The belt is magical after the smooth first bit and the growl, you just get her driving it home. That's genuinely the reason this song is fantastic for reactions. Also Vlad is ace. They're all on point.
You have just scratched the surface of what Tatiana, the lead singer, can do. I strongly recommend her very recently released Judgement and Punishment - One take vocal video. It's an excellent song to analyze and react to her amazing vocal abilities.
This is everyones favorite for introducing people to Tatiana.....lol.....and she can really pull you in. They are really a tight band when it comes to their music.
in all these years of watching reactions to pisces i am quite certain that even a non fan base of jinjer would show up to recommend other stuff from them lol... this song is basically an anthem for pulling out most shocked expressions of reactors xD
@Professor Manque False vocal folds. It's a well established technique that, done right, will not harm the voice. I've tried a few times in the past but could never master keeping my vocal chords out of it, so I abandoned the effort.
The difference in sounds you're describing with how low and round her sound is, is because she's using false cord growling. It's very different than fry screaming. Both are super common techniques in heavy music. With fry you have to essentially push the air through the vocal folds while they're clamped shut, resulting in a more strained sound. With false cord you are keeping your vocal cords completely open so they don't touch at all. That's why false cord (what she is using here) sounds so round and full and un-feminine, even when high pitched, because it's got very little vocal noise unless it's a conscious decision to use your vocal cords underneath. That's why it's also super easy to switch back and forth between false cord and singing because the vocal cords don't get tired. Just some harsh vocal theory for you in case you're interested :)
I was gonna add to that, because false chords do not produce a "pitch" rather, the change in mouth shape is what determines whether it sounds like a low death growl or high screams.
ryanexsus Yes, I just meant “high pitched” as in higher sounding to the ear. They’re not technically pitched because there’s no vocal noise. But being a harsh vocalist, I can say that it’s a little more than just mouth shape. It’s also based on throat elongation and creation of space at the back of the throat. But yeah mouth shape definitely helps more easily funnel the air to sound higher or lower.
@@spiritlevelstudios TBF, most vocal coaches don't study, or understand much about growls, whether its highs, lows, screams etc. Especially because it is a dangerous technique to learn, when you're not exactly sure on the correct way to do it. Especially if you're living, or future living may come from using your voice.
You're a voice teacher but more importantly ... you appreciate and enjoy music ... you can see it in your reactions ... the laughing and excitement, it's there, and it's real #respect
As a semi-pro Pisces reaction viewer, I always give a thumbs up and a supportive comment for the Tubes. Jinjer and Tatiana are the real deal. Time to dive deeper into the song catalog.
Fun reaction - subbed. The live recording session was actually for their new (in 2017) drummer, most of the vocals are off the album version of the song. That said, I've seen them twice in concert and they are at least as good on stage if not better. It seems like they give 100% in the studio, but 110% on stage for the fans. I'd recommend Judgement & Punishment one-take vocal performance which seems totally raw with even a minor error left in. Perennial live at the Wacken open air festival is also an epic performance but with a bit of post-production tweaking to add some subtle vocal layers that aren't in the bootlegs of the show. Tatiana always loved singing and says she sings almost constantly. She had a few months of lessons in school, but never had the discipline or drive to do anything with her talent until she was 15 and someone introduced her to the music of Otep. She was shocked to learn Otep Shamaya is a woman, and had an intuition that she could shock people like that. She started singing cleans in various bands to build her clean singing foundation when she was 15. Then she started practicing growls at 18, while continuing to do clean singing in a number of bands for another 4 years (Jinjer is her 8th band), before starting to perform with growls in the band she joined shortly before being recruited to join Jinjer. This is just a bit lower than her most comfortable growling range, and she can go significantly lower than this. I'd suggest checking out Pit Of Consciousness live in Kiev at some point to see how low she can go. Kudos for pointing out the skills of the rest of the band. They are all superb musicians. Only Vlad has formal training in music, and he has played a big role in their composition process on the Micro EP and Macro album that they came out with after he joined. Eugene is one of the best bass players in metal, and is also their manager, as well as being a competitive amateur Jujuitsu practitioner who took silver in the Abu Dhabi qualifying tournament in Kiev last year. Roman on guitars is the least flashy, but he is a seemingly endless fount of diverse riffs that are a key aspect of Jinjer's sound. Cheers!
