I bought a used one from the junkyard. The junk car was a Caddy with 30 thousand miles on it, so the EBCM was in good shape. It cost $55.00. I installed it myself. It wasn't hard, but it was a pain to gain access to one of the screws. The lights never came back. I also grabbed the front leather seats from the same car and replaced my cracked ones.
Now THAT is a component level repair I like to see. After a career in aerospace and computer engineering as an engineering tech, I went on to biomedical research, but kept up with applied engineering. Cars are mostly controlled by electronics now, and that's fine with me. I could have done "board level" swaps back in the day, but preferred to do the actual diagnosis down to the particular resistor, capacitor, transistor or chip and save my employer a few buck$ (often hundred$ and in some cases thousand$). Over 90% of "repairs" were fixing cold solder joints from boards that had been wave soldered. Not enough flux or heat too low. The rest were a mix of corrosion on connectors or burned out components. I don't begrudge auto mechanics their pay. What I disagree with is engineering planned obsolescence and warranties based on MTBF (Mean Time Between Failure) of electronic and mechanical components, and making the ECM code difficult to find anywhere, much less online. I'm not wanting to rewrite or hack any of it (or violate their copyright). Just want to look at signals and do simple things like exercise the ABS dump valve to get air bubbles out of the module while bleeding the brakes without having to pay $1k+ for a "scanner" I don't need. Most scanner manufacturer's reps can't even tell you what their products will do aside from what's on their poorly written website. Sheesh!
Challenge them. If it's an insider thing and they won't tell you, i guess start a scanner company. After a life like that, you may have good finances. Leave the personal credit alone and opt for business credit. Of course you have to bring something new and interesting to the table, but once you get the information, you will be able to help everyone everywhere and SOLVE that problem. Good luck to you!
Not that American engineering is at fault, just greed, bottom line under engineering to fail , out squeezing pennies for dollars, so some new CEO gets his second hand yacht , for skank parties.😁🤔😱😎🙊
Just did this exact same procedure on my 2001 S-10 a little while ago. The brake and ABS would come on intermittently. I knew it was a cold solder joint issue, because if I started the vehicle and the lights were not on, I could open the hood, and tap the top of the EBCM module with the handle of a screwdriver, and BOOM....lights would immediately come on. Just took it for a test drive after my repair, and everything was good. Tapped on the top of the module twenty or so times to try to get the lights to come back on, but they didn't. Problem fixed. I was an Electronics Technician for years when I was younger, and I did a LOT of soldering back then. That experience I have/had is a good thing to have!! Good video!!! Thx for posting it!!
I followed the steps in your video and was able to re-melt the cracked solder where the power wires connect to the board on a 2005 Cadillac Deville EBCM. It worked! No more lights on the dash! Thank you for the detailed video and your insight into how to fix this problem ourselves. The cracks in the solder are hard to see without taking a close photo but they were defiantly there and were the problem.
Thanks for this video. I did this twice. The first time my soldering iron wasn't working well. I suspect the original solder is higher temp than what I am used to working with. After the first time I ordered a new higher wattage iron. I was still getting the code but in a little different pattern than before so I still thought the solder joints were the problem. I redid it with the new iron a couple of weeks ago. I could tell immediately that the solder was flowing much better. I now declare mine fixed.
Hello: after watching this video, see how easy it is repair and I repaired my chevy s10 modulo 2000, following the recomendations and surprise worked. I own my s10 since 2006 and the failure of the abs I had since I ve had since 2009, when I was driving in the Tennessee chattanooga, pass a bump and immediately turned on the abs.. thank you very much for sharing this video. thousands of likess
I had the same thing happen to my 98 blazer! Fixed the bad solder connections, siliconed it back up and it's been 3 years and still going. Great video!
What you refer to as "vibration dampners" are actually heat sinks, that use the aluminum case as a heat dissipater/spreader. The heat conductive thermal paste is very necessary, and should be thoroughly renewed to maintain it's effectiveness. Clean off the old on both surfaces with rubbing alcohol, then reapply a pea sized dab on each chip, then assemble cover.
You have no idea how lucky you are that the unit isn’t buried under the frame on the drivers side. Good video- appreciate it. But for all those that have to try & get it out from beneath the vehicle & ridiculously inaccessible- may the force be with you!
Very nice video I have 50 miles on this repair and I have no lights on. Previously it was a 5 minute light up ordeal. Thank you very much for the 1500 dollar discount. I have a few add in and mods I did which I'm pretty sure you did but maybe it might be a little unclear to non mechanic enthusiast that is mechanically inclined and wants to fix his own vehicle but would like to do this very easy repair. For the enthusiast google two things through hole circuit board component and surface mount component. This this guys very good advice to repair your module. After you figure out the difference between the surface mount and through hole components and you have the module opened up in front of you ignore all of the surface mount components. All you need to do is go around the circuit board and and through hole component re melt the solder. He points out a bunch of different spots on the board if your new to circuit boards or soldering you might have trouble trying to match what he is doing. The ultimate goal is to reheat each through hole component. Don't just say well he only did these 8 spots(arbrtrary number). Go ahead and re heat each through hole solder joint. I just did it and did every through hole and it was less than 2 minutes to do every single one. Better safe than sorry.
well I will try too. since 3 so far did it. I don't own a 2001 I keep my 74, and 84. because I know the in and outs and both. because I built them from the ground up. and fix the 84 the right way. the guy that owned it. should never had opened the hood. RTV Orange on every Vacuumed hose had RTV on it.
Excellent!!! Thank you for your time. Very common issue, my mechanic didn’t want to try it. I’m a dentist and working with tiny delicate things are what I do all day. I wouldn’t recommend for the heavy handed.
If you're doing a 2009 F150, there's 4 screws (#6 e-torx socket) to remove and one plug. To get the plug out, just pull the lever on top of the plug in the opposite direction and it will release. You'll have more room to work if you take out the air box/radiator overflow tank (13 wrench or socket on the two bolts then pull it straight up to release the grommets holding it in place). Easy.
