Plain Simple Garak, Part 1
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- Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
- Elim Garak: tailor, gardener, Cardassian spy, and more--all masterfully portrayed by Andrew Robinson. While not intended to be comprehensive, this video documents some of Garak's greatest moments from Seasons 1 through 4 of Star Trek: Deep Space 9.
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0:00 - Season 1
0:20 - Season 2
1:50 - Season 3
4:20 - Season 4
Episodes...
DS9: Past Prologue, Cardassians, Profit and Loss, The Wire, Second Skin, Civil Defense, Distant Voices, Improbable Cause, The Die Is Cast, The Way of the Warrior, Our Man Bashir, For the Cause, Broken Link, Body Parts
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I want to hear Garek's interpretation of other children's stories... "Goldilocks only mistake was that she did not secure her environment and let her guard down."
"The Three Little Pigs' failure was that they assumed that passive defenses can deter a determined enemy; the Big Bad Wolf's failure was not equipping himself with a shaped-charge warhead."
A fortress is a well defined and isolated target
@@svenofthejungle The real moral of the story there is that you should never announce your arrival to your dinner. *Garak Smile*
@@Sajun777 And the real real moral of the story is to deceive your enemy into thinking you're more simple-minded than you really are by infiltrating the Big Bad Wolf's lair in the disguise of a little girl, only to assassinate him at the moment he thinks he has the upper hand!
"Had the mermaid practiced basic operational security and a focused approach to her studies, her size would have been an asset rather than a hindrance."
"I believe in coincidences. Coincidences happen every day. But I don't trust coincidences" One of best lines EVER.
Yup... my favourite quote.
I don't know why everyone on the station treats him like he's so dangerous. He's just plain, simple Garak, a tailor who overhears things now and then while hemming trousers.
"if there's any sign of trouble at all, you're on your own"
"Mr. Garak, I believe that's the first completely honest thing you've said to me."
The best part of this line is that it was, in fact, a lie. He helped them at the first sign of trouble
Very true. At the time, Garak wasn't as fleshed out but in retrospect it works well too - Garak wouldn't bail at the first sign of trouble - that would risk potentally valuable future assets (i.e. the DS9 crew) - he would absolutely abandon them if he felt it necessary.
Garak's first priority has always been Cardassia - second priority is his father.
He decided to help them anyway because sisko called him out and he made it a retroactive lie.
I still love the "maybe I'm an outcast spy" line. Just because of everything that comes with it
But that's the beauty of it, Bashir dismisses it immediately but it's actually the closest truth. He is an outcast spy 😂
@@TheWPhilosopher An outcast plain, simple tailor, you mean?
@@dm121984 that too :-)
@@TheWPhilosopherNo, no, ONLY that. Haven't you seen how good he is at hemming someone's trousers?
@@Justforvisit well he does have good creativity
Plain, simple Garak has always been my absolute favorite DS9 character. Tinker, tailor, soldier, spy, assassin, interrogator, and unlikely freedom fighter.
"Truth is usually just an excuse for lack of imagination."
And gardener.
I love the amount of complexity they give Garak, include a fear of tight spaces - the writers of DS9 wheren't flawless and weren't perfect, but when they saw a chance to do a better story, even if it was risky, 9 times out of 10 they'd go with it, and most of time it worked out well.
and we find out he is responsible for taking out the head of the obsidian order's top enemies and threats which he did all alone years ago at the start of his exile it makes you wander why are the rest of the order so easily caught out did they spend everything on training garak@@anthonyoleary224
“Never tell the same lie twice” is one of my all time favorites.
Andy Robinson's Garak is perhaps my favorite Star Trek character of all time. Garak, Spock, Data ... gotta love the outsiders looking in.
Odo was the outsider for DS9 really, but DS9 is more nuanced as it shows more than one side of the conflicts.
@@SphincterOfDoomThey are opposites yet they mirror each other. They’re two sides of the same coin. What they want most desperately is to go home, and to be loved by their home, and for going back home- if they can- not to be the worst thing they could possibly do.
