Jace's +1 allows you to dig 2 cards into your library which is better than scry 1 or surveil 1. The worst case scenario only sounds bad but it's still good to have 2 good choices and keep the best, or 2 bad choices and discard the worst and you can make a better informed decision. It's not the most amazing ability but I'd still give the planeswalker a passing grade and probably would pick it in a limited environment unlike the other walkers on the list which are objectively terrible.

    • @katesperinck1401
      @katesperinck1401 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@therealax6 surveil 2 is definitely an upgrade but I'd prefer it over surveil 1. Not amazing but still worthwhile, the card is just a more fair version of Teferi time raveler.

  • @tertmemelur1880
    @tertmemelur1880 10 месяцев назад +145

    ngl the selesnya Huatli actually does look fun in a token commander deck, on the lower power side where people don't close out games fast enough you can easily ult her and get crazy value !

    • @deanjones3163
      @deanjones3163 10 месяцев назад +44

      I run her in my token deck. She is a game winner 100%

    • @tertmemelur1880
      @tertmemelur1880 10 месяцев назад

      @@deanjones3163 let's go ! gonna try her next time I play my Maja deck

    • @tilleruez6869
      @tilleruez6869 10 месяцев назад +45

      Single uptick to reach the bonkers ultimate. I really don't unterstand what she's doing here

    • @tertmemelur1880
      @tertmemelur1880 10 месяцев назад +8

      @@tilleruez6869 in regular 60 cards she's very trash tbf

    • @MR-hk2qu
      @MR-hk2qu 10 месяцев назад +9

      Huatli pulls it's weigth in my Jetmir Deck
      i can also see her in a Cadira, Caller of the Small Deck as Huatli+Cadira work realy well together
      Once you Ult Huatli, everytime Cadira attacks you get a lot of dard draw and the Emblem is a may-trigger, meaning you don't draw yourself to death

  • @BigWoobiez
    @BigWoobiez 10 месяцев назад +260

    Shoutout to planeswalker party deck, making the worst of the worst all come together in a single space🎉🎉🎉

    • @ArticWolfv
      @ArticWolfv 10 месяцев назад +20

      even worse, on purpose by WotC

    • @heecks9375
      @heecks9375 10 месяцев назад

      Peoples paid for commander master at a ''premimum price'' shame.

    • @registereduser
      @registereduser 10 месяцев назад

      @@ArticWolfvfor a premium price!

    • @MopeyN
      @MopeyN 10 месяцев назад +7

      Yet, 20 changed cards and the deck steals games in our group. It's OK.

    • @Imanmagnet00
      @Imanmagnet00 10 месяцев назад +10

      Something about that precon called to me when it was released, it seemed so awful I just wanted to figure out what to do with it. Long story short I slowly went about changing the lousy walkers for better ones, 6 Teferis later and other such nonsense the deck makes me archenemy at my table by turn 4 and it takes multiple combined efforts to slow me down. The deck still has a lot of weaknesses but it is satisfying as all hell to win with it in spite of it being the worst of the master set.

  • @Linkdude74
    @Linkdude74 10 месяцев назад +71

    Me, holding my white border Tibalt I un-ironically play in Asmoranomardicadaistinaculdacar: I just think he's neat

    • @robmitchell3039
      @robmitchell3039 10 месяцев назад +6

      I run him in one commander deck. It's an original Niv-Mizzet, so any card draw is useful, and the game plan doesn't really care what cards are in hand, so the random discard isn't an issue. And people kind of ignore it, and the ultimate is a potential game winner.

    • @Linkdude74
      @Linkdude74 10 месяцев назад +6

      @robmitchell3039 I just wanted a spot for the white border one xD. I bought the secret lair that had him and storm crow and such so I want to make sure I use them. He just happens to do things that Asmoranomardicadaistinaculdacar wants to do and you're right, a lot of people ignore him and then get beat out by the ult. Sometimes being bad let's you just fly under the radar.

    • @tk421eatmyshorts
      @tk421eatmyshorts 10 месяцев назад +4

      I have him in a RGW self discard deck. I generally don’t care what I’m discarding

    • @ENCHANTMEN_
      @ENCHANTMEN_ 5 месяцев назад

      Magic the gathering light mode 🤢

    • @ENCHANTMEN_
      @ENCHANTMEN_ 5 месяцев назад

      Magic the gathering light mode 🤢

  • @mikotagayuna8494
    @mikotagayuna8494 10 месяцев назад +40

    Bad as he is, Karn can at least be some nice redundancy for your win con in any Commander deck trying to combo off with infinite mana. Nobody will take Karn seriously until he's suddenly fetching you that Walking Ballista or X spell to win you the game.

    • @kevinwestermann1001
      @kevinwestermann1001 10 месяцев назад +7

      I am running him in my Urza, High Lord Artificer "Big Blue" themed deck. Mainly because I run all 6 Karns, but - as you say - he is an infinite mana sink.

    • @Volkbrecht
      @Volkbrecht 10 месяцев назад +2

      Plus, any walker with a reasonable + ability is a second face you can throw out as a punching bag to distract from your life total. And being colorless, he slots in everywhere...

    • @LionBoy383
      @LionBoy383 10 месяцев назад +1

      I run that Karn in my colorless artifact commander deck.

