I think the hierarchy list makes sense as well as I know I felt bad for Blitzo being insulted by that Kraken mom and her kid, but that’s sadly most likely a daily occurrence.😢 Also, given that Sinners are immortal but have a poor quality of life overall, it makes a lot of sense too that they’d treat the native demons horribly since kicking someone they see as lower down would likely boost their own sense of superiority.😞 I’m also willing to bet the lack of migration to the Envy ring means they have the fewest crossbreed species, making them feel more “Purebred.”🤔
@@anaemiliaalmeida7238 That’s why people are using the term “Kraken” because she’s a sea demon and a Karen.😉😂 I don’t know who started using it but I find it hilarious.😆
Let me just organize the demon species of what hell is- Pride❤: Sinners/Overlords. Wrath🧡: Imps. Gluttony💛: Hellhounds. Greed💚: Shark-like demons/demonesses. Lust💙: Incubi /Succubi. Envy💜: Sea-snake demons/demonesses. Sloth💝: Goat-like demons/demonesses.
I'd honestly love to be a succubus or sinner demon. You'd be immortal as a sinner demon, and if you got to overlord status power. But as a succubus you'd get to travel to other rings, to the surface WITH human disguises, AND your boss would be Asmodeus. Win win.
Being in hell, even as a native, is shown constantly to be awful for the inhabitants in the show. It's like constant bullshit they need to deal with and never ending work.
I made this head cannon idea of how much water for each ring of hell has: #7 - Wrath ring 4.1%. Since most of Wrath is showed to be very dry it makes sense it’s has the least amount of water, and having very high droughts. #6 - Pride ring 10.89%. Despite having the second least amount of water, Pride might have rivers and small oceans but aren’t as big as the lower rings. #5 - Gluttony ring 18%. Due to its tropical theme shown in the currently unreleased episode 8 it’s possible that Gluttony would have beaches, and would have some oceans. #4 - Lust ring 34.69%. Lust is where we are seeing more water in hell, due to it’s almost endless rain possibly water leaking from Greed. #3 - Sloth ring 50%. When we first saw Sloth we also got what seemed to be endless water falls from Envy possibly and what both the floor of sloth and hell it’s self would be an ocean beyond the horizon. #2 - Greed ring 71%. Greed was told to have the nearest ocean, and just like earth it would have the same amount of way hold the ring, it’s also one of the two’s other being Envy ring we get to see some types of sea creatures with the latter having more variety. #1 - Envy ring 97.46. Out of all the rings of hell Envy has the largest amount of water, with very few islands and continents. And home to many sea demons, it makes sense why Envy has the largest ocean. Do you happen to like this head cannon?
This could actually make sense, since the envy demons we've seen in Western Energy act like they came from a "really exclusive community". So the envy ring might be as you say, mostly water, making the inhabitants of that place like in a sort of "gated community", away from the rest of the other demons since most of them are land walkers (such as imps, hellhounds and succubus.)
I think that Imps started in Greed, some in Wrath, those are the ones like Moxxie’s mum and Striker, with orange skin, and years of inbreeding for the first colonists made them shorter and shorter, yet some moved back to Greed. Then some Greed imps migrated to Lust, obtaining wings from Succubus. Then some migrating to Pride, gaining shorter horns.
This video has sparked an interest of mine: Where there are social, economic and political classes, there have existed people, groups and movements trying to abolish these classes. It would be interesting to see a character or even a whole faction within Hell that wants to abolish it’s classist system, possibly through an uprising or even a full-on revolution by lower class demons and others sympathetic to their cause. It would be even more interesting to see the reactions of characters like Charlie, IMP, Stolas and others, as well as their stances on the matter and who they side with.
@@JamesDavy2009 Well, he says he hates royals… but he works for a royal and also talks to Moxxie (another one of his kind) as if he was lesser than him. It’s clears that his Anti-Goetia speeches are merely a facade.
(IN OVERALL POWER DISREGARDING PHYSICAL STRENGTH) Crimson is probably the strongest Imp there is in hell as he has power over the lone sharks who are a higher species than him and what we saw he is capable of doing in the Moxxie Mother flashbacks and he mafia boss. above Striker who I’d say is second as he has angelic weaponry and Blitzø Third as he can travel to the main realm but does not posses any angelic weaponry. I like how Crimson is presented as intimidating as well, sets the feeling for mafia boss.
I wouldn't call crimson strong physically since he didn't wanna face Millie by himself but financing he probably is the strongest since he has connections and money
Eh I like to think of him as a poser crimson is a imp who lives and acts and behaves how a royal acts he doesn’t seem to genuinely respect imps or any kind give by he had just about every type of hell born on his wall teeth , horns , wings he treated them like trash so he can act like he’s something he’s not
Blitzo certainly wasn’t kidding when he said that Imps from the Wrath Ring are small. Striker’s mariachi band and the employees in that upper-class coffee shop are practically pygmy in size compared to the others.
I think it’s possible that Lilith might also have some roll on why Sinners are above most native born as well. I mean she is technically a sinner so her being a queen of hell /wife of Lucifer might be part of the reasons sinners are in the middle of the hierarchy. Although it’s also very possible that higher ups, maybe even herself, choose to forget that fact. I really hope that in Helluva boss we get more info on the Ars Goetia/Seven Deadly Sins origins though. Because it sounds like Lucifer is the only Fallen Angel as opposed to having multiple fallen angels that turned into demons.
Given this setting is *Hell,* and such things are not uncommon IRL, it would not surprise me to learn that "aging out" of a Hellhound pound involves euthanasia.
Not to mention that, if there's any threat of a population issue in the rest of Hell (aside from Pride), due to overbreeding, the pounds may employ officers trained specifically to bring in runaways, abandoned pups, or even (if the situation is bad enough) lost pups who've been separated from their parents. Any minor found unattended on the streets would be fair game to throw into what-is-essentially a system that has all the worst traits of human prison and inhumane animal shelters (potentially complete with a Death Row if my other conjecture is accurate).