Odo forgives Garak for torturing him pretty damn quickly. Not because it’s ok, not because it’s acceptable, but because Garak hated doing it even if it was the path to the only thing he wants. Odo couldn’t be sure that Garak was, as we can see in his scenes with Tain before and after his torture and interrogation of Odo, that Garak didn’t want anyone else to do The Bad Things he was being asked by Tain to do to Odo. He tried to give Odo an out, begged him to lie to him, to just say anything and he could stop but Odo refused until he broke down and admitted something true: that all he wanted was to go home and that home was not DS9. Odo forced Garak to face the fact that he hated the things he was doing to find belonging- Tain’s approval and a place at his side. He wasn’t going to let what Garak was doing be painless. He made it impossible not to acknowledge his conscience in conflict with the belonging he is so deeply desperate for, even if the source of that belonging is evil and will only hurt others and expect them not to care. Odo is fucking stubborn and unyielding and didn’t try to convince Garak he shouldn’t go back to Tain, or that he shouldn’t want it. He just made it impossible for him to sanitise, to distance himself from what he was doing. He refused to make it ok for him to go by not letting Garak save him from Garak’s own actions.
And then in the runabout on the way home they just sort of say, “well fuck… I can’t absolve you of your guilt, but we are both being tested by the same punishment and the same temptation and whatever way we choose we both loose. So unfortunately that means I understand you.”
And then when they get home to Not Quite Home But The Only Place That Can Be (DS9), Odo invites Garak out to eat at the replimat on a regular basis, even though he doesn’t eat, and it’s a sort of turning point, or at least watershed moment for Garak (much like The Wire) that’s one of my absolute favourites of his character arc.
Odo is as much an outsider as Garak.
I think what makes him so fascinating is that Garak can’t be and in the end doesn’t really need to be redeemed for all he’s done, he just needs a place and a time where he can be something else he never was in the past. He doesn’t need to be a good person to be compelling or for us to root for him, we just root for his chance to be exactly where he doesn’t want to be, but that is the only place he can be if not a good person, he doesn’t have to be a bad person either.
And I think Odo realised that if he had never been outside The Great Link, or if he had been cast out as an adult as Garak was instead of a tiny baby puddle of goo, he would have done things just as bad if not worse as Garak had done, and he probably wouldn’t have even come as close to redemption or discovering a different life with better choices as Garak would have. If Odo had been a founder he’d have been a real piece of shit. So even though he hasn’t done the things Garak has, he kind of understand that what he has done isn’t all he has to be and that he’s both profoundly lucky and unlucky that he didn’t learn who his people were when he was younger and have the same problems as Garak did.
Is is possible for me to make any commentary about DS9 without having all the brevity of a Cardassian? Apparently not.
3:34 "Well, the truth is usually just an excuse for a lack of imagination."
This line always comes to mind when I watch "Rocks and Shoals," where a captured Garak starts spinning out a story about how he was a Federation prisoner, then Keevan asks why he was wearing a combadge, to which Garak replies, "I was hoping you weren't going to ask me about that."
Got to love a simple tailor that never put his phaser to stun.
Star Trek was always well known for famous characters who had dubious and complicated characters who were looking for their place in the world they are in. Virtually every season has at least one - Spock in Star Trek, Data in TNG, Odo and Dr Bashir in DS9, EMH in Voyager... But Garak took it all to a completely different level than his predecessors. His background story, despite all the blanks he leaves on purpose, is well known to everybody, and yet he is still a total mystery to everybody.
Gotta love that last one with the implication that he will arrange for Quark to get killed in a manner that he won't know what hit him. And of course Odo's quick conclusion that he must be telling the truth because he's not laying down an elaborate line of bull.
Garak is a type of character that could totally get their own show and it would be amazing. Just like Q.
i for one would totally watch a prequel series, about the recruitment and rise of Garak in the Obsidian Order and larger cardassian military, amidst the backdrop of the bajoran occupation, and the other events of the TNG era, from cardassian's POV. (with afew occasionally recurring set-location reuses of DS9 as terok nor, maybe also afew cameo's from other actors/characters ?)
Should I contact Paramount about this awesome new idea. How do I do that
@@Nutmeg-tu3ur yes you should, but unfortunately, i don't know how someone would even begin to start to approach that task. May you have athousand *Good Luck's* per month, to get there, though.
A Cardassian focused story would work but Q? You would get tired of him in half a season at max, he is better used sparingly
I suspect you'd use "A Stitch In Time" as a reference guide - you could get at least a miniseries from the book alone.