    • @grifffourn8200
      @grifffourn8200 10 месяцев назад +2

      It frustrates me when people say that this Karn is bad because he's just objectively good in artifact combo decks in GAS and CanLander (and commander if they'd unban paradox engine 😂). Like I understand those are niche formats, but he's good in specific strategies. He actually does relevant things, creates mana or is just a tutor, or WINS THE GAME in those style of decks.

    • @Tera_GX
      @Tera_GX 4 месяца назад

      That's precisely why this Karn is good in commander. He contributes, but he isn't a bullseye for the whole table.

  • @Bingcenzo
    @Bingcenzo 10 месяцев назад +26

    I know someone who started collecting Tybalts upon release because "there's no way a planeswalker this cheap will be bad forever".😂

    • @davidlundquist1979
      @davidlundquist1979 10 месяцев назад +1

      Heck, I preordered a playset of Kytheon, Hero of Akros because "He's a one mana planeswalker!" Except, the vast majority of the time, you'll need to use his three mana ability to keep him alive to be flipped, so really, he's a four mana planeswalker. And if you don't need to use that three mana ability, you were already going to win that game without flipping him. Still, his floor is being Savannah Lions until you're able to transform him, which makes him way better than Tibalt.

    • @dj20benn
      @dj20benn 9 месяцев назад +1

      I have 348 of Tibalt the fiend blooded that I have been collecting since release 😅

    • @Bingcenzo
      @Bingcenzo 7 месяцев назад

      @@dj20benn Do you happen to be in Tampa?👀

    • @dj20benn
      @dj20benn 7 месяцев назад

      @@Bingcenzo nope

    • @justahumblelittleoshawott7972
      @justahumblelittleoshawott7972 5 месяцев назад

      I mean, you can get a Jeska’s Will and play that broken Oathbreaker deck

  • @MrABK108
    @MrABK108 10 месяцев назад +30

    I run Huatli in my Jedit Ojanen, Mercenary deck.
    I run lots of cheap-ish legends, and each creates a 2/2 cat with forestwalk.
    Huatli provides card draw.

    • @Shimatzu95
      @Shimatzu95 10 месяцев назад

      This huatli was always one of the more interesting planeswalkers to me, just because of how fast she can ulgain loyality, the only real competitor in gaining loyality to this decree is one of the gideons. Also if you can make it happen both of these are funny with war of the sparks nicol bolas

    • @jadegrace1312
      @jadegrace1312 10 месяцев назад

      yeah huatli is fine in lower power commander tbh

    • @eewweeppkk
      @eewweeppkk 8 месяцев назад

      @@Shimatzu95 Grist is pretty good at gaining loyalty, you have to be a little lucky but the loyalty gain also does something so there's a reason to get it, plus its very easy to stack your library and make them gain a very large amount of loyalty very quickly.

  • @ikhcabat
    @ikhcabat 10 месяцев назад +112

    Huatli is in my Selesnya Token deck. Getting free card draw with my tokens is tasty

    • @chasebootz
      @chasebootz 10 месяцев назад +24

      Yea I heard him say Huatli and was like, what? That card is nuts as an oathbreaker and also quite good in just about every token list ever in her colors

    • @paulszki
      @paulszki 10 месяцев назад

      @@chasebootz I think huatli can possibly be strong in weaker play groups, where games tend to go long.
      Like, the only semi-useful ability of hers is the sorcery speed +x/+x but there are other cards that do this better and maybe are even creatures themselves. There are so many good cards with the text "equal to tje number of creatures you control" that can easily outpace and outvalue huatli. Check on scryfall.
      The other two loyalty-abilities are really just one ability, because you only the first one, to be able to MAYBE activate the ultimate ability next turn.
      Spending 4 mana and having to wait until your next turn, IF you have at least 5 creatures in play AND your opponent couldn't damage huatlie in anyway, to THEN let you draw cards for putting MORE creatures into play... in green is just ... not very efficient.
      If you have 5+ creatures in play... just go ahead and kill your opponent with Overrun (+3/+3 and trample to all creatures) if you want to draw cards for four mana, just play Harmonize (2GG - Draw 3 cards), you didn't have to wait a full turn, you don't need 5 creatures in play to unlock some an ultimate.

    • @1krani
      @1krani 10 месяцев назад +2

      Even more so since they made a Tendershoot Dryad for white color.

    • @EdwardChen-c4z
      @EdwardChen-c4z 10 месяцев назад +3

      Same! She’s a powerhouse whenever I draw her in my Emmara brawl deck.

    • @WiLDRAGE777
      @WiLDRAGE777 10 месяцев назад +7

      Same reaction. But to be fair, token decks are probably the only place she has in the game.

  • @ttocsthefurnace
    @ttocsthefurnace 10 месяцев назад +26

    Tibalt was my first pulled planeswalker and still have my copy in a binder. To this day he still has a soft spot in my heart as one of my favorite cards. One day I will make him good I swear! One day.