In the lead up to Hazbin could you do a video on speculating Charlie’s possible relationship dynamic with Lucifer or Lucifer’s relationship to the main Hazbin cast?
Ok, can I mention a thing I noticed for any fellow Invader Zim fans? have you noticed the way imps are treated varies HEAVILY on their height? Not unlike the Irkens where the "Allmighty tallest" were their empire's leaders? I know Viv used to be a fan at least somewhat. Think Imp status could have taken a note from that? Cause where Imps like Striker and Blitzo and Fizzaroli (and potentially Verosika if Succubi are a type of Imp) are very tall they seem to have more physical powers and more status than most. Millie is kind of an exception, but Moxxie (being about medium sized also) Only has the skills and strength he does because of his specific upbringing. Most Imps are about their size and vary in strength skill and status, but there is something about particularly tall or tiny imps that tands out as we saw the particularly tiny imps are made to be butlers and even pets, so I wonder if height plays a role in their status like it does the Irken and if that's a coincidence or not.
The idea of lilith in this setting is a curious 1, since this is based on judeo-christian mythology. Lilith in mythology was technically human, created alongside adam as his original opposite. In this setting, that would make her an earthborn sinner, except that lilith can't die in mythology, she wasn't around at the time eve and adam partook of the forbidden fruit and thus wasn't part of the punishment god bestowed upon them in removing their immortality. So lilith, if she is the same 1 from mythology would fall into a strange category, earthborn sinner that never died originally, has the original strength and power of those created directly by god. This really makes me think she's the most dangerous thing in the series
So, I think this would be my list from lowest to highest at this point (I think Imps and hellhounds are just so slightly apart, so they are grouped together, same for the rest of the hellborns) Imps Hellhounds Sucubi Goat Demons LoneSharks Deep Sea Demons Sinners Overlords Goetia The Seven Deadly Sins Charlie Lilith Lucifer
I think Hellhounds rank slightly lower than imps due to them being percieved as dumber, too aggressive etc. They make for excellent muscle, being stronger than imps but not much other. (And that's the role we've seen them in so far). Imps can at least do just about any kind of job. Whether that'd be construction, killing, farming etc.
All I know is the sinners that go to hell are considered higher standards then the residents of hell itself... How? They are under the Overlord's Of Hell
Because sinners are are "immortal" (they can still be killed, but it is temporary and they go through a regeneration process). Plus if a sinner is powerful enough, they can become an overlord as well
I think blitzo is from the greed ring due to him being born into a circus lifestyle and we see him most often in the greed ring during flashbacks of his past
I really hope the envy ring is explored in this season. It sounds like such a good concept with any unique new features so vastly different from the other rings, but it’s literally never been seen
Main thing about sinners and overlords would be for me that they are stuck in pride ring. their hierarchy makes sense only there because if one, like said Karen, would never leave compounds of her compy life, staying only in three rings worth Visiting. Lulu World may be the only thing worth seeing in the Pride Ring for the Caren and she would still require to not mingle with people she would see below her and I believe that deep-sea deamons see themselves as the highest class except for royality. Objetively hierarchy makes sense but I doubt they see it this way
I love the design of Stolas specifically, and I would love to be apart of the ars goetia, but I also love the designs of imps. Like I love their little tails and horns and I also love Moxxie’s little legs specifically. They’re both my favorite species.
Angels are by their very nature stronger.. Even the Cherubs can't technically be killed by most things in hell. And their angelic weaponry can kill Sinners and Demon Royalty. Cherubs are pretty useless though so not much threat. The Exterminators that come down for the purge would probably check everybody except the Ars Goetia and above. And even then they'd be a damm big threat. Good thing they're just there to wipe out Sinners.
@@BloodyCherrii So we can hypothesise this hierarchy: God/Jehovah/Yahweh/Allah and/or the Holy Trinity Archangels Seraphim and Ophanim Exorcists Cherubs
Personally i think in power level the sinners/overlords beat them but in morality the cherubs are "better" (its in the quotations as honestly they seem like the type of people who would shove in your face their niceness)
I assumed the lady and her kid were also imps but born in a different ring so they look different. I was also thinking imps from both pride and wrath would be similar colors, so hard to distinguish, so it'd make sense why she thought blitz was from wrath. We don't see many imps in pride for whatever reason so maybe it's simply a numbers game to guess a red imp is from wrath. Or maybe the stamp on blitz and fizz's head means they're from pride instead of wrath? Idk, they both have it and cash buckzo does too so maybe its just a family thing.
The thing about sinner demons is that, while they are obviously capable of being MORE POWERFUL than hellborn demons, one of the few things we know they are outright forbidden from doing is leaving the Pride ring -- the ring that just also happens to be the one closest to Heaven and gets purged every single year. This makes the greater power of the average sinner demon less like a higher caste and more like cow. And just as the average cow would easily overpower the average human if they got into a 1v1 fight but still spends its entire life at the mercy of humans, the sinner demons have more power than the hellborn, but are treated by the hellborn as nothing more than potential sources of income -- customers to bleed dry while confined to the Pride ring until they get wiped out during the next extermination. As for how the hellborn rank compared to each other, I wouldn't invest too much in that debate since the one thing that seems clear is that the native hellborn all don't seem to have very high opinions of the others. We saw this on full display in the waiting room, with Kraken Karen deriding Blitzo as a "filthy Wrathian" and "unemployed rabble", and him repeatedly firing back by implying that she's a whore. The incubus, loan sharks and baphomets (who aren't doped up) also make a habit of pathologically talking down to others. The only hellborn who don't appear to be subjected to this are the hellhounds, and that might just be because their lot in life is so low as to seemingly exist outside of the usual class warfare: The "working class" demons treat them as kin, while the "high society" demons employ them like status symbols, similar to the way cats and dogs find their way into the homes of everyone from all walks of life on Earth.