Good video but... Try this first before taking the module out. By accident I found that if I wiggled the power connector. the one shown at 5:10, I could make the ABS and Brake come on and go out. Loose connection or corrosion. I slightly bent the male lugs in the module so they made better contact when plugging the connector back in. No more lights. And of course make sure your grounds are good, on the frame under the driver's door.
I am a ASE Certified mechanic and this the best fix for this problem. I had my doubts but it worked! The hardest part was cleaning the old silicon off. I suggest using new white electronic heat sink paste for the contact points inside the unit. A replacement remanufactured ABS Module was $175, this fix cost me $7.49 for the Black RTV Silicon. Just say'n!
There is nothing to reprogram. Once you resolder the connections and reinstall the unit, the ABS light should go right out. If not, the problem is deeper than the solder connections.
Hi I have bmw z3 2.2 sport 2002 m54 engine I scanned my car and it shows following codes 5E5B ASC/DSC BUTTON 5E30 TRANSVERSE ACCELERATION SENSOR 5E3C ROTATION RATE SIGNAL 5E38 ROTATIONAL RATE SENSOR 5E4F CONTINUOS CONTROL Both lights yellow dsc alongside Parking brake warning light permanent They telling me dsc controller is damaged what do you think of it
You just saved me $1500. The removal on my 2000 Silverado was quite a bit more difficult, but the rest wasn't too bad. I added thermal grease to your instructions and put dielectric grease on the three connectors before plugging them in. Thanks!
I replaced all of my daughters 2006 jeep liberty ABS sensors while I was doing brakes and rotors(only $70 at 150000 mi). The light Is still on, I am an electronic tech too, so I'm pullin It apart tomorrow!! Thanks!
My Chevy Blazer had the exact same problem. I tried your methode and it just worked fine! Was a pain in the a... to get the old sealer out but it safed me a lot of hassle and money. Thanks again.
Wanted to report that the reflowing of the bad solder joints did the trick. I spent more time (2+ hr) cutting open the silicone sealant, cleaning off the old sealant, and then resealing it. The actual soldering took 5 minutes. GOOD LUCK to others that want to try this fix. Works!!!
Thank-you so much for posting this. It solved my issue on my 2003 GMC Safari. The fix was easy but getting the ABS module out was total hell. On the vans it's mounted to the frame just under the drivers seat. So lying on your back with the module facing away from you working with a mirror is not fun. One of the T20 screws was totally corroded and the only thing I could do is file the head off. Eventually I got the module out (about a 4 hour struggle..) Fixing and replacing the module was less than a couple of hours. Total cost was $10 for a tube of silicone. I'm sure this saved way over $1k. Thanks again....
I thought I would mention that the problem appeared to be cold/fractured solder connections on the back connector. It looks like their are two connectors each for power and ground and the ground connectors were both fractured. I also reapplied heat sink compound on the points used for heat sinking.
Thanks for the post. I did indeed have bad solders joints right where you said they'd be on my sons 2002 Tahoe - the power connector. Our unit DID NOT have screws holding it together, solely gasket material so after repair, we had to reapply and set some weights on it for a day to dry. Didn't bank of this so the car was out of commission for a day. But seems to be working great now. Thanks again!!
Started to rebuild mine today and it suddenly occurred to me to see if the local junkyard had one. 15 minutes and $20 and I walked out with one off a blazer. If It doesn't solve the problem at least I have one to practice on before ripping into my original unit.
Thanks! I have an old '94 Suburban that IF I could get the ABS light to go out it would come on within 100 feet of my house even without using the brakes. Your video inspired me to crack my ABS module open. I found that there was a pin near a relay that the solder cracked. (Not on the main electronic board.) After I soldered it and put it together I had to reset the module to clear the codes. I found online that if you short the upper right most pin of the OBD1 connector (with a paper clip) to the second from the left pin of the bottom row of the OBD1 connector with the key on for 2 seconds, disconnect one side of the paper clip for 1 second, then reconnect for 2 seconds, then pull the paper clip the ABS module resets and clears the codes. Your video inspired me to take on this project which really didnt take that long. Thank you! I tried resetting it before soldering but since the solder was cracked the unit wouldn't reset.
It would be very instructive if you included some video of you getting the lid off without breaking the board. Perhaps edit out or speed up some of the screw turning. Seems like the resoldering and lid removal are the 2 most tricky operations. I have repaired a number of no longer available automotive electronic circuit boards just by checking solder joints and looking for burnt connections at relays etc. Otherwise from one engineer improviser to another, thanks a bunch for taking the time to make the video. It is the fear of the unknown which keeps folks from diving into projects like this. I have always used the adage that if it already doesn't work, then what harm can I do trying to fix it. I've learned a bunch using that philosophy and it's surprising how many complicated things can be repaired by just doing a simple fix. Detroit definitely doesn't like people doing this. Kudos
Brother! I'm glad you did not do the Seppuku! We need you and your "human hands". Very informative; thanks for posting! I'll be working on mine this week.
When you re-install the ABS Module if you have ESP or a steering angle sensor ... make sure your front wheels are dead straight, because often the ESP/ABS module will reset to center when removed and refitted. Ergo if your wheels are turned left and the Module thinks that position is straight ahead then you will soon have (at best) another abs light and (at worst) an accident during an emergency brake abs failure. If needed use you tech to re calibrate.
Tried this and it worked! Word of caution, GMC Sierra, you have to use a small Torx wrench to get the front two screws out due to the tight space under the frame. Be careful not to strip. I did and had to remove whole abs pump module in order to get screw out. Caused a lot of extra work bleeding the lines.
You are super lucky this module is under the hood on your Blazer...spent 5 hours today getting out two stripped torx off this thing on a Suburban. What a nightmare location they stuck it... obviously never had intentions of it being replaced, because it's clearly installed before the body goes onto the frame.
Just picked up a 97 Seville with this same problem. Thank you for the video. Great sense of humor in handling some of the below, as well, much appreciated.