    • @romanninja777
      @romanninja777 2 месяца назад

      Can someone explain to me why Tibalt is so bad? I know I'm fairly new to Magic but aside from his low loyalty and being vulnerable for 4 turns to use his ultimate, drawing a card and discarding a card can be a really good strat. His second ability kinda sucks but it seems like a gamble on whether it'd be useful or not.
      That ultimate seems pretty sick too, just don't lose him for 4 turns, counter spells, block, and have cards in your deck to draw back discards? Seems simple to me.
      Either hes really not that bad, or these are opinions from professional players thay are on such a level of complexity I can't even comprehend it yet.

    • @sparkymularkey6970
      @sparkymularkey6970 2 дня назад

      Same here! Back when I first started learning to play Magic, during my very first draft, I opened a Tibalt and I was so excited to get a Planeswalker that I picked him, having no idea just how terrible he is. I still love that card.

  • @k9o3w
    @k9o3w 11 дней назад +1

    Gatecrash gideon was a great sideboard counter to the obnoxious turbofog maze's end decks that saw a lot of play in that standard rotation. Used to love putting that in game two and watching them scramble because they had no answers for it usually. It just slowly ticked up until I deleted their lands and made them scoop.

  • @sanaru02
    @sanaru02 10 месяцев назад +12

    Mandatory time for me to bring up the pre-release where I saw a guy trade a tibalt for a cookie.

  • @Kroxti
    @Kroxti 10 месяцев назад +1

    I remember when tibalt was getting a VS deck ad getting really excited about it. Finally we were going to see how WotC thought the card should work and what shell… I ended up disappointed.

  • @HexiiSky
    @HexiiSky 10 месяцев назад +1

    the 2 jace cards at the start were my first single buys. still remember finding the mind sculptor at my local card shop.

  • @ArclinusCastoral
    @ArclinusCastoral 10 месяцев назад +19

    I never see Ellywick Tumblestrum on any of these kinds of lists whom I've never even seen in a deck.

    • @jojodelacroix
      @jojodelacroix 10 месяцев назад +3

      Very true. She deserves a shoutout. I wonder if folks forget or are being sticklers because shes not really a planeswalker lore wise.

    • @Snow_Fire_Flame
      @Snow_Fire_Flame 10 месяцев назад

      Yeah, she's pretty dire, although this isn't entirely her fault. If OG Venture into the Dungeon was a stronger mechanic, then maybe, but when they buffed it later with the Undercity / Initiative, it wasn't backward compatible.

    • @ArclinusCastoral
      @ArclinusCastoral 10 месяцев назад

      @@Snow_Fire_Flame Hard agree, dungeon was definitely an underpowered, seemingly draft-balanced mechanic.

  • @jlaw131985
    @jlaw131985 10 месяцев назад +5

    The one good thing about Hualti and Gideon’s ability to add counters based on number of creatures is that it actually would get doubled by doubling season effects, since it’s not a cost

  • @michaelgriffith7033
    @michaelgriffith7033 10 месяцев назад +136

    I left Magic in 2000 and came back about a year ago.
    "Commander...?'
    "Planeswalkers...?"
    Lots to get used to!

    • @DylanHilliard1
      @DylanHilliard1 10 месяцев назад +10

      Ohh boy! You have a mountain to learn! It's fine, a lot of new mechanics, a couple of new card types, and whole boat load of new art. You will love relearning it.

    • @_underscore_9271
      @_underscore_9271 10 месяцев назад +6

      Wait until you hear about battles

    • @michaelgriffith7033
      @michaelgriffith7033 10 месяцев назад +8

      @@DylanHilliard1 play on Arena a lot and have done the last two pre releases. Fun so far!
      Thanks and have a great weekend!

    • @michaelgriffith7033
      @michaelgriffith7033 10 месяцев назад

      @@_underscore_9271 those and adventures I am good on. On Arena I use battles in a red deck to pretty good effect.

    • @charlessandison5740
      @charlessandison5740 10 месяцев назад +4

      I'd have a look at Commander, it's very casual and due to only letting a single copy of each card (except the ones you can have more than 1), you learn a lot of cards

  • @Takermania70
    @Takermania70 10 месяцев назад +1

    I definitely played Jace's +1 as "Put the other card into your hand". It was real awkward when my friend pointed out it didn't work like that

  • @austintomlinson7863
    @austintomlinson7863 10 месяцев назад +6

    Gonna defend Huatli here real quick. It's the only one I disagree with.
    Huatli's emblem is NOT Glimpse of Nature. The key point here that the Prof completely wiffed on is the fact that Huatli's emblem (and uptick as well notably) counts TOKEN creatures. Almost every other "creature enters, draw card" effect specifically carves out token creatures except for Huatli's emblem. Huatli's emblem, unlike most of the effects as well, is OPTIONAL card draw, so you have significantly less risk of simply decking yourself off the value.
    You say not to evaluate a plainswalker by it's ultimate, but there are several plainswalkers (including this Huatli) where they have so much loyalty generation that it seems unfair not to account for an ultimate within the power level. There are games where I've ulted Huatli multiple times in a single game.
    Huatli is one of the few plainswalkers that shine in commander, as she is one of the few that can generate such a large amount of loyalty that it is unrealistic to even try to kill her.
    There is a reason that Huatli (at ~$20) quadruples the price of the second most expensive plainswalker on this list, which is weirdly Chandra Ablaze (~5).