Gotta love the algorithm. After a year of searching on Jinjer reactions daily, I'm still getting ones that are years old. This is a really good one. I love it when knowledgeable musicians have their minds blown by Tatiana and the gang! And you're catching the groove. It's awesome how throughout all those time changes, it grooves hard. The meter changes aren't done for the sake of being weird, like in math rock. They serve the song and augment the expression. It took me a while to figure out that chorus. For a while I thought of it as one long measure of 20. Then I realized 20 is divisible by 4. And sure as hell, it's in 4. It's the craziest 4 I've ever heard. But it's in 4. Rock on, Jinjer Army!
Great reaction. The reason that Tatiana's growls/screams don't have a pitch is because they are voiceless screams. That's also why they don't damage her voice at all. At the low end she's using false cord screams which are done with the vocal folds open and utilize the false vocal folds. Because the vocal folds remain open, false cord screaming usually has a very dark timbre and low sound. Higher up, she uses fry screams which are done with the vocal cords held together under significant compression (but not producing tones) such a that only a narrow stream of air passes through them and up to the false folds and the soft palate, rattling them to produce the sound. Fry screams can be identified by presence of harmonic overtones and a much brighter sound. Floor Jansen of Nightwish can false cord scream as well (Nightwish - Yours is an Empty Hope live Wembley for an exampe) and Devin Townsend is a great and well known fry screamer (Devin Townsend - Kingdom for EMGtv is a good intro to him).
Mike's reaction to Jinjer - Pisces is epic. He was so flabbergasted that he basically completely lost it. If you have not watched him on this video, his reaction is worth it for sure. I bet these reactions are fun for all of you in the profession. You thought you had heard it all. Well....
Jinjer is from Ukraine and were formed in 2009. Every member is an exceptional musician. They are Vlad on drums, Eugene on bass, Roman on guitar, and Tatiana on vocals. Interesting that you pointed out the drummer. This video was done a few years ago and Vlad had just joined the band. This song was on their album recorded before he joined but they loved what he did with it that the decided to do the video to feature their new drummer.
So nice! Everything in this man says that he is happy only because such a singer exists! His voice, intonations, body language, face language, gestures... and of course the analysis itself shows that he is a wonderful teacher! Bravo! And Tatyana, of course - super!
Metal vocalist here, came to the comments to talk about false chord growling but got beat to the punch by ViktoriaVision lol. There is a bit more to false chord growling as far as technique goes, good breath support is very important as is placement in order to do it without hurting yourself; I did see that you caught that she's lowering her larynx as part of this. Been enjoying the reactions man, if you'd like a good example of a male vocalist doing both singing and growling of this type, I'd like to suggest the band Opeth - Harlequin Forest Live at the Royal Albert Hall
Tatiana is a metal goddess. She is a vocal beast. She will devour you. I am glad you mentioned the band, they are super talented and the guitars and drums get over looked, they are amazing.
Watching reacters, for years, have out of body experiences the first time they see this (like everyone does) has been one of the great, unexpected pleasures of my life. lmao It never gets old.
Watching reactions of this song is my new hobby, since today, though your the first channel that got to subscribe during the watching. Your explanations are great. :D
Hahaha, of course you know Mike! Been following him for a while now. It never gets old, the first reaction to Tatiana. She recently released a play through of Judgement And Punishment which is remarkable. Also Teacher Teacher and I Speak Astronomy are a must. Tati was singing jazz before she got into growling, which is part of what makes her so awesome I think.
You're awesome man, great reaction. If you wanna check out more Jinjer- Perennial live is really good. Also 2 songs I love the videos too- I Speak Astronomy and Retrospection. Also if you haven't done any Tool the song Sober live '93 is always a reaction hit to start.
You should check out more women singing guttural tones like that. I recommend one of the entrepreneurs of women in this genre. Angela Gossow with Arch Enemy singing 'Bloodstained Cross' Official video, or 'Nemesis' Live in Japan 2008. (Floor Jansen from Nightwish can also sing guttural)
Hehe! I always love your analyses but this time your reaction was exceptional hilarious too! I saw Jinjer live last year and IMHO they are absolute top notch live, in musicality and in energy on stage! One little fact to give your another little shock: Tatiana had never a vocal coach or singing lessons except a few when she was around 8 and got fast bored by this. So welcome to the next fantastic rabbit hole ! 😁😁
Really appreciate that you noticed and discussed their use of different time signatures. Maybe only one other reaction-er/reviewer has toughed on that. I'm still a music noobie but was noticing something about it and was having a challenge nailing down what it was.