You should always clean out the torques screws head before trying to remove the screws. This will really make the difference for sure. What is the camera you are using NCP ??? The tough thing with these modules is finding them at the junkyard, if you can find an undamaged part. Nice work fella too.
Just bought a 01 yukon xl 2500 and had the ABS and Parking light on intermittently. Took the EBCM off (under the driver seat bolted to the frame on my model) and rebuilt the module based on your video. seems to have resolved the issue, and hopefully saved me $1400 smackeroos! fingers crossed thank you for the video!
Thanks for video. Just did this to my s10 pickup. My unit did not have the tiny torx screws like yours. All I had to do to remove the cover was cut into the silicon sealant and cover came right off.
My 94 Vigor, garaged for 6 years, (humidity controlled) and the ABS light came on. LR sensor supposedly. No issues when going into storage and was nothing to impact rear sensor so guess I'll check the module connections. Thanks for the tear-down, wish me luck.
I did it successfully. Thanks for you video, I loved it. I could not see any issues under magnifying glass. I re soldered anyways, a few of the contacts sucked up solder, telling me it need more and or had a bad solder joint.
Did this to my 2001 Tahoe 3 months ago. Stripped torx head on one of the screws so had to pull mod and pump out (mounted on frame under driver side) and rebleed brakes so took me about 8 hrs. But after all said and done problem fixed and no lights any more! One tip though. Even if the solder looks good touch a little on anyway.
oh you meant turn the abs lights off and clear the code. you will have to clear the code but you can go to a auto parts store and if the can pull up codes they can clear them too. just tell them you fixed the problem. But i just thought of this if you disconnect your battery for the repair it automatically clears the codes.
This is the second video I've watched that doesn't show the actual soldering procedure. As someone that doesn't solder it would of been nice to see the procedure. Do you actually put more solder on or are you just heating up those points? What's the approx time soldering gun should make contact on each point? It seems to me that the soldering is the most important part in an attempt to make this work again. Help! Cheers.
Just did a module and your video was of great help🙂 There were barely visible solder joint cracks on the relay. I retouched those...hard to solder, not pleased with the look of my work...but... I noticed 2 ground contact areas on the edge of the circuit board. There's a narrow ledge on the aluminum cover/heat sink that's meant to make contact on those. With the gap (resealed with urethane) at the joint, it's easy to not tighten evenly and have one of those grounds not be in contact with the internal aluminum ledge. I suspect that was more the problem than the microscopic solder cracks. I spent a few hours getting this done. This job isn't for everyone. Good news, it worked. ABS light is "OFF"
Good video, I'm going to try to solder mine tomorrow before I give someone 200 bucks to reheat some solder. If it doesnt work I'll just buy another one. What sucks is I cant just get one at auto parts. Thanks for good info
I did it myself in 20 minutes. It was raining the other day, I tested it out, and the ABS is working perfectly now. It was really just loose plugs that needed a brief touch of a soldering iron. It's amazing how much the dealer wanted for that repair.
so i most likely have this exact issue on my 2001 silverado truck... not sure if i can remove it that easy... i wonder if you can just buy a new one...i mean just the plastic part you took off with board not the part with brakes lines connected... what is that part called..??? would i have to have it programmed also?? i never fixed abs before...thanks for sharing
Great video. I just have a couple of questions. 1. Does this information apply to the 2008 Ford F150 pickup truck? 2. Could the damage you found cause the front end of the truck to shake when the brakes are applied? I did have an ABS light, and the shop says runout on the brake disks was in spec. Thank you in advance for your reply. Keep up the good work.
# 1. I don't know that I don't have one. # 2. I would think that would be warped rotors. But if a shop looked at it and did not know what's causing. I would go somewhere else and get it checked out. Something is not right and breaks are one thing I don't take chances with.
`I have an ABS problem on my 2004 Ram 1500, except mine is in the brake pressure modulator valve assembly. No light on or codes. Factory ABS sold for about a grand, but was discontinued in 2015. I'm wondering if the valves can be manipulated by hand, if there may be a piece of dirt lodged in one or just stuck, & possibly could be rebuilt. There is something about used brake parts that seems counter-intuitive to me, but I'll probably have to find a used one.
That 'vibration adhesive' step that was skipped in the video is not the substance you had identified.... I cracked open an original module to find a white creamy paste at the same positions on the module's circuit board and on the opposing aluminum cover matching the same locations in your video. That substance's purpose is a type of heatsink / thermal paste compound / grease that aids in the thermal conductance of heat away from the electronic parts on the circuit board at those positions into the larger aluminum metal cover which dilutes and dissipates the heat generated by those electronic parts similar to thermal paste that's used between CPU chips and heat sinks in computers... for those that have already tried this repair, wish I'd seen this video some time ago to add my two cents back then which may very well amount to saving much more than that in part replacement and labor reinvestment later but didn't have need nor come across it until my brother was referencing it in a repair on our sister's vehicle that was set in motion yesterday.
Great investigation and solution. I have found that similar mechanical assemblies that solder lugs into PC boards often fail due to fracturing solder joints due to temperature cycling over time. The failure normally shows up as a small circular fracture ring around the large pins. The first one I found was on a high voltage transformer mounted to a PC board in a projection TV (Panasonic). I have since found it in many inoperative electronic assemblies. I think I am now seeing it on a friends intermittent ABS unit in her 2001 Toyota Sequoia.
Got an '02 that just had the ABS light come on a week ago. Would be nice if this is the worst-case scenario. Now I just have to wait for a break in the rain that started day after Thanksgiving. Always some sort of challenge.
A little drawn out but not a bad vid. You seem like the type of person that'd be awesome to get drunk with while playing Xbox and talking about engineering haha. Well done.
I really hope this is the reason my brake/abs lights are on in my 92 Astro. They came on when a wheel cylinder blew out, and never went out after I replaced it. I've tried every mechanical fix to no avail. I just didn't think that the ECBM would be the issue when the wheel cylinder caused the initial issue.
how did he fix the loose solenoid. He said in the beginning that it needed to be soldered but how did he do it or get at that or did he leave it alone?