  • @_underscore_9271
    @_underscore_9271 10 месяцев назад +26

    0:56 Hey now, "Gideon the Oathsworn" from one of those decks won me an oathbreaker tournament once

  • @shadowfrost__
    @shadowfrost__ 10 месяцев назад +15

    While terrible on her own, Chandra Ablaze's -2 ability is actually insane if you have a Waste Not on board. You could potentially dump a bunch of 2/2 zombies on the field, create a bunch of black mana to cast the at minimum 3 cards you draw, and/or draw a ton of cards. Not to mention clearing out Josh Lee Kwai's full grip and leaving him with 3 cards in hand.

    • @jonathanstead5135
      @jonathanstead5135 10 месяцев назад +1

      I like nekusar and Bralin/Shalazaz ( Maui and skyshark ) style decks and Chandra ablaze works wonders in them

    • @TheZeratulsan
      @TheZeratulsan 10 месяцев назад +1

      Just cutting one or more opponents hand down in size is somewhat decent, but she really suffers from being overly cautiously designed and 2mv too high.

    • @Volkbrecht
      @Volkbrecht 10 месяцев назад +1

      She is a bit expensive, but that's really her only problem. She enables Madness, you'll usually use her -2 asymmetrically (and again, for Madness, if possible), and her ulti is desastrous enough to keep her pulling punches that would otherwise go to your face.

    • @jonathanstead5135
      @jonathanstead5135 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@Volkbrecht I think Prof. had to many bad experiences against her. There are worst that fit the criteria in the video.

    • @shadowfrost__
      @shadowfrost__ 10 месяцев назад

      @@Volkbrecht yeah I always evaluate from the commander side of things, so 6 mana is about where I start saying is this worth it, and if I am playing madness or discard for value she is a definite include. She is basically two Wheel of Fortunes only draw 3 not 7.

  • @christopherprementine5287
    @christopherprementine5287 10 месяцев назад +48

    Gerrard: "But they don't do anything!"
    Hanna: "No- they do nothing."

    • @registereduser
      @registereduser 10 месяцев назад +1

      I understood that reference.

    • @javierpatag3609
      @javierpatag3609 10 месяцев назад +1

      You are legend for quoting that flavor text.

  • @sandwichboy1268
    @sandwichboy1268 10 месяцев назад +3

    You know, it's nice knowing that most of the worst planeswalkers were just design experiments that got improved upon later

  • @bubba21135
    @bubba21135 10 месяцев назад +1

    *grasps my Gideon, COJ close to my heart* “shhhhhh, it’s ok. The video’s over, he can’t hurt you anymore.

    • @sparkymularkey6970
      @sparkymularkey6970 2 дня назад

      I love that card! 🤣 I didn't even realize people didn't like it.

  • @drwgordon
    @drwgordon 10 месяцев назад +2

    I don’t know why but I like watching the prof talk about negative things. Worst sleeve to worst pw. Nice vid

  • @jean-philippedoyon9904
    @jean-philippedoyon9904 4 месяца назад +2

    Gideon was my first Plainswalker i got in a booster deck...god did i tried to make him work and never could, being blind by the fact he was a Plainswalker and therefore i believe he was automatically good...At least my next Plainswalker were Domri who was broken and Elsphet which ruled control white, blue and black decks !! Good times !!

  • @EmmaTeckenbrock
    @EmmaTeckenbrock 10 месяцев назад +10

    C. Ablaze saw competitive play for a few months in Standard with Big Red & RDW, as a 1 to 2 of main/sideboard. That -2 against control was basically: Draw 3, Opponent Discards 4.
    If it wasn't for the fact Jund was still the best deck at the time and Caw Blade was on the horizon, it might have gotten some more recognition.
    There's just not much LGS and Minor Tournament data online from that era of standard.

    • @therealax6
      @therealax6 10 месяцев назад +4

      That's what I was thinking: you discard your probably empty hand and draw 3, while your control opponent discards their hand full of counterspells and removal and draws 3. It's one of those effects that looks symmetrical, but really isn't.

    • @iankane3732
      @iankane3732 10 месяцев назад

      ​​​@@therealax6yeah how do you figure you are going to resolve a 6 mana planeswalker against someone with a hand full of counterspells lmao. This use case honestly doesn't make a whole lot of sense if you really think about it.

    • @iankane3732
      @iankane3732 10 месяцев назад

      Like as RDW you want to try and go underneath the control deck and and kill them asap, trying to out-grind a control deck with RDW is a fool's errand..

  • @DracoX-hz3tu
    @DracoX-hz3tu 10 месяцев назад +5

    Gotta disagree with huatli for commander reasons. She generally takes 1 turn to reach the ultimate, and then the card draw engine is essentially a far better beast whisperer that can't be removed (since its an emblem). You mentioned the original chandra, and that would likely be my replacement for huatli, OG chandra is essentially just a slow, terrible board wipe if you can even get to her ultimate

  • @michaelgriffith7033
    @michaelgriffith7033 10 месяцев назад +6

    The art on the Chandra card is incredible! But, alas...

  • @HypogeanSupremacy
    @HypogeanSupremacy 10 месяцев назад +9

    I'm not gonna lie Hautli on the second slot is decent actually alright, not the most impactful right away but she's good. I would have put other planeswalkers here but that's just me being biased since I've always have a really good Huatli whenever I play her obviously you need set up but in decks that have that strategy won't discount her.