One of the best reactions and analyses I've seen. The way you break down how she's doing the screams you CLEARLY know your technical stuff sir! Most voice teachers I've seen reacting to it are just clueless when it comes to these types of vocals. Glad you picked up and commented on the time changes, the rest of the band, and especially the drummer as I've heard they made this video to showcase him when he joined the band. I do hope you look more into them as while this song is a great introduction to Jinjer, it only scratches the surface of what they're capable of, especially Tatiana.
I have listened to many screamers lately, side by side and NONE are better than Tati, male or female. Some MAY BE as good but none are better add in her beautiful clean voice and you have a truly unique artist!
FINALLY! The video I was looking for. Yeah, the vocals are bonkers, but I wanted to know what was going on with the meter - and look who picked up on THAT aspect of the song! Not the drummer guy I listed to, but John Henny, Vocal Coach. One of my favorite videos on youtube is your first time listening to Jacob Collier, and I love it because you reminded me what music appreciation is all about. And look who's doing it on this recording!
I love it when vocal teachers know more than just voice stuff. You know stuff about instruments and music in general, while many people will just lock in with the vocals. Killer reaction
John - We got Mike with it, so he's paying it forward! Did you know Floor Jansen from Nightwish can growl too? Try "Nightwish - Yours Is An Empty Hope - live from Wembley 2015". 🤘
Yours is about the sixth reaction I've watched of this singer/this song. It's funny EVERY female voice coach I have watched so far looks like they are literally in pain watching that transition...you look amazed, then wowed, then just diggin' it with a big smile. I will have to look up some other male vocal coach reactions and see if there's a trend.
@@JohnHennyVocalStudio The trend held pretty solidly over the three or so I watched. Might have been skewed a bit to the supportive side in that one teacher/coach had previously seen the clip, and at least two others were familiar with metal techniques and teach similar types of singing methods. They were still pretty rocked by the transition, though, the ones who hadn't previously seen it. Evidently she is very good at it. If you get a chance watch a couple of the women's versions, they really are funny. I really haven't seen all that many transitions in music that are as abrupt and unexpected as that one, coming at it as someone clueless about her or the band, and mostly even the genre, in my case. It was cool.
Please continu doing more JINJER reaction videos like (PERENNIAL)live in wacken 2019 & (WHO IS GOING TO BE THE ONE)Live.you also might like some of there old school stuff like (OUTLANDER) & ( SCISSORS). Thank you! ENJOY!!!
I love watching someone that truly appreciates the ability of this band and Tatiana. Even if this is not your genre of music, there is no denying how fantastic this is.
A Jinjer video that came out a couple of weeks ago is a one take vocal performance by Tatiana, the bands singer. It's called Judgment & Punishment (one take vocal)...Would love to hear your analysis of that one. Thx for an excellent reaction to the phenomenally talented band.
Nobody expects the vocal fry! Thats what makes these reactions to Pisces so fun, seeing other people having the same reaction as you did the first time seeing this video and hearing Tatianna sing.
Fantastic reaction! I love it when I see someone react to this video who understands how technically talented Tatiana really is vocally and how great the band is!
Good professional reaction. Welcome to Jinjer planet. Though Pisces is a nice place to start, you will have to explore much more. Both the band and Tatiana really deserve it.
This is the absolutely best reaction, you know the timestamps and seems to me that you're familiar with how to produce different vocals, growl, headnotes etc. Great job!
Hey John, great reaction! I can't believe it's been a year and you haven't revisited Jinjer. You really need to react to them live. Please react to either Who Is Gonna Be The One Live or Perennial Live At Wacken 2019 to really appreciate Tatina's vocals.
Mike was right. The shock value is what this song is about as far as reactions go. After you dive into a few of the highly recommended tracks i would say throw in "Retrospection" a lot of great vocal transitions and she opens the song in russian
Welcome to the world of Jinjer. Think you’ll like Perennial live at Wacken. Great performance. They really don’t have a bad song, so you’ll be fine whichever one you do next. Thanks again.
Just the amount of energy she brings is incredible. If you watch her live performance of Perennial at Wacken, its the last song of the set and she still has intense energy throughout the song.