I always thought the imps themselves have a form of ranking given how big Blitzo and some other imps like his mother and sister are that are not crossbred with other demons. Since recent episodes show imps being well imp size much smaller than the likes of Moxxie and Millie. But due to the sinners and other demons of other rings they lost that sorting
Here's what I guess each species of demon is called in the Rings; Pride: Goetians and Sinners. Wrath: Imps. Gluttony: Hellhounds/Cerberi. Greed: Loan Sharks and Jesters. Lust: Succubi and Incubi. Envy: Krakens. Sloth: Candleheads.
Interesting video, the seven rings of Hell based off the seven deadly sins along with the different species is what is most creative and cool about the show.
I'm so curious how the shark people and some of the other hellborn types are officially ranked in the hierarchy. I kind of figured the sharks might be ranked above the imps but never considered they could also be above the succubi. Is there even an official name for the shark demon species or is it just fan speculation/headcanons
I think anyone could be an overlord (including imps and maybe hellhounds); it's about power or control in their community. It hasn't been stated that overlords can only rule in the pride ring; just that sinners can only exist in the pride ring. Moxxies father being an overlord is a possibility. And i think why theirs so many sinner overlords is because of the increase in sinning on earth or Alastair killed most (if not all) the hellborn overlords(they can be killed without angelic weapons) of that generation. Its possible the sinners rose up to the higher class because of those reasons and the hellborns were originally a higher class above the sinners.
Not just medicine. My headcanon is that there exists a sector of Sloth that has production plants of all of Hell's technological devices like the smartphones that can communicate between Hell and the mortal realm, Hell's Internet, and the infrastructure to allow such tech to work. All that made possible by the Overlords in Pride pitching their ideas to Belphegor or Baphomet. Another sector could be dedicated to Hell's postal service with mail sorting and distribution.
So, Lilith is confirmed to be a human once, and we know Adam, became a Angel based of pre released content, what if Lilith is Eve, and instead of taking the fruit or the garden, she became a sinner and lucifers husband
Love the video dude keep up the amazing work. I would probably be a Hellhound similar to the Greek myth Cerberus or maybe the Norse myth Fenrir/Garm. But if I was a fallen Angel I would probably be as powerful as lucifer maybe more, but I would be slightly weaker than god.🔥🔥
people are so busy complaining and pointing out all of it's flaws that they don't notice all the little world building they sprinkle into the episodes, that fish demon was just more verbal about it then everything else
Hey cartoon universe I wanna talk to you about a theory I might have come up with and that's the original stolas died possibly during Lucifers rebellion or during a possible extermination along with a few other original goetia which possibly explains why Paimon already had a grimoire which possibly belonged to the original stolas that had passed and how the current Stolas and a few other Goetia are replacements for the dead Goetia.
I would think the envy ring would be more below the wrath ring where Imp reside cause in episode 3 season 1, blitz says that the "nearest ocean is 3 rings down".
It's cool there are so many demon species! Imps, Hellborns, Overlords, Hellhounds, Sinners, Shark Demons, Ars Goetia, Royal Demons, Succubus, Seven Deadly Sins, and so much more!😮😈
Well obviously luci is a angel he maybe fallen but hes still holy, everything else can be killed by the weapons most likely. What i want to know is are the 7 princes actully the 7 deadly sins -lucifer who is pride.
This was an amazing video, But don't ever think for a second that Charlie would kill Lucifer or that Lucifer would put her in a position to do that lol I do think Lucifer might die one day and Charlie will have to become queen of hell but I don't think it's going to happen like that. I feel like ready for this had heavy foreshadowing on that. But Charlie would never kill Lucifer and Lucifer would never turn evil
some biblical sources suggest that the capital of hell is located in the fifth circle, gueena is the name of the circle with diis being the capital on the banks of the river styx.
Anyone else use Chernbog’s turning souls into imps and Succubas to understand the demon class of Hell and the demon royals are just angels using scripture or am I the only one?
Sometimes I️ have to remind myself that some videos came out before we knew that Ozzie is in fact not a fan of exploiting ppl for sex. But that might just be my personal Bias and a Fizzarozzie enjoyer
Envy, being all ocean, would mean they al, live under water, meaning they would live like fish, always in water and not in air, so the other rings’ environments wouldnt be suitable for them
Okay, we already know some overlords of the pride ring, and we know little by little the other rings. But are there overlords from other rings that we don't know yet or are there *only* overlords in the pride ring??🤔🤔 I had this doubt for a while.
Overlords are sinner demons that are more powerful than regular sinners and have a lot of influence on technologies throughout Hell. How did Hell get the Internet? How did Hell's smartphones get the magical capability to communicate between Hell and the living world? How did Hell get its own version of the RIAA?
I have a theory about Hell itself since in a few various clips we see that Earth and perhaps Heaven are two separate planets, meaning that Hell itself is a planet as well. The various rings of Hell may represent hollowed out rings inside the planet, sort of like a Russian doll. The Pride ring is on the outside and therefore has the biggest surface area for the various sinners who may take up most of the population in Hell. This may also explain why the Sloth ring features geological formations in its skies, large floating rocks, as the sloth ring is in the middle of this planet, and is affected by it's gravity differently. My personal take after piecing together bits and pieces of the two series, but I would not be surprised if this was not the case.
The deep sea mom looks like she might be part imp somewhere in her lineage due to her horns having the female indicating lines might just be a continuity error tho?
Having studied Binsfeld and the Lesser Key well before HH and HB came about, I cringe every time I hear go-eesh-ah. I know that’s how Vivziepop uses it in the shows, but it still hurts my senses :)
lowest to highest: (could be wrong, very rushed) Imps hellhounds Sucubi Lone sharks from greed Candle heads in the medical centre Native demons Sinners Deep sea Overloard
Thanks for making this video, I asked you to make it a YEAR ago. Better late then never, and I understand why you couldn't as at the time we didn't know enough about them
I don't think Crimson is a overlord in the way you suggested. The picture of him shaking hands with the godfather imp suggests that Crimson is a high ranking mafia boss but not overlord status. That would be the godfather.
No, Imps are specifically the species with the red skin and black and white striped horns, native hellborn the lot of them. Sinners might wind up with an imp-like demon form but they aren't imps.