  • @narvplusextra
    @narvplusextra 8 месяцев назад +2

    I'm baffled by the Huatli take, like that is literally the best Huatli even when compared to other Huatli's I think he underestimates how often you can get into big stalemate fights with big boards and how effective she is at helping you win those fights. I mean her minus 1 is literally a game winner for 4 if you already have the board set up and have trample.

  • @newbe1o1
    @newbe1o1 10 месяцев назад +4

    VALIDATION!!!!! When Jace, Living Guildpact was spoiled, I was told he was broken. Like people tried to convince me that he was a playable card, because “you got to see two cards! And throw that flashback card into the graveyard!” Terrible card and I’m so glad I never played him.

    • @registereduser
      @registereduser 10 месяцев назад +1

      That sounds like every preview season I ever paid attention to, though.

  • @Rogue_07
    @Rogue_07 10 месяцев назад +2

    I'm going to disagree with your analysis of Huatli- the key is that she doesn't say "nontoken". She'll get to her ultimate with a cast+flashback of Lingering Souls, for example, and if you get her ultimate, that same spell will draw 4.
    I'm not saying she's good, she's not, but in a dedicated tokens deck it's not the worst decision.

  • @ColorfulHelices
    @ColorfulHelices 10 месяцев назад +13

    Ahhh Number 4 hurts lol.
    Had her in Gishath for a long time, get a lot of Loyalty, downtick to kill with a Second Gishath attack, and make sure Gishath also kept my hand filled for late interaction.
    she's definitely my favorite lady in Magic.
    Sadly i did bite a bullet and took her out eventually.

  • @MechAleXtreme
    @MechAleXtreme 10 месяцев назад +5

    Have you ever enchanted a Gideon, Champion of Justice with Teferi's Talent?
    Turns into a big indestructible creature whenever it's attacked, and gain loyalty whenever it isn't.

  • @docseamonster3491
    @docseamonster3491 10 месяцев назад +7

    I like that karn in my saheeli the gifted deck. Getting a free mana rock every turn is nothing to sneeze at.

  • @thedanath
    @thedanath 10 месяцев назад +10

    I use Karn Living Legacy in my Urzas Battlethopter deck and it does very well for me. Granted i have ways of generating a lot of mana so i can pump 5-10 mana into the -1 and still have mana left over to cast whatever i get.

    • @docseamonster3491
      @docseamonster3491 10 месяцев назад

      I have that karn in my saheeli deck.

    • @iankane3732
      @iankane3732 10 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah and with infinite mana he can win you the game by looking at your whole deck and grabbing whatever combo piece you need to win. He's definitely not useless just extremely niche in his use cases.

  • @samueltom4044
    @samueltom4044 10 месяцев назад +1

    Gideon CoJ is my favourite planeswalker card of all time, and my favourite card overall, Theros’ Hundred-Handed One, is one of his best friends. I ran them both in my first ever commander deck, it was Avacyn, Guardian Angel and it was an amazing time.

  • @drago-xo8st
    @drago-xo8st 10 месяцев назад +3

    Many magic the gathering players are asking why wizards won't translate anymore their products to Portuguese.
    Their player base in Brazil will only decline with this poor decision.
    WotC deserves to be confrotated with the nudes of Vampeta.
    They deserve the Vampetaço.

  • @caveira2099
    @caveira2099 10 месяцев назад +3

    @TolarianCommunityCollege - Prof, would you be able to comment on the recent announcement of WoTC discontinuing translated cards to Portuguese (and other languages)? What is your view? For us, those news are another devastating round from them. Although we have a thriving community, top players all around the game’s history, some facts include that MTG has always been more expensive here; Wizards closed their regional office; now no translations mean zero means for our LGS to attract newcomers.

  • @SDREHXC
    @SDREHXC 10 месяцев назад +2

    As someone who only dabbles in magic occasionally I think planeswalkers as a mechanic is some of the coolest stuff in TCGs.
    The “super friends” or whatever style decks are always the ones I gravitate towards the most when I play.

  • @nicolascasime9248
    @nicolascasime9248 10 месяцев назад +2

    Wow! Huatli? I run her in a token commander deck, and its quite awesome! Of course, its quite a niche case, but its awesome. You play it with 5 or 6 token creatures, use the +1, gets to ult range, and your tokens will probably help her survive one turn. Can also be played as a finisher. I think that the floor with this planeswalker is really low, but also the ceiling is extremely high

    • @Dan-mz3we
      @Dan-mz3we 3 месяца назад +2

      Agreed. I have her in a rabbit/token tribal commander deck and she’s a lot of fun to play. Can get crazy high loyalty turn one and then get you a bunch of cards turn 2

  • @animegx45
    @animegx45 10 месяцев назад +1

    My main deck for commander is a Nicol Bolas themed super friend deck (more of a legion of doom).
    So for me, this was a fun video. Proud that none of the 5 are in my deck.

  • @ReagentGray
    @ReagentGray 10 месяцев назад +7

    Honestly, that Chandra seems like she'd go crazy in a madness deck. Discarding is just an upside there

    • @martl8615
      @martl8615 10 месяцев назад

      Most madness effects still cost mana.