Now this is one of my favorite reaction videos! He is getting so close to my own thoughts, especially concerning those unbelievable energetic belting part.
Tatiana is so amazing... Jinjer as a whole is freaking amazing. 😍 I never get tired of watching reactions to this song. My favorite song of theirs is "Just Another"
Both you and Mike have very honest and fun reactions. Thank you for including discussion on metre and the technical skill of the rest of the band. It often goes overlooked when people see and hear Tatiana for the first time. I've been a fan of Jinjer since their first album and seen them live 3 times. They do not disappoint! 🤘😁
So glad Mike turned you onto this one. Mike's reactions are fantastic and his enthusiasm is unreal. You bring a similar joy and exuberance into listening. Thank you. Cheers
dude your reaction is great. you recognize it's SKILL and not writing it off as demonic. love the intro videos to jinjer. as someone who loves metal(or djent in this case) her vocals are so clear to understand.
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I've been watching reactions to this video for over a year now, and, it has yet to stop being entertaining.
reactions are my favourite way to watch Jinjer film clips
I'm on year 3 and it's still entertaining.
Right?!
Same, same! I love it!
Me to 😄
"this is not your typical pop song" - Hahahahahaha!
After watching like 20 reactions to this song, you're the first one who caught the time signature variation throughout the song. Big props
Yesssss I noticed that to, I'm so glad someone finally mentioned how quickly they can change the signature. They're incredible.
Oh shit. Its my man Dev
"That's a killer belt!"
My favorite part of every reaction is the acknowledgement of that "3rd" voice :)
Goosebumps every time. Undeniably impressive talent.
The belt is magical after the smooth first bit and the growl, you just get her driving it home. That's genuinely the reason this song is fantastic for reactions. Also Vlad is ace. They're all on point.
You have just scratched the surface of what Tatiana, the lead singer, can do. I strongly recommend her very recently released Judgement and Punishment - One take vocal video. It's an excellent song to analyze and react to her amazing vocal abilities.
epic recording and there doesn't seem to be any editing
Agreed, its a great showcase of her talent.
Was about to write same :D
Yes, this one. It's the new must-watch with Tatiana.
I agree with this,
This is everyones favorite for introducing people to Tatiana.....lol.....and she can really pull you in. They are really a tight band when it comes to their music.
"I'm sure the fan base will show up below." You have NO idea.
in all these years of watching reactions to pisces i am quite certain that even a non fan base of jinjer would show up to recommend other stuff from them lol... this song is basically an anthem for pulling out most shocked expressions of reactors xD
I always love the "how is she getting so low", then I think, you really should hear "Who is going to be the one" for low!
Home back goes even lower..
Professor Manque it is very much her own voice..
Professor Manque check them live.... perennial, live at wacken... you will see...
@Professor Manque False vocal folds. It's a well established technique that, done right, will not harm the voice. I've tried a few times in the past but could never master keeping my vocal chords out of it, so I abandoned the effort.
@Professor Manque absolutely her own voice. Seen them in concert. Check out the song Who is going to be the one live and see for yourself.
The difference in sounds you're describing with how low and round her sound is, is because she's using false cord growling. It's very different than fry screaming. Both are super common techniques in heavy music. With fry you have to essentially push the air through the vocal folds while they're clamped shut, resulting in a more strained sound. With false cord you are keeping your vocal cords completely open so they don't touch at all. That's why false cord (what she is using here) sounds so round and full and un-feminine, even when high pitched, because it's got very little vocal noise unless it's a conscious decision to use your vocal cords underneath. That's why it's also super easy to switch back and forth between false cord and singing because the vocal cords don't get tired. Just some harsh vocal theory for you in case you're interested :)
I was gonna add to that, because false chords do not produce a "pitch" rather, the change in mouth shape is what determines whether it sounds like a low death growl or high screams.
ryanexsus Yes, I just meant “high pitched” as in higher sounding to the ear. They’re not technically pitched because there’s no vocal noise. But being a harsh vocalist, I can say that it’s a little more than just mouth shape. It’s also based on throat elongation and creation of space at the back of the throat. But yeah mouth shape definitely helps more easily funnel the air to sound higher or lower.
Cheers. This is the kind of information I expected from the actual video.
@@spiritlevelstudios TBF, most vocal coaches don't study, or understand much about growls, whether its highs, lows, screams etc. Especially because it is a dangerous technique to learn, when you're not exactly sure on the correct way to do it. Especially if you're living, or future living may come from using your voice.