I got to admit that Garak was perhaps my favorite character in the series. He could definitely put the element of intrigue in every episode he was was featured. His cool comedic moments were also a treat.
Garack is one of the best Star Trek characters.
The truth is between here and there. Garrick evovled from a hard core ex obsidian order agent to someone who could show a side of compassion.
I would love to see a limited show of the rebuilding of Cardassia after the Dominion war, with him playing a lead role, showing compassion, yet having to make the hard decisions.
I'd like to think Garak being the duplicitous delight he is ensured he was "merely an adviser" to the civilian council rather than the actual leader and instead chose someone else whilst also insisting on the good Doctor being Ambassador to the New Cardassia.
@@TheWPhilosopher Yes, the power behind the 'throne' so to speak.
@@neil999ish exactly!
Garak is an amazing character! I love DS9 and how Andrew J. Robinson brought him to life.
He's a great actor, whose immortal performance as Scorpio in Dirty Harry left him hopelessly typecast for years. But he has had a decent career. In the late 80's on L.A. Law he portrayed an accused murder defendant on trial who had multiple personality disorder. On the witness stand he began morphing into the different characters. It was masterful. I was happy to see him get this recognition and acclaim for this role in the later stages of his career.
Garak is my favorite character in all of Star Trek. His complex lies and unceasing vigilance, his devastating intelligence and his very real courage make him a unqiue character and I'm so glad to have seen him :]
OMG, Garak is the best character in ALL OF Star Trek 😂 I LOVE HIM
RUclips's autogenerated subtitles say he's "a kardashian by birth" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Well, keeping up with Garak is no easy task.
@@JohnDiMarco yup
Bet he has some clothing that hides that butt...
''do you know what the sad part is odo...
.....I am a very good tailor'' , and in quiet moments when Garak is alone with the fabrics he might spend a thought at what a happy ...simple.. life he could have had as a talented tailor if that was the only talents he trained in
Thank you for your service
Much appreciated!
Who would have thought just a plain simple tailor made DS9 so outstanding
The writing on this show was awesome, especially with the cardasians😮
One thing DS9 had going for it was some top shelf actors. Andrew Robinson was among the very best, and I believe his performances elevated the acting of the people around him. A great portrayal can inspire others to do their damndest to keep up. Nobody wants to look like a block of wood next to a real actor.
One of the best characters throughout the Trek series
No one else in the Star Trek universe is better at sarcasm than Garak!
Great!!! But you miss the most important quote: When he ask 007 Bashir - who pays for this, and doctor answer - agency. "I see that I join he wrong agency."
Crazy how many more disintegrations we saw in DS9.
John DiMarco. Just a plain and simple You Tuber. 🙂
To me, he was the best character of DS9 series. He was so complex on so many levels. He has a secret past, which he refuses to come out. He has unwillingly turned to the side of the good just because of one sole reason - Gul Dukat, And, even then, he never gave up on his past as top Cardassian spy and still played all sides. Along with Q, he is the greatest anti-hero in history of Star Trek.
My two favorite characters of the ST universe are...
1) Q.
2) Garak
I suppose a psychotherapist would consider my choices to be a rich minefield of implications about my moral character...or lack thereof.
Even the false implications? Especially the false ones...
Ah, Mon Capitane.
I wish we'd found out a little more about Garek and Dukuts father. Too much would have ruined it but some more info would have been nice.
Best character ever
I love Garak and Bashair's relationship :)
Garak, Quark, and Gulldcot, my favorite characters
My favorite character of DS9
Garak is one the most dangerous characters on DS9!
Man I love Garak
Bashir: 'How can you be an Outcast/Spy both?'
Apparently 'Burn Notice' never made it past Season 7
I love DS9 My favorite of all
Row, Row, Row your boat, gently down the stream... c'mon sing! SING!
Especially the lies ❤️
I'd love the root beer clip
You'd be surprised of the things you can learn when you're doing alterations 😂😂😂
Nanny- I was in the ungerground
Garrack *with a friendly smile*- Really? Perhaps we have met
Brutal
Just gonna say, without watching the video, that the title is a lie simply because Garak is incapable of being truly plain and simple.
I approve.
especially the lies
One of the most well-written characters on the show.