    • @romanninja777
      @romanninja777 2 месяца назад

      So what. It belongs in mono red anyways, why care about the mana cost?

  • @Robshi
    @Robshi 10 месяцев назад +4

    I'm a bit surprised Nissa Revane isn't on this list. Huatli can be useful in a Commander token strategy. Nissa was made for Elves, and you'd likely rather run any actual elf card in place of her.

    • @Rizso1
      @Rizso1 10 месяцев назад

      she won a scg tournament!

  • @VraskaTheScene
    @VraskaTheScene 10 месяцев назад +4

    I love you professor!!!! Elspeth is a planeswalker that to me is a kill on sight, espy because I always run Elspeth when I can

  • @rajamicitrenti1374
    @rajamicitrenti1374 10 месяцев назад +1

    Back when Chandra Ablaze was new, I had a lit of fun with her in Standard on MTGO. Made a whole Naya superfriends deck that was basically ramp and board wipes, + Elspeth and Garruk for board position, all building to casting 1 or 2 Violent Ultimatums and then recasting them with Chandra's ult to blow up the opponent's mana base and whatever else I had spare targets for.

  • @rajamicitrenti1374
    @rajamicitrenti1374 10 месяцев назад +2

    One I was expecting to be on here but isn't: Venser the Sojourner. I loved playing decks built around janky mini-combos with him, but he is such a "win harder" commander, and he doesn't even really have a cohesive identity to build a winning strategy around. His +2 is about rebuying ETBs, but his -1 is for swinging in big with small creatures? And his Ult is strong but nowhere close to immediately backbreaking like pretty much every Planeswalker of the time was.

  • @pokeslim
    @pokeslim 9 месяцев назад +1

    Huatli seems like a pretty decent include in a deck that can spam tokens out. Still probably not that great, but it is definitely at least better than Jace.

  • @caseywilliams4145
    @caseywilliams4145 10 месяцев назад +31

    Come on Prof you know you remember when they weren't a fixture of magic sometimes I kind of miss those days

    • @colinhobbs7265
      @colinhobbs7265 10 месяцев назад +1

      They've only been printing one a set recently and I've been liking it, especially in limited. They are nice but I was able to beat someone who had a Kaeya on board for 8 turns just a couple days ago.

    • @thesybarite
      @thesybarite 10 месяцев назад +1

      I always miss those days

  • @Rukalin
    @Rukalin 10 месяцев назад +4

    I'm gonna let you in on a secret with Huatli here, Prof: token decks. She's amazing in my Rhys-deck.

  • @__-be1gk
    @__-be1gk 10 месяцев назад +2

    The worst planeswalkers are the ones that exist after the mending

  • @MTGNate
    @MTGNate 10 месяцев назад +4

    Huatli is really nice in commander, strictly because her emblem works with token generation unlike mosy other card advantage cards. Rite of Harmony is usually a better choice now, though.

  • @Ohkapi
    @Ohkapi 10 месяцев назад +1

    the sponsor ad in this video is so awesome prof! Thanks❤

  • @mascrath
    @mascrath 10 месяцев назад +4

    Chandra Ablaze worked decently well in my Rakdos Discard deck

  • @trident042
    @trident042 10 месяцев назад

    Very glad I backed my Cubeamajig, I actually happened to have just bought all my remaining cube cards and am working on sleeving filling up the Podamajigs today!

  • @shaedeymamlas5496
    @shaedeymamlas5496 10 месяцев назад +3

    Now, this Gideon is awful. But sometimes in low-mid power commander people just kinda make 40+ (or 4 thousand+) token creatures without haste, in a “board wipe or I win” situation. Pretty sure him+chain veil would be pretty sick in that situation, gain 4000+ loyalty and wipe the board, keeping a ton of loyalty for further turns

    • @PassGoGames
      @PassGoGames 10 месяцев назад +1

      He can gain the 4000 loyalty counters the turn you play him, but you need another card to wipe out those creatures before your opponent's turn or they'll just attack and kill you for sure.

    • @shaedeymamlas5496
      @shaedeymamlas5496 10 месяцев назад +4

      @@PassGoGames that’s why I mentioned chain veil, allows him to activate a loyalty ability twice per turn (and is a card you might already be playing in super friends/planeswalker decks)

  • @LeifTheRogue
    @LeifTheRogue 10 месяцев назад +2

    Little did we know, this entire video was made since he was the only one without a cosplay in the planeswalker video

    • @iankane3732
      @iankane3732 10 месяцев назад

      Wym? He's clearly cosplaying Urza in that video lol.

  • @jushthehermit
    @jushthehermit Месяц назад +1

    My favorite thing about playing Tybalt is I get to roll my dice!
    But yeah, he's basically a wasted slot. -a 'distraction', if you will.

  • @Squatch_needs_no_heroes
    @Squatch_needs_no_heroes 10 месяцев назад

  • @Renan-n3y
    @Renan-n3y 10 месяцев назад +2

    Professor, make a video commenting on the end of translation support to many languages, such as portuguese and chinese. Future cards won't be available in these languages anymore.