@Ben Höflinger Aw thanks. No I don’t make videos - too shy haha.
HAHAHA, YOU'VE BEEN JINJER ROLLED!!!
(I wonder why no one has thought of this before) : )
The Jinjer Bucket Challenge
Lol
You're a voice teacher but more importantly ... you appreciate and enjoy music ... you can see it in your reactions ... the laughing and excitement, it's there, and it's real #respect
Nothing like being set up by a friend LOL
As a semi-pro Pisces reaction viewer, I always give a thumbs up and a supportive comment for the Tubes.
Jinjer and Tatiana are the real deal. Time to dive deeper into the song catalog.
"semi pro Pisces reaction viewer" I'm fucking dead
@@crazymexipanda I just wish I got paid for the job :)
Welcome to the rabbit hole of Jinjer, as everyone will tell you it is an amazing ride.
If you’d like to get an idea of Tatiana’s versatility, react to Jinjer’s song “Teacher, Teacher. Epic
I love teacher, teacher
They have a mountain of good songs. but Teacher Teacher stands at the peak.
BTW, the guys at Napalm Records released an official live version for *Teacher, Teacher!* a couple of weeks ago.
Dude the way she switches for "slapping slapping" never fails to surprise me
Fun reaction - subbed. The live recording session was actually for their new (in 2017) drummer, most of the vocals are off the album version of the song. That said, I've seen them twice in concert and they are at least as good on stage if not better. It seems like they give 100% in the studio, but 110% on stage for the fans. I'd recommend Judgement & Punishment one-take vocal performance which seems totally raw with even a minor error left in. Perennial live at the Wacken open air festival is also an epic performance but with a bit of post-production tweaking to add some subtle vocal layers that aren't in the bootlegs of the show.
Tatiana always loved singing and says she sings almost constantly. She had a few months of lessons in school, but never had the discipline or drive to do anything with her talent until she was 15 and someone introduced her to the music of Otep. She was shocked to learn Otep Shamaya is a woman, and had an intuition that she could shock people like that. She started singing cleans in various bands to build her clean singing foundation when she was 15. Then she started practicing growls at 18, while continuing to do clean singing in a number of bands for another 4 years (Jinjer is her 8th band), before starting to perform with growls in the band she joined shortly before being recruited to join Jinjer. This is just a bit lower than her most comfortable growling range, and she can go significantly lower than this. I'd suggest checking out Pit Of Consciousness live in Kiev at some point to see how low she can go.
Kudos for pointing out the skills of the rest of the band. They are all superb musicians. Only Vlad has formal training in music, and he has played a big role in their composition process on the Micro EP and Macro album that they came out with after he joined. Eugene is one of the best bass players in metal, and is also their manager, as well as being a competitive amateur Jujuitsu practitioner who took silver in the Abu Dhabi qualifying tournament in Kiev last year. Roman on guitars is the least flashy, but he is a seemingly endless fount of diverse riffs that are a key aspect of Jinjer's sound. Cheers!
Thanks.
“So ... I did not see that coming ... at all.”
No one does. That’s why we love recommending it to people who do these reactions.
Gotta love the algorithm. After a year of searching on Jinjer reactions daily, I'm still getting ones that are years old. This is a really good one. I love it when knowledgeable musicians have their minds blown by Tatiana and the gang!
And you're catching the groove. It's awesome how throughout all those time changes, it grooves hard. The meter changes aren't done for the sake of being weird, like in math rock. They serve the song and augment the expression.
It took me a while to figure out that chorus. For a while I thought of it as one long measure of 20. Then I realized 20 is divisible by 4. And sure as hell, it's in 4. It's the craziest 4 I've ever heard. But it's in 4.
Rock on, Jinjer Army!
Great reaction. The reason that Tatiana's growls/screams don't have a pitch is because they are voiceless screams.
That's also why they don't damage her voice at all. At the low end she's using false cord screams which are done with the vocal folds open and utilize the false vocal folds. Because the vocal folds remain open, false cord screaming usually has a very dark timbre and low sound.
Higher up, she uses fry screams which are done with the vocal cords held together under significant compression (but not producing tones) such a that only a narrow stream of air passes through them and up to the false folds and the soft palate, rattling them to produce the sound. Fry screams can be identified by presence of harmonic overtones and a much brighter sound.