*Nice new Helluva Boss topic video on classism of demon species, Deep Cut from **#CartoonUniverse**!* :D *I would be a hellhound because canines are my spirit animal! Also ,don't worry, Deep Cut. I will be a benevolent hellhound, ergo, I won't oppress you or any harm to you!* ;) 🐾
do you think that blitz is part succubus? i've heard this theory going around and he does have some traits that are a little different from most imps we see.
I think I'd rather just be a normal sinner. Staying in one area is just fine by me and I like to cause a little problems. My own persona loves to cause problems for overlords by working for them then scamming them out of money for fun😅
Loooking at Hazbin Hotel now I kinda wonder about this structure because you see nothing about it in that show at all. Its basically all about sinners in hell and you dont even hear of one hellborne demon. generally Hazbin explains really not much. its focus is much more on individuals than on the world they live in.
One thing, i dont think human born/sinner demons are immortal, as the pride ring goes through an "extermination" every year as shown in Hazbin, otherwise pride would become terribly overpopulated, given how many sinful humans die each year. What happens to those souls when they die in hell is anyones guess, but considering its something Charlie doesn't like happening to her people, im guessing its more likely eternal nothingness as opposed to reincarnation (Alastor does say thier human life WAS their chance, suggesting they dont get another life/reincarnation as either human or demon is off the table, even though it WOULD be interesting if thats where imps came from) EDIT: If Blitz is tall because he's part demon (weve seen his mom and dad are imps so would have to be on his grandparents side), what kinda demon do you think he's mixed with? (Although personally, I think he's just a very tall imp, which is why so many people are attracted to him. For a lack of a better comparison, it's like finding a 6ft4 tall, dark and handsome east Asian man - they see him as an "oddity" as imps are usually short(er than most demons)
Here's my question why doesn't every low class demons just use the angelic weapons all together to kill the upper class demons already?! What will happen if lucifer dies and who or what will rule the pride ring if that happens? I'm genuinely curious about this.
which demon species are you?
please do not oppress Impcut.
imp
Hellhound or maybe a Fallen-Angel.🐺😈🔥🔥
@Oliver Reynolds *I chose hellhound, too!* :D
Imps ❤️😈
Succubus probably
I think the hierarchy list makes sense as well as I know I felt bad for Blitzo being insulted by that Kraken mom and her kid, but that’s sadly most likely a daily occurrence.😢
Also, given that Sinners are immortal but have a poor quality of life overall, it makes a lot of sense too that they’d treat the native demons horribly since kicking someone they see as lower down would likely boost their own sense of superiority.😞
I’m also willing to bet the lack of migration to the Envy ring means they have the fewest crossbreed species, making them feel more “Purebred.”🤔
wait, is it actually called Kraken? Hillareous regardless
@@icarue993 That’s the term I’ve seen flying around and it just fits so well.😉😂
I believe "Karen" would be a more fitting term for the mom!!!!
@@anaemiliaalmeida7238 That’s why people are using the term “Kraken” because she’s a sea demon and a Karen.😉😂 I don’t know who started using it but I find it hilarious.😆
Karen the Kraken
Let me just organize the demon species of what hell is-
Pride❤: Sinners/Overlords.
Wrath🧡: Imps.
Gluttony💛: Hellhounds.
Greed💚: Shark-like demons/demonesses.
Lust💙: Incubi /Succubi.
Envy💜: Sea-snake demons/demonesses.
Sloth💝: Goat-like demons/demonesses.
Dont forgot the Goetia in Pride.
I'd honestly love to be a succubus or sinner demon. You'd be immortal as a sinner demon, and if you got to overlord status power. But as a succubus you'd get to travel to other rings, to the surface WITH human disguises, AND your boss would be Asmodeus. Win win.
Asmodeus is hot
So I agree
@@bluedragon2049 GOD he's so sexy
Don't blame you. That'd be sweet.
You do realize most demons are exploited and live in a cycle of "suffer and make sufferings", right? This is not a good life.
Being in hell, even as a native, is shown constantly to be awful for the inhabitants in the show. It's like constant bullshit they need to deal with and never ending work.
I made this head cannon idea of how much water for each ring of hell has:
#7 - Wrath ring 4.1%. Since most of Wrath is showed to be very dry it makes sense it’s has the least amount of water, and having very high droughts.
#6 - Pride ring 10.89%. Despite having the second least amount of water, Pride might have rivers and small oceans but aren’t as big as the lower rings.
#5 - Gluttony ring 18%. Due to its tropical theme shown in the currently unreleased episode 8 it’s possible that Gluttony would have beaches, and would have some oceans.
#4 - Lust ring 34.69%. Lust is where we are seeing more water in hell, due to it’s almost endless rain possibly water leaking from Greed.
#3 - Sloth ring 50%. When we first saw Sloth we also got what seemed to be endless water falls from Envy possibly and what both the floor of sloth and hell it’s self would be an ocean beyond the horizon.
#2 - Greed ring 71%. Greed was told to have the nearest ocean, and just like earth it would have the same amount of way hold the ring, it’s also one of the two’s other being Envy ring we get to see some types of sea creatures with the latter having more variety.
#1 - Envy ring 97.46. Out of all the rings of hell Envy has the largest amount of water, with very few islands and continents. And home to many sea demons, it makes sense why Envy has the largest ocean.
Do you happen to like this head cannon?
This could actually make sense, since the envy demons we've seen in Western Energy act like they came from a "really exclusive community". So the envy ring might be as you say, mostly water, making the inhabitants of that place like in a sort of "gated community", away from the rest of the other demons since most of them are land walkers (such as imps, hellhounds and succubus.)
I do
I think that Imps started in Greed, some in Wrath, those are the ones like Moxxie’s mum and Striker, with orange skin, and years of inbreeding for the first colonists made them shorter and shorter, yet some moved back to Greed.