Hey brother good job on the fix...Sadly This video doesn't show exactly where and what you soldered! Did you document which pins needed solder? It being 3 years later im screwed! If ya have it could you post it please? Thanks! Great Job!!!
I hit all the big pads in that area to re-flow/remelt them all. Some times the cracks are almost microscopic. And don't cause a fault until the unites heats up. So I just did them all.
Most informative of similar vids. Thanks, Prep! You saved me hundreds of dollars and lots of pain. You reminded me to get new gasket maker, among other points.
Thank you very much for the Video, I have a 2003 Chevy Blazer and the ABS light comes on when I am driving but only when I push on the brake, the other thing i noticed was that when I go to park and I press on the brake sometimes it or the brake pedal will slip, in other words for a brief second it will feel like I hit ice, I am not to sure what the issue is there but I am most certain that it has something to do with the ABS issue, Personally I hate vehicles with ABS. ( noted), Thanks again for the video I am going to try this and see if it helps...
I just got a 06' 2500HD 6L and it displays "SERVICE BRAKE SYSTEM". No brake light or ABS light is illuminated. Will you folks please let me know if I should try this? I think mine is under the drivers seat and a pain in the neck to get out according to other videos. Brakes work fine but I hate it when my vehicle says "I want to bankrupt you". Thanks for any help.
You are funny and boring and interesting at the same time. Thanks for posting this video though. I think it will help a lot of people out. Me included in that group.iii
Can this be done to a 2009 Toyota Camry Le? I'm having the same problem you are with the dash lights going on and the speedo working erateckly. This presents a problem when getting the car smogged. It won't pass if the unit isn't working correctly. This is a 2100.00 unit if bought new. Any ideas?🤔😳🙂
you assume I know how to solder.I would like you to point io the problem with the solder spots ie what's actually wrong with them?what are you looking for as the issue.Can you show how to actually solder and correct the bad spots?Thanks
OMFG!!! That should have been a 5 minute job! I'm 100% positive it will work but am also 100% POSITIVE I would just spend the $1000 parts and labor Bill before I had to watch THIS AGAIN!
Thanks for the video. I coped your method and now have no more abs light on the dash! I’m happy it worked but was pretty skeptical being that when I got the cover off I saw no visible problem with the solders that were there. For whatever reason re-soldering them was the ticket.
Oliver Mittuch Bingo. Solder gets micro-cracks that you can't see but resoldering them fixes a lot of problems. Glad it worked. I'm hoping it will work for mine
I just resoldered mine on Wednesday. The module looked good with no cracks. The vehicle drove good with no lights for two days. My lights came back on today... I’m pissed!
I bought a used one from the junkyard. The junk car was a Caddy with 30 thousand miles on it, so the EBCM was in good shape. It cost $55.00. I installed it myself. It wasn't hard, but it was a pain to gain access to one of the screws. The lights never came back. I also grabbed the front leather seats from the same car and replaced my cracked ones.
Junkyard is the best place to go for modules...id never do all of this...
You had a devile with the abs traction an brake lights on?
Did it have to be programmed
@@streettalkmedia9676 no
@@streettalkmedia9676 No. My husband gets the credit for finding it. Installation was easy.
Now THAT is a component level repair I like to see. After a career in aerospace and computer engineering as an engineering tech, I went on to biomedical research, but kept up with applied engineering. Cars are mostly controlled by electronics now, and that's fine with me. I could have done "board level" swaps back in the day, but preferred to do the actual diagnosis down to the particular resistor, capacitor, transistor or chip and save my employer a few buck$ (often hundred$ and in some cases thousand$). Over 90% of "repairs" were fixing cold solder joints from boards that had been wave soldered. Not enough flux or heat too low. The rest were a mix of corrosion on connectors or burned out components. I don't begrudge auto mechanics their pay. What I disagree with is engineering planned obsolescence and warranties based on MTBF (Mean Time Between Failure) of electronic and mechanical components, and making the ECM code difficult to find anywhere, much less online. I'm not wanting to rewrite or hack any of it (or violate their copyright). Just want to look at signals and do simple things like exercise the ABS dump valve to get air bubbles out of the module while bleeding the brakes without having to pay $1k+ for a "scanner" I don't need. Most scanner manufacturer's reps can't even tell you what their products will do aside from what's on their poorly written website. Sheesh!
Challenge them. If it's an insider thing and they won't tell you, i guess start a scanner company. After a life like that, you may have good finances. Leave the personal credit alone and opt for business credit. Of course you have to bring something new and interesting to the table, but once you get the information, you will be able to help everyone everywhere and SOLVE that problem.
Good luck to you!
Not that American engineering is at fault, just greed, bottom line under engineering to fail , out squeezing pennies for dollars, so some new CEO gets his second hand yacht , for skank parties.😁🤔😱😎🙊
Just did this exact same procedure on my 2001 S-10 a little while ago. The brake and ABS would come on intermittently. I knew it was a cold solder joint issue, because if I started the vehicle and the lights were not on, I could open the hood, and tap the top of the EBCM module with the handle of a screwdriver, and BOOM....lights would immediately come on. Just took it for a test drive after my repair, and everything was good. Tapped on the top of the module twenty or so times to try to get the lights to come back on, but they didn't. Problem fixed. I was an Electronics Technician for years when I was younger, and I did a LOT of soldering back then. That experience I have/had is a good thing to have!! Good video!!! Thx for posting it!!
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Would you mind making a soldering vid?
I followed the steps in your video and was able to re-melt the cracked solder where the power wires connect to the board on a 2005 Cadillac Deville EBCM. It worked! No more lights on the dash! Thank you for the detailed video and your insight into how to fix this problem ourselves. The cracks in the solder are hard to see without taking a close photo but they were defiantly there and were the problem.
What lights on your dash were on I have a 2001 cadillac deville. Was it throwing codes c1214 and 1248?
Thank you so much for posting this. I did it and it worked like a charm. Over 6 months later still no lights! Thank you again!