Floor Jansen of Nightwish can false cord scream as well (Nightwish - Yours is an Empty Hope live Wembley for an exampe) and Devin Townsend is a great and well known fry screamer (Devin Townsend - Kingdom for EMGtv is a good intro to him).
Hi! I suggest you Jinjer - Perennial (live at Wacken Open Air 2019). It's incredible!!
YT Vocal coach: She has a nice voice, kinda poppy
Jinjer fans: Wait for it.........
YT VC: 😲😲😲😵😵😵
Jinjer fans: Thank you Tatiana!
Mike's reaction to Jinjer - Pisces is epic. He was so flabbergasted that he basically completely lost it. If you have not watched him on this video, his reaction is worth it for sure. I bet these reactions are fun for all of you in the profession. You thought you had heard it all. Well....
That song is spine-tingling soft harmony.
I've watched an embarrassingly large number of Pisces reaction videos and yours was one of the most genuine and enjoyable to watch.
been watching these for a while, but i think you're the first to also note timings and the work of the rest of the band
Jinjer is from Ukraine and were formed in 2009. Every member is an exceptional musician. They are Vlad on drums, Eugene on bass, Roman on guitar, and Tatiana on vocals. Interesting that you pointed out the drummer. This video was done a few years ago and Vlad had just joined the band. This song was on their album recorded before he joined but they loved what he did with it that the decided to do the video to feature their new drummer.
So nice!
Everything in this man says that he is happy only because such a singer exists!
His voice, intonations, body language, face language, gestures... and of course the analysis itself shows that he is a wonderful teacher! Bravo!
And Tatyana, of course - super!
Awesome reaction!
Next step should be Devin Townsend "Kingdom" for EMGTV
Metal vocalist here, came to the comments to talk about false chord growling but got beat to the punch by ViktoriaVision lol. There is a bit more to false chord growling as far as technique goes, good breath support is very important as is placement in order to do it without hurting yourself; I did see that you caught that she's lowering her larynx as part of this.
Been enjoying the reactions man, if you'd like a good example of a male vocalist doing both singing and growling of this type, I'd like to suggest the band Opeth - Harlequin Forest Live at the Royal Albert Hall
I lost track of how many reactions to this song I‘ve seen so far - but yours is one of the best!
Great reaction. Just finished watching Mike's reaction to Devin Townsend. I think his jaw is still on the desk. Speak to him about it. Brilliant
Tatiana is a metal goddess. She is a vocal beast. She will devour you. I am glad you mentioned the band, they are super talented and the guitars and drums get over looked, they are amazing.
Tatiana can get lower than that. Perennial live at Wacken and Judgement & Punishment one take are more recent examples of her vocals.
Her lowest I've heard was Pit of Consciousness live at Kiev. It's crazy!
Nice reaction! You should check out Perennial live at Wacken, to see how amazing Jinjer is in concert.
Now you have to check out Perennial live at Wacken and the recently released one take recording of Judgement and Punishment.
Watching reacters, for years, have out of body experiences the first time they see this (like everyone does) has been one of the great, unexpected pleasures of my life. lmao It never gets old.
One of the best reactions I’ve seen from vocal teachers.
I am so glad you were digging that along with all of us. I love her, and watching you rock out with it and enjoy the surprise was really fun.
Watching reactions of this song is my new hobby, since today, though your the first channel that got to subscribe during the watching. Your explanations are great. :D
got me to subscribe* (missed a word there :) )
The band and her flawlessly switching between that soft sound into the harder sound is just amazing
I learn a lot watching John reacting and breking down the techniques
Hahaha, of course you know Mike! Been following him for a while now. It never gets old, the first reaction to Tatiana. She recently released a play through of Judgement And Punishment which is remarkable. Also Teacher Teacher and I Speak Astronomy are a must. Tati was singing jazz before she got into growling, which is part of what makes her so awesome I think.
You're awesome man, great reaction. If you wanna check out more Jinjer- Perennial live is really good. Also 2 songs I love the videos too- I Speak Astronomy and Retrospection. Also if you haven't done any Tool the song Sober live '93 is always a reaction hit to start.
You should check out more women singing guttural tones like that. I recommend one of the entrepreneurs of women in this genre. Angela Gossow with Arch Enemy singing 'Bloodstained Cross' Official video, or 'Nemesis' Live in Japan 2008. (Floor Jansen from Nightwish can also sing guttural)
Nemesis in Tokyo 2008 is a classic.