Then some Greed imps migrated to Lust, obtaining wings from Succubus. Then some migrating to Pride, gaining shorter horns.
shorter horns? Blitz's and cash buckzo's horns are larger that the others we have seen
Or they all started in Wrath and the other Imps we see (like Striker or Moxxies Mum) are just decendants of some of the first Imps who left.
Shark and Bird demon's are my favorite
Same, they tend to have cool designs
I like the jackalopes from the sloth ring
Birbs and sharks da best ones oh and sucubs *weed smoking sounds*
Personally the candle headed sloth demons ( preferably the goat) and hellhounds are my favorite hell species in Helluva boss
This video has sparked an interest of mine:
Where there are social, economic and political classes, there have existed people, groups and movements trying to abolish these classes.
It would be interesting to see a character or even a whole faction within Hell that wants to abolish it’s classist system, possibly through an uprising or even a full-on revolution by lower class demons and others sympathetic to their cause.
It would be even more interesting to see the reactions of characters like Charlie, IMP, Stolas and others, as well as their stances on the matter and who they side with.
It would be interesting scenario
unlikely but not impossible
@@dominocze8658 Didn't Striker have such an abolitionist view?
@@JamesDavy2009 Well, he says he hates royals… but he works for a royal and also talks to Moxxie (another one of his kind) as if he was lesser than him.
It’s clears that his Anti-Goetia speeches are merely a facade.
Lenin tries to overthrow hell and install a communist regime.
@josephotero6111 Oh god, maybe hitler is trying to talk about which species of demon is the most superior.
(IN OVERALL POWER DISREGARDING PHYSICAL STRENGTH)
Crimson is probably the strongest Imp there is in hell as he has power over the lone sharks who are a higher species than him and what we saw he is capable of doing in the Moxxie Mother flashbacks and he mafia boss. above Striker who I’d say is second as he has angelic weaponry and Blitzø Third as he can travel to the main realm but does not posses any angelic weaponry. I like how Crimson is presented as intimidating as well, sets the feeling for mafia boss.
I wouldn't call crimson strong physically since he didn't wanna face Millie by himself but financing he probably is the strongest since he has connections and money
@@NJ-tm1vn i meant strongest overall in power, and i agree with you.
@@hvxurt
But Millie took out his forces all on her own.
@@Bezaliel13 not in physical strength, i meant overall power
Eh I like to think of him as a poser crimson is a imp who lives and acts and behaves how a royal acts he doesn’t seem to genuinely respect imps or any kind give by he had just about every type of hell born on his wall teeth , horns , wings he treated them like trash so he can act like he’s something he’s not
Blitzo certainly wasn’t kidding when he said that Imps from the Wrath Ring are small. Striker’s mariachi band and the employees in that upper-class coffee shop are practically pygmy in size compared to the others.
I think Goetia reduced them with magic.
@@zeleeba8774 Or the Goetias bought them in Wrath. To them, Wrath is the most logical place to find an imp because they originated there.
I think it’s possible that Lilith might also have some roll on why Sinners are above most native born as well. I mean she is technically a sinner so her being a queen of hell /wife of Lucifer might be part of the reasons sinners are in the middle of the hierarchy. Although it’s also very possible that higher ups, maybe even herself, choose to forget that fact.
I really hope that in Helluva boss we get more info on the Ars Goetia/Seven Deadly Sins origins though. Because it sounds like Lucifer is the only Fallen Angel as opposed to having multiple fallen angels that turned into demons.
Given this setting is *Hell,* and such things are not uncommon IRL, it would not surprise me to learn that "aging out" of a Hellhound pound involves euthanasia.
You could be on to something. By that logic, Loona would've been put to sleep if not for Blitzø adopting her.
@@JamesDavy2009 Worse yet, consider *why* she's so averse to needles.
@@Canido19 Definitely a headcanon that's plausible enough to be true.
@@Canido19 OH GOD 😮
Not to mention that, if there's any threat of a population issue in the rest of Hell (aside from Pride), due to overbreeding, the pounds may employ officers trained specifically to bring in runaways, abandoned pups, or even (if the situation is bad enough) lost pups who've been separated from their parents. Any minor found unattended on the streets would be fair game to throw into what-is-essentially a system that has all the worst traits of human prison and inhumane animal shelters (potentially complete with a Death Row if my other conjecture is accurate).
In the lead up to Hazbin could you do a video on speculating Charlie’s possible relationship dynamic with Lucifer or Lucifer’s relationship to the main Hazbin cast?
Ok, can I mention a thing I noticed for any fellow Invader Zim fans? have you noticed the way imps are treated varies HEAVILY on their height? Not unlike the Irkens where the "Allmighty tallest" were their empire's leaders? I know Viv used to be a fan at least somewhat. Think Imp status could have taken a note from that? Cause where Imps like Striker and Blitzo and Fizzaroli (and potentially Verosika if Succubi are a type of Imp) are very tall they seem to have more physical powers and more status than most. Millie is kind of an exception, but Moxxie (being about medium sized also) Only has the skills and strength he does because of his specific upbringing. Most Imps are about their size and vary in strength skill and status, but there is something about particularly tall or tiny imps that tands out as we saw the particularly tiny imps are made to be butlers and even pets, so I wonder if height plays a role in their status like it does the Irken and if that's a coincidence or not.
The idea of lilith in this setting is a curious 1, since this is based on judeo-christian mythology.
Lilith in mythology was technically human, created alongside adam as his original opposite. In this setting, that would make her an earthborn sinner, except that lilith can't die in mythology, she wasn't around at the time eve and adam partook of the forbidden fruit and thus wasn't part of the punishment god bestowed upon them in removing their immortality.
So lilith, if she is the same 1 from mythology would fall into a strange category, earthborn sinner that never died originally, has the original strength and power of those created directly by god. This really makes me think she's the most dangerous thing in the series
So, I think this would be my list from lowest to highest at this point (I think Imps and hellhounds are just so slightly apart, so they are grouped together, same for the rest of the hellborns)
Imps
Hellhounds
Sucubi
Goat Demons
LoneSharks
Deep Sea Demons
Sinners
Overlords
Goetia
The Seven Deadly Sins
Charlie
Lilith
Lucifer
You forgot the goetia, who are above the overlords but below the seven deadly sins.