Your a great samaritan providing a great service to all of us chevy abs light sufferers. Thank you sir, you do great work.
Thanks for this video. I did this twice. The first time my soldering iron wasn't working well. I suspect the original solder is higher temp than what I am used to working with. After the first time I ordered a new higher wattage iron. I was still getting the code but in a little different pattern than before so I still thought the solder joints were the problem. I redid it with the new iron a couple of weeks ago. I could tell immediately that the solder was flowing much better. I now declare mine fixed.
75 watt gun needed,.
Use flux on those joints and it will make the soldering so much easier
4 years since the repair and still working great.
Hello: after watching this video, see how easy it is repair and I repaired my chevy s10 modulo 2000, following the recomendations and surprise worked. I own my s10 since 2006 and the failure of the abs I had since I ve had since 2009, when I was driving in the Tennessee chattanooga, pass a bump and immediately turned on the abs.. thank you very much for sharing this video. thousands of likess
I had the same thing happen to my 98 blazer!
Fixed the bad solder connections, siliconed it back up and it's been 3 years and still going.
Great video!
How was the brake pedal feeling?
What you refer to as "vibration dampners" are actually heat sinks, that use the aluminum case as a heat dissipater/spreader. The heat conductive thermal paste is very necessary, and should be thoroughly renewed to maintain it's effectiveness. Clean off the old on both surfaces with rubbing alcohol, then reapply a pea sized dab on each chip, then assemble cover.
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A pea sized dab of what?
@@jgarrettchunn thermal paste
@@jgarrettchunn heat conductive thermal paste…
You have no idea how lucky you are that the unit isn’t buried under the frame on the drivers side. Good video- appreciate it. But for all those that have to try & get it out from beneath the vehicle & ridiculously inaccessible- may the force be with you!
I'm so grateful it was on top.
You must have an Audi, I know your pain!
Yeah. Same here. Why make the bolts face a metal panel two inches away?
Very nice video I have 50 miles on this repair and I have no lights on. Previously it was a 5 minute light up ordeal. Thank you very much for the 1500 dollar discount. I have a few add in and mods I did which I'm pretty sure you did but maybe it might be a little unclear to non mechanic enthusiast that is mechanically inclined and wants to fix his own vehicle but would like to do this very easy repair.
For the enthusiast google two things through hole circuit board component and surface mount component. This this guys very good advice to repair your module. After you figure out the difference between the surface mount and through hole components and you have the module opened up in front of you ignore all of the surface mount components. All you need to do is go around the circuit board and and through hole component re melt the solder. He points out a bunch of different spots on the board if your new to circuit boards or soldering you might have trouble trying to match what he is doing. The ultimate goal is to reheat each through hole component. Don't just say well he only did these 8 spots(arbrtrary number). Go ahead and re heat each through hole solder joint. I just did it and did every through hole and it was less than 2 minutes to do every single one. Better safe than sorry.
Stacy Tyler how hot was your soldering iron? I jave a 40 watt and it wont melt the original solder
flux is your friend
well I will try too. since 3 so far did it. I don't own a 2001 I keep my 74, and 84. because I know the in and outs and both. because I built them from the ground up. and fix the 84 the right way. the guy that owned it. should never had opened the hood. RTV Orange on every Vacuumed hose had RTV on it.
I repaired mine. one of the 6 coils had a broken wire. I soldered it, lights went off. thanks for the vid, it was a great help
Excellent!!! Thank you for your time. Very common issue, my mechanic didn’t want to try it. I’m a dentist and working with tiny delicate things are what I do all day. I wouldn’t recommend for the heavy handed.
Old video here but I still wanted to say thanks. Fixed the ABS code on my wife's Blazer and only took about an hour. Good work, bud.
If you're doing a 2009 F150, there's 4 screws (#6 e-torx socket) to remove and one plug. To get the plug out, just pull the lever on top of the plug in the opposite direction and it will release. You'll have more room to work if you take out the air box/radiator overflow tank (13 wrench or socket on the two bolts then pull it straight up to release the grommets holding it in place). Easy.
Thanks for the tip, I have the same vehicle. Did you have to flash the codes after install?
@@alexandersmith5342 No, it was "plug and play."
@@imaouima Thanks, I appreciate it.
Good video but...
Try this first before taking the module out. By accident I found that if I wiggled the power connector. the one shown at 5:10, I could make the ABS and Brake come on and go out. Loose connection or corrosion. I slightly bent the male lugs in the module so they made better contact when plugging the connector back in. No more lights. And of course make sure your grounds are good, on the frame under the driver's door.
I am a ASE Certified mechanic and this the best fix for this problem. I had my doubts but it worked! The hardest part was cleaning the old silicon off. I suggest using new white electronic heat sink paste for the contact points inside the unit. A replacement remanufactured ABS Module was $175, this fix cost me $7.49 for the Black RTV Silicon. Just say'n!
I totally agree with ya... Glad it worked for you too.
did you had to reprogram it ?
There is nothing to reprogram. Once you resolder the connections and reinstall the unit, the ABS light should go right out. If not, the problem is deeper than the solder connections.
Robert Allen my abs light is not on but when i pluged up for the check engine light and its reading the abs module you ever heard of this??
Hi
I have bmw z3 2.2 sport 2002 m54 engine I scanned my car and it shows following codes
5E5B ASC/DSC BUTTON
5E30 TRANSVERSE ACCELERATION SENSOR
5E3C ROTATION RATE SIGNAL
5E38 ROTATIONAL RATE SENSOR
5E4F CONTINUOS CONTROL
Both lights yellow dsc alongside
Parking brake warning light permanent
They telling me dsc controller is damaged what do you think of it
You just saved me $1500. The removal on my 2000 Silverado was quite a bit more difficult, but the rest wasn't too bad. I added thermal grease to your instructions and put dielectric grease on the three connectors before plugging them in. Thanks!
I replaced all of my daughters 2006 jeep liberty ABS sensors while I was doing brakes and rotors(only $70 at 150000 mi). The light Is still on, I am an electronic tech too, so I'm pullin It apart tomorrow!! Thanks!