  • @jonathanstead5135
    @jonathanstead5135 10 месяцев назад +1

    chandra ablaze is better than most on this list. Given the rest of the criteria, I'd say ob nixilis of the black oath is worst. If that doesn't count, then the other criteria given, then Nissa Revane fits. Gets a mediocre creature from your deck, got to have a bunch of creatures for her second +1 and her ult dumps all the elves in your deck on the field. This sounds fantastic but if she survives 5 turns to get there, then you were already ahead.

  • @imawesomeuknowit1
    @imawesomeuknowit1 10 месяцев назад

    Glad to see so many comments supporting Huatli, I personally built a Oathbreaker deck with Huatli which is a format I am sure this list doesn't consider, but could easily shine in a token based deck in other formats. Can be protected with things like Teferi's protection and Clever Concealment, which are just good cards for protection anyway. I also like to put a huge number of loyalty counters and then equip Huatli with Luxior, Giada's gift and swing for big damage.

  • @lotoftoast
    @lotoftoast 10 месяцев назад +1

    when prof introduced number 2 it made me very nostalgic for some of the very first videos he made as the voice sounded the same as he sounded 10 years ago

  • @riansantos7284
    @riansantos7284 10 месяцев назад +3

    Please, talk about Wizards killing Magic in Brazil!

  • @brettruest1210
    @brettruest1210 10 месяцев назад +1

    I used to win so many Standard games with Gideon Champion of Justice back during RTR/Theros standard. I ran him as a one of in a blue white control deck built around Sphere of Safety with Dictate of Kruphix being my main win condition. My opponents would just dump creatures onto the board that they couldn't attack with just because they didn't want to discard them. A single uptick followed by a Supreme Verdict usually got me there

  • @maskofice9432
    @maskofice9432 8 месяцев назад +1

    OG Tibalt was actually my first Planeswalker...... Great start to my collection

  • @mpapalionakis7816
    @mpapalionakis7816 9 месяцев назад +1

    Huatli is a commander planeswalker. Having multiple turns of creating 5+ creatures a turn without winning the game wirh them is both highly possible and likely to happen almost every game. In any other format I understand the hate she gets, but in any token commander deck, she's p much a guaranteed emblem every game

  • @zombiesatethevideostar1695
    @zombiesatethevideostar1695 10 месяцев назад +1

    That Chandra found her way into my Nekasur Commander deck. That discard and three card wheel easily fucks with opponents.

  • @TrentOrTreat
    @TrentOrTreat 10 месяцев назад +1

    I’ll never forget my first one. Sorin Markov. Just loved him so now he’s my favorite character

  • @ItWatchesWithoutEyes
    @ItWatchesWithoutEyes 10 месяцев назад +7

    Best way to use Gideon is to basically run Oath of Teferi and extra turn spells to use the +1 ability, cast a Teferi's protection, and then ultimate.

    • @ScornfulEg0tist
      @ScornfulEg0tist 10 месяцев назад +2

      It's a magnificent damage sink in commander, and the animation scaling off of loyalty can make it a really strong finisher with a source of evasion
      The Ult just doesn't happen without shenanigans

  • @kewldawg100
    @kewldawg100 10 месяцев назад +3

    I pulled off the Gideon Ultimate ONCE and it was the most hilarious thing XD

    • @rxy228
      @rxy228 10 месяцев назад +1

      did you still have gideon around afterwards of was it just "destroy all permanents"?

    • @tk421eatmyshorts
      @tk421eatmyshorts 10 месяцев назад

      I’ve pulled off Gideon ult multiple times. He’s one of 5 finishers in my All Walls/Maze’s End deck. He’d safely get to 25 loyalty behind walls and then randomly two shot kill players. While they’re figuring him out, Blight Piles or Vent Sentinels are burning. I’m sure he’s gotten a lot worse with the destroyer target PW spells though

  • @fishcati5620
    @fishcati5620 Месяц назад

    I feel like the Jace ability meant to say "and put the rest into your hand" at the end but somewhere along the way they flubbed it and no one caught the mistake until it was too late.
    That said, I think he'd actually fit quite well in a recursion deck, being able to cheat large boys into the graveyard without casting them comes in handy sometimes.

  • @thiagoventuradesousa7275
    @thiagoventuradesousa7275 10 месяцев назад +2

    Prof. Lewis, we need to talk about WOTC sunseting Portuguese cards and how awful it is for places like Brazil to wither

  • @whalesequence
    @whalesequence 10 месяцев назад +2

    My first planeswalker was Chandra Ablaze. I was so excited to pull it in a pack. If only I knew just how awful that card was lol

  • @dziembowskisteve
    @dziembowskisteve 10 месяцев назад +2

    1:42 You say Top 5 and hold up 4 fingers and then say Bottom 5 and hold up 6 fingers. What the actual eff.

  • @villa3927
    @villa3927 10 месяцев назад +1

    Having played Gideon, Champion of Justice in commander for years, I'd like to say:
    1. Having 3 opponents that can atack him is bad. But having 3 opponents means more creatures to feed his loyalty. Getting him to 15 or more loyalty is not too uncommon.
    2. Having him with 15 loyalty and with no intention to use his ultimate is a great way to bluff an inminent board wipe and having your opponents panic. They will try to atack him to keep him low or try to kill it, and that, for real, can be plenty of damage not directed at you.
    Yeah, its not what a planeswalker often is. But a damage sponge can be a neat thing to have when you're mostly playing control.