The goat demons are called baphomets.
@@LewisRJHope Thx, I completely forgot about them
I think Hellhounds rank slightly lower than imps due to them being percieved as dumber, too aggressive etc.
They make for excellent muscle, being stronger than imps but not much other. (And that's the role we've seen them in so far).
Imps can at least do just about any kind of job. Whether that'd be construction, killing, farming etc.
I think Mark Hamill should voice either Lucifer for the Hazbin hotel show or Mammon the ruler of the greed ring from helluva boss do you agree
That would be dope
@@ddynamite it would be so I’m hoping for it
I believe the creator once said she wanted weird al to voice Lucifer
@@NJ-tm1vn for real
I though he was voicing voc
2:30 I Love How Chaz Lip Synced Your Words So Perfectly.😭🙏🏼
All I know is the sinners that go to hell are considered higher standards then the residents of hell itself... How? They are under the Overlord's Of Hell
Because sinners are are "immortal" (they can still be killed, but it is temporary and they go through a regeneration process). Plus if a sinner is powerful enough, they can become an overlord as well
@@KennyLastname Yeah
@@KennyLastname *Yeah, just like Todd MacFarlane 's iconic supernatural vigilante AL Simmons aka Spawn!* ;D
@@KennyLastnameI don't know how I should feel about this now.
They are also stuck in the pride ring and I’m pretty sure the only victims of the culling
I think blitzo is from the greed ring due to him being born into a circus lifestyle and we see him most often in the greed ring during flashbacks of his past
Give Cash Buckzo has the largest horns we've seen on an imp, it could be true that large horns are a feature of a Greed imp.
I really hope the envy ring is explored in this season. It sounds like such a good concept with any unique new features so vastly different from the other rings, but it’s literally never been seen
you put more thought and energy than vizzie ever cared to do.
sometimes a green window is just that, a green window.
Meaning??
@@tobsonasanya4765 that there is nothing to interpret
I still wanna see that hell hound party in episode 8 (season one)
Main thing about sinners and overlords would be for me that they are stuck in pride ring. their hierarchy makes sense only there because if one, like said Karen, would never leave compounds of her compy life, staying only in three rings worth Visiting. Lulu World may be the only thing worth seeing in the Pride Ring for the Caren and she would still require to not mingle with people she would see below her and I believe that deep-sea deamons see themselves as the highest class except for royality. Objetively hierarchy makes sense but I doubt they see it this way
I'd want to be in either Sloth or Envy as a seademon/candlehead.
Candle heads espouse the work, burn out, recharge, work lifestyle like they were working at Amazon on steroids.
I love the design of Stolas specifically, and I would love to be apart of the ars goetia, but I also love the designs of imps. Like I love their little tails and horns and I also love Moxxie’s little legs specifically. They’re both my favorite species.
Now I'm curious where angels are classed as? Like where do exorcists and Cherub fit in their world? 🤔
I think it was said that the cherubs are lowered class angels in helluva boss and I’m not sure about the exorcists
Angels are by their very nature stronger.. Even the Cherubs can't technically be killed by most things in hell.
And their angelic weaponry can kill Sinners and Demon Royalty.
Cherubs are pretty useless though so not much threat.
The Exterminators that come down for the purge would probably check everybody except the Ars Goetia and above. And even then they'd be a damm big threat.
Good thing they're just there to wipe out Sinners.
@@BloodyCherrii So we can hypothesise this hierarchy:
God/Jehovah/Yahweh/Allah and/or the Holy Trinity
Archangels
Seraphim and Ophanim
Exorcists
Cherubs
Personally i think in power level the sinners/overlords beat them but in morality the cherubs are "better" (its in the quotations as honestly they seem like the type of people who would shove in your face their niceness)
I assumed the lady and her kid were also imps but born in a different ring so they look different. I was also thinking imps from both pride and wrath would be similar colors, so hard to distinguish, so it'd make sense why she thought blitz was from wrath. We don't see many imps in pride for whatever reason so maybe it's simply a numbers game to guess a red imp is from wrath. Or maybe the stamp on blitz and fizz's head means they're from pride instead of wrath? Idk, they both have it and cash buckzo does too so maybe its just a family thing.
Also loving the fact that there are different breeds of demons. Different hellhounds, imps, goatia. I wonder how many other species we gonna see
The thing about sinner demons is that, while they are obviously capable of being MORE POWERFUL than hellborn demons, one of the few things we know they are outright forbidden from doing is leaving the Pride ring -- the ring that just also happens to be the one closest to Heaven and gets purged every single year.
This makes the greater power of the average sinner demon less like a higher caste and more like cow. And just as the average cow would easily overpower the average human if they got into a 1v1 fight but still spends its entire life at the mercy of humans, the sinner demons have more power than the hellborn, but are treated by the hellborn as nothing more than potential sources of income -- customers to bleed dry while confined to the Pride ring until they get wiped out during the next extermination.
As for how the hellborn rank compared to each other, I wouldn't invest too much in that debate since the one thing that seems clear is that the native hellborn all don't seem to have very high opinions of the others. We saw this on full display in the waiting room, with Kraken Karen deriding Blitzo as a "filthy Wrathian" and "unemployed rabble", and him repeatedly firing back by implying that she's a whore. The incubus, loan sharks and baphomets (who aren't doped up) also make a habit of pathologically talking down to others.
The only hellborn who don't appear to be subjected to this are the hellhounds, and that might just be because their lot in life is so low as to seemingly exist outside of the usual class warfare: The "working class" demons treat them as kin, while the "high society" demons employ them like status symbols, similar to the way cats and dogs find their way into the homes of everyone from all walks of life on Earth.
I always thought the imps themselves have a form of ranking given how big Blitzo and some other imps like his mother and sister are that are not crossbred with other demons. Since recent episodes show imps being well imp size much smaller than the likes of Moxxie and Millie. But due to the sinners and other demons of other rings they lost that sorting
Here's what I guess each species of demon is called in the Rings;
Pride: Goetians and Sinners.