My Chevy Blazer had the exact same problem. I tried your methode and it just worked fine! Was a pain in the a... to get the old sealer out but it safed me a lot of hassle and money. Thanks again.
Wanted to report that the reflowing of the bad solder joints did the trick. I spent more time (2+ hr) cutting open the silicone sealant, cleaning off the old sealant, and then resealing it. The actual soldering took 5 minutes. GOOD LUCK to others that want to try this fix. Works!!!
Thank-you so much for posting this. It solved my issue on my 2003 GMC Safari. The fix was easy but getting the ABS module out was total hell. On the vans it's mounted to the frame just under the drivers seat. So lying on your back with the module facing away from you working with a mirror is not fun. One of the T20 screws was totally corroded and the only thing I could do is file the head off. Eventually I got the module out (about a 4 hour struggle..) Fixing and replacing the module was less than a couple of hours. Total cost was $10 for a tube of silicone. I'm sure this saved way over $1k. Thanks again....
I thought I would mention that the problem appeared to be cold/fractured solder connections on the back connector. It looks like their are two connectors each for power and ground and the ground connectors were both fractured.
I also reapplied heat sink compound on the points used for heat sinking.
Thanks for the post. I did indeed have bad solders joints right where you said they'd be on my sons 2002 Tahoe - the power connector. Our unit DID NOT have screws holding it together, solely gasket material so after repair, we had to reapply and set some weights on it for a day to dry. Didn't bank of this so the car was out of commission for a day. But seems to be working great now. Thanks again!!
Can you show the high definition photos of the broken solder points? Very helpful to see what to look for. Thx
Another testimonial - did this on my '01 Blazer and no more Brake/ABS light ! Thank you for your time to make this video !
Started to rebuild mine today and it suddenly occurred to me to see if the local junkyard had one. 15 minutes and $20 and I walked out with one off a blazer.
If It doesn't solve the problem at least I have one to practice on before ripping into my original unit.
I got mine free off a trailblszer
I had this idea didn’t work needs to be programmed for every individual vehicle
@@tylorpwnsall I believe all you need is tech 2 and some bootleg GM software to do that.
Bro when all was done and the lights went off you had me cheesing like Yae!! I. About to try it on my truck now thanks alot!!
Hi, many thanks for the explanations and step-by-step video. Cheers from Moscow, Russia!
Thanks! I have an old '94 Suburban that IF I could get the ABS light to go out it would come on within 100 feet of my house even without using the brakes. Your video inspired me to crack my ABS module open. I found that there was a pin near a relay that the solder cracked. (Not on the main electronic board.) After I soldered it and put it together I had to reset the module to clear the codes. I found online that if you short the upper right most pin of the OBD1 connector (with a paper clip) to the second from the left pin of the bottom row of the OBD1 connector with the key on for 2 seconds, disconnect one side of the paper clip for 1 second, then reconnect for 2 seconds, then pull the paper clip the ABS module resets and clears the codes. Your video inspired me to take on this project which really didnt take that long. Thank you! I tried resetting it before soldering but since the solder was cracked the unit wouldn't reset.
Just did this myself on my 02 blazer and bam problem solved, thank you very much for your incite, just saved a ton of money doing this at home.
wish you would of shown on video you doing the soldering work .. other than that great video
What!? Thats exactly what i need to be seeing
It would be very instructive if you included some video of you getting the lid off without breaking the board. Perhaps edit out or speed up some of the screw turning. Seems like the resoldering and lid removal are the 2 most tricky operations. I have repaired a number of no longer available automotive electronic circuit boards just by checking solder joints and looking for burnt connections at relays etc.
Otherwise from one engineer improviser to another, thanks a bunch for taking the time to make the video. It is the fear of the unknown which keeps folks from diving into projects like this. I have always used the adage that if it already doesn't work, then what harm can I do trying to fix it. I've learned a bunch using that philosophy and it's surprising how many complicated things can be repaired by just doing a simple fix. Detroit definitely doesn't like people doing this. Kudos
Brother! I'm glad you did not do the Seppuku! We need you and your "human hands". Very informative; thanks for posting! I'll be working on mine this week.
When you re-install the ABS Module if you have ESP or a steering angle sensor ... make sure your front wheels are dead straight, because often the ESP/ABS module will reset to center when removed and refitted. Ergo if your wheels are turned left and the Module thinks that position is straight ahead then you will soon have (at best) another abs light and (at worst) an accident during an emergency brake abs failure. If needed use you tech to re calibrate.
Tried this and it worked! Word of caution, GMC Sierra, you have to use a small Torx wrench to get the front two screws out due to the tight space under the frame. Be careful not to strip. I did and had to remove whole abs pump module in order to get screw out. Caused a lot of extra work bleeding the lines.
I plan to use a torx bit, but attach it to a rachet wrench socket. It's not supposed to e done that way, but it works.
Saved me over $1000.00
Passed state inspection first time...
Thanks much
You are super lucky this module is under the hood on your Blazer...spent 5 hours today getting out two stripped torx off this thing on a Suburban. What a nightmare location they stuck it... obviously never had intentions of it being replaced, because it's clearly installed before the body goes onto the frame.
drill and a left handed bit will work wonders.
Am an engineer Jim not a camera man. Great video, thanks. Learn to focus!
Just picked up a 97 Seville with this same problem. Thank you for the video.
Great sense of humor in handling some of the below, as well, much appreciated.
I just performed this repair with my human hands. No more lights on my 2002 GMC Sonoma. Thanks for your help.
You should always clean out the torques screws head before trying to remove the screws. This will really make the difference for sure. What is the camera you are using NCP ??? The tough thing with these modules is finding them at the junkyard, if you can find an undamaged part. Nice work fella too.
It worked for me the soldering point of the power harness was worn exactly where you explained in the video thanks a lot
Just bought a 01 yukon xl 2500 and had the ABS and Parking light on intermittently. Took the EBCM off (under the driver seat bolted to the frame on my model) and rebuilt the module based on your video. seems to have resolved the issue, and hopefully saved me $1400 smackeroos! fingers crossed thank you for the video!