Paranoia is simply an increased awareness of your surroundings and those in it. We're all paranoid, to some extent.
It was quite an interesting character.
thx
god I love Garak
I love garak
Just a simple tailor!
The only mistake here is the line "...just like the federation." By quark. That part didn't need to be said aloud.
Never underestimate the power of the implication.....
4:58 that interaction is deep
I love how they had Garek wanting to bang Bashir at first
He was a bad guy we all loved
When Ziyal was murdered, it had nothing to do directly with Garak, other than the fact that he was present. It was Damar that killed her as a traitor to Cardassians.
If I were a spy then a tailor is not a bad occupation.
But you cannot act like a tailor. You must become one. With actual skill and knowledge of being a tailor.
Did Quark ever tell Garak he doesn't want to be killed anymore?
Garek : If there's any sign of trouble at all you're on your own
Sisko : Mr Garek, I believe that's the first completely honest thing you've ever said to me
Garek : How perspective of you commander
A simple tailor, plain and simple Garek, just Garek.
It seems to be a coincidence that i'm watching this video today, but I do not trust coincidences. Ps: one of the best characters ever in Star Trek. Since we never know if he tells the truth or a lie.
Garak: "especially the lies" 🤭
Ps ps: hails to the plain simple man Garak the saved the Alpha Quadrant.
He's just a simple tailor.😂
Garak you glorious rascal
Why were people suspicious of this meek, polite tailor?
Garak is basically what DS9 could have been, if the execs had had the balls.
Explain, please.
@@michaelbayer5094 As far as I understood it, DS9 was intended to be more gritty, darker and morally ambiguous than the usual shiny-sparkly Federation against some Enemy (capital L) who would eventually not only be vanquished but be brought over to the side of the Good. And Garak, who doesn't give two strips of gold pressed Latinum for moral niceties was the perfect embodiment of this new, gritty Star Trek. But in the end they went with the old formula. Yes, there is such stuff as In The Pale Moonlight, but the old foundation is still there. And I think the execs, when presented by the creative brains with the new concept basically went: "Yes, but who are the good guys and who are the bad guys? We can't confuse our viewers. Bad for ratings, you know. "
@@TomFynn Thanks for responding.
I remember reading about darker and grittier (probably after DS9 premiered), and I think it was, at least compared to TOS and TNG, even though Ben, Jake, and Kira (and every Bajoran) should have some PTSD. I agree with you on the old formula, but I think that's because the show, writ large, had to maintain the baseline notions of an elite Starfleet and the utopian Federation as a "paradise" as Ben describes it, and he is embodied as its champion. Yet the show constantly challenges those ideals and Ben's idealism. I also think that by serializing DS9, the story played out better than the more episodic TGN, although I sense this heresy among the superfans.
As for Garak himself, a great addition who made every episode better. I had not seen Andrew Robinson in anything except 'Dirty Harry' but he was/is fanatastic. Generally, as the show continued it seems the producers and writers let the actors act. The characters became less wooden. In 'Pale Moonlight' Robinson and Brooks gave superlative performances. It's probably my favorite. Here dark and gritty meant real, and I think DS9 tried to be more real than previous Treks (another heresy?).
Garak was the living proof of the most importanr rule in all of Universe - never trust a Cardassian. Even when you know without a doubt that he is telling the truth.
Garak's voice is unmistakable. Same for Paul Dooley 3:50
why is there a
bible‧babble
at the end?
Plain Simple Garak🤣😆
Moved to Earth and started Torture TV with the Kardashians!
Garak, a Psychopath with Morals ;D
Not sure why the need for a quote from the bible at the end, but there it is.
Not sure why the only comment about it comes from the most notorious priest of the Spanish Inquisition. I was not expecting it (LOL).
What was the point of adding that fairy tale nonsense at the end? :')
I was enjoying the video until the biblical quote at the end.
Thanks for watching.
@@JohnDiMarco Just out of curiosity, why that one? IMO, I find Paul too arrogant for a guy who never met Jesus and was late to the party. Even after getting knocked off his high horse, he rarely displays humility.
@@michaelbayer5094 My selection of that verse was based on the sentiment being expressed rather than the fact that it was written by Paul. Thanks for watching.
@@JohnDiMarco Thanks for your reply.
I enjoyed the video AND the quote at the end. Thanks!