  • @jdonvance
    @jdonvance 10 месяцев назад

    16:47 I'm pretty sure I single-handedly got Wizards to fix the Oracle listing for Null Rod. Without the Romanized text, the meaning of Hanna's response changes. However they originally digitized the card's flavor text removed the nuance and thus the meaning. I petitioned three different ways, and now it's correct.

    • @jdonvance
      @jdonvance 10 месяцев назад

      Edit: It was fixed last time I checked. Now, it's back to being wrong. Thankfully (?), Scryfall has it right, but only if you look at the Weatherlight version. (This became important to me because they reprinted it in Vintage Masters incorrectly.)

  • @mothballmouth
    @mothballmouth 10 месяцев назад +1

    The only redeeming thing about "Gideon, champion of justice" is that Dave Rapoza did the art. Dave deserves more commissions from Wizards and love in general.

  • @daemonslayer59able
    @daemonslayer59able 10 месяцев назад

    Love ya prof, glad I got to see you at magic con!

  • @SWNJim
    @SWNJim 10 месяцев назад

    I have the Jace, Chandra, and Huatli in a planeswalker cube list where the rule is that you can’t attack or target a player if they have a planeswalker on the battlefield. Other unique rules is that there is a limited amount of basic lands that everyone plays from (other utility lands are in the deck) and players use a shared library, graveyard, and exile. Owner’s hand can be any player’s hand.

  • @Beckola44
    @Beckola44 10 месяцев назад

    It's hard to believe that these 5 terrible Planeswalkers are Mythics. Thank you for the video Professor.

  • @jonathanrobinson8926
    @jonathanrobinson8926 10 месяцев назад +3

    If Chandra Ablaze were 4 mana instead of 6, I would definitely use her. But only in my Anje Madness commander deck.
    In that deck she would be pretty sweet jank honestly. But at 6? Yeesh 😬

  • @jdonvance
    @jdonvance 10 месяцев назад

    Can confirm: Those Cubeamajigs and Podamajigs are awesome. High quality materials and beautiful art.

  • @skyfire001
    @skyfire001 10 месяцев назад +1

    I remember managing to pull off Sarkhan Unbroken's ultimate a couple times....So fun

  • @RaunienTheFirst
    @RaunienTheFirst 10 месяцев назад

    What's funny is that there was an Ajani from those planeswalker decks that actually *was* standard relevant! It made an infinite turns combo with Timestream Navigator.

  • @Mibit911
    @Mibit911 25 дней назад

    Everytime i hear
    Bee woo buh buh bee woo buh boww
    And then the monotone voice of the eldrazi titans.
    I know my day is a bit more relaxed

  • @ty_sylicus
    @ty_sylicus 10 месяцев назад +1

    Good thing we didn't include Planeswalker decks in this evaluation.

  • @ty_sylicus
    @ty_sylicus 10 месяцев назад +1

    #2? How dare you!
    Will have ya know I've won multiple games of EDH back in the day with a lone Gideon.
    So it's a bad card but, it can win the game, which is more than 3-5 can do.

  • @Russian_engineer_bmstu
    @Russian_engineer_bmstu 10 месяцев назад +2

    I play karn in some decks as a wincon. His plus is just good enough, and his ult is game winning

  • @ClexYoshi
    @ClexYoshi 10 месяцев назад +1

    Liliana of the Dark Realms and Sarkhan the Mad come to mind. Liliana does at least... draw you a swamp and maybe removes a thing if you really are only playing swamps, but the low starting loyalty and the fact that her middle ability kills her if you don't at least spend a turn getting a swamp is awful. Sarkhan is just... incredibly self-defeating? but I guess he has seen play, so... what do I know?

    • @registereduser
      @registereduser 10 месяцев назад

      Might not be the best use of my time, but I run LotDR purely for the get a swamp card ability/the art.

    • @ClexYoshi
      @ClexYoshi 10 месяцев назад

      @@registereduserand that's honestly rad. I like when players find uses for things others might think are hot garbage.

  • @MakeVarahHappen
    @MakeVarahHappen 10 месяцев назад +1

    I will say Karn, Living Legacy is useful in some formats as an infinite mana outlet. In that situation he's a colorless tutor.

  • @leadpaintchips9461
    @leadpaintchips9461 9 месяцев назад

    I remember my first experiences with plainswalkers, and how they were considered trash by everyone around me because of how easy they were to just get rid of, they effectively wasted a turn for no payout.

  • @michatuhendowicz3963
    @michatuhendowicz3963 10 месяцев назад

    I'm using Karn in my Brudiclad deck - provides both some ramp to cast my commander and eventually, after Brudi gets to the battlefield, all those mana rocks become creatures

  • @creamreviews1607
    @creamreviews1607 10 месяцев назад +2

    Is it sad that I've lost to a few of these in my Magic lifetime?

    • @registereduser
      @registereduser 10 месяцев назад +2

      You play long enough, things happen :D

    • @captainbanjaxavalanche4313
      @captainbanjaxavalanche4313 10 месяцев назад

      I managed to win with a deck running Tibalt, Rakish instigator, against a deck that was running and had an Ugin and Wanderer on the field, weird things like that will happen. By all accounts, I should have lost.