Thanks for video. Just did this to my s10 pickup. My unit did not have the tiny torx screws like yours. All I had to do to remove the cover was cut into the silicon sealant and cover came right off.
Nice that the light went out. I hope that you then found a clear quiet stretch of road and tested it out and it was OK.
+Dave M Its still fine to this date. We have been out off road and no problems so far.
So you know, on some years the light doesn't come on until you drive about 1/2 a mile or so. Good video.
Light doesnt come on?? Do you mean light doesn't go off? I thought that's what he was trying to fix so the lights would go off.
@@guitarman727 lol, I think he’s saying that just starting your truck isn’t enough to test it. You need to drive it down the road.
Nice easy fix! I like a repair that I can just sit at the workbench for 90% of it. Easier on the back and legs.
My 94 Vigor, garaged for 6 years, (humidity controlled) and the ABS light came on. LR sensor supposedly. No issues when going into storage and was nothing to impact rear sensor so guess I'll check the module connections. Thanks for the tear-down, wish me luck.
I did it successfully. Thanks for you video, I loved it. I could not see any issues under magnifying glass. I re soldered anyways, a few of the contacts sucked up solder, telling me it need more and or had a bad solder joint.
thankx for your video, i was about to by pass the abs module with some brass fittings straight from the master cylinder..
Just had my Miata diagnosed with the same issue, they want 2600 bucks. I like what he said about go To the junk yard and pick one up.
everytime you said "i'll be back", i didn't believe you until you actually came back. i don't do well with rejection.
You may be a good engineer, but you are no videographer, dude. I think I'll speand 150 to have someone else resolder mine. Appreciate you, man!
Did you get your ABS issue resolved?
So much for HD pics. Wish you would have pointed out the problem connections . but thanks for taking time to do video
Much appreciated for the video! This was exactly what was wrong with my EBCM module.
Just did this repair it worked! No more brakes and abs lights!
Did this to my 2001 Tahoe 3 months ago. Stripped torx head on one of the screws so had to pull mod and pump out (mounted on frame under driver side) and rebleed brakes so took me about 8 hrs. But after all said and done problem fixed and no lights any more! One tip though. Even if the solder looks good touch a little on anyway.
did you have to reprogram the pc?????
no I did not have to reprogram. You only have to do that if you replace the ebcm with another one.
oh you meant turn the abs lights off and clear the code. you will have to clear the code but you can go to a auto parts store and if the can pull up codes they can clear them too. just tell them you fixed the problem. But i just thought of this if you disconnect your battery for the repair it automatically clears the codes.
This is the second video I've watched that doesn't show the actual soldering procedure. As someone that doesn't solder it would of been nice to see the procedure. Do you actually put more solder on or are you just heating up those points? What's the approx time soldering gun should make contact on each point? It seems to me that the soldering is the most important part in an attempt to make this work again. Help! Cheers.
Just did a module and your video was of great help🙂
There were barely visible solder joint cracks on the relay. I retouched those...hard to solder, not pleased with the look of my work...but...
I noticed 2 ground contact areas on the edge of the circuit board. There's a narrow ledge on the aluminum cover/heat sink that's meant to make contact on those. With the gap (resealed with urethane) at the joint, it's easy to not tighten evenly and have one of those grounds not be in contact with the internal aluminum ledge. I suspect that was more the problem than the microscopic solder cracks.
I spent a few hours getting this done. This job isn't for everyone. Good news, it worked. ABS light is "OFF"
Good video, I'm going to try to solder mine tomorrow before I give someone 200 bucks to reheat some solder. If it doesnt work I'll just buy another one. What sucks is I cant just get one at auto parts.
Thanks for good info
Thank you for this! My dealer is trying to charge me $1,200 for the part plus labor. I'm definitely trying this first.
I did it myself in 20 minutes. It was raining the other day, I tested it out, and the ABS is working perfectly now. It was really just loose plugs that needed a brief touch of a soldering iron. It's amazing how much the dealer wanted for that repair.
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so i most likely have this exact issue on my 2001 silverado truck... not sure if i can remove it that easy... i wonder if you can just buy a new one...i mean just the plastic part you took off with board not the part with brakes lines connected... what is that part called..??? would i have to have it programmed also?? i never fixed abs before...thanks for sharing
Been there done that.
Check: fuses, relays, yes grounds & electrical connectors, then go deeper and check sensors, dirty axle cog-triggers.
Great video. I just have a couple of questions.
1. Does this information apply to the 2008 Ford F150 pickup truck?
2. Could the damage you found cause the front end of the truck to shake when the brakes are applied? I did have an ABS light, and the shop says runout on the brake disks was in spec.
Thank you in advance for your reply.
Keep up the good work.
# 1. I don't know that I don't have one.
# 2. I would think that would be warped rotors. But if a shop looked at it and did not know what's causing. I would go somewhere else and get it checked out. Something is not right and breaks are one thing I don't take chances with.
`I have an ABS problem on my 2004 Ram 1500, except mine is in the brake pressure modulator valve assembly. No light on or codes. Factory ABS sold for about a grand, but was discontinued in 2015. I'm wondering if the valves can be manipulated by hand, if there may be a piece of dirt lodged in one or just stuck, & possibly could be rebuilt. There is something about used brake parts that seems counter-intuitive to me, but I'll probably have to find a used one.
at 16:00 how did you know the second one was the problem? were you actually able to see cracked solder?
How do you tell which solder joints are bad? Is there a way to test the module is working properly before reinstalling?