Wrath: Imps.
Gluttony: Hellhounds/Cerberi.
Greed: Loan Sharks and Jesters.
Lust: Succubi and Incubi.
Envy: Krakens.
Sloth: Candleheads.
I love getting to watch your videos. It would be pretty amazing to have an official compilation of this information so I could ttrpg in this world
Interesting video, the seven rings of Hell based off the seven deadly sins along with the different species is what is most creative and cool about the show.
I still want to know if sinners CAN move ring but it’s just illegal or if they physically can’t by angelic power or soemtjing
I think they can, but it's illegal, Striker used the old mine to move to the Wrath Ring, not the elevator, because he is wanted.
@@zeleeba8774 striker isn’t a sinner. But I see your point. They might travel by illegal means
@@benjaminlehman3221 I said that he is being persecuted, so he can't be seen in the state elevator.
@@benjaminlehman3221 Another way they could go between rings is by portal travel via Stolas' grimoire if they sweet talk IMP into doing so.
I'm so curious how the shark people and some of the other hellborn types are officially ranked in the hierarchy. I kind of figured the sharks might be ranked above the imps but never considered they could also be above the succubi. Is there even an official name for the shark demon species or is it just fan speculation/headcanons
They were referred here as loan sharks and like with Scott Cawthon and Golden Freddy, Vivziepop can take fan names and make them official.
They’re listed as hellborn
I think anyone could be an overlord (including imps and maybe hellhounds); it's about power or control in their community. It hasn't been stated that overlords can only rule in the pride ring; just that sinners can only exist in the pride ring. Moxxies father being an overlord is a possibility. And i think why theirs so many sinner overlords is because of the increase in sinning on earth or Alastair killed most (if not all) the hellborn overlords(they can be killed without angelic weapons) of that generation. Its possible the sinners rose up to the higher class because of those reasons and the hellborns were originally a higher class above the sinners.
I wonder why Sloth isn't the backbone of their economy, considering they command the medical industry.
Not just medicine. My headcanon is that there exists a sector of Sloth that has production plants of all of Hell's technological devices like the smartphones that can communicate between Hell and the mortal realm, Hell's Internet, and the infrastructure to allow such tech to work. All that made possible by the Overlords in Pride pitching their ideas to Belphegor or Baphomet. Another sector could be dedicated to Hell's postal service with mail sorting and distribution.
It’s Interesting to see all the Different Rings,
It was cool to see the Sloth ring in the newest
Episode, and the Demons that are from there~
So, Lilith is confirmed to be a human once, and we know Adam, became a Angel based of pre released content, what if Lilith is Eve, and instead of taking the fruit or the garden, she became a sinner and lucifers husband
Love the video dude keep up the amazing work.
I would probably be a Hellhound similar to the Greek myth Cerberus or maybe the Norse myth Fenrir/Garm. But if I was a fallen Angel I would probably be as powerful as lucifer maybe more, but I would be slightly weaker than god.🔥🔥
people are so busy complaining and pointing out all of it's flaws that they don't notice all the little world building they sprinkle into the episodes, that fish demon was just more verbal about it then everything else
So what about the rankings of hybrids? What if a Sinner and an Imp got together and had a child? Or better yet, has there ever been a human hybrid?
Could sinners have kids?
Sinners are sterile.
Hey cartoon universe I wanna talk to you about a theory I might have come up with and that's the original stolas died possibly during Lucifers rebellion or during a possible extermination along with a few other original goetia which possibly explains why Paimon already had a grimoire which possibly belonged to the original stolas that had passed and how the current Stolas and a few other Goetia are replacements for the dead Goetia.
Or they could be similar to phoenixes only instead of being reborn from the ashes their lineage is cyclical.
I would think the envy ring would be more below the wrath ring where Imp reside cause in episode 3 season 1, blitz says that the "nearest ocean is 3 rings down".
One think i would like to see more is the caste system, now its just seems bare bones .
The way I see the 7 rings being arranged is like planets and heaven is the star they orbit
No, these are all rings on the same planet, they are superimposed on each other.
@@zeleeba8774 Hell is like an onion.
The long haired demon from envy is my favorite or the boned siner from hazbin hotel in Charlie's interview
It's cool there are so many demon species! Imps, Hellborns, Overlords, Hellhounds, Sinners, Shark Demons, Ars Goetia, Royal Demons, Succubus, Seven Deadly Sins, and so much more!😮😈
I hope we see the Envy Ring, since it’s the last ring we haven’t seen yet.
You forgot Gluttony!!!
I remember blitz saying "the nearest ocean being 3 rings down" so maybe the deep sea ring is lower but still have more power?
Well obviously luci is a angel he maybe fallen but hes still holy, everything else can be killed by the weapons most likely.
What i want to know is are the 7 princes actully the 7 deadly sins -lucifer who is pride.
What about those Clown Demons (I call them "Skelejesters") seen in the background at Ozzie's (Calliope and Larson)?
I think they might actually be shark demons. A lot of the sharks have exposed bone, perhaps they rot away until only the dry bones remain.
Damn this is the earliest I've ever been to a vid
This was an amazing video, But don't ever think for a second that Charlie would kill Lucifer or that Lucifer would put her in a position to do that lol I do think Lucifer might die one day and Charlie will have to become queen of hell but I don't think it's going to happen like that. I feel like ready for this had heavy foreshadowing on that. But Charlie would never kill Lucifer and Lucifer would never turn evil
I think Blitz grow up in greed.Because on the fire accident is the fire 🔥 green🟢
is it just me or is the song playing in the background “peace and war on the plant earth” from steven universe but bass boosted😀😀
some biblical sources suggest that the capital of hell is located in the fifth circle, gueena is the name of the circle with diis being the capital on the banks of the river styx.
I want more info about the Candle-heads
Me too.
Hear me out the best to be is a sinner because you get to live forever
Anyone else use Chernbog’s turning souls into imps and Succubas to understand the demon class of Hell and the demon royals are just angels using scripture or am I the only one?