Good job. The enthusiasm and joy in your body language and voice are infectious.
I love your reaction. Enthusiasm and intellect combined. I'd imagine you are an amazing teacher
Hehe! I always love your analyses but this time your reaction was exceptional hilarious too! I saw Jinjer live last year and IMHO they are absolute top notch live, in musicality and in energy on stage! One little fact to give your another little shock: Tatiana had never a vocal coach or singing lessons except a few when she was around 8 and got fast bored by this.
So welcome to the next fantastic rabbit hole ! 😁😁
Every now and then I go a month or so without watching a Jinjer - Pisces react video.. but RUclips keeps pulling me back in. Good stuff.
This is the best reaction so far for this song/band. Wonderful that you didn’t question her being capable of doing the metal screaming. ❤️
welcome to the jinjer rabbit hole.!! be sure to be floored another whole bunch of times. this band is nothing but exceptional.!!
Really appreciate that you noticed and discussed their use of different time signatures. Maybe only one other reaction-er/reviewer has toughed on that. I'm still a music noobie but was noticing something about it and was having a challenge nailing down what it was.
What we have here is a consummate vocalist and a precision oriented band.
Roll over Beethoven!! A pleasure to watch your reaction. Thank you
Jinjer judgments and punishments 1 take vid. Its a must watch
One of the best reactions and analyses I've seen. The way you break down how she's doing the screams you CLEARLY know your technical stuff sir! Most voice teachers I've seen reacting to it are just clueless when it comes to these types of vocals. Glad you picked up and commented on the time changes, the rest of the band, and especially the drummer as I've heard they made this video to showcase him when he joined the band. I do hope you look more into them as while this song is a great introduction to Jinjer, it only scratches the surface of what they're capable of, especially Tatiana.
Anytime I see a new one of these I have to watch it, even if I was planning on calling it a night beforehand
So glad you were able to get this one. Please consider Perennial live or her latest RUclips offering judgment and punishment one take. Thanks.
I have listened to many screamers lately, side by side and NONE are better than Tati, male or female. Some MAY BE as good but none are better add in her beautiful clean voice and you have a truly unique artist!
I just watched you on a compilation reacting to this video and had to come watch the whole thing as you were my favorite reactor 🥰
i love how you and Mike pointed out the drummer, his shades is just brutal , amazing drummer work. Great to see the recognition :)
Omg I looooove your reaction to Jinjer!
More please? Thank you!
FINALLY! The video I was looking for. Yeah, the vocals are bonkers, but I wanted to know what was going on with the meter - and look who picked up on THAT aspect of the song! Not the drummer guy I listed to, but John Henny, Vocal Coach. One of my favorite videos on youtube is your first time listening to Jacob Collier, and I love it because you reminded me what music appreciation is all about. And look who's doing it on this recording!
I love it when vocal teachers know more than just voice stuff. You know stuff about instruments and music in general, while many people will just lock in with the vocals. Killer reaction
Tatiana is a self taught goddess!. Saw her live back in 18 in Spokane was incredible... trying to go this November in Boston we shall see
John - We got Mike with it, so he's paying it forward! Did you know Floor Jansen from Nightwish can growl too? Try "Nightwish - Yours Is An Empty Hope - live from Wembley 2015". 🤘
Great reaction, I'm gonna suggest checking out the live one take of judgement and punishment or the Perennial live at Wacken performance next.
Yours is about the sixth reaction I've watched of this singer/this song. It's funny EVERY female voice coach I have watched so far looks like they are literally in pain watching that transition...you look amazed, then wowed, then just diggin' it with a big smile. I will have to look up some other male vocal coach reactions and see if there's a trend.
Let me know what you find.
@@JohnHennyVocalStudio The trend held pretty solidly over the three or so I watched. Might have been skewed a bit to the supportive side in that one teacher/coach had previously seen the clip, and at least two others were familiar with metal techniques and teach similar types of singing methods. They were still pretty rocked by the transition, though, the ones who hadn't previously seen it. Evidently she is very good at it. If you get a chance watch a couple of the women's versions, they really are funny.
I really haven't seen all that many transitions in music that are as abrupt and unexpected as that one, coming at it as someone clueless about her or the band, and mostly even the genre, in my case.