That 'vibration adhesive' step that was skipped in the video is not the substance you had identified.... I cracked open an original module to find a white creamy paste at the same positions on the module's circuit board and on the opposing aluminum cover matching the same locations in your video. That substance's purpose is a type of heatsink / thermal paste compound / grease that aids in the thermal conductance of heat away from the electronic parts on the circuit board at those positions into the larger aluminum metal cover which dilutes and dissipates the heat generated by those electronic parts similar to thermal paste that's used between CPU chips and heat sinks in computers... for those that have already tried this repair, wish I'd seen this video some time ago to add my two cents back then which may very well amount to saving much more than that in part replacement and labor reinvestment later but didn't have need nor come across it until my brother was referencing it in a repair on our sister's vehicle that was set in motion yesterday.
Thanks for the video! Will say spend a lot less time on things like unplug and unscrew give us the meat. Data is expensive. Thanks 😊👍
Great investigation and solution. I have found that similar mechanical assemblies that solder lugs into PC boards often fail due to fracturing solder joints due to temperature cycling over time. The failure normally shows up as a small circular fracture ring around the large pins. The first one I found was on a high voltage transformer mounted to a PC board in a projection TV (Panasonic). I have since found it in many inoperative electronic assemblies. I think I am now seeing it on a friends intermittent ABS unit in her 2001 Toyota Sequoia.
By 2:55 he has said he is gonna pull it off at least six or seven times . But it is still on.?
Works like a treat! Busted out the hakko desolder gun and replaced the solder.
Got an '02 that just had the ABS light come on a week ago. Would be nice if this is the worst-case scenario. Now I just have to wait for a break in the rain that started day after Thanksgiving. Always some sort of challenge.
A little drawn out but not a bad vid. You seem like the type of person that'd be awesome to get drunk with while playing Xbox and talking about engineering haha. Well done.
I really hope this is the reason my brake/abs lights are on in my 92 Astro. They came on when a wheel cylinder blew out, and never went out after I replaced it. I've tried every mechanical fix to no avail. I just didn't think that the ECBM would be the issue when the wheel cylinder caused the initial issue.
how did he fix the loose solenoid. He said in the beginning that it needed to be soldered but how did he do it or get at that or did he leave it alone?
just heat up the solders again. thats all. they do this on stereo's solder's too. they sometimes go bad too.
Dude. Talk about dedication. Very good job and funny. No sepicu for you mate!!
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Hey brother good job on the fix...Sadly This video doesn't show exactly where and what you soldered! Did you document which pins needed solder? It being 3 years later im screwed! If ya have it could you post it please? Thanks! Great Job!!!
I hit all the big pads in that area to re-flow/remelt them all. Some times the cracks are almost microscopic. And don't cause a fault until the unites heats up. So I just did them all.
Just wanted to add that you can get solder flux. It will help with reheating old solder to re-flow it.
rosin small core and 75 watt gun
i just got a 2nd hand module off ebay for £10 , put it on & NO more esp & abs lights on all the time ....
only took 5mins to do
c class coupe
You could have used the little t8 on a quarter inch drive with an extension I've had to do that a couple times
Good information, but my ears and eyes were BLEEDING after that video. Thanks God for fast foward
mine is doing the exact same thing, you say about 25.00 at junk yard good i will search for one when these places are open.
This should qualify for safety recall abs malfunction is a safety issue
Yeah, because if those lights are on, your ABS system isn't working.
if only disabling ABS on a sports car was so easy.
Most informative of similar vids. Thanks, Prep! You saved me hundreds of dollars and lots of pain. You reminded me to get new gasket maker, among other points.
Hi Paul. Good video. I have a 2003 s-10, same problem, but EBCM Module is glued together, no screws. Any suggestions?
Thank you very much for the Video, I have a 2003 Chevy Blazer and the ABS light comes on when I am driving but only when I push on the brake, the other thing i noticed was that when I go to park and I press on the brake sometimes it or the brake pedal will slip, in other words for a brief second it will feel like I hit ice, I am not to sure what the issue is there but I am most certain that it has something to do with the ABS issue, Personally I hate vehicles with ABS. ( noted), Thanks again for the video I am going to try this and see if it helps...
I just got a 06' 2500HD 6L and it displays "SERVICE BRAKE SYSTEM". No brake light or ABS light is illuminated. Will you folks please let me know if I should try this? I think mine is under the drivers seat and a pain in the neck to get out according to other videos. Brakes work fine but I hate it when my vehicle says "I want to bankrupt you". Thanks for any help.
You are funny and boring and interesting at the same time. Thanks for posting this video though. I think it will help a lot of people out. Me included in that group.iii
Thank You Thank You Thank you Followed your instructions and woooo the lights went out. Saved me a bundle.
Can this be done to a 2009 Toyota Camry Le?
I'm having the same problem you are with the dash lights going on and the speedo working erateckly.
This presents a problem when getting the car smogged. It won't pass if the unit isn't working correctly. This is a 2100.00 unit if bought new.
Any ideas?🤔😳🙂
you assume I know how to solder.I would like you to point io the problem with the solder spots ie what's actually wrong with them?what are you looking for as the issue.Can you show how to actually solder and correct the bad spots?Thanks
If you don't know what a bad solder connection looks like, don't even think of doing this
I put new master cylinder on an brake pads and petal goes to the floor..will this fix my problem? No brake lights on
How did you determine which points needed resoldering? Were the valves, that went inside the ABS cups, rusty? TY!
Please teacher. How can i purgue the sistem after replace abs module.
So if I'm getting a CO161 ABS Code Brake Switch Circuit do you think I need to do this for My Truck ABS unit ??
OMFG!!! That should have been a 5 minute job! I'm 100% positive it will work but am also 100% POSITIVE I would just spend the $1000 parts and labor Bill before I had to watch THIS AGAIN!
Thanks for the video. I coped your method and now have no more abs light on the dash! I’m happy it worked but was pretty skeptical being that when I got the cover off I saw no visible problem with the solders that were there. For whatever reason re-soldering them was the ticket.
Oliver Mittuch Bingo. Solder gets micro-cracks that you can't see but resoldering them fixes a lot of problems. Glad it worked. I'm hoping it will work for mine
I just resoldered mine on Wednesday. The module looked good with no cracks. The vehicle drove good with no lights for two days. My lights came back on today... I’m pissed!