Love your vids
Sometimes I️ have to remind myself that some videos came out before we knew that Ozzie is in fact not a fan of exploiting ppl for sex. But that might just be my personal Bias and a Fizzarozzie enjoyer
love your videos
Envy, being all ocean, would mean they al, live under water, meaning they would live like fish, always in water and not in air, so the other rings’ environments wouldnt be suitable for them
Okay, we already know some overlords of the pride ring, and we know little by little the other rings.
But are there overlords from other rings that we don't know yet or are there *only* overlords in the pride ring??🤔🤔
I had this doubt for a while.
Overlords are sinner demons that are more powerful than regular sinners and have a lot of influence on technologies throughout Hell. How did Hell get the Internet? How did Hell's smartphones get the magical capability to communicate between Hell and the living world? How did Hell get its own version of the RIAA?
Leviathan is the president of the envy ring HOA and his entire ring is a gated community.
By that logic, the Envy Ring is somewhat like _1984_ with Leviathan being Big Brother.
I like how they made the rings of hell kind of be like states
I have a theory about Hell itself since in a few various clips we see that Earth and perhaps Heaven are two separate planets, meaning that Hell itself is a planet as well. The various rings of Hell may represent hollowed out rings inside the planet, sort of like a Russian doll. The Pride ring is on the outside and therefore has the biggest surface area for the various sinners who may take up most of the population in Hell. This may also explain why the Sloth ring features geological formations in its skies, large floating rocks, as the sloth ring is in the middle of this planet, and is affected by it's gravity differently. My personal take after piecing together bits and pieces of the two series, but I would not be surprised if this was not the case.
The deep sea mom looks like she might be part imp somewhere in her lineage due to her horns having the female indicating lines might just be a continuity error tho?
Crimson: the weakest of the sins
( the sloth is under envy lust )
Me: BRUH-
Having studied Binsfeld and the Lesser Key well before HH and HB came about, I cringe every time I hear go-eesh-ah. I know that’s how Vivziepop uses it in the shows, but it still hurts my senses :)
lowest to highest: (could be wrong, very rushed)
Imps hellhounds
Sucubi
Lone sharks from greed
Candle heads in the medical centre
Native demons
Sinners
Deep sea
Overloard
I just noticed that if there was a lvl for blasfulmy( or how ever you type it) they could most likely be over powered 😅😅
This is so helpful!! Thank you!!
Thanks for making this video, I asked you to make it a YEAR ago. Better late then never, and I understand why you couldn't as at the time we didn't know enough about them
My fingers smell like Parmesan cheese even though I haven’t even seen Parmesan chess in days, and I just ate some strawberries.
Hiii love your videos
Many imps of the greed ring also have digitigrade legs
I don't think Crimson is a overlord in the way you suggested. The picture of him shaking hands with the godfather imp suggests that Crimson is a high ranking mafia boss but not overlord status. That would be the godfather.
But aren't imps also humans once they come to hell? like the woman in the first episode?
So there are hellborn imps and sinner humans-imps?
No, Imps are specifically the species with the red skin and black and white striped horns, native hellborn the lot of them. Sinners might wind up with an imp-like demon form but they aren't imps.
I learn more about economics in peoples HB fan content than in real life.
I'd like to point out that the I.M.P office is in the pride ring, just realized.
*Nice new Helluva Boss topic video on classism of demon species, Deep Cut from **#CartoonUniverse**!* :D *I would be a hellhound because canines are my spirit animal! Also ,don't worry, Deep Cut. I will be a benevolent hellhound, ergo, I won't oppress you or any harm to you!* ;) 🐾
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@@_makeitreal_ *Nope!* 😉
@@booksmartthealicorn3219 I don’t believe that for some reason
do you think that blitz is part succubus? i've heard this theory going around and he does have some traits that are a little different from most imps we see.
Oh Dad NOOO Charlie would make everything bland no racism, drugs, bars, clubs and HAPPINESS NO I BEGETH YOU
I think I'd rather just be a normal sinner. Staying in one area is just fine by me and I like to cause a little problems. My own persona loves to cause problems for overlords by working for them then scamming them out of money for fun😅
6:09 Is that two headed one related to Leviathan's happy sad heart app?
I feel like all overlords are just more overpower than the royalties above
Loooking at Hazbin Hotel now I kinda wonder about this structure because you see nothing about it in that show at all. Its basically all about sinners in hell and you dont even hear of one hellborne demon. generally Hazbin explains really not much. its focus is much more on individuals than on the world they live in.
Yay another videos
Off topic but my headcanon is that Leviathan goes by Levi
The theory that imps as a species or race are the (second) lowest class… that‘s certainly possible, but not necessarily true.
Great theories
Isn't a theory it's from the show
One thing, i dont think human born/sinner demons are immortal, as the pride ring goes through an "extermination" every year as shown in Hazbin, otherwise pride would become terribly overpopulated, given how many sinful humans die each year. What happens to those souls when they die in hell is anyones guess, but considering its something Charlie doesn't like happening to her people, im guessing its more likely eternal nothingness as opposed to reincarnation (Alastor does say thier human life WAS their chance, suggesting they dont get another life/reincarnation as either human or demon is off the table, even though it WOULD be interesting if thats where imps came from)
EDIT: If Blitz is tall because he's part demon (weve seen his mom and dad are imps so would have to be on his grandparents side), what kinda demon do you think he's mixed with? (Although personally, I think he's just a very tall imp, which is why so many people are attracted to him. For a lack of a better comparison, it's like finding a 6ft4 tall, dark and handsome east Asian man - they see him as an "oddity" as imps are usually short(er than most demons)
I love the idea of Karen squids
My OC be a Hellhound dating an imp
yeah i guess its accurate to my opinion
Here's my question why doesn't every low class demons just use the angelic weapons all together to kill the upper class demons already?! What will happen if lucifer dies and who or what will rule the pride ring if that happens? I'm genuinely curious about this.