It was cool.
I see you've met our queen.
Dude, you are such a genuine guy - love your style and your attitude ! And you clearly know a lot about vocals and music!
Please continu doing more JINJER reaction videos like (PERENNIAL)live in wacken 2019 & (WHO IS GOING TO BE THE ONE)Live.you also might like some of there old school stuff like (OUTLANDER) & ( SCISSORS). Thank you! ENJOY!!!
I second these choices/songs...
Love the background on your set!
I love watching someone that truly appreciates the ability of this band and Tatiana. Even if this is not your genre of music, there is no denying how fantastic this is.
A Jinjer video that came out a couple of weeks ago is a one take vocal performance by Tatiana, the bands singer. It's called Judgment & Punishment (one take vocal)...Would love to hear your analysis of that one. Thx for an excellent reaction to the phenomenally talented band.
Nobody expects the vocal fry!
Thats what makes these reactions to Pisces so fun, seeing other people having the same reaction as you did the first time seeing this video and hearing Tatianna sing.
Fantastic reaction! I love it when I see someone react to this video who understands how technically talented Tatiana really is vocally and how great the band is!
These reactions never get old. Please check more of them!!
It's my new hobby watching jinjer reactions... It's just too good
Good professional reaction. Welcome to Jinjer planet. Though Pisces is a nice place to start, you will have to explore much more. Both the band and Tatiana really deserve it.
This is the absolutely best reaction, you know the timestamps and seems to me that you're familiar with how to produce different vocals, growl, headnotes etc. Great job!
Tati is amazing. Check out the 1 take of Judgement and Punishment from a few weeks ago. Have seen them in person twice, her and the band deliver.
Hey John, great reaction! I can't believe it's been a year and you haven't revisited Jinjer. You really need to react to them live. Please react to either Who Is Gonna Be The One Live or Perennial Live At Wacken 2019 to really appreciate Tatina's vocals.
Mike was right. The shock value is what this song is about as far as reactions go. After you dive into a few of the highly recommended tracks i would say throw in "Retrospection" a lot of great vocal transitions and she opens the song in russian
Welcome to the world of Jinjer. Think you’ll like Perennial live at Wacken. Great performance. They really don’t have a bad song, so you’ll be fine whichever one you do next. Thanks again.
Came here right after Mike Goodrich's video! Like someone else said, Vocal teachers reacting to Jinjer - Pisces is a whole genre XD
Just the amount of energy she brings is incredible. If you watch her live performance of Perennial at Wacken, its the last song of the set and she still has intense energy throughout the song.
I love your reactions, John... Watching your head explode when something awesome happens is why I keep coming back...
I’m really glad Mike turned you onto this. I only recently found out you guys are friends, and it makes so much sense.
Epic face at 3:16!
Now this is one of my favorite reaction videos! He is getting so close to my own thoughts, especially concerning those unbelievable energetic belting part.
Welcome to the Jinjer family, all hail queen Tati and her amazing boys !
Tremendous reaction man, love the insight
Tatiana is so amazing... Jinjer as a whole is freaking amazing. 😍 I never get tired of watching reactions to this song. My favorite song of theirs is "Just Another"
Mike's having a chuckle right now cos he knew you wouldn't 'be prepared'!
Judgement and punishment by Jinjer is even more of a trip highly recommend
Both you and Mike have very honest and fun reactions. Thank you for including discussion on metre and the technical skill of the rest of the band. It often goes overlooked when people see and hear Tatiana for the first time. I've been a fan of Jinjer since their first album and seen them live 3 times. They do not disappoint! 🤘😁
The whole band is absolutely brilliant.❤️❤️❤️
So glad Mike turned you onto this one. Mike's reactions are fantastic and his enthusiasm is unreal. You bring a similar joy and exuberance into listening. Thank you. Cheers
Not much to add. As you can see from all the comments, this band has a strong following and love. Hope you join the army.
Truly phenomenal band! Tatiana is amazingly talented. I love judgement and punishment one take!
dude your reaction is great. you recognize it's SKILL and not writing it off as demonic. love the intro videos to jinjer. as someone who loves metal(or djent in this case) her vocals are so clear to understand.
Check out Judgement and Punishment. The one take vocals video where it’s just Tatiana and you will really enjoy it!
Now you should react to their song "Perennial" (Live at Wacken Open Air 2019).